How the British press have reacted to the Premier League charges against Manchester City
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The Daily Mirror’s John Cross & The Times’ Charlotte Duncker review tomorrow's papers and discuss the Premier League charges against Manchester City for alleged breaches of financial rules.
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Notice the media can't even get it right, uefa found them guilty. The only reason they got off was due to the statute of limitations on the charges. They got off on a technicality.
UEFA are crooked, you know you have time limitation in your rules,why you UEFA didn't you start early,or make an emergency extension as not executing proper punishment will cast doubt on your integrity and footballs image world wide,I smelled a rotten fishes back then and I sincerely hope will not smell in EPL FA investigation.
This is what I was going to say and they still got a €10,000,000 fine
if man city got the evidence to give against these breaches they would give but dont
This is about nothing less than the integrity of the Premier league, if the FA allow this to go unpunished then it calls the entirety of British football into disrepute and will mean its open season for any and all teams to cheat their way to success in the future
Thing is, if City ARE kicked out of the EPL isn't that just further incentive for them to re-ignite the super league concept?
@@ClockworkGrouse as long as it's not in the EPL I don't care what they ignite, hopefully themselves first
I completely agree. I was annoyed that Chelsea worked that loop hole, and that was legal.
And now this...
IF the Prem isn't transparent about the whole process and if there is irrefutable evidence and they don't apply the appropriate punishment there will be a massive blowback.
This is big for the PL. Confident City statement doesn’t bode well for Alison and co. If they fail any lawsuit brought by City could potentially bankrupt the whole organisation.
This will lead to the creation of the European Super League. Liverpool, Spurs, and Arsenal will almost certainly leave. What's the point of staying?
6:08 city were not exonerated in their fight with UEFA. They got off on a technicality due to the number of years that had passed since the fraud occurred. They were fined, so they were ultimately proven guilty of some fraud in the past.
There was no proof of wrongdoing before the time barring period either. Just the usual finger wagging.
Question,why does Uefa or others have time,if not for crooked purposes, Uefa official have been found guilty in the past, again investigate them again, and England FA beware you don't punish Man city, you lose credibility in the eyes of footballing world.for years now fans all over the world know this, and only man city and their fans say it's a surprise and it's envy towards the club.phatetic !
Wrong. Stop making noise
Not true they were found guilty of being difficult with the preceding and nothing more
@@Supersleuth42 there is actually a whole paper trail of evidence that players and managers where getting overpaid from different companies belonging to city's owners,,its been common knowledge for years..the only reason city managed to walk away was because their was a statute of limitations technicality to make those charges unenforceable...they dragged there feet and stalled (which makes it worse)... really the EPL should lift those time limitations because that's what has allowed all this to continue...
It's really not rocket science, when it first happened they were fined 10m. But why fine them if they weren't guilty of anything lol. Treating us like we are stupid. Obviously there is some truth to this so punish them and let's move on.
The first time they got off on the technicality that the breaches they were found guilty of were over 5 years ago. The £10 million fine was because they refused to cooperate in the investigation and stalled it to the point that the charges were too long ago to press
They were never found “innocent” in the UEFA case. CAS threw out the charges because they were time barred. No other reason
@Man City to put it simply, Manchester City cheated their way to all their success, and now they’re being punished
@Man City bro picked the most irrelevant part of the argument.
@@mayeezy254 😂😂
The lawyers are salivating, it will be a huge payday for them!
An appropriate name should be given to these (lawless) sorry I mean lawyers, " lawlessness lawyers without boundaries" or in abbreviations "l,l,w,b.
if man city got the evidence to give against these breaches they would give but dont
Can’t wait for gabby agbmonglahor’s take on all this once he’s put his colouring book down
It is down, he eats his crayons.
He will probably blame Antony for it.
@@beakyturf6336or Casimiro. Or both.
😂
He'll blame Klopp
Just relegate them to league 2 with transfer embargo for 9 windows. Sends a message to all other clubs.
Bit far
@@epicboim7440 Nope, if guilty, the sheer scale of these rule breaks deserve the harshest of responses and indictments
@@HughJaxident67 half the things we were accused for were not cooperating which can’t be more then a fine and let’s be honest city will pay people and get away with it and I will not complain
@@HughJaxident67 half the things we were accused for were not cooperating which can’t be more then a fine and let’s be honest city will pay people and get away with it and I will not complain
@@epicboim7440 The fact City failed to cooperate was a divisive measure to deliberately slow down the investigation so some of the core charges would 'time out' which is precisely what happened. City were guilty of breaking FFP regulations but were saved by a timing technicality.
They cannot appeal to CAS this time around, only to the FA's appeal adjudicator, so if they are found guilty, they will receive a serious indictment and rightly so.
Newcastle will be watching this very closely, if nothing is done then that's the green light
All 12 city fans lining up rn at the Newcastle merch shop
True. Qatar loves to use their money to purchase things that shouldn't be for sale.
Our owners been smart about it but yeah, this is definitely an eye opener especially for the future 😅 it changes everything
@@mattpryokra2245 I agree even with all that money they have at there disposal Newcastle have been smart and stuck to ffp so far.
@@dbz9393 haha...so fast they were thinking to change their club already..good one mate
It isn't through jealousy and envy when peaople and fans of other clubs have believed cheating and breaches of FFP have been taking place for over a decade.
It's more disgust that City seemed to be getting away with it for so long.
@@DC-zi6se ur projecting. ur not inside the minds of the public, just ur own.
Where’s your proof??? You sound like a trump supporter that cries about voter fraud which never happened. You need to stop listening to conspiracy theorists and get a life
@@DC-zi6se When someone steals from you, the emotion is anger not envy!!!
Because authorities want to accumulate over 100 charges and finish City's existence with one blow, all of City's titles will be rescinded anyway which means they will be left with zero titles even with all these fraudulent money spent.
@@fulty6305 City has a smaller UK fanbase then spurs hence City wont get any sympathy!
Now we can see why Roman Abramovich was so insistent that Chelsea complied with FFP.
Yet he was the big bad wolf
@@juciyjcurtis7938 Only to the envious.
if man city got the evidence to give against these breaches they would give but dont
Deserve a bigger points deduction than Derby county/ Swindon. Otherwise it's corruption
Why do so many people (the guy from the Mirror being the one on this occasion) keep saying that Man City proved their innocence against the UEFA? They didn't. They just managed to get the punishment reduced down to the (meaningless) fine, which then got reduced even further later on.
Because there was no factual evidence of wrongdoing provided by the accuser.
@@Supersleuth42 No, it became moot as it was outside the 5 year statute of limitations for the UEFA rules. They were guilty, but couldn't be booted out on the technicality that no one spotted it in time.
@@Supersleuth42 They weren't cleared of anything. They got out because of technicality.
@singing the blues. Are you one of these complete idiots who believes that Man City actually generated more revenue than man Utd, Liverpool, Real Madrid etc?!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Supersleuth42 You're daft, they were found guilty, but got off on a stupid CAS technicality that meant as it was older than 5 years, they couldn't be punished for it.
So if this case drags on City could potentially pick up a few more titles in that time. Sort it out ASAP! One of the reasons it’s taken so long was because City haven’t cooperated and have been dragging their heels.
But surely if you've nothing to hide,you'd cooperate?
@@juliarichards8366 Precisely! They should be punished for failing to cooperate too. We all know that they're dodgy.
why did it take PL so long to sanction?Is that how law works in the UK.100+ financial breaches😱
@@josiahflame7477 well it partly took them so long because Manchester City refused to play ball.
Or alternatively, the PL haven’t been able to substantiate any of their claims of wrongdoing?
Haalands first city trophy could be the championship trophy
Like youre avatar.
How about Haaland get League 2 Title?
if you think that any of their current players will drop down to the lower leagues and take a 90% pay cut just for fun then you need a clue.
Well apart from the golden boot 😅
All club scared to city haha
This will drag on and on. Distracting the masses from the real issues in society
Exactly...
No it won’t. They’ve compiled enough evidence over 4 years and was able to jump off of UEFAs investigation. They’re not going to let it drag on, isn’t it obvious…
found the city fan, you bought your newcastle jersey yet?
Nothing more damning than dodgy money trying to change a culture of a country.
So much hate on a British media shows you that it was a politically motivated action.
115 breaches isn't English football history, it's footballs worst scandal yet. Makes Italian football look like a picnic
In Italy, they actually hand out sanctions. Juventus most successful Serie A club, demoted to Serie B, docked points. Parma, relegated to Serie D for unpaid wages. Meanwhile all the English ever do is talk, set up investigations, talk some more, organise a smokescreen (with a nice name such as "independent commission") and then decide to go to the pub for a drink without taking any further action.
Exactly my point mate. Well said
The bloke reporter pretending its not blatantly obvious what's been happening at city for the last 15/16 years
Don't be surprised if the Super League is back in the news after this
That was one of my thoughts too.
I could imagine City being punished would be a nice catalyst to use their money to get that up and running again.
@@Astro_Gorilla Nobody is going to join man city......man city have no clout LOL you're small
@@RS__7 money talks and the Real still want this. I bet Barca would follow and then it is a matter of time.
Too many kids don't care about football as a sport anyway, they care about individual superstars.
There is a huge global market for it and the game is getting away from true fans all the time.
@@Astro_Gorilla Juventus , Ac Milan , Inter , Real , Barca , Atletico are still in it.
@@Karl_Grant246 I knew there was a few but Real was the only one i could remember
guardiola is a genius when he has the best players in the league on his squad. to be honest i could win the league with his squad
I can see the likes of KDB and Haaland listening to your in depth tactical knowledge. “This is our new head coach” Ok, so he doesn’t have his badges but he watches football on the telly.
Guardiola is a genius regardless and no you couldn't. Give credit where credit's due. Without Pep, even if City had spent 1 Trillion they wouldn't be where they are at.
Exactly. Good manager but yet to see him take a side from nothing, little money and doing something remarkable.
Fergie, Klopp, Wenger, Mourinho, Clough, Ramsey, Shankly, Busby - I could list another 50 managers whom I regard far better than Pep.
You can't deny his style but let's see him do it on a shoe string. A hell of a lucky guy to walk into a Barca sidewith the greatest player (maybe midfield) of all time to inflate his trophy haul.
If you tell me Pep could do the same job ETH has at UTD, il ask you to give me the name of dealer.
Until he does, the trophies are irrelevant.
Bayern backroom staff pushed to get rid. They do not hold him in high regard.
@@randypanthegoatboy2 Ten Hag learned a lot from Guardiola at Bayern Munich. I have no doubt that Guardiola could do a similar job at United as Ten Hag.
@Singin’ The Blues you missed the point. When has Pep taken a smaller side, with limited money to a major final? Or won a major league? Never.
Apparently there are at least 2 other clubs in the PL who are currently under investigation for financial irregularities? And another one for potentially making hidden transfer payments. Who signed Paul Pogba from Juventus again?
haha good luck Man united have always been above board - they spend only money that they earn - that has been proven for the last 2 decades .
Making one or two financial irregularities is one thing but to do it for several seasons and then hide it.
United will never fall under that they get 75,000 every home game plus shirt sales Ronaldo coming back made them millions enough to buy 10 Pogba's
Nothing will happen. It's disgusting.
The only reason that man City 'won' against UEFA was because they strung it out and strung it out so that it went out of time. That stopped the ban for 2 years that was initially imposed by UEFA - problem this time is that there are no time limitations for cases to be brought under the Premier League rules.
No time limits they are fuckd this time round
City won nothing with UEFA all they did was avoid punishment.
if man city got the evidence to give against these breaches they would give but dont
"The Club welcomes the review of this matter by an independent Commission, to impartially consider the comprehensive body of irrefutable evidence that exists in support of its position" - Man City
Damn... I need some of that confidence in my life... 😆
More delaying tactics.
@@randypanthegoatboy2 NOTHING will happen and everyone will move on... Mark my words 🤣
@@randypanthegoatboy2 can only be one reason for that I guess hey.
That's because their lawyers will get them off with the charge!!! 😳🥺🤒
Bro you started supporting city 4 years ago. Relax, you’re going to start supporting New Castle soon as city is relegated and they have to hand their trophies to United and Liverpool. Pathetic fan base
Why would Newcastle be worried? We're not spending like Chelsea, Man U, City or Liverpool. What's going to happen to Chelsea and Man U?
You have to love news outlets that are ‘impartial’ then come out with headlines that say “boot em out”
The british media will never cease to amaze, I really hope those journalists go nowhere in their career
What's wrong with the headline? That is being impartial. When someone commits a crime, you call for them to be done. When a football club cheats and has 100 alleged breaches of ffp, why shouldn't this be the headline? It's completely fair.
Unlike televsion news, newspapers don't have to be impartial in the UK.
British media are the biggest scoundrels on planet earth sometimes...
The fact you think the Scum is impartial lmao.
if man city got the evidence to give against these breaches they would give but dont
City aren't surprised, they've been to the high court already and lost trying to quell this case. This is going to an independent panel. Not a court. We shouldn't have to wait ages. Get it sorted.
Will the PL apply the same rigor and focus to all the other clubs? Seems that 115 charges is a lot of focus under the microscope, but have the checked other clubs to the same standards?
Man city “won” on a technicality with CAS, due to time lapse before the case got there.
They did not win anything they just were not punished. That is a difference.
Yeah , a lot different than with the similar charges for Chelsea FFP conviction a couple of years ago .
andykyriakides2144 You need to get your facts right feller. Chelsea have NEVER had any charges relating to FFP. The transfer ban Chelsea received a few years ago was in relation to breaching rules concerned with the signing of a young player before he was old enough. It had absolutely nothing to do with the breaking of any FFP rules.
They've been doing it for years! They must be booted out of the league and stripped of the titles they have won while they have been cheating the game!
Why is John Cross mentioning the CAS decision but not pointing out that they were not exonerated, the case was dismissed because of a statute of limitations issue?
If there is no factual evidence of wrongdoing there is no need for any kind of formal exoneration.
Who’s this guy on the left? They didn’t win the last time, they got off on a technicality
Probably should just use a salary cap that everyone has to abide by. That should help avoids problems like this and at Juve (along with pretty much every other club)
Many things can be done.
1. Limit squad size
2. Salary cap
Even the cost of signing players. Clubs be like my player is worth 150m yet you finish in the bottom half
Why a salary cap?
Certain clubs have earned the right through the generations to pay players what they are capable of paying.
What if there is a salary cap and then certain clubs start trying to find ways to cheat that?
Why is Newcastle always mentioned
They can't appeal it. The independent investigators ruling is final. Whether the PL have the balls go through with full punishment is another matter.
While I hope they get the axe, this is definitively false. Should EITHER side appeal the independent commissions decision, another independent commission is empaneled to hear the appeal.
Yes they can they can ask for a new independent panel after decision for an appeal
This will drag on for another year, but this time round the premier league ha e City firmly by the throat!
@@mymemories925 I was thinking about that.
Really it’s up to the premier league how long it drags out. The investigation is complete now. It will take as long as it take the prem to choose three judges and have a hearing. And then the ruling will come out. And the expected appeal, which will be another panel of judges chosen by the premier league. And then those findings. And then it’s final.
Ligue 1 and PSG taking notes.
Pep at Newcastle will be a problem 😓😓
Man city's days are numbered
Just like liverpools 🥶
As is klopps
50k In championship let's go, funny how everyone hates us for having money, but want us to pay fines to help your club, double standards
you're midtable lil bro
Man city fans defend cheating. Absolutely no morals. Throw the book at them and bring in criminal charges for defrauding the country..
If they lose points in title winning seasons dose that mean if the runners up jump above them in those seasons they will receive those titles?
Yes
Bruh... 🤣, I don't think that's happening 😅. What about the players who played for City? I understand the business is shady, but the players 💯 have earned it.
Probably but who would celebrate if it was 5 years ago or last year. Pretty hollow victory. Future punishment better
@@kingkenny7393 Absolutely
Possibly. But because of how long ago they were they'll probably go unawarded if this were the case.
City is in serious dilemma right now, this time around the can't escape punishment though they always end being lenient instead of ruthless punishment
Nothing will happen just like nothing happened to the teams that were going to the super league
Can’t wait to play Accrington Stanley ....come on City ❤
The PL wont be seen the same after this. It will be the biggest embarrassment ever known.
I've been saying for years that the most dodgy thing about city is their sponsorship, its a company partially owned by their owners, they can pump as much revenue as they like to make their books look clean. It's like chelsea being sponsored by clearlake capital Bank.
Or Newcastle with sports direct or Man United with Aon who the glazers owned at the time.. Its allowed and the amount of sponsorship is decided by either the FA or the Premier League I think... Its more than just than. Its about how sponsors were paying wages like the Manchini thing.. 100 charges lol.. They gotta have loads of dirt on them
@@squirrel7t7 Newcastle didn't get much from sports direct lol
Maybe rules should be changed then to not allow sponsors from company's partly owned by owners?
He either ain’t got a clue or he’s a liar. Man City lots the UEFA case at every turn. They just dragged it out for years until they couldn’t be punished for their actions. And it seems like they tried to do the same here by not cooperating for 4 years.
City will probably just ask Red Bull Racing for some advice of how to get away with it, I presume as a Liverpool and Lewis Hamilton fan from 🇫🇮 Finland... 🙄
Don’t celebrate your club could be next.
man city will probably get away with it , but I'm hoping for a point deduction or possibly relegation(but is really unlikely)
shoot for the moon dude :D
i'm here hoping they go down, get stripped of titles and pep and their mercs all walk away :D
I just want them banned tbh, the prem is better without slavecity in its ranks
I really hope they get relegated to League 2 or League to guarantee their punishment for the next 2-3 years may not make it back to the Premier League.
I don't know how the Premier League would handle the title strips. It would be mad!
Not if it includes anything that involves the taxman!
Not if your name is Graham potter
Well, if they did do wrong, all city need to do is offer 1% discount on the oil and gas deals with the UK government who will in turn make sure city come out unscathed from this because the running of the country is more important than football
surely this cannot go unpunished
What are they guilty of exactly?
Oh dear.....RIP Manchester Cheaty FC (East 2008).
Oil city are doomed
@@Tony.L9793 goodbye slavecity may they rest in oil
If found guilty throw the book at them.
Trouble is they’re all at it aren’t they? So whatever they do to city will set a precedent for the others - could get messy because there must be 20 clubs in Europe on a similar position - some very close to home!
Not so many in Europe...
Me thinks the Bundesliga and La Liga will be quite happy and ready with the "I told you so's".
A lot of EPL fan boys will soon be laughing out of the other side of their mouth at "Eufalona".
I can name a few lol
Not over the course of 15 years, not using off the book payment methods like City.
@@oldskoolmusicnostalgia
Time is not the issue, my son.
In fact, quite the opposite: Chelski has not made enough money legitimately over 15 years to spend what they have over this Xmas alone much less the last 3.
The fellow white folk that run the EPL might want to turn a blind eye to Chelski's case,
but the Saudis that run Chitty are unlikely to take their medicine like good Palestinians.
The Times correspondent does not appear to reflect the Times readership, judging by the comments under their articles on this topic today. 90% of the posters have rushed to judgement on the basis of nothing more than allegations at this stage. No question about a fair trial or indeed that City might not be guilty as is illustrated by the overturning of the 2020 UEFA allegations by CAS.
This will be the catalyst for the next push for a european super league
Was waiting for this comment. The push will require the FA not to charge City so the big 6 will kick up a fuss and form ESL.
@@ThreeNeedles Thought the same. Definately a possibility.
New super league is talksports latest headline wkfest
@@adamsky77 The timing is hilarious
@@ThreeNeedles not like we needed a crystal football to see it coming - those super people are always lurking in the shadows - like ninjas
Normally, if there is smoke there is fire.
Good time for guardiola to take up a new challenge n manage a team that doesn't have overpowering financial muscle
Lol never going to happen. Pep would end up at Newcastle
@@tryingmybest9819 Chelsea 😂
@@mktreo not impossible but I feel like Newcastle would be more likely since he's used to oil money. Don't see Americans being in it for the long haul
No one has been up to the challenge of CITY on the pitch for the last decade … it is a witch hunt!
That's the point though they wasn't the biggest club before all this That's why they've been so successful basically cheating
They are still a smaller club than Chelsea! Us brits are well aware of that!
Will they take an interest in Chelsea dealings ? Once they have dealt with City, this will take years once their smart and very well paid lawyers get stuck in to it, headlines getting ahead of the reality. City will circle the wagons on this
You people are so stupid let me explain too dumb people who don't understand. When Roman left he made Chelsea 1.5 billion debt free so owners have every right to invest in a new company. FFP COVID UK government all most out them out of business because fans couldn't buy anything club had no money. FFP rules that's been used for such a long by other clubs, TODD USA baseball accountants team looked into how they can spend money they come up with long term transfer policy contract so owners can invest in the club so they haven't broken any rules just being very smart with business moves. Law doesn't says after you buy a new business you can't invest in a new company. The rules are changing next season so Chelsea did there business in 2 windows and they'll have to come up with there new transfer policy to keep spending while they adapt to the new rules. Our owners can spend another 300 million with no issues, So please stop crying about Chelsea transfer. In the other hand man city been cheating and hiding everything! 1000% guilty what they've done ✅
@@bluestarfc7370 Chelsea fans getting a tad salty about the whole thing, calm down me thinks you protest to much, did you not think that spending just over 500m in 2 windows would not raise a few eyebrows and questions ?. It was bound to happen, City will drag this out for years, Chelsea have far more pressing concerns with there present league position, do yourself a favour don't call people stupid. Never complain, Never Explain, silence is probably golden on this subject
We are under the 150 million Mark. Again we done nothing wrong all we did was find a loop hole now all their doing is closing it.
@@davidhoward5392
2 windows is not the problem. Doing it for several seasons and lying to investigators is a different matter.
Chelsea is a wait and see. Chelsea think they will comply with spending rules by amortising the transfer fees over 8 year contracts (5 years FIFA limit plus 3 year option). This will be limited to 5 years amortisation from summer 2023. Chelsea have to sell to re-balance the books (it will be a buyer's market, nobody will overpay Chelsea). Whether Chelsea qualify for the Champions League 2023/2024 revenue will matter. Nobody else has done it as most clubs do not want to financially commit to 8 year player contracts
If the club has been charged then there is a belief that there is a case to answer. Why is there need for another commision to investigate, this is espeially pertinent if there is a statute of limitations hanging over the charges. Present the charges to the club then allow them to come back with there version of the case and then rule. The fact that they have been charged with not cooperating is telling too, it is either they have something to hide or relying on the statute of liitations to take effect.
Not surprising really, its been happening for awhile, how else to you think they have won leagues and brought world class players out of nowhere?
When there is this much “smoke” there is, at least, a little but probably large, “fire”!
Everybody said this about Johnny Depp
Everybody said this about Johnny Depp
It's taken 4yrs? Two of which were during the covid pandemic!
Yes they have the best lawyers in the world
@@reeseprince8 or the government is cracking down on the PL
Idk if you know but pretty much all court proceedings ground to a halt during the pandemic
The unfortunate thing is while this sort of conduct cannot be permitted if true, it's also evident that spending mounds of legitimate monies on players doesn't guarantee success. City have been quite remarkable in recent years
They've spent £1.2Bn since 2009. Easy to cut back on spending when you've got the bulk of what you need
Relegation would be a one off punishment. They would go into Championship, have undefeated season and come straight back. If they were found guilty of serious preaches exclude them from EPL for 5 years and only allow them back if they win promotion after that period and their accounts are fully audited.
What is that bloke even on about? City won last time on a technicality.
Looks like not only Brighton is getting raided this summer
Irrefutable evidence? Why didn't they comply with the league investigation then?
They won their Uefa case based on statute of limitations rulings that don’t apply to the premier league
if they "had the evidence" then why have they paid so much money and gone to the high courts to try and sanction any reveling of documents and paper trails for their finances concerning this matter and why don't they just hand this "Ample evidence" over and put this to bed?
They will now perhaps and this'll be an open and shut case 🤣
No ability to go to CAS....no time limits...they are getting a points deduction and a transfer ban as a minimum
The guy on the left needs a clue. Pep said that if they are found out to have been lying then he would leave not that he knew they weren't lying and he would have left. Two completely different things.
It shows pep knew something was going on before this was released to the public doesnt sound good to people with common sense does it..
FOUR year investigation ?? What was the rush ??
Do what they did to Glasgow Rangers and drop them into Division 2
Hope the punishment will be a fine like 50m or more... and then PL donates the money to the clubs in the lower leagues in England.
That's chump change
The net worth of their owner should be taken into account.
A 1 billion pound fine would actually affect them. 50 million is pocket change.
Simple demand the owners sell up like abramovic had to
50 mill thats not gonna happen it will be a heavy points deduction id say 40points then you have 19 other clubs who are gonna pissed off and want them relegated if they all join up it could happen
Relegation is highly unlikely to happen...City will get away with a points deduction or a hefty fine..and I'm afraid the latter won't make a huge impact on financial fairplay in the future of English. football
I highly doubt points would be deducted.
Fines are lose change for city? Points deductions over a 10 year period would be a fairer punishment? The premier league won't have the balls to relegate City to the championship?
Let us see if money wins or integrity.
Man City will just pay the independent panel off. No titles will be stripped, no justice done. EPL will talk the talk but won't walk the walk
FFP is ridiculous,
we used to beg for investment to come into English football, controls on the number of players per club is required but not investment.
Exactly
There's a difference between building success and buying success, and if your also breaking the rules to buy even more than your allowed, their can be no pride in that!
its not about investments, man city literally falsified revenue so they could spend more "investment" oil money instead of what they are allowed to spend through FFP regulations. Man city bought success with oil money they werent allowed to use
Guilty until proven guilty even if they are proven innocent seems to be the general consensus.
Man city was the only reason why I am still following the league because of their style of play 😭
never mind you can support Arsenal now they are top
Garry Glitter was the only reason why I am still following Pop music because of his 2 drummers ...that doesn't sound credible somehow ...
what about the trophies they won during those time i think they should give them to the runner-up
Will roll on for years until ultimately its forgot about or back hander. Meanwhile city keep picking up trophys
Need to proof.
If yes, action from the premier league management must be fair and fast.
EPL is still playing and it could effect to the EPL teams and if yes, UEFA and UCL will also need a great decision also.
Ask the people. Not the press
Can't wait for City's derby match against Macclesfield next season.
-Players and staff should be allowed to leave.
-Pay club's who they have directly financially impacted
-Like rangers start like a new club and work up through the league's bringing interest to lower league's
How would you get stripped of a title? Does that mean you award trophies to runners up? How would this even work?
literally take the title away and give it to the runner up just as you said
Liverpool should have double, Treble and Gerrard a title under his name. Such bs. We all knew this was going on.
Many will be stumped after all this scandal tbh.
The PL don’t have the stomach for this because they know this could blow the lid off and expose other club’s financial wrongdoings. How many clubs can you take action against? This will accelerate the development of a Super League.
If those teams would rather cheat to get ahead than compete fairly then let those cheating buggers go make their own little league. Who cares? The sport would be better off without those "entertainers". I say that because they wouldn't be sportsmen anymore, they'd become performers whose sole aim is to make money for their owners. Be careful what you you for laddy.
Do the Premier League have the power to relegate a club or just throw them out? I'm under the impression it's the latter. The football league as a separate entity makes the decision where new entrance start and they usually start the bottom. I know it was in Scotland but that's what happened to Rangers.
The EPL has the ability to withdraw membership of the EPL. The FA has the ability to withdraw membership from the English league and that would men a team would have to reapply to enter again and start at the very bottom.
Another question which nobody seems to be asking with all of this was taxation properly applied in this situation?
Strip them of all titles, relegate them to the very bottom and ban them from transfers for 10 seasons. Fine is no good here
Chelsea spent the money within the rules giving players long term contracts thats the difference, City cooked the books and thought they could get away with it.
Relegation and strip them of all trophies won . That is the only way .
Set an example to all these state owned clubs
If you make illegal payments that is also tax avoidance that can lead to prosecution and imprisonment! City won the UEFA case based on a statute of limitations technicality,you don't get fined for being innocent! If city are guilty nothing should be off the table from relegation to stripping them of their titles!
They "Welcome" the premier league statement because that's all they can say. They can't argue and sound guilty, they have to just say "Yes, let's look into it, because we have nothing to hide". The female journalist is a bit naive.
we promise to cut the grass shorter in the future
Look at what happened to Juventus for far less.