Five Mercedes engines you can maintain yourself

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @williambrashears3411
    @williambrashears3411 11 месяцев назад +18

    I will tell you as a teen who bought 190e for a first project car it has been a blast to learn to work on.

    • @Nikola-eu9nu
      @Nikola-eu9nu 11 месяцев назад +1

      Same here, i learned everything on my 190E, now i got w124 but I still keep my 190E

    • @MrTheHillfolk
      @MrTheHillfolk 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah man ,push the throttle pedal while the hoods up and you catch a glimpse of linkage moving.
      Purely mechanical, and fairly reliable and satisfying to watch in action
      Alas, drive by wire is everywhere now and so intrusive with the traction control that the throttle pedal has become mush.
      Theres nothing like the feeling of blasting down the road in your non-cupholder car , hitting a bump and having to have the suspension in your hand to keep the coffee from spilling because the bump made you also change position on the gas pedal. 😂

  • @elimeir8558
    @elimeir8558 2 дня назад

    I work on a lot of modern Mercedes and Porsches for a living, at the end of the day when I have to work on mine (115 with a 617/124 with a 602) the older cars are not hard at all.
    I have spent the last 35 years in the euro car repair business.
    It’s always a pleasure watching Pierre because you can tell the man obviously knows his stuff.

  • @LancLuciano
    @LancLuciano 11 месяцев назад +12

    Your the best Pierre we all appreciate your hard work and honesty

  • @sethlouiszimmerman
    @sethlouiszimmerman 11 месяцев назад +7

    Couldn’t agree more with the 190D. My grandfather 190D’s body gave out in the 90’s as it was a do it all vehicle on the family dairy farm but he still has the engine and uses it as a generator

  • @dinispaulino7512
    @dinispaulino7512 11 месяцев назад +10

    I think the W124 is also a great car to learn to work on, specially the diesels. Any of the OM60X engines are very straight forward, the first car I worked on was my W124 300D, with the NA OM603 in this case, and it was a great learning experience.

  • @ticktown2783
    @ticktown2783 11 месяцев назад +6

    I like this video, but I wish there were a few pertinent still photos inserted during the dialogue.

  • @douglasthompson9482
    @douglasthompson9482 11 дней назад

    Thank you for your honesty. My 104. Six cylinder is pretty good. Definitely some issues but not bad. This is a 1990 300sl. As a engineer, I am okay with it once you get into it.

  • @ThePublisher-jl6bz
    @ThePublisher-jl6bz 27 дней назад +1

    Have you considered making your videos more graphic? Meaning in this video you could have inserted text and pictures of the cars with these engines you prefer. I think you’d attract a broader audience. I hope you get to 50k susbs. Thanks for posting

  • @estefanofanhani
    @estefanofanhani 11 месяцев назад +4

    Concordo plenamente o om616 é muito simples
    Também como ex mecânico achei o om617 também simples.

  • @davidraezer5937
    @davidraezer5937 11 месяцев назад +9

    I would have to add cars with the M112-M113 engines. Once leaky cam covers are addressed these engines will go for more than 250K without issue. Coupled with the 722.6 transmission which once the conductor plate and plug are replaced will go just as long and provide good fuel economy.

    • @williamkerdasha5273
      @williamkerdasha5273 11 месяцев назад +2

      Couldn’t agree more I have a 99 C280 with the 112 has about 220,000 miles on it apart from the valve cover gaskets, rear main seal, and resealing the lower oil pan it has been extremely reliable and problem free

    • @CL500MBZ
      @CL500MBZ 11 месяцев назад +4

      M113 is probably the last great Mercedes engine before the Chrysler demise

  • @anibalnikov47
    @anibalnikov47 11 месяцев назад +1

    My dad bought in 2015 a w202 standard tranny, c200. I use it as my job car and doesn't gives me any issues. Pretty simple and solid car.

  • @tonychavez2083
    @tonychavez2083 11 месяцев назад +2

    excellent info Pierre, thank you..

  • @squid667
    @squid667 Месяц назад

    I like the M115 engine. We have the 230 version in our W123, and we also had it in the car I spent most of my upbringing in. It is easy to understand and work on. Valve adjustment is very easy, it has point ignition, mechanical fuel pump and the dual timing chain. The Stromberg carburetor is different from the other cars I have owned (VW and Rambler) but when you get to know it and get it to work properly it is very good.

  • @Zinglupate
    @Zinglupate 11 месяцев назад +1

    Glad you mentioned the 202. Had three and all were very frugal and easy to maintain. The accessibility is perfect of the M111 engine, especially a post 97 model with the electric fan. 97 onwards also don't have the wiring harness issues anymore. Accessibility is just as good on the M112 V6. My current beater is a 96 C250 Turbodiesel with the OM605 5 cylinder engine. Pulls like a freight train and returns 6L/100km (40 US MPG).

  • @theobster
    @theobster 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bought a 1.8 manual poverty spec 190e 3 years ago with 270k for a bobbins and a bit of fun. Now on 311k and apart from standard servicing all I’ve had to replace is the OVP and fuel pump relays ( never really figured which one was causing my starting issues and cutting out? ), I’ve rebuilt a back caliper and welded up my back box.
    A few jobs are stacking up now, heater blower slider switch is jammed in position 1, my indicator relay has just failed and the UK salted roads have put some ventilation holes in the rear wheelarches. The diff whines a bit and there’s a hissing from the bell housing that stops when the clutch is pressed so I’m guessing the thrust bearing is tired? I’ll stick a clutch in and rear crank seal whilst I’m in there. Any other car I’d bin but there’s just something about an old Merc you can’t put your finger on? They get under your skin somehow??

  • @pedronietsh
    @pedronietsh 2 месяца назад

    My c180 98 with 722.6 5 speed transmission, well equipped with sun roof, electric leather seats, and much more is just amazing. In my opinion it’s the perfect “blend” between the new and the classic. It’s super reliable, smooth and comfortable to drive, enough power and economical. The naturally aspirated m111.921 will basically go forever if properly maintained. Yeah, it gots some “computers”, but it’s pretty basic and not that much complexity. I think it’s the sweet spot. Not to mention the amount of available parts, and they’re not expensive. I know it’s not pierre’s favorite but I wish you talked more about the w202.

  • @whozat2008
    @whozat2008 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've got an '88 W460 230GE SWB with the M102 engine and it's really easy to live with. Admittedly in the G, it has the fuel economy of a 747 and the aerodynamics of a railroad tie, the running gear itself has proven extremely robust. Thus far, I haven't run across anything I felt I couldn't address myself with my "shade tree" tools. I would like to see you do a video on the early G's at some point.

  • @rocknrollrod5
    @rocknrollrod5 11 месяцев назад +3

    280 SEL 6cly. is my choice. I had a chain tensioner break loose about 25MPH. I turned off the key put it in neutral and only damage was the chain, the tensioner, and a couple of bent rockers. At 160mph the motor sounded like a well-oiled sewing machine.😎

    • @joloboy1167
      @joloboy1167 11 месяцев назад +2

      I don't think that the 2.8l 6cyl s class models reach 160 miles/hr that's 254 ish km/h and as far as I know the 300SEL w126 did around 200-230 so my guess is that the 280 SEL also did somewhere around 180-210. By it being a 280SEL, may i presume this is a W116. And if so it could only get to 200 kmph. only the V8 models would go faster than that.

    • @jptech57
      @jptech57 11 месяцев назад

      I think he meant kph. It's too bad those cars never had overdrive. @@joloboy1167

  • @jungletension2835
    @jungletension2835 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Pierre, love your videos
    Did Kent ever respond to you about doing a video with you?

  • @seanschaefer5233
    @seanschaefer5233 8 месяцев назад

    The W202 is a great car! I've had my C280 for 29 years. I'm glad it made Pierre's list. The M104 is a reliable engine. Mine still gets 26 MPG. Awesome highway cruiser. If you address the few known issues this model has it will be a lifetime car.

  • @tymcconney4054
    @tymcconney4054 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @tooththrhr
    @tooththrhr 8 месяцев назад +2

    Theres no way i would work on cars for a living. Its my hobby. It keeps me sane. Once you start doing things for money it isnt fun anymore. At least in my experience

  • @xmaxbabilo
    @xmaxbabilo 11 месяцев назад +3

    was waiting for the w140 s600 engine... :(

  • @LR-eo4ci
    @LR-eo4ci 7 месяцев назад

    I like very much all the information you share even when I own a 2005 slk 350. I know this channel is for classic Mercedes but if you could do just one video talking about this car (your opinion about how reliable they can be and common issues to be expected and when to check timing chain and transmission it would be easier to share this with at least with the slk community (that is really big) and you can gain more followers. Best!

  • @tymcconney4054
    @tymcconney4054 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge, Pierre. I recently moved from California to Tampa and have difficulty finding MBZ classic mechanics. May head your way someday! I have a W180 220S and a W111 250SE Cabriolet.

  • @ajones8008
    @ajones8008 11 месяцев назад

    I had a 99 c230K and a 93 190E. The c230k lasted me 10+years with minimal maintenance. the 190E i believe was a lemon and the head gasket blew. Got it fixed but it never ran the same. i had to let both of them go. Now I daily a Lexus 2001 LS430. Still miss both of my Mercedes.

  • @om602fan
    @om602fan 11 месяцев назад

    190D. Brilliant car. I had one myself. I really liked that car but it was so rusty that I needed to get rid of it. It spent most of it's life in Scotland. The steel rims were rusted that much that we couldn't believe it holds air😂😂😂😂. Easy to work on though.

  • @edwardjbarton
    @edwardjbarton 11 месяцев назад +3

    My daughter ran my 97 C280 into a Jersey barrier at 70 after hitting standing water on the interstate at night and walked away with bruises. I prefer my 123’s for maintenance but will echo Pierre’s comments that the 202 is a good, modern rig with airbags and antilock brakes with little to go wrong.

    • @Andrew-zv4fm
      @Andrew-zv4fm 11 месяцев назад

      I am glad your daughter was able to walk away. In the 90s (late 90s), my dad had a 1997 C280 that I leaned to drive on and when I passed my driver's test, I would use said car to drive around in with my friends.
      They were solid cars. I can't talk on reliability because we got rid of the car after the lease was up. :-(
      With hindsight being 20/20 my family wished we kept the car.

    • @seanschaefer5233
      @seanschaefer5233 11 месяцев назад +1

      Finally the W202 gets some love. My '95 C280 is a champ! I've owned it for 29 years and would never give it up. It will be in the family til the end. Yeah, it has needed some work but I did it all myself. The M104 is a great engine.

  • @stephengoodwin6403
    @stephengoodwin6403 5 месяцев назад

    Great video.I was able to do most maintenance on my '72 4.5 280 SE.Granted,a 280 S 6 cyl would be easier,but the 4.5 wasn;t that bad

  • @jcb928
    @jcb928 11 месяцев назад +2

    W163 should have made the list. Tons of pick a part availability & other than the trans conductor plate not many issues the average guy couldn't figure out with help of the online forums.

  • @blacksunlight5371
    @blacksunlight5371 9 месяцев назад

    Good choice thanks !

  • @Andrew-zv4fm
    @Andrew-zv4fm 11 месяцев назад

    Great and informative video.

  • @petercollingwood522
    @petercollingwood522 11 месяцев назад +3

    If you are outside the USA, the W123 200 I think is a pretty simple and reliable vehicle. Not quite as simple as the diesels perhaps but none the less a very good basic car with better highway cruising ability than a 240D.

  • @DsFk80s
    @DsFk80s 11 месяцев назад +3

    I thought the m103 fits in this category. But ok appreciate this video👍

    • @joloboy1167
      @joloboy1167 11 месяцев назад

      I don't know. I am about to buy a W126 300 SEL with the m103.981 so I hope so

    • @alexandrebeinotti3359
      @alexandrebeinotti3359 11 месяцев назад

      M103 is a great engine and easy to work on

    • @DsFk80s
      @DsFk80s 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@joloboy1167 Actually there is another video from Pierre under the title 5 best values in classic mercedes and he mentions the w126 with M103 motor that is easy to work on. So don't worry .bro

    • @joloboy1167
      @joloboy1167 11 месяцев назад

      @@DsFk80s thanks man!

    • @arslna7731
      @arslna7731 Месяц назад

      @@DsFk80s😂😂😂

  • @brienmacgearailt7801
    @brienmacgearailt7801 10 месяцев назад

    300TD W124, 300D W124, 420 SEL W126, E300 W124, W201 190E. So far the 190E is the easiest to maintain and to be honest my favorite car.

  • @Albdentist
    @Albdentist 11 месяцев назад

    I know this sounds awful, but to get to say 100k subscribers other utubers believe the fastest way to get there is free give always ..something simple …like your fav 3/8 ratchet or a favorite garage tool that really helps and is useful…
    I want this channel to grow exponentially…and for you to be compensated for your time and knowledge…
    Thank you Pierre

    • @gotham61
      @gotham61 11 месяцев назад +2

      It's got nothing to do with giving away freebies. If he wants to grow, he needs to improve and clean up his presentation. Unfortunately lately it's been getting worse. Who wants to watch a surly guy in a filthy oil stained shirt who keeps picking at his face with his filthy hands, and who just talks, rarely actually showing you anything? It might as well be an audio only podcast.
      He already challenged his viewers to get to 50K by the end of the year in June 2021.

  • @dan.man3000
    @dan.man3000 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks, great vid! What about the mid/late 80s M102 engines in a W124? Heard about head gasket issues and premature (single)timing chain wear… but apart from that? 🤔

    • @dmitrynikitin4259
      @dmitrynikitin4259 10 месяцев назад

      That's exactly what I have - a carburetor M102 with a single chain. I measured the chain stretch and watching the coolant level etc. to monitor the gasket. I didn't do complex repairs/overhauls on it, I am not even a professional mechanic. But I replaced the valve stem seals, removed the fan, the water pump... It doesn't need valve adjustment, I like that. I like that it doesn't have fuel injection, as I heard it's not easy to diagnose. The only thing that I found is difficult (or rather unpleasant) so far is removing the oil sump - you need to lift the engine for that, and therefore the filter case, disconnect exhaust etc. I use it as a daily driver, starts very easily at 0 degrees Celsius. No serious problems so far.

  • @earlspoint
    @earlspoint 11 месяцев назад

    What is your thoughts on the M117.967 used on the 89 560sl.

  • @peterjanvanbijnen226
    @peterjanvanbijnen226 11 месяцев назад +3

    that is very easy the OM engines the diesel engines from mercedes benz for instance the 615 616 617 or in my opinion even a little better an Om 601 602 603

    • @joloboy1167
      @joloboy1167 11 месяцев назад

      I would say that you can't compare them. The 601-603 were made with the idea of a powerful, yet efficient engine. the later 606 TD would prove more efficient. a 615-617 was made with the idea of being indestructable, and that means simple mechanics but worse fuel consumption, whilst the 603-601 were more complicated, but still indestructable.

  • @aztimer2
    @aztimer2 11 месяцев назад

    I own a 1998 e320 Sedan, would that be considered a keeper? I've had it for about two years and not a lot of maintenance so far. I just wish the paint was in better shape.

  • @harryloibl5183
    @harryloibl5183 6 месяцев назад

    Hi Pierre I’m thinking of getting a 1991 300D w124, I’m wondering what’s your thoughts on this one please thanks buddy 😊

    • @mercedesclassicswithpierre1753
      @mercedesclassicswithpierre1753  6 месяцев назад

      Hello, @harryloibl5183 and thank YOU so much for your question(s), we want to answer you as quickly as possible.
      By signing in our Patreon www.patreon.com/thomaspolk page and making a donation of $10 your are assured of a 24 hour email response from Pierre.
      If you are already a $10 member please mention along with your question.

  • @losrevolucionarios8858
    @losrevolucionarios8858 11 месяцев назад

    What about the OM615 of the W123 200D?

    • @joloboy1167
      @joloboy1167 11 месяцев назад

      he mentioned the 240d from teh W123 and shortly mentioned why he didn't take the OM615 200D as it was inferiour in some way to the 240 D of the same era.

  • @bryanwaruhiu
    @bryanwaruhiu 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Pierre,
    If you were to assess more than five Mercedes Benz models for straightforwardness/degree of difficulty of engine maintenance, where would you place the M130 and the M117 engines?
    I am asking about those two engines because I have a W108 280SE and a C126 560SEC.

    • @mercedesclassicswithpierre1753
      @mercedesclassicswithpierre1753  11 месяцев назад

      Hello, @bryanwaruhiu and thank YOU so much for your question(s), we want to answer you as quickly as possible.
      By signing in our Patreon www.patreon.com/thomaspolk page and making a donation of $10 your are assured of a 24 hour email response from Pierre.
      If you are already a $10 member please mention along with your question.

  • @joloboy1167
    @joloboy1167 11 месяцев назад

    How about a w126 300SE european market m103.981? and for my dad a facelift W212 e220 diesel bluetec

  • @michaeljoiner2503
    @michaeljoiner2503 11 месяцев назад

    190D 2.5 and turbo
    All the way!

  • @stevesmythe8556
    @stevesmythe8556 11 месяцев назад

    My 250s engine is bone simple. I'm surprised it didn't make the list.

  • @michaelcurry1054
    @michaelcurry1054 11 месяцев назад

    Hello PIERRE can you plezes help me ? I’m looking at a 450SLC IT NEEDS HELP BUT LOOKS OK ! MY QUESTION IS ARE THEY GOOD CARS ?? THANKYOU PIERRE FOR YOUR GREAT WORK !!! THANKYOU

  • @kzx5245
    @kzx5245 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, I saw someone selling a swapped 190E with a M111 2.0 and a 722.6 is it a good engine and transmission or better than the original?

    • @martinsvensson6884
      @martinsvensson6884 11 месяцев назад +1

      Best trans ever made.

    • @kzx5245
      @kzx5245 11 месяцев назад

      @@martinsvensson6884 What about the engine?

    • @martinsvensson6884
      @martinsvensson6884 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@kzx5245 Never had that engine. But it was in all sorts of models including the w124 and w210. Never heard of any reliability issues with them. Maybe not the smoothest engines though. A bit industrial. Just like its predecessor. But had good fuel economy.

    • @kzx5245
      @kzx5245 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@martinsvensson6884 Thanks for the info

  • @alaingillot4718
    @alaingillot4718 9 месяцев назад

    If you get an older car , Haynes or chilton manuals are not that bad , a lot of good infos there . Some errors , but few . So ebay for a used manual . The 115 cars where best , followed by 123 s .

  • @vintage76vipergreenBeetle
    @vintage76vipergreenBeetle 11 месяцев назад +1

    👍

  • @prakashnarismulu3332
    @prakashnarismulu3332 8 месяцев назад

    123 M110 280E ?

  • @bobyk87
    @bobyk87 6 месяцев назад

    "smart people" seem to think a mechanic's intelligence quotient is 50 or something; great mechanics channel not only for "Mercedes"

  • @jmstar3670
    @jmstar3670 7 месяцев назад

    You lost me on w202 that car was an absolute nightmare even in it's day. As far as breaking down it was always some vaccum actuated party failure be it windows or locks them neutral switches wiring harnesses. I never worked on it based on my age at the time but geez it had Gremlins. I will say though it's still on the road today and once the kinks were resolved it seemed to stop asking for stuff

  • @ElegantLife_
    @ElegantLife_ 11 месяцев назад +1

    W210?? E430?

  • @M3jet
    @M3jet 11 месяцев назад +1

    What? No om606? I’m shocked

    • @Altanox
      @Altanox 11 месяцев назад +1

      Literally the first car he talks about

    • @M3jet
      @M3jet 11 месяцев назад

      Umm. No. He mentions first the OM 616. I’m talking about the om606. The 606 was a straight-6 and the first 4 valve twin cam. In the U.S. it was put in the 95 W124 E300 Diesel. Now a legendary engine that tuners favor in turbo tune to make big horsepower.

    • @twntwrs
      @twntwrs 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@M3jetthe one with the legendary stuck glow plugs.

    • @Altanox
      @Altanox 11 месяцев назад

      I read your comment too fast; fast like the OM606 :D
      indeed, he did not mention it. Maybe it's not that easy?@@M3jet

  • @albertcasazza9697
    @albertcasazza9697 11 месяцев назад +1

    Where would you rate the 2005 or 2006 W211 CDI ?

    • @tipr8739
      @tipr8739 11 месяцев назад +1

      There is a video on the channel about modern mercedes and basically they are too advanced. The fact that you need thousand dollar diagnostics machines is basically a deal killer.

    • @AlienLivesMatter
      @AlienLivesMatter 11 месяцев назад

      Good luck getting replacement chipsets

    • @joloboy1167
      @joloboy1167 11 месяцев назад

      I would like to own a W211 400CDI or a E55

  • @ace7821
    @ace7821 11 месяцев назад

    No Mercedes is easy to maintain. This is a complete lie.

  • @guiljones2385
    @guiljones2385 3 дня назад

    Thanks!