I love that I can load my NAM profiles and IRs all in one plugin. That alone makes this worth downloading, on top of having some pretty badass amps available as well. Definitely a fan of this plugin
Eat your shorts, Neural DSP, Line 6, Kemper, and Fractal! Just another proof of the power of open source software and what people can achieve collaboratively when they're not hindered by copyright! This is the democratization of toan! Imagine how many millions of people now have access to inspiring tones to write music!
Holy crap! I've been trying out all the guitar sims but, since I found this one, I haven't used any of the others! I agree with every word you said. A must have.
Hard to believe something with this amount of features is free. Sounds bloody great, and this could've been quite complicated to use, but it definitely looks like they've worked hard to make it as easy as possible. Looking forward to checking this one out. Cheers! Also, all of your video formats are cool 👍
Great video man, I was looking for a better tone than the mess I have now, and this is SO much better than my other free tone makers. Just installed this and it's boss. thanks man.
Don't forget to check out the tonesnaps capturing. Those are basically NAM quality captures but the whole capture process is done within the confines of Tonocracy and the training happens in the cloud, so you don't neeed a powerful GPU like you'd need for NAM or Tonex. Makes creating captures of your own amps much quicker and easier.
everytime i think i got all the good free stuff and dont search youtube for new stuff i search again and see months old videos with better new stuff, i have so many amp sims and IRs and stuff now lol
I guess it does win since it's free and probably not as CPU intensive as the Two Notes Genome. But for people who bought two notes products in the past they got a license for Genome. It's a runner up indeed especially with the Tone stack you can add on top of NAM captures
"probably not as CPU intensive as the Two Notes Genome" How do you know ? The CPU intensive part of Genome seems to be the CODEX module (which loads the NAM profiles), which used to be stereo by default (so very CPU hungry), and that can now be defaulted to mono. Not saying you're wrong, but just saying Genome, when CODEX is in mono, could very well be not more CPU intensive than all the other NAM loaders (including tonocracy) out there. I don't know if someone has tested that since the recent Genome update with the CODEX mono mode.
Glad to see they quickly fixed the issues that plagued the initial free release, now we can chug away to our heart's content for free. My kind of pricing scheme! I'm not sure what their business model is, but hopefully it isn't based on data mining or something nefarious like that. The tones sound pretty nice and probably very plausible with some tinkering and experimentation. Finally, some good news this week! Thanks for the great video and heads up! 👑🎸🔥
Hey im just testing my ears, are you using that harley benton with the emgs in this video? That tone for some reason makes me think of that guita Lol, otherwise killer tone!
Aah, i actually have an entwistle darkstar neodimium something aswell, i knew this sounded familiar! These cheap pickups are awesome, the precision and clarity for a passive pickup for this price is insane! Almost like an active in some ways
I've downloaded this thing a couple months ago, but I can't seem able to get a simple amp/cabinet to throw my drives into. I mean, it sounds incredible in this video, and it seems very well suited for those extreme metal distortions. But I'm struggling hard to find an amp I can get something like Iron Maiden's guitars tone from. Do you - or anybody here - have any suggestion? Thanks for the video!
They initially asked pretty hefty money for this but quickly realised that NAM had disrupted the game such that it made more sense to use this as a way to get users into their ecosystem, with a view to selling them the upcoming hardware pedal. Furthermore, i think thats why theres no midi capability for this plugin, as it would reduce incentive to buy the pedal.
@@rosthariton7930 I only know that Atomic are creating a successor to their amplifire pedals that will be able to run NAM; I imagine it will be running this software. Moreover, it's really the only way this being free makes any business sense, too.
unfortunately this was very underwhelming when I tried it, it's the same story as with most of the NAM profiles I've tried. It took forever to figure out how to do split chains. But you made it sound great.
@@resington couldn't get it to sound that great in my setup, especially heavy distortion wasn't doing the trick. I'm sure it's just a user error on my side, but I just prefer other plugins
@@ayeapprove There is a learning curve with NAM profiles, regardless of what you use to load them (the NAM player, Tonocracy, Genome, etc). It can be hit and miss depending on the profile you load and the rest of your chain, and you need to learn how to tweak it (pre EQ or just changing IR / mic position to the rescue sometimes) or just reach a different profile that works better for your current situation. NB : when facing a NAM profile that doesn't sound right at first : learning how to make it work is a great exercise btw
After that, "Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for RACE License Support Win64"... this install iLok License Manager. Without these, tonocracy doesn't work. Well, it is not completely free like NAM. Unless there is a pirated version :)
Much too noisy amps models combined with the lousiest noise gate, I ever have experienced, which does not even properly do, what it should, hardly convince me much. As little as the poor fx-and IR-sections. ToneSnap also works disappointingly bad, if it at least works and from any amateurish NAM files I anyway prefer running away in time. I get better and more authentic, less noisy tones from a lot of other plugins, not to speak of my real amps. For me the worst guitar plugin in 2014. Tested and deleted!
@@resington No, I do not like most neural network based plugin in general, like the ones of Neural DSP, Mercuriall or ML Sound Lab. Apart from some, whyever better sounding exceptions, like eg. (some of) my own ToneX models. But I would not even use my own ToneX models, If I alternatively could use the real amps for recording. This technology (neural amp modeling) is not capable of giving you 100% authentic results, even if you do everything right. Maybe in 10 years. But, as far as I saw, the built-in plugins anyway are not neural network, but circuit based and for such ones they simply do not convince me much. Not really 2024 state-of-the-art for me. My Nembrini and Softube Plexis sound much less noisy, much more authentically and more naturally, so why should I then bother around with a worse, but noisier and more synthetically sounding alternative? Not to speak of using my own Plexi based tube amps instead, which all work much less noisy even without any noise gate, even for recording. This plugin could have been a good one, theoretically, but as it is, it is an amateur fail for me, sorry. Others do a much better, more professional job. At least for me. If I adjust a noise gate in ToneX, it removes all noise, but the sound never starts pumping or is cut-off, in most of my other favorite plugins I do not even need a noise gate, as long as I do not use a 5150, VH-4, Rectifier or Savage 120. Hardly ever I needed one for a Plexi with medium Volume settings only. Apart from Tonocracy and then the noise gate does not even do, what it should. Not to speak of the increased, but hardly removable noise, if I use even a decently adjusted overdrive pedal in front. Any real 1959 or JMP-50 with a SD-1 in front is much more silent, if directly miked. So, is the problem my personal impression alone or just an amateurish, unprofessional programming? At the moment Tonocracy is dead and useless for me, can amateur toy but certainly no winner whereever, whyever, but maybe an update will change my impression... ....somewhen.
@@resington I already have much better sounding freeware plugins, some even decades old, but if you are happy with these noisy toy tones, I certainly have no problem with it.
Totally forgot to mention in the video.. To load in NAM files just drag and drop into the tonesnaps section on the plugin window.
I love that I can load my NAM profiles and IRs all in one plugin. That alone makes this worth downloading, on top of having some pretty badass amps available as well. Definitely a fan of this plugin
Agreed! I have started organizing my NAM stuff into neat folders. Great to have one place for it all!
Hands down the best plugin I've ever used. The modelled amps are amazing, and the ability to clone and load nam profiles is incredible
Resington + free amp sim = the way to go
RUclips algorithm seems to think so too! Cheers.
Used to have Podfarm and was looking for something else since that's no longer being updated. This was hands down a winner.
Eat your shorts, Neural DSP, Line 6, Kemper, and Fractal!
Just another proof of the power of open source software and what people can achieve collaboratively when they're not hindered by copyright!
This is the democratization of toan! Imagine how many millions of people now have access to inspiring tones to write music!
One of the best I've heard for sure!
I wish it also was a small hardware device like HX Stomp or Kemper Player.
@@rosthariton7930 dime has preorders up, i think it's 600 euro
I’m working on it 12 ours now after your video… the best plugins ever ! Thanks
Sounds amazing. I can't believe it's totally free. It's crazy.
They added diezel vh4 channels 3 and 4 last week in an update. Excellent
Never heard of this one, it looks amazing! Thanks for enlightening us once again!
Holy crap! I've been trying out all the guitar sims but, since I found this one, I haven't used any of the others! I agree with every word you said. A must have.
LOVE this stuff, thanks for making this
Hard to believe something with this amount of features is free. Sounds bloody great, and this could've been quite complicated to use, but it definitely looks like they've worked hard to make it as easy as possible.
Looking forward to checking this one out. Cheers!
Also, all of your video formats are cool 👍
Great video man, I was looking for a better tone than the mess I have now, and this is SO much better than my other free tone makers.
Just installed this and it's boss. thanks man.
No problem cheers.
They added diesel amp too now.. amazing 🎉🎉😊😊
This whole system is bloody Sick !! Thank so much this made my day and then some.
tons of options for free. sounds killler !
Don't forget to check out the tonesnaps capturing. Those are basically NAM quality captures but the whole capture process is done within the confines of Tonocracy and the training happens in the cloud, so you don't neeed a powerful GPU like you'd need for NAM or Tonex. Makes creating captures of your own amps much quicker and easier.
I'm definitely checking this one out! Thanks for the heads up!
Crazy! Great plugin. Full mix Video would be great. Sound of the built in amps is excellent.
It's a beast for sure. Also, as well as the NAM stuff, I really liked the latest update with the new amp models.
Cool man! I need to try this plugin! Sounds very cool!
Nice Review, last update Is very good, cheers, 🤘🎸
I WISH something like this would've existed when I first got started with amp sims/recording, free or paid.
A killer plug in, i'm fond of iit since Yesterday !
i just love it as well ,very underrated indeed
That sounds more natural then almost every neural dsp tone. Everything sounds digital when soloed
everytime i think i got all the good free stuff and dont search youtube for new stuff i search again and see months old videos with better new stuff, i have so many amp sims and IRs and stuff now lol
right on. Absolutely bonkers for free 💀🎸🤘
I guess it does win since it's free and probably not as CPU intensive as the Two Notes Genome. But for people who bought two notes products in the past they got a license for Genome. It's a runner up indeed especially with the Tone stack you can add on top of NAM captures
"probably not as CPU intensive as the Two Notes Genome"
How do you know ?
The CPU intensive part of Genome seems to be the CODEX module (which loads the NAM profiles), which used to be stereo by default (so very CPU hungry), and that can now be defaulted to mono.
Not saying you're wrong, but just saying Genome, when CODEX is in mono, could very well be not more CPU intensive than all the other NAM loaders (including tonocracy) out there. I don't know if someone has tested that since the recent Genome update with the CODEX mono mode.
Glad to see they quickly fixed the issues that plagued the initial free release, now we can chug away to our heart's content for free. My kind of pricing scheme! I'm not sure what their business model is, but hopefully it isn't based on data mining or something nefarious like that. The tones sound pretty nice and probably very plausible with some tinkering and experimentation. Finally, some good news this week! Thanks for the great video and heads up! 👑🎸🔥
Come a long way since s-preshigh
Hi! What is your signal chain, your guitar? Nice sound!
A M A Z I N G
The NAM gain changes your DI signal strength. It is NOT an amp gain control
An input control basically yeah. Thought so. Cheers.
Hey im just testing my ears, are you using that harley benton with the emgs in this video? That tone for some reason makes me think of that guita Lol, otherwise killer tone!
Thanks but no it was my soloking with entwistle dark star hdn pickups.
Aah, i actually have an entwistle darkstar neodimium something aswell, i knew this sounded familiar! These cheap pickups are awesome, the precision and clarity for a passive pickup for this price is insane! Almost like an active in some ways
I love it, I just wish they would add more drive pedals, something like a Precision Drive or something for more modern 7/8 string metal tones
Use a high pass at about 200hz maybe even 300hz before this for near enough the same affect as a Precision drive.
@@resingtonthanks ill try this
@@Airtrooper719 load tonocracy in a daw and use any of the high quality neural OD pedals
Does it take midi pedals for turning effects on and off?
I've downloaded this thing a couple months ago, but I can't seem able to get a simple amp/cabinet to throw my drives into. I mean, it sounds incredible in this video, and it seems very well suited for those extreme metal distortions. But I'm struggling hard to find an amp I can get something like Iron Maiden's guitars tone from. Do you - or anybody here - have any suggestion? Thanks for the video!
@@andreasbeaufort3594 my copy has become buggy yet again and is making a lot of noises. Can't recommend this at the moment.
Hi ya! Could you please help me? My Tonocracy is full screen and I can't make it smaller, any ideas? Thanks!
What input hardware do you use to plug your guitar into the plug in software?
Behringer umc202hd interface. Straight in. Line and pad switch in. No DI box.
How is it free though? I am skeptical of it because it seems too good to be true.
Same here dude but so far so good.
Apparently there is hardware coming. It makes sense to use this as a way to get folks into the ecosystem ala Tonex, then sell them the hardware.
Almost all open source software is free.
D-rex = Dual-Rec FYI
Yep totally right thanks, dunno how I missed that! 😏
They initially asked pretty hefty money for this but quickly realised that NAM had disrupted the game such that it made more sense to use this as a way to get users into their ecosystem, with a view to selling them the upcoming hardware pedal.
Furthermore, i think thats why theres no midi capability for this plugin, as it would reduce incentive to buy the pedal.
Do they plan to make a modeller with tonocracy? Do you have any info about that?
@@rosthariton7930 I only know that Atomic are creating a successor to their amplifire pedals that will be able to run NAM; I imagine it will be running this software.
Moreover, it's really the only way this being free makes any business sense, too.
unfortunately this was very underwhelming when I tried it, it's the same story as with most of the NAM profiles I've tried. It took forever to figure out how to do split chains. But you made it sound great.
Underwhelming? How? Just the drive amp and cabs are amazing for free dude.
@@resington couldn't get it to sound that great in my setup, especially heavy distortion wasn't doing the trick. I'm sure it's just a user error on my side, but I just prefer other plugins
@@ayeapprove There is a learning curve with NAM profiles, regardless of what you use to load them (the NAM player, Tonocracy, Genome, etc). It can be hit and miss depending on the profile you load and the rest of your chain, and you need to learn how to tweak it (pre EQ or just changing IR / mic position to the rescue sometimes) or just reach a different profile that works better for your current situation.
NB : when facing a NAM profile that doesn't sound right at first : learning how to make it work is a great exercise btw
This sounds like 95 % real. Kemper is like 98 -99 %. It doesn't have that problems with highs that most plugins have.
How did you measure this?
kemper certainly is NOT 98% real
No, Tonocracy it's not completely free... NAM is completely free.
How is tonocracy not free?
@@resington Needs registration and ilock, NAM not.
@@QTQification my version doesn't dude.
@@resington "To download Tonocracy, please log in or create an account"
After that, "Welcome to the InstallShield Wizard for RACE License Support Win64"... this install iLok License Manager.
Without these, tonocracy doesn't work. Well, it is not completely free like NAM.
Unless there is a pirated version :)
Much too noisy amps models combined with the lousiest noise gate, I ever have experienced, which does not even properly do, what it should, hardly convince me much. As little as the poor fx-and IR-sections.
ToneSnap also works disappointingly bad, if it at least works and from any amateurish NAM files I anyway prefer running away in time.
I get better and more authentic, less noisy tones from a lot of other plugins, not to speak of my real amps.
For me the worst guitar plugin in 2014. Tested and deleted!
Do you work for Neural DSP?
@@resington No, I do not like most neural network based plugin in general, like the ones of Neural DSP, Mercuriall or ML Sound Lab.
Apart from some, whyever better sounding exceptions, like eg. (some of) my own ToneX models. But I would not even use my own ToneX models, If I alternatively could use the real amps for recording. This technology (neural amp modeling) is not capable of giving you 100% authentic results, even if you do everything right. Maybe in 10 years.
But, as far as I saw, the built-in plugins anyway are not neural network, but circuit based and for such ones they simply do not convince me much. Not really 2024 state-of-the-art for me.
My Nembrini and Softube Plexis sound much less noisy, much more authentically and more naturally, so why should I then bother around with a worse, but noisier and more synthetically sounding alternative?
Not to speak of using my own Plexi based tube amps instead, which all work much less noisy even without any noise gate, even for recording.
This plugin could have been a good one, theoretically, but as it is, it is an amateur fail for me, sorry. Others do a much better, more professional job. At least for me.
If I adjust a noise gate in ToneX, it removes all noise, but the sound never starts pumping or is cut-off, in most of my other favorite plugins I do not even need a noise gate, as long as I do not use a 5150, VH-4, Rectifier or Savage 120. Hardly ever I needed one for a Plexi with medium Volume settings only.
Apart from Tonocracy and then the noise gate does not even do, what it should. Not to speak of the increased, but hardly removable noise, if I use even a decently adjusted overdrive pedal in front.
Any real 1959 or JMP-50 with a SD-1 in front is much more silent, if directly miked.
So, is the problem my personal impression alone or just an amateurish, unprofessional programming?
At the moment Tonocracy is dead and useless for me, can amateur toy but certainly no winner whereever, whyever, but maybe an update will change my impression...
....somewhen.
@@HEZ63 it's free. I'm just grateful it exists.
@@resington I already have much better sounding freeware plugins, some even decades old, but if you are happy with these noisy toy tones, I certainly have no problem with it.
@@HEZ63 sounds like user error tbh