Thank you for helping me out as well. I’m about 5 miles north of Lon as the crow flies. My almost identical setup has been rock solid for over a year. If it weren’t for ATSC 3.0 I wouldn’t have a chance of getting WTNH.
As an ex-TV repair man (person) from the 60's, tube type TV's, my most frequent outside job was replacing roof antennas. Main issue was that after a few years the 3 bolts holding them into the roof would cause leaks, even with the blob of roofing tar/cement on them. The best option was what I used on my previous homes. Steel conduit (thick 2.5") special order 20' and a 5 gallon bucket (sunk into the ground) with hole in it for the conduit to go through. Pounded the conduit into the ground a few feet, slid the bucket down the conduit into the hole, filled the bucket with cement, covered it with dirt to hide it, mounted the conduit to roof fascia (into a rafter) and pounded in a 10' ground rod which I connected to it. It withstood 65+ mph wind during many storms. So, what to do now here in Florida, with all the lightning that happens? I had a highly rated smaller antenna with a rotator on it which was a dud. After researching antennas, I found one and the Antenna Guy has high ratings on it, the ATSC 3 transmitting antenna is about 35 miles away, but before I buy it I need to research some information that I saw regarding the OTA TV companies eventually stopping their "FREE" ATSC-3 transmission to all but one channel each and going to a subscription base service. I guess the government in one of their rulings allowed for this. Need to look deeper into this, before purchasing an expensive antenna. Currently using RUclips TV as our choice and they just raised their rates. Uhhhh soon they will be charging as much as the cable companies do
This is fantastic timing! Just tonight I talked my stepfather into getting the HD Homerun Flex 4k, after two of his subscription services bumped up their monthly prices on him. I'm recommending he get the exact same Televes Dat Boss antenna in time, but for now we're going to start with a small indoor antenna that we've tested and found to be adequate for the moment. Tyler The Antenna Man really knows his stuff, and I'm so glad I found him, and you, to get advice from.
Nice. I grabbed the Silicondust 4k ATSC 3.0 tuner ~18 months ago. Boston area channels, which I am in range of in NH, didn't have ATSC 3.0 feeds until very recently but they are live now. I've really enjoyed the OTA TV and not paying Comcast exorbitant fees for TV I rarely watch.
Tried many, Danny Hodges antenna gets at least all these channels. Over 60 honest miles away. Telescoping pole, don't even need a rotator although I added one anyway. Super happy with the result. Danny is da man!
Back in the early ATSC 1.0 days I placed a serious winegard antenna on my chimney. What they don't tell you is that the antenna may loosen some of the motar over time. I decided to move my antenna into my attic. I lost a dew decibels of signal but since I've never been that far from the TV antennas serving Boston (im by Worcester), it still worked out very well. I did however need to add an amplifier.
This prompted me to check the status of the atsc3 rollout in my state. Lo and behold, the main stations near me have all gone live with it. So now I need to update my HD Homerun tuner box…
In line with the "put the tuner near the coax entry, since it's networkable", the HDHomeRun ATSC3 power inlet is a 12V 3.5x1.35 DC barrel. I got a PoE splitter from PoE Texas (which has a 5.5x2.1 DC barrel output) and a cheap barrel adapter from Amazon and now Ethernet and power for my FLEX ATSC3 unit is provided from my switch. Which is handy, since there is no AC outlet near where the antenna lead is...
We cut the cord years ago and have never looked back. Saved hundreds of dollars a year. We live outside of town and receive 50 channels without any signal problems.
I'm in central long island and pick up the CT and NYC markets. The ATSC 3.0 is great way more stable picture and quality is great i hope they dont encrypt the channels like they do in other markets.
Watching this helps me realize: I'm so lucky where I'm at in Portland that I have a super cheap antenna that I _could_ just lay it on the floor and _still_ have really high quality signal. I've also got fiber and have been using YTTV for a while but, considering recent price hikes, has me *strongly* considering alternatives considering how little I even use YTTV these days! (and I don't watch sports on TV)
Enjoyed your video! I just duck taped a Mohu Premium Pro indoor antenna on a window and all my channels came in crystal clear. I have heard outdoor antenna`s have problems in the wind and rain. Just have to figure out the best DVR so I can watch on my own schedule and skip thru the commercials. Glad I stumbled upon your channel!
I have a 100 mile outside antenna that I put up at 25ft. It works pretty good and I have guy wires of 18 gauge steel that are designed for high winds since here in Florida we get Hurricanes! I would like to add an ATSC 3.0 tuner to my TV since it doesn't have the newer tuner. I have been waiting for someone to come out with a lower priced tuner since I don't want to pay $200 for one. I was hoping this spring they would be on the market so I'm keeping my eyes open for one. I get good signals now but I have a little trouble sometimes with my 2 VHF channels which are CBS and NBC. Otherwise it works pretty good. I also have a preamp on my antenna and I have it set on the lower setting and I could put it on the higher setting but I don't want to have too strong of signals for the strong channels that I receive. I see that the newer standard works much better than the older one so that is why I want it!
I have this antenna, a recommendation from antenna man, I get all channels possible to me 41. I'm very happy with it. Only thing I dont like is I cant pick up a single channel that is 75 miles away during the day.
I hope you have that coax from the antenna going thru a ground block so it's grounded to earth. Being that high up can be attracted to lighting. Wouldn't want that coming in and blowing the homerun boxes or even getting to your switch and take that out. Having a bonding on any aerial antenna very important
Here where I am in Canada I am lucky to get 4 OTA channels. With a larger anntenna it would probably a whopping 6 channels. I usually only use 1 of the channels for local news and that is it. Do not watch network programming.
I think it is better to keep the pole short so that the wind effect is very weak, but if you use a long pole, the slightest wind will take the pole off the roof. It is similar when you want to lift a stone with a long pole.
@@kensmith5694 Maybe.... Not always the case. Raising my antenna gets it smack in the thick part of the pine trees for my local stations. Capturing the signal at a lower level, in my case works much better. I also get a perfectly reliable signal from a station 70mi away with a 8 bay antenna at a 10ft ground elevation. (16 ft above sea level) Same logic. Won't work at higher elevations I've gone up 30ft) I enjoy an FM station from that same distant location. Almost impossible on a car radio. After trying a big FM antenna at 20 ft with nothing but a weak signal, I found a nice strong signal using an S shaped FM antenna mounted vertically 3 ft from the ground in a bush! Always a great signal right there, but no where else. FM uses both vertical and horizontal transmissions. I may be getting a bounced vertical signal from a distant object. All I know is that it works. If you have trees, I say forget all the old rules of "height is better" because it doesn't work in my area. Unless you want to go above the trees. Find the signal with a meter. The best location may surprise you.
@@RickPaquin My comment was specific to the person in the video. You can see that there are no tall trees in the situation but there are shorter ones and houses. For him higher is a good thing.
Hello fellow New Englander. I'm from Ct too. Originally. I like how you run all your TV channels over your network. I'd do that for recording and use an old PC as a DVR. I like that comet channel. Sometimes they play all of those wierd B movies and the X files.
I have been using the Telivis Data boss mix for about a year. It is an awesome antenna. I have mine on a tower up about 42 feet. I don't have any atsc 3 channels in my area but. I will be prepared when we get them. Our closest broadcaster is about 45 miles away. I am getting 36 channels now. Hopefully we will get some more soon. The only one I have trouble with is Fox and it is about 60 miles away but it comes in at night.
did you ground the antenna properly ? from the pic u can only see the coaxel u can ground the antenna metal and the coaxel tip , it will keep signal safe plus from lighting
I'm lucky I'm in a major market. Most of my transmitters are on a mountain about 6 miles LOS west of me. Unfortunately there are a few transmitters in almost the opposite direction and about 25 miles away. I just use a smaller roof(2 story) mast mounted antenna pointed to the distant transmitters to better able to pull them in. I've also connected the antenna feed to the coax(RG6) that used to carry my Xfinity video signal so all the bedrooms have access to the antenna signals. Bedroom TVs can view either OTA channels or using ROKUs view my Tablo Quad. I haven't branched out to ATSC 3.0 yet however all the majors have NextGen TV.
Of those 62 channels probably only about 12-16 are worth watching. I get 16 channels which is all that is available in my area on a $10 indoor antenna. Half are junk. But to be fair there are not many channels on cable worth much either.
@@johnlevison9552 Many are in a a language I don't know. Those that speak that language may find them worthwhile. "Vietsky" suggests the language of that one.
Thank you for your excellent video. I assume someone already mentioned that the indoor part shown is not an amplifier but rather a PSU or Power Supply Unit, also known as a power injector for the antenna's internal preamp.
Question for you: A few brief clips in the video show the TV screen with menus (in addition to the program your watching): are those menus generated by the HD Home Run box, the ATSC 3 broadcast, a ATSC 3 specific television, or ??? I've got a basic SMART TV that's 8 years old (?) but am not able to bring up any menus or programming guides like I see you have. I can walk through the apps (like pluto TV or Tubi TV) with the up/down/left/right arrows on the basic TV remote, but that's it. Maybe a secondary remote control is needed to access and manipulate those menu selections> Antenna location. You could also try putting the antenna in your attic. I did that and it worked great. Just make sure there's no metal in the way; no metal-foil roof insulation, no metal HVAC ductwork in the way, and my home's wood roof with asphalt shingles doesn't seem to degrade performance even when its raining. I'm in the Los Angeles area, all the stations broadcast from the same area (Mt. Wilson above Pasadena) and I've got a straight & clear 40-mile sight line to those antennas. 60+ channels.
That antenna almost looks like something used at a CATV head-end. I have an amplified leaf type antenna in my north-northwest 2nd floor window that I picked up years ago from Costco (I don't think they haven them anymore). This is the only one I've found of this type that really does anything. It was a total shock when I first put it up. I'm in northern Middlesex county in CT and I get 68 channels on my ATSC 1.0 set. My channel list is similar to yours, although I'm surprised to not see WHCT-LD 35 in your list as it's on the "fox 61" tower over on Rattlesnake mountain or WRNT-LD 32, which is on Deercliff road in Avon. I'll post my list with each station (by PSIP) and the number of sub-channels in the least obtrusive way (I hope): 03 WFSB (4), 08 WTNH (2), 19 WRDM (2), 20 WCCT (4), 22 WWLP (4), 24 WEDH (3), 26 WHPX (8), 27 WWAX (5), 30 WVIT (4), 32 WRNT (7), 35 WHCT (8), 40 WGGB (3), 57 WGBY (4), 59 WCTX (2), 61 WTIC (5), 65 WEDY (3). Of course some of these are guest stations on other hosts (which would make for a whole new post due to the way they put all the main stations on the WCCT ATSC 3.0 transmitter and took WCCT's ATSC 1.0 programming and spread it out on the sub channels of other transmitters. This list remains pretty consistent with a few exceptions: WGGB & WGBY tend to have summertime issues with WGGB being the worst since they moved to OTA 26, they used to be perfect years ago on the temporary OTA 55 & later OTA 40. WTNH also was spotty at times, but I think the transmitter was also moved to Rattlesnake now as well, and I rarely have problems with them now. With that change, most of these stations are in the right direction for my northern-ish window. I may attempt this with an outdoor antenna one day, but if I do, I want directional as I miss the number of channels I used to be able to get in the analog days (basically, all of CT, RI, Most of MA, southern parts of VT, NH, ME, Most of NYC, Albany, part of Philly, and many in between). I also miss the analog DX. On a good day, I used to be able to get stations in the mid-west. I have yet to do any since digital, I know it can be done, it just doesn't seem to work for my current setup.
Your setup mirrors mine, except my antennas are in the attic. Just FYI, the second RF feed from the power unit loses about 3 dBa, which roughly equals what you would get with a two way splitter. I have one going to my den TV, the other one going to my HDHomerunFlex 4K.
Is antenna TV in the US not as common as cable/satellite/subscription TV services? What you call antenna TV we would generally call free to air TV or broadcast TV here in Australia. Here, subscription TV services do exist, the biggest one is Foxtel, but I'd say most houses built over the past 5 or 6 decades have roof mounted antennas, of course not all do, but most do.
I live over 63 miles away from the tv transmitters. An installer issue I'm having is they want to install their own antenna. One of them even hung up on me when I mentioned the Televes Antenna. Have you experienced any ATSC 3.0 audio or encryption issues? What poles/mast are you using? Love your videos.
@@jmr Just last week The Antenna Man addressed a number of channels that are implementing DRM on their broadcasts, requiring tuners to be sent back to their makers for upgrading.
I think HDHomerun boxes will be able to support the encryption. It's funny how useless all of this DRM is, every TV show is pirated within minutes of it airing.
@@LonSeidmanThe HDHomeRun boxes are expected to support encryption… through SD’s own software. But an app like Channels DVR is probably out of luck… which defeats the entire purpose of buying an HDHR for many enthusiasts! (And you’re right at how pointless the encryption is, but I bet it all comes back to retransmission fees…)
@Kayleeだよぉ〜♡ well there would be one other method but it's complex to setup. In fact it's the slingbox. Slingboxes still work if you use a vpn server in your house such as pihole with pivpn. With that in mind the zapperbox is a tuner with hdmi support so you may be able to use that to watch outside house once it supports drm.
@@timcat1004 You can bypass the amp by just unplugging the power supply. Then it acts as a regular non-amped antenna. I have one on my tower at 65', and can pick up low power stations through the mountains SW of me 65 miles away. The thing is the best antenna out there unless you need low VHF, or your high VHF station is a long distance, since it only has one element and a reflector for Hi-VHF, which gives it about 3 db gain (plus the amp if plugged in). Hi-VHF works for me over flat terrain out to the East of me about 70 miles.
MAY 2023 I ve attempted silicon dust and zapper box I have the smaller televees antenna both zapperbox and silicon dust kept crashing zapperbox atsc 3.0 no dvr for another 6 months.. had to keep formatting my zapper box to keep in atsc 3.0 recent weeks my ota signals were breaking up alot had 80 ch s now 54 then back to 69.. channels 69 useless channels metv plus wzme tv 43 kept breaking up normally never dose every so ofter wwor would kick off 60 miles away shared wiuth RF 25 PBS 25 IS why still no antenna tv metv for nyc connecticut market,..ota still kept the antenna to watch some not on cable catchy tv network for one tried tablo tried tivo edge.... all failed .....such a weird market.. had the FCC never started sharing or selling channels to cell companies tv would be fine ...they must loose money by going free....cant say... now they want to encrypt ..... yeesh.. too stressfull expensive if he loves his wife lol dont rid of cable lol....your wife wont be happy..
I am surprised that it was hard for you to find someone to install an outdoor antenna. To be honest I am surprised that more people are not using outdoor antennas to watch television.
I live over 63 miles away from the tv transmitters. An installer issue I'm having is they want to install their own antenna. One of them even hung up on me when I mentioned the Televes Antenna.
@Mike Nexus Does this antenna installer guarantee a signal with their antenna? The ones I called also wanted to install their own channel master antenna as that's what they had good luck with.
VHF stations will follow the contour of mountains. I lived in a valley next to one with a 500ft elevation mountain blocking me from a station 30 mi away. The only way to receive reception was with the antenna right near the ground. VHF and FM signals WILL follow the contour of mountains, at ground level. For UHF stations though, you're basically out of luck. Maybe you have some VHF stations that can be received?
Love my antenna set up but I haven’t upgraded to a stand alone tuner like the Homerun for one MAJOR reason: service fees for the DVR. I can go to Walmart and buy a $35 tuner that lets me record to external hard drive for free why should I pay a monthly or annual fee to another service provider?
Yes, that is sort of why I have 2 of the tuners in one room. There were two shows that overlapped that came on very late. I would record both one night and then watch each in turn the next.
Hello Lon, I live in Norwich, CT. I have been using the Hd home run ATSC 1.0 tuner for over a year now. I have had hardware issues with the HDhome run, which HD Home run has replaced twice. I am on the fringe of Hartford and Providence. I recently upgraded to the televis antenna , with a positive result on signal reliable from Hartford Fox&NBC.WFSB CH3 is intermittent and unwatchable. I also receive NBC and ABC intermittently from Providence. I am hesitant about upgrading my HD Home run to ATSC 3.0 . To help me understand the possibility of receiving the 4 CT local affiliates, which from your video ,I take it are in the same tower location.I am wondering what area of CT are you located? You do not have to reveal the town you live in ,I'm only looking for a general location. Thanks Larry T.
Baltimore locked up almost all the primary and sub-channels of their broadcast antennas within the city limits (2, 11, 13, 24, 35 and 54). The HD HomeRun CONNECT 4K doesn’t (yet?) decode these channels. For the premium price of this box, it is very disappointing.
Lon' they need to figure out the perfect antenna for people in Apartments who cannot install outside antennas. I would guess that at least 75% of the residents in Florida are in apartments. Sure, we can stream but we all know how Piggish Comcast is with their internet prices and how much more they charge for Unlimited Data so streaming is not a very good option. I asked Tyler this about 3 times and never once has he replied.
Understand that my RUclips channel reaches 800,000 people. It's not possible for me to respond to or even see every single question a viewer asks. If you would like me to lookup your reception to recommend the best indoor antenna for your area, you can sign up to my antenna recommendation service below. You can also link to a general list of recommended antennas.on the same page. www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
Contact the FCC and ask them to assist with a faster ATSC 3.0 roll out. ATSC 3.0 will provide better reception for indoor antennas. Your not alone with this problem. Antennas placed in windows work well, vs. elsewhere in the room, depending on where the transmitter is.
I would first suggest a set of rabbit ears from a "dollar store" or "thrift store". The advantage they have is you can turn on the signal meter and fine tune the antenna for the station you want to watch.
I lost my internet the other day and I figured just watch tv over my antenna. My new smart Vizio tv won’t allow me to watch the antenna input without internet. It forces me to use Vizio Smart cast which needs internet to work. I’ve been reading that that are now pushing Next Gen tuners in TV’s that require internet to work.
I was under the impression that analog TV got shut down many many years ago so I'm surprised that antennas are able to pick up this many stations in 2022.
@@bland9876In short a digital signal is modulated and transmitted through an analog carrier signal, then demodulated by the digital tuner. The antenna just acts as the receiver for the analog signal. The hardware (antenna) doesn’t need to change unless your antenna targets lower channel frequencies which are not really suitable for digital signal transmission. All the antenna does is pickup and the signal and relay it to the tuner. Not dissimilar to how wifi and the dial-up computer modems work. I am surprised you missed all the PSAs on the digital conversion that happened way back when they talked about broadcast going to high def (720p/1080i)
Tyler the Antenna Man went into this on a RUclips video. The ATSC digital channels use a lot of the same frequencies that NTSC analog television used. I have an outdoor antenna from the 1980s that can pick up the ATSC digital channels.
FEB 2024 TELEVEES SMART COM 3 WAY ANTENNA SPLITTER REQUEST can you do a video on smart com 3 way antenna splitter antennaman never did can you please do a video on that before I decide to buy one need to see it work
With the HD Homerun box do you have to pay an extra amount for the guide? Tivo charges something like $400 for their systems. Thats just the guide charge.
Putting up a TV antenna reminds me of the Lucy Ball video that showed her and Ethel putting up a new antenna. Advance it to 12:40 and you'll see how she gets it tangled with the power lines. Good video on the challenges of installing an antenna. Go to 16:00 to see how antennas were adjusted in the old days! ruclips.net/video/6emiozyv_FE/видео.html
can we have an re scan updated live scan love to see if there still there... on the smaller version antenna I have recieve 86 to 92 channels atsc 3.0 nyc ct market ADTH 3.0 tuner verry sensitive...
I've been trying to setup an SDR and an app called Spektrum to use as a spectrum analyzer for adjusting an antenna. Is that something you could look into.
Great video, Thanks for updating and all the great info. Question if you don't mind. My local NBC channel has switched to nextgen tv. But does that mean my local towers have changed over as well? or does each tower need new equipment before the signal can transmit the next gen tv? thanks in advance
@@somemovingpictures I was president of an HOA for a while. I had to explain repeatedly to the other members of the board that the FCC sets the rules on such things and they say reasonable antennas are fine within the area you control. I finally got the board to "interpret" the CCR regulations in a manner that obeyed the FCC. We had to set out the safety and other topics that people needed to be careful of.
Can you provide instructions on how to get to the HDHomeRun Config GUI you showed at about 9 minutes? I have a HDHomeRun Flex 4k and I'd love to check some signal strength when I test out different antenna locations. But I can't seem to find that, or instructions to find it.
It’s part of the windows software package that you’ll get on their website - look for the software package that includes the firmware update - not the app version. The gui app will install with that.
Hello. I'm happy for you, but I feel bad, because you got that giant antenna, plus you have to paid your friend to help put it up there, for only 62 channels. What hope for me if I'm force to use only indoor antennas. Smh. Give me some suggestions on indoor antennas
Antennaman recommends the channelmaster flat antenna and also he like one rca indoor rabbitear type one.. but it depends how close you are the transmitters obviously.
FEB 2024 hi how can you get 62 channels ?.... my sister lives in oxford connecticut 42 miles away from wfsb 3 used my smal televees dat mix antennaman suggested only 5 weak channels...happen.. two tv fire tv insignia and samsung samsung no results insignia 5 weak new haven ch ?? no fox 61 wfsb 3 ??, my sister was forced to paramount plus why this was impossible for her not you we tried all directions even outside on deck away from mountain..
I’ve had good luck switching to Amazon fire sticks. The transcoding is done over the internet. The only Roku device we have is our TCL roku TV which has hardware transcoding. Yet for some reason the SAP audio plays at times and there’s no way to change it. IOS devices also seem to use some sort of web based transcoding. Last time I tried plex there wasn’t any support for ATSC 3.0. Not sure if that has changed. But it might be a good follow up video to go through all the different hardware choices and how they work with ATSC 3.0.
@@LonSeidman I think there are a few test streams that have happened, but yeah in general no 4K ATSC 3.0 yet, due to the stations who are broadcasting ATSC 3.0 having to keep their ATSC 1.0 signals on he air for at least 5 years before turning them off, which means they have limited bandwidth, and even more so after the VHF/UHF spectrum repack a while back. Also no ATSC 3.0 here yet down south in the CSRA(Central Savannah River Area) on the SC/GA border(Augusta, GA market), and no word yet when, so I'm for sure not rushing to get an ATSC 3.0 tuner.
@@CommodoreFan64 when NBC offers 4k broadcasts for special events such as the Olympics, Super Bowl, etc. Can these broadcasts be viewed in 4k with an antenna?
@@penultimatename6677 That a good question, as I'm honestly not sure, the test runs I know of where around Las Vegas during CES to show off the technology, and what's possible with ATSC 3.0
Hi Lon, traveling a similar path try to take advantage OTA. I’m located near New London and am experimenting w HDHOMERUN & Televes per Antennaman. Any other options for help w antenna installations here in CT?
Unfortunately I haven't found any.. Dish Network does do antenna installs but I think you have to use their antenna vs. bringing your own. You might want to see if a local satellite dish installer can help.
Be careful. Working with antennas, especially on roofs can be dangerous. Make sure you're well insured to cover damages if this contractor buddy falls off the ladder or roof into our yard and winds up in the hospital. I personally prefer to pay more for installers with their own insurance.
Can the channels your receiving with the home run boxes be watched anywhere on the internet. I used to have a couple Slingboxs and we know they disappointed all their uses by ending their servers.
I just experimented with doing it over a vpn connection back to my house using the Channels app. It works! The big rate is pretty low on hevc so it’s doable without transcoding.
@@LonSeidman Why do you need a VPN to do this? Do you have a personal VPN that routes through your home IP address to fool the app into thinking your home? I do a similar thing to watch all the channels I pay for with my providers app. Otherwise several channels are not available outside my home IP :) It's to bad the app by design would let you connect to your box similar to the way the slingbox app used to.
@@n1kkri yes that's what you need. I don't recommend opening up ports on routers any longer as these are not designed to sit on the public internet and dont' authenticate the user.
If you are asking if it can be hooked up to your former cable wiring in your home, it can be, and you own it. But if you are still using Cable internet, you'll have to run a separate line to your cable modem FIRST! Once you do that, then you can connect the antenna output to your existing cable wiring in your home. One other caution, some cable companies used to run 90v on their cable to power the old telephone modems. BUT, they sometimes forgot to turn off that 90V at the pole. Some people have found (as I did) 90V on the cable wiring coming into their home. Be careful when working with the cable coming into your home. If you're not sure about what you are doing, get a professional to help you.
My name is Wayne dietsch man I need some help to set up my hdhomerun I need advice how to use a computer or smartphone will you get back to me thank you
special weird request on nice weather day I would love to see this antenna reverssed direction I m curious as hell what would come in or not opossite direction
Is this a recent thing in USA? Isn't in Europe a common knowledge you can get free basic channels from terrestial antenas? I think even cable companies have to provide you free channels.
The cable TV companies and other forces of evil convinced most of the population that over the air was dead. There are many things that people here believe that simply are not true. That there is no over the air TV is just one drop in a vast ocean of such things.
Millions of Americans live in apartments. So your set up is impossible. Do you have any suggestions for those of us that are interested in ATSC 3.0 that live in apartments. I live in an apartment and my solution for over the air is. Subscribing to Paramount plus, Peacock, and Hulu. You get all the prime time programming on ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox the next day. And then have Sling for other channels. And I get it all for less than $50 a month. And I don’t have to worry about weather problems.
Look up the fcc rules on outdoor Antennas. Renters are allowed to install a tv atenna in areas they have control such as a balcony. Hopefully the area of control has good tv reception.
If they are in a more densely populated area there's a good chance that an indoor antenna will work. Every situation is different which is why I suggest people go to Antennaweb to see what their particular environment looks like.
@@LonSeidman you are correct about that. I do have an eight dollar rabbit ear antenna I bought at Best Buy. It works great. The only reason why I have it is to pick up non-big network channels like decades, Laff TV, Cozi. Channels like that. It does pick up all the big-name networks except for CBS.
ATSC 3.0 is capable of 4K, however it’s not currently feasible in the US because there are few ATSC 3.0 frequencies and 3-4 1080i virtual channels per physical channel. It won’t be feasible until stations who have flipped to ATSC 3.0 don’t have to maintain ATSC 1.0 virtual channels.
Thanks for the mention!
Thank you for helping me out as well. I’m about 5 miles north of Lon as the crow flies. My almost identical setup has been rock solid for over a year. If it weren’t for ATSC 3.0 I wouldn’t have a chance of getting WTNH.
As an ex-TV repair man (person) from the 60's, tube type TV's, my most frequent outside job was replacing roof antennas. Main issue was that after a few years the 3 bolts holding them into the roof would cause leaks, even with the blob of roofing tar/cement on them. The best option was what I used on my previous homes. Steel conduit (thick 2.5") special order 20' and a 5 gallon bucket (sunk into the ground) with hole in it for the conduit to go through. Pounded the conduit into the ground a few feet, slid the bucket down the conduit into the hole, filled the bucket with cement, covered it with dirt to hide it, mounted the conduit to roof fascia (into a rafter) and pounded in a 10' ground rod which I connected to it. It withstood 65+ mph wind during many storms. So, what to do now here in Florida, with all the lightning that happens? I had a highly rated smaller antenna with a rotator on it which was a dud. After researching antennas, I found one and the Antenna Guy has high ratings on it, the ATSC 3 transmitting antenna is about 35 miles away, but before I buy it I need to research some information that I saw regarding the OTA TV companies eventually stopping their "FREE" ATSC-3 transmission to all but one channel each and going to a subscription base service. I guess the government in one of their rulings allowed for this. Need to look deeper into this, before purchasing an expensive antenna. Currently using RUclips TV as our choice and they just raised their rates. Uhhhh soon they will be charging as much as the cable companies do
This is fantastic timing! Just tonight I talked my stepfather into getting the HD Homerun Flex 4k, after two of his subscription services bumped up their monthly prices on him. I'm recommending he get the exact same Televes Dat Boss antenna in time, but for now we're going to start with a small indoor antenna that we've tested and found to be adequate for the moment.
Tyler The Antenna Man really knows his stuff, and I'm so glad I found him, and you, to get advice from.
Nice. I grabbed the Silicondust 4k ATSC 3.0 tuner ~18 months ago. Boston area channels, which I am in range of in NH, didn't have ATSC 3.0 feeds until very recently but they are live now. I've really enjoyed the OTA TV and not paying Comcast exorbitant fees for TV I rarely watch.
Tried many, Danny Hodges antenna gets at least all these channels. Over 60 honest miles away. Telescoping pole, don't even need a rotator although I added one anyway. Super happy with the result. Danny is da man!
Back in the early ATSC 1.0 days I placed a serious winegard antenna on my chimney. What they don't tell you is that the antenna may loosen some of the motar over time. I decided to move my antenna into my attic. I lost a dew decibels of signal but since I've never been that far from the TV antennas serving Boston (im by Worcester), it still worked out very well. I did however need to add an amplifier.
This prompted me to check the status of the atsc3 rollout in my state. Lo and behold, the main stations near me have all gone live with it. So now I need to update my HD Homerun tuner box…
In line with the "put the tuner near the coax entry, since it's networkable", the HDHomeRun ATSC3 power inlet is a 12V 3.5x1.35 DC barrel. I got a PoE splitter from PoE Texas (which has a 5.5x2.1 DC barrel output) and a cheap barrel adapter from Amazon and now Ethernet and power for my FLEX ATSC3 unit is provided from my switch. Which is handy, since there is no AC outlet near where the antenna lead is...
Awesome idea!
How many TV's off the one antenna?
We cut the cord years ago and have never looked back. Saved hundreds of dollars a year. We live outside of town and receive 50 channels without any signal problems.
I'm in central long island and pick up the CT and NYC markets. The ATSC 3.0 is great way more stable picture and quality is great i hope they dont encrypt the channels like they do in other markets.
Watching this helps me realize: I'm so lucky where I'm at in Portland that I have a super cheap antenna that I _could_ just lay it on the floor and _still_ have really high quality signal. I've also got fiber and have been using YTTV for a while but, considering recent price hikes, has me *strongly* considering alternatives considering how little I even use YTTV these days! (and I don't watch sports on TV)
Enjoyed your video! I just duck taped a Mohu Premium Pro indoor antenna on a window and all my channels came in crystal clear. I have heard outdoor antenna`s have problems in the wind and rain. Just have to figure out the best DVR so I can watch on my own schedule and skip thru the commercials. Glad I stumbled upon your channel!
I have a 100 mile outside antenna that I put up at 25ft. It works pretty good and I have guy wires of 18 gauge steel that are designed for high winds since here in Florida we get Hurricanes! I would like to add an ATSC 3.0 tuner to my TV since it doesn't have the newer tuner. I have been waiting for someone to come out with a lower priced tuner since I don't want to pay $200 for one. I was hoping this spring they would be on the market so I'm keeping my eyes open for one. I get good signals now but I have a little trouble sometimes with my 2 VHF channels which are CBS and NBC. Otherwise it works pretty good. I also have a preamp on my antenna and I have it set on the lower setting and I could put it on the higher setting but I don't want to have too strong of signals for the strong channels that I receive. I see that the newer standard works much better than the older one so that is why I want it!
I have this antenna, a recommendation from antenna man, I get all channels possible to me 41. I'm very happy with it. Only thing I dont like is I cant pick up a single channel that is 75 miles away during the day.
Hey buddy I get over 80 channels with a RCA indoor antenna. A lot of the channels I don't watch but I get them. I live in New York City.
Yeah if you're in a denser location closer to transmission towers you'll do better than me out in the sticks.
@@LonSeidman ha ha ha ha
Let's go, it still baffles me how most people these days don't know about OTA TV. Cable/Satellite really blinded a whole generation or 2.
Yes, even technically knowledgeable people often don't know.
This is the best antenna picks up UHF channels you can get witm amplifier of course i got the same !
I hope you have that coax from the antenna going thru a ground block so it's grounded to earth. Being that high up can be attracted to lighting. Wouldn't want that coming in and blowing the homerun boxes or even getting to your switch and take that out. Having a bonding on any aerial antenna very important
Some people have an iron wire down from the antenna to a ground post. This path takes most of the energy of a strike.
Here where I am in Canada I am lucky to get 4 OTA channels. With a larger anntenna it would probably a whopping 6 channels. I usually only use 1 of the channels for local news and that is it. Do not watch network programming.
I think it is better to keep the pole short so that the wind effect is very weak, but if you use a long pole, the slightest wind will take the pole off the roof. It is similar when you want to lift a stone with a long pole.
He wants the antenna to be high because the higher it is the greater the range.
@@kensmith5694 Maybe.... Not always the case. Raising my antenna gets it smack in the thick part of the pine trees for my local stations. Capturing the signal at a lower level, in my case works much better. I also get a perfectly reliable signal from a station 70mi away with a 8 bay antenna at a 10ft ground elevation. (16 ft above sea level) Same logic. Won't work at higher elevations I've gone up 30ft)
I enjoy an FM station from that same distant location. Almost impossible on a car radio. After trying a big FM antenna at 20 ft with nothing but a weak signal, I found a nice strong signal using an S shaped FM antenna mounted vertically 3 ft from the ground in a bush! Always a great signal right there, but no where else.
FM uses both vertical and horizontal transmissions. I may be getting a bounced vertical signal from a distant object. All I know is that it works.
If you have trees, I say forget all the old rules of "height is better" because it doesn't work in my area. Unless you want to go above the trees. Find the signal with a meter. The best location may surprise you.
@@RickPaquin My comment was specific to the person in the video. You can see that there are no tall trees in the situation but there are shorter ones and houses. For him higher is a good thing.
Hello fellow New Englander. I'm from Ct too. Originally. I like how you run all your TV channels over your network. I'd do that for recording and use an old PC as a DVR. I like that comet channel. Sometimes they play all of those wierd B movies and the X files.
Glad it's still working! Hopefully we won't need to climb up there any time soon.
I hope so too! So far so good!
I have been using the Telivis Data boss mix for about a year. It is an awesome antenna. I have mine on a tower up about 42 feet. I don't have any atsc 3 channels in my area but. I will be prepared when we get them. Our closest broadcaster is about 45 miles away. I am getting 36 channels now. Hopefully we will get some more soon. The only one I have trouble with is Fox and it is about 60 miles away but it comes in at night.
Try with good cable connected to this antenna !
04/16/23. I just installed this exact antenna here in Six Lakes Michigan and I got 73 channels.
that feeling when you're so rural you'd need an ariel beam just to get one PBS station according to the site lon is directing people to.
did you ground the antenna properly ?
from the pic u can only see the coaxel
u can ground the antenna metal and the coaxel tip , it will keep signal safe plus from lighting
I'm lucky I'm in a major market. Most of my transmitters are on a mountain about 6 miles LOS west of me. Unfortunately there are a few transmitters in almost the opposite direction and about 25 miles away. I just use a smaller roof(2 story) mast mounted antenna pointed to the distant transmitters to better able to pull them in. I've also connected the antenna feed to the coax(RG6) that used to carry my Xfinity video signal so all the bedrooms have access to the antenna signals. Bedroom TVs can view either OTA channels or using ROKUs view my Tablo Quad.
I haven't branched out to ATSC 3.0 yet however all the majors have NextGen TV.
I get around the same amount of OTA channels with my puny indoor antenna. Looking forward to a roof antenna soon.
Of those 62 channels probably only about 12-16 are worth watching. I get 16 channels which is all that is available in my area on a $10 indoor antenna. Half are junk. But to be fair there are not many channels on cable worth much either.
Yeah, a big chunk of the ones I can pick up are themed music channels and QVC.
You are optimistic about the fraction that are worth watching. I get 124 channels. Of them maybe 7 or 8 are worth watching.
@@kensmith5694 exactly,how many QVC and HSN stations can you watch or need.What a waste of bandwidth.
@@johnlevison9552 Many are in a a language I don't know. Those that speak that language may find them worthwhile. "Vietsky" suggests the language of that one.
Thank you for your excellent video. I assume someone already mentioned that the indoor part shown is not an amplifier but rather a PSU or Power Supply Unit, also known as a power injector for the antenna's internal preamp.
The recommended pole diameter for that antenna is 1.25 in OD. It is always recommended to use guy wires if your mast is at or over 10-feet high.
Question for you: A few brief clips in the video show the TV screen with menus (in addition to the program your watching): are those menus generated by the HD Home Run box, the ATSC 3 broadcast, a ATSC 3 specific television, or ??? I've got a basic SMART TV that's 8 years old (?) but am not able to bring up any menus or programming guides like I see you have. I can walk through the apps (like pluto TV or Tubi TV) with the up/down/left/right arrows on the basic TV remote, but that's it. Maybe a secondary remote control is needed to access and manipulate those menu selections>
Antenna location. You could also try putting the antenna in your attic. I did that and it worked great. Just make sure there's no metal in the way; no metal-foil roof insulation, no metal HVAC ductwork in the way, and my home's wood roof with asphalt shingles doesn't seem to degrade performance even when its raining. I'm in the Los Angeles area, all the stations broadcast from the same area (Mt. Wilson above Pasadena) and I've got a straight & clear 40-mile sight line to those antennas. 60+ channels.
That antenna almost looks like something used at a CATV head-end. I have an amplified leaf type antenna in my north-northwest 2nd floor window that I picked up years ago from Costco (I don't think they haven them anymore). This is the only one I've found of this type that really does anything. It was a total shock when I first put it up. I'm in northern Middlesex county in CT and I get 68 channels on my ATSC 1.0 set. My channel list is similar to yours, although I'm surprised to not see WHCT-LD 35 in your list as it's on the "fox 61" tower over on Rattlesnake mountain or WRNT-LD 32, which is on Deercliff road in Avon. I'll post my list with each station (by PSIP) and the number of sub-channels in the least obtrusive way (I hope): 03 WFSB (4), 08 WTNH (2), 19 WRDM (2), 20 WCCT (4), 22 WWLP (4), 24 WEDH (3), 26 WHPX (8), 27 WWAX (5), 30 WVIT (4), 32 WRNT (7), 35 WHCT (8), 40 WGGB (3), 57 WGBY (4), 59 WCTX (2), 61 WTIC (5), 65 WEDY (3). Of course some of these are guest stations on other hosts (which would make for a whole new post due to the way they put all the main stations on the WCCT ATSC 3.0 transmitter and took WCCT's ATSC 1.0 programming and spread it out on the sub channels of other transmitters.
This list remains pretty consistent with a few exceptions: WGGB & WGBY tend to have summertime issues with WGGB being the worst since they moved to OTA 26, they used to be perfect years ago on the temporary OTA 55 & later OTA 40. WTNH also was spotty at times, but I think the transmitter was also moved to Rattlesnake now as well, and I rarely have problems with them now. With that change, most of these stations are in the right direction for my northern-ish window. I may attempt this with an outdoor antenna one day, but if I do, I want directional as I miss the number of channels I used to be able to get in the analog days (basically, all of CT, RI, Most of MA, southern parts of VT, NH, ME, Most of NYC, Albany, part of Philly, and many in between). I also miss the analog DX. On a good day, I used to be able to get stations in the mid-west. I have yet to do any since digital, I know it can be done, it just doesn't seem to work for my current setup.
Your setup mirrors mine, except my antennas are in the attic. Just FYI, the second RF feed from the power unit loses about 3 dBa, which roughly equals what you would get with a two way splitter. I have one going to my den TV, the other one going to my HDHomerunFlex 4K.
Is antenna TV in the US not as common as cable/satellite/subscription TV services? What you call antenna TV we would generally call free to air TV or broadcast TV here in Australia. Here, subscription TV services do exist, the biggest one is Foxtel, but I'd say most houses built over the past 5 or 6 decades have roof mounted antennas, of course not all do, but most do.
I live over 63 miles away from the tv transmitters. An installer issue I'm having is they want to install their own antenna. One of them even hung up on me when I mentioned the Televes Antenna. Have you experienced any ATSC 3.0 audio or encryption issues? What poles/mast are you using? Love your videos.
I don't believe any station has implemented DRM yet. There aren't any tuners that support DRM yet.
@@jmr According to Rabbit Ears, WESH(NBC) & WKCF(CW) ATSC 3.0 out of Orlando has. I don't have an antenna yet to verify.
@@MikeySoft Since I wrote that I found out New Orleans does too. There are claims some in built TV tuners support it.
@@jmr Just last week The Antenna Man addressed a number of channels that are implementing DRM on their broadcasts, requiring tuners to be sent back to their makers for upgrading.
@@foxpopuli6982 I remember Zapbox being mentioned but I don't remember him saying any channels had already implemented DRM.
I have an antenna also and it’s great. My only recent concern, according to the Antenna man, is that these channels are starting to be encrypted!
I think HDHomerun boxes will be able to support the encryption. It's funny how useless all of this DRM is, every TV show is pirated within minutes of it airing.
@@LonSeidmanThe HDHomeRun boxes are expected to support encryption… through SD’s own software. But an app like Channels DVR is probably out of luck… which defeats the entire purpose of buying an HDHR for many enthusiasts! (And you’re right at how pointless the encryption is, but I bet it all comes back to retransmission fees…)
@Kayleeだよぉ〜♡ well there would be one other method but it's complex to setup. In fact it's the slingbox. Slingboxes still work if you use a vpn server in your house such as pihole with pivpn. With that in mind the zapperbox is a tuner with hdmi support so you may be able to use that to watch outside house once it supports drm.
Try bypassing the amp and see what your signal quality is. The amp might be over driving the signals.
Tried that initially when we had it on the tripod - the amplifier is needed for the best results here.
@@LonSeidman Did you try a different amp. That thing looks cheesy. I spent 41 years in Cable TV, trust me.
@@timcat1004 That is just the power supply. The amp is built into the driven element on the antenna itself.
@@DaveNLR2 There you have it. I would never tinker with a built in antenna amp
@@timcat1004 You can bypass the amp by just unplugging the power supply. Then it acts as a regular non-amped antenna. I have one on my tower at 65', and can pick up low power stations through the mountains SW of me 65 miles away. The thing is the best antenna out there unless you need low VHF, or your high VHF station is a long distance, since it only has one element and a reflector for Hi-VHF, which gives it about 3 db gain (plus the amp if plugged in). Hi-VHF works for me over flat terrain out to the East of me about 70 miles.
MAY 2023
I ve attempted silicon dust and zapper box I have the smaller televees antenna
both zapperbox and silicon dust kept crashing zapperbox atsc 3.0 no dvr for another 6 months.. had to keep formatting my zapper box to keep in atsc 3.0
recent weeks my ota signals were breaking up alot had 80 ch s now 54 then back to 69.. channels 69 useless channels metv plus wzme tv 43 kept breaking up normally never dose every so ofter wwor would kick off 60 miles away shared wiuth RF 25 PBS 25
IS why still no antenna tv metv for nyc connecticut market,..ota
still kept the antenna to watch some not on cable catchy tv network for one
tried tablo tried tivo edge.... all failed .....such a weird market..
had the FCC never started sharing or selling channels to cell companies tv would be fine ...they must loose money by going free....cant say...
now they want to encrypt ..... yeesh.. too stressfull expensive if he loves his wife lol dont rid of cable lol....your wife wont be happy..
I am surprised that it was hard for you to find someone to install an outdoor antenna. To be honest I am surprised that more people are not using outdoor antennas to watch television.
This is how the cable companies make so much money ripping people off. The tyranny of the default!
The younger you are, the less likely you are to know that broadcast TV even exists. Really.
I live over 63 miles away from the tv transmitters. An installer issue I'm having is they want to install their own antenna. One of them even hung up on me when I mentioned the Televes Antenna.
@Mike Nexus Does this antenna installer guarantee a signal with their antenna? The ones I called also wanted to install their own channel master antenna as that's what they had good luck with.
@@CantankerousDave Yes,that is completely true.Good for the cable companies,however.
I live in az. Between PHX. An Tucson mountains both ways about 40 to 50 miles .
VHF stations will follow the contour of mountains. I lived in a valley next to one with a 500ft elevation mountain blocking me from a station 30 mi away. The only way to receive reception was with the antenna right near the ground. VHF and FM signals WILL follow the contour of mountains, at ground level. For UHF stations though, you're basically out of luck. Maybe you have some VHF stations that can be received?
this is interesting but not alot of the main channels in nyc doing ATSC 3.0 yet
Love my antenna set up but I haven’t upgraded to a stand alone tuner like the Homerun for one MAJOR reason: service fees for the DVR. I can go to Walmart and buy a $35 tuner that lets me record to external hard drive for free why should I pay a monthly or annual fee to another service provider?
Yes, that is sort of why I have 2 of the tuners in one room. There were two shows that overlapped that came on very late. I would record both one night and then watch each in turn the next.
Hello Lon, I live in Norwich, CT. I have been using the Hd home run ATSC 1.0 tuner for over a year now. I have had hardware issues with the HDhome run, which HD Home run has replaced twice. I am on the fringe of Hartford and Providence. I recently upgraded to the televis antenna , with a positive result on signal reliable from Hartford Fox&NBC.WFSB CH3 is intermittent and unwatchable. I also receive NBC and ABC intermittently from Providence. I am hesitant about upgrading my HD Home run to ATSC 3.0 . To help me understand the possibility of receiving the 4 CT local affiliates, which from your video ,I take it are in the same tower location.I am wondering what area of CT are you located? You do not have to reveal the town you live in ,I'm only looking for a general location. Thanks Larry T.
it s not your antenba set up sent my sillicon dust tuner back zapperbox no better
now its encrypted tv yeesh
Nice
Baltimore locked up almost all the primary and sub-channels of their broadcast antennas within the city limits (2, 11, 13, 24, 35 and 54). The HD HomeRun CONNECT 4K doesn’t (yet?) decode these channels. For the premium price of this box, it is very disappointing.
WPXQ seems to come in off-axis for many of us. I don't turn the antenna to get it, as the Boston mirror seems to bring the same assortment.
Lon' they need to figure out the perfect antenna for people in Apartments who cannot install outside antennas. I would guess that at least 75% of the residents in Florida are in apartments. Sure, we can stream but we all know how Piggish Comcast is with their internet prices and how much more they charge for Unlimited Data so streaming is not a very good option. I asked Tyler this about 3 times and never once has he replied.
Understand that my RUclips channel reaches 800,000 people. It's not possible for me to respond to or even see every single question a viewer asks. If you would like me to lookup your reception to recommend the best indoor antenna for your area, you can sign up to my antenna recommendation service below. You can also link to a general list of recommended antennas.on the same page. www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html
Tyler is helpful.Not sure,why he never answer you.I got a economy plan from Comcast.No smart tv.However,sometimes stream on my tablet.
If your outdoor antenna can face the transmitters, try a Televes Dinova Mix or a Televes Evoca installed against a wall or on a balcony.
Contact the FCC and ask them to assist with a faster ATSC 3.0 roll out. ATSC 3.0 will provide better reception for indoor antennas. Your not alone with this problem. Antennas placed in windows work well, vs. elsewhere in the room, depending on where the transmitter is.
I would first suggest a set of rabbit ears from a "dollar store" or "thrift store". The advantage they have is you can turn on the signal meter and fine tune the antenna for the station you want to watch.
2023 DEC
HEADS UP SAW ON WPIX NYC REWING TV AND WPIX 11 BOTH MOVING TO ATSC 3.0
NO UPDATE ON ANTENNA TV METV
I have 6 towers clustered 4 & 5 miles away. I get lots of channels with a $12 Philips rabbit ears indoor antenna.
I lost my internet the other day and I figured just watch tv over my antenna. My new smart Vizio tv won’t allow me to watch the antenna input without internet. It forces me to use Vizio Smart cast which needs internet to work. I’ve been reading that that are now pushing Next Gen tuners in TV’s that require internet to work.
Watch my latest video :)
Televes antennas with BOSS Tech is great antennas.
My tv aerials are in the loft no problems here
I was under the impression that analog TV got shut down many many years ago so I'm surprised that antennas are able to pick up this many stations in 2022.
The channels are still there, they just carry mpeg streams instead of analog video.
Correct analog tv got shut down. These are all digital broadcasts.
@@RoastBeefSandwich If their digital broadcast how are they being picked up by the antenna?
@@bland9876In short a digital signal is modulated and transmitted through an analog carrier signal, then demodulated by the digital tuner. The antenna just acts as the receiver for the analog signal. The hardware (antenna) doesn’t need to change unless your antenna targets lower channel frequencies which are not really suitable for digital signal transmission. All the antenna does is pickup and the signal and relay it to the tuner.
Not dissimilar to how wifi and the dial-up computer modems work.
I am surprised you missed all the PSAs on the digital conversion that happened way back when they talked about broadcast going to high def (720p/1080i)
Tyler the Antenna Man went into this on a RUclips video. The ATSC digital channels use a lot of the same frequencies that NTSC analog television used. I have an outdoor antenna from the 1980s that can pick up the ATSC digital channels.
FEB 2024
TELEVEES SMART COM 3 WAY ANTENNA SPLITTER REQUEST
can you do a video on smart com 3 way
antenna splitter antennaman never did
can you please do a video on that before I decide to buy one need to see it work
ThanksMuch!
Do you get all available channels in your area Lon ??
Welcome to the club bub!
Looks like I can only get five ATSC 3.0 channels. Looks like it's not worth upgrading the antenna yet nor buying a 3.0 tuner
With the HD Homerun box do you have to pay an extra amount for the guide? Tivo charges something like $400 for their systems. Thats just the guide charge.
They have a short-length guide that's free if you use their DVR service is $35 a year.
Thanks for replying.
Would be nice if the links you mention in the video were in the description.
Putting up a TV antenna reminds me of the Lucy Ball video that showed her and Ethel putting up a new antenna. Advance it to 12:40 and you'll see how she gets it tangled with the power lines. Good video on the challenges of installing an antenna. Go to 16:00 to see how antennas were adjusted in the old days! ruclips.net/video/6emiozyv_FE/видео.html
can we have an re scan updated live scan
love to see if there still there...
on the smaller version antenna I have recieve 86 to 92 channels atsc 3.0 nyc ct market
ADTH 3.0 tuner verry sensitive...
TV reception, ham radio? You seriously need a 40' Rohn tower. You wont regret it.
I am getting to that point :)
Last I checked, DISHtv will come out and install an OTA antenna for $150
I had them come out once but they require you use their supplied antenna which was not enough for my location.
Hey Lon. I’m curious what you ended up using for a mast?
I've been trying to setup an SDR and an app called Spektrum to use as a spectrum analyzer for adjusting an antenna. Is that something you could look into.
Great video, Thanks for updating and all the great info. Question if you don't mind. My local NBC channel has switched to nextgen tv. But does that mean my local towers have changed over as well? or does each tower need new equipment before the signal can transmit the next gen tv? thanks in advance
They have to keep the old standard going for now alongside the new one.
After the old right things.
Unfortunately, a lot of HOA's look down on and even prohibit the use of outdoor antennas.
That is against federal law for them to do so.
It all depends on the antenna's size.
@@LonSeidman I had no idea there was such a law. I'll look at that. Unfortunately, the "look down on" part still holds.
@@somemovingpictures I was president of an HOA for a while. I had to explain repeatedly to the other members of the board that the FCC sets the rules on such things and they say reasonable antennas are fine within the area you control. I finally got the board to "interpret" the CCR regulations in a manner that obeyed the FCC. We had to set out the safety and other topics that people needed to be careful of.
It’s called OTARD-“Over the air reception device”. You cannot be denied the right to receive free OTA broadcast signals, look it up.
Can you provide instructions on how to get to the HDHomeRun Config GUI you showed at about 9 minutes? I have a HDHomeRun Flex 4k and I'd love to check some signal strength when I test out different antenna locations. But I can't seem to find that, or instructions to find it.
It’s part of the windows software package that you’ll get on their website - look for the software package that includes the firmware update - not the app version. The gui app will install with that.
What about a retractable pole where you can move it down when it’s really windy…sure something like that is out there somewhere
I did that , used 1 1/4 conduit 20 ft and put 20ft of 1 conduit inside and that lets me go from 20 ft to 29 ft
Let us know if your networks apply DRM to their signals
Yes here near Miami they have DRM on all HVEC channels.
@@artdoyle9599 what do you use for playback?
So far no but I am pretty sure the HDhomerun tuners should work with it.
@@LonSeidman it might need new hardware
Now how do you do this in Australia with a foxtel satellite dish (and wall plugs)
I’m in the valley near Hartford never can get channel 8 maybe that’ll change
If you point it at the new ATSC 3 transmitter you'll get it now!
Hello. I'm happy for you, but I feel bad, because you got that giant antenna, plus you have to paid your friend to help put it up there, for only 62 channels. What hope for me if I'm force to use only indoor antennas. Smh. Give me some suggestions on indoor antennas
Antennaman recommends the channelmaster flat antenna and also he like one rca indoor rabbitear type one.. but it depends how close you are the transmitters obviously.
FEB 2024
hi how can you get 62 channels ?....
my sister lives in oxford connecticut
42 miles away from wfsb 3 used my smal
televees dat mix antennaman suggested
only 5 weak channels...happen..
two tv fire tv insignia and samsung
samsung no results
insignia 5 weak new haven ch ??
no fox 61 wfsb 3 ??,
my sister was forced to paramount plus
why this was impossible for her
not you we tried all directions
even outside on deck away from mountain..
This is the combined ATSC 3.0 and ATSC 1.0 channels. I'm also close to the transmitter in New London that has a bunch too.
ok
Any update on transcoding the audio from the ATSC 3.0 broadcasts?
I’ve had good luck switching to Amazon fire sticks. The transcoding is done over the internet. The only Roku device we have is our TCL roku TV which has hardware transcoding. Yet for some reason the SAP audio plays at times and there’s no way to change it. IOS devices also seem to use some sort of web based transcoding. Last time I tried plex there wasn’t any support for ATSC 3.0. Not sure if that has changed. But it might be a good follow up video to go through all the different hardware choices and how they work with ATSC 3.0.
So far I have not seen any changes since my last video - I think it'll be a stop gap for awhile on devices that don't support AC4.
@@LonSeidman I think the Internet audio transcoding is what is responsible for the ATSC3 delay.
@@DarylO I thought so too but when I pulled up the streams in VLC there was a 10-15 second difference between them.
Any 4k content seen yet?
Not yet I don't think anyone is broadcasting at that resolution.
@@LonSeidman I think there are a few test streams that have happened, but yeah in general no 4K ATSC 3.0 yet, due to the stations who are broadcasting ATSC 3.0 having to keep their ATSC 1.0 signals on he air for at least 5 years before turning them off, which means they have limited bandwidth, and even more so after the VHF/UHF spectrum repack a while back. Also no ATSC 3.0 here yet down south in the CSRA(Central Savannah River Area) on the SC/GA border(Augusta, GA market), and no word yet when, so I'm for sure not rushing to get an ATSC 3.0 tuner.
@@CommodoreFan64 when NBC offers 4k broadcasts for special events such as the Olympics, Super Bowl, etc. Can these broadcasts be viewed in 4k with an antenna?
@@penultimatename6677 That a good question, as I'm honestly not sure, the test runs I know of where around Las Vegas during CES to show off the technology, and what's possible with ATSC 3.0
@@penultimatename6677An antenna is an antenna, it picks up signals, whether it’s 4K or otherwise.
So will this one hdhomerun flex work on 4 tvs?
Hi Lon, traveling a similar path try to take advantage OTA. I’m located near New London and am experimenting w HDHOMERUN & Televes per Antennaman. Any other options for help w antenna installations here in CT?
Unfortunately I haven't found any.. Dish Network does do antenna installs but I think you have to use their antenna vs. bringing your own. You might want to see if a local satellite dish installer can help.
@@LonSeidman Thanks much!
Nice video! Why do you have two HD Homerun tuners?
Why not?
His first one did not support ATSC 3.0.
Has Plex fixed the no audio problem with ATSC 3?
Not yet - the bounty for the Dolby Digital AC4 in FFMPEG hasn't been claimed yet.
Step 1.. Find a high school contractor buddy who can help you install the antenna
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Be careful. Working with antennas, especially on roofs can be dangerous. Make sure you're well insured to cover damages if this contractor buddy falls off the ladder or roof into our yard and winds up in the hospital. I personally prefer to pay more for installers with their own insurance.
Still no WTNH (ABC Connecticut)?
I’ll need another antenna pointed west but I am getting their atsc 3 signal.
wait until DRM takes hold....
Can the channels your receiving with the home run boxes be watched anywhere on the internet. I used to have a couple Slingboxs and we know they disappointed all their uses
by ending their servers.
I just experimented with doing it over a vpn connection back to my house using the Channels app. It works! The big rate is pretty low on hevc so it’s doable without transcoding.
@@LonSeidman Why do you need a VPN to do this? Do you have a personal VPN that routes through your home IP address to fool the app into thinking your home?
I do a similar thing to watch all the channels I pay for with my providers app. Otherwise several channels are not available outside my home IP :)
It's to bad the app by design would let you connect to your box similar to the way the slingbox app used to.
@@n1kkri yes that's what you need. I don't recommend opening up ports on routers any longer as these are not designed to sit on the public internet and dont' authenticate the user.
An what kind of antana is good
How much is all that home run stuff?
Ok, how do you hook it up so it connects to the cable?
If you are asking if it can be hooked up to your former cable wiring in your home, it can be, and you own it. But if you are still using Cable internet, you'll have to run a separate line to your cable modem FIRST! Once you do that, then you can connect the antenna output to your existing cable wiring in your home.
One other caution, some cable companies used to run 90v on their cable to power the old telephone modems. BUT, they sometimes forgot to turn off that 90V at the pole. Some people have found (as I did) 90V on the cable wiring coming into their home. Be careful when working with the cable coming into your home.
If you're not sure about what you are doing, get a professional to help you.
My name is Wayne dietsch man I need some help to set up my hdhomerun I need advice how to use a computer or smartphone will you get back to me thank you
If you go on RUclips and search for "hdhomerun tuner setup" you'll see lots of how-to videos.
what does ATSC MEAN ??
" Advanced Television Systems Committee"
no 2024 update ???
special weird request on nice weather day
I would love to see this antenna reverssed
direction I m curious as hell what would come in or not opossite direction
Why not hire the AntennaMan to mount the whole thing?
Is this a recent thing in USA? Isn't in Europe a common knowledge you can get free basic channels from terrestial antenas? I think even cable companies have to provide you free channels.
The cable TV companies and other forces of evil convinced most of the population that over the air was dead. There are many things that people here believe that simply are not true. That there is no over the air TV is just one drop in a vast ocean of such things.
Millions of Americans live in apartments. So your set up is impossible. Do you have any suggestions for those of us that are interested in ATSC 3.0 that live in apartments.
I live in an apartment and my solution for over the air is. Subscribing to Paramount plus, Peacock, and Hulu. You get all the prime time programming on ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox the next day. And then have Sling for other channels. And I get it all for less than $50 a month. And I don’t have to worry about weather problems.
Look up the fcc rules on outdoor Antennas. Renters are allowed to install a tv atenna in areas they have control such as a balcony. Hopefully the area of control has good tv reception.
If they are in a more densely populated area there's a good chance that an indoor antenna will work. Every situation is different which is why I suggest people go to Antennaweb to see what their particular environment looks like.
@@LonSeidman you are correct about that. I do have an eight dollar rabbit ear antenna I bought at Best Buy. It works great. The only reason why I have it is to pick up non-big network channels like decades, Laff TV, Cozi. Channels like that. It does pick up all the big-name networks except for CBS.
Are you picking up any of the 4K channels?
There are no 4k Channels OTA
@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES ATSC 3.0 is designed for 4k broadcasts.
ATSC 3.0 is capable of 4K, however it’s not currently feasible in the US because there are few ATSC 3.0 frequencies and 3-4 1080i virtual channels per physical channel. It won’t be feasible until stations who have flipped to ATSC 3.0 don’t have to maintain ATSC 1.0 virtual channels.
Is it not normal to have over the air tv in the US? / not wide spread? oof really is ran by money cow cable companies
you dont mention it but I betchya like me you
loose 62 channels to 50 or 47
I would have installed that thing in the attic so its hidden.