With a hundred charges against them, how can they possibly get away with this? If they do, there should be an investigation into the finances of those people involved in the hearings and disciplinary panels.
Thanks for confirming the knuckle draggers are out in force. Allegations aren't guilt, notwithstanding that you want them to be. The real crime here is FFP. According to fans of Liverpool and ManU, City are against the spirit of football because they allegedly breached FFP. But FFP was only brought in in the first place to permanently cement the position of Liverpool and ManU. I know which one I think was the real crime, but the knuckle draggers won't care.
I've been saying for years that success and silverware these days is bought and not earned. City have gone from a team that was relegated in 2000/01 season to a team that has won the title 6 times in the last 11 seasons. You can't tell me that that transformation has been earned fairly.
So guilty until proven innocent then and even after were found innocent you'll still claim wrongdoing lololol no due process you just wanna skip straight to judge jury and execution 😂😂😂😂
They should not be allowed to play football again. This is clearly against what football is all about and they bought it with money. Total DISRESPECT to this sport.
I think City got caught with their hands in the cookie jar and is trying to deflect and defer any judgment against them. I do agree a fine would be a hollow gesture as the club can afford it. Not sure how effective a transfer ban would be as they have a lot of depth in their roster. A points penalty and or relegation would make more sense. This all depends on how tough the Premier League wants to be. Will they hold them accountable and hammer them or will they give them a slap on the wrist because it is better for business?
@@joebarthram596 Props to being honest about it mate. I always respect your original fanbase, for crying out loud my favourite band are City fans! 🤣 It's the fair weather guys that make me nauseous
While I am a Liverpool fan, the real point here is to prevent the not big clubs from loading up on so much debt that they collapse. But to do so, there has to be certain rules that apply to everyone, especially in terms of providing honest financial numbers.
Again where is your proof of man city breaking ffp rules?? UEFA have tried the same method and failed. Because they had no proof either. Everything so far is conspiracy theories
Knowing its true and actully proving it by chasing the money is a different thing. This took four years and it seems like City where not fully cooperating either and dragging it out, probably hoping on the same techincality that got them off the UEFA charges. There is no time limit on PL investigations afaik. It just makes them seem more guilty in my eyes tbh.
Makes no sense, so FA Cup and EFL cup eliminations, how would that work. Would they give the runner up even tho the other semifinalist teams lost bcos they played city
@@divinest Everton finished 5th in 2013.. Should we get either CL money or qualification for the CL. How far down should this go? Points deduction and a fine should happen this seasons points only , most likley just a fine is what will happen.. but in public mind there will be asterisk beside everything they've won.
Why wait for too long. It's killing the game. Why would a team refuse to give certain information and then wait for too long before action is taken against them?
Because it's like volunteer finger prints. You don't have to hand them over, but if you don't you look more guilty. These cases take years for some reason. If this was in america it wouldn't even be completed this century
Remember the information was originally obtained through a hacker. So obviously it takes time for the Premier league to legally obtain the information and then build an airtight case
Capitalism is probably man's more beautiful and pure creation but yet we distort and manipulate it for our own benefit. Sometimes I feel we are not worthy of such things.
@@garythefishable It's certainly not man's more beautiful creation. From the very inception it's been a creation of tremendous violence, subjugation, corruption, environmental destruction and precarious, unstable expansion. The "ideal" form of it doesn't even make sense. If your goal is to make money, stay alive and on top as a firm and the mantra is "greed is good", why would you _ever_ play fair? How could you ever expect anything but the most ruthless and immoral of characters to quickly come to dominate it? No successful capitalist in their right mind, from any period of time, would say "well competition is good so I shouldn't try to buy out upstarts or make the industry inaccessible and just lose marketshare. I shouldn't use these egregious piles of cash I have to bribe politicians and weaken regulations so I can make more money." The thing is, even if one person wants to be responsible, someone is guaranteed to come along who isn't and the ethical guy will lose out. That's why nobody can be ethical if they want to do well as a capitalist.
@@garythefishable Capitalism has these flaws built inherently into the system. This is why we need to move forward and try and remedy those flaws and not allow people to exploit these loopholes to benefit everyone
It's not capitalism, it's greed and corruption and if you don't know the history of clubs in communist countries, their leagues were corrupted to the point that winner was known before season start.
Everyone knew they were making a joke out of FFP but they did it for so long people accepted it. It would be good to see a proper punishment for clubs like this that can breach the rules 101 different times - a transfer ban + point deduction for this season + relegation.
everton have money but cant spend it and have nearly been relegated over it. as an everton fan i wish we'd just broken the rules like city and became to big to truly punish.
I don’t know, remember all these elite clubs tried breaking off and creating a super league, I’m glad to see us as a proper club even if we’ve been ran badly
Man City hasn’t done anything wrong they came one of the best clubs in the world but brought world class players in so what is the problem I don’t not get it like
ur a manchester united fan who probably doesnt live in manchester, because theres no way the city could afford to lose such a product, eastlands would retreat back into a brownfield site, thousands of jobs lost
Yes they are they have won the league lest year have you forgot about that and no I disagree city hasn’t done anything wrong it just seems everyone are against city for becoming one of the best clubs in the world they made themselves the best team in the world and win trophies they have brought best players in so what is the problem like
"Liquidate man city" say the man with united chest as his pic. the pl has no power to liquidate a club :) Your comment is so ill-informed and ridicules it makes me laugh (im not a city fan fyi)
If they really have been dealing unfairly on this level then pretty much everybody should be pissed at them. Like every club (and their fans) who have been runners up in the years they won the league, and every club who missed out on a Champion's League spot, or a Europa League spot, or who got knocked out of a cup by them, etc. And not only that, but there's also the fact that if they won by cheating then this means they also unfairly inflated their fanbase, which essentially gave them more "real" income, because winning teams will always pick up a lot of plastic fans who eventually become real fans. And also everybody at City who _wasn't_ in-on-it should be pissed at the club, because their names will get dragged through the mud. If they really are cooking the books as severely as it seems then they should get the book thrown at them, titles stripped, massive fines, and dropped completely from the league, to start again at the bottom.
Everyone new they was cheating, but because it’s only city the news never jumped on them. They just did the same with the halland deal. Buyout 75m yet they got him for 54m. 100 charges tho is a disgrace
Because due process is a thing? Because so far these are just allegations? Loads of allegations against Benjamin Mendy that didn't hold up in a court of law. You can have hundreds of allegations but thats all they are is allegations lolololol
@@TheRedBaron1917 its the premier league making these allegations Lmao, the owners of the league city are playing in. It was random people from the street accusing mendy.
Liverpools 90+ point seasons are now the best collections of seasons in PL history. What an Era for Klopp. Completely cheated out of 3 Prem titles. This is an absolute disgrace for the league.
@@imedi Totally agree! I'm a West Ham fan and it even makes me feel sick! But we are where we are now and City fans would always say "We could have won it if, if, if...". I'd rather they weren't able to do that. Looks like this will drag on for a while now anyway.
They DESERVE EVERYTHING THATS COMING TO THEM. Not just 1 case a 101 and thinking they can get away with it and winning prem titles it's disgusting really
Chelsea obviously broke fair play rules. Their spending was a joke too. Not to mention: the origins of the money spent. Absolutely disgusting football entities.
Because they are a "big 6 team,minimal punishment,Premier League WON'T dare relegate them,points deduction will be not enough to make a difference,and financial punishment ,to owners who are worth billions,won't make a hole in their fortune.Look at Rangers,Juventus and Saracens ! Relegate them at the end of the season,void their title wins,and start them in the Championship on - 46,point per game. Won't happen though
City are a big 6 team because of their financial backing not because of their fanbase. Everyone apart from City's owners and the 4 members of their supporter's club would cheer if City were relegated. 👍
Lets be honest its not just City that are doing those 100+ breaches is crazy, that just proves that FA cant keep up anymore. Lets make the rules more strict and more easy to be proven and enforced (but not made on size of the club), like for example salary cap (1mil pounds a week) and transfers cap (100 mil per windows).
Then the money gets taken out if the clubs by shareholders. The high wages keep the money in the game. High level football is the only place where the 'employees' actually get paid well in comparison to the work they do for the success of the club, You'd need to find a way to limit money which could be taken out of the club by shareholders because if there is spare money they aren't going to reinvest it back into the club they are going to paid themselves a big dividend for just being a shareholder.
@@LushhN And titles won during that period stripped and awarded to 2nd place teams from those years. Otherwise the meaning and weight of winning the EPL title is tainted.
Highly doubt they’ll face any action 😂 Derby County’s breaches in the EFL were minuscule compared to these claims against Man City so would be surprised to see the outcome
Relegate them to Vanorama National and impose a 9 year transfer ban. Relegating to Championship would not be punishment enough. Cheating is cheating, and this looks egregious.
they will takethe Premier League to court and all hell will break loose if that happens Chelsea Man United might never recover because all titles will probably be stripped since 1992-93
And if City manage to prove that even just a couple of them are false, and the Premier League are lying or fabricating things, this whole case could collapse in a second ....
So basically what he's saying will happen next is that six individuals who weren't that rich are about to become very rich and City will be free to continue buying trophies with oil money.
Seriously. The FA need put that pool of individuals that may be selected into protective custody immediately otherwise that's exactly what's going to happen.
Exactly. Docking points in the season where they actually balanced the books isn't right. It should be in the seasons they actually cheated. I say go back dock 15 points on each season then whoever comes out on top won the league or made the champions league. Champions league teams that would have made it need to be compensated.
1) Take the titles in these periods from City & give the titles to the teams immediately behind them - Man United, Liverpool & Man United. 2) Give them a heavy cash fine.
Lols. You sound like a City fan. If proven guilty, they cant strip them of titles, what they can do is strip them of as minimum of 30points, strip them from the Champions league, place an embargo for transfers for at least 2years and pay a fine. That way no other team would try such
Financial penatlies won't hurt City unless it's an unpressidented amount, circa £200mil for instance. The only thing that will punish them is no UCL for 2/3 seasons, similar punishment that happened in Italy, points dectuction and relegation.
After about half a billion has exchanged hands into someone's bank account in Zurich. City should be sent down a few leagues, fined severely and their owners forced to sell up in order to send a message that people treating football clubs like playthings and abusing fans and the general public through extortion for decades will be dealt with.
Send them to the national League. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from a club that couldn't even win the champions League after spending ridiculous amounts of money
And this will now hasten the formation of the super league. The PL will revert to being a fight between Liverpool and ManU, and no one will care because all the best players will be in the super league.
@@daleviker5884 the super league would not be a sport. It would be a spectacle. A performance only meant to entertain. It would not be competion, just pageantry.
If they are guilty of all charges there isn't a punishment harsh enough to serve justice. Because they'll have likely robbed titles and fan experiences from numerous other clubs.
@@ameto6864it wouldn't bother you that you'd cheated to get them? And cheated others out of rightfully winning? I'm really starting to see the City fan base in a different light these past 2 days. None of you seem to be bothered that you might have cheated. You just want glory. Its despicable. I don't think fans should be punished for the owners mistakes but when it comes to city fans... I think you deserve it.
poor lad. been brought up to support a club filled to the brim with tourists😂 i bet he cant wait for a tour of old trafford for his next birthday, hope hes ready for the 3 hour journey 😂
Great news for Leeds at this moment. Pep said he would leave if the club lied to him, just in time to walk into Elland road. We will be above Liverpool by the end of the season!
that really doesnt mean anything really. the moments already happened to people and you wont reward other teams the silverware that shouldve been won. fairest punishment, for a club with city's financials, is relegation. It probably wont happen and they will just be deducted a huge amount of points. but if you want to send a message that you wont tolerate this, relegation does that
@@Jgarthebeast True enough the moment has passed but I would award the second place team the title as would be done if an Olympic gold medalist is later disqualified. It shouldn't stand that a team that is later found to have cheated to obtain something should be let keep it. Nothing can be done about the moment of celebration being lost. Relegation would be one season. There are many Olympic sprinters who would accept a lifetime ban to win a gold medal. Thank God they didn't win the Champions League.
@@Harveygregorxotwod What do you mean "giving Manchester City trophies to weak clubs"? The same thing also applies to: 1.Sunderland (2014 EFL Cup). 2.Watford (2019 FA Cup). 3.Aston Villa (2020 EFL Cup).
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i want this punishment to the next year, just to don't hear any trash talk "Arsenal only won because City lost points"
Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. TEN HAG'S (Ole 4.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!
@@TheRedBaron1917 pure bias lmao, so there just shouldn't be any consequences? regulations are useless if they're not enforced, and we all know a fine does nothing
@@destinydavid3969 Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. TEN HAG'S (Ole 4.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!
Argh, I would hate it if it’s true . I feel betrayed as a football fan. All these years of Man City ruling premier league would be such a shame for football
They’re destroyed the reputation of our league, ruined a lot of clubs seasons and cost clubs big money from qualifying for champions league places, winning domestic cups and winning league titles, they should be held responsible for everything they’ve done and made to start again from the very bottom of the pyramid.
This looks worse on the leagues than city considering the time frame they’re looking at. Violations from 2009-18! Any punishment is simply a precedent for other clubs. Such a joke, but still really curious what’ll happen
I can imagine that City will be facing several years worth of Transfer embargo, a very hefty fine and a points deduction for the beginning of season 23/24.
It's the only way to keep Pepe as manager, he only wins titles with plenty of money to buy top players,would like to see him at a club with not a lot of finance see how good he really is.
Now City fans are gonna attack Chelsea I am sorry Chelsea might be overspending for players but we don’t fiddle with the books (lie about revenues) 😂 We all should have seen this coming when City had bigger revenues than Madrid United Barca 😂 with their 50 fans can’t fill up their own stadium 😂 (Aka Emptyhad) I am pretty sure those 50 fans will be disappointed man over 100 Violations
There’s no other way to put it, it’s just not fair. Either relegation or docked points for all seasons and titles withdrawn are the only justifiable punishments. What is the point in the rules otherwise
Few of the worst-case scenarios mentioned here actually happened in Serie A, although it was a matter involving corrupted referees: Juventus was relegated in 2006. This season, due to financial breaches, Juventus has been deducted 15 points, which is something could happened to Man City.
If Manchester City were to be found guilty I think a 10 year ban from representing England in U.E.F.A competition would be appropriate punishment. A point deduction for this season would be a joke. Giving out titles retrospectively don’t sit well with me. Those teams have already been denied the opportunity to enjoy the thrill and experience of celebrating in front of their fans. It’s won’t be the same feeling been given titles years later.
All true footy fans including City fans would agree that they have bought the PL championship for the last umpteen years and it was just a matter of time before they were pegged up on it. Now we will see if Pep is true to HIS word and walks away from them. Actually I would suggest if anything Pep must have known what was going on, if he did he should be brought to task with the club.
I disagree with removing trophies, the players still earned them. However, banning them from playing in European football for a number of years as well as transfer bans would be suitable in my eyes.
@@lifeinslo-mo595 im not a city fan. And yes they did, we was talking about the players, its not there fault. Plus you are the type of person to say city cheated yet turn a blind eye to Liverpool.
Very mealy mouthed from Kaveh Solhekol. Also, 0:40 "Here's a breakdown of EXACTLY what City are accused of. It's more than 100 breaches of....."! How is "more than 100" "exact"? And Man City react with the universal, palms-to-the sky, "I didn't do what I just did" gesture.
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It's like Arsenal have saved up all of their luck from the last 15 years to use in one season
😂 😂 Their game plan all along
Huh? Arsenal has worked since birth
@@makhanu91 Yeah bribed there way into the league
Except the Jesus injury
Lol😂
Well, it seems that City refused to pay someone somewhere.
🤣🤣🤣 100% mate and now it seems like they will end up paying even more than the initial amount 🤔
Solid comment
It's Yaya - they didn't get him that birthday cake!
@@barragin9893 It's that Shaman 🤣🤣🤣
Cancel snitched…
Thoughts and prayers to those working in the Newcastle club shop. Must have been a busy day.
Lmao, this is gold
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With a hundred charges against them, how can they possibly get away with this? If they do, there should be an investigation into the finances of those people involved in the hearings and disciplinary panels.
101 charges.
Watch they will get a slap on the wrist and get 40m in fines that’s it
A charge doesn't make you guilty
Thanks for confirming the knuckle draggers are out in force. Allegations aren't guilt, notwithstanding that you want them to be. The real crime here is FFP. According to fans of Liverpool and ManU, City are against the spirit of football because they allegedly breached FFP. But FFP was only brought in in the first place to permanently cement the position of Liverpool and ManU. I know which one I think was the real crime, but the knuckle draggers won't care.
Money talks
I've been saying for years that success and silverware these days is bought and not earned. City have gone from a team that was relegated in 2000/01 season to a team that has won the title 6 times in the last 11 seasons. You can't tell me that that transformation has been earned fairly.
LCFC: the only club ever to not buy the league.
no one is saying that man. Everyone knows they bought players....
How is any league fair when some Clubs spend ten times what others do?
@@Gos1234567 Chelsea?😂😂
@@rosscofox Not close to being true is it, for a start your rivals Derby and Nottingham Forest didn't buy the league.
100 breaches!!!? Okay if any other team had 1 breach they would get punished but 100 breaches and still nothing will probably get done.. disgrace!!!
nah something will happen. Too much coverage.
Slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.
I can guarantee you that other teams have broken the rules but haven’t been found out
Like Chelsea did and got a transfer ban...
Also why does this take over a decade to figure out?
I'm sure all the 16 City fans will be devastated by this!
Exactly 💯 by next week nobody will care about this story
Typical bum sniffers.
@@AntonMacca likes say otherwise
Football fans buddy they have a good team
seen this exact comment on another video. we live rent free in your head😂
If they don’t receive serious punishment then I honestly would like to see everyone else be allowed to cheat
Yes, either enforce the rules to their full extent or don't have them at all.
So guilty until proven innocent then and even after were found innocent you'll still claim wrongdoing lololol no due process you just wanna skip straight to judge jury and execution 😂😂😂😂
No one stopping anyone.
Just look at Chelsea
They should not be allowed to play football again. This is clearly against what football is all about and they bought it with money. Total DISRESPECT to this sport.
Lol everyone else cheat too
I think City got caught with their hands in the cookie jar and is trying to deflect and defer any judgment against them. I do agree a fine would be a hollow gesture as the club can afford it. Not sure how effective a transfer ban would be as they have a lot of depth in their roster. A points penalty and or relegation would make more sense. This all depends on how tough the Premier League wants to be. Will they hold them accountable and hammer them or will they give them a slap on the wrist because it is better for business?
Probably a Slap on the wrist, promoted as a big punishment.
IF they’re guilty
Moneytalks🤷♂️
They have to hammer us or the rules mean nothing, and this is coming from a city fan...
Points penalty is way worst than any fine.Will probably be at the start of next season,I’d say 20 points along with fine
Give them relegation. Who cares. They will be back in EPL to destory everyone again lol
@@joebarthram596 Props to being honest about it mate. I always respect your original fanbase, for crying out loud my favourite band are City fans! 🤣 It's the fair weather guys that make me nauseous
Kaveh should seriously become a politician. Once again he manages to speak endlessly in circles without saying a damn thing. He truly has the gift.
Relegation is the minimum 100 breaches is outrageous
In just 9 years
Never gonna a happen epl ain't that stupid to religate there biggest club gonna be point deduction or a transfer ban that's it
@@user-do4gb3jd5f city ain’t the biggest club in England tf you smoking 😂😂
relegation for not cutting the grass properly lol
@@user-do4gb3jd5f biggest club? They have about 50 fans🤣
Everyone knows about these rule-breaking adventures over the years, and Liverpool has burned itself out trying to keep up with them.
So true.
A lot of teams have financially burned out. Not just the so called greatest team in PL history
While I am a Liverpool fan, the real point here is to prevent the not big clubs from loading up on so much debt that they collapse. But to do so, there has to be certain rules that apply to everyone, especially in terms of providing honest financial numbers.
Again where is your proof of man city breaking ffp rules?? UEFA have tried the same method and failed. Because they had no proof either. Everything so far is conspiracy theories
Knowing its true and actully proving it by chasing the money is a different thing.
This took four years and it seems like City where not fully cooperating either and dragging it out, probably hoping on the same techincality that got them off the UEFA charges.
There is no time limit on PL investigations afaik.
It just makes them seem more guilty in my eyes tbh.
Give Klopp, Mou and Ole their titles!!!
And Rodger’s
and fergie
Makes no sense, so FA Cup and EFL cup eliminations, how would that work. Would they give the runner up even tho the other semifinalist teams lost bcos they played city
the players won the title. not the cheating arabs
@@divinest Everton finished 5th in 2013.. Should we get either CL money or qualification for the CL. How far down should this go? Points deduction and a fine should happen this seasons points only , most likley just a fine is what will happen.. but in public mind there will be asterisk beside everything they've won.
I love that the first question was "why only man city?" :) What a question in the face of the evidence.
Well Chelsea got punished a few years back.
@@VampireJack10 that was due to signings of players under the age of 18 nothing like what’s happening with city
Horrendous journalism that.... unless he was thinking of Chelsea as he asked it. Then that changes things 😂
He's a Citeh fan.
@markbooth2848 and a berk too.
Points deduction or a fee will not be harsh enough. Relegate them to league 2. Send a statement to draw the line for such breaches
it happened to juventus
Would like to send our condolences to all 4 city fans out there❤️❤️
4 city fans😂 that’s like 0.00000000000000000000000001% of our fan base we are the best team just face it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Iamacoconut9 yeah man I think Norwich vs City next season will be an excellent game👌
@@Iamacoconut9 won eff all without cash being the deciding factor, trash club trash fans. hope you get expelled from the prem!
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Why wait for too long. It's killing the game. Why would a team refuse to give certain information and then wait for too long before action is taken against them?
Building a Sold case.
They didn't wait. They were building a case and City impeded them at every single inquiry and request.
because they don't think they are guilty
Because it's like volunteer finger prints. You don't have to hand them over, but if you don't you look more guilty. These cases take years for some reason. If this was in america it wouldn't even be completed this century
Remember the information was originally obtained through a hacker. So obviously it takes time for the Premier league to legally obtain the information and then build an airtight case
City will face zero punishment. People in charge just have to make it look like they care. This is how capitalism and greed works.
Facts
Capitalism is probably man's more beautiful and pure creation but yet we distort and manipulate it for our own benefit. Sometimes I feel we are not worthy of such things.
@@garythefishable It's certainly not man's more beautiful creation. From the very inception it's been a creation of tremendous violence, subjugation, corruption, environmental destruction and precarious, unstable expansion. The "ideal" form of it doesn't even make sense. If your goal is to make money, stay alive and on top as a firm and the mantra is "greed is good", why would you _ever_ play fair? How could you ever expect anything but the most ruthless and immoral of characters to quickly come to dominate it?
No successful capitalist in their right mind, from any period of time, would say "well competition is good so I shouldn't try to buy out upstarts or make the industry inaccessible and just lose marketshare. I shouldn't use these egregious piles of cash I have to bribe politicians and weaken regulations so I can make more money." The thing is, even if one person wants to be responsible, someone is guaranteed to come along who isn't and the ethical guy will lose out. That's why nobody can be ethical if they want to do well as a capitalist.
@@garythefishable Capitalism has these flaws built inherently into the system. This is why we need to move forward and try and remedy those flaws and not allow people to exploit these loopholes to benefit everyone
It's not capitalism, it's greed and corruption and if you don't know the history of clubs in communist countries, their leagues were corrupted to the point that winner was known before season start.
Everyone knew they were making a joke out of FFP but they did it for so long people accepted it. It would be good to see a proper punishment for clubs like this that can breach the rules 101 different times - a transfer ban + point deduction for this season + relegation.
Kaveh Solhekol always good at relaying all the information
Yes he speaks very well.
everton have money but cant spend it and have nearly been relegated over it. as an everton fan i wish we'd just broken the rules like city and became to big to truly punish.
You have a point.
utd fan here, its disgusting. Stolen titles from us and Liverpool
I don’t know, remember all these elite clubs tried breaking off and creating a super league, I’m glad to see us as a proper club even if we’ve been ran badly
@@scottturner2902 Your lot have nothing to talk about.
The only way to deal with this is by relagation, no point in giving them a fine
Fergie going to win another title 10 years after he retired. What a manager.
his 13 might all be stripped
@@grobarizawhy?
@@grobariza LMFAO 😂😂
@@grobariza get help
And gerrard could finally get his epl ynwa ❤️
Chelsea got a whole transfer ban for signing Bertrand Traore 😂 city are facing over the 100 breaches. Relegate them to league 2 at least.
How can they be "surprised" when they have made a habit of breaking the rules? Or do they mean they are surprised that they've been called out?
Surprised they got caught.
Ha
Hahaha
Surprised they've got charged! They've been paying their guy in the FA for nothing then
Absolute disgrace from the clubs management. Manchester is Red ❤
Imagine being investigated for breach of financial fair play rules, and signing grealish for £100m right in their faces.........
They were already profitable and sustainable financially when they signed Grealish for 100 million.
I think holland is worse. 70m plus addons for a player estimated over 150m. MC reaks corruption.
@@aryan.4855 You're a united fan and you're defending city
How much top team on the premier league receives fot TV right that the money bro stop acting like this top teams don't make millions
@@aryan.4855 there cheats end of
Relegation, stripped of titles and huge fines. They’ve cheated their way to success
Chill out nothings gonna happen. Probably just a fine
@@Itsme.officially nope has to be pont reduction
Be quiet!! Jealous fool!! Cannot strip them from the titles coz the other clubs weren’t good enough on the pitch!
Man City hasn’t done anything wrong they came one of the best clubs in the world but brought world class players in so what is the problem I don’t not get it like
Relegation or hefty points deduction
Liquidation. No one would miss them.
Then promote the top 3 in the championship automarically next season and have playoffs be 4th,5th,6th,7th.
I will be missing them because they are a best club I have ever seen
ur a manchester united fan who probably doesnt live in manchester, because theres no way the city could afford to lose such a product, eastlands would retreat back into a brownfield site, thousands of jobs lost
Yes they are they have won the league lest year have you forgot about that and no I disagree city hasn’t done anything wrong it just seems everyone are against city for becoming one of the best clubs in the world they made themselves the best team in the world and win trophies they have brought best players in so what is the problem like
"Liquidate man city" say the man with united chest as his pic. the pl has no power to liquidate a club :) Your comment is so ill-informed and ridicules it makes me laugh (im not a city fan fyi)
Are you sure you’re not being biased? Clown!!!
If they really have been dealing unfairly on this level then pretty much everybody should be pissed at them. Like every club (and their fans) who have been runners up in the years they won the league, and every club who missed out on a Champion's League spot, or a Europa League spot, or who got knocked out of a cup by them, etc.
And not only that, but there's also the fact that if they won by cheating then this means they also unfairly inflated their fanbase, which essentially gave them more "real" income, because winning teams will always pick up a lot of plastic fans who eventually become real fans.
And also everybody at City who _wasn't_ in-on-it should be pissed at the club, because their names will get dragged through the mud.
If they really are cooking the books as severely as it seems then they should get the book thrown at them, titles stripped, massive fines, and dropped completely from the league, to start again at the bottom.
Well explained, this is exactly what should happen! It's a complete disgrace to football
Imagine Haaland relegated to championship league
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He’ll score 10 goals per game 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You can't fine someone who has breach financial rules - clearly spending money isn't a worry for them so a fine is pointless
Everyone new they was cheating, but because it’s only city the news never jumped on them. They just did the same with the halland deal. Buyout 75m yet they got him for 54m. 100 charges tho is a disgrace
If they are not punished, why even have the rules.
Because due process is a thing? Because so far these are just allegations? Loads of allegations against Benjamin Mendy that didn't hold up in a court of law. You can have hundreds of allegations but thats all they are is allegations lolololol
@@TheRedBaron1917 its the premier league making these allegations Lmao, the owners of the league city are playing in. It was random people from the street accusing mendy.
@@TheRedBaron1917 “lololol 😢”
@@CrispRoblox Thats all it is, no proof no evidence just baseless allegations 😂😂😂
@@TheRedBaron1917 if it is investigated for two years trust me its not allegation, bye bye city and their twelve fans in the world
Liverpools 90+ point seasons are now the best collections of seasons in PL history. What an Era for Klopp. Completely cheated out of 3 Prem titles. This is an absolute disgrace for the league.
What about Chelsea, don’t tell me they’re not playing close to the lines.
Ikr
As an arsenal fan I would definitely not be opposed to a relegation
A win without man City would be a sweet EPL victory
They won’t get points deducted this season. If guilty they should be relegated to League 2 simply due to the length of time this has been going on.
Would you not rather beat them properly and then they get relegated? Otherwise many won't class it as a fair title.
@@Jon-hb6gx think point is it wasn't a fair race anyway ..
Come to think of it Liverpool fans will feel even sicker
@@imedi Totally agree! I'm a West Ham fan and it even makes me feel sick! But we are where we are now and City fans would always say "We could have won it if, if, if...". I'd rather they weren't able to do that. Looks like this will drag on for a while now anyway.
They DESERVE EVERYTHING THATS COMING TO THEM. Not just 1 case a 101 and thinking they can get away with it and winning prem titles it's disgusting really
@@StxrskyMCFC this isn’t about chelsea. They will get theirs. For now its the cheating rats city. No fans and massive revenue 😂😂 bang on.
@@StxrskyMCFC explain wht CFC has unlawfully done.
@@StxrskyMCFC please explain what Chelsea has done wrong
They’re not getting anything coming to them I hate to say it, they’ve got too much money, rich clubs don’t get charged
Chelsea obviously broke fair play rules. Their spending was a joke too. Not to mention: the origins of the money spent. Absolutely disgusting football entities.
Heavy Fines. Points deduction. Relegation by 2 leagues.
transfer ban for two years
As a rival fan I'll settle for a 3 year transfer ban and a major points deduction
🤣🤣🤣 yea because that's gonna happen epl ain't that stupid
@@MikeyJMJ City will come back and still whoop united's ass
@@MikeyJMJthey need to be relegated over this
surely it also an hmrc issue as fixing the books
soon on weekend football : Man city vs Lincoln !
Because they are a "big 6 team,minimal punishment,Premier League WON'T dare relegate them,points deduction will be not enough to make a difference,and financial punishment ,to owners who are worth billions,won't make a hole in their fortune.Look at Rangers,Juventus and Saracens ! Relegate them at the end of the season,void their title wins,and start them in the Championship on - 46,point per game. Won't happen though
@KURTIS KOBBY OCANSEY yep,don't support any of the top sides though !
Rangers went bust, not the same.
City are a big 6 team because of their financial backing not because of their fanbase. Everyone apart from City's owners and the 4 members of their supporter's club would cheer if City were relegated. 👍
Void titles 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Lets be honest its not just City that are doing those 100+ breaches is crazy, that just proves that FA cant keep up anymore. Lets make the rules more strict and more easy to be proven and enforced (but not made on size of the club), like for example salary cap (1mil pounds a week) and transfers cap (100 mil per windows).
then these clubs are no longer relevant continentally
Every other league has to implement a salary cap. If only one league does, then all the players leave to where the money is.
Then the money gets taken out if the clubs by shareholders. The high wages keep the money in the game. High level football is the only place where the 'employees' actually get paid well in comparison to the work they do for the success of the club, You'd need to find a way to limit money which could be taken out of the club by shareholders because if there is spare money they aren't going to reinvest it back into the club they are going to paid themselves a big dividend for just being a shareholder.
City are a tiny club before the cash they were a yoyo club biggest Cheaters going.
Let em spend whatever they want as long as it’s personal money, let the club run as it’s own entity
If QPR are fined 50 mil, Manchester City should be fined at least 1 billion.
If you think about all the teams that would need to be compensated for missing champions league football, it might be near those figures.
1 billion is pissing money for city. Relegation or atleast point deduction ontop of a fine and justice will be served
@@LushhN And titles won during that period stripped and awarded to 2nd place teams from those years. Otherwise the meaning and weight of winning the EPL title is tainted.
Pep's next move. PSG.
Highly doubt they’ll face any action 😂 Derby County’s breaches in the EFL were minuscule compared to these claims against Man City so would be surprised to see the outcome
Miniscule breaches and 21 points deducted - EFL is a joke
Relegate them to Vanorama National and impose a 9 year transfer ban. Relegating to Championship would not be punishment enough. Cheating is cheating, and this looks egregious.
Is this really worse than what Juve did in the 2000s?
You said relegate them to the nationals league and then said championship. Chose one mate
they will takethe Premier League to court and all hell will break loose if that happens Chelsea Man United might never recover because all titles will probably be stripped since 1992-93
@@zuesnastrio3062 he said championship would not be enough you helmet
Sorry mate none of the shite you spew holds any relevance with that profile picture, NEXT
To put it into perspective I think it's a total of 135-139 breaches 🤣🤯 that is 15 breaches a year on average in that period. Wow.
And if City manage to prove that even just a couple of them are false, and the Premier League are lying or fabricating things, this whole case could collapse in a second ....
Arsenal: We lost to Everton to complete the ritual
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Pep Guardiola can now become arteta assistance.....we need Man like him....
how about now haha
I think you need a lot more than that
So basically what he's saying will happen next is that six individuals who weren't that rich are about to become very rich and City will be free to continue buying trophies with oil money.
Seriously. The FA need put that pool of individuals that may be selected into protective custody immediately otherwise that's exactly what's going to happen.
@@DecathlonGamer yup, protect them from becoming multi millionaires lol
Juve have just had something similar and they've been handed a 15 point deduction.
Yep, suspect City should have the same leveled against them.
15 points is nothing should be more like 30
Juve didn't have 115 charges
If they don't dock them points in ALL the seasons they cheated then there are no consequences.
Exactly. Docking points in the season where they actually balanced the books isn't right. It should be in the seasons they actually cheated. I say go back dock 15 points on each season then whoever comes out on top won the league or made the champions league. Champions league teams that would have made it need to be compensated.
Yep pull a juventus to them
They shuld take way 10-15 points from every sesion they played in prem from 2009
They should rescind their titles in the years they cheated.
@@joebarnes100 tbh I don’t think that these runners up will be crowned champions but the seasons will be counted as void
1) Take the titles in these periods from City & give the titles to the teams immediately behind them - Man United, Liverpool & Man United.
2) Give them a heavy cash fine.
don't forget a point deduction on this season...yes i'm a gooner
That won't effect them they should he relegated
Unfortunately it does not work like that
You play for titles you don’t win them this way. You sound like a United fan. Been starved for long.
Lols. You sound like a City fan.
If proven guilty, they cant strip them of titles, what they can do is strip them of as minimum of 30points, strip them from the Champions league, place an embargo for transfers for at least 2years and pay a fine.
That way no other team would try such
I don't know about the punishment but I think the trophies must not stand, City and Pep came and destroyed our beautiful league
Financial penatlies won't hurt City unless it's an unpressidented amount, circa £200mil for instance. The only thing that will punish them is no UCL for 2/3 seasons, similar punishment that happened in Italy, points dectuction and relegation.
What would be the point in fining a club who cheats the financial system? The only suitable punishment is to remove their league titles.
titles stripped for juventus
If Pep is a man of his word he will leave and that will be a big punishment in its own right
Come onnn pep knew!
Hehe keep crying
will have to wait and see if they are found guilty first
Why? He’s a dodgy junkie.
@@mrDavidD902 100+ charges. You've gotta be deluded to think a lot of them aren't true.
Could be found totally innocent of 100+ offences .....100!!!!!!!!!
After about half a billion has exchanged hands into someone's bank account in Zurich.
City should be sent down a few leagues, fined severely and their owners forced to sell up in order to send a message that people treating football clubs like playthings and abusing fans and the general public through extortion for decades will be dealt with.
And pigs could fly!
Its possible to be found innocent, because some of the offences may fall away due to others being cleared
Send them to the national League. Absolutely disgusting behaviour from a club that couldn't even win the champions League after spending ridiculous amounts of money
Garth Crooks,Marcus Bent,Stefan Kuntz - three of my all time favourite players !
Crooks, Bent and Kuntz, sounds like a law firm.
@@SirAntoniousBlock good one,that's better than mine !
@@simonhodgett7790 👍
Another reason why these guys wanted the Super League.
And this will now hasten the formation of the super league. The PL will revert to being a fight between Liverpool and ManU, and no one will care because all the best players will be in the super league.
1st club to back out of super league 😂
@@daleviker5884 the super league would not be a sport. It would be a spectacle. A performance only meant to entertain. It would not be competion, just pageantry.
The lack of City fans in the comments kinda proves everything true. The $$$/fans doesn't add up
Plss try and keep quiet 🤫
we’re just laughing at how much everyone hates us because of how good we are😂
The only city fans you see in the comments are paid actors
@@RK12398 have you seen their squad?
@@stewzs9269 not everyone’s hating you stopped the scousers winning the league 👍
If they are guilty of all charges there isn't a punishment harsh enough to serve justice. Because they'll have likely robbed titles and fan experiences from numerous other clubs.
I prefer this punishment coz the feeling of winning those titles will forever remain with us
@@ameto6864 loser mentality, take the L
@@ameto6864it wouldn't bother you that you'd cheated to get them? And cheated others out of rightfully winning? I'm really starting to see the City fan base in a different light these past 2 days. None of you seem to be bothered that you might have cheated. You just want glory. Its despicable. I don't think fans should be punished for the owners mistakes but when it comes to city fans... I think you deserve it.
Wrexham vs city next year gonna be crazy
Excellent
101 breaches, 101 punishments. No other way.
115 actually.
They will pay top lawyers to get them off again, money talks😢
I told my 7 year son he's a United fan he could not contain his laughter which made me burst out laughing
poor lad. been brought up to support a club filled to the brim with tourists😂 i bet he cant wait for a tour of old trafford for his next birthday, hope hes ready for the 3 hour journey 😂
@@stewzs9269 You say that as a City fan. The shame of you.
If I was you , I would be quiet. Pogba's transfer to Man U is also part of the Pinto Papers
@@MicDubTV a city fan from manchester. oh the shame of me
@@MicDubTV season ticket holder for 90% of my life. the shame of me
Great news for Leeds at this moment. Pep said he would leave if the club lied to him, just in time to walk into Elland road. We will be above Liverpool by the end of the season!
More chance of getting Nobby the sheep
Haaland will be itching to play for his boyhood club!
@@rynabuns Leeds honestly don't need Haaland as they already have Bamford but they could certainly benefit from Pep's leadership.
@@rynabuns I can see it! Top 4 next season with Pep and Haaland taking De Bruyne with them
@@garythefishable is this a troll comment? Bamford over Haaland.
Fairest punishment if found guilty is to lose stuff the won retrospectively but probably the least likely to happen.
that really doesnt mean anything really. the moments already happened to people and you wont reward other teams the silverware that shouldve been won. fairest punishment, for a club with city's financials, is relegation. It probably wont happen and they will just be deducted a huge amount of points. but if you want to send a message that you wont tolerate this, relegation does that
That would be the only time your team can have a title. Surely your teams can’t achieve it just by playing beautiful football like ManCity.
@@Jgarthebeast True enough the moment has passed but I would award the second place team the title as would be done if an Olympic gold medalist is later disqualified. It shouldn't stand that a team that is later found to have cheated to obtain something should be let keep it. Nothing can be done about the moment of celebration being lost. Relegation would be one season. There are many Olympic sprinters who would accept a lifetime ban to win a gold medal. Thank God they didn't win the Champions League.
I said many years ago if any team beats man city to the league or any other trophy it would be a win for football, I didnt know how right i was.
If they don’t punish them severely. Then it’s a shame to the EPL and UEFA!!!😮
PL reputation will be damaged
Give utd and Liverpool their titles
And stoke lol
Why is that only way Liverpool and united can win titles theses days 🤣
@@user-do4gb3jd5f Liverpool literally won 2 cups last season 🤡
@@Harveygregorxotwod What do you mean "giving Manchester City trophies to weak clubs"? The same thing also applies to:
1.Sunderland (2014 EFL Cup).
2.Watford (2019 FA Cup).
3.Aston Villa (2020 EFL Cup).
i want this punishment to the next year, just to don't hear any trash talk "Arsenal only won because City lost points"
If this is proven to be such a long term pattern a behavior, I would put Man City in League One next year.
With Arsenal being 5 points ahead with a game in hand, their fans can make a valid argument they were going to win it regardless
@@StuTheDon17 but they haven't played City once in the Prem
They could be forced to watch Liverpool play for the remainder of the season, which as a City fan is more than I could bare
Very funny and I'm a Red fair play mate n true
Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. TEN HAG'S (Ole 4.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!
"Eras come to an end"
They mustn't deduct their point ...Arsenal fan here ...we need fair win 🏆
At least somebody has a bit of common sense, much respect to you got that.
it wont be this season. UTD will finish above you anyway lol
@@TheRedBaron1917 pure bias lmao, so there just shouldn't be any consequences? regulations are useless if they're not enforced, and we all know a fine does nothing
It doesn’t matter you will bottle it anyway
agree points deduction and fines wouldn't be enough. league expulsion and titles stripped is the only just repercussion
Grealish in league 2 will finally justify his 100mill move
Anoda fool in the houe
@@destinydavid3969 Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. TEN HAG'S (Ole 4.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!
Argh, I would hate it if it’s true . I feel betrayed as a football fan. All these years of Man City ruling premier league would be such a shame for football
They’re destroyed the reputation of our league, ruined a lot of clubs seasons and cost clubs big money from qualifying for champions league places, winning domestic cups and winning league titles, they should be held responsible for everything they’ve done and made to start again from the very bottom of the pyramid.
😂 And you actually have only realised it now?
This looks worse on the leagues than city considering the time frame they’re looking at. Violations from 2009-18! Any punishment is simply a precedent for other clubs. Such a joke, but still really curious what’ll happen
I can imagine that City will be facing several years worth of Transfer embargo, a very hefty fine and a points deduction for the beginning of season 23/24.
City need to be riddled off to national league.
They would get past this with ease thats how corrupt the system is.
Every punishment possible. Then it would give other clubs what will come to them if or when they do it. Like Chelsea and PSG
100 breaches 100 point deduction = relegation
It's the only way to keep Pepe as manager, he only wins titles with plenty of money to buy top players,would like to see him at a club with not a lot of finance see how good he really is.
AGUERR.. NOOOOOOO
As a Liverpool supporter I’d take a posthumous league title or two. Anything positive at this point 😅
That’s a really sad way to win a league title
give Stevie his 13/14 medal, get him in full Liverpool kit and he can lift the trophy at the end of the season even though we'll finish 13th👍🏾
@@H0ldThat and the game of "can scousers get any more pathetic?" rumbles on
It’s not ideal, but any positive at this point. I was mostly joking
@@H0ldThat honestly we could still use him this season lol
Now City fans are gonna attack Chelsea
I am sorry Chelsea might be overspending for players but we don’t fiddle with the books (lie about revenues) 😂
We all should have seen this coming when City had bigger revenues than Madrid United Barca 😂 with their 50 fans can’t fill up their own stadium 😂 (Aka Emptyhad)
I am pretty sure those 50 fans will be disappointed
man over 100 Violations
Original 👋👋👋👋
There’s no other way to put it, it’s just not fair. Either relegation or docked points for all seasons and titles withdrawn are the only justifiable punishments. What is the point in the rules otherwise
Few of the worst-case scenarios mentioned here actually happened in Serie A, although it was a matter involving corrupted referees: Juventus was relegated in 2006. This season, due to financial breaches, Juventus has been deducted 15 points, which is something could happened to Man City.
That's not enough
Is my man wearing a Pokemon tie to report the downfall of a massive Premier League team? I fuckin' hope so 😂😂😂😂
Imagine if Man City are stripped of their titles and Brendan Rodgers and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer become Premier League winning managers
lol thats all it is imagination and make believe 😂😂😂
It dosnt go down to second place it's just a void season in regards to champions
wont happen, EPL will not retroactively change results, thats a can of worms that will never end once opened
It won't happen, but if it did, why would you want old trophies that were never held by the at the time players? Pointless.
@@TheRedBaron1917 Like City's Books?
They'll get away with every single one of those charges, but at least we all know what they're really about
If Manchester City were to be found guilty I think a 10 year ban from representing England in U.E.F.A competition would be appropriate punishment. A point deduction for this season would be a joke. Giving out titles retrospectively don’t sit well with me. Those teams have already been denied the opportunity to enjoy the thrill and experience of celebrating in front of their fans. It’s won’t be the same feeling been given titles years later.
Oh, I don't know, I'm pretty sure supporters at the clubs City cheated out of titles would still hold monster parades in celebration.
Jose Morinho has now won 4 premierships - Za result was 4-nil but also mean 4 premierships. I won more premierships alone than Man City. Respecttt! 😇
All true footy fans including City fans would agree that they have bought the PL championship for the last umpteen years and it was just a matter of time before they were pegged up on it. Now we will see if Pep is true to HIS word and walks away from them. Actually I would suggest if anything Pep must have known what was going on, if he did he should be brought to task with the club.
All clubs buy the PL from Chelsea and so on
It is not Guardiola's job to manage the details of the revenue and budget.
I disagree with removing trophies, the players still earned them. However, banning them from playing in European football for a number of years as well as transfer bans would be suitable in my eyes.
Totally agree, not the players fault. Felt sorry for the Juve players too. Unfortunatley when you dominate football you're going to get haters
@@skrrttz Haters? Seriously? This is about justice! Man City are nothing before 2008. They cheated and everyone knows.
@@lifeinslo-mo595 im not a city fan. And yes they did, we was talking about the players, its not there fault. Plus you are the type of person to say city cheated yet turn a blind eye to Liverpool.
@@skrrttz Ofcourse it's not the players fault. What has Liverpool done? Don't compare a historic to a cheating fake oil club
Still cheating...
Very mealy mouthed from Kaveh Solhekol. Also, 0:40 "Here's a breakdown of EXACTLY what City are accused of. It's more than 100 breaches of....."! How is "more than 100" "exact"? And Man City react with the universal, palms-to-the sky, "I didn't do what I just did" gesture.
The club that has been so dominant, so far beyond everyone else, breaking the rules to do it. Shocking...
Tought and prayers for people in Turkey. From Chelsea FC all around the world 💙💙😇😇🤲🤲
They make Juventus look like saints