Corporate greed has always been over the top. I'd like to share some past examples: 1) IBM hired a lot of people 1977-1978. Every year in writing we were promised a full pension after 30 years. Then around 1995, IBM and all the other corporations illegally converted real pension to 401ks. Not only did we lose our pensions, but they only put roughly half of the current value into the 401k. Employees sued; won the first round; it went into appeals which could continue until everyone dies of old age. I eventually resigned. 2) IBM decided to split part of the field engineering (computer repair) force into a separate company. Techs chosen to be moved were put on one year's probation + had their salaries cut 25% even if they had 25+ years experience with excellent appraisals their entire career. 3) IBM and AT&T basically traded employees to take away seniority. Some work was "outsourced" to the other corporation along with the employees who lost their existing seniority and basically started over. And the second corporation did the same with a bunch of their employees. As for ridiculous job requirements, I never recognized MY OWN JOB in the descriptions. And now I see silly job postings on LinkedIn all of the time. I've seen postings asking for more years of experience than a skill has existed. And most recently I saw a posting for a proofreader that required a MASTERS DEGREE. IF that really was true, it would have to specify a degree in WHAT SPECIALTY. It didn't. Personally, my philosophy since resigning from IBM after 23 years was I never want another J.O.B. (Just Over Broke) in my life. I've successfully freelanced entirely online since 2000. Just this year they shut down what provided my primary income for the past six years. Within a month I picked up two clients on retainer to replace that income.
I have 4 FinServ companies (well known) who did fake layoffs. How do I know. Jobs were posted 4 days ago and now are mysteriously no longer taking application submissions.
And data mining to test how low of a wage they can get away with before absolutely nobody on the planet will accept the job. If they think there's some 20 year old kid who's parents pay their bills that will take the job for the sake of having a job, a They will take that person.
I seriously applied for a job as a therapist to be a Corporate People Person. A liaison between corporate and employees. I took a stupid test that said I had too much empathy, they also sold my info from the test I took. So basically they wanted a gaslighting spy for the position.
My son applied for a job in 2020. He gave his apartment people notice and gave his old employer notice, that he was moving because of a new job. About a week before he was supposed to catch his flight and his household goods were in transit, he found out the new job that he'd been accepted for was eliminated. His move had been out-of-pocket. Luckily, I had space in my home, where his family was able to stay, while he did job hunting for the next two months. One of the jobs said it could be done remotely, which looked great. There was a catch. When he did the interview, they said he was required to be in the office one day a week (four states away). Moving again was not an option.
This is why I don’t want to move for jobs. It should come with a guaranteed 3 months pay or something if they cancel… companies used to cover moving costs more frequently
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‘Remote’ as it gets… love these postings. Bait and switch.
My dad did a remote job like that. He bit the bullet, and just flew in one day a week. Only god knows how many frequent flyers miles that man has. I don't even want to think about how much of his pay check went to delta and south west over the course of that year.
If he'd had to travel from where he'd been originally, it would have been almost as remote as it could get. He would have spent most of a day travelling to get there, by plane.
My boomer dad said I need to go into a business , ask for a paper application/store manager, hand them your paper resume. I told him there aren't any jobs you can do this at and you need to go online, but when you do, you will probably never hear from them again.
I've only seen one job in the last 12 years where you could go in and ask for a paper application. It was for a local pet store. My mom tried telling me the same thing, even dragged me around to a few locations at the beginning of college. The only one that didn't tell me to apply online was my mom's friend, who still told me that she had already hired everyone she was going to hire for the semester.
Yeah the last time I applied with a paper application was to a clothing store in a mall in... 2014, might have been early 2015? And before that it was my first job at McDonald's in 2012... Not sure why they think people still do paper applications in 2024 😅
@@natashasullivan4559boomers are genuinely that out of touch with reality, they can't or maybe just won't accept that the world is nothing like when they were our age, and they're the ones that ruined it.
It can still work, but you have to get really lucky, and be in the right market. If you manage to talk to the right manager at the right time in the right company, it's still possible. That being said, it's probably not a strategy I'd recommend because the time and resource investment is sooooo much more than going online. I'd say if there's one place you really want to work or a particular job that you're really interested in, it can be worth a try to go in person, express interest, ask questions. If you manage to have a good conversation with the right person who actually has some pull in hiring, it CAN get you in there. And honestly, if you've been actively searching for several months or even years at this point, it won't make it any worse to try.
I'm tired of this comment. It's not true. It's:" You'll own nothing, you'll be miserable, and you won't be able to do shit about it." They're not even hiding it anymore.
@Rahshu the reason it is stated like that is because of English speaking parents. "You'll have this, and like it." Not because we actually expect to like it.
Job searching really is draining and exhausting. Even when you got a lot of job experiences in a few areas, good credit score, clean driving record and no criminal record, you’re still competing with a thousand people who have the same thing. It’s ridiculous and employers who make you jump through hoops, do zoom calls, 15 minute phone interviews 2 hours worth of assessments when you get there doesn’t help because now they can find out from how you score if you’re even worth hiring and how much to pay you.
The issue is your not competing with people. When you ate looking for a job you are looking to work with 2 weeks after that you on to the next job. You are only competing with the ats system. It's other factors besides your resume that is used to determine job eligibility.
Its insane when comapnies give you 5-8h home test/projecta to get a job when you been in industry for almost 10y and these decision makers usually not even qualified to test applicant knowledge. Tests should be for junior and graduate roles, not for senior positions... for senior roles interview should be sufficient. Cause you might be doing work for company which u not being compensated for.
It’s getting much worse as applicants figure out that not only can they use AI to spam thousands of job apps they barely qualify for, but must just to have any chance of actually getting one.
Funny thing. A family member of mine went to prison for 10 years. During that time I gained 3 degrees, while working. I own nothing, he has over 1million in assets. Most of what he has was just given to him. What's worse. I rent my house from him, and he I'd a slumlord. I should have been a criminal.
Making 115M, this is the problem. Why can't these guys live on 5M? The other 110M could fund 1500 70K/yr staff salaries. These companies have executive staffs that are 100 deep. Layoffs could be avoided without this insane largesse. Why can't shareholders have reasonable expectations based on business cycles?
Because a lot of that money is unrealized in the form of stocks and investments. They don’t just have 115 million liquid cash they can spread around. Plus, the people making that type of money are always taking massive risks that could make or break the company, so they have a huge responsibility. If they were artificially limited how much they can make, no one would be willing to take those risks that can result in enormous success.
@@kiki11974 The last time I had to deal with an HR rep. I got fired for being harassed by a female coworker. In addition to that I can't find a layer that will take the case when they sited me being a "forty something year old man". Our system is beyond broken.
Be happy and be very very protective and smart. There is a major campaign to bankrupt all retired or anyone trying to be self employed or a side business. One way or another. Assets, real estate, etc. Then it's a complete no way you'll be able to get back into employment.
@@Chris-t7m5tit's not just the campaigns for the retired, here in Philly, there is a silent drive to evict and bankrupt the working class in the city, I watched the elderly in retirement apts being slum pushed out or gouged for more money
You are probably the only “boomer” that understands the high stakes and hopelessness people my age feel. I’m 26 and I don’t know how I will do this for another 39 years. I’m 5 years into my career and I’m already looking for ways to get out!
I wish I could afford to retire. I have been financially unstable since being laid off April 2022. These companies don't want to hire people of a certain age even with an awesome resume. They need to get a clue & stop ghosting too. I find that rude & disrespectful. Frankly, I'm tired & burned out from applying but I have no other choice as I won't be opening a business of my own.
I just can't get over how often I get contacted by recruiters from companies that passed on my application previously. Why on earth would I waste my time a second time?
Sometimes its an accident. I was recruited, went through 2 stages, and got rejected. That same recruiter found me on another site months later. Still had his email so I just shot him saying "you want me to try again?" They are still human, and dealing with hundreds of others. Unless there's a paper trail (like, responding to me when the chat log above was from months ago) I don't wanna be too hard on simple mistakes like that.
Ugh. Once I had a recruiter tell me a job was filled the day before a second interview. Later the manager asked why I didn't show up for the interview. Yeah, red flag just move on. Especially, if the company is shady and trying to avoid paying an outside recruiter firm by calling you back.
Since my layoff, & going through all the stages, I feel like I'm finally on the outside looking in, wondering why the heck I ever thought playing their games would get me somewhere in life? Success? A sense of accomplishment? Sacrificed time with family. How did i overlook this for 18 years?! Smh. To die at a desk before retiring and no one noticing for 4 days... That's what my future would've held for me.
I totally get where you're coming from. After my last layoff, I realized how much time I wasted playing the corporate game. I even started using an AI tool during interviews to deal with the trivia questions, just to get ahead. It helped me land a new role faster, and honestly, gave me the time back to focus on what matters. 18 years is a long time to realize that the corporate ladder might not be worth climbing if it means sacrificing everything else!
I don't often apply to a job that doesn't list a salary range. The employer should have an idea of what money they have to pay to the job. If they don't list anything, I assume it is super low and they are trying to waste time.
The range is easy to find. Just Google salary for any given position. HR uses the exact same sources. With few exceptions, they will likely offer you whatever the midpoint salary is. 😳
As I sit here at 26 doing manual labor for $1K a week. No benefits, no insurance, no retirement, no holiday pay, and constantly traveling. I am still wondering what I am supposed to be building towards when I dont know if I actually have a chance to buy property or a work truck.
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I suggest you work towards a better trade or craft that will allow you to move out of the US and be a profitable member of their society because this one is toast. I hate to say it but the US is overstretched so it is bound to do a massive recoil which could be catastrophic don't be around when it happens.
The trades need hardworking people like you. Check out your local community college, which may provide training in trades, such as HVAC, plumbing, electrical, and automotive.
I feel the same! Work trucks are unbelievably expensive and almost considering a 1980 gmc sierra because that’s so much more affordable than any recent used truck haha
Retired now. This is what I've observed with ghost jobs: 1) Companies used to have actually post a job before they could get an H1b candidate. Posts would be made with low pay but huge skill requirements. They did not want anyone to really apply. 2) Competitive programs with DOD would have 3 or 4 competing companies posting similar jobs although only one would ever have the contract. The award is often delayed or never happens, but when there is an award they need to hit the ground running. btw, Department of Labor tracks the job postings and concludes that there is a desperate shortage of people with these skills. 3) The only way to see resumes is to post a job. Hiring manager wanting to see what's out there will post a position for everything from a summer intern to a senior staff scientist for a particular skill just to see what's out there. Often, after drawing in a stack of resumes they will decide to hire no one. Department of Labor again. I've witnessed all of these in my career.
3) The only way to see resumes is to post a job? That doesn't quite smell right. Employers can see lots and lots of semi-public resumes on indeed without posting a job.
This will not stop until CEO pay is tied to average employee pay. Maybe if congressional pay was tied to average constituent pay, our legislature would make that happen. Also - good luck to these companies when they're stuck reckoning with a majority Gen Z workforce.
Job postings have always been insane. I remember in 2001 a job posting requiring 5+ years of experience in Windows 2000!!! Literally no one alive including the developers could claim that.
I saw one in 2020 where it asked for 5 years experience in FastAPI. FastAPI was invented in 2018.The creator himself saw the job listing and thought it was funny so he tweeted about how he wouldn't be able to get the job.
@@ami4511 At least you could blame the idiot recruiter for being ignorant as literally the YEAR of creation is not in the title of the product itself lol
These get posted on reddit--so similar... needing 5+ years of various tech that are just a few years old. Comes from ignorant ppl or "disconnected" hiring agent.
Industrial companies post adds looking for people with experience programming machining software that is proprietary and you can only get if you already work there.
gonna join a trade union myself when I'm done with trade school for HVAC. I am only in the school just to get some time to myself, Learn some skills, and learn about the trade and the options they bring before committing to it. Previous job searches had messed my mind up and I didn't want to get straight back into work. Gotta toughen my mind before going in.
One thing I found funny is I have turned down interviews. And have been thanked. By hr and recruiters. For not ghosting them out right in the process. Not all of them are soulless ass hats….. but it’s still very very slim of a window.
Unions need to be cleaned up of corruption and all employees need a union unless they work for a very ethical privately owned small business. Corporate employees found that out the hard way when corporations took away the pensions we were promised in writing every year for decades. That is when we found out if you don't have a union contract, that promise in writing means nothing.
I work in the steel industry in a non unionized corporation that's one of the biggest steel distributors in America. I had no issues with the hiring process. Didn't have to jump through hoops or anything they take anyone as long as you can use a tape measure and computer and build you up into the worker they need over months. I think it's less about unionization and more about the culture of the corporation and integrity of the people involved
All this advice is absolute dog shit, it doesn’t mean anything if the economic environment is trash. If there is no economic prosperity aka competition among companies there simply not going to be a surplus of jobs where it warrants sensible logically hiring practices to take place as such that we currently are asking a ridiculous list of requirements to entry to mid career candidates such as myself have been experiencing. There simply is no jobs to begin with to cater to the massive influx of candidates entering the job market. Companies have plateau with innovation and we can go down the rabbit hole on how we got here all we want but it is not going to change stuff until we as populous demand things to change and idk 🤷♂️ how that is going to happen when we have a current system that is making quite difficult to do business as in terms as here in the US.
I felt bits of this during 35:00, but I understand the spirit of what he's saying here. Sometimes you can do nothing wrong and lose, and that's basically this job market right now. However, just because no one is hiring now doesn't mean they won't be hiring later. This BS happens in cycles. If we're in an ebb, hunker down and survive, but then prep yourself for the flow. If there's no art jobs, work on your portfolio. Make sure you don't look rusty once the economy (that we pretend is goo) is actually good. Also, VOTE!. Make sure your reps know this is a pressing issue and that they need to do something about it if they want another term.
@@raze2012_ Couldn’t have said it any better. I don’t want to come out as being all negative and thats is it the world is cooked and to give up all together, on the contrary lets be realistic here the economy is dog shit due to bad policies affecting it. I have noticed that all the companies that I have been hired at in the past have hired me because they were forced to hire because they were loosing out to other companies candidates. I have to acknowledge that yes there are people out there with resumes that are incredibly well nurtured but I am not one those people since I haven’t gotten to have the chance to build a career trajectory that can make me as lucrative as them due this constant pummeling of bad economic waves of me trying to break into such as my industry which is tech where even in tough economic times I would have the industry connections or appeal to jump into a role without going months if not years without a job. Brian gives some incredible career advice but in my view companies do not hire out of kindness they hire because the force and strength of market presses them to do so.
I'm 2 months into new job hunt (got struck with "we're changing structures, btw, your agreement runs out, totally unrelated") and had one very promising job - gone through 3 interviews, prepered like hell, brought my own materials to each interview. Today got email from someone who came back from holiday with "oh, I talked to the team, they decided on someone else, did you get any feedback?". It crushed me. I'm so fucking done with job hunting, it's so fucking pointless.
Man, I can't even plan my own life 2 weeks in advance much less years these days. The advice at the end of the video is nice, but most people don't make "careers" out of dead-end customer service work, which is what most people are working in. I don't think there's much to be done concerning "job strategy in finding a job" when all the cards are held in employers' hands. You can only put in so much "strategy" before it's completely out of your hands. Edit: Also this dude is really up on the flowery office lingo. He says almost nothing meaningful toward your questions, it feels like, after listening to this whole video.
Customer service u have to change vompanies and climb the managers ladder, once u at top like regional manager then it becomes waiting game till executive retires and hope they hire internally, which most dont xd
Yes, you can tell this guy only ever thinks about the corporate echelons of the job market. Like probably less then 1% of the population is even a part of that world. Video wasent for people like me I guess.
I think having a plan is great in theory, but yeah my experience has been much more "I have to take whatever I can get because I can't afford to spend another 6+ months looking for a job I actually want." Once you have your feet planted in an industry, I think that advice becomes much more relevant. However, as a new grad, the strategy pretty much always has to start with "get job x" and the fact is being the grad who actually gets that job comes down so much more to luck than anything else. As someone else who's dealt with a layoff, I tried to apply the same analysis, but it doesn't really track. We were all trained and put into the systems, then told to wait for an assignment. I got up every day, checked emails and messages, self-taught trainings for hours, checked internal job postings. In my year with the company there wasn't a single project posting I could have applied to. In my last month or so, the internal project portal stopped working entirely, and when I brought it up with my managers and mentors, the advice was to fill out a ticket, keep trying, and wait. I was laid off before it was ever fixed.
It sucks, but you do need to plan years in advance. If you're stuck in customer service, start picking up a skill on the side, and figure out what you need to do to get a job. And it will take years in skill building or networking or anything else. You'll be competing against fresh college students who had 4 years to hone their skills. You shouldn't have to do this, but we're stuck in a ditch. All we can do is try to climb out and not waste energy being angry at whoever threw you down there.
yeah the guest was trying to not appear like he wasnt the reason himself. ..probably his maturity level hasnt incresed with his experience and age so he is an example of failing up..and what entitled can look like
Bruh. What strategies are you talking about? The only strategy is how am i gonna make next month rent without committing end-game. We need money. We need more money. Not some corporate talk about how to plan life strategically before you turn 12. People are not going to spend their precious little time they have after their overworked job and after life duties to plan some scenario that might happen with $14 in their bank account. Is selling drugs on the street considered a strategy? Cause that pays. How can we strategize when getting a job largely luck-based, timing, and who you know? I got my first job through a reference that worked at that particular place. Since then, I continue to lie and fluff up my resume to make it seem I did more when, in reality, I was just a retail employee. It's all bullshit. And I'm subscribed to him. This was largely disappointing. I was expecting more. I guess the only thing i got out of this is that i need to learn how to speak corporate without wanting to commit end-life.
There are things you can do at every experience level to try to give yourself an edge. Unfortunately for him, and career coaches, they tend to only focus on senior level employees. Because the truth is as a junior to mid level employee your options for owning your career are extremely limited. You lack skill, a network, brand. All those things usually take close to a decade to develop. Unless you just job hop like crazy.
The truth is for some people they can do everything right and they will never find success also. That's what a tight job market is suppose to result in. If there are more people than jobs, it's impossible anywhere close to everybody gets hired.
Amazon built a data center outside of Washington DC and is currently looking for HVAC techs and electricians I have been offered the same job by 4 different recruiters for less money then I currently make and would require me to move to the most expensive place to live on the east cost. They also want 12hr rotation shifts. Good luck that’s a firm no
Stay strong you’re making the right decision. Amazon can afford to pay its employees acceptable respectable wage , they choose not to so that greedy piece of 💩 can spend billions on his newest wife…
“It’s a victim mentality.” Wtf. Sounds like this guy in his own way might be a little disconnected. When you’re talking about people just coming out of school, entry level positions, why do you expect them to know any of this? These are not realistic expectations for the average teen.
Yeah like sure he can give advice on how to "stand out" as a candidate but at the end of the day there's gonna be 1 winner and 100+ losers. We ARE victims of a broken system.
@@watamatafoyu Listen more to a real lawyer rather than to me who just took a business-law class; but promises become enforceable when you give up something, or in this case, do something that sacrifices other options relying on the promise being kept. The simplest case is giving money to the person who made the promise; but here someone’s incurred costs of moving and/or gave up opportunities they’d have had if they remained where they were. Of course, suing over stuff like this costs money; and you have to weigh that and your chances of winning.
The small company I work at has reduced its workforce from 35 - 17 in the past year. No raises, no bonus. More work load for the remaining employees. Several of us are looking for a new job but it’s really hard right now. Not to mention that the few opportunities that are out there are offering lower wages, salaries than what we are currently earning.
The first step is understanding that the United States is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. The business cycle (where the economy goes into a crisis every 5-7 years) is not just about economic crisis. Recessions are a process where small companies go out of business and get acquired by big businesses for pennies on the dollar. Poor people (that's us) sell any stocks we might have accumulated to get by after we're laid off. Then rich people who still have money left over even in a recession can buy them for cheap. That's not all, though. The government also bails out the big corporations to the tune of billions. The end result is that the rich get richer and we get screwed. Greed is an ongoing process and a few hundred people having all the money is the result. The government we have now is obligated to act in the interest of these companies. Financing the MIC, performing military and covert operations to keep markets open for companies, not passing laws that would benefit the people at the expense of the companies. Any reform or regulation can only benefit the people to the extent that it doesn't hurt the companies. That's why reform isn't a viable path to solving the underlying problems.
To butcher Brian's catchphrase, you gotta become the CEO of You, Inc., id est, treat your career like a business. Depending on your talent and passion, it might be time to start a literal business. Supporting the small ones also helps.
@@niamhleeson3522 With all due respect, if all you know of economics is Marxist talking points, then you have much to unlearn before you can even begin learning.
I do like Bryan's Channel but I do heavily disagree with his advice at the end. I am 29 and have a fairly well rounded work history, but I've had the rug pulled out from under me and now I'm rebuilding my life in a new state. In my healing process, I learned that the corporate crap isn't worth it and I'm more focused on enjoying life. I've taken jobs that I (mostly) enjoy and keep an eye out on for my dream field even if it may be a niche . Life often changes in involuntary ways and I really don't think many people can upend their lives to get trainings or internships (I certainly didn't.)
Agism is so hard right now. Even me in my mid 40's am feeling like I'm starting to feel aged out working in IT/software. Unless you're a master in your expertise (which I am not), it's a tough road.
@@SurpriseMeJT They don't want inexperienced employees as well as too experienced. It doesn't make sense but hiring is incentivised to be full of legal discriminations
@@1queijocasthis, I'm sorry. But the plight of young versus seasoned employee is pretty much even. Both are sending in 100+ applications with nothing in return. The young lacks experience, and you don't want to spend the money to train them. The elder has too much, which means you have to pay them more than you want to. So neither gets hired.. This is what happens when the market is in your favor. And there's more people than there are jobs. So you can be stupidly picky. Because you got 500+ applications for one single position. And you want to spend the least amount of money possible on your employees. We are all at their Mercy.
Companies don't want anyone with less than 10 years of experience... However that often puts them in their mid 30s, which means they'd likely have hire salary expectations. So they'll go to the person in their 50s and offer them half of what they deserve, knowing that they're likely looking for anyone who would take them. The system just works! :D
I understand you saying people are missing skills but the issue is not skills. I have skills from every level up to regional management and every role up to that position both management and non management. I have more skills then i can even write but even with all that i am unable to get a basis customer service job.
In the last part of the interview, the recruiter pushed the need for the struggling seeker to strategize. Thats all people do though. They shouldn’t have to jump through all those hoops. Time is a limited resource for many, and we can’t all be shining beacons of a hiring managers perfection. We need less income inequality, and more realistic expectations. Bring back OTJ training and instate a UBI. People are not machines.
I had that happen. I was offered a job, borrowed the money to move, packed up, and moved 3,000 miles only to have the offer recinded less than 24 hoirs before i was supposed to start. Needless to say, i was pretty pissed off and blasted her for her terrible behavior. I then had to borrow MORE money to pay my rent because my part time, minimum wage job didn't cover my rent.
The value you share in these conversations are unmatched - ignore those people who continue to have a victim mindset - we need to accept reality for what it is and play the game. To those who want to argue & try to cast doubts on the work you do: "You're right, you'll never win" - for those who want results, seriously consider what Bryan shares
I found this to be disappointing. All I kept hearing was it is your fault for not getting hired. Because you didn't show up with all the training you could posably need for that possition. And how dare you not be able to purchase that training and certificates or diploma to prove you can do the job. You should have had a road plan to get those.
Yep. Just look at psych, the one field you'd think would known better. Every population is undeserved, we're hemorrhaging talent left and right as people retire or leave otherwise, but what does psych do? Open available seats? Offer more accredited programs? Maintain sensible entry criteria? Nope. Last I checked the programs that align with my theoretical orientation, 3.7GPA, 3-4 letters of recommendation, ample research experience, extra curriculars, and a glowing statement of purpose. And $200-300 in application fees, plus interviews. And you don't dare mention any experiences on the other side of the proverbial couch.
Yep, you're supposed to know the market, it's demands and fulfill those requirements using your own money. You take the monetary and time risk and if it doesn't pan out, it's your fault. I didn't buy into this certifcation collection game. It's BS. When I enter a work environment, things are done by culture and any Agile or ITIL based plan is loosely followed only in name to please executives.
Yeah he's basically saying the system is rigged and you have to take part in the system, so hold your nose and just eat the shit that they put in front of you.
25:02 I think there needs to be more of a culture of naming and shaming employers. We live in a society where employers can treat massive scores of candidates like trash and it should be reciprocated. People need to continue to be more vocal about the disgusting people and practices that arise during the job search. Companies respond to press. Branding is extremely valuable for companies and there needs to be fair repercussions for this actions.
I've been through a few mass layoffs. Why aren't companies looking within to keep people when layoffs are happening? They tell you, if you see something please apply and yet they are never considered. It's a joke!!!
I don't know how it is now, but when I was at IBM I knew a guy who got laid off 3x and found another position 3x. But he lived in a big city where we also had plants and that really helped him out. I never got laid off and could have stayed until 30+ years. But at 23 years in 2000, I finally resigned in disgust and never looked back. Been freelancing ever since.
I love the extra insight behind the curtain. It's comforting to know that there are actual people behind the masks that we hate, and genuine humanity and empathy exist, even in roles like theirs. I really can't agree with the advice given at the end, it's just not realistic. Imagine it, you're 18, just graduated high school. You probably have a ton of misconceptions about, well, just about everything. You probably don't understand how many things work (system-wise) for companies and organizations in general. You may or may not have a passion for a particular hobby, and yet the problem with job careers is that they didn't plan on working at a company 5-10 years ago, strategize and work on molding themselves into an ideal candidate for them? I'm sorry, that's either advice given solely to the few people dead set on a career, even after clearing up misconceptions, or people who have the freedom to take a broader approach to their careers, which isn't really relevant or applicable to anyone not going to college in this day and age. Realistically, most people in that situation are not in a position to be picky, and depending on their support network, may only be concerned with the ability the job gives them to feed and house themselves (which even currently, isn't guaranteed). Combine that with how power dynamics work in these situations, and how easy it is to lay off workers on a whim, and it's doesn't take much to figure out why newer entrants to the labor market aren't willing to tolerate the things that older generations take for granted. Eventually, some of those generation will have to enter leadership roles, especially when the labor market thins out as the oldest generation is either finally retiring or dying at their desks.
What a treat, my two fav hosts on the bleak employment picture ! i still have the odd dream about losing my job or worse yet, looking for a job-and i havent worked in over ten years[constantly broke!]
Engineering has svcked for decades. Management looks at engineers as a marginally necessary evil, though they create the products the company sells. And they are often paid far less than the a$$ sitters in management.
It is not only getting the interview, once they actually call you back the long process begins. First a 15 min phone call, then a first interview at the spot, then a secon interview with one more middle manager, the personality tests from the HR department. 2 tests like spatial and also personality. Then a final interview, if you even get that far.
Great video. The job market has become so competitive. It’s horrible! I’ve applied and had a ton of interviews, no job offer. Very frustrated and tired of getting the emails, we went with another candidate, your not qualified, over qualified, or we decided not to move with you candidacy. I wish I can be the one that gets the job offer 😞. Trying to get a job now, it’s like the odds winning the Powerball
The other thing that happens is they want a job title that sells for 80,000, but they list a 60,000 title and tell you they will need you to 'cross-train' for the other job... which will be 'over 50%' of your duties.
Im a therapist, one thing I learned quick about psychology is administrators love posting about themselves all over agency websites. I look at their websites and they have 15 administrators and five therapists. Meaning I would have to work for two other people’s salaries that both believe they should be making $200k a year. So if I ever go on vacation for even one day Ill have 15 people stopping by my office telling me how unloyal I am and how crappy of a therapist I became.
You also have to take into consideration that there are a lot of under qualified hiring managers who does the bare minimum and only got that position based on WHO they knew and feel threatened by someone who has a stacked resume. Some won’t even bring them to the interview process and if they do, they will not hire you because of fear of losing their job. I see it happening all the time here in Columbia SC!!!
I have a better idea. Why doesn't everyone just take three weeks off? If eeveryone took three weeks and did nothing, these corporate assholes would have to beg workers to come back. It would also throw a wrench in the gears of the political hacks too.
@@jackcarraway4707you're both right. It's called a general strike. And it would work if we could actually coordinate it. That coordination even amidst a single city would be incredibly difficult though. Keep in mind that US national elections have the highest turnout and 100s of billions built into advertising. And the last turnout in 2020 was 70%. People just lazy AF and settle into what they find comfortable. 70% of a city striking would do the trick, but we wouldn't get anywhere close to that amount.
I find that employers are not interested in building a relationship at all. When they call for an interview I get someone from india with a brutal accent asking me the stupidest questions for 20 minutes then they are like "ok now it's a mystery we might or might not contact you again dont call us! 6 weeks later another phone call "do you have experiwnce operating a CAT 2650 A2 long stick 2018 surveyor auto leveler bulldozer? And I'll be like no I operated a CAT 2650 auto leveler normal stick. And they will be like "oh I'm sorry your not qualified *click* 3 weeks later "We have an opening, it's $26 hour combo vac in anzac" I'm like wait I thought I wasn't qualified why are you offering me this job now???
@rustyscrapper At least you get responses. I've got businesses being chewed out by their parent corporations for not following their own recruiting policies. Most won't say anything to you one way or the other and the ones that do, want you to sign over your life to them for 30% fair market wage. These people are evil and sick.
To know you're weeks from losing your job to Artificial Intelligence is depressing. Was informed months ago and still haven't landed an interview. I have a mortgage, a son in 12th grade and a mother to care for. Too many people are applying for the same jobs.
It’s a complete disaster and as I’ve mentioned many times the employment numbers are also not accurate. I believe we could be facing a massive economic downfall as a result of decisions based on false statistics. Really a concerning time we’re in
@@DamonCassidyjust look at the inverted yield curve. The 10 year treasury now pays more than the two years. Every single time this has happened …Recession.
You might find what Rubyard Lynch has to say about this quite relevant. There is a lot to unpack with what he says but he says we have been in an environment of labor surpluses for quite awhile which of course encourages this kind of behavior from corporations. He ties all this back to an experiment by calhoun called the mice utopia. Where the population of mice grew to within 33% of its carrying capacity and then population collapsed and mental dysfunction skyrocketed along with mice no longer procreating. A lot of what you are seeing today seems to be following this trajectory with declining marriages and birthrates huge increases in mental illnesses etc.
It's so hypocritical that companies say working in office is so important yet many execs work away from the office most of the time and they outsource jobs to other countries with no problem?
The job marker is brutal and we’re constantly needing to learn and update our skills to keep up with this terrible job market. Even something as simple as DoorDash is extremely competitive in my area
33:00 ehhh it’s like saying why didn’t you buy a stock or house back then…or why didn’t you sail your boat out of X storm. Not everyone is psychic or can predict the future. If I knew bitcoin would take off In 2010, I’d buy 50 bitcoin when it was cheap
guy gives the most generic advice. "You should have a strategy for your career. And you should have had a strategy during the start of your career." And no elaboration on that. I assume by strategy he means you should have got a job that promoted better or wouldn't lay you off. So, great advice, very useful. Also this meathead really likes to ramble on.
I mean, generic advice works for a generic audience. What strategy you need as a tech worker vs. a musician vs. Being stuck on minimum wage labor varies immensely. The only shared ideas here is thst a road map helps. Find a road map and use that to make your own plans. Times suck right now, but of there's really zero jobs : plan for when jobs pop up again. Or re-train if you genuinely think jobs are never coming back. I don't think you need your entire career planned at 22 (i had plans shift immensely and I'm not even 30 yet), but a plan helps keep you on track.
What he doesn’t tell you it’s a numbers game. You’ve got to pump out endless resumes and go on endless interviews often getting your hopes up after a good interview and positive feedback. The process is grueling and soul crushing.
Its even hard for career switchers with multiple degrees trying to start something new. I just got an MBA from a pretty good program and I feel like it’s better for me to just start my own business instead of desperately try to get noticed to have even a shot at opportunity to build skills in the new career path im targeting. And it’s a real shame too because im nobody’s dummy. I have two engineering degrees on top of it but “LOL NOT THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE” is all recruiters see. Well ok. I’m smart and competent enough to do my own thing. Don’t beg me years later to come work for you. I tried. Many many times.
The problem is misinformation say one thing online on job platforms. Say another when you talk to HR. Say another when you show up. 3 times misinformation and how long do that hold for any human in the World. Just thing about that, how many times will you accept this?
At around the 33 minute mark, i feel many people might nit have a strategy because so many jobs seem to discourage it. Idk how many jobs i was rejected from where the recruiter or interviewer outright stated they were looking for more longevity, even though i had stated that should i get hired i planned on sticking around for more than 2-3 years.
I have just been ghosted after the last round of interview that was very positive. Just checked I applied to 360 jobs this year on linked in, and got 4 first round, 2 second round and this one 4th and final round of interview since then. I feel sorry for people who just graduated, I am here with 14 years of work experience, and 6 years in my field.
Thank you for highlighting how we (recruiters) advocate for candidates we believe in. That’s why I wrote in my book: be kind and respectful because when we believe in you, we’ll always go to bat for you.
At this point i think the real issue is there are no more jobs in this country. We filled all roles at this point. That is why we have to do large amounts of layoffs.
The problem with society’s employers is literally too many fingers in the pie making it a soup. The people came for pie, not soup. To make this a little more intellectual, there’s too many people in upper management trying to dictate what everybody’s doing, and let leads to extreme micromanagement, like with my job. There are Hundreds of higher-ups that gatekeep When it comes to moving up in a company now. On top of that, They have turned the working class into a fight pit, where only the most loyal peasants get to keep their job if they keep their mouth shut and don’t buck. Employers have no need for being loyal to their employees anymore. Hence, the reason you see pensions have been turned into useless 401(k)s. At every single Avenue that the working citizen tries to keep their life running on, corporations have found a way to monopolize and cease control over the middle and lower classes funds through addictive, additives, and positive reinforcement, loops to keep people sedated. The American people need to start looking at the United States as a giant testing laboratory, stop looking at society as if it’s not a complete lie. What has happened as we are following in the footsteps of the rat utopia experiments. What needs to happen is the people need to stand up and force these giant monopolized companies to break back down into singular entities and let them run their own courses. Corporations need to be broken apart and their subsidiary freed to make their own decisions. It’s time the people took back their power from all the corporations and incorporated subsidiaries. The big market corporations are the ones that got us into this predicament And it is the big corporations like Blackrock, And Vanguard who are asset management companies that are the ones that are driving up the costs of everything. Black rock and Vanguard on 90% of the market and asset management revenue. Which in poor people slang means They get paid to make sure that their shareholders make a profit. And who do these companies manage the assets of? Why every brand all across America that is not a mom and pop business or family business. If every company that you manage the assets of pay you to make sure that their profitable, that means that you can raise everyone’s prices all at once to make sure you squeeze out the most from the people who buy those products, a.k.a. we the majority people. What needs to happen is the rise of family owned businesses and local businesses, these big conglomerates need to be starved and disassembled for the good of the nation and the people . We are the people also need to start passing some laws that are enforced by the state and feds. We all grew up with the game, called Monopoly, and you won by bullying everyone else off of the map with your money, be that buying them out, or continuously trying to bankrupt the other players on the game board so that they are forced to sell their properties for a fraction of the cost to buy them. We are living in a society monopoly, where all of the big corporations and financial institutions have seized complete control over our society and now our writing the rules in which we get to play by. I think it’s time we take back our power and force these giant corporations and subsidiaries to break apart and have to become little companies again. And fix our fucking FDA to meet the same standards as the Foreign countries like Japan. Which that is another example of corporate overreach that is as plain as day, when tobacco companies took over our food industry, they focused on making our food, more addicting and unhealthy, so they can sell our poor peoples, dying and disease stricken bodies into the corporatized healthcare system that takes advantage of us and strips us of our natural health by putting us on thousands of different medication‘s to treat us for a lifetime instead of curing the problem at its source. Then we have medical bills we have to pay on top of all the other bills we have to pay. And then, when you die, your family gets to pay your debts that you left behind because you couldn’t keep up. Society, we live in as indentured servitude with no loyalty to the peasants whatsoever. We are living in a dystopian future where the employers could give less of a rats ass if their employees die, in fact, there are companies like Dow oil, and Walmart to name a few, that uses their own employees medical records to place bets on whether they’re going to die sooner or later, at which point they pull out life insurance policies on those employees and don’t tell them or their families about that and when they die, they collect free money for their corporation. And not a dime gets to be seen by the family members who lost their loved one in the process. If that’s not corporate greed, I don’t know what is. I’m not saying tear the whole system down I’m saying we need to put Laws in place that make these corporations play by set of rules that forces them to be honest, and the fines need to be jacked up so that these big corporations actually feel the hurt that they inflict upon the rest of the world. When you’re a multi billion dollar corporation you don’t feel the sting of $2 million fine. If you want to punish that company, take 50% of their assets and hit them with a very happy fine they have to pay or they forfeiture their entire company. It’s time we the people start playing hardball with companies and employers, it’s time we take back the power that is due to the people It’s time to bring the United States back into the light where it belongs instead of covered in a dank and dark miasma where these corporate overlords choke us out of every dollar and penny that we have working class people until we have nothing left to give
Well said. We desperately need another Teddy Roosevelt to tell our modern JP Morgan’s that he doesn’t want to “Fix it up.” TR had the balls to force the coal barons of the day to negotiate with the strikers, with real threats of nationalizing their companies and using the army to get the coal. Serious antitrust action is needed.
💚🩵💚🍻🥂 People also forget that a corporation has to get approved before it's permitted to exist as a corporation. When we caught baby food manufacturers deliberately conspiring to sell us products containing heavy metals (without our knowledge or consent), every executive involved should've gone to prison. No parole. Why do white collar criminals get to write off a fine for premeditated negligent homicide? Impoverished people are stacked in Idaho prisons for "presumptive positive controlled substance residue". Does an individual's dependency on bootleg Adderall pose a significant threat to public safety? Nope. If this was a civilized country, healthcare would be a constitutional right. Given that we're all supposedly entitled to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". Corporations who consider mass deaths a legitimate "business strategy" are a massive threat to the public. If prisons were actually intended to protect civilians from harm, they'd be full of executives from private equity and hedge funds.
He didn’t address the challenge for somebody older that is prepared and still doesn’t get callbacks. He only put the onus on the individual not being prepared, but what about those who are prepared and hiring managers’ bias against older employees.
The problem I have with this sort of video is that you can't REALLY say what you want to say, because your future employer might be watching the video. And you have people in the comments who likely work for these employers and would feel offended at the truth. Most everything you're saying is correct, it's just watered down and not really beneficial to anyone.
The practical tips for navigating is where you got me. "You should've started 5 years ago". Gtfo with that shit. The standarda are too high and people are lying about their experience. The realest thing you should be telling people is lie on the resumes. The idea that anyone is going to get through this by telling the truth is bullshit. They're already moving the goal posts, respond in kind.
You can lie up to the point where the recruiter or hiring manager asks you to explain in detail the steps about a bullet on your resume that you lied about. Then you’re toast. The only thing you can really lie about and get away with is your GPA.
My manager used to be a peer, she only agreed to take the manager job if her position was backfilled and she took lesser pay to get that agreement. Immediately after moving up the CTO rejected that deal but did agree to hiring someone in a different role in our team. After only receiving Visa applicants (our company will not sponsor or pay for moving expenses AND requires in office), another round enabled us to find someone who was willing to get their own Visa. On the day, the offer was submitted to HR, the company initiated lay offs and the position was eliminated. The applicant who had gone through 3 interviews, was told the position no longer exists. That to me was the worst corporate behavior. They broke every promise to my manager and there were no consequences.
I’ve honestly just got really lucky so far. I went to a well funded public school that taught me important skills/programs in my field, those skills were able to get me a few part-time jobs in college, those jobs and skills were able to get me into a good job even when I dropped out (and the job was a family run business with a super chill and generous millennial boss), and when I had to move on from that I was hired at a local non-profit that now paying for me to take classes in my field. If I lived somewhere with a more competitive market in my line of work there’d be no way I have the job I do. The downside is that I have very little options for moving on to something better in my city, so I’m having to consider moving states. While I’m glad I’m at least getting experience and free education, it’s because I’m being passed up for better positions for my bosses friend. And my new boss is horrible to work with. Feels like I’m stuck between a hard place and a rock, but hey at least in getting free education out of it.
i bet youre a female because youre honest about it all.. i wouldnt move though unless its only for pleasure..dont move unless you have the ideal job for your future.. because youll probably end up moving back in 5 to 10 yrs..trying to get a job there again. but only you know.
Many years ago I worked for a manager who wouldn’t allow HR to do anything except payroll and benefits. At first I thought he was wrong. But today I know how right he was.
My father bought a house and 1/3 acre lot in 1973 for 40K. His salary was 12K annually. He was a college prof with a PhD. He paid it off mostly by working himself. My mother worked part-time min wage job about 16hrs per week after most of us had graduated, and only made a small contribution to the mortgage, paid it off and sold 450K 15 years ago. Show me one person today who could even dream of that.
What I see.....During the initial phone screen, the person on the other end of the phone tells me what a great resume I have, and then proceeds to tell me why I am not a good fit for the role. WTF.....is this for real?????
only problem about talking with Creely is he still advocates using LinkedIn and he does have any power in his own job because all the resumes are run thru ATS software, most HR people never see more than the first 20 applicants. NOT THE BEST 20 the FIRST twenty...
Stop me if you’d heard this. Sharks smell blood, dogs smell fear, and humans smell bullshit. In business school we learn about customer experience and relationship building, but once we enter the workforce it becomes more about the stakeholder. Don’t get me wrong both are important, but it does seem that we sometimes put too much emphasis on revenue, and it comes at the cost of undermining the customer. Think the customer is ok with a small price hike if there’s reason behind it, but if you’re raising prices just because you have a window of opportunity (and continuing to do so), customer will catch on and take their business elsewhere. At the same time though, how many people can say they wouldn’t do the same thing if they were an executive? Hate to say it, but there’s a reason they’re spearheading the direction of their respective companies. Was I livid when I saw that a 16 oz. bottle of Dr Pepper was $2.50? You bet I was. Did I still buy it? Yeah… because, y’know, I was thirsty and craving a Dr Pepper 🙃
Yea don’t drink soda anymore unless you literally want your brain cells to die. Look up the study on carbon dots. You will be disgusted. I know you were using it as an example, but holy crap if I can save one person from going through what I have been through for the last ten years, it was worth it. The study is called “Endogenous Fluorescence Carbon Dots Derived from Food Items”
a 24oz beer in a can is $5.00 at a 7 eleven in downtown chicago..every brand an even $5.00. its facinating because why that number and is it legal and is it working for that store ? damn i wish i could ask them. ( i just visited there)
He lost me towards the end. He's saying the hurting managers are disconnected. Dude, he's also part of the disconnect. What kid is really looking at market trends other than, "What makes the most money that I wanna do" Sure, some do. But according to reality people generally take any job they can. We were taught that if you work a job that was good enough. And as I've gotten older getting a job requires having more requirements than getting into Harvard. We're talking about jobs that didn't require degrees just ten or twenty years ago. These jobs kept their older employees with fewer qualifications. And they can't hire the new generation unless they over qualify. The logic behind the job seeking process is so overwhelming. And what is this "entrepreneur mindset" an entrepreneur doesn't work a job, he makes jobs. I know I know, this isn't going to matter to anyone in hiring. But hey, it's the truth. It wasn't really like this. And the qualification inflation is just that.
Agree. Even when higher ups get let go, they are eligible for severances while lower level who are overworked get $0. The tracking systems used in the highering process sucks. I believe a lot of us are being overlooked.
couple of important things that could be driving it just from what i've seen myself : 1. pointless metrics that show no real substance - like a call center wanting short calls and closed issues, but no account for repeat call-ins or quality resolutions 2. market and internal business intelligence is no longer constructive analysis - it's become quantifying a field in a database and subjective program compilations (not unlike the above...) the bottom line is companies who use these assessments to make decisions end up making really bad decisions about staffing and production
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I hope this provided some value! Here is a link to Bryan’s channel: youtube.com/@alifeafterlayoff?si=DGI9hhx8I5IUtuC4
Corporate greed has always been over the top. I'd like to share some past examples: 1) IBM hired a lot of people 1977-1978. Every year in writing we were promised a full pension after 30 years. Then around 1995, IBM and all the other corporations illegally converted real pension to 401ks. Not only did we lose our pensions, but they only put roughly half of the current value into the 401k. Employees sued; won the first round; it went into appeals which could continue until everyone dies of old age. I eventually resigned.
2) IBM decided to split part of the field engineering (computer repair) force into a separate company. Techs chosen to be moved were put on one year's probation + had their salaries cut 25% even if they had 25+ years experience with excellent appraisals their entire career.
3) IBM and AT&T basically traded employees to take away seniority. Some work was "outsourced" to the other corporation along with the employees who lost their existing seniority and basically started over. And the second corporation did the same with a bunch of their employees.
As for ridiculous job requirements, I never recognized MY OWN JOB in the descriptions. And now I see silly job postings on LinkedIn all of the time. I've seen postings asking for more years of experience than a skill has existed. And most recently I saw a posting for a proofreader that required a MASTERS DEGREE. IF that really was true, it would have to specify a degree in WHAT SPECIALTY. It didn't.
Personally, my philosophy since resigning from IBM after 23 years was I never want another J.O.B. (Just Over Broke) in my life. I've successfully freelanced entirely online since 2000. Just this year they shut down what provided my primary income for the past six years. Within a month I picked up two clients on retainer to replace that income.
It's all greed period.
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Was this an actual interview between you two? Something feels off.
@@atlantic_love It did feel async
Fake job postings equals gaining your personal information to sell to someone else
My young son told me every place in town has help wanted sign but nobody is hiring.
Except fast food
I have 4 FinServ companies (well known) who did fake layoffs. How do I know. Jobs were posted 4 days ago and now are mysteriously no longer taking application submissions.
And data mining to test how low of a wage they can get away with before absolutely nobody on the planet will accept the job. If they think there's some 20 year old kid who's parents pay their bills that will take the job for the sake of having a job, a
They will take that person.
That's why people need to apply directly on a company website.
"I probably wasn't a good fit for HR because I showed alot of empathy ".....speaks volumes.
That set me back also
I seriously applied for a job as a therapist to be a Corporate People Person. A liaison between corporate and employees. I took a stupid test that said I had too much empathy, they also sold my info from the test I took. So basically they wanted a gaslighting spy for the position.
Very sad state
My son applied for a job in 2020. He gave his apartment people notice and gave his old employer notice, that he was moving because of a new job. About a week before he was supposed to catch his flight and his household goods were in transit, he found out the new job that he'd been accepted for was eliminated. His move had been out-of-pocket. Luckily, I had space in my home, where his family was able to stay, while he did job hunting for the next two months. One of the jobs said it could be done remotely, which looked great. There was a catch. When he did the interview, they said he was required to be in the office one day a week (four states away). Moving again was not an option.
This is why I don’t want to move for jobs. It should come with a guaranteed 3 months pay or something if they cancel… companies used to cover moving costs more frequently
‘Remote’ as it gets… love these postings. Bait and switch.
My dad did a remote job like that.
He bit the bullet, and just flew in one day a week.
Only god knows how many frequent flyers miles that man has. I don't even want to think about how much of his pay check went to delta and south west over the course of that year.
If he'd had to travel from where he'd been originally, it would have been almost as remote as it could get. He would have spent most of a day travelling to get there, by plane.
You wanna bet they wanted him in office one day a week so they could keep better track of him? They don't make us come to work for our benefit.
My boomer dad said I need to go into a business , ask for a paper application/store manager, hand them your paper resume. I told him there aren't any jobs you can do this at and you need to go online, but when you do, you will probably never hear from them again.
I've only seen one job in the last 12 years where you could go in and ask for a paper application. It was for a local pet store. My mom tried telling me the same thing, even dragged me around to a few locations at the beginning of college. The only one that didn't tell me to apply online was my mom's friend, who still told me that she had already hired everyone she was going to hire for the semester.
Yeah the last time I applied with a paper application was to a clothing store in a mall in... 2014, might have been early 2015? And before that it was my first job at McDonald's in 2012... Not sure why they think people still do paper applications in 2024 😅
@@natashasullivan4559boomers are genuinely that out of touch with reality, they can't or maybe just won't accept that the world is nothing like when they were our age, and they're the ones that ruined it.
It can still work, but you have to get really lucky, and be in the right market. If you manage to talk to the right manager at the right time in the right company, it's still possible. That being said, it's probably not a strategy I'd recommend because the time and resource investment is sooooo much more than going online. I'd say if there's one place you really want to work or a particular job that you're really interested in, it can be worth a try to go in person, express interest, ask questions. If you manage to have a good conversation with the right person who actually has some pull in hiring, it CAN get you in there. And honestly, if you've been actively searching for several months or even years at this point, it won't make it any worse to try.
I've maybe applied to 2 jobs with a paper application out of the hundreds I've applied to. And both of those were small business Mom and Pop places.
We're in the "You will own nothing and be happy" stage
@@shermanngjazz I agree
I'm tired of this comment. It's not true. It's:" You'll own nothing, you'll be miserable, and you won't be able to do shit about it." They're not even hiding it anymore.
It's feudalism (barely) in disguise. The middle and lower class are the peasants and the corporations are the new lords.
@@Rahshuthey don’t care about you-so you shouldn’t care about them.
@Rahshu the reason it is stated like that is because of English speaking parents. "You'll have this, and like it."
Not because we actually expect to like it.
Job searching really is draining and exhausting. Even when you got a lot of job experiences in a few areas, good credit score, clean driving record and no criminal record, you’re still competing with a thousand people who have the same thing. It’s ridiculous and employers who make you jump through hoops, do zoom calls, 15 minute phone interviews 2 hours worth of assessments when you get there doesn’t help because now they can find out from how you score if you’re even worth hiring and how much to pay you.
The issue is your not competing with people. When you ate looking for a job you are looking to work with 2 weeks after that you on to the next job.
You are only competing with the ats system. It's other factors besides your resume that is used to determine job eligibility.
Its insane when comapnies give you 5-8h home test/projecta to get a job when you been in industry for almost 10y and these decision makers usually not even qualified to test applicant knowledge. Tests should be for junior and graduate roles, not for senior positions... for senior roles interview should be sufficient. Cause you might be doing work for company which u not being compensated for.
It’s getting much worse as applicants figure out that not only can they use AI to spam thousands of job apps they barely qualify for, but must just to have any chance of actually getting one.
Funny thing. A family member of mine went to prison for 10 years. During that time I gained 3 degrees, while working. I own nothing, he has over 1million in assets. Most of what he has was just given to him. What's worse. I rent my house from him, and he I'd a slumlord. I should have been a criminal.
@@eskoelmwood5936never a good idea to compare your life to someone else's. Everyone have their trial and tribulation in this life.
Making 115M, this is the problem. Why can't these guys live on 5M? The other 110M could fund 1500 70K/yr staff salaries. These companies have executive staffs that are 100 deep. Layoffs could be avoided without this insane largesse. Why can't shareholders have reasonable expectations based on business cycles?
It’s called too big to fail and monopolys
Greed is good thats why.
Why not? Small and medium business probably do. Unfortunately, with growth comes inertia.
Because a lot of that money is unrealized in the form of stocks and investments. They don’t just have 115 million liquid cash they can spread around. Plus, the people making that type of money are always taking massive risks that could make or break the company, so they have a huge responsibility. If they were artificially limited how much they can make, no one would be willing to take those risks that can result in enormous success.
They need to look to the Nintendo ceos. When times were lean they took home way less than other ceos
HR is the most evil thing ever perpetrated against the work force.
HR departments should be outlawed.
Human Resource are about using humans as a resource now about being a resource for humans. They are 100% about protecting the company not the people.
That’s because HR is not what they used to be 20+ years ago. Now HR is a joke whereas they used to have a voice in how a company actually functioned
@@kiki11974 The last time I had to deal with an HR rep. I got fired for being harassed by a female coworker. In addition to that I can't find a layer that will take the case when they sited me being a "forty something year old man". Our system is beyond broken.
People and Culture! Because rebranding helps.
And be replaced by a legal team who actually knows workplace law.
The more I get older, I’m realizing no one is really an 'adult/grownup'. We are all just winging it.
Haha yeah absolutely right
Thank god I’m retired now ..geez the things younger people have to go through today …
Be happy and be very very protective and smart.
There is a major campaign to bankrupt all retired or anyone trying to be self employed or a side business. One way or another. Assets, real estate, etc.
Then it's a complete no way you'll be able to get back into employment.
@@Chris-t7m5tit's not just the campaigns for the retired, here in Philly, there is a silent drive to evict and bankrupt the working class in the city, I watched the elderly in retirement apts being slum pushed out or gouged for more money
You are probably the only “boomer” that understands the high stakes and hopelessness people my age feel. I’m 26 and I don’t know how I will do this for another 39 years. I’m 5 years into my career and I’m already looking for ways to get out!
@@BrianGivensYtube this
I wish I could afford to retire. I have been financially unstable since being laid off April 2022. These companies don't want to hire people of a certain age even with an awesome resume. They need to get a clue & stop ghosting too. I find that rude & disrespectful. Frankly, I'm tired & burned out from applying but I have no other choice as I won't be opening a business of my own.
I just can't get over how often I get contacted by recruiters from companies that passed on my application previously. Why on earth would I waste my time a second time?
Sometimes its an accident. I was recruited, went through 2 stages, and got rejected. That same recruiter found me on another site months later. Still had his email so I just shot him saying "you want me to try again?"
They are still human, and dealing with hundreds of others. Unless there's a paper trail (like, responding to me when the chat log above was from months ago) I don't wanna be too hard on simple mistakes like that.
@@raze2012_it's still obviously sloppy.
Ugh. Once I had a recruiter tell me a job was filled the day before a second interview. Later the manager asked why I didn't show up for the interview. Yeah, red flag just move on. Especially, if the company is shady and trying to avoid paying an outside recruiter firm by calling you back.
Because they are only looking for the really, really, really desperate.
Since my layoff, & going through all the stages, I feel like I'm finally on the outside looking in, wondering why the heck I ever thought playing their games would get me somewhere in life? Success? A sense of accomplishment? Sacrificed time with family. How did i overlook this for 18 years?! Smh. To die at a desk before retiring and no one noticing for 4 days... That's what my future would've held for me.
Normally it's purely "loss aversion" which makes us believe that we need to hang on to something we fear losing.
Yep. Clock in 5 mins late, you're fired. Dead at desk 4 days, no one notices.
@SurpriseMeJT I mean, if I lose my Health insurance I'll lose my custody. So it is loss eversion, but I don't think that's the real problem
Watch Falling Down.
I totally get where you're coming from. After my last layoff, I realized how much time I wasted playing the corporate game. I even started using an AI tool during interviews to deal with the trivia questions, just to get ahead. It helped me land a new role faster, and honestly, gave me the time back to focus on what matters. 18 years is a long time to realize that the corporate ladder might not be worth climbing if it means sacrificing everything else!
I don't often apply to a job that doesn't list a salary range. The employer should have an idea of what money they have to pay to the job. If they don't list anything, I assume it is super low and they are trying to waste time.
I absolutely agree!
The range is easy to find. Just Google salary for any given position.
HR uses the exact same sources. With few exceptions, they will likely offer you whatever the midpoint salary is. 😳
There's a recent law in California that forces all employers to list the salary in the job description. Hopefully more states will follow.
As I sit here at 26 doing manual labor for $1K a week. No benefits, no insurance, no retirement, no holiday pay, and constantly traveling. I am still wondering what I am supposed to be building towards when I dont know if I actually have a chance to buy property or a work truck.
I suggest you work towards a better trade or craft that will allow you to move out of the US and be a profitable member of their society because this one is toast. I hate to say it but the US is overstretched so it is bound to do a massive recoil which could be catastrophic don't be around when it happens.
The trades need hardworking people like you. Check out your local community college, which may provide training in trades, such as HVAC, plumbing, electrical, and automotive.
What do you think the likelihood is of that happening?
I feel the same! Work trucks are unbelievably expensive and almost considering a 1980 gmc sierra because that’s so much more affordable than any recent used truck haha
@DamonCassidy currently driving a 1994 Ford myself
Retired now. This is what I've observed with ghost jobs: 1) Companies used to have actually post a job before they could get an H1b candidate. Posts would be made with low pay but huge skill requirements. They did not want anyone to really apply. 2) Competitive programs with DOD would have 3 or 4 competing companies posting similar jobs although only one would ever have the contract. The award is often delayed or never happens, but when there is an award they need to hit the ground running. btw, Department of Labor tracks the job postings and concludes that there is a desperate shortage of people with these skills. 3) The only way to see resumes is to post a job. Hiring manager wanting to see what's out there will post a position for everything from a summer intern to a senior staff scientist for a particular skill just to see what's out there. Often, after drawing in a stack of resumes they will decide to hire no one. Department of Labor again. I've witnessed all of these in my career.
3) The only way to see resumes is to post a job?
That doesn't quite smell right. Employers can see lots and lots of semi-public resumes on indeed without posting a job.
This will not stop until CEO pay is tied to average employee pay. Maybe if congressional pay was tied to average constituent pay, our legislature would make that happen. Also - good luck to these companies when they're stuck reckoning with a majority Gen Z workforce.
Haha, the county west of dc is the 2nd wealthiest in the country yet they produce nothing.
Job postings have always been insane. I remember in 2001 a job posting requiring 5+ years of experience in Windows 2000!!! Literally no one alive including the developers could claim that.
I saw one in 2020 where it asked for 5 years experience in FastAPI. FastAPI was invented in 2018.The creator himself saw the job listing and thought it was funny so he tweeted about how he wouldn't be able to get the job.
@@ami4511 At least you could blame the idiot recruiter for being ignorant as literally the YEAR of creation is not in the title of the product itself lol
The HR people and the recruiters are so stupid about what these jobs are they just make shit up.
These get posted on reddit--so similar... needing 5+ years of various tech that are just a few years old. Comes from ignorant ppl or "disconnected" hiring agent.
Industrial companies post adds looking for people with experience programming machining software that is proprietary and you can only get if you already work there.
Corporatocracy. The rise of greedy and authoritarian corporations. "You will eat the bugs and be happy".
That's it.
Zee bugz
I'm sorry but for majority of Americans, there is no voting. It's either take the job or starve.
@@EliParker28 Not if you get a gate kept license
Glad I’m in a healthcare profession and in a unionized environment. This corporate nonsense is exhausting!
I've considered making that move over to healthcare but even that seems to be getting corporatized here in FL😢
gonna join a trade union myself when I'm done with trade school for HVAC. I am only in the school just to get some time to myself, Learn some skills, and learn about the trade and the options they bring before committing to it. Previous job searches had messed my mind up and I didn't want to get straight back into work. Gotta toughen my mind before going in.
One thing I found funny is I have turned down interviews. And have been thanked. By hr and recruiters. For not ghosting them out right in the process.
Not all of them are soulless ass hats….. but it’s still very very slim of a window.
Unions need to be cleaned up of corruption and all employees need a union unless they work for a very ethical privately owned small business. Corporate employees found that out the hard way when corporations took away the pensions we were promised in writing every year for decades. That is when we found out if you don't have a union contract, that promise in writing means nothing.
I work in the steel industry in a non unionized corporation that's one of the biggest steel distributors in America. I had no issues with the hiring process. Didn't have to jump through hoops or anything they take anyone as long as you can use a tape measure and computer and build you up into the worker they need over months. I think it's less about unionization and more about the culture of the corporation and integrity of the people involved
All this advice is absolute dog shit, it doesn’t mean anything if the economic environment is trash. If there is no economic prosperity aka competition among companies there simply not going to be a surplus of jobs where it warrants sensible logically hiring practices to take place as such that we currently are asking a ridiculous list of requirements to entry to mid career candidates such as myself have been experiencing. There simply is no jobs to begin with to cater to the massive influx of candidates entering the job market. Companies have plateau with innovation and we can go down the rabbit hole on how we got here all we want but it is not going to change stuff until we as populous demand things to change and idk 🤷♂️ how that is going to happen when we have a current system that is making quite difficult to do business as in terms as here in the US.
Or maybe you can't get hired because you can't even spell or write properly...
I felt bits of this during 35:00, but I understand the spirit of what he's saying here. Sometimes you can do nothing wrong and lose, and that's basically this job market right now.
However, just because no one is hiring now doesn't mean they won't be hiring later. This BS happens in cycles. If we're in an ebb, hunker down and survive, but then prep yourself for the flow. If there's no art jobs, work on your portfolio. Make sure you don't look rusty once the economy (that we pretend is goo) is actually good.
Also, VOTE!. Make sure your reps know this is a pressing issue and that they need to do something about it if they want another term.
@@raze2012_ Couldn’t have said it any better. I don’t want to come out as being all negative and thats is it the world is cooked and to give up all together, on the contrary lets be realistic here the economy is dog shit due to bad policies affecting it. I have noticed that all the companies that I have been hired at in the past have hired me because they were forced to hire because they were loosing out to other companies candidates. I have to acknowledge that yes there are people out there with resumes that are incredibly well nurtured but I am not one those people since I haven’t gotten to have the chance to build a career trajectory that can make me as lucrative as them due this constant pummeling of bad economic waves of me trying to break into such as my industry which is tech where even in tough economic times I would have the industry connections or appeal to jump into a role without going months if not years without a job. Brian gives some incredible career advice but in my view companies do not hire out of kindness they hire because the force and strength of market presses them to do so.
Tell me a time when there has EVER been more jobs than unemployed
@@skyblazeeterno 2012-2021 never had a problem getting a job till now.
I'm out. 22:45 into the video and it's become a sob fest defending recruiters. Recruiters are part of the problem.
Yeah I’m at 17:56 and like WTF.
how is he a recruiter that cant get another job? oh because he wasnt teachable and wasnt motivated to compete for better positions at amazon lol
I'm 2 months into new job hunt (got struck with "we're changing structures, btw, your agreement runs out, totally unrelated") and had one very promising job - gone through 3 interviews, prepered like hell, brought my own materials to each interview. Today got email from someone who came back from holiday with "oh, I talked to the team, they decided on someone else, did you get any feedback?". It crushed me. I'm so fucking done with job hunting, it's so fucking pointless.
The job market is so ludicrously broken that it's way easier to start your own business than to get a job.
And it's easier to scam everybody with AI than start a business.
Knock, knock Neo
It's always been easy to start a business. On the other hand, being successful is a whole other story. 😳
@@watamatafoyuthat sounds like a business 😊
That's what I did, after the military, and getting 3 degrees. Companies are looking for people they think they can take advantage of.
Man, I can't even plan my own life 2 weeks in advance much less years these days. The advice at the end of the video is nice, but most people don't make "careers" out of dead-end customer service work, which is what most people are working in. I don't think there's much to be done concerning "job strategy in finding a job" when all the cards are held in employers' hands. You can only put in so much "strategy" before it's completely out of your hands. Edit: Also this dude is really up on the flowery office lingo. He says almost nothing meaningful toward your questions, it feels like, after listening to this whole video.
Customer service u have to change vompanies and climb the managers ladder, once u at top like regional manager then it becomes waiting game till executive retires and hope they hire internally, which most dont xd
Yes, you can tell this guy only ever thinks about the corporate echelons of the job market. Like probably less then 1% of the population is even a part of that world. Video wasent for people like me I guess.
I think having a plan is great in theory, but yeah my experience has been much more "I have to take whatever I can get because I can't afford to spend another 6+ months looking for a job I actually want." Once you have your feet planted in an industry, I think that advice becomes much more relevant. However, as a new grad, the strategy pretty much always has to start with "get job x" and the fact is being the grad who actually gets that job comes down so much more to luck than anything else.
As someone else who's dealt with a layoff, I tried to apply the same analysis, but it doesn't really track. We were all trained and put into the systems, then told to wait for an assignment. I got up every day, checked emails and messages, self-taught trainings for hours, checked internal job postings. In my year with the company there wasn't a single project posting I could have applied to. In my last month or so, the internal project portal stopped working entirely, and when I brought it up with my managers and mentors, the advice was to fill out a ticket, keep trying, and wait. I was laid off before it was ever fixed.
It sucks, but you do need to plan years in advance. If you're stuck in customer service, start picking up a skill on the side, and figure out what you need to do to get a job. And it will take years in skill building or networking or anything else. You'll be competing against fresh college students who had 4 years to hone their skills.
You shouldn't have to do this, but we're stuck in a ditch. All we can do is try to climb out and not waste energy being angry at whoever threw you down there.
yeah the guest was trying to not appear like he wasnt the reason himself. ..probably his maturity level hasnt incresed with his experience and age so he is an example of failing up..and what entitled can look like
Bruh. What strategies are you talking about? The only strategy is how am i gonna make next month rent without committing end-game.
We need money. We need more money. Not some corporate talk about how to plan life strategically before you turn 12. People are not going to spend their precious little time they have after their overworked job and after life duties to plan some scenario that might happen with $14 in their bank account. Is selling drugs on the street considered a strategy? Cause that pays. How can we strategize when getting a job largely luck-based, timing, and who you know? I got my first job through a reference that worked at that particular place. Since then, I continue to lie and fluff up my resume to make it seem I did more when, in reality, I was just a retail employee. It's all bullshit. And I'm subscribed to him. This was largely disappointing. I was expecting more. I guess the only thing i got out of this is that i need to learn how to speak corporate without wanting to commit end-life.
I'm with you. I haven't seen the show but a couple of minutes. But $ jobs rent 14 dollars in the bank it's a fucking joke
The only strategy to put you in CEO chair is to fall out of privileged vajaijai
There are things you can do at every experience level to try to give yourself an edge. Unfortunately for him, and career coaches, they tend to only focus on senior level employees. Because the truth is as a junior to mid level employee your options for owning your career are extremely limited. You lack skill, a network, brand. All those things usually take close to a decade to develop. Unless you just job hop like crazy.
The truth is for some people they can do everything right and they will never find success also. That's what a tight job market is suppose to result in. If there are more people than jobs, it's impossible anywhere close to everybody gets hired.
Right there with ya. End of my rope, as they say.
Amazon built a data center outside of Washington DC and is currently looking for HVAC techs and electricians I have been offered the same job by 4 different recruiters for less money then I currently make and would require me to move to the most expensive place to live on the east cost. They also want 12hr rotation shifts. Good luck that’s a firm no
Stay strong you’re making the right decision. Amazon can afford to pay its employees acceptable respectable wage , they choose not to so that greedy piece of 💩 can spend billions on his newest wife…
“It’s a victim mentality.” Wtf. Sounds like this guy in his own way might be a little disconnected. When you’re talking about people just coming out of school, entry level positions, why do you expect them to know any of this? These are not realistic expectations for the average teen.
Yeah like sure he can give advice on how to "stand out" as a candidate but at the end of the day there's gonna be 1 winner and 100+ losers. We ARE victims of a broken system.
Because you have all the world's information in your pocket. If you go in unprepared uts your fault.
If a job gets yanked after you travel and before you start, that’s legally “promisory estoppel”
Do companies get prosecuted for that?
@@watamatafoyu Listen more to a real lawyer rather than to me who just took a business-law class; but promises become enforceable when you give up something, or in this case, do something that sacrifices other options relying on the promise being kept. The simplest case is giving money to the person who made the promise; but here someone’s incurred costs of moving and/or gave up opportunities they’d have had if they remained where they were.
Of course, suing over stuff like this costs money; and you have to weigh that and your chances of winning.
Only in certain jurisdictions like California. Elsewhere it’s not
Bruv...even in Indonesia, 3rd world "poor" country, the HR could be prosecuted for that.
@@nurlindafsihotang49 not in American capitalism 😜
The small company I work at has reduced its workforce from 35 - 17 in the past year. No raises, no bonus. More work load for the remaining employees. Several of us are looking for a new job but it’s really hard right now. Not to mention that the few opportunities that are out there are offering lower wages, salaries than what we are currently earning.
We know the problems, what are the solutions.
Laws to regulate labor
The first step is understanding that the United States is a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie.
The business cycle (where the economy goes into a crisis every 5-7 years) is not just about economic crisis. Recessions are a process where small companies go out of business and get acquired by big businesses for pennies on the dollar. Poor people (that's us) sell any stocks we might have accumulated to get by after we're laid off. Then rich people who still have money left over even in a recession can buy them for cheap. That's not all, though. The government also bails out the big corporations to the tune of billions. The end result is that the rich get richer and we get screwed. Greed is an ongoing process and a few hundred people having all the money is the result.
The government we have now is obligated to act in the interest of these companies. Financing the MIC, performing military and covert operations to keep markets open for companies, not passing laws that would benefit the people at the expense of the companies. Any reform or regulation can only benefit the people to the extent that it doesn't hurt the companies. That's why reform isn't a viable path to solving the underlying problems.
Find a way to cheat the system.
To butcher Brian's catchphrase, you gotta become the CEO of You, Inc., id est, treat your career like a business. Depending on your talent and passion, it might be time to start a literal business. Supporting the small ones also helps.
@@niamhleeson3522
With all due respect, if all you know of economics is Marxist talking points, then you have much to unlearn before you can even begin learning.
I do like Bryan's Channel but I do heavily disagree with his advice at the end. I am 29 and have a fairly well rounded work history, but I've had the rug pulled out from under me and now I'm rebuilding my life in a new state. In my healing process, I learned that the corporate crap isn't worth it and I'm more focused on enjoying life. I've taken jobs that I (mostly) enjoy and keep an eye out on for my dream field even if it may be a niche . Life often changes in involuntary ways and I really don't think many people can upend their lives to get trainings or internships (I certainly didn't.)
I resonate, and am also 29
Not true is that the first job is hardest to find. Actually it is your last job. Try to find a job when you are 56 yo and 9 years before retirement.
Agism is so hard right now. Even me in my mid 40's am feeling like I'm starting to feel aged out working in IT/software. Unless you're a master in your expertise (which I am not), it's a tough road.
@@SurpriseMeJT They don't want inexperienced employees as well as too experienced. It doesn't make sense but hiring is incentivised to be full of legal discriminations
@@SurpriseMeJT if u been in industry for 15+ years why u not master in your field?
@@1queijocasthis, I'm sorry. But the plight of young versus seasoned employee is pretty much even.
Both are sending in 100+ applications with nothing in return. The young lacks experience, and you don't want to spend the money to train them. The elder has too much, which means you have to pay them more than you want to. So neither gets hired..
This is what happens when the market is in your favor. And there's more people than there are jobs. So you can be stupidly picky. Because you got 500+ applications for one single position. And you want to spend the least amount of money possible on your employees. We are all at their Mercy.
Companies don't want anyone with less than 10 years of experience... However that often puts them in their mid 30s, which means they'd likely have hire salary expectations. So they'll go to the person in their 50s and offer them half of what they deserve, knowing that they're likely looking for anyone who would take them.
The system just works! :D
I understand you saying people are missing skills but the issue is not skills. I have skills from every level up to regional management and every role up to that position both management and non management.
I have more skills then i can even write but even with all that i am unable to get a basis customer service job.
Why even bother applying for jobs if it’s all fake? I have given up.
No, we don’t need to chill out. These companies need to administer their job postings. That’s their job. I’ve been fired for less!
Requires: Bachelor's Degree and 5 years experience..pay: $17/hour
lol. True
In the last part of the interview, the recruiter pushed the need for the struggling seeker to strategize. Thats all people do though. They shouldn’t have to jump through all those hoops. Time is a limited resource for many, and we can’t all be shining beacons of a hiring managers perfection. We need less income inequality, and more realistic expectations. Bring back OTJ training and instate a UBI. People are not machines.
I had that happen. I was offered a job, borrowed the money to move, packed up, and moved 3,000 miles only to have the offer recinded less than 24 hoirs before i was supposed to start. Needless to say, i was pretty pissed off and blasted her for her terrible behavior. I then had to borrow MORE money to pay my rent because my part time, minimum wage job didn't cover my rent.
Had a lot of fun with this conversation!
Thanks for the input!
Y'all are still new to me but cool to see the collab. 😎👍
Dude it bothers me how much fault you try to place on the individual job seeker, when this is clearly a flawed system we’re in
It doesn’t help to think about where you fucked up 5 or 10 years ago, people still deserve a living wage
The value you share in these conversations are unmatched - ignore those people who continue to have a victim mindset - we need to accept reality for what it is and play the game. To those who want to argue & try to cast doubts on the work you do: "You're right, you'll never win" - for those who want results, seriously consider what Bryan shares
I found this to be disappointing. All I kept hearing was it is your fault for not getting hired. Because you didn't show up with all the training you could posably need for that possition. And how dare you not be able to purchase that training and certificates or diploma to prove you can do the job. You should have had a road plan to get those.
Yep. Just look at psych, the one field you'd think would known better. Every population is undeserved, we're hemorrhaging talent left and right as people retire or leave otherwise, but what does psych do? Open available seats? Offer more accredited programs? Maintain sensible entry criteria? Nope. Last I checked the programs that align with my theoretical orientation, 3.7GPA, 3-4 letters of recommendation, ample research experience, extra curriculars, and a glowing statement of purpose. And $200-300 in application fees, plus interviews. And you don't dare mention any experiences on the other side of the proverbial couch.
Yep, you're supposed to know the market, it's demands and fulfill those requirements using your own money. You take the monetary and time risk and if it doesn't pan out, it's your fault.
I didn't buy into this certifcation collection game. It's BS. When I enter a work environment, things are done by culture and any Agile or ITIL based plan is loosely followed only in name to please executives.
Yeah he's basically saying the system is rigged and you have to take part in the system, so hold your nose and just eat the shit that they put in front of you.
@@safetyegg That is a reality to a certain extent if you want money in the short term.
@@SurpriseMeJTagile is hilarious. It only works if you have a team that would've done fine without it anyway!
Really good stuff. EVERYTHING is broken right now - jobs, politics, housing, mental health, etc. What ISN'T on the list?
25:02 I think there needs to be more of a culture of naming and shaming employers. We live in a society where employers can treat massive scores of candidates like trash and it should be reciprocated. People need to continue to be more vocal about the disgusting people and practices that arise during the job search. Companies respond to press. Branding is extremely valuable for companies and there needs to be fair repercussions for this actions.
Ever heard of Glassdoor?
What’s insulting is the government and politicians telling us how great the job market is.
Very much so. They are technically correct that the jobs are being created... they are just fake jobs. If anything they are lying by omission
I've been through a few mass layoffs. Why aren't companies looking within to keep people when layoffs are happening? They tell you, if you see something please apply and yet they are never considered. It's a joke!!!
I don't know how it is now, but when I was at IBM I knew a guy who got laid off 3x and found another position 3x. But he lived in a big city where we also had plants and that really helped him out. I never got laid off and could have stayed until 30+ years. But at 23 years in 2000, I finally resigned in disgust and never looked back. Been freelancing ever since.
I love the extra insight behind the curtain. It's comforting to know that there are actual people behind the masks that we hate, and genuine humanity and empathy exist, even in roles like theirs.
I really can't agree with the advice given at the end, it's just not realistic. Imagine it, you're 18, just graduated high school. You probably have a ton of misconceptions about, well, just about everything. You probably don't understand how many things work (system-wise) for companies and organizations in general. You may or may not have a passion for a particular hobby, and yet the problem with job careers is that they didn't plan on working at a company 5-10 years ago, strategize and work on molding themselves into an ideal candidate for them?
I'm sorry, that's either advice given solely to the few people dead set on a career, even after clearing up misconceptions, or people who have the freedom to take a broader approach to their careers, which isn't really relevant or applicable to anyone not going to college in this day and age. Realistically, most people in that situation are not in a position to be picky, and depending on their support network, may only be concerned with the ability the job gives them to feed and house themselves (which even currently, isn't guaranteed).
Combine that with how power dynamics work in these situations, and how easy it is to lay off workers on a whim, and it's doesn't take much to figure out why newer entrants to the labor market aren't willing to tolerate the things that older generations take for granted. Eventually, some of those generation will have to enter leadership roles, especially when the labor market thins out as the oldest generation is either finally retiring or dying at their desks.
What a treat, my two fav hosts on the bleak employment picture ! i still have the odd dream about losing my job or worse yet, looking for a job-and i havent worked in over ten years[constantly broke!]
Ill never understand this. Management mismanage the company, but the people below them get let go.
Yes it’s absolutely ridiculous! Makes no sense at all
Lot of jobs in IT are taken by foreign visa holders.
The ‘rules to the game’ are what’s wrong. Saying it’s not likely to change IS enabling crooked shit to continue.
Crazy how bad things are even for people with engineering degrees
Engineering has svcked for decades. Management looks at engineers as a marginally necessary evil, though they create the products the company sells. And they are often paid far less than the a$$ sitters in management.
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It is not only getting the interview, once they actually call you back the long process begins. First a 15 min phone call, then a first interview at the spot, then a secon interview with one more middle manager, the personality tests from the HR department. 2 tests like spatial and also personality. Then a final interview, if you even get that far.
And all of that to be a cashier at Office Depot
Then an offer letter and waiting for a start date that never arrives......
Great video. The job market has become so competitive. It’s horrible! I’ve applied and had a ton of interviews, no job offer. Very frustrated and tired of getting the emails, we went with another candidate, your not qualified, over qualified, or we decided not to move with you candidacy. I wish I can be the one that gets the job offer 😞. Trying to get a job now, it’s like the odds winning the Powerball
Hiring managers are a waste of space and labor costs these days. Most of them do not do their jobs.
The other thing that happens is they want a job title that sells for 80,000, but they list a 60,000 title and tell you they will need you to 'cross-train' for the other job... which will be 'over 50%' of your duties.
Im a therapist, one thing I learned quick about psychology is administrators love posting about themselves all over agency websites. I look at their websites and they have 15 administrators and five therapists. Meaning I would have to work for two other people’s salaries that both believe they should be making $200k a year. So if I ever go on vacation for even one day Ill have 15 people stopping by my office telling me how unloyal I am and how crappy of a therapist I became.
You also have to take into consideration that there are a lot of under qualified hiring managers who does the bare minimum and only got that position based on WHO they knew and feel threatened by someone who has a stacked resume. Some won’t even bring them to the interview process and if they do, they will not hire you because of fear of losing their job. I see it happening all the time here in Columbia SC!!!
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that the hiring manager and general manager of every place I've ever worked at shared the same last name
I have a better idea. Why doesn't everyone just take three weeks off? If eeveryone took three weeks and did nothing, these corporate assholes would have to beg workers to come back. It would also throw a wrench in the gears of the political hacks too.
We had a strategy like that; it's called striking.
@@jackcarraway4707you're both right. It's called a general strike. And it would work if we could actually coordinate it.
That coordination even amidst a single city would be incredibly difficult though. Keep in mind that US national elections have the highest turnout and 100s of billions built into advertising. And the last turnout in 2020 was 70%.
People just lazy AF and settle into what they find comfortable. 70% of a city striking would do the trick, but we wouldn't get anywhere close to that amount.
actually their solution is
MIGRANTS MORE MIGRANTS MORE MIGRANTS MORE MIGRANTS!
I find that employers are not interested in building a relationship at all.
When they call for an interview I get someone from india with a brutal accent asking me the stupidest questions for 20 minutes then they are like "ok now it's a mystery we might or might not contact you again dont call us!
6 weeks later another phone call "do you have experiwnce operating a CAT 2650 A2 long stick 2018 surveyor auto leveler bulldozer?
And I'll be like no I operated a CAT 2650 auto leveler normal stick.
And they will be like "oh I'm sorry your not qualified *click*
3 weeks later "We have an opening, it's $26 hour combo vac in anzac"
I'm like wait I thought I wasn't qualified why are you offering me this job now???
@rustyscrapper At least you get responses. I've got businesses being chewed out by their parent corporations for not following their own recruiting policies. Most won't say anything to you one way or the other and the ones that do, want you to sign over your life to them for 30% fair market wage. These people are evil and sick.
To know you're weeks from losing your job to Artificial Intelligence is depressing. Was informed months ago and still haven't landed an interview. I have a mortgage, a son in 12th grade and a mother to care for. Too many people are applying for the same jobs.
It’s a complete disaster and as I’ve mentioned many times the employment numbers are also not accurate. I believe we could be facing a massive economic downfall as a result of decisions based on false statistics. Really a concerning time we’re in
@@DamonCassidyjust look at the inverted yield curve. The 10 year treasury now pays more than the two years. Every single time this has happened …Recession.
You might find what Rubyard Lynch has to say about this quite relevant. There is a lot to unpack with what he says but he says we have been in an environment of labor surpluses for quite awhile which of course encourages this kind of behavior from corporations. He ties all this back to an experiment by calhoun called the mice utopia. Where the population of mice grew to within 33% of its carrying capacity and then population collapsed and mental dysfunction skyrocketed along with mice no longer procreating. A lot of what you are seeing today seems to be following this trajectory with declining marriages and birthrates huge increases in mental illnesses etc.
Yes I absolutely agree! I would love to talk with him! Hoping to get him on the channel soon
It's so hypocritical that companies say working in office is so important yet many execs work away from the office most of the time and they outsource jobs to other countries with no problem?
The job marker is brutal and we’re constantly needing to learn and update our skills to keep up with this terrible job market. Even something as simple as DoorDash is extremely competitive in my area
It's honestly disgusting and exhausting to say the least smh
33:00 ehhh it’s like saying why didn’t you buy a stock or house back then…or why didn’t you sail your boat out of X storm. Not everyone is psychic or can predict the future.
If I knew bitcoin would take off In 2010, I’d buy 50 bitcoin when it was cheap
guy gives the most generic advice. "You should have a strategy for your career. And you should have had a strategy during the start of your career." And no elaboration on that. I assume by strategy he means you should have got a job that promoted better or wouldn't lay you off. So, great advice, very useful. Also this meathead really likes to ramble on.
I mean, generic advice works for a generic audience. What strategy you need as a tech worker vs. a musician vs. Being stuck on minimum wage labor varies immensely.
The only shared ideas here is thst a road map helps. Find a road map and use that to make your own plans. Times suck right now, but of there's really zero jobs : plan for when jobs pop up again. Or re-train if you genuinely think jobs are never coming back. I don't think you need your entire career planned at 22 (i had plans shift immensely and I'm not even 30 yet), but a plan helps keep you on track.
What he doesn’t tell you it’s a numbers game. You’ve got to pump out endless resumes and go on endless interviews often getting your hopes up after a good interview and positive feedback. The process is grueling and soul crushing.
It's all about money for stockholders and chief executives everyone else is Expendable!
Its even hard for career switchers with multiple degrees trying to start something new. I just got an MBA from a pretty good program and I feel like it’s better for me to just start my own business instead of desperately try to get noticed to have even a shot at opportunity to build skills in the new career path im targeting. And it’s a real shame too because im nobody’s dummy. I have two engineering degrees on top of it but “LOL NOT THE RIGHT EXPERIENCE” is all recruiters see. Well ok. I’m smart and competent enough to do my own thing. Don’t beg me years later to come work for you. I tried. Many many times.
they want someone they can hire then fire and pay less ..also if youre without a job then it means to many engineers in the world lol
@@spazzpeddlerclosing you misunderstand. I left engineering.
Its all B.S. it's all who you know - your skills and actual worth be darned.
Profound. This should have 20x more views. As a young person especially, this hurts.
Thank you so much for your kind words! So glad it was able to provide value. I hope you are doing well
The problem is misinformation say one thing online on job platforms.
Say another when you talk to HR.
Say another when you show up.
3 times misinformation and how long do that hold for any human in the World.
Just thing about that, how many times will you accept this?
At around the 33 minute mark, i feel many people might nit have a strategy because so many jobs seem to discourage it. Idk how many jobs i was rejected from where the recruiter or interviewer outright stated they were looking for more longevity, even though i had stated that should i get hired i planned on sticking around for more than 2-3 years.
At this point lie and say you're sticking around for 10 maybe 15 years
I have just been ghosted after the last round of interview that was very positive. Just checked I applied to 360 jobs this year on linked in, and got 4 first round, 2 second round and this one 4th and final round of interview since then. I feel sorry for people who just graduated, I am here with 14 years of work experience, and 6 years in my field.
I think it should be illegal to complete a stock buy back if they have had more than 0.5% of the total employees laid off in the last 18mo
Love that you both did a collab. Amazing to see your channel grow, Damon!
One word… nepotism
Thank you for highlighting how we (recruiters) advocate for candidates we believe in. That’s why I wrote in my book: be kind and respectful because when we believe in you, we’ll always go to bat for you.
Lol. I’ve never met a recruiter in my life that wasn’t a scumbag caring all about their fee for placement
At this point i think the real issue is there are no more jobs in this country. We filled all roles at this point. That is why we have to do large amounts of layoffs.
The problem with society’s employers is literally too many fingers in the pie making it a soup.
The people came for pie, not soup.
To make this a little more intellectual, there’s too many people in upper management trying to dictate what everybody’s doing, and let leads to extreme micromanagement, like with my job.
There are Hundreds of higher-ups that gatekeep When it comes to moving up in a company now.
On top of that, They have turned the working class into a fight pit, where only the most loyal peasants get to keep their job if they keep their mouth shut and don’t buck.
Employers have no need for being loyal to their employees anymore. Hence, the reason you see pensions have been turned into useless 401(k)s.
At every single Avenue that the working citizen tries to keep their life running on, corporations have found a way to monopolize and cease control over the middle and lower classes funds through addictive, additives, and positive reinforcement, loops to keep people sedated.
The American people need to start looking at the United States as a giant testing laboratory, stop looking at society as if it’s not a complete lie.
What has happened as we are following in the footsteps of the rat utopia experiments.
What needs to happen is the people need to stand up and force these giant monopolized companies to break back down into singular entities and let them run their own courses.
Corporations need to be broken apart and their subsidiary freed to make their own decisions.
It’s time the people took back their power from all the corporations and incorporated subsidiaries.
The big market corporations are the ones that got us into this predicament And it is the big corporations like Blackrock, And Vanguard who are asset management companies that are the ones that are driving up the costs of everything.
Black rock and Vanguard on 90% of the market and asset management revenue. Which in poor people slang means They get paid to make sure that their shareholders make a profit.
And who do these companies manage the assets of? Why every brand all across America that is not a mom and pop business or family business.
If every company that you manage the assets of pay you to make sure that their profitable, that means that you can raise everyone’s prices all at once to make sure you squeeze out the most from the people who buy those products, a.k.a. we the majority people.
What needs to happen is the rise of family owned businesses and local businesses, these big conglomerates need to be starved and disassembled for the good of the nation and the people .
We are the people also need to start passing some laws that are enforced by the state and feds.
We all grew up with the game, called Monopoly, and you won by bullying everyone else off of the map with your money, be that buying them out, or continuously trying to bankrupt the other players on the game board so that they are forced to sell their properties for a fraction of the cost to buy them.
We are living in a society monopoly, where all of the big corporations and financial institutions have seized complete control over our society and now our writing the rules in which we get to play by.
I think it’s time we take back our power and force these giant corporations and subsidiaries to break apart and have to become little companies again.
And fix our fucking FDA to meet the same standards as the Foreign countries like Japan.
Which that is another example of corporate overreach that is as plain as day, when tobacco companies took over our food industry, they focused on making our food, more addicting and unhealthy, so they can sell our poor peoples, dying and disease stricken bodies into the corporatized healthcare system that takes advantage of us and strips us of our natural health by putting us on thousands of different medication‘s to treat us for a lifetime instead of curing the problem at its source.
Then we have medical bills we have to pay on top of all the other bills we have to pay.
And then, when you die, your family gets to pay your debts that you left behind because you couldn’t keep up.
Society, we live in as indentured servitude with no loyalty to the peasants whatsoever.
We are living in a dystopian future where the employers could give less of a rats ass if their employees die, in fact, there are companies like Dow oil, and Walmart to name a few, that uses their own employees medical records to place bets on whether they’re going to die sooner or later, at which point they pull out life insurance policies on those employees and don’t tell them or their families about that and when they die, they collect free money for their corporation.
And not a dime gets to be seen by the family members who lost their loved one in the process.
If that’s not corporate greed, I don’t know what is.
I’m not saying tear the whole system down I’m saying we need to put Laws in place that make these corporations play by set of rules that forces them to be honest, and the fines need to be jacked up so that these big corporations actually feel the hurt that they inflict upon the rest of the world.
When you’re a multi billion dollar corporation you don’t feel the sting of $2 million fine.
If you want to punish that company, take 50% of their assets and hit them with a very happy fine they have to pay or they forfeiture their entire company.
It’s time we the people start playing hardball with companies and employers, it’s time we take back the power that is due to the people
It’s time to bring the United States back into the light where it belongs instead of covered in a dank and dark miasma where these corporate overlords choke us out of every dollar and penny that we have working class people until we have nothing left to give
Well said. We desperately need another Teddy Roosevelt to tell our modern JP Morgan’s that he doesn’t want to “Fix it up.” TR had the balls to force the coal barons of the day to negotiate with the strikers, with real threats of nationalizing their companies and using the army to get the coal. Serious antitrust action is needed.
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People also forget that a corporation has to get approved before it's permitted to exist as a corporation.
When we caught baby food manufacturers deliberately conspiring to sell us products containing heavy metals (without our knowledge or consent), every executive involved should've gone to prison. No parole. Why do white collar criminals get to write off a fine for premeditated negligent homicide?
Impoverished people are stacked in Idaho prisons for "presumptive positive controlled substance residue". Does an individual's dependency on bootleg Adderall pose a significant threat to public safety? Nope.
If this was a civilized country, healthcare would be a constitutional right. Given that we're all supposedly entitled to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness".
Corporations who consider mass deaths a legitimate "business strategy" are a massive threat to the public. If prisons were actually intended to protect civilians from harm, they'd be full of executives from private equity and hedge funds.
Thank u !!! The leadership team who makes All the Decisions feel Non of the recourse!!! Thank u!!!
Dude's talking about strategy like a religion. None of that was useful.
Clicked through and found out he's a self help guy. Figures.
the main problem with HR departments is they are there to protect the company...not the employees.
This is an excellent interview. Thanks to you both. ❤
So glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for reaching out🤍
My favorite are insane pay expectations. Like here's a management position that requires 5-7 years experience on-site in LA pay is 50k.
He didn’t address the challenge for somebody older that is prepared and still doesn’t get callbacks. He only put the onus on the individual not being prepared, but what about those who are prepared and hiring managers’ bias against older employees.
The problem I have with this sort of video is that you can't REALLY say what you want to say, because your future employer might be watching the video. And you have people in the comments who likely work for these employers and would feel offended at the truth. Most everything you're saying is correct, it's just watered down and not really beneficial to anyone.
The practical tips for navigating is where you got me. "You should've started 5 years ago".
Gtfo with that shit. The standarda are too high and people are lying about their experience. The realest thing you should be telling people is lie on the resumes. The idea that anyone is going to get through this by telling the truth is bullshit.
They're already moving the goal posts, respond in kind.
You can lie up to the point where the recruiter or hiring manager asks you to explain in detail the steps about a bullet on your resume that you lied about. Then you’re toast. The only thing you can really lie about and get away with is your GPA.
My manager used to be a peer, she only agreed to take the manager job if her position was backfilled and she took lesser pay to get that agreement. Immediately after moving up the CTO rejected that deal but did agree to hiring someone in a different role in our team. After only receiving Visa applicants (our company will not sponsor or pay for moving expenses AND requires in office), another round enabled us to find someone who was willing to get their own Visa. On the day, the offer was submitted to HR, the company initiated lay offs and the position was eliminated. The applicant who had gone through 3 interviews, was told the position no longer exists. That to me was the worst corporate behavior. They broke every promise to my manager and there were no consequences.
I’ve honestly just got really lucky so far. I went to a well funded public school that taught me important skills/programs in my field, those skills were able to get me a few part-time jobs in college, those jobs and skills were able to get me into a good job even when I dropped out (and the job was a family run business with a super chill and generous millennial boss), and when I had to move on from that I was hired at a local non-profit that now paying for me to take classes in my field. If I lived somewhere with a more competitive market in my line of work there’d be no way I have the job I do. The downside is that I have very little options for moving on to something better in my city, so I’m having to consider moving states. While I’m glad I’m at least getting experience and free education, it’s because I’m being passed up for better positions for my bosses friend. And my new boss is horrible to work with. Feels like I’m stuck between a hard place and a rock, but hey at least in getting free education out of it.
i bet youre a female because youre honest about it all.. i wouldnt move though unless its only for pleasure..dont move unless you have the ideal job for your future.. because youll probably end up moving back in 5 to 10 yrs..trying to get a job there again. but only you know.
Many years ago I worked for a manager who wouldn’t allow HR to do anything except payroll and benefits. At first I thought he was wrong. But today I know how right he was.
My father bought a house and 1/3 acre lot in 1973 for 40K. His salary was 12K annually. He was a college prof with a PhD. He paid it off mostly by working himself. My mother worked part-time min wage job about 16hrs per week after most of us had graduated, and only made a small contribution to the mortgage, paid it off and sold 450K 15 years ago. Show me one person today who could even dream of that.
B. Is a class act in today's job world. I am using his material to get a job. It is a total different job world. He speaks the truth.
What I see.....During the initial phone screen, the person on the other end of the phone tells me what a great resume I have, and then proceeds to tell me why I am not a good fit for the role. WTF.....is this for real?????
Thank you for the great insight to the corporate recruitment process.
In a creative field. 3 months of daily applications and still unemployed.
only problem about talking with Creely is he still advocates using LinkedIn and he does have any power in his own job because all the resumes are run thru ATS software, most HR people never see more than the first 20 applicants. NOT THE BEST 20 the FIRST twenty...
Stop me if you’d heard this. Sharks smell blood, dogs smell fear, and humans smell bullshit. In business school we learn about customer experience and relationship building, but once we enter the workforce it becomes more about the stakeholder. Don’t get me wrong both are important, but it does seem that we sometimes put too much emphasis on revenue, and it comes at the cost of undermining the customer. Think the customer is ok with a small price hike if there’s reason behind it, but if you’re raising prices just because you have a window of opportunity (and continuing to do so), customer will catch on and take their business elsewhere.
At the same time though, how many people can say they wouldn’t do the same thing if they were an executive? Hate to say it, but there’s a reason they’re spearheading the direction of their respective companies. Was I livid when I saw that a 16 oz. bottle of Dr Pepper was $2.50? You bet I was. Did I still buy it? Yeah… because, y’know, I was thirsty and craving a Dr Pepper 🙃
Yea don’t drink soda anymore unless you literally want your brain cells to die. Look up the study on carbon dots. You will be disgusted.
I know you were using it as an example, but holy crap if I can save one person from going through what I have been through for the last ten years, it was worth it.
The study is called “Endogenous Fluorescence Carbon Dots Derived from Food Items”
a 24oz beer in a can is $5.00 at a 7 eleven in downtown chicago..every brand an even $5.00. its facinating because why that number and is it legal and is it working for that store ? damn i wish i could ask them. ( i just visited there)
He lost me towards the end. He's saying the hurting managers are disconnected. Dude, he's also part of the disconnect. What kid is really looking at market trends other than, "What makes the most money that I wanna do" Sure, some do. But according to reality people generally take any job they can. We were taught that if you work a job that was good enough. And as I've gotten older getting a job requires having more requirements than getting into Harvard.
We're talking about jobs that didn't require degrees just ten or twenty years ago. These jobs kept their older employees with fewer qualifications. And they can't hire the new generation unless they over qualify.
The logic behind the job seeking process is so overwhelming.
And what is this "entrepreneur mindset" an entrepreneur doesn't work a job, he makes jobs.
I know I know, this isn't going to matter to anyone in hiring. But hey, it's the truth. It wasn't really like this. And the qualification inflation is just that.
Bryan is a good advocate of "For the Employee". Really nice to see you got him as a guest in your channel.
Agree. Even when higher ups get let go, they are eligible for severances while lower level who are overworked get $0. The tracking systems used in the highering process sucks. I believe a lot of us are being overlooked.
couple of important things that could be driving it just from what i've seen myself :
1. pointless metrics that show no real substance - like a call center wanting short calls and closed issues, but no account for repeat call-ins or quality resolutions
2. market and internal business intelligence is no longer constructive analysis - it's become quantifying a field in a database and subjective program compilations (not unlike the above...)
the bottom line is companies who use these assessments to make decisions end up making really bad decisions about staffing and production
I've made it several final rounds and waited and have never received more than the generic. This is after spending hours prepping presentations etc.