Simon Jordan Insists Man City's Record Revenue Would Be SMASHED By Man Utd If They Win The Treble 💰🔥
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2023
- Manchester City post revenue that blows Manchester United's record away after treble success. talkSPORT's Jim White and Simon Jordan have their say!
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Very balanced argument. Simon is right by saying even if Man City were found guilty of breaking some rules they would get fined and whatever, but that wouldn't stop their success still, people use the 115 charges thing to excuse their own clubs' incompetence. He's also right by saying if Utd win the treble in today's market they would make more money, i don't think Man City fans care about that though, they never argued ever being bigger than Utd, they just want to be better, and they have been better than Utd for more than 10 years now.
The most coherent comment I've seen about city on RUclips and you're bang on. Well done Sir
It's really not a good argument. If City did cheat (which most agree they did), then where would they be right now if they didn't cheat? If their fate hadn't have been different without the cheating, then why did they cheat anyway? What did you gain from it if it didn't make a difference?
@@nichobee please advise what cheating occurred ?
@@nichobeeif they’re not charged then it should be an example for every other club. Find every loophole you can, and collect your fines with your winners medals. That’s the future of football :)
@@nichobeecold hard facts 😂 that club is rife with sportswashing
The only difference is that if United would have earned a billion pounds if they had won the treble last year, the Glazers would have taken it out of the club. City owners would have re-invested not just in the club but in that part of Manchester
The problems at Manchester United aren’t due to a lack of spending
@@Maximustard yep, it's because there roof is leaking
@@Maximustard it cuz of debt drowning, negligence of the club and fans, lack of development poor running etc. The only thing that's holding us back is glazers. You know they're THAT bad when rival fans beg them to stay...cuz they know what will happen when we get new ownership
@@mysticalA257 How much has Manchester United spent on transfer in the past 5 years?
@@Maximustard That doesn't change the fact we are 1 billion in debt since glazers stepped in. Even then this is only recently. This just goes because the owners are so poor in requirements.
United and Liverpool built their success when there were no FFP they were the biggest spenders spending what ever they liked. FFP was brought in to protect the Cartel clubs
yeah we made are money, wasnt a fking sugar daddy buying clubs and spending 100's of millions.
United and Liverpool built their success organically and fairly.
Agree with the above replies but also their ratio of spending compared to other clubs was a lot lower than that of Chelsea and then City. Its the % difference that matters, not the amount.
Lol I've had these arguments with City fans before regarding Liverpool when they dominated..
Actually their spending compared to other teams was nothing like the dominace man City have today ..
Many of the players Liverpool brought in were covered by outgoing sales and in many cases were young prospects coming up and cost next to nothing ..
If you don't believe me go back and check yourself ..
Nottingham forest brought the first 1 million pound player then not Liverpool
That's just not true United were outspent in the 90s by Newcastle, Blackburn, Arsenal etc . The decade that their dominance began
So basically Man City became successful and built an incredible team and a well run club, but they potentially did by not adhering to arbitrary rules implemented to stop smaller clubs from ever becoming successful? Got it.
Or artificially created their revenue - but, surely, the United Arab Emirates would NEVER do anything unethical.
@@dalegrant9282not that they can’t but that you have no idea that it’s actually been done yet. But if you believe that they already have done it then even being proven innocent won’t change your mind
some said paying mancini 1m quid made city win the treble looooooooooool
@@karmaascendant3936I think we all know some creative accounting and inflated sponsorship deals are happening here. They rarely fill their stadium, so it seems unlikely they would have the fan base to justify some of the deals they have been getting from sponsors. They also hide payments to players and coaches. Mancini said as much
@@karmaascendant3936I mean it is true, whether legally or illegally, just for look at there first big stadium deal, massively inflated, compared with arsenals stadium deal who were much much bigger
Would be's & could be's.. oh Simon 🤦♂️
Yes Simon, if it were 25 years ago things would be different. It is 2023 and Man City is doing exactly what every big team does, spend money and build an elite squad. The past is the past, Man U haven't been the team you described in way too long for you to use it as a reference point.
man city have a portfolio of fake sponsors form abu dhabi that pump money into their club.
Man Utd are still bigger even with city being more succesful recently. Speaks volumes 😊
oh btw its only been 10 years United won the league. So not "way too long" like 30 years Liverpool or 20 years Arsenal 😊
@@hotmess2766a decade is a very long time. Do you get 3 points for being a big club? All being a big club actually means is that you have the most glory hunter fans who chose the wrong club, about 10 years ago... 😊
@@JamesHussain82 Wrong! United fans are not new fans like yesterday's Chelsea fans who came after Russian Billionaires 😊
This is actually embarrassing now. Every video of Simon he has to tell everyone how big Man U are.
...but the fan base themselves keep on saying how big the club is, not sure what it's based on, but that narrative keep on coming from their mouths...
it's called spitting facts... deal with it
Man Utd is like Real Madrid and Barcelona…. You could go to every country on earth and find fans or someone with their kit on.
@@rLxJakeNo they aren't 😂😂😂 United can't lace those 2 spanish clubs B team boots 😂
He’s right though. United pretty close to city despite winning only the league cup and without any champions league. Shows us how big United actually are.
If man city had 1 billion pound profit in 2023 Simon will still found something wrong with that
Rightly so
Would you prefer we just applaud city for using oil to win football matches...
@@ashwilliams4959 how much of that money comes from the companies that is owned by their owner ?
If Man City had a billion pound profit 75% of it would be the Sheik's oil money, funneled in via dodgy financial chicanery.
@@ashwilliams4959 yes, they throw it all over their opponents
Poor old Simon, can't accept United aren't top and it's not the 90s.
@@Yewchewb Bayern Munich made similar revenue to Man City and Barcelona.
@@YewchewbThen why are you so worked up??? As if you are triggered that City is being compared to United and it kills you that they might be better than United treble
@@Yewchewb don't give a 🤬 about City mate, just tired of Simon always pushing Man U agenda.
Read the room...he's taking a dig at utd...sarcarm at it's best
didnt watch it to be fair, he just always goes on about United being the biggest and George Best 😴@@fearlessformidableferociou8623
There is nothing fair about FFP, either put rules in place that mean no club within a league has a financial advantage or allow club owners to spend whatever they want to spend, but stop them from putting that debt on the club.
Then you get clubs just being a rich man's plaything buying success.
@@alfredthegreat9543 But City's owners aren't Portsmouth or a Malaga etc as proven? they are serious business investors as the turnover suggests
correct ffp should have been brought out in the 80s and stopped the moores family
Facts
FFP translates to the rich get richer and no one else is allowed
@@alfredthegreat9543 That's what we have now at least my way it isn't the club that suffers when the rich man tires of his toy.
"With all due respect", Simon, and "with all the will in the world", there's more chance of Stevie Wonder being able to point at the moon, during daylight hours, than United winning another treble.
...but the utd treble is...a) beat City once, b) do the double over Pool, and c) reach top 4
That was damn funny
@@fearlessformidableferociou8623 b) keeping Pool to a more respectable 6-0 drubbing
@@garywallace5602 🤣👍🏼
Football is cyclical. There will be a decade where another team will be dominant
Simon is obsessed with Man United. shades everything City does and wants it to be done by United 😂😂😂😂
Manchester united Re the biggest club in the world, no?.
@@philipquist771 haha
@@philipquist771🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Not even in top 5
@@philipquist771biggest club yes along with Real Madrid, biggest team? No, along with tranmere rovers.
@@philipquist771 Shows how much you know. How old are you?
It's great listening to a financial expert like Simon Jordan who almost bankrupted himself at Crystal Palace and had to relinquish control of the club and is consequently widely regarded as a failed football club owner.
City wage bill include salaries and bonuses to staff also like cleaners cook etc. These talksport people are disingenuous
He keeps on about Utd almost asif he wants to take charge there..
If Utd won the treble...If my aunty had bolloxs. Simon still living in the 90s
He didn't say it would happen it's an IF to make a financial point obvoously
You would think city’s board have come out and said city are a bigger global brand than everyone. Simon gets his knickers in a twist over city. He’s a Poundland businessman in comparison to the City owners and that hurts him. Even with all the money City have Simon would find a way to bankrupt them. City are and have been moving in the right direction for a long time so on and off the pitch they’re doing things right otherwise they would look like the garbage across the road after spending over a billion.
where would you be without the money, go on tell us.
The problem the football world has got now is we have another bunch on the way in the shape of Newcastle. God help our ears.
City owners aren't businessmen though. City is state-owned and Sheikh Mansour is part of the Abu Dabi royal family! He's also constantly embroiled in scandals and allegations, involving human trafficking, slavery and other disgusting crimes but when you have that kind of money you're above the law. You support a sportwashing club.
@@LordHighnessof course they're businessmen. They own football clubs, airlines, PIL business, etc.. these are all businesses they run.
“Moving in the right direction”. Yes, by cheating!!
@@DB-07Zzzzzzzzzzz....rinse repeat...
Well played Jim you're correct. Almost nothing that Simon said actually matters. City are the Premier Leagues big dogs and if they get cleared of charges then good luck to the other 19 teams in the league 😅😅
and we gonna clear everything. He is yet to cry.
Till pep leaves 😊
Everyone knows they are guilty
@@chrisahmed8660💯
We can hate city all we want but if they keep doing well they will reach the heights of the others. Every year that passes they keep growing their reach especially with young people
so young people dont follow other clubs??
True but this is the argument about them not being a big club. They are building the history and the following that United, Liverpool and others have already built.
@@hellalive8973they are building it off of corruption and lies
@@sparkyred42 does my comment say that all the young people are supporting city?
Yes and no. The majority of younger fans support the team their parent (s) support. That will largely be Liverpool or Manchester United, with Arsenal and Spurs someway below. City could win the treble for the next ten years and they would not come close to United’s fan numbers. Remember that in 1974-75 United we’re in division two and still easily had the highest average crowd in England. It’s not all about trophies. It’s about legacy, romance, tragedy and generations of support from families.
So Simon’s argument is citys revenue which IS the highest ever in the epl is nothing to write home about, Because IF another team like united had a great business and coaching structure and IF they had a team good enough to win the treble, they COULD generate additional commercial and prize money revenue that COULD fill the gap of 80m to citys t/o and then POSSIBLY add a further 280m to get them to a billion. That’s a doubling of uniteds commercial revenue over night for winning the ucl. Utter NONSENSE!
It's true what Simon says.
United, despite not having won anything special in the past 10 years, still has a turnover of 780mil. Back in 2018, it was 795mil.
City wins the Treble and earns 814mil. it doesn't take very long to work out that United is much bigger financially
It actually tells how big a club United is considering that Real M, Barcelona, Bayern and City have won the most and yet United are in the top 3 every single year.
You can find the figures at F.or.bes
If United had won the same amount of trophies as Real M or City in that period it would definitely had surpassed the 1billion
His point is much simpler mate - is City will never be as big as Man Utd. They can't even claim that in Manchester. They don't have legacy and you can buy your way to success but they have literally decades to go before they can be spoken on in the same breath as Utd, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Juventus, Barca, AC and on and on
Well, it's not nonsense chap......it's fact. City will never be what the proper big clubs around the world are, full stop.
That’s not what he said the history and success of United and the weight the name carries means that if they won the treble right now they would probably get more revenue than a team who’s only been known worldwide for 12 years at most. City still have a long way to go before they are anything close to the United brand which is probably recognised in almost every country in the world. I’m not a United fan btw.
@@verum-in-omnibus1035 City were winning trophies before United , Liverpool and Arsenal and of course won a European trophy before Liverpool.
but a large portion of their revenue … theyre sponsering themselves with Oil Money
City have had virtually no advantage in relation to the 115 charges. The amounts of money in total are small beer in relation to their spending during the period covered by the charges. Simon is quite wrong. City have not built up their current squad on the back of concealing revenue. They are not in the same boat as Chelsea but only if those charges against Chelsea are proved. City would still have got where they are today, the money relating to the charges or not. United have been fined for FFP.
United are miles off the treble!!
Yeah keep living off your brand in the dinosaur era..You aren't even in top 5 biggest clubs of all time 😂
Utd's treble...1) beat City once, 2) do the double over Liverpool, 3) reach top 4
city financially engineered thier success, utd treble was majority of youth form the class of 92
Come on Simon - if...... Utd are failing and you grabbing onto anything again to bang down on City...
And the FFP - as Simon says - the majority are duplicated and "trumped up"
You can't just brush off 115 FFP violations like that, sorry.
Simon living in dream land, if buts and maybes he needs to accept reality
Nobody in living in dream land, Man Utd could win ucl this season and make more revenue than Man City did with their treble.
@@aryan.4855man united could disband never to be seen again. Like he said would could should. Deal with reality.
@@aryan.4855BS!!! 😂😂 Nobody cares about United anymore bruh
United is only big in England not outside of it 😂
@eL--RaL that's demonstrably false. Keep crying
Truth is bitter
Imagine if FFP existed in business. Motorola and Nokia blocking the development of Apple, Samsung and Huawei because it's not fair.
I think city should be worried now. For what has happened to Everton there treble doesn't look good. 115 charges against them. I do think they will go down.
By Simon's logic, if Liverpool won the quadruple they'd would have smashed the record revenue as well
If City were as dominant as Man U back in the 80's and 90's and had continued success until now, their revenue would be even higher
If Arsenal had City's recent success and investment they would have smashed revenue records and likely have become a bigger club than United by now, in England at least. Not only would Arsenal have a more impressive trophy cabinet than they do currently, they're also based in London.
There are a lot of if buts and maybes which would cause a huge affect.
That's nor reality though
Man U wouldn't win the treble, not only is it incredibly difficult to do but their current team is miles off where it should be
Maybe Simon would have a point if Man U were in the finals of the champions league along with City and if United were in a title race instead of Arsenal but its a really stupid thought experiment when Man U weren't anywhere close to a treble last season
The point is they weren’t successful in the past and have no history so they couldn’t attract the financial opportunities that bigger more historic clubs could. City have built it artificially and they are and will continue to be financially successful based on the success that they’ve bought. Simon’s point is that a club like United with their history, their success and their global recognition would be dwarfing everyone commercially if they were as successful as City is today.
@hellalive8973 they actually did have some success in the past but when they were successful, football wasn't as profitable as it is today so their few wins didn't springboard them into having major financing.
City weren't artificially built up.
If that's the case, you can make the same argument to Liverpool, Manchester United, Arsenal, Chelsea, etc.
They all had investments from the past and are now seeing the pay off of those investments.
Football hasn't changed.
Its the same as it ever was. You're all blind to it because it happened so long ago whereas City is recent.
If it was organic then why is it that Preston North End, Sunderland, Huddersfield and Blackburn rovers never gained the massive success of Liverpool or Manchester United.
They were winning the league back then, so why is it that they never kicked off and grew into a massive club?
Quite simple, they never got an owner with as much money as these big clubs and weren't invested into to allow them to grow into a powerhouse.
As much as people cry and moan, all the big clubs are the same.
Heavy investment -> success -> profit 📈
Now City have gotten as big as they have, it's now self sustainable just like these other clubs.
Also his point makes no sense to even try and compare City to United.
United have history, yes but City are the ones who are currently making history.
City earnt their treble, it wasn't given to them. United are currently not in the position to win one so the argument makes no sense.
@@colonelcider8292 mate come on be serious. City won one title in the 30’s and another in the 60’s. You had an FA Cup or two in the 60’s aswell. You’d never won a European Cup before last season. City have yoyo’d around the second and third diversion for most of our lives. They are totally artificially stepped up just like Chelsea. 10 years ago the UAE government sponsored you for 400mil pretending it was Etihad Airways that was paying for it. The best Arsenal, a far bigger global club could get at the time was like 90mil.
Why do you city fans have such an issue with being a manufactured club. Embrace it and enjoy the success.
Simon’s argument makes perfect sense you don’t understand it.
@@hellalive8973 well said mate. Had no idea they had that much investment from UAE
@hellalive8973 the problem I that you other clubs pretending that you weren't manufactured in the same way.
Where was United in the early days of English football?
United's dominance only came after they were a rich club.
It's so hypocritical. You've done the exact same thing so if City are artificial then so are United and Liverpool.
And the problem with Simon's statement is that it's so illogical.
United winning the treble getting more money than City?
They have to win one first.
It's so useless to make these if and but scenario's as you can give so many different factors to benefit your argument.
It's not based in reality, it's based completely in a fantasy
BTW I am enjoying the success.
But do you not think that I shouldn't be pointing out the blatant double standard.
What is it? Rule for me but not for you?
Liverpool fan here. How much of City's revenue is down to prizemoney and selling players they have stockpiled? Not to mention so called sponsorships from related parties?
What was United revenue from Carabao Cup compared to other teams that won it.
100k
How did Everton’s charges get sorted before city’s ??
Because it was one charge in a fairly open and shut case, versus 115 charges that City are denying and fighting against. Everton were charged in March and their one charge only just got sorted. City were charged one month earlier so how long do you think 115 will take?
@@chrisbickmore9618 we will see .. so they have had to looked at some cases to have charged them … Everton opening there books to the fA got them a 10 point deduction and city will not open there books ! And they will get away with there charges… there a mob mate … ruined the game in England
Last year, CITY went from 3.77 to 6.8 m, the biggest rise, tail off around 8.0 million.
@mattgee1118exactly, the heritage clubs came to prominence organically. Man Citu is completely manufactured.
All football clubs are now manufactured and all owners are dodgy...
Nobody will ever win the Premier League without spending obscene amounts of money...
These media! United isn't even in top 5 biggest clubs in football bur they make it seem United is so big 😂😂
@@Blaze-2457 🤣🤣🤣🤣Barca is in top 2 GREATEST clubs of all time second only to Madrid
No clubs can lace Barca's boots NO ONE!! 😂😂😂
Barca is BIGGER than Prem and it's not even up for a debate 🤣🤣
But that’s the point, City’s success now builds a bigger supporter base, in 20 years time if they keep being relatively successful and stay a top 4 team, they’ll be as big if not bigger than Man U, assuming Man U stays an inconsistent team
Yeah like every muslim is probably a city fans now, Islamic state teams and their fans are strong
As if Pep will manage City for another 20 years? The days of managers staying at 1 club for 20 years plus like Fergie and Wenger are gone.
To compare City to United as a club is like trying to compare Chelsea to Liverpool as a club, you just can't.
City built success from oil, other than Newcastle and chelsea, all other teams had to use football to build their success
@raymondbutler834 you missed the qualifier there, read the statement again...
Man city will never ever be a bigger club than utd..
That's not rocket science ffs..
Correct me if I’m wrong, but City’s wage bill included how much in bonuses being paid out to players for trophies won?
Isn’t it also true that all players have bonuses clauses in their contracts for for winning competitions? And I’d imagine that bonuses paid for winning the CL would be the highest bonuses paid, no? So it would naturally follow, if you’ve won the treble, you’d be paying out more bonuses (3 for winning 3 competitions) and bigger ones (CL more than PL, PL more than FA) thereby substantially increasing the wage bill for that year?
Your right you pay like 280m in player and staff bonuses.
Yeah you're right but things have changed all the contracts have been changed now so if they win a treble again all those bonus won't be paid out from now on
Even headlands goals he doesn't get the same bonus this season
It was some crazy amount in bonuses paid out to everyone.
@@CB-ms2cq Yeah and those crazy bonuses were likely based on the very probability of achieving such greatness as the Treble. Double-edged sword for City: winning the Treble is massive (only 8 teams in 130 years of European footballing history have done it) but...now they have to pay out insanely massive bonuses lol. And to your point, I'd imagine that the contracts have clauses in them stating a diminished bonus life structure once certain watermarks have been hit i.e. get 10m bonus if you win the CL but any subsequent CL wins would be 5m etc
@@aryan.4855 Actually, according to different sources MU for 2023/24 total salaries of players (not bonuses etc) ranged from 206m to 209.5m while City's range was 200m to 209m. So theyre about in line with one another for what it means. Again, this is just player salary totals and not bonuses, staff etc so given those numbers, total wages should def be higher
United has a higher tunrover than city despite being 600 million in debt, no Champions league in 15 years , no prem in 10 years, high wage bill. Also with the ownership, the share price has fluctuated.
If you genuinely think Simon is wrong in this video, then you are some bit naive
The fact is Utd will not win no damm treble anytime soon, so we cant tell if he is right or wrong
City will be deducted 15pts next season, it will be announced as they narrowly miss the title to Liverpool by a point. The oracle of the gods have spoken.
city made 10 million in profit more than united and we came 3rd and won the carabao cup ,we all know who is the bigger club ,as simon says if united did a treble they would probably rake in a billion and thats without cooking the books like city do every season
The wage bill posted is for *E V E R Y O N E* at the club, including Administration and the Tea Lady.
Small Caveat SImon - The biggest wage bill because the salaries are HEAVILY performance related.
Simon is so incredibly good at making bitter arguments. Dude keeps comparing United to City. United did the treble 24 years ago. City is bigger. I used to be rich means you are poor. I used to be great means you aren’t great. Just crown City already, like Jim said, whatever United did is irrelevant now😂😂😂😂
Put down the pipe kiddo😅😅
Like City were Totally Irrelevant then, get back in your box small club.
Plastic fan
@@sparkyred42 Small club who’s been voted the best in the world two years running. Mind the massive gap.
@@sparkyred42 I bet you are a rags fan from the Home Counties who doesn’t even know where Manchester is? Mind the massive gap.
Simon Jordan doesn't like the way that Man City operate financially. The same Simon Jordan that was touting around the Wahabbis for a job during the Qatar World Cup. Be honest, Simon. The only scruples you have depend on the size of bag.
Simon is actually spot on when he says “yes they probably have broken some financial rules but who hasn’t” even worse those financial rules broken are all allegedly before 2018 so the last 5/6 seasons play no part in the investigation at all!
If Man Utd had just won the treble they would have doubled that city revenue
115
Liverpool for 1
The last 5/6 seasons wouldn't have been as good without the previous years
Of course they do! Without the cheating City's current success wouldn't be happening. Take out City's State ownership money and shenanigans - they'd be just another mid-table club
Be a long while before utd get another treble simon my old teapot
Might be a long while before Man City win a ucl again I don’t know 🤷♂️
@@aryan.4855 afternoon panjeet
@@britpackdog4545don’t disrespect Man Utd, you look up to us. Remember that. You might got all these trophies but you don’t have our legacy and history. You are still on come up.
@@aryan.4855 old Trafford is falling down
@@aryan.4855United isn't even in top 5 biggest clubs 😂😂
Simon still living in the past and refusing to move on. Its not the 90s anymore
He's hang a good ol' dip at top6 utd man
If those breaking the rules are not punished, then what is the point having any rules, if the rich clubs get treated differently what is the point having rules, either have rules that are clear and apply to every club regardless of their wealth or don't have any.
currently CITY are the biggest on and off the pitch. We can't sit here and start arguing if Man u won if if if if if ......... that's irrelevant.
On the pitch yes but not off, Utd and Liverpool have far more supporters. Could take city 20 years to get to their support level
They are winning more yes, but they aren't and never will be bigger. Just don;t get it do you???
@@MrSleep-id5bz the issue in question is about record revenue in football history more that that of the might real Madrid let alone Man u
@@peterscott2937 I get that city reported record revenues in football history more than United and even Madrid
IF IF IF. United aren’t winning the premier league again 🤣🤣🤣
They won enough in my youth but I'll be back just like Liverpool were I just hope it's not for a long time😂
Neither is your team Assna 😂
When United were on top of the world, Simon Jordan had blonde curtains... i think deep down its the curtains he really misses and he somehow connects those curtains with Man Uniteds success for some unknown reason...
8:33 Goliaths earn the lot of achievements that allow for such income. MU don't and haven't for over a decade.
Completely ignoring that they cheated to gain success. If someone cheated in the first 15 hands of poker you'd throw them out on their head and then retake all the money they stole..You cant applaud city for being well run in 2023 when they have cooked the books for over 15 years
When a club don’t care about money, only to justify buying more players which city do anyway no matter what the Rules
So what have we learned during the City era? I'd argue that we've learned that any team that can spend like Utd, with a generational manager at the helm, can dominate the Prem and maybe even win a treble. So...good on City. Cheesy's favourite line should probably fit in right about here: "Isn't it great to be a blue."
UTD generate their own income so they are entitled to spend it. city owners pumped money into the club unfairly and against the rules. there is a difference from earning it fairly and doing it against the rules
@@IrfanKhan-oh1eh The future is promised to no one, especially when former glory is harder to come by when the playing field is level and a noisy neighbour cares only for defining their own legacy, instead of demanding respect for past deeds instead of earning it on the pitches of today.
United are still the biggest club in the world just unfortunately we are a sleeping Goliath atm
its ok to allow the 115 charges to be dropped. But you will also need to be fair to the other teams and allow them a quota of 115 violations to be waived so everyone is on a fair playing field. Then even a pub club can be treble winners with oil money. Thats fair.
£600 million of that revenue came from selling stuff on buy and sell websites.
Winning more equals more glory supporters which equals more shirts and more prize money etc 🤷🏻♂️
...that's true...until the next loss
As a former club owner and 50m of the Queens pounds lighter you should know not to start a statement with the word IF.
Nonsense,this is like me saying if United didnt achieve whatever they achieved whatever they achieved then they wouldn't been considered Goliath either regardless of City,going in circles here,City are a powerhouse now.
Simon Jordan backing the courage of his convictions, but putting himself in an invidious position. Absolute berk !
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I am a City fan of 51 years. I have no issues with Simon's take on my club both on and off the field.
i am a season ticket holder for 50 years and i do
How long did this financial genius keep crystal palace in the premier league was lt one well done simon 😂😂😂
This is the best I’ve seen Simon!!
United is a history .
But yet they are only where they are because of prior ffp so it makes it even harder for the new owners who purchased clubs after the ffp ruling ....so how do these clubs catch up if they're not allowed to spend the amounts Chelsea and city did at the start of their new owner reign even if they can afford to do it ...
answer the charges then and clear all doubt ,if they can
Answer the Howard Webb charges in 90s and 2000s then we'll talk 😂
People who are uspet about how man city spend theyre money and how they make theyre money aren't happy with their own clubs
where do they get this info...last time i checked manunited had a 203million wage bill still the highest
Why is Jim is so clueless does he do it on purpose?
Bayern Munich generated more money than City in 22/23 FYI…
Simon Jordan is perfect for media in this country in 2023. He sounds clever, says some edgy stuff, and that's enough to convince the masses.
How on earth are they making this much revenue, without dodgy inflated sponsorship
These media and United fans keeps on living off from the brand of United 😂😂
They aren't even getting FA cup let alone Prem title or even the Champions league..Wake up to reality and stop living in the dinosaur era 😂
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Are these charges ever going to be resolved for Man City
It seem like they're not wasting time with Everton and Chelsea 😅😂
This is what will happen Everton and Chelsea will get point deductions and city will walk out the back door all good. Even though they have broken way more charges than Chelsea and Everton
Interestingly they lost few hundred millions ...due to winning a treble. Bonuses had to be paid.
city’s accountants at it again lol
I am a City fan and I agree with Simon . If United won the treble they would beat City's revenue. One big reason is that Old Traffords capacity is 20,000 higher than The Etihad .
And you don’t sell out every home game and you don’t sell many shirts home or abroad
Does show you how smart Klopp has operated
Klopp spent 700/800m, that’s close to billion. He shouldn’t be complaining.
Liverpool fanboys thinking Klopp is operating on a shoe string budget like Palace or Luton town 🥴
Quit makin everything about ur f💔💔kin Europa league Liverpool‼️🙄😆
And leave it for LiVARpool fans to make it about themselves as if they've spent on a shoe string budget 😂😂
United fans crying we love it 😂😂😂
FFP too retrospective? And Citeh willing to take say £100m fine now for a treble win & thus incurring sponsors for years?!
Its amazing how this guy ridicules man city when they are THE best run club in the premier league on and off the field
Facts
Just get it sorted asap if they have broke the rules and don’t get punished in the next 5 years how many more times are they gonna win every thing the damage isn’t done it’s still going on
Revenue is huge because it's worldwide. United have the biggest Pre-season games in the US.
The biggest game if Im not wrong was United vs Barcelona at camp nou.
City will never reach that appeal unless they start beating United on pre-season.
Let's say they smash them in Saudi. All the celebs take pics with Haaland. That's a market share won.
M City should be punished severely. Chelsea to a lesser extent. Everton should maybe lose than 9 points, like say 5 points because they were investing in the new stadium and as well as spending too much on players. Newcastle did it perfectly, Eddie Howe improved the team on a modest budget.
Took City a treble and the downturn of a decade of united's form to finally out earn Man Utd.
We all know those figures ain't right..
The owner's massively inflated sponsorship deals and all that...
MAN CITY TREBLE 🏆🏆🏆 WAS AWESOME FROM A VILLA FAN.. AGREE WITH SIMON
"consequence" isn't a verb, Jordan
Two seasons ago when they beat Liverpool by a point Simon they would not have won the league if they got a points deduction. Never let facts get in the way of your argument.
City's revenue is just paid in by themselves.
Yes City paid themselves for winning all those trophies 😅
@@GermanChickenwingPrecisely. And that’s cheating.
So punishment is due!
@@marco6131 What ? City paid themselves after winning treble?
You forgot to mention only one premier league club been fined for braking the FFP RULES 😂😂😂
Yeah but they didn’t, City did.
Simon needs to propose to man united and Liverpool so he can live his happiest life
Guarantee that isnt all money they have made isnt money generated that is money that the owner has put in, city are just taking the piss at this point everton get ten point deduction so what has to happen to city has to be huge
There are FIVE financial "irregularities" (prem speak) not 115 or 30 as Simon Jordon claims. As for the trafford red sox getting bigger revenue if they won the treble how come Manchester City had a bigger turnover the season before when neither of them had won a treble?
Record profits wouldnt be hard to find when the sponsors you are bringing on board are owned by your owners, chairmen etc. Every man and his dog knows there is financial doping occuring, yet it is a 'remarkable achievment' - give me a break.
Amazing how they refer to the REVENUE but not the main indicator, which was the unprecedented increase in commercial revenue and the proportion of that earnings that have come solely from connected parties to their owners...
Which has a direct bearing to the charges, as the main crux of their offense is the over valuation or material misstatement of their commercial deals.
SJ gives the longest yes/no answers ever.
The blame for all this financial fair play rests with Tommy Trinder . Back in the Fifty's he paid Johnny Haynes £100 a week to stay at Fulham, and look at the state of things now!
At least players in those days had a pint with the fans after the match.
Ye if i use 30k of dodgy money to then launder that money and turm it into 100k then goliath yes ..30m to 100m same thing and 300m to 1b