Lumix S5ii | 20-60mm | kit lens or no kit lens?
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- 0:00 Intro
0:32 Lens Overview
2:14 Who Should Buy It?
3:11 Photography
3:42 Close Up Ability
4:30 Flare
5:53 Content Creators and Vlogging
7:55 Film and Video
10:30 So, should you buy it? 
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Hello everyone! I recorded this video a while back so I should say the Lumix 24 mm does finally exist even though it isn’t exactly easy to get a hold of yet. Even so the Sigma 24 mm should be pretty good as well.
In Australia 2024, the kit lens is actually FREE if you buy a new S5ii and you can go and sell it on used market for $200-300
I use the S5 for personal, not professional use.
This 20-60 lens is very easy to use. It is true that the image quality is not very good when zoomed in, and there is some flare when a bright light source like the sun is close by, but the portability and build quality are very good, and the fact that it can capture a wider angle than a standard zoom lens is really great.
When I go out to shoot, I use the 20-60 lens for default, and switch to a single focal length lens to pursue image quality when necessary.
Since I also shoot video, the only thing I really miss is the lack of bokeh when the camera is set to f/5.6.
Its a really unique kit lens. I wish more companies would push the envelope to make some cool stuff like this!
Great video. This is great combo, since I got this, I dumped canon R6, this is that good. I use it for family activities (nothing pro), this great grab-n-go combo.
And now we have an 18mm, 24mm, both f/1.8, and the 16-35 f4. Having said that, I still use the 20-60 sometimes, just because I have always been really happy with how that looks on my S5. I have gotten some incredibly good content using that lens. Plus, the auto focus on the S5 seems to work best with that lens. And with dual ISO, the slower aperture is not that much of a concern, at least on my S5. Also, I'm a narrative filmmaker, so I will take that lens out in really bad weather, because if I mess it up, it's not that big of a deal. :-) but overall, I find that it does a really good job. I think for the price, it's really kind of essential for most people to have in their kit. At least to me. ;)
Here in the UK the kit lens is also sold with the 50mm as part of a kit. I use 20mm at f3.5 a lot for establishing interior shots, the 24mm comes in handy for groups of 2 or 3 people etc, 90% of the time I'll swap out to the 50mm for anything past 24mm (rarely use 35mm)
I could see myself just using this lens for outdoor events when I really need to work fast and not change lenses. So this combo works for me
Yea exactly! A fast wide angle is handy sometimes but not always necessary. I think you’d love the 85mm too! I can’t wait to get a hold of that lens
I'll tell you what the conundrum is with this lens. It's the 20-60mm range + size + weight. Also, a lot of reviewers have by in large liked this lens and rated it as "one of the best kit lenses," etc. When you look at the S/L mount zoom options for the S5II, they're all heavier than sin. You can't justify the 16-35mm when you have this lens. I've tried to. You have mixed emotions about buying a 35mm or 50mm when you've got this lens unless they threw in the 50mm. I'd really like to get the 35mm, but again, I possess that range option, perhaps not as bright or sharp an option. A 24-70mm seems unnecessary given the weight and the range limitation at 70mm, also given you have in your hand a lens with a 60mm range. The 24-105mm could work but it's still heavy and generally like unenthusiastically by reviewers. DPReviews samples were not awe inspiring either. The Sigma options are equally frustrating in terms of weight and quirky issues. I've basically returned all the lenses I acquired (16-35 Pro and 70-200mm Pro F4) and will ride at least for now with the 20-60 and 50mm. There's always www.lensrentrals.com. I still might get the 35mm or 24mm, since I shoot the latter range most of the time. Great video!
Honestly this makes a lot of sense to me haha. Its very tough. Maybe something like the 14-28 and/or 28-200 makes more sense as a base lens thats still small enough or even the 28-70 from sigma! Personally I do love some of the prime lenses but yea having a zoom that covers the same range feels a little redundant but the blur, when needed is pretty nice.
The closest minimum focus distance is actually at 26mm
So when I bought the S5 and had it for a handful of days before returning it for the A7s3, I really liked the lens. Its a really good focal length indeed. At at 20mm it want to terribly slow shooting FF.
Excellent content!!
Which camera body did you use for this video?
Did you even read the title before clicking?
I ordered a 24-105 for my s1..both used got pretty decent deals on both.. hyped I dont think I will get it with the lens I honestly but it could be a great lens to do low budget or personal stuff for fun,....now idk what im gonna do when I am able to get this camera lol oh and what did you shoot this with ? the parts when you were talking outside....what do you think of the sigma primes and zooms for the l mount? when it comes to zooms I want something that can focus have way decent
I got some fun vintage Nikon zooms to play around with but I can’t speak for how sigma lenses perform with AF tbh. Haven’t owned any yet
@@RhettThompsonFilm nice! Ya I have adapted my canon fds to my camera its so freaking cool
In the uk the S5ii is selling for £2399 with the 20-60 and the 50 1.8 with a £300 trade in deal so the body and two lenses for £2099! Crazy good deal. i think it runs till end Month but in any case Panasonic always run deals.
Dude, every time I see an S5 video from you I want it. Question would you say it's worth getting the S1 over the S5? I'm not going to use to shoot myself so the flip screen is a non issue for me and honestly I'd say I would prefer the tilting screen over the full articulation screen honestly. BUT, pound for pound is the S1 worth the extra couple hundred $100's? I have seen a few S1's used for around the same price as the S5 and sometimes less with the video upgrade. Would that be worth it to you?
I will answer your question with another question. How often do you plan on using Vlog?
@@RhettThompsonFilm never! Lol if I decide to use this camera to shoot myself I connect it to my desk monitor which is what I do with my Olympus and GH5 even if it has a flip screen.
@@AlpacoFilms no I mean the Varicam Log profile
@@RhettThompsonFilm ooohhh!!! I’m not actually sure! I am primarily interested in the photo features, but I suppose 80/20 I’d use it to film stuff. Most like a strictly narrative films if I do use it.
My R6 just overheated on me and I found myself looking panasonic S5 videos 😔...
I was curious about this lens, I love the idea of having 20mm available in a kit lens. Thanks for the video!
Panasonic’s cameras have never ever overheated for me! The S5 is amazing even though it’s got 30 min time limits in 4k 10 bit
@@RhettThompsonFilm Indeed, it really looks like a great camera. Even the autofocus doesn't seem that bad at they say...it's tempting...
@@RamonLinares Any question you got ask away! Im here to help
@@RhettThompsonFilm thanks a lot, Rhett. I just ordered the S5 with the kit lens from Amazon (they are having a promotion and I got it for 1800€). I just subscribed to your channel and I am looking forward to watching more videos about this camera 😀
@@RamonLinares I plan on making a lot of content for this camera so welcome to my subs!
I'm thinking this feels like more of a tweener than maybe it really is. It's not at the pro level, so you say eh, I really don't want it all that bad. But it's hardly unacceptable, and since you're effectively paying $300 for it new you're getting a pretty good deal. Now you can get primes for your serious work and you're covered for casual stuff and when you need the convenience. I haven't sat down with charts and graphs to see what you could do with the $300 you save _not_ getting it but I think it's worthwhile.
I love the 20-60 kit, but I really want the 1.8 primes...you can't even get them right now!
Yeah I think I shot the before the 24mm was out but it’s effectively impossible to get ahold of.
I found that it's vignetting when I open it up and go wide. Top right and bottom left, I can see the opening or whatever that is. Do I have my camera set wrong? I have the S5 with the 20-60 (p.s. I hate this lens)
Sell it
I always film with my 12-40 2.8 olympus pro lense on my gh5 so stopping down this one to 5.6 would not change my filming in terms of depth of field as it is the same. The olympus probably has better optical quality tough.
I think it does, this lens is only alright or maybe a bit above average
Even with 14+ stop of dynamic range, you manage to blow out your highlights...congrats
I didn’t realize the eight bit ZV one had 14+ stops of dynamic range. You learn something new every day!
I hear you though dude. My favorite RUclips videos and movies are the ones with the best exposed highlights too. I tried watching Citizen Kane the other day and they had a scene with some blown out highlights and I had to turn it off
Lmao….. Rhett, I think you may have gone way over their head on that one! 🤦♂️ 😂
I used to have this lens. It could be the best kit lens ever but the flare is unacceptable. Lack of good quality inexpensive lenses with good flare resistance was the key reason I sold Panasonic s5 and moved to Nikon z6 and Sony a7c.
I suppose. People talk about the lack of options on L mount but I just don’t see it personally but of course Sony has more.
Panasonic prioritizes video stuff so I find myself lacking for much myself (besides the AF of course)
I am now tempted to get panas s5II with the new excellent panasonic 100mm macro as it is much smaller than any other 100mm ff macro lens plus sigma 14mm f4 - another very good lens and flare resistant 🙂 @@RhettThompsonFilm