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You hit it on the nutshell and the N7 helmet piece is from the helmet Shepherd wears in ME3 I think the explosion could have sent femshep there to the planet because in the last part when she’s shooting the device it explode outward not downward if that makes sense?!?
@@MysticFL1-Beth But Alcherra is a long ways from the sol system, if Shepard is alive, he wouldn't have survived drifting in space unconscious until he lands on Alcherra, the helmet piece maybe more possible to drift out to Alcherra, but that would mean Shepard didn't survive, he would've needed enough oxygen to crash land on Earth and survive
The fan base is split pretty squarely on wanting/not wanting to play as Sheppard. The Khet of Andromeda was just a small Legion. The strength of the khet is unknown. They attack in power in the milky way. Fast forward 500 years and Liara and the player are part of a rebel group trying to use the thing in Andromeda to resurrect Sheppard because only he could defeat them. This is them searching for anything of his as his body exploded sending pieces across the galaxy. The last mission is sacrifice yourself to resurrect Sheppard or destroy him. Next Mass effect you could play as your character or shepard. Could go down an army of Sheppard route but don't think it would be as good of a storyline and alot harder to completely change the storyline of the next game.
There certainly needs to be a logical explanation for the N7 helmet piece recovery by Liara in the trailer, and I hope it's an oversight by Bioware that Shepard's helmet just before his dive to the planet did not have it. After all, it's the N7 uniform/enviro kit he was wearing, and would have normally been emblazened with the logos. I have to say that this oversight by Bioware is forgivable and, to some extent expected, given the depth and complexity of the story (which makes ME one of the best games to become immersed in) and the scrutiny given to it by the ME community as a result. The question is "Why did Liara go there?" and "How significant is the N7 helmet piece find?". Was she looking for it, or did she just stumble across it? Is Bioware just trying to show that Shepard is going to play a significant role in ME 4/5. The destroy end, which we probably consider to be canon at this point, has Shepard survive somehow. So for a period of time after that, Shepard would have been part of the galactic recovery effort. So what occured between then and Liara's N7 helmet find? I'm not sure gathering bits of Shepard for a re-clone would be at the top of the agenda given the result of the last clone.
@@WJFRudman Very interesting theory, there are so many possibilities as to what happened after the destroy ending and Shepard's survival. The N7 piece has to be from Shepard's ME3 helmet, because both the helmet and the armor from Mass effect 2 are collected in the game, the helmet by Shepard on Alcherra, and the armor by Liara, you can see Shepard's armor in Liara's apartment on Lair of the Shadow Broker, wich also show's us that Liara has already been on Alcherra, why would she go there again? Maybe Shepard found a way to travel there, wanting to salvage the wreck of the Normandy SR1, maybe it's just a significant place un the story, maybe Shepard got sent all the way there, but it's not possible, Alcherra is a long ways from Earth, and Shepard's survival scene is on Earth, so what happened, if all the galaxy got disconnected, what happened after?
But if the planet in the trailer IS Alchera, wouldn’t Liara need a helmet or respirator just as Shep needed one in Me2? Granted she’s an Asari but she would still need some sort of oxygen other than not having a helmet at all. I don’t think it’s Alchera but rather say Siberia or some very cold place on earth. I was originally leading towards Its the OG squad (maybe shep next to the ship) picking up some Shepard armor after it was either blown to bits by Harbinger (before our hero marauder shields) or fell down from the citadel after perfect destroy ending.
I think it's the most probable idea I don't think they would be so cruel and stupid to troll us about that piece of helmet not being Shepards. the citadel was in orbit and we know trhat pieces of satellites can fall on earth in any place compatible with the earth rotation. how he/she survived the fall is another story. there is however the issue of the three moons. Is it possible that was something like a Liara dream?
I think the only reason that doesn't make sense is because of 3 moons. The only 2 things to explain that imo, is moons formed out of debris, (very un-likely given their size) or it's a different planet.
It was stated in ME2 from the Illusive Man that it makes sense the reapers/ collectors would be interested in Shepard and his former crew, which is why they attacked Horizon when Ashley/Kaiden is stationed there. It actually makes a lot of sense if the Reapers did land on Alchera to scavenge the wreck of the Normandy.
The helmet Shepard is using during the collector attack wasn't lost. As far as I remember, the helmet preserved Shepard's brain....in other words, Shepard still had his helmet on when he was found.
I believe that it is stated that the only reason shepherds brain even survived was due to his helmet come ME3. Think its said near the beginning or in a video log later on
Yes it said the helmet was intact and had protected the brain for all the good that would do. I believe it also goes on to say operative Lawson would be taking over project Lazurus from now on.
All three names of the moon's are indigenous Australian tribal names. Uluru is the giant rock in the middle of Australia said to be a spearhead thrown from space. Wandjina (Wonjinna) is traditional spirit creature Baiame is an ancient creation father not quite like a god but similar.
@@raklibra Alchera is one of the words for our creation period called the "dreaming" which is hard to translate. So imagine if the afterlife doesn't exist because it already happened and then the spirit world became the physical world that was "the dreaming" so when you die your soul stays here in the physical world. So there's some symbolism accidental or not. 🙂
Great theory. I think the possibility that the reason the helmets don't match is because Shepard had the newer helmet for 2 games so it's more iconic to the franchise so they went with that. However, we know Shepard's body wasn't left on that planet and the Reapers know this aswell as Liara. Why return there? We know cloning Shepard isn't the best idea as all of Shepards memories from ME3 wouldn't be there. My only last ditch explanation is maybe Liara found a way to transmit memories to Shepard because she was allowed to study the memory shard from Javik and SOMEHOW found a way of pulling back some of Shepards memories from people and places he/she's been? Maybe to loosely rebuild Shepard's conscious in a new cloned body? Maybe that's a big theme for the new game?? All massive speculation.
@@MrHulthen tbh I didn't even realise the OG helmet didn't have the N7 insignia either. Considering that whole trailer looks almost like a dream sequence, I think we can forgive them for using a slightly out of canon placement of something to make the trailer work.
@@MrHulthen I've always thought that scene was a flashback type scene to Liara looking for/finding Shepard's body after the SR-1 crashed. She tells us that she saved our body from the Shadow Broker and handed it over to Cerberus, and as she was on board during the attack, she would know exactly where to search to find it first.
@@likeasaltydog there are plenty of dead reapers from previous cycles lying around, so it is not impossible that there were dead reapers on the world the normandy wreakage crashed on. We don't get to explore much of that ice planet.
Sheep would have multiple helmets, even suits. If he/she was wearing the enviro-helmet, the standard ‘boots on the ground’ helmet would still be in Sheps locker or wherever he kept it in his cabin (which he did; ME3 Shep was performing maintenance on his helmet in his cabin when Liara came in to speak to him after Plaven, I believe) I believe you are on to something, amigo. That’s why I enjoy your vids. You get the gears in my head spinning. Also, it would be amazing to see more races emerge from hiding after the destruction of the Reapers. The Yahg are still around, the avian species, etc. The possibilities are endless. Thanks for the vid.
This is amazing, I actually had the same theory about Alcherra a few weeks ago, I was playing ME2 and when I got to Alcherra I thought to myself, hey this looks almost exactly like the planet in the trailer, I was waiting for you to make a video out of this theory. So for me it is possible that Shepard maybe after waking up from the probable crash land he/she had, then found a way to venture to that planet, specially because the Normandy SR1 crashed there, maybe trying to get resources, or somewhere familiar to stay, and like you said, maybe The Inusannon, after realizing the threat of the Reapers has finished, they finally traveled beyond the planet they we're hiding on, with a probability of exploring Alcherra finding Shepard alive and taking him with them. Maybe there is a probability that Shepard made an alliance with the Inusannon where he/she helps them rebuild in exchange for helping him find the crew, and a way back home it's an interesting theory, and it might not be to far fetched, it's actually very plausible Kepp up with the amazing work you're doing Mrhulthen!
@@nathanvosburgh718 There are also multiple dead Reapers, which were nowhere to be found on Alcherra in ME2. This is obviously after ME3 and another point: Shepard needed helmet to survive out there, which means Liara would need something like that as well to breathe. But in the trailer only one with a helmet seems to be that Ryder look alike in the distance, which means that local atmosphere is breathable. It really looks like Alcherra, but I don't think it is.
Since the sun is viewable breaking over the event horizon it might be the moon with Mercury and Venus in alignment. Definitely doest look like Mars, Jupiter or Uranus. Unfortunately they used alot of shadow, and light reflection to disguise the 3 objects.
The view could be of Earth taken from the direction coming into the system after passing Mars. With a sun breaking over the event horizon it puts the planet your landing on totally in shadow, as well as the moon the closest object to Earth, with Venus the next bright object and bright Mercury inline with the breaking sun. Unfortunately theres no real way to tell.
Honestly, I'm suprised. The first time I've watched the trailer I recognized Shepard's next-gen N7 helmet piece right away (thought everybody else did also, so don't take this the wrong way). Also; I'm not entirely sure it belongs to Shepard. Remember that Shepard was the N7 Operator, BUT there was a whole lot bunch of badasses (James Vega included) within N7 Spec Ops. Maybe devs are just playing with fans' nostalgia and the next main character is gonna be another N7 agent. And about Alchera: the "breather issue" so I guess maybe it's another planet or maybe the nights require you wearing the helmet because you'd freeze to death, but daylight time is relatively safe.
You don't need a helmet because of the cold(-22 Celsius is chilly, but not lethal if you dress warm), you need it because the atmosphere is methane and ammonia.
Similar to what another comment had said, its possible that the helmet was in storage (as you have the option for multiple helmets in ME2) and was destroyed during the crash. Possibly from a helmet with a n7 logo rather then his "battle" one which is lacking that mark
The Lazarus Project didn't extend Shepard's lifespan, it was literally a total reconstruction of Shepard from the ground up. Aging would still be an effect, especially since Cerberus didn't just invent ever-lasting human cells.
We do know that Shepards tissue is a combination of organic and some kind of super biosynthetic material so maybe it’s not impossible that Shepards aging was drastically slowed. But it’s hard to say.
Maybe its Earth. The citadel crashes on earth after the severe damage from the weapon firing. It would mess up the atmosphere. Explains all the Reapers.
For me: 1) BioWare has a big habit of retconnecting old lore that they dont like or doesnt fit their narrative in the new game 2) I looked closely what planet it could be AND the final planet where Joker "lands" the Normandy after running away from the crucible blast - it has also multiple moons; the planet where is the "star gazer" also has multiple moons, its icy in the star gazer scene and Normandy crew lands there. (the only problem there is that if you have enough war assets, Joker will take off again BUT if you dont, Joker starts a colony there which has tales of commander Shepard AND since Liara is really hard to kill, she could be there BUT how Shepard got there ??) => I think they will simply retcon the armor having N7 pieces and say that it was design oversight (or wont comment on it at all) and roll with Alchera.
they can’t be bad as fucking Netherrealm, not only do they retcon pretty much everything and for no good reason, they can’t even be fucking consistent with their retcons for one game
What a pleasure to have theory on Mass effect 4/5! I find that what you say and very interesting in relation to the concept art with Eingana, and the planet Alcherra that we see in the trailer could be exact it would allow us to discover other planets and to get closer to the mysteries that the Milky Way still has a lot to offer us, and maybe bring back our favorite Shepard. Thank you MrHulten for this excellent video continue I love it!
I think this one is one of the top 5 Theories made by you so far and makes a lot of sense at least for me it feels more real and possible then many Theories out there also 1 more thing that could heave been added to the video is what Javick says on the normandy to shepard if you talk with him enough times about the Inusannon, i don't remember exacly what he said, but i am sure he talked about them. The future feels great for ME and i can't wait for more official information on the next title. Keep up the awesome work MrHulthen.
To play devils advocate, I guess you could argue they added the N7 logo so everyone can notice what part that was in the trailer, they could simply retcon previous games by saying they were not "HD enough" to see the logo but in the new "HD universe" the logo was always there
Why does everyone think that Shepard only had one helmet, the one she wore during the Collector attack on the Normandy? Who only has one helmet? I imagine the quartermaster on the Normandy kept several spares for Shepard, as she was always coming back from missions with banged up equipment. Shepard found one of her old helmets intact on Alcherra, and it is highly unlikely that it is the one she was wearing when she landed on Alcherra. _Assuming she ever did actually land on Alcherra._ There is a lot about the Lazarus Project that is kind of stupid, it was clearly a narrative device used to create a game effect, and they really didn't think it through. They have an opportunity to recontextualize the events surrounding the Lazarus Project to make the whole thing way cooler in retrospect, and I hope they do. I think that it makes more sense that Cerberus had some kind of foreknowledge of the Collector attack, and swooped in and snatched Shepard as she was falling toward Alcherra, after she 'flatlines' but before real brain death could occur.
The biggest issues I have with the theory are we heard a recording or data pad entry that when they were rebuilding Shepard in M2 that the helmet was intact, and protected Shepard brain for whatever good that would do. It was in either M2 the station attack and our awakening or M3 at the Cerberus Headquarters. So the helmet piece might be from the recovered helmet if it's the crash site. Liara wasnt wearing a mask so it had to be a breathable atmosphere, and it wasnt when we visited the crash site. We were on the citadel when we destroyed the reapers, and its confirmed as a dead reaper shes walking up, with indoctrination a thing even when dead I think that leaves out the crash site since they might still have the ability to indoctrinate if they were from an earlier fight, also there were no acknowledged dead reapers at the crash site when we visited. If there were dead Reapers at the crash site we wouldnt have had to go looking for an IFF, or gone to the collector ship. It might be Earth since the majority of the reapers had gone there to protect the Citadel from the Alliance and the device, so dead Reapers in orbit would have rained down on the planet, maybe that massive wave of power shunted thru the relays finally burnt out the Reapers totally, including the indoctrination aspect. Than theres the fact our armor was literally blown off when we fought at the beam in London to get onto the Citadel, and we went up with no helmet at all, and a very crispy under uniform. But I believe that in the area we landed in there was a Keeper sorting parts or bodies that had a N7 helmet held up as we walked by it. I think its Earth not the crash site.
yeah I think it's earth too and the teaser is just a bunch of images put together without much sense. the three moons could be something not related with Liara finding the helmet piece and it's possible they used the helmet piece as a way to tease the presence of Shepard in the game in some capacity without much thought about the details like the fact Shep wasn't wearing an helmet when she/he arrived at the beam.
We have no idea how the massive release of the power thru the relays and Citadel affected Earth. We literally wiped out a system by destroying the Batarrian relay. For all we know we plunged Earth into a nuclear winter. Indoctrination was occurring with inert or dead Reapers or artifacts so the Reaper corpses are more likely to be from the final fight and totally inactive because we destroyed them, controlled them and they are hibernating, or now a living hybrid and have a lifecycle from synthesis.
@@girlinvt this idea of a destroyed earth is compatible with that leak in the description of the poster on the official site where they said something like "in a destroyed earth Shepard and the survivors..." that was then cancelled. I must say I don't like the idea because it would be a sort of defeat for Shepard because it would mean she/he didn't manage to save earth.
@@littlemouse7066 one would have to believe unleashing the amount of power they did with the Citadel and relays would have to be devastating to Earth because it was so close, 60 miles or so away. As I said destroying the Batarrian relay wiped out the Batarrian system. At the very least it might send the planet into an ice age. Depending on your endgame choice you could have the reapers help, they are destroyed totally or we are now all a synthetic hybrid. I really think we are coming into the Milkyway galaxy from outside, possibly from Andromeda based on the trailer. The simple fact the radio messages we hear thru out the trailer are the Earths oldest being heard first than more recent and timeline current the closer to your destination. That's the way they would be heard if your traveling towards Earth from outside our system, they even have a scene that looks like we go through the Kuiper belt thats only around 30 au from Earth and than we see the massive battlefield debris field, it even looks like we pass thru the burned out destroyed hulk of the Citadel. It's the very last scene that I question the most and that when Liara looks at the shuttle and the group standing by it. The shuttle doesn't look Alliance issue, it looks Angaran. Theres also the fact theres a large planet hanging over that shuttle, I didnt notice that at first until I watched it again today.
@@girlinvt It would be possible it's the point of view of the Normandy crew returning from the planet they crashed on at the end of ME3 and Liara was on board but that strange looking shuttle doesn't add up. I'm starting to think the teaser is a bit of a mess and maybe we shouldn't give it so much importance.
Great theorizing! I too felt Liara was on the planet Alchera. If we do go to Eingana for ME4 I hope Javic is still alive and he and Liara can be on the same exploratory mission. I would give anything for Liara to rib Javic when he finds out his race's biotics were the result of gene manipulation by his Innosannan Gods. I'm going with trailer artists forgot, too.
If not for the dead reaper, I would say this is aftercrash and Liara is searching for Shepard's body to give it to Cerberus for the Lazarus project. Nevertheless, I love your theories! And appreciate the good lore👍 Maybe she's looking for another N7 soldier? Shepard's not the only one.
A Prothean survived, so why not the other races? I'd love if Javik stuck around for the next game and wouldn't mind meeting some other old races. I think that given the reaper's fascination with Shepard (they sent the collectors after all) it makes sense they would send one or 2 to Alchera to see if they could find something in the wreckage to help them stop Shep. I expect the helmet was an oversight, but who knows.
If the Inusannon were ostensibly extirpated in the cycle before the Protheans, then they could easily survive another 100,000 years if they had enough of a viable population that could hunker down on a backwater planet. Whether they could preserve anything of their culture and history is another matter, but I imagine watching the next two Reaper cycles (assuming they had some capacity to know what's happening offworld) would give them incentive to keep hiding out.
Javik wasnt the only example of a race believed to be extinct to survive. Leviathan and other of that race survived in hiding for upwards of a million years, since its acknowledged that Harbinger was the very first Reaper created from the reaping of the race known as Leviathan.
Brilliant theories Mr Hulten, worthy of a swede🤟🙂👍 My question is, why or how could Shepard end up on Ultera after the destruction of the reapers. He was seriously injured. But, Shepard could be one of the figures Liara looks at, at the end of the trailer, meaning some time has passed and he has recovered and joined up for a new mission, as you point to.
I don't think we should take the trailer as strictly canonical but rather artistically suggestive. It's a very early work proceeding a TON of dev work that's still ongoing. So just because the N7-logo is missing on Shep's helmet I wouldn't consider that a deal breaker. Liara could still go to Alchera to look up something from Shep's past.
i'd like to think Shepard had multiple helmets. we know the Normandy crash site mission is about finding the dog tags of the members that died and returning them to the family members to give them closure after those two years. but when we find the helmet, Shepard keeps it in their room on the Normandy. if it was another member, they would most likely give it back to the alliance so that it can be given to the family of the person that died Shepard also was most likely still wearing their helmet when they body was find since it's mentioned in the video log on cerberus that the only reason their brain was able to survive was due to their helmet keeping it intact. maybe that piece liara picks up did come off the helmet. we know she was able to do some digging around for a while and recover shepard's dogtags and give then back at the end of the shadow broker dlc. but not only that she was able able to recover some of their armor and keep it in her apartment. who's to say she didn't do the same for the n7 helmet piece. i know the shadow broker was the one to find shepard's body but i believe it was never mentioned how or where he found their body (please correct me if i'm wrong and it is actually mentioned somewhere) maybe shepard did land on that planet when they died and the shadow broker just left the stuff belonging to them and he was only interested in the body itself. regardless of what that planet actually is and why liara is there picking up that bit of n7 helmet piece, i'm still excited to see where it's going in the next game. looking forward to the next n7 day to see what other clues/hits we'll get
Finding an old crashed ship on an icy, deserted planet has cool visuals, so they reused this same general idea twice, independently from each other. The first planet is not special at all, so it doesn’t make much sense to reuse the exact same location. It would be weird if Liara would focus on finding some old relic from long time ago, which was ignored all along. Rather she looks for the remainings of ship which crashed during the final battle. It just makes way more sense to connect the story to the final Reaper battle, instead of events from the beginning of ME2.
Recall Legion's explanations as to how he followed Shepard. His last stop was based on discovering that the trail had gone cold. This means that his N7 chunk had to be found there. Yet, Shepard's armor had remained whole throughout (As he lost his air through pincushion penetrations!) and this was why I remain mystified about Legion's equipage. The fact is that his helmet had retained integrity (During his resurrection the one voice says that his helmet had kept his head together, the only reason they had a chance to regenerate him.) voids the destruction into pieces explanations. Conundrums abound!
There is a ton of things I want to see in this next ME but the most important aspect I want is a connection between the Milky way & the Andromeda Galaxy.
I feel like the N7 piece was just a nod to Sheperd but not actually his. After all, it is just a CGI teaser trailer which did not even reveal the actual name of the next game. But if the same scene makes it into the next trailer, then I can see it belonging to someone like Sheperd due to the scene being used more than once which puts emphasis on the N7 piece.
I thought about this being the location as soon as i first saw that trailer, it instantly clicked in my head that this has to be the planet where Sheppard crashed. It just made sense
It could be that Shep had more than one helmet. The one he was wearing during the cinematic had that air supply pipe out the back, but the ones we'd see him wear in ME1 did not.
That helmet insignia matches perfectly with the helmet on the main menu of the legendary edition launcher. When you cycle between games the visor on the helmet changes colors but the nothing else does. Perhaps indicating this is maybe canonically what the helmet shepherd carries through all three games looks like. Might be a stretch, but I am personally under the impression that Alchera has an alright chance to be where Shepherd lost that helmet. I also believe there is a fairly good chance the cinematic team either didn’t know or didn’t care about the small detail that the insignia wasn’t in the Mass Effect two intro. The biggest hole to this theory to me is why two reapers would even be on this planet for the reasons you mentioned, especially so close to each other as if the crash site was around a heavily densified area. Which it clearly wasn’t. (also I love your vid‘s, gets me excited, keep crafting theories!)
That bunker looks like the one from Tuchunka. whenever you went there in ME2. and given what Eve said in ME3 while you're in the old city to cure the krogan about the planet wasn't always like that.
Since the last known location of Shepard was Citadel which is by the time of ME3 ending was orbiting EARTH. So if Shep survived and some reaper remnant falling, most likely they will be dropped around Earth Sphere. And from trailer most likely Liara is on Arctic Area. This scenario also making sense with how Shep helmet is having N7 logo as it was the latest Shep helmet on ME3 & not the old non logo one as we already found that in Alchera mission..but the 3 moon though, that's hard to explain
I feel that having survived final battle (it would be cruel if BioWare have just placed that scene where she/he takes breath just to conclude that Shep dies waiting for a rescue), the commander would not be able just to live a normal live and rest for long. Shepard would just throw her/himself into another mission, partially because it was something she/he did her all life, additionally as a way to cope with PTSD (dream in ME3 point on that) and survivor guilt. I love the idea of searching for Shep on a swamp planet, kind of searching for Yoda. Your analysis is great as always, hope that ME4/5 developers would share your love for the games and would also thinks as deeply as you on their content. Hope we will know more from BioWare soon.
I'm currently replaying ME2 for the 1000th time, actually for the first time after release of this trailer...and just as I was walking around the Normandy crash site and picked up the helmet, I got the exactly same idea that you had and immediately stopped everything to go search the internet if someone else came up with this idea...of course the first result was this video :D But to the theory as I see it: - After seeing the info you brought up from the planet description, I'm highly convinced that this is indeed Alchera. Your reasoing behing the Reapers going there because of Shepard also does make sense. - N7 helmet - the fact that the ME2 helmet didn't had the logo could indeed be just a oversight. Afterall, it is unlikely that it could be a piece of Shepards helmet from ME3 ending, as someone already stated in the comments, his/her armor got completely destroyed during the final run. Also to the N7 logo - I've been toying with a theory idea in my head for some time about how could Shepards N7 helmet get to a different planet than Earth because of what happened at the end of ME3. One of my ideas is that it doesn't have to be right after ME3 ending. Explanation: Shepard somehow survives ME3 ending (insert a lore-friendly story writting element in order to explain that) -> Shepard recovers from injuries -> for some reason (again, insert a story reason for that) he/she goes to Alchera with a NEW ARMOR with the N7 logo -> something goes wrong on Alchera and he/she looses the piece of N7 helmet -> Liara later finds it (again, insert story reason for why she didn't come with Shepard in the first place) -> story goes on from there. I know it's a little far-fetched, but I like playing with these theories in my head all the time, just like you :D - Liara breathing - my idea is that she could simply be using biotics in order to shield herself from the enviroment. That could be a simple lore-friendly explanation for it. - Reapers coming to Alchera during the war (or to be specific, to the Amada system in the first place) might very well be the facts you brought up about Eingana.
It took a lot just to get the attention of one capital ship reaper to appear somewhere with low population (I.E. the Leviathan of dis). To see 2 capital ship reapers ought to mean this planet was more than just simply a priority planet for the Reapers. So it's possible that a former Apex race was inhabiting Alchera and that could be why two capital ship reapers were there. Would be kind of neat if we are following an investigation from Commander Shepard and those to big reaper ships have been there for more than a few cycles time.
I honestly hope it's not Alcherra. Because that's a serious bit of WreckCon. But hey, is it worse than what Bioware did to Anders in DA2? Probably not. So I won't rule it out.
I've always thought that the snowy planet was the one the SR-1 crashed on, and what we are seeing is Liara finding Shep's body before handing it over to Cerberus for the Lazarus project. She tells us she saved Shepard's body from the Shadow Broker but not how, and as she was there she would know exactly which planet to go to to look for it. If the Innusannon had colonised the system then it makes total sense for dead Reapers to be there, as I am sure that Humans were not the only species to have managed to kill a few during their harvesting cycles. And 100,000 years is peanuts in geological time, so the planet would not have changed much to destroy the corpses.
If that piece of helmet is not Shepard's it would mean they are trolling us and I don't think it would be healthy for Bioware to do that after all the criticism they got for Andromeda (most of it undeserved) and Anthem. So I think it would basically be a suicide for them to fool us on this. the rest can be what ever you can imagine in terms of storyline.
I have actually seen the lithograph for Mass Effect 4/5, and saw at the bottom, zoomed in at a high definition format, and saw what seem to be faces of aliens and characters that could be either introduced or reintroduced in the game.
Very nice catch about the planet. It could also be that this cinematic is not from the start of the game but something that happens at a later point, on that planet. Maybe Shepard survived (i.e. perfect Destroy ending) and for some reason he went to this planet on his way to somewhere else and Liara is following the breadcrumbs, in order to find him? It could be an interesting idea to play both sides of this storyline, if such a theory is true. On the one hand we could be playing Shepard who, for some reason, is searching for something alone in the Milky Way and on the other hand we play the LI and their squad who follows the clues and tries to catch up.
The whole trailer with Liara could also just be a flash back of when she found Shep for Cerberus. She could have been there with her drell friend and other crew, And maybe this is only a small snippet of her telling Sheps story to someone. And maybe the dead reapers were there but no one knew what they were or they added those for us to speculate over
This is a brilliant theory, and would be awesome for ME4. No question that this is Alcherra, and I think the N7 logo was added to the trailer to point to Shepard being in the next game, in some way
very good and well explained video, 🙂👏💯👍 like you said it might be Shepard's helmet, or might not be, but something that could be is that possibly part of Shepard may be on the ice planet and liara might be looking for part of him to bring him back in a way like Cerberus did, only but this time like a clone because there might be possible problems with the species of the tropical planet.
Thanks for the theory video! I honestly look at this as two options. 1. They're retconning the insignia on the helmet and making it a plausible reason as to why she finds it buried in the snow. Possibly also reconning the fact the planet isn't oxygen supporting as you see 3 other people in the background. Looks like a Human in the middle, Salarian on the left and I think that's Turian armor on the right. Not 100% sure obviously, but the silhouettes match in my eyes haha and it doesn't look like they're not wearing helmets either. Maybe they're searching for some sort of remnants of Shepard for another resurrection like in ME2? Possibly Liara has put this team together to hunt for said Shepard stuff. Wouldn't be completely out of the question tbh. Wouldn't be the most original concept either, but why not? Option 2? Maybe they're pulling a fast one on us all with this teaser and it has absolutely nothing to do with the next game. They're just showing us the floating debris and Liara for no other reason than to say it's going to be rooted in the original Mass Effect series in the Milky Way Galaxy and not Andromeda LOL. Regardless, I CANNOT WAIT for the next chapter in the Mass Effect saga 🙂 Thanks again for the video!
I'm wondering if Shepard might've latched onto a reaper during the energy blast, and that's what the debris was in the ending. It would be great if they gave you the option to pick different outcomes at the start of the game like ME2, that way you could still have your trilogy story intact.
If it is in fact Alchera in the trailer, one reason why Liara isn’t wearing a helmet could be simply for cosmetic reasons. Like in the game, she would need a helmet, but maybe they just removed it for the trailer so we could actually see her face and be able to recognize her for the reveal.
There's a new option for mass effect 5 during me3's priority: thessia the prothean vi talks about a pattern but all conflicts, evolutionary paths and so forth happen in Cycles and the reapers are a product of that cycle not its master. So the next mass effect game could have the cycles master as the enemy. If we choose the control or sync paths then the reapers would be the first line of defence and they are holding the line while we find a way to stop them. This is a way for there to be dead reapers in the trailer without forcing that ending on everyone.
I think the N7 helmet isn't from ME1 but may be ME3.And (theorizing here) after the crucible deployment Shepard or some trace of him ended up on a reaper crashing into that planet... Or during the race to the beam after Harbinger decimated the raiding force took a piece of Shepard's helmet (stretching) and that dead reaper could be Harbinger itself....
It still could be a piece of N7 helmet on the planet Shepard died in beginning of ME2 because it looks the helmet you get part of your N7 armor and helmet you get in ME2 and ME3 after you came back from being dead. Could be a reference to ME2 and Shepard thought to be dead but not . Maybe it broke off and got flung through a mass relay before or during the ending of ME3 as debris in space and landed on the same planet where Shepard died in ME2 or something happen that caused Shepard helmet to broke off or to remove by Shepard while on the planet for some reason between ME3 and ME4/5.
Liara searching for Sheppard who is on some mysterious quest to find more forgotten species such as the Leviathans would be an interesting start to the game. Where we play as Liara, while her friends, & family {maybe a few little blue babies, since she did say Asari can use past encounters to procreate} try to convince her that Sheppard is dead. Yet as the Shadow Broker she tends to knows more of recent events, than anyone else in the galaxy. Therefore, say Sheppard keeps an old promise & sent up a figurative flare for her to see & find him. As for timeline, it would be very interesting to advance it a couple decades at least, & for Sheppard it was a blip in time as being so close to the exploding Catalyst had a temporal effect of flinging him forward in time & space. Because really, how does he go from orbit to breathing again on the ground? 😅 🌒🌕🌘
I don't think it's the same planet, because it's stated in the Shadow broker DLC that Liara is the one used shadow broker resources to find his body on Alchera to begin with, then give it over to Cerberus in hopes they could bring Shep back. Furthermore, as per the perfect ending cutscene with the breath. It looks like there is no snow wherever shep is, which could be earth if the citadel crashed down, except the three moons kinda hurts that theory. I think it's most likely that it's an oversight from people who weren't part of the OG dev team.
It is possible that the entire trailer is a metaphor. Let's be honest, Liara would do just about anything for Shepard. Walking up the side of a dead Reaper in a blinding snow storm, could be a metaphor for that. Finding the N7 would be one for Shepard, of course. Now rewinding to the beginning of the trailer. Watching Andromeda fade into the background is about returning the story to the Milky Way. The sound bites, all having to do with space firsts (Man on the moon, John Glenn and what I think is a reference to First Contact War) could be a metaphor for this being the first chapter of a new story. The planet an its moons could be representative of all the planets Shepard visited in her/his travels or just a red herring.
Nice theory. But one little extra caveat: If Alchera is inhospitable, why isn’t Liara wearing at least a breathing mask? Shepard did wear full gear because of the planets temperatures and atmosphere.
i imagine it was more likely an oversight by the me2 prologue, but it could also be that they just Decided to put the N7 on the helmet so it would be easily recognizable and continuity be damned its just a trailer
I'm still convinced Liara is looking over at shepard in the distance when she picks up the N7 armour. I just don't get why she would look at that and smile, sure she could be remembering them and the good times but the broken piece of armour kind of symbolises their death rather than their life at least to me. If they wanted something for her to smile about perhaps an old photo of shepard would suffice. Also, I still believe that the trailer wasn't meant to do much besides create hype which it has done very well, so the details of the trailer could be meaningless in the end, no one can say for sure until we get more information
I always wondered if Shepard could be bought back just like how Cerberus did in ME2, maybe it's a flashback when liara found Shepard, or maybe liara went back to that planet for a similar mission.
In the trailer it seems that the planet atmosphere is breathable while Shepard wears a helmet while being on that planet which only happens if the air is not breathable.
it also looks like she disconnects it from something, probably a helmet, but I feel like it's a chest piece because it looks bigger. Though I think that's just an illusion.
If destroy is going to be the cannon ending, it makes sense that the dead reapers would need to be stored somewhere. Liara may be searching a reaper graveyard. Don't forget than the clone Sheppard could still be out there somewhere. What if there was another clone? or that we played with a clone in ME2 & ME3 and the original Sheppard is in a cryo unit waiting to be found... just a theory.
Plot to offer: The planet is not Alchera, Destruction was chosen but Shepard did not "live." That is not Liara, but rather the distant offspring of Liara and Shepard who arrives in the Andromeda Galaxy some years after the events of the ME: Andromeda. This would suggest that life continues to be space fairing after the destruction and Liara's romance to be cannon. The presence of the "dead reapers" could suggest they were following the arks and were systematically "killed" as the crucible's matter hit them on the fringes of the milky way galaxy. This could also tie in with what Liam said about his car on its' way to Andromeda. There's much to hypothesize on until more information is attained.
On the planet you are speaking of if you look into the sky you can see a nebula or galaxy that looks strangely like the nebula in the teaser trailer ending. Maybe I am wrong.
I still like your theories, no matter how outlandish they may seem. I do think those two planets are interesting and could have traces of very ancient civilizations.
Imagine a primitive Group of Inusannon and Thoi'han living in that planet and they ate the decendants of the crew members that survived the ships crashing into the planet and the Reapers didn't harvest them because they were in a messed up planet stuck without any technology.
so as you've pointed out Shepard definitely has an N7 helmet with the N7 logos on it. just because she wasn't wearing it in that emergency situation doesn't mean it wasn't on the ship anywhere. also why wouldn't they have multiple suits of armor and as such multiple helmets? can't be grounded because of damage to a helmet... just use another one. I'm convinced this is Alcherra and one of many of Sheps helmets fell on the planet on the ship broke apart and spread out. even if it was an oversight by the cinematic people it can be easily explained away as not a mistake.
I think its somewhere else. We dont even know if it is actually Shepards Helmet piece, he wasnt the only N7. I didnt think about the 3 moons, because I previously thought it could be Noveria. But I dont know how many moons Noveria has. It could have been another N7 that was killed fighting the Reapers, but Liara picks it up and remembers.
If it is where Shep got spaced and all would this mean that ME 4/5 would be taking place in the 2 years between ME1 and ME2? Story of Liara looking for Shep's body and getting it to Cerberus. Maybee a story about Liara keeping it from the Shadow Broker?
I feel like that the N7 piece might be something just to tell the ME fans that the trilogy will continue, but it doesn’t mean anything in particular in the regards of Shepard. Well - at least not in that trailer in particular , lol.
What do you think? Is the N7 helmet piece an oversight from the cinematic team?
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You hit it on the nutshell and the N7 helmet piece is from the helmet Shepherd wears in ME3 I think the explosion could have sent femshep there to the planet because in the last part when she’s shooting the device it explode outward not downward if that makes sense?!?
@@MysticFL1-Beth But Alcherra is a long ways from the sol system, if Shepard is alive, he wouldn't have survived drifting in space unconscious until he lands on Alcherra, the helmet piece maybe more possible to drift out to Alcherra, but that would mean Shepard didn't survive, he would've needed enough oxygen to crash land on Earth and survive
The fan base is split pretty squarely on wanting/not wanting to play as Sheppard. The Khet of Andromeda was just a small Legion. The strength of the khet is unknown. They attack in power in the milky way. Fast forward 500 years and Liara and the player are part of a rebel group trying to use the thing in Andromeda to resurrect Sheppard because only he could defeat them. This is them searching for anything of his as his body exploded sending pieces across the galaxy. The last mission is sacrifice yourself to resurrect Sheppard or destroy him. Next Mass effect you could play as your character or shepard. Could go down an army of Sheppard route but don't think it would be as good of a storyline and alot harder to completely change the storyline of the next game.
There certainly needs to be a logical explanation for the N7 helmet piece recovery by Liara in the trailer, and I hope it's an oversight by Bioware that Shepard's helmet just before his dive to the planet did not have it. After all, it's the N7 uniform/enviro kit he was wearing, and would have normally been emblazened with the logos.
I have to say that this oversight by Bioware is forgivable and, to some extent expected, given the depth and complexity of the story (which makes ME one of the best games to become immersed in) and the scrutiny given to it by the ME community as a result.
The question is "Why did Liara go there?" and "How significant is the N7 helmet piece find?". Was she looking for it, or did she just stumble across it? Is Bioware just trying to show that Shepard is going to play a significant role in ME 4/5.
The destroy end, which we probably consider to be canon at this point, has Shepard survive somehow. So for a period of time after that, Shepard would have been part of the galactic recovery effort. So what occured between then and Liara's N7 helmet find? I'm not sure gathering bits of Shepard for a re-clone would be at the top of the agenda given the result of the last clone.
@@WJFRudman Very interesting theory, there are so many possibilities as to what happened after the destroy ending and Shepard's survival.
The N7 piece has to be from Shepard's ME3 helmet, because both the helmet and the armor from Mass effect 2 are collected in the game, the helmet by Shepard on Alcherra, and the armor by Liara, you can see Shepard's armor in Liara's apartment on Lair of the Shadow Broker, wich also show's us that Liara has already been on Alcherra, why would she go there again?
Maybe Shepard found a way to travel there, wanting to salvage the wreck of the Normandy SR1, maybe it's just a significant place un the story, maybe Shepard got sent all the way there, but it's not possible, Alcherra is a long ways from Earth, and Shepard's survival scene is on Earth, so what happened, if all the galaxy got disconnected, what happened after?
But if the planet in the trailer IS Alchera, wouldn’t Liara need a helmet or respirator just as Shep needed one in Me2? Granted she’s an Asari but she would still need some sort of oxygen other than not having a helmet at all. I don’t think it’s Alchera but rather say Siberia or some very cold place on earth. I was originally leading towards Its the OG squad (maybe shep next to the ship) picking up some Shepard armor after it was either blown to bits by Harbinger (before our hero marauder shields) or fell down from the citadel after perfect destroy ending.
That's a very good point, I completely forgot about that part lol
I think it's the most probable idea I don't think they would be so cruel and stupid to troll us about that piece of helmet not being Shepards. the citadel was in orbit and we know trhat pieces of satellites can fall on earth in any place compatible with the earth rotation. how he/she survived the fall is another story. there is however the issue of the three moons. Is it possible that was something like a Liara dream?
I think the only reason that doesn't make sense is because of 3 moons. The only 2 things to explain that imo, is moons formed out of debris, (very un-likely given their size) or it's a different planet.
Myth Busted!
They retcon that shit in ME2, everyone can survive wearing a fucking covid mask except Shepard 🤪
It was stated in ME2 from the Illusive Man that it makes sense the reapers/ collectors would be interested in Shepard and his former crew, which is why they attacked Horizon when Ashley/Kaiden is stationed there. It actually makes a lot of sense if the Reapers did land on Alchera to scavenge the wreck of the Normandy.
The helmet Shepard is using during the collector attack wasn't lost. As far as I remember, the helmet preserved Shepard's brain....in other words, Shepard still had his helmet on when he was found.
I believe that it is stated that the only reason shepherds brain even survived was due to his helmet come ME3. Think its said near the beginning or in a video log later on
@@itsblue8291 Yes. There is a video log on Project Lazarus in the Cerberus Base basically saying the helmet kept Shepard's brain intact.
Yes it said the helmet was intact and had protected the brain for all the good that would do. I believe it also goes on to say operative Lawson would be taking over project Lazurus from now on.
So if there can be two helmets, there can be three
All three names of the moon's are indigenous Australian tribal names.
Uluru is the giant rock in the middle of Australia said to be a spearhead thrown from space.
Wandjina (Wonjinna) is traditional spirit creature
Baiame is an ancient creation father not quite like a god but similar.
Interesting piece of tidbit there!
@@MrHulthen I'm indigenous and I love that planet.
Hmm 🤔 creation father..? Maybe a being / Inussanon somehow helps Shepherd survive?
@@raklibra Alchera is one of the words for our creation period called the "dreaming" which is hard to translate. So imagine if the afterlife doesn't exist because it already happened and then the spirit world became the physical world that was "the dreaming" so when you die your soul stays here in the physical world. So there's some symbolism accidental or not. 🙂
Great theory. I think the possibility that the reason the helmets don't match is because Shepard had the newer helmet for 2 games so it's more iconic to the franchise so they went with that.
However, we know Shepard's body wasn't left on that planet and the Reapers know this aswell as Liara. Why return there? We know cloning Shepard isn't the best idea as all of Shepards memories from ME3 wouldn't be there.
My only last ditch explanation is maybe Liara found a way to transmit memories to Shepard because she was allowed to study the memory shard from Javik and SOMEHOW found a way of pulling back some of Shepards memories from people and places he/she's been? Maybe to loosely rebuild Shepard's conscious in a new cloned body? Maybe that's a big theme for the new game?? All massive speculation.
True, it might be a "recognition" type of deal where they knew most people associate the N7 piece with the helmet
@@MrHulthen tbh I didn't even realise the OG helmet didn't have the N7 insignia either. Considering that whole trailer looks almost like a dream sequence, I think we can forgive them for using a slightly out of canon placement of something to make the trailer work.
@@MrHulthen I've always thought that scene was a flashback type scene to Liara looking for/finding Shepard's body after the SR-1 crashed. She tells us that she saved our body from the Shadow Broker and handed it over to Cerberus, and as she was on board during the attack, she would know exactly where to search to find it first.
@@SevCaswell that would have made sense but there are dead reapers
@@likeasaltydog there are plenty of dead reapers from previous cycles lying around, so it is not impossible that there were dead reapers on the world the normandy wreakage crashed on. We don't get to explore much of that ice planet.
Sheep would have multiple helmets, even suits. If he/she was wearing the enviro-helmet, the standard ‘boots on the ground’ helmet would still be in Sheps locker or wherever he kept it in his cabin (which he did; ME3 Shep was performing maintenance on his helmet in his cabin when Liara came in to speak to him after Plaven, I believe) I believe you are on to something, amigo. That’s why I enjoy your vids. You get the gears in my head spinning. Also, it would be amazing to see more races emerge from hiding after the destruction of the Reapers. The Yahg are still around, the avian species, etc. The possibilities are endless. Thanks for the vid.
I have always interpreted that they are the same helmet, and that you just attach the mouthpiece plate thing to seal the helmet.
This is amazing, I actually had the same theory about Alcherra a few weeks ago, I was playing ME2 and when I got to Alcherra I thought to myself, hey this looks almost exactly like the planet in the trailer, I was waiting for you to make a video out of this theory.
So for me it is possible that Shepard maybe after waking up from the probable crash land he/she had, then found a way to venture to that planet, specially because the Normandy SR1 crashed there, maybe trying to get resources, or somewhere familiar to stay, and like you said, maybe The Inusannon, after realizing the threat of the Reapers has finished, they finally traveled beyond the planet they we're hiding on, with a probability of exploring Alcherra finding Shepard alive and taking him with them.
Maybe there is a probability that Shepard made an alliance with the Inusannon where he/she helps them rebuild in exchange for helping him find the crew, and a way back home
it's an interesting theory, and it might not be to far fetched, it's actually very plausible
Kepp up with the amazing work you're doing Mrhulthen!
You get shepards old helmet when you go back for the dog tags
Out of all the theories this one makes pretty much the most sense and thank you for the link I'm definitely checking that out 😎🤙
this maybe a bit of a strech but what if we are following Liara to where she found Shepard's body? makes sense we are picking up a part of N7 helmet
That's not where she found the body though. SHE found it being carried around by Shadow Broker thugs on a remote Station.
@@TheRevanchists right forgot about that
@@nathanvosburgh718 There are also multiple dead Reapers, which were nowhere to be found on Alcherra in ME2. This is obviously after ME3 and another point: Shepard needed helmet to survive out there, which means Liara would need something like that as well to breathe. But in the trailer only one with a helmet seems to be that Ryder look alike in the distance, which means that local atmosphere is breathable. It really looks like Alcherra, but I don't think it is.
@@TheRevanchists Doesnt mean she couldnt have visited the planet before she got that lead...
@@AdulAhmad68 She finds the helmet part on a snow covered Reaper corpse, so it must be after the Reaper war.
Ah, we can find our helmet in ME2.
I had a similar idea (just with finding shep in the ruins of the citadel (alive or dead depending on the ending ))
That would make sense, but since Earth only has 1 moon it doesn't seem very likely :p
@@MrHulthen I mean maybe they were investigating something else(Liara got maybe a mission from shep or another superior to investigate it)
@@MrHulthen have the 3 celestial bodies been confirmed as moons, or could they be 3 planets in conjunction?
Since the sun is viewable breaking over the event horizon it might be the moon with Mercury and Venus in alignment. Definitely doest look like Mars, Jupiter or Uranus. Unfortunately they used alot of shadow, and light reflection to disguise the 3 objects.
The view could be of Earth taken from the direction coming into the system after passing Mars. With a sun breaking over the event horizon it puts the planet your landing on totally in shadow, as well as the moon the closest object to Earth, with Venus the next bright object and bright Mercury inline with the breaking sun. Unfortunately theres no real way to tell.
Honestly, I'm suprised. The first time I've watched the trailer I recognized Shepard's next-gen N7 helmet piece right away (thought everybody else did also, so don't take this the wrong way). Also; I'm not entirely sure it belongs to Shepard. Remember that Shepard was the N7 Operator, BUT there was a whole lot bunch of badasses (James Vega included) within N7 Spec Ops. Maybe devs are just playing with fans' nostalgia and the next main character is gonna be another N7 agent. And about Alchera: the "breather issue" so I guess maybe it's another planet or maybe the nights require you wearing the helmet because you'd freeze to death, but daylight time is relatively safe.
You don't need a helmet because of the cold(-22 Celsius is chilly, but not lethal if you dress warm), you need it because the atmosphere is methane and ammonia.
Similar to what another comment had said, its possible that the helmet was in storage (as you have the option for multiple helmets in ME2) and was destroyed during the crash. Possibly from a helmet with a n7 logo rather then his "battle" one which is lacking that mark
Has anyone touched the theory that Shepard could survive 600 years because the Lazarus Proyect still active within him/her?
The Lazarus Project didn't extend Shepard's lifespan, it was literally a total reconstruction of Shepard from the ground up. Aging would still be an effect, especially since Cerberus didn't just invent ever-lasting human cells.
Yeah but remember Jacob said he is the same but with a few new extra bits. He never specified what those specific bits were.
We do know that Shepards tissue is a combination of organic and some kind of super biosynthetic material so maybe it’s not impossible that Shepards aging was drastically slowed. But it’s hard to say.
If we cannot breath on Alcherra (helmet...), Why Liara doesn't wear a helmet ?
Gotta give MrHulthen props on these theory videos, they’re well thought out and very thorough. I enjoy!
Maybe its Earth. The citadel crashes on earth after the severe damage from the weapon firing. It would mess up the atmosphere. Explains all the Reapers.
I love these theory videos.Keep them coming MrHulthen.
I think everyone got so used to Shepard's new helmet... including the Bioware devs... that they just forgot and it's as simple as that.
Yep. The simplest explanation is usually the accurate one :p
For me:
1) BioWare has a big habit of retconnecting old lore that they dont like or doesnt fit their narrative in the new game
2) I looked closely what planet it could be AND the final planet where Joker "lands" the Normandy after running away from the crucible blast - it has also multiple moons; the planet where is the "star gazer" also has multiple moons, its icy in the star gazer scene and Normandy crew lands there. (the only problem there is that if you have enough war assets, Joker will take off again BUT if you dont, Joker starts a colony there which has tales of commander Shepard AND since Liara is really hard to kill, she could be there BUT how Shepard got there ??)
=> I think they will simply retcon the armor having N7 pieces and say that it was design oversight (or wont comment on it at all) and roll with Alchera.
They don't recon alot foh
I tend to just let the MEHEM mod do the trick for me and not think about this too hard
they can’t be bad as fucking Netherrealm, not only do they retcon pretty much everything and for no good reason, they can’t even be fucking consistent with their retcons for one game
What a pleasure to have theory on Mass effect 4/5!
I find that what you say and very interesting in relation to the concept art with Eingana, and the planet Alcherra that we see in the trailer could be exact it would allow us to discover other planets and to get closer to the mysteries that the Milky Way still has a lot to offer us, and maybe bring back our favorite Shepard.
Thank you MrHulten for this excellent video continue I love it!
I think this one is one of the top 5 Theories made by you so far and makes a lot of sense at least for me it feels more real and possible then many Theories out there also 1 more thing that could heave been added to the video is what Javick says on the normandy to shepard if you talk with him enough times about the Inusannon, i don't remember exacly what he said, but i am sure he talked about them.
The future feels great for ME and i can't wait for more official information on the next title.
Keep up the awesome work MrHulthen.
Your ability to find information regardless of whether theories are right or not is impressive. Love the content.
To play devils advocate, I guess you could argue they added the N7 logo so everyone can notice what part that was in the trailer, they could simply retcon previous games by saying they were not "HD enough" to see the logo but in the new "HD universe" the logo was always there
Hehe yeah it would be a reasonable excuse 😂
Why does everyone think that Shepard only had one helmet, the one she wore during the Collector attack on the Normandy? Who only has one helmet? I imagine the quartermaster on the Normandy kept several spares for Shepard, as she was always coming back from missions with banged up equipment. Shepard found one of her old helmets intact on Alcherra, and it is highly unlikely that it is the one she was wearing when she landed on Alcherra.
_Assuming she ever did actually land on Alcherra._ There is a lot about the Lazarus Project that is kind of stupid, it was clearly a narrative device used to create a game effect, and they really didn't think it through. They have an opportunity to recontextualize the events surrounding the Lazarus Project to make the whole thing way cooler in retrospect, and I hope they do. I think that it makes more sense that Cerberus had some kind of foreknowledge of the Collector attack, and swooped in and snatched Shepard as she was falling toward Alcherra, after she 'flatlines' but before real brain death could occur.
You can pick up the helmet during your visit to the planet in ME2.
The biggest issues I have with the theory are we heard a recording or data pad entry that when they were rebuilding Shepard in M2 that the helmet was intact, and protected Shepard brain for whatever good that would do. It was in either M2 the station attack and our awakening or M3 at the Cerberus Headquarters. So the helmet piece might be from the recovered helmet if it's the crash site. Liara wasnt wearing a mask so it had to be a breathable atmosphere, and it wasnt when we visited the crash site. We were on the citadel when we destroyed the reapers, and its confirmed as a dead reaper shes walking up, with indoctrination a thing even when dead I think that leaves out the crash site since they might still have the ability to indoctrinate if they were from an earlier fight, also there were no acknowledged dead reapers at the crash site when we visited. If there were dead Reapers at the crash site we wouldnt have had to go looking for an IFF, or gone to the collector ship. It might be Earth since the majority of the reapers had gone there to protect the Citadel from the Alliance and the device, so dead Reapers in orbit would have rained down on the planet, maybe that massive wave of power shunted thru the relays finally burnt out the Reapers totally, including the indoctrination aspect. Than theres the fact our armor was literally blown off when we fought at the beam in London to get onto the Citadel, and we went up with no helmet at all, and a very crispy under uniform. But I believe that in the area we landed in there was a Keeper sorting parts or bodies that had a N7 helmet held up as we walked by it. I think its Earth not the crash site.
yeah I think it's earth too and the teaser is just a bunch of images put together without much sense. the three moons could be something not related with Liara finding the helmet piece and it's possible they used the helmet piece as a way to tease the presence of Shepard in the game in some capacity without much thought about the details like the fact Shep wasn't wearing an helmet when she/he arrived at the beam.
We have no idea how the massive release of the power thru the relays and Citadel affected Earth. We literally wiped out a system by destroying the Batarrian relay. For all we know we plunged Earth into a nuclear winter. Indoctrination was occurring with inert or dead Reapers or artifacts so the Reaper corpses are more likely to be from the final fight and totally inactive because we destroyed them, controlled them and they are hibernating, or now a living hybrid and have a lifecycle from synthesis.
@@girlinvt this idea of a destroyed earth is compatible with that leak in the description of the poster on the official site where they said something like "in a destroyed earth Shepard and the survivors..." that was then cancelled. I must say I don't like the idea because it would be a sort of defeat for Shepard because it would mean she/he didn't manage to save earth.
@@littlemouse7066 one would have to believe unleashing the amount of power they did with the Citadel and relays would have to be devastating to Earth because it was so close, 60 miles or so away. As I said destroying the Batarrian relay wiped out the Batarrian system. At the very least it might send the planet into an ice age. Depending on your endgame choice you could have the reapers help, they are destroyed totally or we are now all a synthetic hybrid. I really think we are coming into the Milkyway galaxy from outside, possibly from Andromeda based on the trailer. The simple fact the radio messages we hear thru out the trailer are the Earths oldest being heard first than more recent and timeline current the closer to your destination. That's the way they would be heard if your traveling towards Earth from outside our system, they even have a scene that looks like we go through the Kuiper belt thats only around 30 au from Earth and than we see the massive battlefield debris field, it even looks like we pass thru the burned out destroyed hulk of the Citadel. It's the very last scene that I question the most and that when Liara looks at the shuttle and the group standing by it. The shuttle doesn't look Alliance issue, it looks Angaran. Theres also the fact theres a large planet hanging over that shuttle, I didnt notice that at first until I watched it again today.
@@girlinvt It would be possible it's the point of view of the Normandy crew returning from the planet they crashed on at the end of ME3 and Liara was on board but that strange looking shuttle doesn't add up. I'm starting to think the teaser is a bit of a mess and maybe we shouldn't give it so much importance.
Great theorizing! I too felt Liara was on the planet Alchera. If we do go to Eingana for ME4 I hope Javic is still alive and he and Liara can be on the same exploratory mission. I would give anything for Liara to rib Javic when he finds out his race's biotics were the result of gene manipulation by his Innosannan Gods. I'm going with trailer artists forgot, too.
If not for the dead reaper, I would say this is aftercrash and Liara is searching for Shepard's body to give it to Cerberus for the Lazarus project. Nevertheless, I love your theories! And appreciate the good lore👍
Maybe she's looking for another N7 soldier? Shepard's not the only one.
I just had this idea that Aria could be in Mass Effect 4 too
A Prothean survived, so why not the other races? I'd love if Javik stuck around for the next game and wouldn't mind meeting some other old races. I think that given the reaper's fascination with Shepard (they sent the collectors after all) it makes sense they would send one or 2 to Alchera to see if they could find something in the wreckage to help them stop Shep. I expect the helmet was an oversight, but who knows.
If the Inusannon were ostensibly extirpated in the cycle before the Protheans, then they could easily survive another 100,000 years if they had enough of a viable population that could hunker down on a backwater planet. Whether they could preserve anything of their culture and history is another matter, but I imagine watching the next two Reaper cycles (assuming they had some capacity to know what's happening offworld) would give them incentive to keep hiding out.
Javik wasnt the only example of a race believed to be extinct to survive. Leviathan and other of that race survived in hiding for upwards of a million years, since its acknowledged that Harbinger was the very first Reaper created from the reaping of the race known as Leviathan.
Brilliant theories Mr Hulten, worthy of a swede🤟🙂👍 My question is, why or how could Shepard end up on Ultera after the destruction of the reapers. He was seriously injured. But, Shepard could be one of the figures Liara looks at, at the end of the trailer, meaning some time has passed and he has recovered and joined up for a new mission, as you point to.
I don't think we should take the trailer as strictly canonical but rather artistically suggestive. It's a very early work proceeding a TON of dev work that's still ongoing. So just because the N7-logo is missing on Shep's helmet I wouldn't consider that a deal breaker. Liara could still go to Alchera to look up something from Shep's past.
i'd like to think Shepard had multiple helmets. we know the Normandy crash site mission is about finding the dog tags of the members that died and returning them to the family members to give them closure after those two years. but when we find the helmet, Shepard keeps it in their room on the Normandy. if it was another member, they would most likely give it back to the alliance so that it can be given to the family of the person that died
Shepard also was most likely still wearing their helmet when they body was find since it's mentioned in the video log on cerberus that the only reason their brain was able to survive was due to their helmet keeping it intact. maybe that piece liara picks up did come off the helmet. we know she was able to do some digging around for a while and recover shepard's dogtags and give then back at the end of the shadow broker dlc. but not only that she was able able to recover some of their armor and keep it in her apartment. who's to say she didn't do the same for the n7 helmet piece.
i know the shadow broker was the one to find shepard's body but i believe it was never mentioned how or where he found their body (please correct me if i'm wrong and it is actually mentioned somewhere) maybe shepard did land on that planet when they died and the shadow broker just left the stuff belonging to them and he was only interested in the body itself.
regardless of what that planet actually is and why liara is there picking up that bit of n7 helmet piece, i'm still excited to see where it's going in the next game. looking forward to the next n7 day to see what other clues/hits we'll get
Finding an old crashed ship on an icy, deserted planet has cool visuals, so they reused this same general idea twice, independently from each other.
The first planet is not special at all, so it doesn’t make much sense to reuse the exact same location. It would be weird if Liara would focus on finding some old relic from long time ago, which was ignored all along. Rather she looks for the remainings of ship which crashed during the final battle.
It just makes way more sense to connect the story to the final Reaper battle, instead of events from the beginning of ME2.
I think the N7 piece is nothing more than the devs hypping mass effect fans up
Recall Legion's explanations as to how he followed Shepard. His last stop was based on discovering that the trail had gone cold. This means that his N7 chunk had to be found there. Yet, Shepard's armor had remained whole throughout (As he lost his air through pincushion penetrations!) and this was why I remain mystified about Legion's equipage. The fact is that his helmet had retained integrity (During his resurrection the one voice says that his helmet had kept his head together, the only reason they had a chance to regenerate him.) voids the destruction into pieces explanations.
Conundrums abound!
There is a ton of things I want to see in this next ME but the most important aspect I want is a connection between the Milky way & the Andromeda Galaxy.
I feel like the N7 piece was just a nod to Sheperd but not actually his. After all, it is just a CGI teaser trailer which did not even reveal the actual name of the next game. But if the same scene makes it into the next trailer, then I can see it belonging to someone like Sheperd due to the scene being used more than once which puts emphasis on the N7 piece.
I thought about this being the location as soon as i first saw that trailer, it instantly clicked in my head that this has to be the planet where Sheppard crashed. It just made sense
I never considered this but this is nifty!
You need a breathing helmet and looks like Liara doesnt need one?
It could be that Shep had more than one helmet. The one he was wearing during the cinematic had that air supply pipe out the back, but the ones we'd see him wear in ME1 did not.
That helmet insignia matches perfectly with the helmet on the main menu of the legendary edition launcher.
When you cycle between games the visor on the helmet changes colors but the nothing else does. Perhaps indicating this is maybe canonically what the helmet shepherd carries through all three games looks like.
Might be a stretch, but I am personally under the impression that Alchera has an alright chance to be where Shepherd lost that helmet.
I also believe there is a fairly good chance the cinematic team either didn’t know or didn’t care about the small detail that the insignia wasn’t in the Mass Effect two intro.
The biggest hole to this theory to me is why two reapers would even be on this planet for the reasons you mentioned, especially so close to each other as if the crash site was around a heavily densified area. Which it clearly wasn’t.
(also I love your vid‘s, gets me excited, keep crafting theories!)
That bunker looks like the one from Tuchunka. whenever you went there in ME2. and given what Eve said in ME3 while you're in the old city to cure the krogan about the planet wasn't always like that.
Since the last known location of Shepard was Citadel which is by the time of ME3 ending was orbiting EARTH. So if Shep survived and some reaper remnant falling, most likely they will be dropped around Earth Sphere. And from trailer most likely Liara is on Arctic Area. This scenario also making sense with how Shep helmet is having N7 logo as it was the latest Shep helmet on ME3 & not the old non logo one as we already found that in Alchera mission..but the 3 moon though, that's hard to explain
I feel that having survived final battle (it would be cruel if BioWare have just placed that scene where she/he takes breath just to conclude that Shep dies waiting for a rescue), the commander would not be able just to live a normal live and rest for long. Shepard would just throw her/himself into another mission, partially because it was something she/he did her all life, additionally as a way to cope with PTSD (dream in ME3 point on that) and survivor guilt. I love the idea of searching for Shep on a swamp planet, kind of searching for Yoda. Your analysis is great as always, hope that ME4/5 developers would share your love for the games and would also thinks as deeply as you on their content. Hope we will know more from BioWare soon.
I'm currently replaying ME2 for the 1000th time, actually for the first time after release of this trailer...and just as I was walking around the Normandy crash site and picked up the helmet, I got the exactly same idea that you had and immediately stopped everything to go search the internet if someone else came up with this idea...of course the first result was this video :D But to the theory as I see it:
- After seeing the info you brought up from the planet description, I'm highly convinced that this is indeed Alchera. Your reasoing behing the Reapers going there because of Shepard also does make sense.
- N7 helmet - the fact that the ME2 helmet didn't had the logo could indeed be just a oversight. Afterall, it is unlikely that it could be a piece of Shepards helmet from ME3 ending, as someone already stated in the comments, his/her armor got completely destroyed during the final run. Also to the N7 logo - I've been toying with a theory idea in my head for some time about how could Shepards N7 helmet get to a different planet than Earth because of what happened at the end of ME3. One of my ideas is that it doesn't have to be right after ME3 ending. Explanation: Shepard somehow survives ME3 ending (insert a lore-friendly story writting element in order to explain that) -> Shepard recovers from injuries -> for some reason (again, insert a story reason for that) he/she goes to Alchera with a NEW ARMOR with the N7 logo -> something goes wrong on Alchera and he/she looses the piece of N7 helmet -> Liara later finds it (again, insert story reason for why she didn't come with Shepard in the first place) -> story goes on from there. I know it's a little far-fetched, but I like playing with these theories in my head all the time, just like you :D
- Liara breathing - my idea is that she could simply be using biotics in order to shield herself from the enviroment. That could be a simple lore-friendly explanation for it.
- Reapers coming to Alchera during the war (or to be specific, to the Amada system in the first place) might very well be the facts you brought up about Eingana.
It took a lot just to get the attention of one capital ship reaper to appear somewhere with low population (I.E. the Leviathan of dis). To see 2 capital ship reapers ought to mean this planet was more than just simply a priority planet for the Reapers. So it's possible that a former Apex race was inhabiting Alchera and that could be why two capital ship reapers were there. Would be kind of neat if we are following an investigation from Commander Shepard and those to big reaper ships have been there for more than a few cycles time.
I honestly hope it's not Alcherra. Because that's a serious bit of WreckCon. But hey, is it worse than what Bioware did to Anders in DA2? Probably not. So I won't rule it out.
N7 logo helmet piece could be an oversight. But then again, it could be a tie end to mass effect Andromeda N7 helmet.
Don't forget about ME3 Citadel plot - Cerberus got several Shepard clones. May be one of them stored in some stasis pod.
I've always thought that the snowy planet was the one the SR-1 crashed on, and what we are seeing is Liara finding Shep's body before handing it over to Cerberus for the Lazarus project. She tells us she saved Shepard's body from the Shadow Broker but not how, and as she was there she would know exactly which planet to go to to look for it.
If the Innusannon had colonised the system then it makes total sense for dead Reapers to be there, as I am sure that Humans were not the only species to have managed to kill a few during their harvesting cycles. And 100,000 years is peanuts in geological time, so the planet would not have changed much to destroy the corpses.
I really want Shepard to be alive. I want it to be true and I want my relationships to have a conclusion. Even if it has connections to Andromeda.
If that piece of helmet is not Shepard's it would mean they are trolling us and I don't think it would be healthy for Bioware to do that after all the criticism they got for Andromeda (most of it undeserved) and Anthem. So I think it would basically be a suicide for them to fool us on this. the rest can be what ever you can imagine in terms of storyline.
Yeah they'll probably play it safe
I have actually seen the lithograph for Mass Effect 4/5, and saw at the bottom, zoomed in at a high definition format, and saw what seem to be faces of aliens and characters that could be either introduced or reintroduced in the game.
Very nice catch about the planet. It could also be that this cinematic is not from the start of the game but something that happens at a later point, on that planet. Maybe Shepard survived (i.e. perfect Destroy ending) and for some reason he went to this planet on his way to somewhere else and Liara is following the breadcrumbs, in order to find him? It could be an interesting idea to play both sides of this storyline, if such a theory is true. On the one hand we could be playing Shepard who, for some reason, is searching for something alone in the Milky Way and on the other hand we play the LI and their squad who follows the clues and tries to catch up.
i think that this is possibly somewhere else but it is a cool thought to think about
The whole trailer with Liara could also just be a flash back of when she found Shep for Cerberus. She could have been there with her drell friend and other crew, And maybe this is only a small snippet of her telling Sheps story to someone. And maybe the dead reapers were there but no one knew what they were or they added those for us to speculate over
This is a brilliant theory, and would be awesome for ME4. No question that this is Alcherra, and I think the N7 logo was added to the trailer to point to Shepard being in the next game, in some way
very good and well explained video, 🙂👏💯👍 like you said it might be Shepard's helmet, or might not be, but something that could be is that possibly part of Shepard may be on the ice planet and liara might be looking for part of him to bring him back in a way like Cerberus did, only but this time like a clone because there might be possible problems with the species of the tropical planet.
Thanks for the theory video! I honestly look at this as two options. 1. They're retconning the insignia on the helmet and making it a plausible reason as to why she finds it buried in the snow. Possibly also reconning the fact the planet isn't oxygen supporting as you see 3 other people in the background. Looks like a Human in the middle, Salarian on the left and I think that's Turian armor on the right. Not 100% sure obviously, but the silhouettes match in my eyes haha and it doesn't look like they're not wearing helmets either. Maybe they're searching for some sort of remnants of Shepard for another resurrection like in ME2? Possibly Liara has put this team together to hunt for said Shepard stuff. Wouldn't be completely out of the question tbh. Wouldn't be the most original concept either, but why not?
Option 2? Maybe they're pulling a fast one on us all with this teaser and it has absolutely nothing to do with the next game. They're just showing us the floating debris and Liara for no other reason than to say it's going to be rooted in the original Mass Effect series in the Milky Way Galaxy and not Andromeda LOL. Regardless, I CANNOT WAIT for the next chapter in the Mass Effect saga 🙂
Thanks again for the video!
I'm wondering if Shepard might've latched onto a reaper during the energy blast, and that's what the debris was in the ending. It would be great if they gave you the option to pick different outcomes at the start of the game like ME2, that way you could still have your trilogy story intact.
Everytime I see one of your videos I get the itch to replay legendary edition again.
If it is in fact Alchera in the trailer, one reason why Liara isn’t wearing a helmet could be simply for cosmetic reasons. Like in the game, she would need a helmet, but maybe they just removed it for the trailer so we could actually see her face and be able to recognize her for the reveal.
There's a new option for mass effect 5 during me3's priority: thessia the prothean vi talks about a pattern but all conflicts, evolutionary paths and so forth happen in Cycles and the reapers are a product of that cycle not its master. So the next mass effect game could have the cycles master as the enemy. If we choose the control or sync paths then the reapers would be the first line of defence and they are holding the line while we find a way to stop them. This is a way for there to be dead reapers in the trailer without forcing that ending on everyone.
I think the N7 helmet isn't from ME1 but may be ME3.And (theorizing here) after the crucible deployment Shepard or some trace of him ended up on a reaper crashing into that planet... Or during the race to the beam after Harbinger decimated the raiding force took a piece of Shepard's helmet (stretching) and that dead reaper could be Harbinger itself....
Bioware should hire you to do lore stuff, you're the best!
It still could be a piece of N7 helmet on the planet Shepard died in beginning of ME2 because it looks the helmet you get part of your N7 armor and helmet you get in ME2 and ME3 after you came back from being dead. Could be a reference to ME2 and Shepard thought to be dead but not . Maybe it broke off and got flung through a mass relay before or during the ending of ME3 as debris in space and landed on the same planet where Shepard died in ME2 or something happen that caused Shepard helmet to broke off or to remove by Shepard while on the planet for some reason between ME3 and ME4/5.
I think it's just part of one of the many spare helmets Shepard had in their gear locker on the Normandy.
Liara searching for Sheppard who is on some mysterious quest to find more forgotten species such as the Leviathans would be an interesting start to the game. Where we play as Liara, while her friends, & family {maybe a few little blue babies, since she did say Asari can use past encounters to procreate} try to convince her that Sheppard is dead. Yet as the Shadow Broker she tends to knows more of recent events, than anyone else in the galaxy. Therefore, say Sheppard keeps an old promise & sent up a figurative flare for her to see & find him. As for timeline, it would be very interesting to advance it a couple decades at least, & for Sheppard it was a blip in time as being so close to the exploding Catalyst had a temporal effect of flinging him forward in time & space. Because really, how does he go from orbit to breathing again on the ground? 😅
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I don't think it's the same planet, because it's stated in the Shadow broker DLC that Liara is the one used shadow broker resources to find his body on Alchera to begin with, then give it over to Cerberus in hopes they could bring Shep back. Furthermore, as per the perfect ending cutscene with the breath. It looks like there is no snow wherever shep is, which could be earth if the citadel crashed down, except the three moons kinda hurts that theory.
I think it's most likely that it's an oversight from people who weren't part of the OG dev team.
The helmet is from the v2 N7 design from ME 2. It's not an oversight.
It is possible that the entire trailer is a metaphor. Let's be honest, Liara would do just about anything for Shepard. Walking up the side of a dead Reaper in a blinding snow storm, could be a metaphor for that. Finding the N7 would be one for Shepard, of course. Now rewinding to the beginning of the trailer. Watching Andromeda fade into the background is about returning the story to the Milky Way. The sound bites, all having to do with space firsts (Man on the moon, John Glenn and what I think is a reference to First Contact War) could be a metaphor for this being the first chapter of a new story. The planet an its moons could be representative of all the planets Shepard visited in her/his travels or just a red herring.
Nice theory. But one little extra caveat:
If Alchera is inhospitable, why isn’t Liara wearing at least a breathing mask? Shepard did wear full gear because of the planets temperatures and atmosphere.
i imagine it was more likely an oversight by the me2 prologue, but it could also be that they just Decided to put the N7 on the helmet so it would be easily recognizable and continuity be damned its just a trailer
I'm still convinced Liara is looking over at shepard in the distance when she picks up the N7 armour. I just don't get why she would look at that and smile, sure she could be remembering them and the good times but the broken piece of armour kind of symbolises their death rather than their life at least to me. If they wanted something for her to smile about perhaps an old photo of shepard would suffice.
Also, I still believe that the trailer wasn't meant to do much besides create hype which it has done very well, so the details of the trailer could be meaningless in the end, no one can say for sure until we get more information
I always wondered if Shepard could be bought back just like how Cerberus did in ME2, maybe it's a flashback when liara found Shepard, or maybe liara went back to that planet for a similar mission.
You made a pretty clear case that it's Alchera. Occam's razor.
In the trailer it seems that the planet atmosphere is breathable while Shepard wears a helmet while being on that planet which only happens if the air is not breathable.
The N7 bit is on the surface, not burried at all. Recent event
it also looks like she disconnects it from something, probably a helmet, but I feel like it's a chest piece because it looks bigger. Though I think that's just an illusion.
Do we have any idea of when this may come out?
Maybe the next mainline Mass effect game is gonna be about Liara and the remaining Normandy crew looking for a way to revive Shepard
If destroy is going to be the cannon ending, it makes sense that the dead reapers would need to be stored somewhere. Liara may be searching a reaper graveyard. Don't forget than the clone Sheppard could still be out there somewhere. What if there was another clone? or that we played with a clone in ME2 & ME3 and the original Sheppard is in a cryo unit waiting to be found... just a theory.
I think this is earth, that was forced into an ice age, after the reapers extinction event.
Me: Wow, interesting theorie!
Also me: 7:38 "I F*cked with Aria!" '-'
Plot to offer: The planet is not Alchera, Destruction was chosen but Shepard did not "live." That is not Liara, but rather the distant offspring of Liara and Shepard who arrives in the Andromeda Galaxy some years after the events of the ME: Andromeda. This would suggest that life continues to be space fairing after the destruction and Liara's romance to be cannon. The presence of the "dead reapers" could suggest they were following the arks and were systematically "killed" as the crucible's matter hit them on the fringes of the milky way galaxy. This could also tie in with what Liam said about his car on its' way to Andromeda. There's much to hypothesize on until more information is attained.
On the planet you are speaking of if you look into the sky you can see a nebula or galaxy that looks strangely like the nebula in the teaser trailer ending. Maybe I am wrong.
I'm sure Shepard had more than one helmet on the Normandy.
If you couldn't tell that that was a Reaper Liara was walking on, there is one, in plain sight, in the background!!
I still like your theories, no matter how outlandish they may seem. I do think those two planets are interesting and could have traces of very ancient civilizations.
Imagine a primitive Group of Inusannon and Thoi'han living in that planet and they ate the decendants of the crew members that survived the ships crashing into the planet and the Reapers didn't harvest them because they were in a messed up planet stuck without any technology.
so as you've pointed out Shepard definitely has an N7 helmet with the N7 logos on it. just because she wasn't wearing it in that emergency situation doesn't mean it wasn't on the ship anywhere. also why wouldn't they have multiple suits of armor and as such multiple helmets? can't be grounded because of damage to a helmet... just use another one. I'm convinced this is Alcherra and one of many of Sheps helmets fell on the planet on the ship broke apart and spread out. even if it was an oversight by the cinematic people it can be easily explained away as not a mistake.
Remember that Liara originally found Shepard and brought the body to the Illusive Man. Where do you think she found it?
I’ve been saying this for a while!! I’m glad you seem to agree
I think its somewhere else. We dont even know if it is actually Shepards Helmet piece, he wasnt the only N7. I didnt think about the 3 moons, because I previously thought it could be Noveria. But I dont know how many moons Noveria has. It could have been another N7 that was killed fighting the Reapers, but Liara picks it up and remembers.
Conrad Verner is going to be the protagonist of the next Mass Effect. That’s who Liara is looking for. He’s the only hope to save humanity again.
If it is where Shep got spaced and all would this mean that ME 4/5 would be taking place in the 2 years between ME1 and ME2? Story of Liara looking for Shep's body and getting it to Cerberus. Maybee a story about Liara keeping it from the Shadow Broker?
I feel like that the N7 piece might be something just to tell the ME fans that the trilogy will continue, but it doesn’t mean anything in particular in the regards of Shepard.
Well - at least not in that trailer in particular , lol.