I regularly see a dozen companies repost the same jobs over and over. Canonical is notorious for doing this to the point that there's hardly any applicant at ths point. If I applied to one of these and later realised the games they are playing there would be zero chance of me ever wanting to work there.
I applied to cannonical and they were very dissapointed that I don't use Ubuntu for personal use, and that's the reason they gave for not wanting to hire me
@@cody_codes_youtube there is an company I have been sent a lot of spamming reports to Libkedin. They are opening more than 30 positions all over the Europe everyday. In Workable they have more than 10 for daily. Other companies could not listed because of them. LinkedIn need to work for this like spamming jobs.
Yeah their job postings are a joke. I applied one time this year and they wanted know how good I was in Highschool?! What does that have to do with anything?
I got a mail with the standard "Thank you for applying, but we have chosen a different candidate for this role..." from a company yesterday, I also saw them repost the exact same job a few hours later. I guess noone is good enough to work there...
Well so they “hire” someone else and immediately fire him so they need to repost the job again. So I will say that NOT no one is good enough to work there. It is that anyone they are hiring recently is only good for 1 sec before they get fired. 😂
A company I applied for did this to me. I applied for a lab tech job. They emailed me and said they filled the position. Then they emailed me the next day with the job still posted, and said that it was on “hold”
Job hunting is a depressing game. Over the few months I've been looking for work and these videos have been a great perspective. I found that the more I keep looking, the more desperate I become to get out of that loop of looking because it is so utterly exhausting applying through job after job.
Yeah you can’t do that 100% of the time. That’s a recipe for burnout and also quality going down on your applications going out. Take care of yourself! Good luck!
@@cody_codes_youtube This is why i appreciate my current position. Maybe its not paid enough for the job and i could have more, but i have stable contract by now and have a position and knowledge in the company so i wont be laid off for no reason and i do not have to look through jobs. In Poland what i have noticed as i tried to apply recently for something with better salary its like 70% of postings are ghost jobs.
Exactly. I know how it feels cos i been looking for jobs since January and stopped in July knowing that it had been a total waste of my time and energy. Then by pure luck i got a position last month working in a company that i would never have worked for if the market had not been so brutal. Now companies know that and they make use of it to screw the most out of their staff. This is really discouraging.
Networking is the only way to get a job these days. I talked to a lot of hiring managers and executives who simply said they go with current employee referrals and people they personally know. The external job postings are only for legal liability to show that there was no discrimination. Its a game, so know how to play the game.
@@TheOtomo exactly. That’s always been the preferred route. Now that there is a deluge of applications spamming all the external postings, referrals are 100x more valuable because no one wants to deal with that
@@cody_codes_youtube Preferred? Now it is the only way to get hired unless you have some very specialized skill or prior work history that fits exactly what the company is looking for.
If you don't have extensive experience in a field, or a bunch of work buddies with connections, then you've got no "network". People just love to post the most heard about, impractical advice, ever.
I've been ghosted so much that it's very hard to remember the job description when I get contacted 1-2 months later for a technical interview, they even removed the job posting from their own website not just other job websites. At that point I am just soul crushed, I did like 10 interviews with a company for 5 different roles in the last month, and they didn't even notice this, I got the same people interviewing me and they either pretend they don't remember me or just simply don't.
I had the same thing, was interviewed twice for the same position almost a year apart and the interviewer didn't even realize. And rejected me again haha.
Yeah, I applied to a bunch of positions in one company and then I had to do 10 different 1 hour long extremely hard online assessments for it! But the cherry on top, they were all the same assessment (with different numbers). I'm wondering if they have like hundreds of applicants with perfect scores in their database. And they are just wondering if everyone is an expert on Bayesian statistics and IMO level math problems.
Great video. Took me a while to realize all the LinkedIn posts were ghosting me and give up. I’m just past the 1 year mark unemployed (software engineer/manager) and trying to accept that I can’t beat my head against the wall forever (lots of interviews but no offers). Seems like after 25 years doing this, the industry is just done with me. But I don’t know what to do instead. Like I seriously think I have to just give up and go apply at just some retail store or Starbucks or something.
Same is happening to me - 20+ years of experience (enterprise user experience) with no to very little response from job postings. I've had interviews but they haven't led to offers (rare when looking back). Using the online job boards have a marginal effect at best. I think the market is done with me but not the industry. The next move for me is to move beyond this marketplace and into fractional leadership work. If you're not familiar with the term I would recommend looking into it. There are great slack communities surrounding this emerging trend.
For an IT job when you are over 40 there are only 2 choices for you. 1. Just make your own company from your experience. 2 Retire:( its sad but this industry expiration date is very early
Definitely a lot of ghost jobs out there. I got so desperate to just get ANY software engineering interview that I catered my resume and cover letter to make myself sound like a unicorn candidate even if I didn't have the skills that matched the position. I did it just to see if I would get an interview. Over more than 50 different positions spanned across different companies and not a single application was proceeded to the next step or a follow up of any sort.
A HR recruiter told me in an interview that they advertise for jobs they might or might not get the hiring budget for in the next financial year. In that case only one out of the four advertised roles was actually real. So I was interviewing for a job that did not exist but might open up in the future.
I remember I landed a good job after graduating in 2020, I ascended the ladder very fast, until the 2022 crisis. Then I realized that companies usually try to look someone to blame out for the bad situations. I passed a really bad time in the second half of 2022 until they decided to lay off half of the team. I have been unemployed since 2023, and yeah, I have passed through a lot, ghost jobs and job ghosting after many interviews. I used to feel frustrated but now that I see that this is happening in general, it makes me feel better. Still hoping for things to solve and stabilize.
I’m sorry you’re going through that! Yeah I have faith things are starting to turn around, it’s just the process of job hunting is making everything worse
The sad reality is that for every job listing there are thousands of applications. By the time companies start sorting through apps they are likely to hire somebody before they get to you. sometimes things arent what they seem. A previous company i worked for would make public job listings to comply with state mandates but would never review the applications they received through job portals, the would only talk to stablished 3rd party recruiters or recommendations made by employees to fill the roles. Every person in that company either came in through the same 3rd party recruiter or had some sort of relationship to someone who worked there. They would even joke that the biggest challenge to getting in the company was figuring out how to apply.
I came back from seven years working a good job in the Netherlands to find myself completely unwanted by any employer, ever. Ten months of hard searching, applying, revising, etc. Two master's degrees, good universities, sixteen years overall trade experience,. Doesn't mean shit. Thought i was crazy. Good to see other people are having this suicidal experience of utter hopelesness with me. Thank you for reminding me I'm not alone.
@@cody_codes_youtube I was a senior content writer for a polar travel company. Not necessarily looking to stay in that trade forever, but really shocked at the lack of response I'm getting from any of the countless companies I've applied to. I hope you're right about it changing soon!
Excellent video! You listed all the reasons I also know for ghost job postings. Unfortunately, unless the government makes it illegal for companies to post ghost jobs specifically, I see zero methods of getting companies to stop this vile practice. My prediction is that most companies will freeze hiring until January 2025. After not working for so many months, all we can do is just hang on for dear life.
I wish you the best. Election freeze and agricultural problems (the rising temperatures are starting to affect yields of key crops) are going to be rough so hang in there!
But that sounds a lot like regulation, which is "job killing" according to Republicans. Keep voting to let businesses do whatever they want, and this is the end result.
Ghost jobs should seriously be illegal because it’s like you’re making a mockery and a joke out of people who are actually looking for a job. And for that matter these companies are also making a joke out of themselves because it’s gonna make people not trust them and wanna work for them because it’s a scam and is dishonest and disrespectful.
Personally I'm not going to use job boards anymore, I just started subscribing to companies' job newsletter. Edit: I have no idea why my replies are not showing up, but what I usually do is go to the company site, go to their career page, search for my desired position, and it usually asks me if I'd like to subscribe to this job position. Would be great if all companies had a feature to subscribe to a specific position.
@@mjg239 I'd suggest going to their main website, and under careers after you've search for a job they usually give you the option to subscribe. It's also possible they have a more straight forward method.
Job ghosting is rough. I've done several interviews over the weeks and employers just don't care enough to let you know if a position is filled or you didn't make the cut. It's like maybe a minute of time.
I don't think you mentioned what I call "the McKinsey Special", in which companies keep posting-closing-reposting the same job but keep dropping the salary and benefits just to see how low they can go.
Got let go in May and had a junior designer take my position. 6 years of work for nothing. No one will hire me even with a good portfolio and 15 years experience. Maybe if I work for $25K a year with no benefits I'll get somewhere but NYC is brutal.
In the EU: Greece Spain Portugal you can rent 1BR or even 2BR apartment in the city for $1k z month. People make $30k a year and that’s enough for living. You are too expensive in new remote work era if you live in NYC
I live in New York, too, and have also been having trouble finding a good job. I’ve applied to many places and have only gotten a few interviews and no callbacks after. It’s extremely difficult here.
I lived this hellscape last year, and also for a (thankfully) brief time this year. This conduct is atrocious, and it should be illegal. As well, the platforms that host these postings need to take some accountability and ensure that their tools mitigate the chances of this happening, such as posting the outcome of any posting and accepting feedback and ratings from applicants after a period of time (Where you ghosted? yes | no).
And maybe let the applicant know if the employer clicked on your application for the sake of 2-way visibility. There's a lot of interactivity and granularity the recruiter does that can be reported back to applicants. Bring the back-office forward.
This is happening to my husband and I. We don't work in IT (I hope to before I die), but it's just been one disappearing act after another for employers that we've applied to, and even interviewed with. My feeling is that MOST employers out there, regardless of the field, are not actively hiring. There's a lot of instability in the world right now and in government. I think after the election and even more so after the Russia-Ukraine and Hamas/Israel conflicts come to a conclusion, things will settle down and the economy will pick up. Unfortunately for people like my husband and I, we may not financially make it until then.
Don't vote Harris if you want the economy to improve. That's a fact. She states what she will do to improve the economy, fix the border, etc......some people forget she and Biden have destroyed everything over the past 4 years, so she is going to fix her own destruction? People can't really be that stupid, even if they don't like Trump.
@@cody_codes_youtube Right now we're working in packing positions, some of the most mind-numbing work I've ever done. Definitely stress-free, lol. But they micro-manage more than any company I've ever worked at.
I've been experiencing this since the pandemic.. Had a promising job at Northrup Grumman and like many other companies, I think Northrup figured out they didn't need to have as many workers as they did pre-covid. I can't find consistent, good paying work anywhere in the south bay, California. It's ridiculous expected experience and degrees required to do something simple or outrageously low paying, non-life-supporting entry level jobs that wouldn't even cover rent, let alone groceries, gas, insurance. Drive a 22 year old truck and going no where fast. What happened to companies willing to train someone new to the industry and help them grow within the company? So frustrating... I would be under a bridge right now if it wasn't for my family.
I’m so sorry to hear that. I feel that frustration of companies not caring for the long term growth of their employees. I hope things turn around for you!
I checked in on a job opportunity that I applied to 9 months ago. That job was a six month contract position. They could have hired someone months after posting this job and the contract would have still be completed by now. The job listing is still open.
I was laid off in February 2024, still looking for a job. I've stopped telling people when I get interviews because ones I have gone through wound up being ghost jobs. Frustrating to get excited over a role and then finding out said role is non-existent.
You missed another reason why they do this. They are legally obligated to post the job so they can then claim there are no qualified candidates and then hire outside of the US. Check out the H-1B requirements for sponsorship.
@@cody_codes_youtube From the H1B gov website: The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities from the U.S. workforce by authorizing the temporary employment of qualified individuals who are not otherwise authorized to work in the United States. www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/immigration/h1b
Wish the presidential candidates were asked questions about this and what they’d do to prevent it. It’s so deceptive to say our job market is thriving when so many of us end up wasting time looking for credible positions just to be ghosted
Another issue is people submitting resumes for jobs they have no intention of ever doing or for a job they are not in any way qualified for or suited to. Just so they can meet requirements for fulling their unemployment benefits, or worse they're doing a literal spray and pray approach. Thus clogging up the system for job recruiters.
I am living Canada and I had interviewed for 4 or 5 positions from a really famous telecom company…and none of them really turned into a job offer… for each position I was interviewed for, there are at least 2 rounds of interviews, a case study, a presentation, and then they say they have no budget 🤑what a process
@@cody_codes_youtube thank you for your reply. I am ok if there is more than 1 round of interviews and no job offer, I can take it since job hunting is time consuming. But I assume the really problem is that the big corp management team now longer treat employees or potential employees as HUMAN anymore. The only thing they can see is just numbers on the financial statement, without understanding the product, the business, the people…when was the last time you have a face to face job interview rather than just online? I have been in the job market for about 8/9years and I don’t even remember the last time I was properly trained… i just been used as a printer. Hope you will have a new video talking about this someday 🫡
AI scan/test your application/resume/cover letter to make sure your skillset and experience show up well, as with the decline in HR staffing, they simply must use AI because they cannot read through all the apps they get.
@@cody_codes_youtube Yeap. The employers have CHOSEN to go to AI for filtering out applicants. There's absolutely nothing wrong/illegal/unethical in using AI to your benefit.
If I saw this video in 2023 I wouldn't believe it. But after "failing" on 18 process on the last 3 months with empty excuses like: "The position was canceled / put on hold", "We value your strong technical skill, but you lack passion with technology X, Y and Z" I finally understand that there are something CREEPY happening on job market in 2024!
I understand how people make this argument but I haven’t seen it play out in the Job market. I’ve only seen teams get disappointed when doing the overseas options. It’s really hard to work fast with people in such dramatic time zone differences. Despite the cost and skill
I've mentioned in cover letters I prefer in-office settings. I don't elaborate that the reason is that it's a career switch, but it may help my chances.
A way to take down these ghost jobs would be for the job boards to allow comments. People could comment "this is a reposting of a job I applied to a month ago" and "I work at this company and I know it's a fake post." LinkedIn should allow you to block companies. I kept seeing posts at companies that I knew were terrible to their employees and I didn't want to apply, but not only could I not block them, LinkedIn would email me telling me to apply. LinkedIn doesn't care about the job seeker - they make money from the employers and they are collecting data.
I have seen companies reposting the same job again and again, I'm convinced they are fishing and waiting for the unicorn, they are even wasting the time of agencies too. What I don't understand is why go to the ends of getting a headcount approved which must be difficult now but then not be serious about filling the job? Or it could be the headcount is not even approved - I had this myself, got an "offer" only for head office to refuse to rubber-stamp the hiring decision.
I sometimes think the process of opening a job requires isn’t as difficult as some companies make it out to be. I’ve also seen headcounts get retracted too
If you keep seeing the same job from the same company over and over it can mean, they hired someone and that person was either fired or quit so they are looking to fill the position again, trust me this happens more than you might think.
Even inside large tech companies, the internal job boards are full of ghost jobs. Jobs that change level or are forgotten… I also think that some managers are just trying to get a sense of who is interested internally to move to their teams.
The worst part about this market is that almost everyone that has actually responded were conartists trying to steal personal information with interview scams... of the 150 resumes i sent out i got 3 real interviews and 5 scams. 2 of the scams i didnt even apply for they were given my resume by indeed.
This just happen to my friend started out as were going to do 1 hour phone interview to emailing back saying hiring manger wants to see her. Then set up appointment then 24 hours later they canceled it. This company is just doing what you're saying spot on.
While I was listening to your (this) video I was interacting with a small shop through Indeed messaging. The HR person responded to my initial application by saying they were looking for someone with specific experience. I almost just thanked them and called it a done deal. Instead I responded to let them know I did have that experience, just not in a professional capacity. I also asked if they had seen my cover letter (which addressed this experience). They responded that they had missed my cover letter and would send my information on to the next level. I just want to say that if you do get the chance to interact with someone, make the most of it. It can be easy to get discouraged and not take advantage of every opportunity after being worn down in the job search market for a long time.
Companies who doesn't need employees post ghost jobs to gather information on the talent pool, ironically they either have internal hire on mind or they simply keep it floating to gather data.
man I just hate how we’ve all just accepted that this is how society works, when it doesn’t have to be this way! A degree is pretty much useless at the moment, school just gets you into debt. and “basic” entry level jobs that are essential to our everyday life/society don’t pay a livable wage! and you need capital to start a company of your own. with such advancements in technology, industrialization, and information, why we as a species choose to continue to live in a broken society? how good would it be to work to make the world a better place? create jobs and improve society while also working towards repairing our planet!
The main issue, especially in IT, is that for years, they hired anyone with some coding skills, even if they didn’t have a degree. As a result, the market is now saturated.
I think this is partially true. The inherit nature of software is the bulk of need for coding is NEW things being built. Like startups and new project inside big companies. VC money and capital to fund these projects has dried up a lot in the past 2-3 years. The hunt and feeding frenzy has gone away, and now the market is more representative of the actual need of the skillset.
They want attention is what I strongly feel. This gives them free marketing of their services to lots of people, competitors. The resumes and candidates data can be further utilised. Also, the assignments shared can be used with making some tweaks in it. Basically, fake/ghost jobs are ruining the job market and wasting countless hours of applicants.
Do you think ghost jobs are much more common with remote work than with hybrid and in-office positions? As a senior software engineer, do you think my chances will greatly improve if I start applying to in-office jobs and plan to relocate upon accepting an offer?
Let’s be real, there is a trend for people coming back to office. There are a lot of variables that contribute to that. And also: of course it’ll improve your chances because it’s expanding your job pool. But the question is by how much and how flexible you are with your living situation. Moving for work used to be super common.
But if it is a ghost job, do companies follow through and do even one round of interviews or phone screenings? The cost is to the application reading the post & doing whatever the digital application is.
@@pythonlibrarian224 Depends on their goals, right? If they want to go fishing, they can collect resumes and just hang out. If they want to project growth of their company, they do absolutely nothing.
What about getting every company to disclose how many poisons they are looking to fill and how many adverts they are putting out. Then some sort of fine for ghost jobs and manipulating the market.
I think that’s some of right thinking. There would need to be some level of allowances for mistakes. I’ve seen startups go go go and then suddenly funding falls through and those jobs were dependent on that
Been laid off since August of last year . Havnt found anything . Burning through my savings - bills keep comin but I’m sitting here with no job . I worked in technical support for over 20 years and BOOM ! Dont even have medical insurance now .
@@cody_codes_youtube it doesn’t help to be 57 either . I went to a job interview in September at a liquor store and the person there pretty much knew she had no plan to hire me , it was about half of what I make and part time but I went and it was bullshit. I applied at target and yea, they offered me a job in cedar rapids Iowa but I live in Texas . I applied at all kinds of monster jobs online all kinds of other online job source and multiple other Target jobs which I am constantly turned down for . I am considering going to Hawaii while I still have money in my accounts . If I’m going to be homeless , I want to be in a place that’s warm and near the ocean .
Not trying to be mean...i'm sure the tech industry is in a real jam. Why not start a business? Advertise what you're good at to the world and we are happy to pay you for the services we need!
@@NerdlyCNC that’s not mean at all. It comes down to comfort and some capability. Saying “advertise to the world” isn’t something everyone is skilled with, or comfortable with. Not everyone likes the idea of hustling for contracts and customers. In fact it gives many anxiety. I LOVE IT, but many just simply want a job that has security and structure
@@cody_codes_youtube yeah i understand. i wish more people had to start a business for a year before going out into the job market. i think it would dramatically shape the expectation from all sides.
@@cody_codes_youtube They maybe not interested in what you offer. Also, they may be interviewing other candidates at the same time and would to pursue them. It could be a lot of reasons. I do believe a little etiquette is nice from the company, but not all people are nice. My experience (40 years in the electronic industry) tells me not to get hung up on a company or feeling rejected. You will find a job, use the down time to improve yourself.
@@cody_codes_youtubeHere a story to maybe clarify: I was part of a team tasked with staff augmentation. The team was put together because my boss (the hiring manager) was absolutely swamped with work, as we all were. HR would send us resumes, most of which were not even close to the staff needs we had. Upon investigation it turned out HR published a previous job description they had on file from an earlier hiring round in that department. No one reviewed it before it was published it on Monster. Unfortunately, the posting had generated interest but we had to take it down. This was embarrassing and I doubt any of those applicants were properly followed up. Ultimately the positions were filled by Aerotek, a contract company. This company put off hiring as long as they could, which is typical. The hiring process was rushed and poorly executed, which is also typical. From the applicants side of things I don't worry about ghosting - they are probably doing me a favor if they do it.
Another reason for ghost jobs and a BIG one. Is to fire senior employees. They will keep reposting a job to see how much they can take away from the pay before it actually matters. Then hire based on that and fire the worker they currently have for someone cheaper.
I saw that with a buddy of mine I play games with, he was with a company for 20 years and then they got rid of him after doing this exact thing, too bad for them cus he found a better company and better pay, and now that company that has fired him doesn't know how to work the software he developed for them because they never studied it themselves@@cody_codes_youtube
You can spend time begging for jobs or spend the same time advertising for consulting services. I’ve always chose the latter. If I kept begging for jobs I’d never get hired. Soul crushing is a perfect description. It’s horrible putting your livelihood in someone else’s hands.
I'm not sure why you're speaking as if this is a new thing. right after 2008 well into the 2010s these types of job postings were the norm. Companies were absolutely not wanting to hire at the time, but still posted jobs. It's the same now, and it seems retaliatory at this point.
I have over 20 years exp making full stack apps on the Microsoft platform. Never had to wait more than a few weeks to land new jobs pre-covid. Now I am getting 0% response. Crazy.
I gave up a few years back working for myself is so much more rewarding. I make up my own hours, have my own dress code and make my own work life balance. If you haven’t taken the entrepreneurial route yet why not?
Thanks for the video! What are your thoughts about hiring during elections? I am a recent grad looking for job in tech in entry level positions. Should I take a break and work on my skills during Nov and dec or keep applying even during holidays?
I find it silly when companies and job seekers worry about the election. There are few industries that are affected by the actual election. I personally find no value in waiting. Luck favors those who take action and the more you are job hunting, the more practice you get and the better you are finding work. I would never just put pause on my life. That’s like trying to time the stock market… unless you have inside information, you’re just guessing
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Also, if you’re a person with no skills or little experience, you’re competing with people with 5 - 20 years experience. I would say try McDonald’s, private sitting, or get on food stamps Everything will bettter guys. I’m sure.
Saw something and not sure the accuracy of it but apparently if companies are “hiring” they can get better loans and interest rates. Is this true? Needs to be exposed
Job interview ghosting becoming common? It’s been going on much longer than people realize. The way I see things, if a company wants you…you’ll hear back asap. Let’s not take “ghosting” too seriously.
I have been working as a research and development engineer since 2007, and I have dealt with corporations like Apple, Mercedes, Volkswagen, the nuclear industry, and academic research at universities. Yet, I have never received a call from a recruiter about finding my CV in a database or because they suddenly remembered me. Forget those stories. To be remembered, you need to knock on doors repeatedly; job searching is also work. Even while employed, I continued looking for new opportunities to avoid sleeping on my laurels and ending up in a situation where my employer might lay me off, leaving me with no backup plan
Yeah, ghost jobs are a problem but there is simply not enough demand for workforce from companies. Most companies would rather cut costs or raise prices of their products than hire new people. Of course their products or services will be of worse quality but in the end they care only about next quarter numbers, nothing else.
I think things are warming back up. But since I don’t know much about your situation, my advice usually goes for trying to find referrals, make sure you’re customizing your resume to fit that job exactly, apply to company websites directly, and keep on trying to meet people or reach out to those who you used to work with!
This ghost jobs .. getting ghosted behavior has been the case since at least 2003. The legacy “it’s not what you know/did, but WHO you know (connections)” is still the way to get a job.
@@cody_codes_youtube in comparison to how many people wanting to work remotely? i hope u are aware vast majority of ppl cant find remotely job event they are pretty much good at what they doing
@cody_codes_youtube use A.V. as example with uber ceo don't give a damm about 1.5mil current drivers If the robot cars are fully implemented that will destroy all thoose drivers jobs🤧
@cody_codes_youtube uber along with waymu wants to eliminate all 1.5 million current drivers who drive for uber alone u think companies gonna stop only with cars🤧🤣
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I regularly see a dozen companies repost the same jobs over and over. Canonical is notorious for doing this to the point that there's hardly any applicant at ths point. If I applied to one of these and later realised the games they are playing there would be zero chance of me ever wanting to work there.
@@JoseJimenez-il5vs for suuuure. That’s completely a red flag for values and what kind of company they are
I applied to cannonical and they were very dissapointed that I don't use Ubuntu for personal use, and that's the reason they gave for not wanting to hire me
@@cody_codes_youtube there is an company I have been sent a lot of spamming reports to Libkedin. They are opening more than 30 positions all over the Europe everyday. In Workable they have more than 10 for daily. Other companies could not listed because of them. LinkedIn need to work for this like spamming jobs.
Yeah their job postings are a joke. I applied one time this year and they wanted know how good I was in Highschool?! What does that have to do with anything?
In the case of Canonical, the fact that they post a job over and over is related to their ridiculous hiring process. I mean the jobs are real.
At this point, it's easier to make your own company than get hired in one, so be it.
@@THEROOT1111 it’s not a bad idea to build up those skills
Let's start naming the companies that are doing this. Make it public.
Woah Deja vu.
It would be literally every company in corporate america. Not as much ghosting in small businesses
Thinking the same thing
Well we can't do that...because "job killing regulations". This is what you get when you vote right wingers in, folks.
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I got a mail with the standard "Thank you for applying, but we have chosen a different candidate for this role..." from a company yesterday, I also saw them repost the exact same job a few hours later. I guess noone is good enough to work there...
Oh dang! That’s a slap in the face
I got a video call from a company’s HR and he talked about the position, was ghosted the next day, and a month later the exact listing was out again.
Well so they “hire” someone else and immediately fire him so they need to repost the job again. So I will say that NOT no one is good enough to work there. It is that anyone they are hiring recently is only good for 1 sec before they get fired. 😂
@@cody_codes_youtubethey have an internal candidate and puts the job out of legal obligation.
A company I applied for did this to me. I applied for a lab tech job. They emailed me and said they filled the position. Then they emailed me the next day with the job still posted, and said that it was on “hold”
Job hunting is a depressing game. Over the few months I've been looking for work and these videos have been a great perspective. I found that the more I keep looking, the more desperate I become to get out of that loop of looking because it is so utterly exhausting applying through job after job.
Yeah you can’t do that 100% of the time. That’s a recipe for burnout and also quality going down on your applications going out. Take care of yourself! Good luck!
True and sad you send many cv or other recruiters requiems like insane entry level like Everest mountain 🏔️.
@@cody_codes_youtube This is why i appreciate my current position. Maybe its not paid enough for the job and i could have more, but i have stable contract by now and have a position and knowledge in the company so i wont be laid off for no reason and i do not have to look through jobs. In Poland what i have noticed as i tried to apply recently for something with better salary its like 70% of postings are ghost jobs.
Exactly. I know how it feels cos i been looking for jobs since January and stopped in July knowing that it had been a total waste of my time and energy. Then by pure luck i got a position last month working in a company that i would never have worked for if the market had not been so brutal. Now companies know that and they make use of it to screw the most out of their staff. This is really discouraging.
Networking is the only way to get a job these days. I talked to a lot of hiring managers and executives who simply said they go with current employee referrals and people they personally know. The external job postings are only for legal liability to show that there was no discrimination. Its a game, so know how to play the game.
@@TheOtomo exactly. That’s always been the preferred route. Now that there is a deluge of applications spamming all the external postings, referrals are 100x more valuable because no one wants to deal with that
@@cody_codes_youtube Preferred? Now it is the only way to get hired unless you have some very specialized skill or prior work history that fits exactly what the company is looking for.
@@TheOtomo I agree. I think there still is a chance with job boards, but because of the spam, the chance has gone down to a very low number.
If you don't have extensive experience in a field, or a bunch of work buddies with connections, then you've got no "network". People just love to post the most heard about, impractical advice, ever.
@@cody_codes_youtube There is NO CHANCE with the job boards. Been to them recently? They're not even remotely interested in serving job hunters.
I've been ghosted so much that it's very hard to remember the job description when I get contacted 1-2 months later for a technical interview, they even removed the job posting from their own website not just other job websites.
At that point I am just soul crushed, I did like 10 interviews with a company for 5 different roles in the last month, and they didn't even notice this, I got the same people interviewing me and they either pretend they don't remember me or just simply don't.
Oh wow! Thats wild. Sorry it’s been such a rough ride for you. Things should be getting better
I had the same thing, was interviewed twice for the same position almost a year apart and the interviewer didn't even realize. And rejected me again haha.
Yeah, I applied to a bunch of positions in one company and then I had to do 10 different 1 hour long extremely hard online assessments for it! But the cherry on top, they were all the same assessment (with different numbers). I'm wondering if they have like hundreds of applicants with perfect scores in their database. And they are just wondering if everyone is an expert on Bayesian statistics and IMO level math problems.
Great video. Took me a while to realize all the LinkedIn posts were ghosting me and give up. I’m just past the 1 year mark unemployed (software engineer/manager) and trying to accept that I can’t beat my head against the wall forever (lots of interviews but no offers). Seems like after 25 years doing this, the industry is just done with me. But I don’t know what to do instead. Like I seriously think I have to just give up and go apply at just some retail store or Starbucks or something.
I’m sorry you’re going through that! I really hope things turn around for you.
Same is happening to me - 20+ years of experience (enterprise user experience) with no to very little response from job postings. I've had interviews but they haven't led to offers (rare when looking back). Using the online job boards have a marginal effect at best. I think the market is done with me but not the industry. The next move for me is to move beyond this marketplace and into fractional leadership work. If you're not familiar with the term I would recommend looking into it. There are great slack communities surrounding this emerging trend.
For an IT job when you are over 40 there are only 2 choices for you. 1. Just make your own company from your experience. 2 Retire:( its sad but this industry expiration date is very early
Definitely a lot of ghost jobs out there. I got so desperate to just get ANY software engineering interview that I catered my resume and cover letter to make myself sound like a unicorn candidate even if I didn't have the skills that matched the position. I did it just to see if I would get an interview. Over more than 50 different positions spanned across different companies and not a single application was proceeded to the next step or a follow up of any sort.
I hate hearing so many people going through this!
A HR recruiter told me in an interview that they advertise for jobs they might or might not get the hiring budget for in the next financial year.
In that case only one out of the four advertised roles was actually real. So I was interviewing for a job that did not exist but might open up in the future.
That’s wild. That’s what I heard and hearing it again helps validate what I’m saying! Thank you
How quickly times change: five years ago, if you did not offer an applicant the job within two weeks they may have signed somewhere else.
@@elmiguel1969 dude that’s called career whiplash. Too many people took that for granted.
I remember I landed a good job after graduating in 2020, I ascended the ladder very fast, until the 2022 crisis. Then I realized that companies usually try to look someone to blame out for the bad situations. I passed a really bad time in the second half of 2022 until they decided to lay off half of the team.
I have been unemployed since 2023, and yeah, I have passed through a lot, ghost jobs and job ghosting after many interviews. I used to feel frustrated but now that I see that this is happening in general, it makes me feel better. Still hoping for things to solve and stabilize.
I’m sorry you’re going through that! Yeah I have faith things are starting to turn around, it’s just the process of job hunting is making everything worse
The sad reality is that for every job listing there are thousands of applications. By the time companies start sorting through apps they are likely to hire somebody before they get to you. sometimes things arent what they seem. A previous company i worked for would make public job listings to comply with state mandates but would never review the applications they received through job portals, the would only talk to stablished 3rd party recruiters or recommendations made by employees to fill the roles. Every person in that company either came in through the same 3rd party recruiter or had some sort of relationship to someone who worked there. They would even joke that the biggest challenge to getting in the company was figuring out how to apply.
Exactly this
This is a very good point. And kind of goes with the crappy nature of job hunting nowadays. I should have brought this up too!
I came back from seven years working a good job in the Netherlands to find myself completely unwanted by any employer, ever. Ten months of hard searching, applying, revising, etc. Two master's degrees, good universities, sixteen years overall trade experience,. Doesn't mean shit. Thought i was crazy. Good to see other people are having this suicidal experience of utter hopelesness with me. Thank you for reminding me I'm not alone.
You’re not, and I’m sorry you’re going through this. What is your industry? I feel like the market is turning, but feelings only go so far
@@cody_codes_youtube I was a senior content writer for a polar travel company. Not necessarily looking to stay in that trade forever, but really shocked at the lack of response I'm getting from any of the countless companies I've applied to. I hope you're right about it changing soon!
Excellent video! You listed all the reasons I also know for ghost job postings. Unfortunately, unless the government makes it illegal for companies to post ghost jobs specifically, I see zero methods of getting companies to stop this vile practice. My prediction is that most companies will freeze hiring until January 2025. After not working for so many months, all we can do is just hang on for dear life.
Yeah only so much you can do that’s in your power! Thank you for the kind words and taking the time to watch!
I wish you the best. Election freeze and agricultural problems (the rising temperatures are starting to affect yields of key crops) are going to be rough so hang in there!
But that sounds a lot like regulation, which is "job killing" according to Republicans. Keep voting to let businesses do whatever they want, and this is the end result.
Ghost jobs should seriously be illegal because it’s like you’re making a mockery and a joke out of people who are actually looking for a job. And for that matter these companies are also making a joke out of themselves because it’s gonna make people not trust them and wanna work for them because it’s a scam and is dishonest and disrespectful.
Totally agree.
Personally I'm not going to use job boards anymore, I just started subscribing to companies' job newsletter. Edit: I have no idea why my replies are not showing up, but what I usually do is go to the company site, go to their career page, search for my desired position, and it usually asks me if I'd like to subscribe to this job position. Would be great if all companies had a feature to subscribe to a specific position.
Not a bad approach. I think we all have to be nimble and adapt to a way different job market
How do we find a company’s job newsletter? Via LinkedIn? Any tips ?
@@mjg239 I'd suggest going to their main website, and under careers after you've search for a job they usually give you the option to subscribe. It's also possible they have a more straight forward method.
@@mjg239the same way OP did #duh
Any tips on how to do this?
Job ghosting is rough. I've done several interviews over the weeks and employers just don't care enough to let you know if a position is filled or you didn't make the cut. It's like maybe a minute of time.
I know. I get frustrated when they aren’t allowed to give feedback, but ghosting? Come on
I don't think you mentioned what I call "the McKinsey Special", in which companies keep posting-closing-reposting the same job but keep dropping the salary and benefits just to see how low they can go.
@@josephs3973 oh I haven’t heard of that! That’s crazy town. Have you seen this?
Got let go in May and had a junior designer take my position. 6 years of work for nothing. No one will hire me even with a good portfolio and 15 years experience. Maybe if I work for $25K a year with no benefits I'll get somewhere but NYC is brutal.
I’m so sorry you’re going through that. I had a good friend just transition from design to software engineering role so I’ve heard the difficulties
In the EU: Greece Spain Portugal you can rent 1BR or even 2BR apartment in the city for $1k z month.
People make $30k a year and that’s enough for living. You are too expensive in new remote work era if you live in NYC
That's sad to hear. Designer jobs are in real threat from generative AI right now.
I live in New York, too, and have also been having trouble finding a good job. I’ve applied to many places and have only gotten a few interviews and no callbacks after. It’s extremely difficult here.
I lived this hellscape last year, and also for a (thankfully) brief time this year. This conduct is atrocious, and it should be illegal. As well, the platforms that host these postings need to take some accountability and ensure that their tools mitigate the chances of this happening, such as posting the outcome of any posting and accepting feedback and ratings from applicants after a period of time (Where you ghosted? yes | no).
Yes, accountability would be a huge win
And maybe let the applicant know if the employer clicked on your application for the sake of 2-way visibility. There's a lot of interactivity and granularity the recruiter does that can be reported back to applicants. Bring the back-office forward.
This is happening to my husband and I. We don't work in IT (I hope to before I die), but it's just been one disappearing act after another for employers that we've applied to, and even interviewed with. My feeling is that MOST employers out there, regardless of the field, are not actively hiring. There's a lot of instability in the world right now and in government. I think after the election and even more so after the Russia-Ukraine and Hamas/Israel conflicts come to a conclusion, things will settle down and the economy will pick up. Unfortunately for people like my husband and I, we may not financially make it until then.
I wish you the best and am confident you’ll find a way forward. Good luck! I also feel like things will turn around soon
Don't vote Harris if you want the economy to improve. That's a fact. She states what she will do to improve the economy, fix the border, etc......some people forget she and Biden have destroyed everything over the past 4 years, so she is going to fix her own destruction? People can't really be that stupid, even if they don't like Trump.
@@cody_codes_youtube Right now we're working in packing positions, some of the most mind-numbing work I've ever done. Definitely stress-free, lol. But they micro-manage more than any company I've ever worked at.
@@atlantic_love ugh that’s the worst. But some money is better than none!
I've been experiencing this since the pandemic.. Had a promising job at Northrup Grumman and like many other companies, I think Northrup figured out they didn't need to have as many workers as they did pre-covid. I can't find consistent, good paying work anywhere in the south bay, California. It's ridiculous expected experience and degrees required to do something simple or outrageously low paying, non-life-supporting entry level jobs that wouldn't even cover rent, let alone groceries, gas, insurance. Drive a 22 year old truck and going no where fast. What happened to companies willing to train someone new to the industry and help them grow within the company? So frustrating... I would be under a bridge right now if it wasn't for my family.
I’m so sorry to hear that. I feel that frustration of companies not caring for the long term growth of their employees. I hope things turn around for you!
I checked in on a job opportunity that I applied to 9 months ago. That job was a six month contract position. They could have hired someone months after posting this job and the contract would have still be completed by now. The job listing is still open.
Wooooooooow!
I just want to know my resume was read. That is huge in knowing you got through the system.
Read, and would be nice how much consideration they spent on it
I was laid off in February 2024, still looking for a job. I've stopped telling people when I get interviews because ones I have gone through wound up being ghost jobs.
Frustrating to get excited over a role and then finding out said role is non-existent.
I’m so sorry. That honestly sucks so bad. I hope you land something!
All great points!! Thx for sharing !
Thanks for watching!
You missed another reason why they do this. They are legally obligated to post the job so they can then claim there are no qualified candidates and then hire outside of the US.
Check out the H-1B requirements for sponsorship.
@@r2worksee I would like to see that federal law. I’ve never heard of something like that
@@cody_codes_youtube
From the H1B gov website:
The intent of the H-1B provisions is to help employers who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities from the U.S. workforce by authorizing the temporary employment of qualified individuals who are not otherwise authorized to work in the United States.
www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/immigration/h1b
@@cody_codes_youtube It's right on the H-1B gov website under employer requirements. Check it out!
@@cody_codes_youtube it’s not a federal law but rather a requirement for employee sponsorship.
I apply from outside US but I still don’t get any. They’d say they need only US citizens.
Wish the presidential candidates were asked questions about this and what they’d do to prevent it. It’s so deceptive to say our job market is thriving when so many of us end up wasting time looking for credible positions just to be ghosted
Yeah that’s true. I wish I had an answer to it as well
And end up doing food delivery like me
This is 100% accurate. But if I said the same thing, people would call me negative or a hater. Thanks for posting this.
Hahah. No worries! I’ll take the heat for the both of us 👊
Another issue is people submitting resumes for jobs they have no intention of ever doing or for a job they are not in any way qualified for or suited to. Just so they can meet requirements for fulling their unemployment benefits, or worse they're doing a literal spray and pray approach. Thus clogging up the system for job recruiters.
For sure. I don’t know how to implement a part of the system that establishes intent.
I am living Canada and I had interviewed for 4 or 5 positions from a really famous telecom company…and none of them really turned into a job offer… for each position I was interviewed for, there are at least 2 rounds of interviews, a case study, a presentation, and then they say they have no budget 🤑what a process
Dude what an incredible insult to your time. Wooow
@@cody_codes_youtube thank you for your reply. I am ok if there is more than 1 round of interviews and no job offer, I can take it since job hunting is time consuming. But I assume the really problem is that the big corp management team now longer treat employees or potential employees as HUMAN anymore. The only thing they can see is just numbers on the financial statement, without understanding the product, the business, the people…when was the last time you have a face to face job interview rather than just online? I have been in the job market for about 8/9years and I don’t even remember the last time I was properly trained… i just been used as a printer. Hope you will have a new video talking about this someday 🫡
AI scan/test your application/resume/cover letter to make sure your skillset and experience show up well, as with the decline in HR staffing, they simply must use AI because they cannot read through all the apps they get.
@@davidhollfelder9940 yeah so it then becomes the battle of the bots. And we are just standing around just wanting to work
@@cody_codes_youtube Yeap. The employers have CHOSEN to go to AI for filtering out applicants. There's absolutely nothing wrong/illegal/unethical in using AI to your benefit.
If I saw this video in 2023 I wouldn't believe it.
But after "failing" on 18 process on the last 3 months with empty excuses like: "The position was canceled / put on hold", "We value your strong technical skill, but you lack passion with technology X, Y and Z" I finally understand that there are something CREEPY happening on job market in 2024!
@@goldenglowitsolutions so glad you shared your story! It’s unfortunate that’s how you’ve been exposed to this, but it’s feeling so sketch
The US programmer is just too expensive when compared to EU or any other developed countries - post pandemic dawn of remote work is nail in a coffin.
I understand how people make this argument but I haven’t seen it play out in the Job market. I’ve only seen teams get disappointed when doing the overseas options. It’s really hard to work fast with people in such dramatic time zone differences. Despite the cost and skill
I've mentioned in cover letters I prefer in-office settings. I don't elaborate that the reason is that it's a career switch, but it may help my chances.
@@scifyry yeah it’s important to gain any sort of edge you can
A way to take down these ghost jobs would be for the job boards to allow comments. People could comment "this is a reposting of a job I applied to a month ago" and "I work at this company and I know it's a fake post." LinkedIn should allow you to block companies. I kept seeing posts at companies that I knew were terrible to their employees and I didn't want to apply, but not only could I not block them, LinkedIn would email me telling me to apply. LinkedIn doesn't care about the job seeker - they make money from the employers and they are collecting data.
@@courtneyshannon2621 ohhhhh!! That’s a wild idea. I think I like it
I have seen companies reposting the same job again and again, I'm convinced they are fishing and waiting for the unicorn, they are even wasting the time of agencies too. What I don't understand is why go to the ends of getting a headcount approved which must be difficult now but then not be serious about filling the job? Or it could be the headcount is not even approved - I had this myself, got an "offer" only for head office to refuse to rubber-stamp the hiring decision.
I sometimes think the process of opening a job requires isn’t as difficult as some companies make it out to be. I’ve also seen headcounts get retracted too
If you keep seeing the same job from the same company over and over it can mean, they hired someone and that person was either fired or quit so they are looking to fill the position again, trust me this happens more than you might think.
Even inside large tech companies, the internal job boards are full of ghost jobs. Jobs that change level or are forgotten… I also think that some managers are just trying to get a sense of who is interested internally to move to their teams.
Yeah, it’s crappy when a job req is used as a tool to derive data, at the expense of those who are actually on the hunt
The worst part about this market is that almost everyone that has actually responded were conartists trying to steal personal information with interview scams... of the 150 resumes i sent out i got 3 real interviews and 5 scams. 2 of the scams i didnt even apply for they were given my resume by indeed.
Yeah the scams seem to be rising in popularity. So that’s not great
That's exactly what I'm experiencing. I'm just going to focus on doing my own thing.
This just happen to my friend started out as were going to do 1 hour phone interview to emailing back saying hiring manger wants to see her. Then set up appointment then 24 hours later they canceled it. This company is just doing what you're saying spot on.
It’s such garbage practice!! I hope it isn’t widespread, but it definitely is discouraging a lot of people
Thanks you are helping alot of people out there:)
This made my day!
You’re right a lot of us are struggling. When it comes to me I’m unemployed because I quit to a severe toxic environment at work.
Yes, those environments are so hard to deal with. Because by the time you know it’s toxic, you’re so entrenched! Hope you’re gaining some sanity back
Ghost jobs are tough. I really cannot understand why some companies bother posting them at all.
It’s not to hire someone, but for some other benefits!
indeed charges client per click as well as exploits data and charges
Sounds about right. The business model makes sense
While I was listening to your (this) video I was interacting with a small shop through Indeed messaging. The HR person responded to my initial application by saying they were looking for someone with specific experience. I almost just thanked them and called it a done deal. Instead I responded to let them know I did have that experience, just not in a professional capacity. I also asked if they had seen my cover letter (which addressed this experience). They responded that they had missed my cover letter and would send my information on to the next level. I just want to say that if you do get the chance to interact with someone, make the most of it. It can be easy to get discouraged and not take advantage of every opportunity after being worn down in the job search market for a long time.
@@langsor good work! This is incredibly true! At the root of it we are just social animals and it does so much to just interact with a real person
Companies who doesn't need employees post ghost jobs to gather information on the talent pool, ironically they either have internal hire on mind or they simply keep it floating to gather data.
@@markusturunen7929 yeah. I mean the math works out. If it only costs them 250 bucks to gather 200+ resumes; then… that’s data well earned
What about the jobs that are reposted on LinkedIn? I was surprised to get an interview for a role that was originally posted several weeks ago
Sounds pretty common. Employers can be picky so they can say no, and just try again
man I just hate how we’ve all just accepted that this is how society works, when it doesn’t have to be this way! A degree is pretty much useless at the moment, school just gets you into debt. and “basic” entry level jobs that are essential to our everyday life/society don’t pay a livable wage! and you need capital to start a company of your own. with such advancements in technology, industrialization, and information, why we as a species choose to continue to live in a broken society? how good would it be to work to make the world a better place? create jobs and improve society while also working towards repairing our planet!
@@apolloferrero8664 👏
I enjoy all of your videos. Could you have one about resume gap in tech?
Oh not a bad idea! I have many of these comments I want to make RUclips shorts for. So keep an eye out for that
@@cody_codes_youtube not everyone is superstar developer. So big resume gap is really a thing in this silent recession.
@@aunguyen84 no I agree. I have some ideas
The main issue, especially in IT, is that for years, they hired anyone with some coding skills, even if they didn’t have a degree. As a result, the market is now saturated.
I think this is partially true. The inherit nature of software is the bulk of need for coding is NEW things being built. Like startups and new project inside big companies. VC money and capital to fund these projects has dried up a lot in the past 2-3 years. The hunt and feeding frenzy has gone away, and now the market is more representative of the actual need of the skillset.
They want attention is what I strongly feel. This gives them free marketing of their services to lots of people, competitors. The resumes and candidates data can be further utilised. Also, the assignments shared can be used with making some tweaks in it. Basically, fake/ghost jobs are ruining the job market and wasting countless hours of applicants.
Yup. It’s a complete waste of time for everyone
Do you think ghost jobs are much more common with remote work than with hybrid and in-office positions? As a senior software engineer, do you think my chances will greatly improve if I start applying to in-office jobs and plan to relocate upon accepting an offer?
Let’s be real, there is a trend for people coming back to office. There are a lot of variables that contribute to that.
And also: of course it’ll improve your chances because it’s expanding your job pool. But the question is by how much and how flexible you are with your living situation. Moving for work used to be super common.
WFH is over. Next people on The chopping block will be the WFH crew.
It sucks that these ghost jobs exist. Hopefully we see less and less over time.
Same. I don’t know the answer though. It’s a crappy situation
But if it is a ghost job, do companies follow through and do even one round of interviews or phone screenings? The cost is to the application reading the post & doing whatever the digital application is.
@@pythonlibrarian224 Depends on their goals, right? If they want to go fishing, they can collect resumes and just hang out. If they want to project growth of their company, they do absolutely nothing.
What about getting every company to disclose how many poisons they are looking to fill and how many adverts they are putting out.
Then some sort of fine for ghost jobs and manipulating the market.
I think that’s some of right thinking. There would need to be some level of allowances for mistakes. I’ve seen startups go go go and then suddenly funding falls through and those jobs were dependent on that
Love that RAGBRAI poster in the background.
@@bencochell6350 good find!!! I just put it up!
Been laid off since August of last year . Havnt found anything . Burning through my savings - bills keep comin but I’m sitting here with no job . I worked in technical support for over 20 years and BOOM ! Dont even have medical insurance now .
@@Fraiyia I’m sorry you’re going through that. I am hoping for the best for you and that this market turns around!
@@cody_codes_youtube it doesn’t help to be 57 either . I went to a job interview in September at a liquor store and the person there pretty much knew she had no plan to hire me , it was about half of what I make and part time but I went and it was bullshit. I applied at target and yea, they offered me a job in cedar rapids Iowa but I live in Texas . I applied at all kinds of monster jobs online all kinds of other online job source and multiple other Target jobs which I am constantly turned down for . I am considering going to Hawaii while I still have money in my accounts . If I’m going to be homeless , I want to be in a place that’s warm and near the ocean .
Is interesting , then you see executives telling people on the news that they cannot find anyone to do the job they are looking for
I mean to be fair, when the world is filled with noise, it’s so hard for both sides to find the right fit
Not trying to be mean...i'm sure the tech industry is in a real jam. Why not start a business? Advertise what you're good at to the world and we are happy to pay you for the services we need!
@@NerdlyCNC that’s not mean at all. It comes down to comfort and some capability. Saying “advertise to the world” isn’t something everyone is skilled with, or comfortable with. Not everyone likes the idea of hustling for contracts and customers. In fact it gives many anxiety. I LOVE IT, but many just simply want a job that has security and structure
@@cody_codes_youtube yeah i understand. i wish more people had to start a business for a year before going out into the job market. i think it would dramatically shape the expectation from all sides.
Can you do a post about AI reviewing resumes now?
I think that would be interesting for sure. I’ll write it down!
Why is it called a ghost job when it's clearly a fake job listing
@@T4tangoDoh because ghost job is more fun. And it still suggests that it could kind of be a job. Depending on the situation
Very good point. I'm being ghosted right now by a company that I think WILL be hiring for the position I applied and interviewed for.
@@atlantic_love that really breaks my heart. I'm really sorry. I hope you get a much better offer that you're really comfortable with
I would say they are not interested and leave it at that.
I don’t get it
@@cody_codes_youtube They maybe not interested in what you offer. Also, they may be interviewing other candidates at the same time and would to pursue them. It could be a lot of reasons. I do believe a little etiquette is nice from the company, but not all people are nice. My experience (40 years in the electronic industry) tells me not to get hung up on a company or feeling rejected. You will find a job, use the down time to improve yourself.
@@cody_codes_youtubeHere a story to maybe clarify: I was part of a team tasked with staff augmentation. The team was put together because my boss (the hiring manager) was absolutely swamped with work, as we all were. HR would send us resumes, most of which were not even close to the staff needs we had. Upon investigation it turned out HR published a previous job description they had on file from an earlier hiring round in that department. No one reviewed it before it was published it on Monster. Unfortunately, the posting had generated interest but we had to take it down. This was embarrassing and I doubt any of those applicants were properly followed up. Ultimately the positions were filled by Aerotek, a contract company.
This company put off hiring as long as they could, which is typical. The hiring process was rushed and poorly executed, which is also typical. From the applicants side of things I don't worry about ghosting - they are probably doing me a favor if they do it.
Another reason for ghost jobs and a BIG one. Is to fire senior employees. They will keep reposting a job to see how much they can take away from the pay before it actually matters. Then hire based on that and fire the worker they currently have for someone cheaper.
I have not seen that happen before. When and where have you seen that?
I saw that with a buddy of mine I play games with, he was with a company for 20 years and then they got rid of him after doing this exact thing, too bad for them cus he found a better company and better pay, and now that company that has fired him doesn't know how to work the software he developed for them because they never studied it themselves@@cody_codes_youtube
You can spend time begging for jobs or spend the same time advertising for consulting services. I’ve always chose the latter. If I kept begging for jobs I’d never get hired. Soul crushing is a perfect description. It’s horrible putting your livelihood in someone else’s hands.
@@SteveFavis I feel like there has been a push for this kind of lifestyle
I'm not sure why you're speaking as if this is a new thing. right after 2008 well into the 2010s these types of job postings were the norm. Companies were absolutely not wanting to hire at the time, but still posted jobs. It's the same now, and it seems retaliatory at this point.
@@lordblazer I just feel like it’s more pervasive nowadays with the enablement of easy posting and “easy apply” buttons. I remember how tough 2008 was
I have over 20 years exp making full stack apps on the Microsoft platform. Never had to wait more than a few weeks to land new jobs pre-covid. Now I am getting 0% response. Crazy.
Man! I’m putting in a video soon about how I think things are turning around. I can share my thought process
I gave up a few years back working for myself is so much more rewarding. I make up my own hours, have my own dress code and make my own work life balance. If you haven’t taken the entrepreneurial route yet why not?
I have. But it’s not for everyone
@@cody_codes_youtube true but working for yourself is the closest thing to freedom any of us will have in my opinion.
Thanks for the video! What are your thoughts about hiring during elections? I am a recent grad looking for job in tech in entry level positions. Should I take a break and work on my skills during Nov and dec or keep applying even during holidays?
I find it silly when companies and job seekers worry about the election. There are few industries that are affected by the actual election.
I personally find no value in waiting. Luck favors those who take action and the more you are job hunting, the more practice you get and the better you are finding work. I would never just put pause on my life. That’s like trying to time the stock market… unless you have inside information, you’re just guessing
Signing up for the job boards you end up contacted by scammers trying to get your information. I've got more calls from them than anything.
@@NovaWolf01 this is a problem yeah
can you talk about Indeed please,
Of course! What do you want to hear?
Most of the recruiters calling like -- what is the ceramic price per meter--from a store. 🚨😒 I am a good or team mate for you?
Good Recruiters are hard to come by
Sir this is a great video.
Sir could you please help me or give me some tips and advice to find entry level jobs as a fresher?
Thank you!!
Stay subscribed! I’m planning on a whole series for exactly this issue
The first HR worker was the HAL 9000 computer in 2001: A Space Odyssey... under orders to pretend to be something he was not.
It’s all been downhill since
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Thank you! I’m currently working with a few people. But email me anyways if things change
Do you think the job market will get any better? I've heard rumblings that 2025 will be a lot better for job seekers.
@@msmichydo yup! In fact I put up a video after this one about that exact topic and why I think that way. Check it out!
Ghosting is never innocent.
I think it is. It can be. Sometimes it’s just inept team dynamics and people don’t communicate
Also, if you’re a person with no skills or little experience, you’re competing with people with 5 - 20 years experience.
I would say try McDonald’s, private sitting, or get on food stamps
Everything will bettter guys. I’m sure.
@@jeneshamill.zoeyrayshow2458 entry level workers are def having a hard time now
When i see 100's have applied or that the job has been "reposted", i dont waste my time.
Smart. It’s so disappointing though!
Saw something and not sure the accuracy of it but apparently if companies are “hiring” they can get better loans and interest rates.
Is this true? Needs to be exposed
That.. wouldn’t surprise me actually
Job interview ghosting becoming common? It’s been going on much longer than people realize. The way I see things, if a company wants you…you’ll hear back asap. Let’s not take “ghosting” too seriously.
Ehh. Sure it’s been around forever. It’s just gotten much worse lately
I have been working as a research and development engineer since 2007, and I have dealt with corporations like Apple, Mercedes, Volkswagen, the nuclear industry, and academic research at universities. Yet, I have never received a call from a recruiter about finding my CV in a database or because they suddenly remembered me. Forget those stories. To be remembered, you need to knock on doors repeatedly; job searching is also work. Even while employed, I continued looking for new opportunities to avoid sleeping on my laurels and ending up in a situation where my employer might lay me off, leaving me with no backup plan
Yup. It’s always worth hearing people out and seeing what’s out there
Yeah, ghost jobs are a problem but there is simply not enough demand for workforce from companies. Most companies would rather cut costs or raise prices of their products than hire new people. Of course their products or services will be of worse quality but in the end they care only about next quarter numbers, nothing else.
I think that is somewhat true but so hard to gauge since we have so much noise with the job boards
Stop going through 3rd party websites such as indeed and zip recruiter as well.
Agreed
I would like to know if someone can make a list of companies that do this and make it public
I agree. That would be a big task
TSA might be doing this
Oh interesting!
I been applying for last 6 months and couldn’t even land any interwiew yet ..any suggestion ??
I think things are warming back up. But since I don’t know much about your situation, my advice usually goes for trying to find referrals, make sure you’re customizing your resume to fit that job exactly, apply to company websites directly, and keep on trying to meet people or reach out to those who you used to work with!
Ghost jobs and having to game the ATS systems that filter qualified candidates. Yeah people are having a tough time with this noise.
It’s quite ridiculous
If we use AI for resume, will the company find that the resume is AI generated or does it affect ATS score?
I can’t speak to that but I would guess it could. But I would also guess that’s based on how the ATS is configured
This ghost jobs .. getting ghosted behavior has been the case since at least 2003.
The legacy “it’s not what you know/did, but WHO you know (connections)” is still the way to get a job.
Agree. That approach is still the way
I know no one and yet I get at least 2 interview offers a week...
This is hell 😢
It will get better!
working remotely seems to be delusion for a lot of people
Tell me more (I’ve worked remotely 80% of my career)
@@cody_codes_youtube in comparison to how many people wanting to work remotely? i hope u are aware vast majority of ppl cant find remotely job event they are pretty much good at what they doing
Yeah remote work has been on the downturn since the pandemic. I hope things turn around, but the return to office trend suuuuuuucks
Why are you holding that mic?
For people to comment on it… haha. I need to get out of that habit!
Once you pop - you can't stop? :-)
Giving me “Oldest son of Mark Cuban” vibes. 😊
Haha. I will take that as a compliment!
@ - I meant well and in good humor spirit my friend. I enjoy your videos. 🙌🙏👏
Conpanies are hiring u to train ai to put humans out of work..this will destroy capatalism
I don’t know where that is happening… but sure, I suppose that could happen…?
@@cody_codes_youtube capatalism has an ecosystem when 60% of all jobs are eliminated u do the math universal income won't work
@cody_codes_youtube use A.V. as example with uber ceo don't give a damm about 1.5mil current drivers
If the robot cars are fully implemented that will destroy all thoose drivers jobs🤧
@cody_codes_youtube uber along with waymu wants to eliminate all 1.5 million current drivers who drive for uber alone u think companies gonna stop only with cars🤧🤣
also scammers post fake jobs to steal your id,
Yeah I’ve heard of those too
IBM.
VCR
working by itself is already a drag and now we are even being ghosted hahahaha
@@6r31v1nZ yeah. It feels a little dystopian
I went to a temp agency. Way more reliable. Go offline. That's the way now.
That’s awesome! What kind of work did you get?