I actually had a huge "OHHH!" moment at the end with the "ant trail". I have never understood so easily before. Thank you so much for your videos dude.
There are many components to studying anatomy. One place I found that successfully combines these is the Sebs Study Crammer (check it out on google) definately the most helpful course that I have ever seen. look at this extraordinary website.
i really like your videos mr proko. all of your videos keep being useful even when i avoid using them. they save time from sifting through countless anatomy studies that a lot of the time dont explain as much.
Hey Stan, do you think that you'll ever have something on how to draw kids? I realize that a lot of the anatomy from your videos would still apply, but I'm just curious about what you feel is important in that area that's different from drawing adults. Still loving the anatomy videos, though. They've been helping a ton.
Ferdand of the Underworld In my future "Advanced Portrait Drawing" course I will teach drawing kids heads. As for drawing kids bodies.. Maybe something in a future figure drawing or illustration course. But I don't think I'll do "Anatomy of kids".
Proko Proko you rock-o thanks for all the energy and thought and well everything you putting on those videos seriously great job. I used to have a big problem with my poses their body motion looked like frozen ugly bodies with details and well i wanted to look them to look more dynamic and natural your videos especially the spine and the rib cage videos was amazing they helped me to improved a lot still not mastered it far away from that goal but well iam in a good way. thx a gain keep doing what you like .
Interesting to note: at 1:37 he mentions that the bottom of the sternum (minus the xiphoid process) is halfway between pit of the neck and the bottom of the ribcage. At 2:26 he adds the xiphoid process.
This feels so much easier than the pelvis! I still struggle to draw everything right, the spine is not that easy, but it's manageable, but I grew tired of trying to draw pelvises (do you say that?! x), so I moved on, and man, that feels do to draw something that looks right!
Hi Stan. Your lessons are really inspirational and I learnt a lot. There's just a question. What is the form of the rib cage when the person is stooping, like picking something from the ground? Will the rib cage be twisted?
What puzzles me about the rib cage as a box, is that the front plane is confined to the costal cartilage, which is considerably narrower than the entire rib cage (according to Hale, the rib cage fits in a 2x2x1 box, so the front view should fit a square). So, the side planes are supposed to bulge out considerably, and, as a consequence, cannot be modeled as simple flat planes. Could proko shed some light on this?
@@ProkoTV Let's see if we can sort this out. When you see the ribcage from the front, the costal cartilage is a relatively small part of the front view. So, for the rib cage as a box, the front plane of the box will be too narrow. To get a box with correct proportions, where does the 'missing width' go to?
@@izakvanlangevelde8597 You're right that the rib cage is not a perfect box, and the costal cartilage is indeed a relatively small part of the front view. The box analogy serves as a simplified way to understand the rib cage's structure and its planes. The "missing width" you're mentioning relates to the curvature of the ribs as they extend from the costal cartilage to the side and back planes. The side planes do bulge out, and this is where the full width of the rib cage is accounted for. When we simplify the rib cage as a box, we are essentially trying to capture the most basic structure and planes of the rib cage. In reality, the rib cage is more complex and organic in shape, with ribs curving from the front to the back. Hale's diagrams have the ribs existing above and below the boxes, so we know this is more of a baseline than a rigid rule to adhere to. While using a box to represent the rib cage can be helpful when first learning about its structure, it is essential to understand that it's a simplified model, and the actual rib cage has more rounded and complex forms.
Stan Prokopenko Noted. Do you plan to update the anatomy apps at some point in the future with a female skeleton, or will they all be male Loomis proportions?
Thanks, Proko. I'm having a bit of a hard time trying to visualize what's happening when you draw that line that goes from the back of the ribcage to the sternum, at 6:59 Shouldn't the line follow the bottom contour of the "box", which goes more to the left?
allluckyseven Good question, I can see how that's confusing. The box form is a simplified version of the overall volume to show the structure better. The lines of the box follow the planes. The curve to the sternum follows the tips of the bottom ribs (which curve toward the front plane more) and then along the edge of the cartilage (thoracic arch).
I thought the thoracic section of the spine rotates around it's axis. It's possible to rotate chest around 45 dgr and most of it is in the thoracic section, so I don't get why you never show the rotation on drawings. 4:05 photo is a perfect example of pushing t he rib cage rotation to the limits and that sketch on the right side looks nothing like what's on the photo. :( 5:43 - Not really... It's a bit exaggerated, but just slightly. That's exactly the curve you'd expect from rotating this part of spine around it's axis.
Shaggy, you are correct. The rib cage does twist and bend. In fact, in the world of weight lifting, you can find numerous videos on the subject of increasing Thoracic extension, which means increasing the range of movement to bend your thoracic spine backwards. Weight lifters need this flexibility in order to lift a bar straight over their head. If the Thoracic spine extends, then the rib cage must also bend. So it is frustrating that in the field of drawing, everyone assumes the rib cage doesn't bend or twist.
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I actually had a huge "OHHH!" moment at the end with the "ant trail". I have never understood so easily before. Thank you so much for your videos dude.
This videos just make me want to grab a pencil right now, the medic gave me a prescription and means more proko.
Man Proko, I'll tell everybody. You dah man.
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There are many components to studying anatomy. One place I found that successfully combines these is the Sebs Study Crammer (check it out on google) definately the most helpful course that I have ever seen. look at this extraordinary website.
i really like your videos mr proko. all of your videos keep being useful even when i avoid using them. they save time from sifting through countless anatomy studies that a lot of the time dont explain as much.
I thought ribcage was easy , yeah its not
Hey Stan, do you think that you'll ever have something on how to draw kids?
I realize that a lot of the anatomy from your videos would still apply, but I'm just curious about what you feel is important in that area that's different from drawing adults.
Still loving the anatomy videos, though. They've been helping a ton.
Ferdand of the Underworld In my future "Advanced Portrait Drawing" course I will teach drawing kids heads. As for drawing kids bodies.. Maybe something in a future figure drawing or illustration course. But I don't think I'll do "Anatomy of kids".
Proko That's just what I was wondering. Thank you very much for responding!
I hope you keep up the great work, too!
Proko Proko you rock-o thanks for all the energy and thought and well everything you putting on those videos seriously great job.
I used to have a big problem with my poses their body motion looked like frozen ugly bodies with details and well i wanted to look them to look more dynamic and natural your videos especially the spine and the rib cage videos was amazing they helped me to improved a lot still not mastered it far away from that goal but well iam in a good way. thx a gain keep doing what you like .
Proko, I admire your artworks, you are a master, my friend. You got a bless from the Gods !
this is mindblowing
bless you Proko!
Interesting to note: at 1:37 he mentions that the bottom of the sternum (minus the xiphoid process) is halfway between pit of the neck and the bottom of the ribcage. At 2:26 he adds the xiphoid process.
This feels so much easier than the pelvis! I still struggle to draw everything right, the spine is not that easy, but it's manageable, but I grew tired of trying to draw pelvises (do you say that?! x), so I moved on, and man, that feels do to draw something that looks right!
Yeah, the pelvis is pretty tricky. It's very complex.
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Do we really need to draw the details of the skeleton when we're drawing a figure or just the shapes will suffice?
It depends on the model or figure ur drawing.
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I relly like your videos, Im learn so much, thanks!!!
Hmm, I figured I'd see more comments. This is such a helpful video, even today!
Could you make a Self-portrait?! That should be interesting!
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what drawing books you advice us to buy for body studying ?
Hi Stan. Your lessons are really inspirational and I learnt a lot. There's just a question. What is the form of the rib cage when the person is stooping, like picking something from the ground? Will the rib cage be twisted?
ye it would m8 the reibs are attached to the spine
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Thank for this lessons.....💪
Damn. Promo is just so satisfying to learn from
The rib cage goes SNAP SNAP SNAP!
What type of pencil did you use
What puzzles me about the rib cage as a box, is that the front plane is confined to the costal cartilage, which is considerably narrower than the entire rib cage (according to Hale, the rib cage fits in a 2x2x1 box, so the front view should fit a square). So, the side planes are supposed to bulge out considerably, and, as a consequence, cannot be modeled as simple flat planes. Could proko shed some light on this?
Reading this, I'm not exactly sure what your question is. But I'd be happy to be of help!
@@ProkoTV Let's see if we can sort this out. When you see the ribcage from the front, the costal cartilage is a relatively small part of the front view. So, for the rib cage as a box, the front plane of the box will be too narrow. To get a box with correct proportions, where does the 'missing width' go to?
@@izakvanlangevelde8597 You're right that the rib cage is not a perfect box, and the costal cartilage is indeed a relatively small part of the front view. The box analogy serves as a simplified way to understand the rib cage's structure and its planes.
The "missing width" you're mentioning relates to the curvature of the ribs as they extend from the costal cartilage to the side and back planes. The side planes do bulge out, and this is where the full width of the rib cage is accounted for. When we simplify the rib cage as a box, we are essentially trying to capture the most basic structure and planes of the rib cage. In reality, the rib cage is more complex and organic in shape, with ribs curving from the front to the back. Hale's diagrams have the ribs existing above and below the boxes, so we know this is more of a baseline than a rigid rule to adhere to.
While using a box to represent the rib cage can be helpful when first learning about its structure, it is essential to understand that it's a simplified model, and the actual rib cage has more rounded and complex forms.
@@ProkoTV Thanks for sorting this out!
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The round shape isn't for me, but the box shape will be SO helpful for simplifying ribcage in perspective...
Really good video!
why did you use that picture
i love the ant trail to visualize the cross contour line... makes it easier to imagine for some reason...
i DIDNT UNDER STAND THE LINES LIKE WERE IS THE EDGE OF WHAT YOU ARE DRAWING
In the premium version, do you show how much the model's spine actually rotates, in the image where the trapezius exaggerates the curve?
kifanga I don't, sorry. But the Skelly App has pretty accurate spine rotations. www.proko.com/skellyapp
Stan Prokopenko Noted. Do you plan to update the anatomy apps at some point in the future with a female skeleton, or will they all be male Loomis proportions?
kifanga If I recall correctly, male and female Loomis are basically the same, just female is less boxy?
Could you please do another video on heads... a more feminine head cause the drawimgs that are in it look more like superman.
Thanks, Proko.
I'm having a bit of a hard time trying to visualize what's happening when you draw that line that goes from the back of the ribcage to the sternum, at 6:59
Shouldn't the line follow the bottom contour of the "box", which goes more to the left?
allluckyseven Good question, I can see how that's confusing. The box form is a simplified version of the overall volume to show the structure better. The lines of the box follow the planes. The curve to the sternum follows the tips of the bottom ribs (which curve toward the front plane more) and then along the edge of the cartilage (thoracic arch).
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Hello ! I really like your video , gave me great help. I would like to ask your permission to put your video spread to China. Can it?
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I thought the thoracic section of the spine rotates around it's axis. It's possible to rotate chest around 45 dgr and most of it is in the thoracic section, so I don't get why you never show the rotation on drawings. 4:05 photo is a perfect example of pushing t he rib cage rotation to the limits and that sketch on the right side looks nothing like what's on the photo. :(
5:43 - Not really... It's a bit exaggerated, but just slightly. That's exactly the curve you'd expect from rotating this part of spine around it's axis.
Shaggy, you are correct. The rib cage does twist and bend. In fact, in the world of weight lifting, you can find numerous videos on the subject of increasing Thoracic extension, which means increasing the range of movement to bend your thoracic spine backwards. Weight lifters need this flexibility in order to lift a bar straight over their head. If the Thoracic spine extends, then the rib cage must also bend. So it is frustrating that in the field of drawing, everyone assumes the rib cage doesn't bend or twist.
whats the measurment for the back plane bottom line, you didn't mention how to decide where its proximate placement is
Could you please draw and shade a skeleton for us ?
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oh... looks like I will redo the assignment of the las video
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I can't find the post of this video on your facebook page :(
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Thank you so much for this video and opportunity!
Can you teach the golden ratio
Can I draw a human whit the robo bean?
I don't understand this whay, I know how to draw axonometric but this god
Dang
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is it just me or does the guys right buttcheek look really weird?
fritzki1 It does look weird, but that's because it's pressing against his foot.
This is too fucking hard.
Just draw them a lot and it will get easier....if you think this is too hard and quit, what makes you think you will be able to draw people?
@@KlearChristalyeah i dont think they think they'll be able to draw people
Im getting scared of da pencil
Man this is to complicated for a 12 year old
i thought the picture you had was of a dude and u censored it as a joke, but i think its an older woman. pls answer im so confused
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rude AF
this can not be all wright ! not . a form for two part , not one for base shape .!?
one by ones .
Ok,lets be honest. How many undertale fans here trying to draw ribs?
No homework?
I can not understand something it is very helpless video I hope you are understanding what I say please please please please make other video oh please please my brother please
Very bad lol ,