Five Mercedes engines you can maintain yourself
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I will tell you as a teen who bought 190e for a first project car it has been a blast to learn to work on.
Same here, i learned everything on my 190E, now i got w124 but I still keep my 190E
Yeah man ,push the throttle pedal while the hoods up and you catch a glimpse of linkage moving.
Purely mechanical, and fairly reliable and satisfying to watch in action
Alas, drive by wire is everywhere now and so intrusive with the traction control that the throttle pedal has become mush.
Theres nothing like the feeling of blasting down the road in your non-cupholder car , hitting a bump and having to have the suspension in your hand to keep the coffee from spilling because the bump made you also change position on the gas pedal. 😂
Your the best Pierre we all appreciate your hard work and honesty
Couldn’t agree more with the 190D. My grandfather 190D’s body gave out in the 90’s as it was a do it all vehicle on the family dairy farm but he still has the engine and uses it as a generator
I like this video, but I wish there were a few pertinent still photos inserted during the dialogue.
I would have to add cars with the M112-M113 engines. Once leaky cam covers are addressed these engines will go for more than 250K without issue. Coupled with the 722.6 transmission which once the conductor plate and plug are replaced will go just as long and provide good fuel economy.
Couldn’t agree more I have a 99 C280 with the 112 has about 220,000 miles on it apart from the valve cover gaskets, rear main seal, and resealing the lower oil pan it has been extremely reliable and problem free
M113 is probably the last great Mercedes engine before the Chrysler demise
Theres no way i would work on cars for a living. Its my hobby. It keeps me sane. Once you start doing things for money it isnt fun anymore. At least in my experience
My dad bought in 2015 a w202 standard tranny, c200. I use it as my job car and doesn't gives me any issues. Pretty simple and solid car.
My daughter ran my 97 C280 into a Jersey barrier at 70 after hitting standing water on the interstate at night and walked away with bruises. I prefer my 123’s for maintenance but will echo Pierre’s comments that the 202 is a good, modern rig with airbags and antilock brakes with little to go wrong.
I am glad your daughter was able to walk away. In the 90s (late 90s), my dad had a 1997 C280 that I leaned to drive on and when I passed my driver's test, I would use said car to drive around in with my friends.
They were solid cars. I can't talk on reliability because we got rid of the car after the lease was up. :-(
With hindsight being 20/20 my family wished we kept the car.
Finally the W202 gets some love. My '95 C280 is a champ! I've owned it for 29 years and would never give it up. It will be in the family til the end. Yeah, it has needed some work but I did it all myself. The M104 is a great engine.
W163 should have made the list. Tons of pick a part availability & other than the trans conductor plate not many issues the average guy couldn't figure out with help of the online forums.
280 SEL 6cly. is my choice. I had a chain tensioner break loose about 25MPH. I turned off the key put it in neutral and only damage was the chain, the tensioner, and a couple of bent rockers. At 160mph the motor sounded like a well-oiled sewing machine.😎
I don't think that the 2.8l 6cyl s class models reach 160 miles/hr that's 254 ish km/h and as far as I know the 300SEL w126 did around 200-230 so my guess is that the 280 SEL also did somewhere around 180-210. By it being a 280SEL, may i presume this is a W116. And if so it could only get to 200 kmph. only the V8 models would go faster than that.
I think he meant kph. It's too bad those cars never had overdrive. @@joloboy1167
I like very much all the information you share even when I own a 2005 slk 350. I know this channel is for classic Mercedes but if you could do just one video talking about this car (your opinion about how reliable they can be and common issues to be expected and when to check timing chain and transmission it would be easier to share this with at least with the slk community (that is really big) and you can gain more followers. Best!
I think the W124 is also a great car to learn to work on, specially the diesels. Any of the OM60X engines are very straight forward, the first car I worked on was my W124 300D, with the NA OM603 in this case, and it was a great learning experience.
Me too
190D. Brilliant car. I had one myself. I really liked that car but it was so rusty that I needed to get rid of it. It spent most of it's life in Scotland. The steel rims were rusted that much that we couldn't believe it holds air😂😂😂😂. Easy to work on though.
Great video.I was able to do most maintenance on my '72 4.5 280 SE.Granted,a 280 S 6 cyl would be easier,but the 4.5 wasn;t that bad
Great and informative video.
Bought a 1.8 manual poverty spec 190e 3 years ago with 270k for a bobbins and a bit of fun. Now on 311k and apart from standard servicing all I’ve had to replace is the OVP and fuel pump relays ( never really figured which one was causing my starting issues and cutting out? ), I’ve rebuilt a back caliper and welded up my back box.
A few jobs are stacking up now, heater blower slider switch is jammed in position 1, my indicator relay has just failed and the UK salted roads have put some ventilation holes in the rear wheelarches. The diff whines a bit and there’s a hissing from the bell housing that stops when the clutch is pressed so I’m guessing the thrust bearing is tired? I’ll stick a clutch in and rear crank seal whilst I’m in there. Any other car I’d bin but there’s just something about an old Merc you can’t put your finger on? They get under your skin somehow??
Thanks!
What is your thoughts on the M117.967 used on the 89 560sl.
Hi Pierre I’m thinking of getting a 1991 300D w124, I’m wondering what’s your thoughts on this one please thanks buddy 😊
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My 250s engine is bone simple. I'm surprised it didn't make the list.
"smart people" seem to think a mechanic's intelligence quotient is 50 or something; great mechanics channel not only for "Mercedes"
Hi Pierre,
If you were to assess more than five Mercedes Benz models for straightforwardness/degree of difficulty of engine maintenance, where would you place the M130 and the M117 engines?
I am asking about those two engines because I have a W108 280SE and a C126 560SEC.
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How about a w126 300SE european market m103.981? and for my dad a facelift W212 e220 diesel bluetec
Very good engine and car model
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W210?? E430?
What? No om606? I’m shocked
Literally the first car he talks about
Umm. No. He mentions first the OM 616. I’m talking about the om606. The 606 was a straight-6 and the first 4 valve twin cam. In the U.S. it was put in the 95 W124 E300 Diesel. Now a legendary engine that tuners favor in turbo tune to make big horsepower.
@@M3jetthe one with the legendary stuck glow plugs.
I read your comment too fast; fast like the OM606 :D
indeed, he did not mention it. Maybe it's not that easy?@@M3jet
No Mercedes is easy to maintain. This is a complete lie.
You have a lot to learn
Concordo plenamente o om616 é muito simples
Também como ex mecânico achei o om617 também simples.
was waiting for the w140 s600 engine... :(
that is very easy the OM engines the diesel engines from mercedes benz for instance the 615 616 617 or in my opinion even a little better an Om 601 602 603
I would say that you can't compare them. The 601-603 were made with the idea of a powerful, yet efficient engine. the later 606 TD would prove more efficient. a 615-617 was made with the idea of being indestructable, and that means simple mechanics but worse fuel consumption, whilst the 603-601 were more complicated, but still indestructable.
If you are outside the USA, the W123 200 I think is a pretty simple and reliable vehicle. Not quite as simple as the diesels perhaps but none the less a very good basic car with better highway cruising ability than a 240D.
Yes, or 230.
excellent info Pierre, thank you..
You lost me on w202 that car was an absolute nightmare even in it's day. As far as breaking down it was always some vaccum actuated party failure be it windows or locks them neutral switches wiring harnesses. I never worked on it based on my age at the time but geez it had Gremlins. I will say though it's still on the road today and once the kinks were resolved it seemed to stop asking for stuff
I thought the m103 fits in this category. But ok appreciate this video👍
I don't know. I am about to buy a W126 300 SEL with the m103.981 so I hope so
M103 is a great engine and easy to work on
@@joloboy1167 Actually there is another video from Pierre under the title 5 best values in classic mercedes and he mentions the w126 with M103 motor that is easy to work on. So don't worry .bro
@@DsFk80s thanks man!
Hey Pierre, love your videos
Did Kent ever respond to you about doing a video with you?
I've got an '88 W460 230GE SWB with the M102 engine and it's really easy to live with. Admittedly in the G, it has the fuel economy of a 747 and the aerodynamics of a railroad tie, the running gear itself has proven extremely robust. Thus far, I haven't run across anything I felt I couldn't address myself with my "shade tree" tools. I would like to see you do a video on the early G's at some point.
Glad you mentioned the 202. Had three and all were very frugal and easy to maintain. The accessibility is perfect of the M111 engine, especially a post 97 model with the electric fan. 97 onwards also don't have the wiring harness issues anymore. Accessibility is just as good on the M112 V6. My current beater is a 96 C250 Turbodiesel with the OM605 5 cylinder engine. Pulls like a freight train and returns 6L/100km (40 US MPG).
123 M110 280E ?
Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge, Pierre. I recently moved from California to Tampa and have difficulty finding MBZ classic mechanics. May head your way someday! I have a W180 220S and a W111 250SE Cabriolet.
Hello PIERRE can you plezes help me ? I’m looking at a 450SLC IT NEEDS HELP BUT LOOKS OK ! MY QUESTION IS ARE THEY GOOD CARS ?? THANKYOU PIERRE FOR YOUR GREAT WORK !!! THANKYOU
300TD W124, 300D W124, 420 SEL W126, E300 W124, W201 190E. So far the 190E is the easiest to maintain and to be honest my favorite car.
If you get an older car , Haynes or chilton manuals are not that bad , a lot of good infos there . Some errors , but few . So ebay for a used manual . The 115 cars where best , followed by 123 s .
The W202 is a great car! I've had my C280 for 29 years. I'm glad it made Pierre's list. The M104 is a reliable engine. Mine still gets 26 MPG. Awesome highway cruiser. If you address the few known issues this model has it will be a lifetime car.
I own a 1998 e320 Sedan, would that be considered a keeper? I've had it for about two years and not a lot of maintenance so far. I just wish the paint was in better shape.
I had a 99 c230K and a 93 190E. The c230k lasted me 10+years with minimal maintenance. the 190E i believe was a lemon and the head gasket blew. Got it fixed but it never ran the same. i had to let both of them go. Now I daily a Lexus 2001 LS430. Still miss both of my Mercedes.
Good choice thanks !
Thanks, great vid! What about the mid/late 80s M102 engines in a W124? Heard about head gasket issues and premature (single)timing chain wear… but apart from that? 🤔
That's exactly what I have - a carburetor M102 with a single chain. I measured the chain stretch and watching the coolant level etc. to monitor the gasket. I didn't do complex repairs/overhauls on it, I am not even a professional mechanic. But I replaced the valve stem seals, removed the fan, the water pump... It doesn't need valve adjustment, I like that. I like that it doesn't have fuel injection, as I heard it's not easy to diagnose. The only thing that I found is difficult (or rather unpleasant) so far is removing the oil sump - you need to lift the engine for that, and therefore the filter case, disconnect exhaust etc. I use it as a daily driver, starts very easily at 0 degrees Celsius. No serious problems so far.
I know this sounds awful, but to get to say 100k subscribers other utubers believe the fastest way to get there is free give always ..something simple …like your fav 3/8 ratchet or a favorite garage tool that really helps and is useful…
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It's got nothing to do with giving away freebies. If he wants to grow, he needs to improve and clean up his presentation. Unfortunately lately it's been getting worse. Who wants to watch a surly guy in a filthy oil stained shirt who keeps picking at his face with his filthy hands, and who just talks, rarely actually showing you anything? It might as well be an audio only podcast.
He already challenged his viewers to get to 50K by the end of the year in June 2021.
190D 2.5 and turbo
All the way!
Rare car, here in the states.
What about the OM615 of the W123 200D?
he mentioned the 240d from teh W123 and shortly mentioned why he didn't take the OM615 200D as it was inferiour in some way to the 240 D of the same era.
Hi, I saw someone selling a swapped 190E with a M111 2.0 and a 722.6 is it a good engine and transmission or better than the original?
Best trans ever made.
@@martinsvensson6884 What about the engine?
@@kzx5245 Never had that engine. But it was in all sorts of models including the w124 and w210. Never heard of any reliability issues with them. Maybe not the smoothest engines though. A bit industrial. Just like its predecessor. But had good fuel economy.
@@martinsvensson6884 Thanks for the info
Where would you rate the 2005 or 2006 W211 CDI ?
There is a video on the channel about modern mercedes and basically they are too advanced. The fact that you need thousand dollar diagnostics machines is basically a deal killer.
Good luck getting replacement chipsets
I would like to own a W211 400CDI or a E55