Could you make a video for artist just starting to do commisions? Like how to work with costumers in a positive way and how to deal with negative customers?
Just be respectful but if the client is excessively rude or does not comply with your rules then you have every right to terminate that transaction. You can be courteous, respectful and professional but that does not mean you should be a pushover.
@@witchby9362 Awesome that's my dream job though I'm not good yet.. and I've gotta finish my (short) IT career so I can afford to go to art school, art is something I like, but I just started drawing like two years ago, I mean like for reals when I said I wanna get good at it, and I'm not at the skill level where I want to be obviosly I know is gonna take me years I'm not some kinda idiot who wants to learn something as complicated in a couple of years by himself (these two past years). I wish you the best of luck to you :3. If I start to get commissions in the future and I don't care for how much I'd be the happiest man in the world : D. For now tho, doing my best in my best on my spare time :3
Gosh, I wish more people had these kind of things in mind! One of the problems I face when people commission me is them wanting to change the pose(s) near the end stages and then them getting mad at me for not allowing it. I'm not going to redo all my work lol, especially when I check in with my clients beforehand. I appreciated this video!
Also a little tip: When you commission someone, if there’s something you dislike, TELL THEM. You’re asking them to make something, and you’re paying them for it. Just don’t be rude. Be polite. Example: You commission someone for a fursuit of a deer. You’re getting pictures, you know. Then, 2 weeks later, they send you a picture of the head. You see the antlers are a bit too far back. Don’t: Say it’s good and move on. This makes the person you’re commission think you like everything about it. Do: Tell them about it. You say, “Hey, I notice the antlers are a bit far back. Can you reposition it to line up with _____?” They fix it for you, and you like the fursuit much more now that it’s fixed. See what happened when you told the person what you wanted fixed? Tell them about things you want moved or changed, just be polite. (I’ve never commission anyone, but I hope this is good advice.)
Something I've always done if an art piece or something has me at just a loss for words I will typically comment "words can't even begin to describe how beautiful this is" it's very positive and is truthful
(oh boy...here goes Hondra making suggestions again xD )4:51 When mentioning the sketch phase and the line phase, you should have put up example of what Sketch art would look like and then what the cleaned up line art would look like. The reason I suggest it is so people who are new to commissioning have a clear idea of exactly what those phases you're referring to are. And to go with what Neffers is saying, those are the two stages where changes are easy. Once you give the ok in the line art phase, that's it! There is no redos or turning back after the line phase! You can ask for changes after the line art phase but a few things will happen. First off the artist will want to snap your neck. Secondly changes might not be possible, or you're going to have to cough up more cash as the changes in the color phase will require a TON of work. I suggest taking your time and thinking it over and being very critical in the line phase. Take a few hours to look the image over real close. Go do something else and then come back later to look it over one last time. Treat the ok's on the line phase as there is no turning back. The only real changes you can request in the color phase is well...the colors. I REPEAT there is nothing wrong with asking for changes during both the sketch phase and the line phase. Once you ok the Lines, you're locked in!
To answer those two people who are trying to justify different timezones as an excuse to not respond to an artist's message, I say: if you're in a different timezone, fine, but a message from an artist shouldn't sit longer than twenty-four hours without being answered. They asked you a question at three pm their time, but it was midnight where you were so you didn't see it? Read and answer it as soon as you get out of bed (after some caffeine if you need to make sure you're functional first). They had a progress report to show you but it came in right before you had to go to work or bed? Go to work or go to bed, but leave a note to yourself that you must answer them when you get home or wake up.
@NebulaInTokyo Agreed, but I think the person meant multiple days. If you're at a point where you can't talk to them for several days, you probably need to wait. However, I will say, it's ridiculous when artists get mad at me for responding a few hours late. Sorry man, I know it was noon for you, but it was 5am for me.
I hadn’t realized that you’re taking plushie commissions! What’s the starting price and how could I be able to contact you in the future for commission? I really really like your style and your quality seems fantastic.
Indeed I do! :D I always post my work to my dA, so feel free to check it out for more plushies. As for starting rates, they are still changing since I'm learning my own unique style for them. But currently they start at $65. You can always contact me via email. ^_^
You deserve to hear everyday that your artwork and skill is BEYOND this universe! The way the expressions the characters have really shows that you take a lot of time to work on these things! If the character is more dark, you are really good at showing off this feature! Thanks for always being there for everyone Neffertity!~
If I were to be honest one time I've ever gotten really mean criticism was one time I was doing art piece on a character that I have never drawn before if you know anything about transformers her name is black arachnia and I even said I tried my best with drawing out her shape :3 And in the comments I see this message " you could have done better " me being me I said I tried my best and they continued they afterwards left the amino because I asked them to stop (yes this was on Amino)
I must be the worst person ever then, because I'm CONSTANTLY in awe of commision work I get in and can't just pick one nice thing to point out because it's ALL so awesome!
I have weird luck of people forgetting markings on my sonas. They don’t send me WIPS for the coloring stage so I’m always having to remind people just in case in the way beginning of it all. My refs are very clear and my designs are fairly simple but ahh my OCD just has to notice when something is missing. I’m scared if I speak up and tell them they missed a lil something they would think I’m ungrateful. I try to go in sometimes and fix it myself but still doesn’t feel great.
as an artist myself who dose Commissions i agree with all of these . iv been pesterd I have had where a commissioner had no art at all and ether gave me a description or a vr chat model picture. so I get all this iv had people ask for changes after the art is done and I get so annoyed but still go back and fix it. you made very good points ^^
Excellent video :3 thank you for videos like this, since aside from common courtesy sometimes the rules around things like commissioning can be hazy for an outsider. Wonderful content and beautifully done as always
thing i'm doing when I comm ppl is make a rough sketch myself. me end always ends up being super crude tho but for most ppl I've done this method with so far, the results haven't been total letdowns
As a full time artist, I think you summed things up pretty well. The only thing I want to add is just to emphases even more how important it is that you TELL the artist if something is not how you want it. There is nothing worse than when I think all is well, and go on to complete the work, while the client as actually not happy with it but are afraid to say so. Just make sure you are friendly and constructive in your feedback. Eg. instead of saying "The leg is wrong", say "That leg doesn't feel right. Could you please [explain how it should be instead]?" Also, ask yourself if you have given clear instructions and references? Did you communicate it poorly? If so, admit your mistake, phrase it like eg. "I might have explained this poorly, what I actually meant was [clear explanation]. Could you please adjust it?" And keep in mind that if you make them do extra work because you failed to give good instructions, they may charge you for that change, and that's on you. And finally, if you were respectful, friendly and constructive, and the artist reacts badly, that's their fault, not yours. If you clearly explained something and they messed up, they have no right to be angry at you for asking a fox, nor should you accept that. If it is their fault, respectfully stand your ground. Eg.: "I'm sorry, but I asked you [repeat the instruction they failed to follow], so please correct that, thank you." It's often a problem for me that clients had a bad experience with an artist who screwed things up and then reacted angrily when it was pointed out, so they are afraid to point mistakes out to me, and I need to insist that they let me know. Don't be intimidated, you are a customer who pays for a specific service, if the artist messes up, it is within your right to ask for correction. And any artist with a proper attitude will want to know so they can fix it.
I'm not realy in dragon and furry art but u explain things like that very well and it fits for every art style / comunity. [ im sorry for spelling mistakes but im quite tired and english is not my nativ qwq ]
As a fursuit maker/artist myself my biggest thing is remember that for lots of artists its not their full time job. I have fulltime college, and a job and other things ontop of commissions so I don't have time to just chat about non commission related things (as much as I wish I could!). I had to write it in my tos as I have had people message me constantly all day every day about random things and I end up not being able to get much work done on their suit as everytime I put down my phone to work on the suit, I get messaged again xD. But people seem to still not be reading my tos.
Hahahaha someone once said 'oh it looks great but can you make them dance?' and ime like 'I'm not an animator and also i would have to change the pose like 50 times' them 'but there already drawn so you can animate them now' me dies
Yes I'm glad someone said it. I've had Soo many people use fursuit pictures as there ref. And blurry traditional pictures that look like they've been taken at 3 in the morning. And then they get mad at me for not adding a detail or Getting the colors wrong because the pictures they sent in are alll driffent.
Bread hahaha. Had to rewatch the last part to make sure i wasnt loosing my mind...again. very informative video. Loved every momemt of. Confirmed eveything i already knew which is good. Means i wasnt being a wibbly wobbly jerk XD
Also, if you commission an artist and plan to post that comission, PLEASE credit them if they ask to be credited. And just credit them in general, its common courtesy to credit artwork that you havent done yourself
I get a client that will send me thumbs up everyday...though I am not on her piece yet..I will get a sketch done soon like I do all of my commission's so I have time to get a approval but..it gets sooo annoying. Also from a previous piece she said it looked like the girl from the ring once it was finished...
As someone who's been in many commission ques, yea, that's a BIG don't. To use you yourself as an example Neff, I've got a huge hoard of art still waiting from you...some of it years in waiting but because so many people are so impatient andw ant their work done in a day or a week or whatever, you need to do it just to get them out of the way, whereas people like me are still "so uh...that ref sheet I commissioned 2 years ago?" people REALLY need to realize that the artist's commission time does not revolve around them the instant they hand over the $$$
Question about YOU’RE commissions! I have two ways of my oc. One is very complex and one is a neutral. I was wondering if I were to ask for a full body suit and it’s complex would the prices rise and be a greater amount of money then if I were to commission the simple one?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN!?! I LOVE IT WHEN EVERY TIME YOU ASK FOR A REFERENCE SHEET PEOPLE ASK WHAT IT IS!!! HAHA AND YOU SPEND AN HOUR EXPLAINING ITTTTTTTTT also people ask me every other day after i say how long it will take HAHAHA
Can we get a video like this for the artists side of thing please? I've gotten some traditional badges where the artist hasn't bothered updating me WIP wise after the line art stage, then they've gone and completely finished and laminated it and half the markings are just straight up missing
Someone on roblox asked me "can you draw my character?" And the only information given was one colour, not even specific, and that she has kittens. One of those wasn't even important and the other wasn't specific enough. I wasn't even told what pose and background!
My default comment when I commision something that I'm quite happy with is "totally worth the price, (insert comment about communication), hope you guys commion (artist) in the future" sure its canned but when I'm happy with something irl I usually say "hmm I'm quite chuffed with that"
Bit of my appinion but I think its worth saying. If an artist does not give WIP'S for critisism, it's okay to ask for changes on the final piece! Yeah it's a lot to change for them by then, but you have the right to comment, you are the customer. If they never asked for feedback on whips then that's on them for letting you give critisism this late. I've had a commision where I recieved a finished product, but the markings were notably wrong, a very specific marking unique to him had been replaced with a colour fade. Yeah, that needs changing... The artist was nice about it though and it turned out fine! Just a notion that it's not wrong to give critisism on a final piece if you never recieved a wip to begin with, especially if the issue is genuinely problematic (like an incorrect marking)
Worst refs I ever received... TINY PIXEL REF!! X'D So I told my customer to skectch the detail that the pixel didn't show clearly before I accept their commission.
7:16 I agree with that,Just the word "nice" for some reason kinda hurts to me bc to me it seems like they didnt really appreciate it and I end up over judging my drawing for them and end up deleting it (I draw gifts for people and post it on yt or something) QwQ
I make foam bases and sell them and I get asked all the time were they're foam bases are like every day and I tell them I'm working on it but I'm very very busy with school and cosplays and hangout with friends and family I don't have a lot of time to work on them constantly but I promise them I'll get the bases finshes and shipped to the people that commissioned them but they won't stop asking were they are so how do I stop that? Im working on school right now while making a base for someone and they just wont stop asking were it is 😐 Like I get you're excited but jeez So do you have any tips on how to make them stop asking constantly?
How do I commission for a suit? Not saying that I wish to go through with that right this second but I had no idea this even existed until 30 mins ago lol.
Once I bought an oc with like 50 arts and on each art it had litle changings in the desing. So I just get f2u base and I choosed the desing that I like most :)
There's something more unnerving than 'nice'. It's 'thanks'. Lots of back and forth communication, lots of my work, and this is all the commissioner says when the get a pic. Always makes me feel like they don't like the result and want to brush me off. Yuck.
Hey neffertity, if you read these I’d like to make a suggestion. Can you please make a video on how to start taking commissions. I know you’ve already done one but could you make one that covers more on how to start taking them. I’ve been wanting to recently but I can’t figure out how.
I already have a fursona. I'm not done with it but I don't have a ref sheet like I don't have all of the details like it's only showing the front but not the back or the side or anything so could someone possibly help me once I'm done
i agree with dont change the last monute because when someone commisoned me i showed them the final product and they told me no do this do that and i charged them alot more because they should of told me eariler
hey neffertity i commissioned a friend of mine in may and it now December and they still haven't delivered how should I approach the situation without ruining my friendship with them
What videos and other RUclips channels would you recommend for someone starting out on making plushies? I'm getting started because as a kid no one made the stuffed animals/plushies that I wanted so now I'm hoping to be able to make that unique one for other children from 5-whatever years old.
Hey... I feel rude when I tell the people I'm commissioning to "Change this" or "I don't like that" so I often just say "Oml I love it!" Or "It so cool!" even if there is something I don't like about it... I mean I am an artist myself and it does not seem rude to me when people tell me, But when I say it to other people...;-;
i feel the same way. when i commission an artist i most of the time like the drawings ,but when there is some parts that i don't like. for example, hair color or some missing parts and then tell them to add/change it. i feel really bad and anxious for saying it thinking the artist might hate me
I had a request recently that had 3 very different sets of colours and outfits for the same character. So many of the ‘dont’ category I have experienced....
i wish more people comunicated more like i draw for fun or most times join art cons on yt and i ask about the charaters more than is on the drawing or picture but then i feel unfair but really im just curious to make sure im drawing the charater correct
i don't know a lot about art but sometimes when iv seen someones art on DA and iv thought oh this may work better next time as this has already been use in the artwork or have seen it used in other bits of work by the same person or other people i leave a message on the post , i start of by saying what i like about the art work then offer constructive criticism of what could have worked better for example a character in the art work has very bright clothing and the eyes are a light colour that is hard to see because of all the bright colours yet on the same piece have a character that wears dark clothing with light coloured eye to contrast the dark clothing, suggesting the use of a darker shade of the light characters eye colour to contrast the light clothing
If you're looking to commission a reference sheet you need to have at least something to give the artist. They aren't psychic. And can't read your mind for whatever your character looks like. Providing things like images of animals or people you want as a base, color palletes, images of clothing or accessories, etc. Even rough sketches and scribbles can help the artist visualize what you need. And this help create a first time ref sheet. But giving them nothing and saying "Y U NO DRAW MAH OC RIGHT?!?!?!" Doesn't really help either party. References matter.
So, if i would commission an artist, they would send me a sketch (and i'm also an artsit) and something in the sketch doesn't seems right to me, could i just use red color to show the artist what i want it to look like, and what to change? It would be way easier than explaining how i want it to look like
Hi! Just asking, do you take commissions for fursuits, skull suits in particular? I’ve seen your suits on TikTok and fell in LOVE with them! I’m looking to get a skull wolf and thought maybe you can help. For now I just need to know if you take commissions for skullwolf partials. If you don’t, could you recommend any makers?
So I commissioned a fursuit head... i ask for a wip about every 3 or 4 days, is that to often, my maker does usually give me a wip when I ask, but am I asking to often?
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Could you make a video for artist just starting to do commisions? Like how to work with costumers in a positive way and how to deal with negative customers?
Hmm that might be something I can explore. I'll make a note of that.
@@Neffertity I surely would love a video of that, because I'm a new artist to commissions, I plan to try doing them as my job pretty much.
Just be respectful but if the client is excessively rude or does not comply with your rules then you have every right to terminate that transaction. You can be courteous, respectful and professional but that does not mean you should be a pushover.
@@witchby9362 Awesome that's my dream job though I'm not good yet.. and I've gotta finish my (short) IT career so I can afford to go to art school, art is something I like, but I just started drawing like two years ago, I mean like for reals when I said I wanna get good at it, and I'm not at the skill level where I want to be obviosly I know is gonna take me years I'm not some kinda idiot who wants to learn something as complicated in a couple of years by himself (these two past years). I wish you the best of luck to you :3. If I start to get commissions in the future and I don't care for how much I'd be the happiest man in the world : D. For now tho, doing my best in my best on my spare time :3
@@Reiikz I wish you luck on that !
Gosh, I wish more people had these kind of things in mind! One of the problems I face when people commission me is them wanting to change the pose(s) near the end stages and then them getting mad at me for not allowing it. I'm not going to redo all my work lol, especially when I check in with my clients beforehand. I appreciated this video!
I've been in that situation many many times, so I can definitely relate.
Never actually had to deal with that before- then again I’ve only done 3 and one of them was an animation sooooo
this was really helpful thank you also gosh it's really cool to see cotton candy as a plush
Also a little tip: When you commission someone, if there’s something you dislike, TELL THEM. You’re asking them to make something, and you’re paying them for it. Just don’t be rude. Be polite.
Example:
You commission someone for a fursuit of a deer. You’re getting pictures, you know. Then, 2 weeks later, they send you a picture of the head. You see the antlers are a bit too far back.
Don’t: Say it’s good and move on. This makes the person you’re commission think you like everything about it.
Do: Tell them about it.
You say, “Hey, I notice the antlers are a bit far back. Can you reposition it to line up with _____?” They fix it for you, and you like the fursuit much more now that it’s fixed.
See what happened when you told the person what you wanted fixed? Tell them about things you want moved or changed, just be polite.
(I’ve never commission anyone, but I hope this is good advice.)
Something I've always done if an art piece or something has me at just a loss for words I will typically comment "words can't even begin to describe how beautiful this is" it's very positive and is truthful
3:31 My cousin asked me to do art of their fursona. Ok. Not even 1 minute later they asked if it was done
that is soo annoying
One they were trying to tease annoy you or two just being a bit of a buttmunch.
@@bruhmoment5974 Typo’s exist.
This is the type of person where you need to show them the iconic line from Toy Story 2. *"You can't rush art!"*
(oh boy...here goes Hondra making suggestions again xD )4:51 When mentioning the sketch phase and the line phase, you should have put up example of what Sketch art would look like and then what the cleaned up line art would look like. The reason I suggest it is so people who are new to commissioning have a clear idea of exactly what those phases you're referring to are.
And to go with what Neffers is saying, those are the two stages where changes are easy. Once you give the ok in the line art phase, that's it! There is no redos or turning back after the line phase! You can ask for changes after the line art phase but a few things will happen. First off the artist will want to snap your neck. Secondly changes might not be possible, or you're going to have to cough up more cash as the changes in the color phase will require a TON of work. I suggest taking your time and thinking it over and being very critical in the line phase. Take a few hours to look the image over real close. Go do something else and then come back later to look it over one last time. Treat the ok's on the line phase as there is no turning back. The only real changes you can request in the color phase is well...the colors. I REPEAT there is nothing wrong with asking for changes during both the sketch phase and the line phase. Once you ok the Lines, you're locked in!
As always, I immensely appreciate your feedback and suggestions. :D
I'll be sure to relay your advice to my lovely editor.
Oh Hai, Hondra :D
@@ladyzola2096 Zooooooooooolaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ^_^
When commissioning an artist, please don't take forever to respond to the messages
To answer those two people who are trying to justify different timezones as an excuse to not respond to an artist's message, I say: if you're in a different timezone, fine, but a message from an artist shouldn't sit longer than twenty-four hours without being answered. They asked you a question at three pm their time, but it was midnight where you were so you didn't see it? Read and answer it as soon as you get out of bed (after some caffeine if you need to make sure you're functional first). They had a progress report to show you but it came in right before you had to go to work or bed? Go to work or go to bed, but leave a note to yourself that you must answer them when you get home or wake up.
@NebulaInTokyo Agreed, but I think the person meant multiple days. If you're at a point where you can't talk to them for several days, you probably need to wait. However, I will say, it's ridiculous when artists get mad at me for responding a few hours late. Sorry man, I know it was noon for you, but it was 5am for me.
I hadn’t realized that you’re taking plushie commissions! What’s the starting price and how could I be able to contact you in the future for commission? I really really like your style and your quality seems fantastic.
Indeed I do! :D
I always post my work to my dA, so feel free to check it out for more plushies.
As for starting rates, they are still changing since I'm learning my own unique style for them. But currently they start at $65.
You can always contact me via email. ^_^
Neffertity good to know! Thank you 😊
You deserve to hear everyday that your artwork and skill is BEYOND this universe! The way the expressions the characters have really shows that you take a lot of time to work on these things! If the character is more dark, you are really good at showing off this feature! Thanks for always being there for everyone Neffertity!~
If I were to be honest one time I've ever gotten really mean criticism was one time I was doing art piece on a character that I have never drawn before if you know anything about transformers her name is black arachnia and I even said I tried my best with drawing out her shape :3
And in the comments I see this message " you could have done better " me being me I said I tried my best and they continued they afterwards left the amino because I asked them to stop (yes this was on Amino)
Punky Bible The majority of people on amino are kids. Don’t listen to them I bet your arts great!
I must be the worst person ever then, because I'm CONSTANTLY in awe of commision work I get in and can't just pick one nice thing to point out because it's ALL so awesome!
I have weird luck of people forgetting markings on my sonas. They don’t send me WIPS for the coloring stage so I’m always having to remind people just in case in the way beginning of it all. My refs are very clear and my designs are fairly simple but ahh my OCD just has to notice when something is missing. I’m scared if I speak up and tell them they missed a lil something they would think I’m ungrateful. I try to go in sometimes and fix it myself but still doesn’t feel great.
as an artist myself who dose Commissions i agree with all of these . iv been pesterd I have had where a commissioner had no art at all and ether gave me a description or a vr chat model picture. so I get all this iv had people ask for changes after the art is done and I get so annoyed but still go back and fix it. you made very good points ^^
Excellent video :3 thank you for videos like this, since aside from common courtesy sometimes the rules around things like commissioning can be hazy for an outsider. Wonderful content and beautifully done as always
Thank you so very much! :D
thing i'm doing when I comm ppl is make a rough sketch myself. me end always ends up being super crude tho but for most ppl I've done this method with so far, the results haven't been total letdowns
As a full time artist, I think you summed things up pretty well. The only thing I want to add is just to emphases even more how important it is that you TELL the artist if something is not how you want it. There is nothing worse than when I think all is well, and go on to complete the work, while the client as actually not happy with it but are afraid to say so.
Just make sure you are friendly and constructive in your feedback. Eg. instead of saying "The leg is wrong", say "That leg doesn't feel right. Could you please [explain how it should be instead]?" Also, ask yourself if you have given clear instructions and references? Did you communicate it poorly? If so, admit your mistake, phrase it like eg. "I might have explained this poorly, what I actually meant was [clear explanation]. Could you please adjust it?" And keep in mind that if you make them do extra work because you failed to give good instructions, they may charge you for that change, and that's on you.
And finally, if you were respectful, friendly and constructive, and the artist reacts badly, that's their fault, not yours. If you clearly explained something and they messed up, they have no right to be angry at you for asking a fox, nor should you accept that. If it is their fault, respectfully stand your ground. Eg.: "I'm sorry, but I asked you [repeat the instruction they failed to follow], so please correct that, thank you."
It's often a problem for me that clients had a bad experience with an artist who screwed things up and then reacted angrily when it was pointed out, so they are afraid to point mistakes out to me, and I need to insist that they let me know. Don't be intimidated, you are a customer who pays for a specific service, if the artist messes up, it is within your right to ask for correction. And any artist with a proper attitude will want to know so they can fix it.
Finally! A comment where doing a Commission isn't just "Artist good Customer bad" and everything isn't so Black and White.
I'm not realy in dragon and furry art but u explain things like that very well and it fits for every art style / comunity.
[ im sorry for spelling mistakes but im quite tired and english is not my nativ qwq ]
As a fursuit maker/artist myself my biggest thing is remember that for lots of artists its not their full time job. I have fulltime college, and a job and other things ontop of commissions so I don't have time to just chat about non commission related things (as much as I wish I could!). I had to write it in my tos as I have had people message me constantly all day every day about random things and I end up not being able to get much work done on their suit as everytime I put down my phone to work on the suit, I get messaged again xD. But people seem to still not be reading my tos.
"An artist is like a machine and will work on what you put into it."
I have mixed emotions about this, but I'll take it as a compliment. :cold_face:
Hahahaha someone once said 'oh it looks great but can you make them dance?' and ime like 'I'm not an animator and also i would have to change the pose like 50 times' them 'but there already drawn so you can animate them now' me dies
me; thinks about opening up commisions
me watches nefertity
*happy noises*
Yes I'm glad someone said it. I've had Soo many people use fursuit pictures as there ref. And blurry traditional pictures that look like they've been taken at 3 in the morning. And then they get mad at me for not adding a detail or
Getting the colors wrong because the pictures they sent in are alll driffent.
This is quite useful, but I'm often going to be on the opis8te side of the commission with my drawing tablet.
*your videos are the only videos that I put in full screen*
Excellent video once again. I feel like you get more confident doing the voice over, it's really pleasing to hear your emotions!
Thanks! I really try to have a pleasant, yet entertaining voice. :)
Great video! Wonderful to see more informative videos of the furry fandom! Super helpful as well!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, though these tips apply to the entire art community. :D
Bread hahaha. Had to rewatch the last part to make sure i wasnt loosing my mind...again. very informative video. Loved every momemt of. Confirmed eveything i already knew which is good. Means i wasnt being a wibbly wobbly jerk XD
Also, if you commission an artist and plan to post that comission, PLEASE credit them if they ask to be credited. And just credit them in general, its common courtesy to credit artwork that you havent done yourself
Precisely this
i made the mistake of drawing my ref too complicated so i appreciate this advice while i work on a new one ^_^'
Okay, I've just discovered and OH MY GOD I love it! That's wonderful, and your fursona is amazing!
This was really helpful thank you for the video Neffertity!
The background is just ✨
Thank you for all of your videos you’ve been such an inspiration and help!🐸🥺💖🌱🍄
I will never be that good at drawing
I get a client that will send me thumbs up everyday...though I am not on her piece yet..I will get a sketch done soon like I do all of my commission's so I have time to get a approval but..it gets sooo annoying. Also from a previous piece she said it looked like the girl from the ring once it was finished...
Unfortunately some commissioners don't understand constructive feedback
Neffertity very true. It hurt me honestly. :/ felt like it was terrible
thank you
As someone who's been in many commission ques, yea, that's a BIG don't.
To use you yourself as an example Neff, I've got a huge hoard of art still waiting from you...some of it years in waiting
but because so many people are so impatient andw ant their work done in a day or a week or whatever, you need to do it just to get them out of the way, whereas people like me are still
"so uh...that ref sheet I commissioned 2 years ago?"
people REALLY need to realize that the artist's commission time does not revolve around them the instant they hand over the $$$
why is bread on the dont’s in the thumbnail 😂😂🤣
This was pretty useful, good work
You need more views then you get, your content is SO amazing!!
this is a great video~ your talking skills improved so much!
Nice
Love this video! Got a new subscriber here! I hope people really see how things are!
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Question about YOU’RE commissions! I have two ways of my oc. One is very complex and one is a neutral. I was wondering if I were to ask for a full body suit and it’s complex would the prices rise and be a greater amount of money then if I were to commission the simple one?
Correct.
@@Neffertity alright thank you!
WHAT DO YOU MEAN!?! I LOVE IT WHEN EVERY TIME YOU ASK FOR A REFERENCE SHEET PEOPLE ASK WHAT IT IS!!! HAHA AND YOU SPEND AN HOUR EXPLAINING ITTTTTTTTT
also people ask me every other day after i say how long it will take HAHAHA
Can we get a video like this for the artists side of thing please? I've gotten some traditional badges where the artist hasn't bothered updating me WIP wise after the line art stage, then they've gone and completely finished and laminated it and half the markings are just straight up missing
nice
Someone on roblox asked me "can you draw my character?" And the only information given was one colour, not even specific, and that she has kittens. One of those wasn't even important and the other wasn't specific enough. I wasn't even told what pose and background!
My default comment when I commision something that I'm quite happy with is "totally worth the price, (insert comment about communication), hope you guys commion (artist) in the future" sure its canned but when I'm happy with something irl I usually say "hmm I'm quite chuffed with that"
Bit of my appinion but I think its worth saying. If an artist does not give WIP'S for critisism, it's okay to ask for changes on the final piece! Yeah it's a lot to change for them by then, but you have the right to comment, you are the customer. If they never asked for feedback on whips then that's on them for letting you give critisism this late. I've had a commision where I recieved a finished product, but the markings were notably wrong, a very specific marking unique to him had been replaced with a colour fade. Yeah, that needs changing... The artist was nice about it though and it turned out fine! Just a notion that it's not wrong to give critisism on a final piece if you never recieved a wip to begin with, especially if the issue is genuinely problematic (like an incorrect marking)
In that case I can definitely understand it.
Well, this vid was... nice.
_(gets punched in the head)_
This is fab! I’m wondering how to approach an artist when I’ve not been able to flesh out my idea fully and don’t have a ref sheet 😔
Depending on the artist, but many are willing to work off a description alone to design a character for you based on your desires.
Worst refs I ever received... TINY PIXEL REF!! X'D So I told my customer to skectch the detail that the pixel didn't show clearly before I accept their commission.
7:16 I agree with that,Just the word "nice" for some reason kinda hurts to me bc to me it seems like they didnt really appreciate it and I end up over judging my drawing for them and end up deleting it (I draw gifts for people and post it on yt or something) QwQ
I make foam bases and sell them and I get asked all the time were they're foam bases are like every day and I tell them I'm working on it but I'm very very busy with school and cosplays and hangout with friends and family I don't have a lot of time to work on them constantly but I promise them I'll get the bases finshes and shipped to the people that commissioned them but they won't stop asking were they are so how do I stop that? Im working on school right now while making a base for someone and they just wont stop asking were it is 😐
Like I get you're excited but jeez
So do you have any tips on how to make them stop asking constantly?
How do I commission for a suit? Not saying that I wish to go through with that right this second but I had no idea this even existed until 30 mins ago lol.
I do plan to make a video about this, since I've really grown as a fursuot maker since I did this one.
I commissioned a ref 4 months later it wasn't done, I thanked them and then began to work on a ref myself (payed them up front)
Once I bought an oc with like 50 arts and on each art it had litle changings in the desing. So I just get f2u base and I choosed the desing that I like most :)
I’m saving this video so that when my parents let me, I can commission a plushie of mah fursona :D
When she said don't make a one world comment by accident I instantly thought "Yeah! You should make a galaxy comment!"
There's something more unnerving than 'nice'. It's 'thanks'. Lots of back and forth communication, lots of my work, and this is all the commissioner says when the get a pic. Always makes me feel like they don't like the result and want to brush me off. Yuck.
My oc isn't a furry but what if I give you the option to be creative and turn her into one, so u have more artistic freedom? Idk what u call it
I HAVE A QUESTION....
whats a commision??
an order of art, plushies, fursuits etc.
Hey neffertity, if you read these I’d like to make a suggestion. Can you please make a video on how to start taking commissions. I know you’ve already done one but could you make one that covers more on how to start taking them. I’ve been wanting to recently but I can’t figure out how.
*N i c e*
I already have a fursona. I'm not done with it but I don't have a ref sheet like I don't have all of the details like it's only showing the front but not the back or the side or anything so could someone possibly help me once I'm done
Would a back and front view be enough for a ref sheet
i agree with dont change the last monute because when someone commisoned me i showed them the final product and they told me
no do this
do that
and i charged them alot more because they should of told me eariler
If im not good at getting full body on a sheet (I do pencil/traditional drawing), Could I send multiple photos of the character for a referance?
Usually yes.
hey neffertity i commissioned a friend of mine in may and it now December and they still haven't delivered how should I approach the situation without ruining my friendship with them
Start by opening the conversation and asking if there's been any progress on the commission.
What videos and other RUclips channels would you recommend for someone starting out on making plushies? I'm getting started because as a kid no one made the stuffed animals/plushies that I wanted so now I'm hoping to be able to make that unique one for other children from 5-whatever years old.
As an artist on Amino who takes commissions,
I've seen way too many of these.
What if I don't have a ref sheet but have an idea of what my fursona looks like?
Some artists CAN work off descriptions alone, but it is rare.
@@Neffertity thanks :D
Hey... I feel rude when I tell the people I'm commissioning to "Change this" or "I don't like that" so I often just say "Oml I love it!" Or "It so cool!" even if there is something I don't like about it... I mean I am an artist myself and it does not seem rude to me when people tell me, But when I say it to other people...;-;
i feel the same way. when i commission an artist i most of the time like the drawings ,but when there is some parts that i don't like. for example, hair color or some missing parts and then tell them to add/change it. i feel really bad and anxious for saying it thinking the artist might hate me
I had a request recently that had 3 very different sets of colours and outfits for the same character. So many of the ‘dont’ category I have experienced....
i wish more people comunicated more like i draw for fun or most times join art cons on yt and i ask about the charaters more than is on the drawing or picture but then i feel unfair but really im just curious to make sure im drawing the charater correct
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AND HELLO PAST NEFF
IT IS I
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I make tails with no fur but I have my brother wanting a Dragon tail and he's asking me a lot of I started it
What if it is just the back and front views?
i don't know a lot about art but sometimes when iv seen someones art on DA and iv thought oh this may work better next time as this has already been use in the artwork or have seen it used in other bits of work by the same person or other people i leave a message on the post , i start of by saying what i like about the art work then offer constructive criticism of what could have worked better
for example a character in the art work has very bright clothing and the eyes are a light colour that is hard to see because of all the bright colours yet on the same piece have a character that wears dark clothing with light coloured eye to contrast the dark clothing, suggesting the use of a darker shade of the light characters eye colour to contrast the light clothing
I don’t really have the right equipment to do digital art what should it do!!
Can I commission you to make me a stuffed animal?😊😊😊
Not at this time. My commissions are closed till January 2020.
Ok thanks! One day!!!
=O very cool very cool and i subcribed
And i like your hmmm how would i say it the dragon i love it :D
Mmmmmmmmm N I C E
I can't find any good manokit ref sheets 😢
Artbyneffertity.com/free-bases
Why would I have a reference sheet if I’m trying to commission an artist? Isn’t that their job?
If you're looking to commission a reference sheet you need to have at least something to give the artist.
They aren't psychic. And can't read your mind for whatever your character looks like.
Providing things like images of animals or people you want as a base, color palletes, images of clothing or accessories, etc.
Even rough sketches and scribbles can help the artist visualize what you need. And this help create a first time ref sheet.
But giving them nothing and saying "Y U NO DRAW MAH OC RIGHT?!?!?!" Doesn't really help either party.
References matter.
Hello from 2021! uwu
What if we cant draw the reference sheets cuz we bad at drawing
There's lots of free to use bases you can get
@@Neffertity where?
@@dagreenslime4565 Artbyneffertity.com/free-bases
Here's a bunch I've made
I have a question but it may sound really dumb will they draw just the head ???👉👈🙁
haha
nice
So, if i would commission an artist, they would send me a sketch (and i'm also an artsit) and something in the sketch doesn't seems right to me, could i just use red color to show the artist what i want it to look like, and what to change? It would be way easier than explaining how i want it to look like
ok I would not be good with the word nice it’s automatic that I say that 😭
I really want a fursuit made 😅
Btw whats your shop/place name?
Artbyneffertity.com
Hi! Just asking, do you take commissions for fursuits, skull suits in particular? I’ve seen your suits on TikTok and fell in LOVE with them! I’m looking to get a skull wolf and thought maybe you can help. For now I just need to know if you take commissions for skullwolf partials. If you don’t, could you recommend any makers?
I would let you take as long as u want if I ask for a commission and just wait for it to arrive
Most of these do’s and dont kind of go out the window if the artist skips some of the steps.
So I commissioned a fursuit head... i ask for a wip about every 3 or 4 days, is that to often, my maker does usually give me a wip when I ask, but am I asking to often?
why don't you just ask them about that?
Do you do Fursuit Commissions?
I do
@@Neffertity How much per suit? because i'm working on a ref sheet rn! I can't draw good so i'm using a free base lol
@@OfficialMinecrafter0986 You can find my general prices and TOS on my website:
Artbyneffertity.com
@@Neffertity Thanks!
@@Neffertity Oh i'm sorry i can't afford anything at the moment. Maybe in the future.