Sports lawyer discusses the Premier League charges against Manchester City

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2023
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    Sports lawyer Stephen Taylor Heath shares his expert opinion on the Premier League charges against Manchester City for alleged breaches of financial rules.
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  • @mosanso
    @mosanso Год назад +453

    Charges will be dropped and then magically the Premier league will get a 1 billion dollar a year new sponsor from a betting company based out of Malta with 2 employees.

  • @tinsaederesse9173
    @tinsaederesse9173 Год назад +1209

    Everyone is talking about what will happen to City but no one is talking about what will happen to the PL if they don't get this right.

    • @cookofdenton4190
      @cookofdenton4190 Год назад +88

      They must have proper evidence to go ahead.

    • @Astro_Gorilla
      @Astro_Gorilla Год назад +75

      Yep, loss of credibility is a very real prospect right now and they don't have all that much to start with

    • @eddyededwin
      @eddyededwin Год назад +46

      OR what will happen to the UK if they dont get it right (considering the club is run by the country's biggest investors)

    • @ianfrancis3605
      @ianfrancis3605 Год назад +13

      Super League

    • @robertmclellan3658
      @robertmclellan3658 Год назад +10

      @@cookofdenton4190 Yeah like EUFA? The Premier league had a French investigator called Clouseau apparently.

  • @chrislacey8776
    @chrislacey8776 Год назад +507

    Sheffield Wednesday and Derby were chucked out of the championship to league one for discrepancies less than this and yet conceivably City can and most likely will get away with all this. Where is the consistency?

    • @celtshaun1427
      @celtshaun1427 Год назад +60

      Mabe VAR can sort it out.

    • @Behold__Optic_Blast
      @Behold__Optic_Blast Год назад +35

      I agree. It's brutal how there is no leeway for smaller clubs but they'll always bend over for bigger clubs and let it slide one way or the other. Hopefully, not this time.

    • @clementine2001
      @clementine2001 Год назад +21

      @@Behold__Optic_Blast Man City is League One Size.

    • @rodolphendessabeka8721
      @rodolphendessabeka8721 Год назад +12

      It's billions vs millions.

    • @duuley
      @duuley Год назад +9

      If you pay the authority you could get out of it😂

  • @alinzie252
    @alinzie252 Год назад +279

    The worst kept secret, no one should be surprised. Them and PSG both

    • @jdf2100
      @jdf2100 Год назад +42

      don't forget chelsea. The original plastic club

    • @hypello9534
      @hypello9534 Год назад

      @@jdf2100 keep crying🤡🤫

    • @emmanuelokokon2342
      @emmanuelokokon2342 Год назад +17

      Chelsea have broken no rules

    • @hypello9534
      @hypello9534 Год назад +18

      @@emmanuelokokon2342 no point talking to these 🤡’s.

    • @Chulu.10
      @Chulu.10 Год назад

      @@jdf2100 keep my club's name out your f*@king mouth 👋💥

  • @Jericho642
    @Jericho642 Год назад +631

    You dont get to go from being championship fodder to one of europes elite teams in just a few years without greasing a few wheels and bending a few rules. Its crazy to me that its taken so long for them to be found out

    • @ImNoctica
      @ImNoctica Год назад

      @Merovingian1882 Pretty sure there wasn't financial fair play rules at that point so as much as I hope chelsea burns they did nothing wrong (well until 22 23)
      City have blatantly flaunted the rules and I hope the Emptyhad gets nuked

    • @RS__7
      @RS__7 Год назад +115

      @Wink1882 Chelsea were far more established than Man city when Chelsea were taken over by Roman... regularly getting top 4 and winning cups nowhere near the second division like city

    • @zee1unknown171
      @zee1unknown171 Год назад +47

      @Merovingian1882 😂 broski compared man city and Chelsea back than

    • @LosPoderes7
      @LosPoderes7 Год назад +70

      Roman took over a Champions League side with previous legends like Gullit, Desailly, Zola, Vialli, Poyet… Man City were a relegation team who’s most iconic players were Richard Dunne and Darrius Vassell…

    • @Tom-wr6mq
      @Tom-wr6mq Год назад +39

      @@zee1unknown171 man is comparing lampard, terry gudjhonsen, zola, vialli, gullit and hasselbaink to joey barton, richard dunne and steven ireland lmfaooooo

  • @mrchickflick4444
    @mrchickflick4444 Год назад +79

    Is this lawyer Ai generated

  • @anthonym3351
    @anthonym3351 Год назад +394

    Fergie time winning a title 10 years after retiring congrats sir alex

    • @tsogtoo
      @tsogtoo Год назад +20

      Winning a title in Fergie Time fr

    • @Whatabozo9
      @Whatabozo9 Год назад +19

      2011/12 aguero never happened

    • @lescorlett4133
      @lescorlett4133 Год назад +4

      And he didn't need to buy a ref a Rolex for the win.

    • @shanefoy3720
      @shanefoy3720 Год назад

      Well this means we (lfc) should have won the Premier league 4 times that would take us above united in league wins, so utd want to be thankful too city, absolutely insane like

    • @JasW79
      @JasW79 Год назад +6

      @Shane Foy No cause United would have 3 more titles..Also mean Fergie wins another title as does Mourinho and Solskjaer 🤣

  • @Robert.Sheard
    @Robert.Sheard Год назад +153

    Massive financial penalty, points deduction, relegation, transfer ban, European ban. I'm not really interested in stripping past titles; I don't think it means anything to have a "title" given to you fifteen years after the fact. Everything else is a relevant penalty going forward, not trying to rewrite the past.
    If City just get a slap on the wrist, the government should impose an independent oversight body on English football because clearly the league won't police itself.

    • @bobness9842
      @bobness9842 Год назад +11

      Your comment made me laugh out loud. You’re just a random internet guy on his keyboard talking about how you don’t want a premier league champions medal. Like who are you to have an opinion? You’re not even an athlete bwahah

    • @zee1unknown171
      @zee1unknown171 Год назад +2

      Agreed too harsh taking away past trophies all they should do is a big fine and relegation to the championship.

    • @robovac3557
      @robovac3557 Год назад +9

      Its not about it meaning something to the 2nd place team. Talk about missing the bigger picture.

    • @turunturun
      @turunturun Год назад

      @@zee1unknown171 you mean like they do with Olympic Medals? If you won the medal by cheating and you get to keep the medal then the medal has no integrity. But it’s less about the medal and more about a public stripping of the title. If you are found to have cheated to win the title - and you get to keep it anyway - then the title has no integrity. The issuing authority of the title has no integrity. Everyone has to accept that the EPL is no longer a fair league, it is just “reality tv” entertainment scripted to look like real life when in fact it fake.

    • @mymemories925
      @mymemories925 Год назад

      @@bobness9842 throw the book at them! Set a precedent so Newcastle don't get away with this type of behaviour! No brown envelopes can wipe out those 100 breaches! City are trapped and need to comply otherwise more embarrassment is on the way

  • @2slaza250
    @2slaza250 Год назад +75

    Relegation should be the minimum penalty. Although I think it should be like rangers when they where sent to the bottom of the Scottish football pyramid, city should be demoted to league two

    • @duuley
      @duuley Год назад +6

      In our dreams they would face relegation. They will just pay the PL good ransom and things would get sorted out.

    • @FredericFreedom
      @FredericFreedom Год назад +7

      @@duuley I doubt this will happen this time.round.
      They will want to make an example of them. Other clubs will.lobby the PL to take proper action. I believe they are in serious trouble.

    • @shashankjha5436
      @shashankjha5436 Год назад +4

      @@duuley Chelsea used loopholes in their favour that got everyone's attention and there were discussions of putting other regulations of pl and football. So this move is a statement that we can regulate ourselves since they can't do nothing to Chelsea.

    • @lescorlett4133
      @lescorlett4133 Год назад

      Tranmere said they're willing to swap places with City as soon as it's convenient.

    • @markdouglas9875
      @markdouglas9875 Год назад +5

      @@duuley no club in English football history has done what man city potentially have... They need to face a hefty punishment

  • @ImNoctica
    @ImNoctica Год назад +40

    strip them of all silverware in the last 9 years, relegate to league 2 and force the oil baron's out. Sounds fair

    • @brianjacob8728
      @brianjacob8728 Год назад +3

      this goes back to 2009, so it's more than 9 years...

    • @LilTlovesKFC
      @LilTlovesKFC 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@brianjacob8728 from 08/09 to 17/18 so yeah, nine years

    • @colins.lotherington695
      @colins.lotherington695 Месяц назад +2

      You are probably a red supporter who is jealous of a good football team like city.

    • @ImNoctica
      @ImNoctica Месяц назад

      @@colins.lotherington695 I'm jealous of how easy it is to get a ticket to see such a small and unhistorical club in action tbf so you're not wrong

    • @rugbyguy59
      @rugbyguy59 26 дней назад +1

      @@ImNocticaThen you’re not talking about City as City have history and attendance as good as anyone

  • @ShaniAce
    @ShaniAce Год назад +19

    I always felt 'remuneration' was a weird word. Glad to see even a native struggling with it. :D

  • @isaackent2355
    @isaackent2355 Год назад +150

    It would make no sense to fine them, as they'll just come up with money from an unknown place to pay it, which is why how they broke the rules to begin with. You need to strip the titles like the would if an Olympic gold medalist was found out to be a cheat.

    • @mariadassanthony3263
      @mariadassanthony3263 Год назад +21

      Relegate them to 4th Div and transfer banned for 10 yrs

    • @pedropierre9594
      @pedropierre9594 Год назад +25

      Honestly takin one Prem away from them would be enough to mark them as cheats forever the British will never let them live it now i can hear the chants already

    • @itop5
      @itop5 Год назад

      Who cares about politics amd regulations just watch the fun competition premierleague👀

    • @keithzengeya5604
      @keithzengeya5604 Год назад +2

      im ok with points deduction, 10-15 points

    • @andrewvaughan5686
      @andrewvaughan5686 Год назад +6

      @@keithzengeya5604 they'd likely still get a CL spot with that

  • @The_Orgazoid
    @The_Orgazoid Год назад +4

    3:24 the lawyer looks straight out of Goldeneye on the N64

  • @urbanapache2
    @urbanapache2 Год назад +81

    Are teams going to start asking for compensation? Think of teams that got knocked out or relegated, and European spots. Serious stuff. Surely they have to be halted from playing immediately? This can't go on for 4 more years!

    • @SUB2-TypicalCity-MancunianWay
      @SUB2-TypicalCity-MancunianWay Год назад

      Yeah they wil ask for compensation for a unfinished verdict. Get a grip and learn how the courts work before you open your gob.
      Guessing your a rag , bad numbers and common sense. 🤡

    • @iammeliaskhan
      @iammeliaskhan Год назад +4

      so sour

    • @jackmiller-johnston8689
      @jackmiller-johnston8689 Год назад +18

      @@iammeliaskhan how it that sour? Financial resources are vital in football.

    • @bbbbaa6550
      @bbbbaa6550 Год назад

      To complicated. Other teams will say you don’t know what would happen to a certain team who should be on top instead of city and the score in the games they played might end up different.

    • @zypherrrx3741
      @zypherrrx3741 Год назад +1

      All of the compensations will be included in the court hearing

  • @nicolaslomonaco7086
    @nicolaslomonaco7086 Год назад +53

    Give them 100 pts deduction over 5 years, 20pts per season

    • @pubg-blsy3352
      @pubg-blsy3352 Год назад +4

      100 points !!! Might aswell relate them.

    • @allip2modsaresimpingdiscor284
      @allip2modsaresimpingdiscor284 Год назад +22

      @@pubg-blsy3352 14 years of cheating, 100 points is nothing

    • @thefontofallgarbage8480
      @thefontofallgarbage8480 Год назад +3

      Sounds severe but City can hit 90 pts easy, what position would 70 leave them in?

    • @ImNoctica
      @ImNoctica Год назад +1

      @@pubg-blsy3352 If I was the scumbag in charge of city I'd be laughing if I was just relegated. I'd do it for another 10 years in fact

    • @fresh.prince7472
      @fresh.prince7472 Год назад +7

      Send them to league 1 where they belong 🤣

  • @KayJay1984
    @KayJay1984 Год назад +25

    That sports lawyer looks like my avatar on football manager 😂

    • @derekhoward9201
      @derekhoward9201 Год назад

      And prob only knows as much haha

    • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
      @oldskoolmusicnostalgia Год назад

      Probably being paid off the books by City the way they did with their former manager 😜

  • @samayo9746
    @samayo9746 Год назад +69

    If a lowly club did just one of those breaches once they would find themselves down by two leagues

    • @bighands69
      @bighands69 Год назад +6

      If Man Utd or Liverpool did this they would have the book thrown at them.

    • @pepsiaxe2937
      @pepsiaxe2937 Год назад +4

      @@bighands69 Don't make me laugh 😂

    • @lewisreynolds5283
      @lewisreynolds5283 Год назад +2

      Man City are a lowly club though?

    • @PhilipKerry
      @PhilipKerry Год назад +2

      Rangers of the Scottish Premier League got demoted three divisions ......

    • @padraig-bobotia-maria5176
      @padraig-bobotia-maria5176 Год назад +1

      @@PhilipKerry they got liquidated not demoted

  • @michaelfarrow5817
    @michaelfarrow5817 Год назад +86

    The accusation seems to be that they were paying Mancini and several players off the books. Surely that renders those players retrospectively ineligible and the games they played in would have to be changed to walkovers. That would mean that Man City would have to have the titles they won - every point they won tbh - to be taken away. If they cheated to win, scrub their names from the record books.

    • @Tannhauser108
      @Tannhauser108 Год назад +8

      Those are the least serious allegations being made. IMO this is going to explode into a whole other monster involving government and title-stripping will seem trivial

    • @eddyededwin
      @eddyededwin Год назад +1

      if those are the only allegations that stick they wont get a big fine. mancini was paid 1 or 2 million off the books. in the grand scheme of things that literally nothing. its the other things that are WAY more serious ie fault accounting

    • @Crowdolskee
      @Crowdolskee Год назад +1

      They also allegedly made deals with companies at significantly inflated prices. Like making deals with UAE corporations where they got paid way more than market price. Basically laundering money in from UAE through fake deals.

    • @thelmaviaduct
      @thelmaviaduct Год назад +7

      @@Tannhauser108 exactly, it's fraud. Clubs, players and fans have been financially defrauded.

    • @turunturun
      @turunturun Год назад +3

      @@thelmaviaduct man, it’s a good thing this didn’t happen in the US. Bankers, regulators, and credit rating agencies defrauded investors, pensioners, and institutions in 2006-2008 with subprime mortgage instruments, and U.S. taxpayers had to bail them out. Good thing we borrowed most the bailout money from China. 😂😂😂😂

  • @Cosmic-Wanderer
    @Cosmic-Wanderer Год назад +79

    Its from 2009-2018.
    But even after this the alleged cheating obviously affects the coming years 2019-20-21-22 up to now since players they have signed during the offences are still there now or have only just recently left.

    • @JOEFABULOUS.
      @JOEFABULOUS. Год назад

      The hearing will be in Switzerland again payoffs made again nothing serious will be done Again

    • @JoeBob79569
      @JoeBob79569 Год назад +22

      Yea, and there's also the possibility that they have gotten better at cooking the books since the scare they got a few years ago..

    • @capaillyoung
      @capaillyoung Год назад +1

      It’s a continuing offence as they have continually failed to provide disclosure

  • @meridaohara6453
    @meridaohara6453 Год назад +15

    Man city to the premier league: "So how much to make it go away" 😂😂

  • @kevinwilliams1421
    @kevinwilliams1421 Год назад +12

    How did he know what questions was being asked without his ears

    • @sarah369.
      @sarah369. Год назад +1

      LoL 🤣👍earless 😆138 Phoenix ... love from the Archaix family💚 ((( man city will get away with this)))🤔

    • @allezlesrouges
      @allezlesrouges Год назад

      Telepathy

  • @nickstephens2664
    @nickstephens2664 Год назад +51

    Was appalled how MCFC were let off so lightly by UEFA and how harsh EFL in comparison towards Derby and Wednesday! We have the greatest league in the world and now is time to prove it has integrity as well as everything else. Need nothing less than a relegation and a lengthy transfer embargo !!

    • @cazdoll32
      @cazdoll32 Год назад +2

      they were let off lightly due to being able to supply evidence to prove themselves innocent

    • @nickstephens2664
      @nickstephens2664 Год назад +1

      @@cazdoll32 I imagine PL having enough evidence as have pressed the red button opening Pandora’s box!!! Expect Will be a long time but justice must prevail! Points won’t be enough cos would need over 50 deducted to nearly hurt!!!

    • @danjomanjo2941
      @danjomanjo2941 Год назад

      They were let off beacause the offences were time sensitive and due to statue of limitations, but pl does not have these rules.

    • @verdebritanica
      @verdebritanica Год назад +1

      Don't forget Leeds United. They got a couple of deductions and languished for years in league one.

    • @Geokinkladze
      @Geokinkladze Год назад

      The offences that weren't time barred were not proven.
      Some of the offences were time barred but there was nothing to suggest they were any different.

  • @Ricardo-ur5os
    @Ricardo-ur5os Год назад +47

    It’s going to be big what they get. One of the biggest stories in premier league history no doubt . There’s no way the premier league would openly make it this big of a thing if they weren’t going to impose very harsh sanctions , I’d be very worried if I was playing for or supporting city right now

    • @mark.isthmusrealtys.a.cost9019
      @mark.isthmusrealtys.a.cost9019 Год назад

      No quite the opposite .. FA wants investment in PL as financially healthy clubs make the FA richer and have a knock on effect in lower leugues … in case no one noticed the PL is about making money and lots of it

    • @lofnouk
      @lofnouk Год назад

      Nobody supports them. Who gives bugger? Send them down to the National League (north).

    • @rubens6619
      @rubens6619 Год назад +8

      @@mark.isthmusrealtys.a.cost9019 stop coping 😂

    • @samking5101
      @samking5101 Год назад +23

      Both Man City fans are incredibly concerned

    • @mymemories925
      @mymemories925 Год назад +5

      @@mark.isthmusrealtys.a.cost9019 bruh the premier league managed fine when City was in the championship!

  • @PatrickHobley
    @PatrickHobley Год назад +18

    This lawyer is clearly sitting on the toilet…that webcam background isn’t fooling anyone 👀

  • @derred723
    @derred723 Год назад +6

    there are over 101 charges. They are accusing them of INTENTIONAL misrepresentations. This is NOT entirely clerical errors. That's absolutely absurd. If it was some accidental clerical error when notified they'd have submitted proper docs and that would be the end of it. They have charged them with obstruction. That's intentional. They've been charged with lying about how much they were paying both the manager and their players. That's not clerical. This is serious misrepresentation accused of here.

    • @Tony605
      @Tony605 6 месяцев назад +1

      115 charges.

  • @lozcontreras
    @lozcontreras Год назад +26

    They will get a points deduction in 2024, then appeal, and have it reduced to a fine. Might aswell save us all some time and just fine them now.

    • @wowthatsbs
      @wowthatsbs Год назад +1

      Exactly , just like the Uefa ban. It’ll end in a fine

    • @BCync
      @BCync Год назад +2

      That's why they are scrambling to get a result in before a regulator comes in

    • @noad1001
      @noad1001 Год назад +3

      People keep repeating the UEFA ban this is lazy analysis and different situations. In UEFA case was weakened because of technicality status of limitations but the PL doesn’t have that and you can be charged for things you did 20 yrs ago

    • @anthonybariek997
      @anthonybariek997 Год назад

      I don’t think it will. The FA and the EPL are trying to convince the government not to make an “ofcom” of football and that they’re not corrupt. If they let City off, it could make them look weak and mean the government will definitely create an independent football regulator

    • @stunnerofagunner
      @stunnerofagunner Год назад +1

      Portsmouth got relegated 2 divisions for alot less with alot less eyes on the FA/ pressure on Uefa from other leagues after Chelsea's spending so I wouldn't count on that

  • @bl1tzz1
    @bl1tzz1 Год назад +22

    This is the reason City didn't peform well lately, maybe they had this issue in the dressing room.

    • @turunturun
      @turunturun Год назад +17

      Also explains why Liverpool have been performing poorly - all the players are like, “we gave 200% last 4 years but got screwed out of 2+ titles because it’s a rigged system nobody does anything about. Why bother.”

    • @daniellastuart3145
      @daniellastuart3145 Год назад

      yes there been told the back hand payments have been stop

    • @daniellastuart3145
      @daniellastuart3145 Год назад +5

      ​@@turunturun no you promfining poorly because of Klopp refusal to deal with defensive issue over is time has a manager and talk about a rigged system please you part rigged system in stopping other clubs breaking the stranglehold the big six have over the premier league, Liverpool are no better than Man C in being corrupt at times

    • @tomstar1800
      @tomstar1800 Год назад

      @@daniellastuart3145please explain how Liverpool are as bad as city at being corrupt oh wise internet historian?

    • @rezaimran98
      @rezaimran98 Год назад

      @@turunturun So what about Arsenal then? Suddenly this season they have been doing so well.

  • @NOORAHMED-wi8hy
    @NOORAHMED-wi8hy Год назад +15

    Few days ago - Pep calls out 9 PL Clubs writing to PL to have City Banned,while Chelsea spend 600M
    Few days later - PL Sanction City
    Coincidence,Corruption?😂

  • @3082frank
    @3082frank Год назад +15

    I gotta say, the background work on the lawyer screen is priceless. He should be fined for such a bad green screen 🤣🤣

  • @jw6143
    @jw6143 Год назад +15

    There's no way that's his body under his head.

    • @NeymarJr-uz4ph
      @NeymarJr-uz4ph Год назад

      😀

    • @MA1R
      @MA1R Год назад +1

      Bro that's a violation, I mean you are right though

    • @cookofdenton4190
      @cookofdenton4190 Год назад

      Wish my hair moved that much, be great for picking up women.

    • @c.s3369
      @c.s3369 Год назад

      🤣🤣

    • @aneiquasamuels8519
      @aneiquasamuels8519 Год назад

      I thought I was the only one who saw it

  • @PanduricaBlues
    @PanduricaBlues Год назад +5

    I heard they won't strip them of their CL titles.. so unfair.

  • @ManvirSingh-lj4kp
    @ManvirSingh-lj4kp Год назад +36

    Eras come to an end - Erik Ten Hag

    • @A4Gaming
      @A4Gaming Год назад +9

      We had no idea the violence that man had planned

    • @MrLewbaah
      @MrLewbaah Год назад

      It will rain one day as well

    • @abushe1364
      @abushe1364 Год назад

      This is man united plans to win more title 😂

  • @danniwilder2198
    @danniwilder2198 Год назад +15

    At the root of all this is how City's biggest commercial revenue comes from a company owned by the club owners...Etihad. This has been the fundamental difference between Chelsea & City. At no time during Abramovich's 19 years did he have one of his company's sponsor Chelsea. Chelsea's sponsorship & commercial revenue always came from companies with no connection to Abramovich.

    • @paljones4408
      @paljones4408 Год назад

      u are chatting shit....u are allowed related sponsorship.....it just needs to be fair value and uefa/prem decide that

    • @justinmagagani8835
      @justinmagagani8835 Год назад +2

      Chelsea operated above board. Most teams did not like them splashing the cash, but the cash came from loans from RA a true sugar daddy, not fake revenue.

    • @ravd8082
      @ravd8082 Год назад

      if man city got the evidence to give against these breaches they would give but dont

  • @mrchickflick4444
    @mrchickflick4444 Год назад +26

    They will get a points deduction that will be appealed which they’ll win and they will just have to pay for the premier league committee’s Christmas party

    • @bobness9842
      @bobness9842 Год назад +2

      Can’t appeal whatever consequences if any is ruled over them

    • @Britishgeohistorian
      @Britishgeohistorian Год назад +7

      @Super City you can't appeal a Premier league ruling full stop. No high cort, nothing

    • @abrahamjames7004
      @abrahamjames7004 Год назад +1

      @@bobness9842 They can appeal to another panel set up by the same commission

    • @dalefrancis9414
      @dalefrancis9414 Год назад

      @@Britishgeohistorian You really think the PL has that much authority?

  • @yt.personal.identification
    @yt.personal.identification Год назад +3

    The Tax office might be next in line to look into some of these issues, especially player and manager remuneration.

    • @Samivermusic
      @Samivermusic Год назад

      Hmrc are already investigating a pl club for avoiding tax on player salaries. To be fair though they have not said who so may not be city.

  • @valezeb
    @valezeb Год назад +11

    Woow , i have a feeling that Man city is done. This is Big.

  • @jpshawn9144
    @jpshawn9144 Год назад +27

    It sounds like the lawyer are actually discussing with the owner how much they will get to make this go away.😂😂

  • @kanilin946
    @kanilin946 Год назад

    Thank you very much for the detailed report.. didn't know head or tail about it until now..

  • @Consumelesscontent
    @Consumelesscontent Год назад +46

    Of course they want an independent regulator involved, then they’ll get the brown envelopes out to those people checking everything 😢 I’d be gob smacked if they get a massive points deduction or expulsion from the PL

    • @pubg-blsy3352
      @pubg-blsy3352 Год назад +1

      Keep dreaming with that expulsion.

    • @Consumelesscontent
      @Consumelesscontent Год назад +9

      @@pubg-blsy3352 I’d be gob smacked but hopeful 🙏😆

    • @thefontofallgarbage8480
      @thefontofallgarbage8480 Год назад +4

      We're all thinking just that, a fine is getting away with it.

    • @MrKajjaGG
      @MrKajjaGG Год назад +9

      There's simply no way they face any kind of meaningful punishment. The system is rigged.

    • @eddyededwin
      @eddyededwin Год назад

      Actually, its in the prems interest to prove or even blackmail the gov to not bring jn individual regulators. the prem are accusing the countries biggest investors of fraud. the gov will kinda be worried about that considering they are trying to get them to invest more

  • @ricksheard1093
    @ricksheard1093 Год назад +20

    Relegate them... the FA needs show it has some balls and some integrity

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification Год назад +2

      The FA doesn't run the Prem.
      The FA does run the Championship and the rest of the leagues, however.
      If City does get kicked from the Prem, then the FA could refuse to let them in the league at all.
      Now that would be a show of strength.
      They are separate entities.

    • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
      @oldskoolmusicnostalgia Год назад

      And this is exactly why the FA isn't handling anything there. It will be handled by "independent" people (who come from the same walks of life as City's owners, but that's just a coincidence).

  • @marcusaurelius49
    @marcusaurelius49 Год назад +57

    Rules are rules. It is even more important to hold the rich and powerful to the letter of the law or the rules become pointless. Throw the book at them.
    What makes this case most egregious is that everyone could see City were full of sh*t

    • @lescorlett4133
      @lescorlett4133 Год назад

      Everything is equal unless you've got a bottomless pit of money.

  • @longshlongsilver293
    @longshlongsilver293 Год назад +160

    So THAT'S how a small lower level club all of a sudden starts getting big and winning stuff...cheating. who knew.

    • @clementine2001
      @clementine2001 Год назад +2

      ...and may it be a lesson for everyone.

    • @azzarruah4311
      @azzarruah4311 Год назад +3

      a lot of people knew...just difficult to proof it.

    • @derekrolfe7052
      @derekrolfe7052 Год назад +2

      I know it’s weird it’s like every fan from every club knew this but it took 10 years for the premier league to work it out? Clearly Chelsea didn’t do anything wrong either

    • @coling8176
      @coling8176 Год назад

      Sounds like a Man.U supporter to me....

    • @IlikeTrainsguy100
      @IlikeTrainsguy100 Год назад +4

      The saltiest comments are everywhere.
      City just got lucky with great owners. They invested a lot of money and unlike some teams (Everton) actually spent it wisely.
      Bought some of the best players in Premier League history and the rest is history.
      I don't support a Prem team so idc but the tears of fans of so called big teams is so funny. Especially as the most tears are coming from Man U fans. Funny how they're fine with buying the league for 2 decades.

  • @fulty6305
    @fulty6305 Год назад +9

    14 year ban from the premier league... i think ill enjoy it, i think i deserve it...

  • @HMM9817
    @HMM9817 Год назад +26

    If they broke the rules for 13 years straight that should result in punishment for 13 years and taking their trophies away.

    • @JOEFABULOUS.
      @JOEFABULOUS. Год назад

      The hearing will be held in Switzerland again payoffs made again nothing serious will be done Again

    • @tenout1083
      @tenout1083 Год назад +1

      dosent change the fact they were better than everyone 😂 money dose not mean success look at man united and chelsea spending… takes a well run club coach and team to get citys type of success

    • @Max-qw8eq
      @Max-qw8eq Год назад +5

      @@tenout1083 United DIDNT break rules like Man City so pointless to bring that up

    • @IcarusHUD
      @IcarusHUD Год назад +2

      @@tenout1083 are you clapped? take the money away from city and theyre a relegation side....lol
      where were they before the money? fighting for middle of the table, they were better than other because they could afford the best.
      money DOES mean success.

    • @abdullahisaid316
      @abdullahisaid316 Год назад

      @@IcarusHUD the best money thats absurd from u mate united spent more than city so if money can give u success it will be definetely united so city played good football and showed who they are in the pitch

  • @brianjacob8728
    @brianjacob8728 Год назад +5

    One side of Manchester is gonna be REALLY BLUE now.

  • @samayo9746
    @samayo9746 Год назад +5

    Justice delayed (to the rest of the clubs, bar Chelsea) is justice denied

    • @Daza-La
      @Daza-La Год назад

      Evidence? Or you just going with the flow?

    • @samayo9746
      @samayo9746 Год назад

      @Thanbir Al-Azad clearly if ManCity are cleared of all 115 charges then you know that the system is, without a doubt, flawed.

  • @markphc99
    @markphc99 Год назад +2

    We are going to aggregate a long list of various rule violations dating back from 2009 and throw the book at you now? Bizarre

  • @benbutcher9672
    @benbutcher9672 Год назад +3

    No way. I commented earlier about the inability to pronounce remuneration, now my guy's suddenly putting extra emphasis on every time he says it. Does this mean they actually look at the comments?

  • @yoiamgucci2743
    @yoiamgucci2743 Год назад +4

    So intrigued as to how this will play out; we need to be mindful that they haven't been found guilty of anything yet. Things "not looking good" doesn't mean guilty and trial by media in just the last 2 years on much more serious accusations have resulted in no action and apparent, innocence. As an Arsenal fan keeping a keen eye on this I feel like a points deduction this season IS NOT the correct punishment. Punishing the past has little to no effect, taking titles away from players that did nothing wrong doesn't sit well with me. I can't imagine Man United and Liverpool players would be that thrilled about getting winners medals for finishing second. They are elite athletes that will see that regardless of potential balance sheet fraud they were beaten on the pitch and a winners medal wouldn't change that.
    The punishment must relate to the future and it must be a punishment that can be applied to any future club moving forward. We cannot have the view that "well we won't bother with a fine because its Man City and they won't feel it" - in the event of being found guilty of these charges league expulsion must be on the table given what has happened to teams in the past. Points deductions have been a punishment used against Luton, Derby, Bournemouth, Rotherham, Leeds, Bury and Wigan off the top of my head; I am sure there is more. As far as I know in most cases it was for going into Administration; this isn't even cooking the books or attempting fraud (although some of the clubs were guilty of financial offences). The punishment must be severe enough that no other club looks to replicate what Man City are accused of and I'll be amazed if its only Man City that are under investigation for these charges.

    • @adamkeef9253
      @adamkeef9253 Год назад

      They cheated. Of course they should get titles taken off tbem

  • @DamianBrown
    @DamianBrown Год назад +4

    They'll do nuttin'

  • @DjDolHaus86
    @DjDolHaus86 Год назад +21

    A handful of mistakes can be an administrative error. 100 cases is not a handful

    • @mymemories925
      @mymemories925 Год назад +5

      No brown envelopes large enough will wipe out 100 breaches!

    • @robeltonash2964
      @robeltonash2964 Год назад +7

      100 cases over a decade .what was the pl doing all that time?

    • @mokkaveli
      @mokkaveli Год назад +3

      @@robeltonash2964 they were obviously watching the situation since 2009, they've been building this case for 4 years

    • @Walkalonghere
      @Walkalonghere Год назад +1

      City have refused to provide the documents they obviously had enough and charged them because they feel the case is very strong and justified.

    • @purplehaze2342
      @purplehaze2342 Год назад

      Depends how big your hands are, I mean are they Jeremy Beadle hands or Nephilim hands ?

  • @PaulHattle
    @PaulHattle Год назад +2

    Relegation must be the punishment. Punishment must be severe to deter others.

  • @ellibod1
    @ellibod1 Год назад +4

    Points Deduction?
    Transfer Ban?
    Expulsion?
    Something has got to happen

  • @RJ1J
    @RJ1J Год назад +2

    Well. I have no idea what the lawyer beyond agreeing with every question he was asked. He cleared nothing up. Made no useful comparisons to Rangers or Juve. Waste of time.

  • @livewireredb.9953
    @livewireredb.9953 Год назад +10

    Quite sure Man City had a duty of care to provide accounts which gave a true and fair view under company regulations, anything otherwise is quite serious.

    • @mymemories925
      @mymemories925 Год назад +7

      When you claim to have made more revenue than real Madrid with a smaller UK fanbase then spurs, then the alarm bells started ringing for the premier league investigation panel!

  • @jason-xq6gc
    @jason-xq6gc Год назад +8

    Meanwhile Chelsea have had to get a new chequebook to carry on there free spending in the summer, HILARIOUS 😂

    • @kenjoi9413
      @kenjoi9413 Год назад

      People seem go forget that and pointing fingers at chelsea🤣

    • @jasonvanzyl652
      @jasonvanzyl652 Год назад

      Comparing apples to banana's.

    • @kwakka636
      @kwakka636 Год назад

      They have not broken any rules and will spend more ,clubs are just jealous tell me any club that wouldn’t want a new owner to come in and refresh the club with new players . Todd Bohly is In investments as his business so he knows how to make money he is no mug. Salty fans “ Chelsea this Chelsea that “ 😂

    • @jason-xq6gc
      @jason-xq6gc Год назад +1

      @@jasonvanzyl652 take it city are the bananas, Chelsea know about the loopholes.

    • @jason-xq6gc
      @jason-xq6gc Год назад

      @@kwakka636 I know yh, there smart about it, that's the funny thing about it.

  • @alberto4509
    @alberto4509 Год назад +21

    THEY SHOULD BE RELEGATED.

    • @debo_8946
      @debo_8946 Год назад

      Lmaooo sounds like you’re scared bro

    • @ShashankD137
      @ShashankD137 Год назад +1

      In your dreams

    • @MrCool-md3wq
      @MrCool-md3wq Год назад

      Don't be stupid, the most expensive club to be relegated,what did they get with it?

  • @pbsuite
    @pbsuite Год назад +1

    The media squeezing as much juice as they can from this

  • @ishadowmarshall282
    @ishadowmarshall282 Год назад +2

    As Manchester United supporter there is nothing more I would like than to see Manchester City get punished.
    But I also love football and I understand that this is not only about City but more importantly about saving our Premier league. The Premier league has to get this right, they cannot afford to muck this up.

  • @_rajat_biswas_
    @_rajat_biswas_ Год назад +6

    Arsenal started losing matches and now if points are deducted from man city.... everything is going in the favour of man utd 😂

    • @obrianjohnson6097
      @obrianjohnson6097 Год назад

      Everyone going to lose more points. GUNNERS !!

    • @macdonaldibe4667
      @macdonaldibe4667 Год назад

      Keep dreaming ..

    • @abushe1364
      @abushe1364 Год назад +1

      So true 😂

    • @daniellastuart3145
      @daniellastuart3145 Год назад

      and Man U are sweet and clean , Please there no better, I think they Finances also need looking at as all the big 6

    • @obrianjohnson6097
      @obrianjohnson6097 Год назад

      Surely not GUNNERS we play with mostly home grown over the years bro

  • @Christopher-dk7ol
    @Christopher-dk7ol Год назад +3

    points deduction and a two year transfer ban

    • @zeryz_
      @zeryz_ Год назад +2

      For 14 years cheating?

  • @cloud_c5222
    @cloud_c5222 Год назад

    What are the official and final punishments for the infringements

    • @barrygreene007
      @barrygreene007 Год назад

      Did you not watch the video? They spelled out all the possible punishments for us.

  • @Jubbable
    @Jubbable Год назад +2

    Why did it take so long to bring these charges forward? This has going on since 2009. Talk about slow.

    • @tinsaederesse9173
      @tinsaederesse9173 Год назад

      FFP was made to protect the Big Boys so no other club can be bought by someone who wants to improve the club and compete.

    • @tinsaederesse9173
      @tinsaederesse9173 Год назад

      Ffp started within years after City were bought

  • @rorus9530
    @rorus9530 Год назад +4

    Trouble is. these clubs will always find some loophole to keep spending ridiculous money.

    • @mymemories925
      @mymemories925 Год назад +1

      Not this time round, the premier league has got them by the throat!

    • @rorus9530
      @rorus9530 Год назад +2

      @@mymemories925 This time maybe. But what about in the future with Newcastle. Or currently with Chelsea?

    • @celtshaun1427
      @celtshaun1427 Год назад +1

      @@mymemories925 Careful you can get a red card for that 🤣😂🤣

    • @Daza-La
      @Daza-La Год назад

      @@rorus9530 finding loopholes is literally doing something ethically frowned upon whilst legally correct. So definitely not the same thing. What's legal is legal. That's a problem with the legal framework if anything.
      City aren't being investigated for loopholes. These are serious allegations.

    • @tonynogueira8900
      @tonynogueira8900 Год назад

      Boom boom they eventually got caught.

  • @justbenny9067
    @justbenny9067 Год назад +17

    I've been waiting for this for a long time now. Tbh I kinda want them relegated, chuck them down to league two or something, let them work their way up again

    • @darrengallagher2208
      @darrengallagher2208 Год назад

      it needs to be more than that they need stripping of titles cups etc as they have won them with dodgy money used to buy and pay players wages they really couldnt afford and shouldnt have had playing for them which as given them a advantage over other clubs ,clubs have been robbed of titles and cups cos of this and also other clubs have been relegated and lost revenue and players cos of them and there dirty corrupt cheating ,do i think anything will happen not a chance they will buy there way out of it and get the least punishment possible and make the case itself drag on for years which will suit city the legal team and the premier league

    • @stephenhamilton6718
      @stephenhamilton6718 Год назад

      @5718applesnack Yes we did. Its been known for many years the PL was investigating City

  • @thewhoaddicts
    @thewhoaddicts Год назад +1

    Gary Neville has recently said “Something doesn’t seem right at Manchester City.”
    He was right…

    • @zapre2284
      @zapre2284 Год назад

      True...but Gary Nevile also takes back hander from Qatar

  • @prakashm1468
    @prakashm1468 Год назад +12

    And City fans laughed when United brought players on loan. Now,the entire country is laughing at them.

    • @pranavpradeep9396
      @pranavpradeep9396 Год назад +1

      United can't win trophy anymore

    • @AlexThomasy2k
      @AlexThomasy2k Год назад +2

      Still in a better place than cheating accusations 🤣

    • @paulmartin3946
      @paulmartin3946 Год назад

      @@pranavpradeep9396 shut up

    • @domw9055
      @domw9055 Год назад +1

      I’m not laughing so no it’s not an entire country

    • @pranavpradeep9396
      @pranavpradeep9396 Год назад

      @@paulmartin3946 no,you won't do anything 😂😂😂

  • @zeddluciano1775
    @zeddluciano1775 Год назад +8

    If they get away with it then it’s a slap in the face to the rest. Teams like qpr, sheff wed, derby, rangers etc faced consequences (less wealthy). City got away with it by hiring too lawyers to avoid uefa ban.

  • @Ace-cc2wl
    @Ace-cc2wl Год назад +5

    just deduct 40 points each season from 2009 to now. also find them 50 mill per season from 2009 to 2018 + 1 mil per breach so over 600 million pounds has to be paid in the next 20 years.

  • @HIYAharry
    @HIYAharry Год назад

    A decent fine (that means nothing to the owners), and relegation is my prediction! Relegation to the championship would allow them to recover, if they go to league 1/2 I think it's all over.
    I wonder if players have clauses that allow them to leave (or wages drop) if they are relegated.

    • @IcarusHUD
      @IcarusHUD Год назад

      i was thinking like, what happens to the stadium in this event? do people still go watch league 1/2 city? or do they sell the stadium? to who? etihad is nice, but its no Old TRafford, UTD wouldnt want it, the capacity is too low

  • @karthiknarayanan3705
    @karthiknarayanan3705 Год назад +3

    Strip them of all titles

  • @CharleyOlivesss
    @CharleyOlivesss Год назад +11

    I can see the EPL not doing a thing about this but a fine they wont have the guts to stand up to City

    • @mymemories925
      @mymemories925 Год назад +8

      Trust me bruh there will be harsh punishment! We are talking about man City not man utd! The premier league can survive without man City and Did so for many years! But man utd, Liverpool, arsenal are the clubs that get the most views

    • @HomoErected
      @HomoErected Год назад

      It's not the EPL that decides what happens

    • @HowardoColeBrown
      @HowardoColeBrown Год назад +1

      @@mymemories925 you're just jealous lol no one cares...man utd still spend more than city and fail...liverpool and arsenal are banter clubs...you clowns

    • @chbmuhidin8266
      @chbmuhidin8266 Год назад

      @@HowardoColeBrown stfu go and check the table Arsenal 🔴 are number one and they will win the league easily you can cry if you want

    • @HowardoColeBrown
      @HowardoColeBrown Год назад

      @@chbmuhidin8266 arsenal ain't winning squat...you can't even beat spurs for a 4th spot with games in hand...banter fc..you miserable clowns

  • @macdonaldibe4667
    @macdonaldibe4667 Год назад +3

    Derby county and Sheff Wednesday fans should start a protest immediately . Man City shouldn’t get off from this. They have been cheating for years. If FA fail to handle this issue well, I’m losing interest in football.

  • @contrxversial
    @contrxversial Год назад

    Quality, suppose they better turn the grow lights off

  • @afroflexshowafroflexing4067
    @afroflexshowafroflexing4067 Год назад +1

    Football is a really stressful business by the sound of it 😅

  • @stocko5448
    @stocko5448 Год назад +6

    after what happened to sheff Wednesday and derby i await the outcome of this, but already know what will happen "nothing"

  • @JoeBob79569
    @JoeBob79569 Год назад +5

    Damn, this is the kind of stuff that rival fans absolutely love!
    City fans and players are going to be jeered and booed for the rest of the season, with chants of "Cheaters, Cheaters" at every game.. 🤣

    • @Walkalonghere
      @Walkalonghere Год назад

      So they should.

    • @JoeBob79569
      @JoeBob79569 Год назад

      @@Walkalonghere Yea, I'm looking forward to it..

    • @yt.personal.identification
      @yt.personal.identification Год назад +1

      Why limit it to this season?
      It should go on for 13 years.

    • @JoeBob79569
      @JoeBob79569 Год назад

      @@yt.personal.identification Knowing how fans hold grudges, and love to pick at scabs, it will probably go on for 130 years!

  • @anthonyabdorab
    @anthonyabdorab Год назад +1

    funny thing is the 2 players from city went to arsenal and who is top of the table strange struggled to finish 8th 2 times.

  • @TheRightWayRoundTRWR
    @TheRightWayRoundTRWR Год назад +1

    Also Red Flags should have been aware when they posted that they made the most from Revenues

  • @kyiraanboyle-smart4039
    @kyiraanboyle-smart4039 Год назад +3

    And he also sounds like he was at the pub 😂 7:30

  • @noufelouafi8313
    @noufelouafi8313 Год назад +8

    City now Chelsea next

  • @briannao9251
    @briannao9251 Год назад +2

    Imagine if Man City makes the Champions League Final this season but due to the sanctions from the FFP violations, gets dq’d a few days before the match, resulting in the opposing team winning the Champions League total by default!! That’s be the most dramatic Champions League moment ever … EVEN MORE than that chaotic yet Iconic 2nd leg of the quarterfinal between Man City & Spurs in the 2018-19 Champions League Season!!!

    • @SUB2-TypicalCity-MancunianWay
      @SUB2-TypicalCity-MancunianWay Год назад

      Didn't read it mate. Smoke another one

    • @zypherrrx3741
      @zypherrrx3741 Год назад +1

      I think they will be sanctioned before the knockout stages start and just disqualified them from Champions League.

  • @supernorskfreak
    @supernorskfreak Год назад

    I'm wondering if they should also investigate Chelsea, as their spending are not good

  • @Habibi.United
    @Habibi.United Год назад +20

    Any club found cheating financially in a football competition should be stripped of their titles won in that period.
    Would stop it overnight. Forget transfer window bans and fines, does nothing.
    Strip the titles.

    • @debo_8946
      @debo_8946 Год назад

      And we would win them all back 😂😂😂

    • @lemueil2102
      @lemueil2102 Год назад

      Strip mancunian in fergi era

  • @adkesto213
    @adkesto213 Год назад +8

    as a Liverpool fan, I respect every club in the league other than City and Chelsea. If City get away with this then it gives Newcastle the green light to get started with buying their way to the league. They need to be heavily fined and relegated to the Championship. The City players have earned their PL medals though over the years so you can’t take that away from them but in the future City should never be winning another PL ever again or at least for a very long time!

    • @Harshavardhan-qk5by
      @Harshavardhan-qk5by Год назад

      And give us our robbed 2 PL titles...

    • @MatSenthul
      @MatSenthul Год назад +2

      Newcastle have chosen to not follow the footsteps of Man City & Chelsea. They have been quite pragmatic in their tranfer business. Newcastle has now seen the perils of Man City's underhanded practices & will be presented with a more sustainable way to manage its resources & investments. This situation just opens up another spot available in the top 4 in the future.

    • @Harshavardhan-qk5by
      @Harshavardhan-qk5by Год назад

      @@MatSenthul yea I mean Newcsstle just got their money (by the recent saudi takeover) so they will find some other safe ways to remain at the top

    • @ED-TwoZeroNine
      @ED-TwoZeroNine Год назад

      @@Harshavardhan-qk5by 3

    • @Harshavardhan-qk5by
      @Harshavardhan-qk5by Год назад

      @@ED-TwoZeroNine yea my bad

  • @k.p.8955
    @k.p.8955 6 месяцев назад

    It makes no sense that these charges go back so far. PL was so unaware that there was incompliance in the past? That is bizarre.

  • @dwayne2558
    @dwayne2558 Год назад +1

    Where are all the Chelsea fans.... they're usually very vocal.

  • @JohnJohnson-jm8ku
    @JohnJohnson-jm8ku Год назад +3

    If the only punishment would be a financial one, what difference would it make when they have access to unlimited funds anyway? The only punishment that would affect them in any way is relegation and taking away their Premier League titles, or at least some of them.

  • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
    @oldskoolmusicnostalgia Год назад +4

    There seems to be an awful lot of "independent commissions" in the UK whose only role is to... maintain the status quo and keep things going as they are. Like the one on wage negotiations siding with the Tory government. Who seriously believes this is going to be different this time? Maybe the country could develop "independent commissions" as an export product, I am sure trading partners will be hugely interested.

  • @GeordieJamie84
    @GeordieJamie84 Год назад +2

    Watch pupunishment will be a fine

  • @canadiandiydad
    @canadiandiydad Год назад +1

    Always wondered how they made money when a quarter of their stadium is always empty.....all makes sense now.

    • @seth1455
      @seth1455 Год назад

      I think you'll find that all top clubs make most of their money from commercial deals and sponsorships.

  • @ghostzm3031
    @ghostzm3031 Год назад +4

    Hope the independent commission can really be independent..haha

  • @anthonybardsley4985
    @anthonybardsley4985 Год назад +7

    A feeling of what happened to rangers springs to mind .

    • @RiwenX
      @RiwenX Год назад

      Completely different story.

    • @StrikingAlexa
      @StrikingAlexa 6 месяцев назад

      Rangers folded

  • @robbieclarke4530
    @robbieclarke4530 Год назад

    Would love to know their argument for why it has taken them so long to pull a club up for continuing to break rules. Why even have rules if allow clubs to ignore them for years!

  • @olayinkagiwa6714
    @olayinkagiwa6714 Год назад +1

    No wonder they were the called the "noise neighbours" by Sir Alex. They were playing music with a stolen sound system.

  • @Kisyfurr
    @Kisyfurr Год назад +3

    Super league here we come. This will make city even bigger

  • @hereistand2008
    @hereistand2008 Год назад +3

    Just order the owner to sell the club 😂

  • @kevinwalker3755
    @kevinwalker3755 Год назад +2

    Lets face it, the PL and cartel of big clubs don't want City winning titles so they are doing all they can to stop it, also previous titles will be stripped from City. FFP is anything but fair. It's a way for the big clubs with huge fan bases to stop smaller clubs winning things. In other words a protection racket.

  • @zee1unknown171
    @zee1unknown171 Год назад +2

    Relegating them and fining is enough

  • @greaterthanharrowk1679
    @greaterthanharrowk1679 Год назад +3

    I just want a league title for Ole 😢🤣🤣