I Respond To Bring A Trailer Video!
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- My response to bring a trailer video
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If there were more Pierre run shops in the world, the world of classic Mercedes ownership would be in a better state!!!!
I agree with Pierre 100% on his comments about BAT. I know all of of this first hand. Thank you, Pierre for courageously vocalizing the truth.
Pierre Hedary is the most honest individual I have met. Not only as a human being, but as a professional classic MB mechanic. I sincerely doubt there is any one like him in the classic MB community. His job is his vocation and his magnanimity toward all of us on time and knowledge makes him a real leader in the MB mechanic community.
Bravo Pierre! You always tell it how it is. I celebrate your genuineness and sincerity. I wish there were more people in the world of mechanics and shops like you man!
Pierre is absolutely correct. BAT does not return phone calls, emails or any thing else. I’ve personally contacted them multiple times about auctioning various cars over the years and never once received a response. This latest round was on a 190SL that ultimately went to Barrett Jackson. They missed out on a massive sale because they wouldn’t respond.
I’ve said this before. I’ve had auction cars in my shop multiple times and they’ve all had many undisclosed issues. The next time I get one in, I think I’ll do a full video of everything that we find. As a collector that owns over 20 vehicles, most of them classic Mercedes, I would never ever in 1 million years purchase a vehicle off BAT or any other online auction site. I would go to Mecum or Barrett, Jackson or auction. They’re simply too much risk with messing around with those sites. As far as I’m concerned, they all need to be shut down.
Love the honesty, Pierre! And I wish more people could talk about their political views without offending or getting offended LOL
First I want to say this man has an incredible commitment to family. some family members need intense care and he provides it. Next, I thought I knew quite a bit about my 1985 Mercedes 300D. Compared to him and his staff I was wrong. they are incredibly intensely funded with knowledge. So I said: “fix it, fix it right, don’t cut corners , and don’t use junk parks.” The reply was they don’t do it any other way. I am so happy I found these guys. If you have an old MB your gotta be nuts not to take it there if it needs repair or service
I’ve been falling into classic Mercedes because of this channel and have been looking to purchase one instead of a w140 or w220 or newer Mercedes because of my research which validates everything you talk about in comparison of classic vs new Mercedes. When your successful people always want to be hateful or negative. Keep doing your thing 💪🏽
Norm here…I decided to call Pierre up for 190E 16v engine swap into my 230TE wagon and he gave me 30-40 mins of his work time to help me. He could have easily brushed me off but instead, he was a true enthusiast and a gentleman, authenticity is hard to find nowadays. Thanks Pierre!
Love you no matrer what. Never thought about your political leanings. I'm just a happy man that loves the fact that hes not being fed BS. Been a Benz fan since my birth because of dad, a man thaat knows. You do the hard work regardless of opinion. Thank you. I will own a 560SEL one day and it will be glorious. Thank you Pierre.
I bought a nice MB from bat from a very reputable dealer. Paid top dollar. Still had to redo all the basic maintenance with proper fluids, plugs, etc. I am spending lots of money over 10k to bring the car to a good restored state doing work myself... Do not matter who you buy the car from plan on spending 10-15k if you want it running properly. That said, if it has rust stay away... If it looks good , does not necessarily mean it is mechanically as good.... Pierre knows his stuff, the small things that need to be changed on the car can cost lots of time and money.. ex flex discs, mounts, suspension, not to mention all the old sensors that would need to be changed......
Based Pierre Chads can't stop winning. Love your vids.
WHOAH BIG FELLA!! So you have a couple of concerns it seems. One is the client not getting the car they think they are buying, and secondly you "feel" as if they are paying too much? I think that is what I am getting from you.
To your first point, just like on any other auction site, or on the internet in general, reputation matters. Those of us that do have stellar reputations, you just made our job a tick harder. I am the guy that does the 300-400 pictures and shows EVERYTHING! Many of us also provide those videos as to put the customer behind the wheel and try to create an experience and assess the car as if they were there in person. Aside from that, all we can do is invite them over or have them send someone on their behalf for a pre-sale inspection.
One of the biggest issues I have with you is you seem to be a bit hypocritical in some of your "opinion". And it's mostly opinion without any real studies or facts. You talk about "people overpaying".... Based on what? Solely your opinion. Who is to say a car sold for 25% higher than it's value?? Every car is different, so I think you are wrong there. But you rattled off some figures, you said something like if a car sells for $18-25k and then needs $30k in work, well then you just got a bad deal. Ok, maybe you don't buy a $20,000 Benz and even consider spending $30k on it. Maybe you just leave it. Some cars are just not worth trying to get near perfect. With your argument, if some one GAVE me a Mercedes for free that was worth let's say $15k and then I had to take it to your shop and come at me with a $30k bill, where is the problem here? Nothing wrong with spending some money to make a car "safe". It sounds to me like if a car shows up at your shop you are trying to make everything "new". That being the case, some $15-$20k Benzes, as long as there are no safety issues, are best to be left alone. And that can be said with any make or model.
Finally, all the time you spent making these two videos, you could had plenty of time to get that haircut.
I think this video is a defining moment in Mercedes Classics history. I don’t recall Pierre actually responding to too many comments on his videos. His defense of his positions on BAT were solid. At the end of the day, if you want to buy any car from an auction or sight unseen, at least consider using a inspection service. Hopefully one other than Lemon Squad. I hired them to “inspect” a 1995 E300 in Maryland. They reported zero leaks of any kind. My wife and I picked it up and drove it home to NJ. We had to stop once to refill the engine oil even though it was full at the dealer. Once home, I discovered that the only fluid not leaking was brake fluid. The puddle of diesel, oil, transmission fluid was more than a foot in diameter. Lemon squad said there were no leaks and that car must have started leaking on the drive home. So, I’m not trustful of inspection outfits, either. Given that, you have to play the odds and buy from places that don’t have a rep for selling classic Mercedes that need significant work unless they honestly disclose that to be the case.
I always look for the photo of the wrinkled interior window trim on a 240D
In the brokerage industry, it's call churning. The site in question is churning cars for listing fees.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your knowledge and opinions. This reminds me that no good deed goes unpunished.
I bought my car off of marketplace and thank god the owner disclosed everything they repaired. They didn't repair anything it actually needed, but at least they were honest! If they had told me what was actually wrong with it I would have bought it anyway and this wouldn't be nearly as entertaining.
Thanks for answering my questions at like 2AM, Pierre. I really appreciate what you do.
Always look for the weather protection strip under the closing panel.Think it's a great indicator.
I bought my 1972 280se 4.5 in 2000 on ebay sight unseen. Got very lucky, and still drive it today, almost every day. Not my commuter car, more like my dream loving car. I would never recommend it as a commuter car due to lack of safety and gas milage.
But, I took risk by buying on eBay, and BAT is no different than eBay, so they are just a platform for commerce not a guarantor of descriptions.
Just as an aside, it is exponentially more difficult today to find a knowledgeable mechanic for those cars than it was 25 years ago.
Pierre is absolutely right about conduits like BAT. In order to have a reputation of selling great cars, you have to vet your sellers and cars. Always check and verify.
Howard Silvers is a good dude. I bought my 1983 300CD from Howard. He is a great seller. Everything as advertised. A ton of photos and documents. Car is immaculate. Pierre reviewed the BAT ad, offered advice, and agreed it showed well. I ditched the veggie oil system that was on it. Did I pay more than market? Yes, but I got a premium turn key looker with no hidden issues. Howard had a few videos of cold start, a cruise, etc. I love my 300CD. Shout out to Howard Silvers.
I love the response to the political assumption.
Good follow up video Pierre. I think one thing to mentioned is the reasons why cars are being sold at auction in the first place. Auctions are generally for high end, rare collector cars or for cars they could not sell in the traditional way (private party). Most vehicles sold at auction are the ones they couldn’t sell. Dealers keep the good vehicles and auction the junk. You know what I mean? If I had a perfect 190SL and I needed to sell it, using an auction would be my last choice. Instead I would find a broker and try to sell it for top dollar. When buying a vehicle at an auction you need to understand why the vehicle is there. When you purchase a house and need a loan the bank requires that you have an inspection before they will loan you the money. Why are people not having these auction cars properly inspected before purchasing?
Tony - have been avidly following your channel for the past year. Love what you have done, looking forward to the conclusion.
Auctions (whether online/BaT or in person like Mecum) are designed to get people irrationally caught up with the emotion of pursuing and gambling to buy the car and think they are getting something that is desirable to others. Getting a pre-purchase inspection is far too rational and time-consuming for the average person, who wants the thrill of the chase and the instant gratification of buying the car they want at that moment.
It has always amazed me how many people out there buy cars simply on emotion, rather than actually doing the due diligence to research the car, get it inspected, research the seller (especially if they are a flipper-dealer), and research what should be a good price. BaT’s emotional call results in cars going for 20-100% higher than they should, although this effect has diminished over the past year as more and more people get extended on their credit cards, HELOCs, and loans because of rising interest rates.
@@gerryvanzandt7894 Hi there Gerry. I have followed your many posts on the forums for years. I purchased my 560SL at an auction in California. It took me two years before I pulled the trigger on this one. I hired an inspection service who first inspects the vehicle. I tell them to take specific photos that I was interested in and I told them what to look for. They did mechanical tests like a cold start, compression tests and so on. Once we agreed on a vehicle I then flew out to California and I did my own inspection and I settled on a maximum price before the auction began. I paid $6,000 for my 560SL. When I bought they were not as popular as they are today. The car ran, I checked the chains, cam lobes and guides, I inspected the subframes and everything I could think of. I knew it needed a rear seal & a transmission rebuild and other minor work. Even after all this I still found many things wrong after the purchase. For one the rear seal leak ended up being a spun seal that had damaged the rear, cover. That’s when my rabbit hole began. Any vehicle that is 30-40 years old will have problems you can’t see and that’s why they end up in Pierre’s shop.
I agree with you observation as to why cars wind up at auctions instead of dealers. The other thing to consider is that many times, these cars, even if they don’t have issues aren’t appealing to the dealers clientele.
Thank you Pierre, and my 280SL’s thank you as well.
Somehow, the 'Carlos Valderrama' look works for your Pierre, it's just the wrong color!
Love that hairy back analogy.
Don't buy into praise and blame that others are subjecting us. Your professionalism is obvious. Carry on!
Friend brought a Porsche 968 on BAT, turned out to have a bad transaxle
BAT is fine as a candy store for seeing what out there and for maybe above market prices....but then I would search out one closer that I can go look at in person,,,,but then I tend to not walk away once I see a car in person because I think oh thats not too bad , I can fix that
The whole idea of 300 photos is that it helps to sell the product. It sells confidence. And that's it. Does it show the whole store? Not necessarily. The fact BaT don't engage in MB communities could be because there is a risk to lose reputation. If you claim that you're the best, then why should you literally prove it to everyone. They market themselves as a first and largest car auction for enthusiasts. If they come out to people then they would have to answer some tough questions. And this could damage their reputation. Btw company is owned by Hearst. Regarding MBMarket I think they are in a role of challengers. That's why they are trying to prove that they are not another copycat of BaT but something better. What I don't like about all these auctions is they force you to set a reserve price that may be lower than the amount you want to get for your car. It's like either you agree with such reserve or don't use that service. In some cases they force you to list it as a no reserve car.
I bought my Mercedes on BaT about 3 years ago. It was a good experience, not a great experience. A couple things were not disclosed to me by the selling dealer which I know they must have known about. But that happens with even with your local brick and mortar used car lots too. The difference is that BaT auctions command top dollar for some reason. It's all about DD, but that's difficult if you're not there in person.
What do you think about a used 130k mile Mercedes Benz sprinter cargo diesels are they reliable
I always think that hair gets on the way of heading the ball.
When I leave a comment on BAT,it has to be reviewed by the staff of BAT first. 😁
Same, I find so many issues with cars, sellers, and BAT, that my account is flagged with every comment I make. I’d say 1/3 are approved even though they are legitimate questions or concerns about the car.
First , i thought it was the homeless look , but now , i was wrong , it is the Jesus look . Great videos on all subjects .
What a boss!
Aqui no Brasil ate 1990 não era permitido importar carro. Mercedes só vinha via embaixada que depois de 2 ou 3 anos vendiam para civis. Mercedes a diesel como a minha então era mais dificil ainda. Não temos nem 20 unidades de w116 300sd. Peças então quase impossivel. Conhecer o pierre o woods end barclay foi a melhor coisa que existe na internet . não acredito que exista alguém com mais bagagem que o pierre hoje em dia sobre estes classicos. Me ajudou muito. Ja fui mecanico por 10 anos aqui . Mesmo assim hoje fora do mercado só eu quem concerto o meu . Ninguém quer mexer.
Pierre,
I would like to hear what you have to say about Car's & Bids and other auction sites and auction houses.
I bought a S124 on a Japan auction in the spring and knew it was a risk. In some ways the car was in great shape but there were surprises. Buyer beware. I haven't bought any car without issue unless it was new . Most sellers either don't tell you or are clueless about its issues.
Politics are (or should be) irrelevant in car culture. I’m a big fan of cars *I* like, but I enjoy seeing others’ car interests even if different from my personal tastes.
Photoshop was mentioned several times. Is there any evidence of this? Pretty easy to figure out for photoshop pros.
I never could understand the process of buying cars online or at the auction houses. You don't get to do any inspection or test driving. I just can't understand how you evaluate your purchase with so little information.
I will never understand why people get offended at the notion that BaT is some sort of sacred cow of the car collecting world. The highly shielded "brand" that rarely engages in a productive manner on any public forum should be a red flag for consumers, and while you can scream "PPI!!!" all day long, it doesn't change the fact that subpar cars (and unscrupulous sellers) are being allowed on the platform in the first place.
BAT is pretty obviously a rip-off to the average, objective enthusiast. Brother Pierre, you are 100% correct. Just ignore the naysayers.
I would hesitate to buy a vehicle from anyone that recommends bringing a trailer to retrieve it unless I knew it was non running.
BAT always puts money in their pockets first over ethical business practices.
For god's sake get a haircut, shave, and shower! DAILY
“I don’t engage in ad hominem attacks against people I disagree with”
This is a total lie. Pierre once called me the most vile and viscous things imaginable on social media due to my political views. saying among the many foul personal comments “I hate liberals” I have the screen shots to prove this.
He’s a hard core MAGA Trumper.
"He’s a hardcore MAGA Trumper." ... That's sad, truly sad. .. DJT is sick in the head.
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IB & got the Homo Farber thing, undergrad UF or UCF? I honestly don't give a damn until you start telling me that Biden or Trump is too old because they own Mustangs. :)
Well not so much on bring a trailer. On beliefs we luckily you have the right to believe in whatever party or religion. You should never feel as if to speak on any of these points. If you are you are not free you are. Just be you hair and all.
Where I’m from a kept beard like that would tell me you are not a liberal also knowing that you work daily and that you have what I feel as integrity. That what ever it maybe religious or political. Pisses me off when someone judges you. Without knowing you for at least a hour. My advise is don’t judge people not your job. If you don’t like it you don’t have to watch. Also a USA citizen has a right to have a opinion about anything. Stop screwing with this guy. Keep your rights
Thought liberals drove electric ?
@philreynolds6018 lots of NPR stickers on old Diesels.
I thought they all drove Subarus.
The only thing worse than being a “bearded liberal” is being a “bearded conservative” .
If liberals were like you I would become one immediately. You're too logical and use sound reasoning to justify your views.
I tend not to listen to bearded Tridentic Catholics but...
I bought my 1972 280se 4.5 in 2000 on ebay sight unseen. Got very lucky, and still drive it today, almost every day. Not my commuter car, more like my dream loving car. I would never recommend it as a commuter car due to lack of safety and gas milage.
But, I took risk by buying on eBay, and BAT is no different than eBay, so they are just a platform for commerce not a guarantor of descriptions.
Just as an aside, it is exponentially more difficult today to find a knowledgeable mechanic for those cars than it was 25 years ago.
I bought my 1972 280se 4.5 in 2000 on ebay sight unseen. Got very lucky, and still drive it today, almost every day. Not my commuter car, more like my dream loving car. I would never recommend it as a commuter car due to lack of safety and gas milage.
But, I took risk by buying on eBay, and BAT is no different than eBay, so they are just a platform for commerce not a guarantor of descriptions.
Just as an aside, it is exponentially more difficult today to find a knowledgeable mechanic for those cars than it was 25 years ago.