The FCC Responds to my ATSC 3 Complaint and Wants To Hear From You!
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- Sign the petition: lon.tv/atsc3petition - Info on FCC filing here: See part 1 here: • Save Free TV - Let's S... - The FCC responded to my complaint in regards to the ATSC Encryption and provided a place that we can go on the public record to help #savefreetv ! See more ATSC3 content here: lon.tv/atsc3
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VIDEO INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
01:08 - FCC Response and ATSC 3 Transition
01:55 - How to File Comments on the Docket
03:14 - Tips for Commenting
04:13 - Browsing Other Submissions
06:27 - Advice for Broadcasters
09:05 - Petition Update
09:41 - Change.org Refund
11:36 - Conclusion
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THANK YOU LON! This is a great civic effort you have initiated. I signed the petition and send a separate email to FCC. I pointed out to the FCC that in Japan (where I lived for many years in the past), the government aggressively works to ensure that broadcasting facilities are built out to provide FREE BROADCAST TV to the entire Japanese population. Japan is a very mountainous country and free broadcast TV for all is not cheap. If Japan can provide free broadcast TV to its entire population, so can the U.S.
Great point!
Spot on! I totally agree.
Yes,one would think so.Glad you pointed this out to them.Thank you.Am also glad Lon and Tyler the antenna man are letting persons know about this whole thing.
Broadcast OTA in Japan faces the same DRM issue as ATSC 3. The streams are encrypted and you need an certified box to decrypt them. The only signals that aren't encrypted are the 1seg ones but those are low quality 240p15 feeds primarily meant for mobile consumption
I feel like the persons making the decisions on these matters are already bought and paid for by the broadcasters. Nevertheless we should still try to stop these anti-consumer initiatives any way we can.
Yeah, seems like it's some kind of lobbying, doesn't it?
Good work, man. Comment filed. There is no way we the taxpayers should allow broadcasters to rip us off (any further).
My FCC Commentary I filed:
Being in the Kansas City market and using a roof antenna to decode ATSC 3.0 signal to watch on my private TVs (using HD Homerun tuner from Silicon Dust) and now being in a battle of firmware updates where the Silicon Dust software authors are having to write code from scratch to keep up (and stations commonly going offline in the process) is what prompted me to author this submission.
ATSC 3 OTA being encrypted in a way that's not proactively done (outreach / engagement of the relevant vendors of TV Tuners to ensure compatibility) as well as now rapid onset of DRM insertion for many ATSC 3.0 TV broadcasts so unilaterally (and without warning) while simultaneously campaigning to end the legacy broadcast methods infers an attempt by those using publicly licensed and regulated TV frequencies to blatantly disregard the use cases of those frequencies such as the Emergency Broadcast System / Public Emergency processes, and quite clearly the motive is that of protecting (redirecting) consumption of their content to paid subscription services for the purpose of maximizing revenue and protecting ad revenue, etc.
Given that many if not most TV stations are now owned by large corporate conglomerates, this is becoming very similar to music and other industries who've gone over this same ground before - an attempt at an overreach as to the purpose of DRM (anti-piracy). Recording OTA broadcasts for our own purposes (example - Silicon Dust's HD Homerun product line that records it directly to my hard drive so I can time shift / preserve recordings is not piracy, is well within a consumers legal right, and is BY FAR the most common goal of those using such products, and makes any argument to the contrary (IE that this is a not a profiteering agenda by the broadcasters) fall flat. Similarly, TV sets are something that can be used for years if not decades, and rapid cycling updates to ATSC 3 encryption / DRM for nefarious (or at best insufficiently meritorious) reasons is guaranteed to rapidly make those TV's tuners obsolete and owners unable to use the OTA broadcast route.
This is a severe hardship on those of low income (who are proportionally more at risk from lack of access to emergency broadcast system / local TV station alerts, etc.) and it is also EXACTLY why the FCC made such an effort with the conversion to digital TV signals to avoid this problem. DRM applied to ATSC 3.0 flies right in the face of all of those efforts to protect public health and safety.
What if Yellowstone erupted tomorrow? What if China started attacking mainland USA, particularly if they disrupted the internet and/or hacked infrastructure? Most any of this would threaten or cripple other modalities these broadcasters are attempting to redirect consumers to (streaming / cable / telecom directed access methods). Use of DRM for OTA broadcast TV in such a scenario is a disaster and unjustifiable. I see no effort by the broadcasters to create contingencies. This is no different than undercutting our Public health system for years, which made our pandemic response significantly worse, more delayed, more protracted, etc.
For many different reasons, this to me puts these broadcasters in default over many of the responsibilities they own to be able to have the privilege of using public airway frequencies. There is simply no legitimate argument to the rapid flee they are pushing for from legacy ATSC and toward 3.0 other than the desire to lock down, silo, and monetize their use of public airways.
This cannot stand, and FCC does need to step in -- much like has happened with the Music industry, and check this corporate greed motive and put appropriate limitations in place to protect the public good, and to protect against monopolization and de facto privatization of what is intended to be a public "greater good" system that's been successfully maintained since the beginning of the TV industry. This to me is no different than HAM radio manufacturers putting a man in the middle encryption tech on those radios and charging users a recurrent fee to unlock those public frequencies to be used as they are licensed for. FCC Please take action to properly moderate the use and standardization protocols of the ATSC 3.0 spectrum and protect the rights of your citizenry as well as the governmental "greater good" obligation of these public airway frequencies.
Your right low income cannot afford cable and thier own home wifi, it's ridiculous, origanlly they took away analog and said it was because the military needed it, then if Im wording this correctly, cable is only way to watch tv, long time ago cable didn't cost too much but in this day of age, we need cable to get wifi , which we need in our home, just crazy❤
Just a reminder: the official name of Taiwan🇹🇼is the republic of China. Only commies and their running dogs would attack the west, not China.
But yet, it's OK to record to a dvr owned by the cable company as long as you're paying a monthly fee and as long as you're paying the criminals at TiVo a monthly fee to use their device its OK.
Joe, emergency alerts are broadcasted on both atsc 1.0 and 3.0, I don't quite understand what you are trying to say about how this hurts low income earners. We went through the shutting down of analog years ago when the broadcasters went to 1.0 years ago, and everybody survived, no broadcaster can shut down 1.0 before July of 2027, even then, the FCC is going to revisit if the public is ready for it, and if they think that it will cause a big problem, they can push the date back that broadcasters can shut down 1.0, they already said this date is not written in stone. The biggest thing some people are having a problem with is the encrypting, and not having the ability to record shows, the FCC is not going to allow broadcasters to charge people for tv broadcast on publicly owned frequencies, but they will not force them to send out a signal that can be recorded, and I can see both sides of the arguments, it's free, so you should be able to record for your own viewing, but if everybody is recording the shows, so they can skip through the commercials, advertisers would not want to pay for commercial spots, and if broadcasters are not getting paid for running commercials, how are they going to pay for content to put on their stations?
The pirates are going to find a way to break DRM. They always do! This only hurts those trying to be honest. Copy protection never works.
Thank you for raising the alarm. I used your guide to file a complaint in consideration of the elderly and disabled, who are often on a fixed income.
Doesn’t mean diddly as in the NY Metro market, absolutely none of the broadcast stations have even indicated they are interested in ATSC 3.0. Much less indicated any plans at all to implement it.
I did my part and uploaded this message to the FCC website - hopefully they will hear from enough of us to force the issue. Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention!
Please keep ATSC 3.0 free to consumers. When broadcast stations encrypt ATSC 3.0 over the air broadcasts, as they are starting to do, it goes against the spirit of serving the public interest and will prevent many of us consumers from recording and/or watching shows using our own receiving equipment and dvrs and will require the use of only specialized tuners with "ATSC 3.0 DRM certification" many will be driven to cable or satellite reception for which broadcasters get higher retransmission revenue. This has already made many of the tuners on the market unusable in many parts of the country and the broadcasters may pull certification at any time for any reason. TV has always been free to over the air viewers since the inception of TV broadcasts and the FCC has regulations in place to keep it that way. Please act to protect our right to watch free over the air tv and not let the broadcasters pursue activities that will drive people away from their free tv and into the world of subscription services which will pad the pockets of broadcast tv stations. Thank you
Most people just want convience. I think DRM pushes more people towards piracy then would occur naturally. That's what happened with music.
The internet isn't the same as it was 15 - 20 years ago.
Most people are unaware such a thing exists, are not technically savvy enough
@@derek20la not really. Piracy is on the statistical rise again.
Antenna Man is fabulous and I’ve used his expert service. In addition to wife and I signing petition, now I’ll ask relatives to sign as well. Many use OTA TV to cut the cord.
I sent this a got a conformation., I am a longtime user of over the air tv. I was an early adopter of ATSC 1.0 and have all that I need for ATSC 3.0. I am currently in a fringe are north of Seattle with some interference that I have been hoping to see ATSC 3.0 fix. Seattle is now broadcasting 3.0 from two towers, but with low power that has so far help my reception one bit, but I keep hoping. We are a retired family living on Social Security and would prefer to have free TV and we thought that the 3.0 signals would Medigate the nearly $1,000 investment that we have made so far. Now we hear that they a planning to encode the signal, such that my HDHomeRun may not decode. Please don't let them do that. I was always told that the airways were fee, ya, with ads.
Signed the petition and made my comment to the FCC. Thanks Lon for spearheading this important issue for consumers.
Thank you for doing this, Lon. This is incredibly important work. I've signed the petition, sent a comment to the FCC, and will be watching and cheering you on!
DRM of ANY kind in ANY circumstance should be ILLEGAL.
I stopped watching broadcast TV on a regular basis simply because of all the commercials, and the fact that those commercials were louder than the show I'm not watching while I'm trying to sleep.
I cut the cable 3 yrs ago and watch 30 mins of local news a day and that is struggle due to the lack of in-depth reporting that leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Even though I have OTA that will get most of the networks I simply no longer watch TV networks.
Signed and also filed the FCC express comment. A main point to bring up in the brief comment section is for those of us who bought SD HD Homerun 4k tuners, DRM implementation will most likely not allow us to use our products that we bought, WITH THE INTENTION OF VIEWING ATSC 3.0.
There is zero (good) reason to encrypt DTV transmissions. That's one aspect in which the ISDB-Tb standard we have over here is better than the others: it supports no DRM.
Thanks for giving this issue light . The Broadcast networks have to be stopped
In there effort to Make the public airways paid .
Lon, thanks for all of your good work. I've signed the petition and filed a comment with the FCC. I cut the cord from cable a few months ago. I'm using a Tablo DVR and am very pleased with it.
I filled out the continuing message to the FCC per your suggestion! Thanks to you and Tyler the Antenna man.. I'm so grateful to both of you for the work you are putting in here!!! God Bless you both!!!
I have signed the petition and sent an express comment to the FCC as well, thank you Lon!
Done and done.. thank you for bringing more light to this issue.
Yea, so I sent some $. What needs to be called out here is that the FCC's charter for radio and TV stations is that it belongs to "the people". The broadcasters are allowed a license ONLY while they put "the people" first.
Local TV isn't funded by us, despite how much they might say they are working for us. We don't need full on libertarianism here, but it is a good example of how freedom requires a balance of needs. Network Neutrallity was unbearable.
At the end of the day you live in a capitalist society where freedom is never guaranteed if being free leads to less profit, oppression will be chosen to maximize profit.
However if you want a broadcast system that is paid by the people and exists for the people there is actual public TV like PBS. Instead of trashing public broadcasters like the BBC, libertarianism could recognize public broadcasters as being pro freedom.
PBS is transparent with who funds their programming and if like me you have a problem with an episode of Nova being skewed editorially by its funder, you have the freedom to choose a different source of information and entertainment.
You should look into how public broadcasters operate compared with commercial syndicated overlords.
IMPO, no over-the-air-broadcasts should ever be encrypted. Allowing DRM for OTA broardcasts is not in harmony with appropriately free society!
I signed the petition and submitted a message to the FCC referring to 16-142.
Thank you Lon for getting the word out and informing us on what is happening behind the scenes when it comes to free public tv and what we can do about it. Hopefully our opinions will be heard and we can make a difference.
I finally got through and logged in a response. I also wrote both Connecticut U.S. Senators on this subject.
DRM is always AWFUL! Gott get the "Antenna Guy in PA" and do a collab!
They are.
Antenna Man and his subscribers are wanting and willing and ARE going to help out.
I unsubscribed from antenna man as he turned commentary off.
@@KA4UPW Must’ve been for only one video. The comment section is widely active and full of people who want to talk about antenna tv.
@@KA4UPW 🤷🏻♂️ I still can post
Thanks for raising the awareness. Petition just submitted.
I reside in Chicago, and I find it puzzling that my ASTC3 market only broadcasts one channel with no other options available. For over 20 years, I have relied on my personal DVR system. I vividly recall the shift from NTSC to ATSC. I wonder if the FCC plans to provide complimentary digital tuners for ASTC3. The transition from NTSC to ASTC was a farce and a waste of resources, as the boxes offered became electronic waste. It perplexes me why broadcasters believe they have the authority to encrypt their signals. The term "Free to Air" (FTA) implies that one of the reasons the FCC leases the radio band to them is to provide unrestricted access.
Thank you for fighting the good fight.
I didn't donate to them; I just agreed to share it and it's on my facebook page, and a few of my friends and I signed the petition. Thanks for the work you're doing!
I did not donate, either.I did signed the petition.And,I also shared this on my Facebook page as well.I have the following suggestion.If you are on Facebook,why not shared this?The more persons who know,the better.
Yep, @@jameskilrain38, good!
Thank you, Lon. I used your submission but heavily customized it to my personal experience. You'll see it in your RSS feed soon enough.
You do such a terrific job that I can do nothing more than wish you all the best on your journey through life.
Cheers,
John
Another thing to consider is using different recorders and playback devices from separate programs. For example, I record OTA with ChannelsDVR (because Plex often fails with the slightest glitch), but then move those files into Plex for a much nicer looking playback interface.
wow, avsforum kicked you out? That's surprising. Would think you'd have a receptive audience there.
For my family personally, we live in a tornado prone state. If public broadcasts are DRM encrypted like this, how will rural households receive timely information during tornado or other severe weather warnings. Just food for thought, FCC should consider literally protecting the people, as much, if not more, than the corporation’s profits.
Encrypting would not keep you from seeing a emergency warning, not having a tv or converter box that is not compatible with the new signal would, just like if you kept using a analog TV after we switch to digital, when they shut down the analog signal, the tv would not work without a converter box, at the earliest, atsc 1.0 can not be shut down until July of 2027, and at that time the FCC is going to revisit if the public is ready to switch over, they said if they are not, they will push the date back. Back in 2009 when analog could be shut down, almost every tv sold in the US since 2007 had a digital tuner, so I think the FCC will look at how many tvs being sold have 3.0 tuners, and how long the majority of tvs sold the previously years had them, and the affordability of converter boxes.
TV's generally don't have battery backup.
They could compromise and turn off the encryption during severe weather coverage or even local broadcast hours in general.
That is to say DRM primetime and wheel of fortune if you want but why are people pirating wheel of fortune anyway 😂. Yep DRM the super bowl, please let us keep our ability to watch TV in a power outage.
@duracell80 you need to read up on encrypting, either you have a tuner that is certified to decode encrypting, or you don't, you can buy tvs that allows you to watch encrypted broadcast, and external boxes are coming to the market that can also decode the signal, a couple manufacturers rush their external tuners to market that is not compatible with with the encrypted signals
@@Michael-Joseph123 As I understand what Lon says and shows at 0:23 into the video, is that the Connecticut CBS affiliate has locked their broadcast signal via DRM encryption. It even shows the little lock icon next to the CBS affiliate's call sign. Lon goes on to say or implies that by doing this, the broadcasters are wanting to push into subscription service for their "free OTA" broadcasts. This all seems crazy to me, but living in July of 2023, I've seen some sh*t that makes me less likely to ignore Lon.
@divadnwahs3675 DRM is to prevent recording shows, but if you have a tuner that is certified by nextgen, encrypting can still be watched, the tvs that come with nextgen tuners are not locked out, right now that is all new Sony tvs, and a handful if LG, Hisense, and Samgung tvs, one company is supposed to be shipping sold certified external boxes at the end of the month, and another company just had their external tuners certified to be sold, when Lon said that CBS locked out all their atsc 3.0 station in his area, he should have said that CBS encrypted their channel, and external tuners that were rushed to the market and did not go through the proper channels of getting certified, will not decode the encrypted signal.
I live fulltime in an RV and travel frequently (~weekly). I wonder if this explains why we have been in some areas, even recently, and not seen some of the major channels I'd expect to see show up when we scan the local airwaves with our TV. There are a lot of RVers that would probably be upset to have to spend anything additional or go to any new hassle for getting over the air TV.
Please share to RV groups!
I'm sure they were upset in 2009 when analog was shutdown, and they had to buy a new tv or converter box, especially since tv's were more expensive back then, than they are now, I remember paying $800 for a 32 inch Sony, today I can buy a 65 inch 4k tv cheaper than that.
I will NEVER pay for over the air TV. If that becomes the new norm, I’ll take down my antenna and watch DVD’s.
Here comes pay for ota signals.Meanwhile we are swamped with commercials.
Thanks Lon I made a comment on the ECFS site!
In Europe it's all about the capacity of 4K and HD in the traditional antenna network. I know in Switzerland some Sports channels only broadcast via internet which leads to the fact some other broadcasters need to convert their signal in order to send it further. Pay-TV is not popurlar in Finland. Only fans of hockey and soccer are ready to pay.
You and the Antenna Man should make a joint video to put in the record. Better yet go there and testify.
Maybe a GoFundMe for the Amtrak tickets and hotel expenses of a DC trip
Filed a commnets with the FCC
One thing that this new standard should come is not having to run an scan channel in order to watch tv, tv set should be able to go through the 36 tv channel. This is espacial important for truck driver that go from one place to another place. Trucker keep American moving.
Thank you for this. :)
Lon, thanks for this video. I currently have a receiver from SiliconDust and use with my Plex server. I had been looking at their v3 receiver and was considering getting one. I can't believe that encrypting these broadcasts is even legal. My aunt (rip) never had cable or Internet and relied on broadcast TV for all her news and entertainment. What will become of people like these if everything is encrypted?
Don't need TV. Not worried about it. My TV will be out on the curb when that happens.
Lon, you are the man of the people!
I wrote to my congressman and urged him to force streaming services that bundle "Free TV" with a lot of stuff most people don't want or that many people can't afford, and require those services offer network TV as an a la carte service. Congress has tried to make Cable TV offer a la carte services in the past, but the difference was that most of the cable content was never free and some of the more business favoring representatives have refused to consider this. Here, we are talking about truly free TV and since those broadcasters are trying to obstruct our ability to record content (and so many people have to due to their work or travel schedules) and many will be forced to go to a streaming service, then that same "Free TV" should be made avialable as an a la carte option that the subscriber can buy individually or along with other bundles, but under my idea of legislation, it would have to be offered as a stand alone option (many cable companies used to do that, offering a "basic" service that was just broadcast TV). If everyone had to offer it as a stand alone service, then would think that the competition would help keep prices down. While I might have to pay $10 month or something, the convenience of not having to have a separate tuner that could decrypt and have a scheduling service, and the manage DVR space, instead using on demand, to view content, then it might be worth it to me. Now I am a reasonably technical person and I could probably work out a way still record to disk, but it is just a lot of hassle and buy the time you put all of the equipment together and manage it all, it just does not see worth it IF (and it is a big IF) you could buy just the network news streaming from the outlets that now make you buy a big bundle. We should all be asking our congressional represenative for this kind of legislation because there are a lot of people that may be deprived of any easy solution to record their favorite shows when they are working or traveling. It would not be "Free TV" but at least it would be an affordable option to stream it, and those that can manage to find ways to record on our own would still have the option to do so. Don't think just of yourselves though. Think of all of the other people that will be affected that my not have the technical ability to forge a solution.
Yep just after 99' most all of the music stores closed up. I miss going to a place and plugging my headphones into a 'jutebox' of new music and albums before choosing what albums you wanted that day.
Hi Lon - I have signed the petition and just submitted my comment to the FCC. As you know, we in CT have now lost 40% of our ATSC 3.0 channels. It's very disappointing :(
I mentioned emergency notification alerts won't be seen. Since a few people have a radio, TV is the next best to get this information if cell phone towers go down. I will contact the satellite and cable providers to pull off encrypted channels.
They will still show them on atsc 1.0, it's going to be years before that is shut down, their not even going to revisit talks about a shut down until 2027, and determine if it is feasible.
The word "Broadcasting" originally came about with early radio and it meant to cast a signal broadly.
Yep! And the "broadcast" model can be a money maker. In the Bad Old Days (sometimes called the Golden Age of broadcasting), many popular programs were associated with a single sponsor. Texaco sponsored Uncle Milton. Phillip Morris sponsored I Love Lucy. Firestone sponsored a drama show. But the networks didn't like this.
But with digital TV even in rural areas there are several times the number of available channels than there are "major" networks. Like others, we simply don't look for new network shows; we only find out about them when they go to syndication and we can binge watch. Thus, the networks pay for new show development but end up losing most of the profit to the producers.
Support your local PBS stations.
Signed the petition. Submitted a response to the FCC.
Didn't know if you wanted me to post my comment to the FCC here too, I saved the text.
One thing you can do is buy some air time on local radio and TV stations to get your message to more people. Community radio & TV stations may have free air time. Have you tried getting air time on the major pay TV services or news outlets? How about to your local news papers?
I got the same boiler-plate response when I filed a complaint about 4 weeks ago
And now she has several hundred comments in her docket and growing :)
Also mention the EAS access due to encryption. I also mentioned that if it costs to much people will not watch anymore and small TV stations shutdown and thus hurts the FCC itself (license revenues).
I signed the petition. Not sure if I signed it more than once by now, I can't remember. I live on a mountain. I get TV stations out of 3 different states. I get something like 150 channels on a channel scan yet the only thing I really watch over the air is local news and very little. And Scripps and France24, both of which are broadcast in SD (or worse). I'm brainstorming on how the encryption will adversely effect me personally. What haven't I thought of?
If the goal of the providers is subscriptions (ie: revenue) then one way to knock that down is for no one to subscribe. When a potential ad customer sees that a station has a low user base then they might be less likely to buy ad time. Also not sure how a broadcaster utilizing public airwaves can legally block users similar to cable companies.
Thanks for posting this. I have added my comments to the fcc site. I am very concerned that this will kill dvr software like plex and others that people use. Also very fearful that network tuners may not work or we lose abilities like watching broadcast TV from home on our own mobile devices when we are away from home. We currently use plex for that when we go camping.
I am in the Las vegas, Nevada market. Channel 13.1 is encrypted with DRM and my Zapper Box was recently updated to receive DRM Broadcasts. Future downloads from Zapper box will allow recording of DRM channels. I have an internet connection to my box and I thought the future of ATSC 3 was to allow seamless internet integration and advanced features including pay per view as well as free advertiser supported TV.
I filed a comment and signed the petition.
I was unable to respond to your email in reference to DRM encryption to the FCC. It keeps telling me put my name in and I do, but can't complete the form with my comments. I will be writing both my U>S> Senators on this subject.
Lon, thanks for all the great content! I'm also in CT. I have the HDHomerun Flex 4K and use the Channels DVR. The latest update to the Flex 4K allows me to watch WVIT 3.0. Channels doesn't even show WVIT 3.0 in the guide. Will I be able to record on Channels any time soon?
Unlikely unless they get certified for DRM unfortunately
fun fact as a son of a ham radio operatior . a dule band must be used a liances must be issued to the consumer from the fcc to even handshake the encription.
No idea what you're trying to say here. Ham radio has no encryption. It's illegal. A transmitter has to be FCC approved (supposedly---many are sold that are not). Other devices are certified to meet FCC Part 15 rules, but that is just the manufacturer making that claim. Nobody really checks unless there are specific complaints.
If I lived in the USA I would be commenting on this and would be specifically mentioning that a TV standard that requires connecting a TV or set top box to the internet at any point causes harm because many people do not have an internet connection (or they don't have one that they can plug their TV or set top box into).
I'm watching wfsb ch 3 right now using my antenna. I have a Homeworx set top box.
You're on the ATSC 1.0 signal that was is not encrypted but the ATSC 3.0 one is. The ATSC 1 signal is not reliable here unfortunately.
Broadcasters have worked incredibly hard to ensure their own extinction. Witness their idiotic lawsuit against Aereo years ago: A company wanted to expand broadcasters' reach and gain them viewers (and increased ad revenue) AT NO COST to the broadcasters. What did broadcasters do? SUE Aereo out of existence. Then there's the fact that broadcasters extort cable and satellite providers to do the same thing. They demand PAYMENT for their ad-ridden programming, which is made more valuable to advertisers by the fact that cable and satellite companies are carrying it. Oh, and then there's the fact that broadcast channels demand that you log in with cable-TV credentials simply to watch their advertising-ridden programming online. Just when you thought that broadcasters couldn't rip us off any further, they're trying to rob taxpayers of the TV spectrum that WE OWN.
Do not stand for this. Submit a comment to the FCC as directed here, demanding that encryption be prohibited on the public airwaves and stating that you won't be able to receive the TV we're all entitled to view.
Yes, the television broadcasters are committing business suicide. The corporate executives who run these broadcasting companies should be doing everything in their power to increase their audience, not limit it.
However, the radio broadcasters seem to be doing everything to encourage people to listen to their stations, in whatever manner their listeners choose. In my area, some of the radio stations broadcast in two different locations, on two different frequencies, in order to expand their reach. You can visit their Web site to stream their content. In addition, they advertise their app so you can more easily listen on your smartphone. Furthermore, they heavily promote listening on your smart speaker.
The TV executives should take notes from the radio industry.
I signed it
Is there anything that Canadian antenna viewers can do? As a Canadian, we receive the American channels (ABC, CBS, etc).
Is there any way we can help out? I enjoy being able to watch American content (especially sporting events).
I feel sorry for you Canadians that love DX-ing.
I no longer live in the US but understand the frustration and believe that they need to find a compromise like they have here in Japan. All Japanese TVs being made must come with a card to allow for decryption of OTA channels that allow for it. There are still some unencrypted OTA channels here, but not many. If they offered something like they did with the analog to digital broadcast, then I don't see an issue. However, there has to be a standard for decryption such as when the FCC made CableCards mandatory for cable providers.
However, with the recent changes such as cable companies no longer having to support CableCards, I seriously doubt they are going to back down on the decision of encryption for OTA. I hope that they do for all those who use OTA because the price of these +services (Disney+, etc) and price of increasing streaming services and cable are getting out of control. I know people who pay $300+ for cable TV.
Take a look at the ONDigital failure in the UK. Essentially a cable card system. The BBC had to bail it out and relaunch as Freeview. If it wasn't for the BBC, digital TV in the UK may have failed ... And it's still the case that the system the BBC helped create DOES NOT portent doom and gloom for Americans because y'all's TV isn't state owned so don't even.
I think contacting Congress would also be the way to go. Congress is all politics and if they think it could get a vote then all of a sudden they are on your side.
I couldn't find it by typing in 16-142, instead I typed in "Permissive" and the search box found it. I filed my complaint as this is against the public interest as it forces equipment upgrades and can block access to vital information.
Thanks Lon, I've done this but I don't think anything will come of this since greed of the broadcasters will win out and the FCC doesn't really care 😞
I couldn't sign the petition... maybe something about Brave browser I use. Kept getting error.
But I did fill out the FCC comments request.
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I am writing to oppose the plans of national over-the-air television broadcasters to DRM Encrypt their ATSC 3.0. They are taking advantage to put those encryptions where people don’t even know what is going on.
I currently sorta get ATSC 1.0... but due to my physical situation - live right next to a hospital that blocks signals... not all of them, but I cannot get the weaker signals. But the worst part is when a helicopter comes in for landing, the signal gets blocked and I pretty much loose the rest of the episode, or news coverage. I need to have news to keep informed. I was reading about how ATSC 3.0’s (from now on just 3.0) is so much more stable. I cannot tell the hospital stop using helicopters to bring in injured or people in serious conditions. I saw an online video where the guy could watch 3.0 TV in a moving car! I then started to dream and hope that as soon as an 3.0 TV tuner is available, that I would purchase it, so that I can deal with my frequently disconnecting TV signals with 1.0. I have to switch as soon as that TV tuner is available. Just in June 29, a Silicone Dust blog, stated that KNBC and KCBS here in Los Angeles has started their 3.0 signals. However, the box I am thinking of getting is going to get is not getting these signals because they are blocked due to DRM software. Giving these broadcasters, now this absolute power to just switch on DRM is not right. I haven’t purchased the HD Silicone Dust device. But Analog signals where not blocked, and 1.0 signals where not blocked. and am crying right now because I am furious these people can just switch DRM and block everything. I cannot afford cable services, there just no way. I am a disabled vet on a limited income.
I am looking forward to 3.0 coming along, but since it is only a few channels and it is being rolled out so slowly... I got lucky I saw this news on the internet. If I hadn’t seen this process to let the FCC know my situation. Please do not let these broadcasters, just do whatever the hell they want. I will be contacting both my state politicians and national politicians.
We the people need to have access to good information and basic programs, without the greedy broadcasters establish pay-walls. I should also be able to record tv programs for later viewing, just like I am able to do now.
Broadcasters should go after those who steal their IP, but not to kill over the air signals.
I am very much looking to the stability of 3.0, I am still waiting to see if the 3.0 tuners can get down to $100 or less. I hope it comes soon. I hate getting my signal cut off by some helicopter coming in to save someone’s life. Loosing the signal with 1.0 is horrible. I am looking forward to having stable 3.0 signals... and away from unstable 1.0 signals.
I know my situation is unique because I live right next to the hospital.
Don’t let these companies become Signal Dictators. They make more than enough money... I also live to too far from the studios and see their executives just make boatloads of money.
Never let broadcasters put DRM on the news or a blanket DRM of their whole channel.
I understand the need for DRM from their perspective. Could there be a balance where the local news/severe weather coverage is unencrypted? 24/7 DRM seems a bit overkill.
For example an EF3 Tornado came through my neighborhood and my network tuner not only helped know it was headed our way, we lost power. My network equipment is on battery backup including my HDHomeRun so I was able to watch TV when the TV's didnt work.
Our cell towers were saturated by people on social media and also our emergency services were in overdrive. Having an ATSC network tuner can be something other than recording the Price Is Right while you're out to dinner.
Do you understand encrypting, why would you want it removed for only news and severe weather coverage? DRM just makes it so you are unable to record the program, this what the DRM does, it does not prevent you from watching TV, unless you bought a atsc 3.0 tuner that was rushed to the market, and did not work with the national broadcasters, tv manufacturers who went through the proper channels are not effected by encryption.
Jokes on them already. I watch more RUclips than standard TV. They lost me years ago.
Me too! I haven't turned my TV on in a couple of years but still it would be nice to tune into a local channel in case of an extreme weather or health emergency especially since my internet seems go go out during severe weather. There are many reasons why this is so wrong.
@@5954ldydi My primary TV now serves solely as a large computer monitor.
@@Eternal_Tech Yeah mine would too but I still have a older analog TV w/the digital converter thingy... LOL. Hoping to replace it once I move soon. It would be nice because right now mine is one HUGE dust magnet. LOL
@@5954ldydi I have an old, large CRT TV that I want to get rid of, too. There is actually a renewed interest in CRT televisions among some gamers, as they have a shorter response time than LCD TVs. There are listings on Craigslist for CRT TVs, so when you are interested in getting rid of it, you may be able to sell it there.
Local tv is dead or dying ... even with local station app,or on internet
there info is already 4 to 5 hours old other sources have already reported on it
The only place I see local stations or network TV is at doctor office because they still has a cable box
who else could paid for it
Good video. Your chart shows 17 BILLION in ringtone sales at one point? Never would have guessed.
Wow I didn't notice that earlier! It looks like Statista may have combined a few different download formats there and mislabeled. The largest ringtone year was $1.5 billion but still crazy considering it's not the whole song. www.riaa.com/u-s-sales-database/
Hey Lon. What happened to the weekly wrap up? I miss them, because sometimes you would mention reviews that somehow the RUclips algorithm never showed me although I’ve been subscribed forever. Maybe like a bite size here’s what I uploaded on the channel this week type thing. Maybe as shorts?
The algorithm didn’t show you the video I made about this :). Best way is to subscribe to my email lists or follow the rss feeds. Email is Lon.tv/digest for daily lon.tv/email for the weekly
Could someone answer a question for me? Before I write comments to the FCC about this, would this encryption technologically allow the broadcasters to lock up certain shows for pay--for example, could they use the encryption to lock up the Superbowl or a popular drama and have a subscription or pay per view type thing to view them? Thank you.
Yes, expect a 1-800 number for them to charge you to see the SuperBowl in 4K
Thank you.
If I have to pay to watch over the air broadcast, I may as well just stick to cable or satellite. After all I would have more choices with these two over broadcast plus I thought commercials were supposed to pay for the programing on over the air content..
When the broadcasters make it difficult to consume their content, there are a myriad of ways to consume it using pirate trade routes.
the encryption thing in ATSC 3.0 is unfair but many channels their business is not longer the OTA broadcast, but their own streaming platforms, since that now is that the real business and the encryption is to avoid to record any TV series that they later charge you in a streaming service of the same channel to watch it
I saw the email was very tricky to filled out proceeding(s) 16-142 code part I had to do it my computer but I able to respond I did respond back I'd mention unaffordable encoder boxes to me and most people to watch ota atsc 3. I wish I saw your video before so people mention not be able to watch emergency broadcast. I would added about emergency broadcast to comment.
As more and more tv's start coming with nextgen tuners, I think you will start seeing the converter boxes start coming down in price, they will probably be priced like the converter boxes when we switched to atsc 1.0 years ago, inflation adjusted of course, look how much you had to pay for the first microwaves when they first came out, now there a fraction of that price. 5 years down the road, you might not be able to buy a tv without a nextgen tuner, just last year you couldn't buy a tv with a nextgen tuner without spending big bucks, now you can buy one for $500, and in the next year, budget tv's will have them.
Already did this.
And if they want an example of why not to do this. HDRadio (Hybrid Digital). The signals are effectively DRM'd ... Equipment able to tune to the signal didn't take off and the licensing and hoops car manufacturers have to jump through limit the availability of the technology in cars. HDRadio can carry weather information and it would be such a headache for a weather radio manufacturer to bring in that functionality to their devices bceause of how overly tied up in rights management the music industry got themselves into.
As it goes, as it did with DVD and libcss and BlueRay with MakeMKV ... Someone much smarter than us will be able to decrypt the signal. And at that point it's the pirates who will take advantage of that. It will still be too difficult for the average consumer to employ illegal decryption for legitimately fair use as covered by the supreme court.
What is the deadline for submitting comments?
With all the options for video entertainment, why are they so worried about people copying content? I didn't realize it was that big of a deal. And almost every station has their logo onscreen.
If there encrypting signals cable & satellite companies will get the lock out also or they will get a decoder from the network? I am sure someone will make a decoder/descrambler like they do for digital cable.
They already have a decoder, it's called a tv or top box that is certified to work with the broadcast.
I remember when the FCC was an independent agency interested in public good. Now it seems almost all of our federal agencies are just in it for themselves.
I have a question did the stations buy the spectrum or was it given to them? Working on my writeup.
The broadcaster buys the rights from the FCC but the down own the spectrum
They heard from me loud and clear.
DRM is plain awful. But to be honest, most of the content on the ota channels is reality programming, reruns and news. For me, there is very little compelling content ota. This would just be the final nail in the coffin.
Agreed and most news stations post individual stories on their own website. You don't have to sit through minutes of ads like you would if you watched their newscasts on linear television.
another issue is drm equipment and associated costs of getting those hooked up. you are reliant upon the equipment for a picture to see. now if the box goes kaput im dead in the water without services i am paying for . add in the requirements of having to be dependent upon 2 companies for watching tv. with ota simply have a tv set and in some areas a paper clip and a coat hanger im watching hd tv for free. or a less then $20 investment with as many tvs as I care to hook up.
You can still watch on the signal you use now, and if they ever switch over to only the nextgen signal, all new tv's will come with the new tuner,it will work just like when we switched from analog to atsc 1.0, their not selling analog tv's anymore. You should also see converter boxes coming down, remember the prices of microwave ovens when they first came to the market, they were 7 or 8 hundred dollars, and that was years ago, now you can buy them for under $100.
@mikerobertoy3666 maybe. Maybe not..
At this day and age don't trust anyone.
If there locking 🔒 down broadcasts this minute,
I'm with Leo Laporte on this one. The only people typically affected by DRM are the honest, legit consumers, usually in the form of something not working even though it's all plugged in and stuff. The pirates always figure out a way to do the decryption, and have been doing that ever since the MacroVision on VHS days. The HD Fury supposedly gets right around HDCP (haven't seen one myself, so I assume they do what they say on the tin). DVD CSS was a joke. And so on and so forth.
Aren't the stations doing this going to lose advertisers? Of course, they're losing automotive advertisers already, and Tesla never did advertise. Do they think subscriptions will make up for it?
The FCC looks out for the broadcasters the ones who donate to politicians.
I’ve heard that South Korea has asrrc3 , do they have DRM ? Cable tv has priced itself out of our wallet. It’s suppose to be free tv. All they want is more money
I sent my comment.