The Best Gaming Headsets aren't "Gaming" Headsets
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2019
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wow the gsp mic sounds like its straight from a 2010 mw2 lobby
azhlvy Sounded awful. I was amazed...
At that point it’s worth buying a cheap cardioid mic
Honestly I'd rather buy a $20 Red Dragon headset than that shit. For $200 I'd be fuckin' fumin' if that's what I got. Hell, a pair of ear buds with the stereotypical Blue Snowball mic would be a better set-up.
Idk why u guys expect for a wireless headset to have a good mic.. Rofl
@@benshiro5008 the 2nd set of headphones had a pretty good mic, and they were wireless..
I didn't expect to be rick rolled in a headset review..
i know right? I was like "bruuuuh"
I aint gonna be rick rolled, imma head out.
where?
Me neither but there it was
Whats rickroll?
Unbelievable how a great brand of headset like Sennheiser has such a terrible microphone.
VuHien2011 they make headphones not mics
They make mics too. But he obviously clipped the signal heavily by having the gain too high in the video. Have to say though, that the sound wasn't impressive anyway.
@@notwetsyrup9936 I know that hence, my remark. I should have said headphone, not headset. But when you know they have the engineering expertise to make among the best headphones, you would think they know how to make a semi decent microphone or even buy it from another manufacturer.
prolly cause it's wireless
@@Shad0wolf0 I have hard time to believe that because it is wireless, it can't be better than that. I have a Sony bluetooth headphone and the sound is quite decent. There is plenty of bandwidth in a bluetooth connection to move enough data for a quality sound. And it works both ways. If there is enough bandwidth to generate a sound, there must be enough bandwidth to record a sound.
4:33 "This is the wired varient, there is also a wired version" Oops.
Noticed it too
Me to
Heard that 2
I died
So interesting
9:14 why is a matchstick testing out headphones, NGL he seems kinda chill doe
Bruh
That got me so damn bad
It's 11 pm were I live and u got me waking up my neighbor's lmfao
Omfg 🤷♂️
He do be vibing doe
Dammmmmmmn
I was VERY tempted to buy the GSP 370s as my first wireless pair of headsets, but couldn't find reviews. Instead I went for the arctis pro + gamedac for £140 brand new. Only regret is the short usb cable, though they sound amazing. Much better than my cloud 2s which I loved.
I own the Beyerdynamic mmx 300 G2 and they are awesome for gaming with friends, nice sound and they fit very comfortably for 3 hour gaming sessions (when im lucky). I don't really have time anymore as an adult to game for more than that at one time but I think they would be awesome for longer sessions too! the mic is clear and the audio delivered during gaming is more than sufficient and able to give me good awareness of my surroundings!
I also own a pair of Beyerdynamic DT1990 Pro's that I use for gaming alone and listening to music. I run them with an audioengine D1 headphone amp and the sound is INCREDIBLE! This was a relatively pricey setup and I have cables but with decent wire management It's not that big of a concern!
One of the best headset reviews ever, thanks Frank P! I just got the beyerdynamic custom game, watched this to give me at least some idea what I'm in for since they should be similar to the 770s as well.
"Those of you with an absolute unit for a nogen" this killed me dude 😂
thank you for the excellent microfon test. thats was amazing, it told me excactly what I needed to know.
Your video helped me find an excellent wireless headset in the ATH-G1WL. Just a little tip I got from Audio Technica about the signal issues on the G1WL. Use usb2.0 instead of 3.0 even if you have to use an extension cable for the receiver. I noticed a tremendous range improvement and didn't experience any signal drops compared to using the receiver in a usb3.0 port.
MVP comment right here. Thanks bud
omg! youre a life saver
Hey were the headphones worth it ? I went to check online reviews and alot said that after 2 months of using it the quality of the headphone deteriorate, did that happen to you too?
@@vaarax8993 Hey just saw your comment so not sure if you're still looking but no I have experienced zero issues with them. I've been running them since April of 2021 and they are still going strong. I did notice that if you run the sound at 100% on the actual headphone and then just adjust volume with your PC you actually get a significant improvement in performance. I specifically noticed that the sound of a Precision Airstrike in Warzone would sound like it was clipping the drivers when the volume on the headset was lower. Surprisingly, when I crank the level to 100% on the headset then just drop the volume of my PC the airstrike no longer peaks the drivers and it can be even louder!
I use them for several hours a day primarily for making phone calls and music but they are also excellent for gaming. I have a friend who uses a goxlr with a shure mic attached and yes that mic sounds better but the one on this headset is very close to it (just a little less bass).
Absolutley love them. I've helped several friends get the wired or wireless versions and they all agree that it is fantastic. Excellent imaging and soundstage (for a closed back at least). I recently ordered a PC38x from Drop as I wanted an open back for certain scenarios (being able to hear my kids in the other room if needed and sidetone is just too noisy overall). Still waiting on that one to arrive but I'm very curious to see how it compares.
@@AJRohrer I wasnt looking for one anymore, but i'll buy these when my headset break, thank you !
I'm personally a total Beyerdynamic fan! Got the white Custom One Pro Plus, spent 2 months hunting it down since it's not commercially available in my country. So comfortable so I bet their gaming headset is just as good! Completely worth it but sadly underrated in the mainstream market.
Akg k7xx, mod mic, and a topping nx4 amp/dac.
I have beyerdynamic dt990 80 ohms with a wireless modmic
Every time you put on a headset, you remind me of a pilot. You took it back with that song, showing your age lol
really enjoyed the actual mic and keyboard test. great review.
4:34 these are the wired (meant wireless) variant, but there's also a wired version as well.
Glad to see your opening things up for us audiophiles out there. I hope that you could every once in awhile dedicate a show to more audiophile headsets, speakers etc. There's a ton of high quality gear just ready to be checked out. It would really be nice to see for a lot of us. Great video. Loved the Rick Astley soliloquy. Nicely done. :)
This guy is just a snob, not an audiophile. he used voicemeeter to tamper with the microphone results.
basically every actual hardware channel has had nothing but praise for Sennheiser's gaming line in both microphone and sound quality as well as build quality. they're also only $100. there's not a single pair of wireless headphones and a microphone you can buy with better audio quality you can buy at that price. nevermind the 370s are only so much because they're wireless, the wired version is $50 and goes on sale for like $30 all the time
you didn't just rickroll us in 2019..
memes are like fashion they eventually come back in style
@@moonmessiah9368 you worded it beautifully
Yes he just did!
Moon Messiah not at fucking all
pat dereck Alright calm down meme elitist.
Thanks for such an in depth review! Great job!
good thing this video came out close around Christmas because im looking for a new headset :)
Yeah that Sennheiser mic definitely makes me cry
Exactly what I needed as Christmas is coming up! I don't like the 'gaming' headset look. Thanks Frank! Keep it up!
Neither have I. Thats why I initially was considering the MH752 and the Arctis lineup. Glad to see this collection, but honestly only the Beyerdynamic one looked not gamery.
@@Memann208 the Audio Technica ones don't loke gamery either, look like the m50x with a blue D-Brand ring skin
208Tsuna I've had an Arctics 3 for a little under 2 years and love them! Looking to upgrade but they are amazing and work like from day 1
MMX 300s with the Dekoni Choice ear pads and a DAC mixer completely changed the way I thought about audio and gaming.
what dac?
Still loving my vmodas. Wireless or wired they are great, have a stronger build, and look good enough to wear anywhere. Customizable too.
I've loved my MMX300s for the past year, and wondered if I made the right choice. This confirms it. Thanks Frank!
Are they comfortable when being worn for a long time?
@@Finn-wm2no I have zero issues with comfort wearing these headphone, no matter how long I have them on. It's been another year since I left this comment, and I can say with 100% confidence that I'd recommend these to anyone. :)
@@plattnum89 Okay, thank you very much :)
@@Finn-wm2no I have them too, and all I can say about comfort is that I don't really enjoy them from this side but it does compensate with the sound/mic quality. It really kicks ass. Change the pads if they're not your type and just go get'em
Do you have an amp or anything with your headset? Or just straight plug and play?
“This is the wired version and there is a wireless variant as well.” Sounds great.
He said wired to both of them actually
I especially appreciate the microphone tests. Thanks.
I recently bought the ATH-AD700X from audio technica and I am IN LOVE with them!
The title confused me so much but after I watched another amazing video I understood why the title was that
Totally agreed, I use my V-Moda for gaming
@randomfrankp Would love to see you review the new Xtrfy M4 gaming mouse, it just released and it going under the radar. Plus you have the best tech review videos in my opinion!
I just picked up the MMX 300 Gen2 and the Sennheiser GSX 1000 Amp/DAC. So looking forward to the great audio.
How have they been so far?
Second previous comment lol, how have they been??
WOW. The beyerdynamic MMX 300 is BY FAR the best. Didn‘t expect such a clear and unrivaled victory.
And still, there is other options. For instance Beyerdynamic Custom studio (80ohm)+game gear (mic-on-a-cable), also from Beyer. Then you have an awesome gaming headset, studio headphones, and music headphones, all in one package. Sets you back around 200$ in total.
Other flexible options exist, like paring your favorite headphones with v-moda boompro mic or Antlion ModMic
Legitimately been waiting for a vid like this
Very nice and complete review. Thanks!
Subscribed once I heard that beautiful singing... appreciate the Rick Roll
12:59 It was at this moment that I knew, he RICKROLLED us.
hey bro! I have to say thank you!! I did buy like 3 headsets and I did return all of them, because I just could not stand the bad sound (Elo 7.1 air, Syn air pro, Arctis 7) and I really thought " damn I really have to go back to wired ones". Then I saw your review and the 370 really catched my attetion. I got them 2 days ago and boy do I love them! I am working with music and I just know what I want soundwise and I also know that wireless costs audio quality. But the GSP 370 really do deliver what I was looking for in a wireless headset! I really only got them because of you review and I am really glad I did! Gaming is now on a whole new level!
Thank you Frank
@12:01 I can definitely confirm that noise gate while listening with my Arctis 7 SteelSeries headset but while listening with my Logitech G733 headset, it isn't as noticeable.
that rick part had me dead, best youtuber out here lmfaooo, i bought the audio technica thanks for the great review :)
9:13 made me laugh so hard. Nothing special his head just looked like a hairy toe
Bruh😂😂
@@MadMarco he looks like a tech deck character
HAHAHAHAH
(I only laughed after reading your comment and imagining it)
Calmest intro for this channel, I would really like you to be this calm nowadays.
Might pick one of these up!
Thank you for making this. So many people really need to learn about this. Way too many people are paying for garbage.
I'm one of them! I just tested out the GSP 600 and it is so much worse audio wise compared to my DT 770 PRO. I didn't expect the difference to be so large. Although I do think this headset is tuned for video game audio somehow - but still, it has distortion even. And the mic quality did not blow my socks off for the price. I think I'm probably better just grabbing an audio interface and a professional mic. The MMX 300 sounded nice but it's pretty pricey
@@com3se3m3 they are for gaming, the audio is made more bassy to hear steps and shooting and any other noise cues the game you're playing does, which is why they suck for music, videos, and anything like that, they are gaming, aka you want the best advantage in any way not necessarily the best sound for anything else.
I started cracking up when u were singing 😂
Great reviews! Just earned yourself a new subscriber! :)
Thank you! Great review
8:57 gamer rage
13:16 "so the point of this video is to..." *Rick Roll* you
OK that last part was funny. Pretty good review. Nice work.
I also have the beyerdynamic, I can not report any problems with it (But I use it on a Steinberg UR22Mk2, maybe that is why. Just a tip for everyone that dose not want to have this muffled sound, take the pop filter away. You can place the microfone further away, and the mids and hights are more present. The pop sound where neo problem for me
I’ve had the MMX 300 for over a year and they are by far the best I’ve heard. And one of the best mics. I would recommend them if someone had the money to spend.
Tyler Jasper pc or console gaming ?
Frank, you are my favorite tech you tubers. Your production quality is unrivaled.
Man, that final test of the three was beautiful hahaha.
thank you for the mic test!
The Sennheiser mic sounds like some 2 dollar cheap wallmart mic. The other mics sound a lot better tho
I've heard mics from $18 headsets that sound better
Because its fucking wireless..
brah agreed, but it has the longest battery time so they have to sacrifice the quality. However, I think gpx has really great microphone but their audio quality just suck so bad I bought and returned.
@@benshiro5008 There are a bunch fo wireless ones that sound good
@@carsonlamphear5352 I hate wireless, its inconvenient, stuff like that always disconnects, and sound quality isn't as good due it being Bluetooth and not direct sound from the cable
This is the wired variant, there's also a wired version available as well for cheaper.
-randomfrankp 2019
Was looking for this one lol.
The noise gate you're talking about at 12:20, could be AGC "automatic gain control" in the mic properties.
Man you should really check out the new Fnatic React headset. I’m a headphone nerd myself and just grabbed the Reacts from Best Buy as an impulse buy because I needed a wired headset to go with my living room PS4 Pro setup for late night couch gaming. I paired the Reacts with my Sound BlasterX G6 and dude, it’s right up there with all my $300+ headphones when it comes to game audio and most surprising of all, the mic is AMAZING. It’s way better than my Mod Mic and pretty much even with my AT2020. It sounds better than the mics you previewed in this vid too.
Such an insane value for a gaming headset and at $70 it seriously makes all these “audiophile” headsets obsolete.
imagine paying the price of a console for a shit quality mic and sub par headphone
How is it "sub par headphone" they sound better then any headphones considered as gaming headphones
Headphones are alot better than gaming headsets lol, they're meant to buy a separate mic with them
I still really like my corsair void pro. Had it since 2017 and worth it for me.
It’s nothing special
Solid review. Thanks.
Got an mmx 300 gen 2. Bought my first mmx many years ago and im forever a devoted Beyerdynamics fan
vlp3r If you haven’t already, consider investing in a solid DAC or AMP/DAC combo to unlock the full potential of the mmx 300’s. Also grab some memory foam leather earcups for even better sound quality 👍
@@KraftyDubstep Any suggestions for DAC or AMP/DAC? Because I have the MMX 3 G2 600 Ohm and I had bought a new soundcard. And it improved dramatic from that alone.
Beyerdynamic MMX 300 blows the other two out of the water in every respect. It's on a whole new level. Use Dekoni synthetic leather pads on them for complete eargasm. Sennheiser's mic is probably the worst mic ever made. Not sure why anyone would use wireless for gaming when gaming is stationary and wired is superior in every way. Also Audio Technika, as good sounding as their products are, is notorious for making some of the most uncomfortable headphones. I've tried a couple in the past and couldn't last even 5 minutes.
The video quality of his videos are staggering.
@@motorizedpedestrian lmao
i was watching at 360p thought it was 1080p
I'm using a Naenka Lite Pro headset recently. It uses a Qualcomm 3040 chip and 5.2 Bluetooth. It can last for seven hours in a single battery life. Every point is worth showing off. Not only that, it only costs 59.9 US dollars. Said it is a very cost-effective headset.
You are so right about that! I was circling a bit between the Razer Blackshark / HyperX Cloud II-III / SteelSeries Arctis Nova / Fnatic React / etc... until I dove into "Audiophile" brands... Finally went with the Sennheiser G4me One and it was the bloody best decision I could ever make :D
I use Philips Fidelio X2's with an Antlion mic. Love them.
Same combo here. Fidelio X2's are excellent.
@@ckeoni same dude
Why a Antlion mic and not V-Moda Boom Pro which would plug directly in? Only asking because I’ve tried both and like the mod mic sound better but hate having the additional wire
@@clawson32104 sorry not same haha.
I use the v moda
Not anymore, now I have a usb mic
@@clawson32104 Honestly, I didn't even know about the V-Moda mic until you mentioned it :) You're right though. The extra wire kinda sucks. I mesh wrapped the headset and mic wires together, so it's not too bad now.
"Audiophile" and" "wireless" dont go together if you really want to talk about audiophile grade headsets those ain't it because of the low impedance and the wireless thingy. I know it ain't such a thing on the market right now but still props to you to try educating people to good sound quality in general.
Yeah agreed.
Couldnt of said it better myself.
I would disagree. There are some very high quality wireless headphones that can easily punch with the big boys. The Sennheiser's and the Audiotechica's implementations, I would agree, aren't good. However, Beyerdynamic actually kept with their quality, and made it with a mic. If I ever bought a headset, that's probably what I would buy..... Other then the Audizie Mobius. To be frank, a standalone mic through an XLR interface still is king of the roost in my book, and I would sill just look into a modmic before a headset. Also, really? Impedance is NOT what makes a headphone "audiophile"
@@jordanhart9708 I agree about having an external is the better solution, the point I tried to make with the impedance is that in most cases headphones with high impedance need more power and thus can carry more details of a sound although there are some exceptions and people who have those kind of cans do own some kind of amp/dac. All of it combined leaning to an audiophile listening experience.
@@maelroudaut5281 Sadly I can not describe how much I want to beat my skull into a wall right now...
Yes, most audiophiles do use dedicated amp/dacs. Yes, high impedance headphones CAN produce more detail then lower impedance headphones when fed enough power.... This does NOT, however, mean that in order to obtain this "audiophile listening experience" that you must have an external amp/dac (cause even your on board audio has them!!!) and high impedance headphones. Lower impedance headphones (aka MOST EVERY HEADPHONE YOU WILL FIND EVER) can still benefit from a stronger amp then what you have on board, a better DAC, and high quality source files. There are also plenty of IEMs that are even lower impedance that are cheap (comparatively speaking) that many audiophiles LOVE (Tin T2, KZ ZS10 Pro, and BLON B3 all come to mind in the $40-50 price range).
When I talked about an EXTERNAL solution, I ment an external audio interface for your microphone, eg. Behringer U-Phoria UM2, mixer boards, and the Scarlett from Focusrite along with a dedicated microphone.
Loved the video. Can you do one with electric shooting noise canceling headphones?
Good video Frank p the 3rd head set looks the best
Just remember though, the beyers are wired which is an advantage in SQ. That makes the ATH the most impressive imo
1:20
Rightttttt. You used every single term in the book there buddy.
I loved the prep talk at the end
Im still rocking the Astros a50s all the way from the 2013. Modded it to have a 6800mah battery pack and boy it lasts for ever now
Why didn't I think of that?! I was actually looking at this video because my A50s from 2012 battery isn't lasting more then 2 hours but I love the headset with a passion
As an addition, I would like to recommend Philips Fidelio X2 too. Wide soundstage and amazing imagining. A very immersive headphone. You need to buy seperate mics though since it does not come with one.
I’m deciding between the Fidelio X2 and the Philips SHP9600 which do you think I should get?
@@SillylNico Hi, if you have more to spend get the fidelio. The soundstage is very massive and fidelios sounds really aggressive as well so its good for games or movies. Fidelio X2 is worth the additional cost. However, If you insist on getting a cheaper ones I suggest SHP9500 instead of SHP9600.
@@SillylNico Getting an amplifier+dac combo would be even better. Even though Fidelio has relatively low impedance, 32 ohms, an amplifier+dac combo would drive the headphone to its true potential. Open backs headphone usually require more power than the specification since the sound leaks out. But the sound being able to leak out is what makes open back headphones have massive soundstage. The amp+dac combo that I am using right now is Fiio K5 Pro and I definitely recommend it.
I have the MMX 300. It's just so good. Like compared to Logitech, Corsair etc. it plays in another world.
Kinda like they are twice the price
Please do a budget version of this
I have been waiting for this video for so long
the mmx300 is easily the best gaming headset on the market.
8:54 “oh wtf”
By the way, for wired broadcast headsets look at the Audio-Technica BPHS1 Broadcast Stereo Headset. $169 online right now with a dynamic cardiod pattern microphone but only 40mm drivers.
Fun fact: recently met an older gentlemen (closing in on 80 years of age) who used to be an audio engineer when he was still working and he nonchalantly mentioned studying under Professor Sennheiser in his youth. At first I thought I didn't hear it right or there was no connection but after my curiousity took over and I googled it, THE Fritz Sennheiser used to teach in Hanover, where I currently live.
Good headphones are truly worth it. If you dont care about the mic or the wireless aspect you can go even harder on the "audiophile" aspect and get some truly awesome sounding headphones.
Personally I got sennheiser hd660s and god they're unbelievable
Please save me from the people recommending fucking ASTROs in the comments.
“Absolute unit of a noggin” LMFAOOOO 8:07
yes, i am absolute
great stuff bro
Fantastic video Frank! Great work!! :D
“For anyone with an absolute unit of a noggin” 🤣🤣🤣
I felt like he was talking directly to me when he dropped that line
Dude wtf one of the best Headset tests ive ever seen
Good stuff i do like raw mic reviews
Beware there's a bug with the GSP670s at the moment, your microphone will randomly stop working, you have to remove/reattach the dongle to a different USB port before the microphone is recognized. Overall a 7/10 for the headset ONLY due to random mic drops. I've tried 8 different headsets in the last 2 months and they are by far the best especially for foot steps and in terms of bass. I've tried everything from $150 - $350 range and they're well worth the $$.
Can you please tell me which one you would choose? Mmx150, epos gsp 601 or epos gsp 670?
@@ivanpopovic567 I'm partial to GSP 670.
@@SchwaboChannel I saw now that they are actually out of my budget, they were on discount.. what would you choose under 130-140 euros? Thank you!
12:40 "Drops the mic"
I have the Beyerdynamic MMX300 G2, and I love it.
The difference in soundquality to my old headset is really huge, listen to music sounds so much better and also the mic is a improvement to my old one.
Do you still have those now? If so do you still recommend them??
@@driftwize Yes, I still have them and would recommend them. I bought mine in the end of 2017.
The sound is still awesome and the cable a weakpoint of headsets/phones is also still fine.
The only thing I replaced with a new one is the headband, because the syntetic leather started to crumble after 3 years and a few months of daily usage.
@@legend_acg bi-yearly checking if homie still has the MMX 300s. I've heard people have had theirs for 7+ years and they are easily replaceable parts if something really screws up, reason I bought em.
@@ElderWillows Yes, still rocking my original MMX 300s daily and they are as amazing as ever. Only replaced a second time the headband & ear covers.
@@legend_acg Awesome to hear!
First time I'm looking at one of your videos.
Great, great test : detailed enough, short enough, excellent way to show results.
Nothing could have been added to be better.
I just bought an MMX 300 and it seems I did the right choice.
Keep doing a great job.
Do you still like them? I'm thinking of getting some.
@@ethancook2075 great choice, I love mine
Still liking them dude? Just ordered a pair for hella cheap on sale:D
Got a pair of sennheiser 559s and a mod mic about 8 years ago never went back to a " gaming headset"
Best headset's vids i have seen in a while.....
Cool vids bro keep up
Please do gaming open back headphones
Would appreciate 😉🙏
Just get the ath adg1x and never look back
@@kwicksandz sorry but i'v been looking for it and can't find it are you sure about the name ?
@@kwicksandz oh nop just fond it but do you have any cheaper options ?
@@samuelpiette9787 the Phillips shp9500s and vmoda boompro for a mic
@@kwicksandz what about sennheiser game one? which one more detailed and clear sound quality?
Thanks rick i love your hit single by the way
A linus tech tips ad, for the honey extension, inside of the randomfrankp video? That felt awkward