Jeff Pilson on the Joke that Pissed George Lynch Off During Tooth and Nail, "It went horribly awry"
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2024
- 2024 full in bloom interview with Dokken/Foreigner/The End Machine bassist Jeff Pilson. Jeff talks about the drama surrounding the recording of Dokken's 1984 album, Tooth and Nail, Tom Werman, George Lynch, Don Dokken, Roy Thomas Baker, Michael Wagener, and Geoff Workman.
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Pilson has NEVER sounded like a bitter,or petty person. He is articulate in interviews,and i believe anything he says about the past. 👍
Reading Werman’s book now, he said Jeff was the peacekeeper between Don and George, and later between Jason Bonham and Zakk Wylde on the Rockstar soundtrack
I never thought I’d know so much about the 80’s rock scene, thanks ‘full in bloom’. All these details make the songs new again in a way
I met Jeff Pilson at a restaurant one night. He was super cool. I had a ton of questions about Dio Strange Highways record that he played on. He answered them all and talked great about everyone he played with.
Under Lock & Key, a masterpiece
Yes it is love that album
"Don't Close Your Eyes"
Love these deep dives into the creation of the seminal records of eigties hard rock. Full in bloom asks the best questions and steers the discussion perfectly
Well said
He is a master. The Howard Stern of music interviews
I never bought a Dokken album but I love these stories and Pilson is great at relating them.
I never got into them till Back for the Attack. Wish I would of seen them in concert.
Working with Tom Werner , Geoff Workman & Roy Thomas Baker all on one record & it better be a hit !
Jeff Pilson is the most reasonable and accountable voice is this whole story. Bless him. I loved the album. It changed my life if I'm being honest. I just kept reading the album liners and asked myself who the hell is George Lynch -- he sounds amazing.
Thanks again
In 1984, I was 18 and was introduced to "Tooth and Nail" from two of my best buds (Marcos and "Pils")
I am still a big Dokken/Lynch fan.
RIP Marcos
Jeff is definitely the voice of reason.
This was the same crew that did Motley Crue ‘s Shout at the Devil (Crue’s last good album).
Excellent interview.. The music business surely is interesting..
Love these interviews. Thanks for sharing : )
😊🙃💚 JEFF.... WE LOVE YOU
YOU ARE Sooooo Honest..... You're the BEST‼️.....( I saw y'all on the Dio/Dokken tour in Houston.... Best Mementoes of my Youth‼️‼️💚🌄 Thank you✨
He wasn’t very honest when the prank blew up in his face
I always enjoy Jeff's interviews. He seems to give a good perspective without stepping on people, and admits to his own good and bad personal experiences.
Love the FIB interviewing style. Asking that one last, tough question. It's always the one the fans are wondering about. It's usually repelled by the artist for being on a touchy subject, but presented respectfully, and pivoted away from seamlessly. Love it
Another super cool interview! Love this so much! Thank you 🙏❤
Great, great interview, as always. Thank you!
As usual with Dokken, if you want the truth, go to Jeff.
Wow. This a great interview
It's cool hearing someone talk with total clarity no unnecessary cussing, his voice sounds a lot like Greg Macaroy
Tooth and Nail is in my top 5 favs Just a Great Album.. Turn On the Action Rocks.
Their best album hands down. Still my favorite and love the sound on that one. Very aggressive in a good way.
Jeff is great
Jeff is the professional player everyone wants to work with. The dudes in Foreigner now...that speaks to his work ethic.
I always loved George Lynch guitar tone on this album
I love Jeff. Absolute legend n the most honest interview you can get . Absolute respect ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Great job! 👍🏻
The next Dokken story I’d like to hear about is the “Bagel” fight in 1997.
I never had a great stereo but I never fully heard the bass in Dokken until Beast. I wonder if he was happy with the bass guitar level back then.
Is there a podcast version of Full in Bloom somewhere other than RUclips? I see there's one on Spotify, but the most recent episode is 2022. Love the show btw!
Producers should let their work speak for itself and keep their mouths shut… but Werman does have a book to sell.
Best Dokken album is Breaking the chains ...wonderful guitar tone and great vocal by Don....melodies and harmonies to die for.
I’ll always hold myself accountable for my part
Jeff Pilson ROCKS....
“Tooth and Nail” is such a classic hard rock/ heavy metal album. It’s too bad that they went so commercial and lost that edge. I couldn’t play in a band with people that I didn’t like or couldn’t work with.
Tooth and Nail was just as "commercial" as Under Lock and Key. What're you talking about? Not only that, but their heaviest album, Back for the Attack, came right after Under Lock and Key.
Awesomeness 🤘💀🤘
Tooth& Nail was my favorite production
Ah, like children. Rock 'n' Roll Children. And what an album.
I'm just saying I Love the band Dokken. I never saw them live but saw Lynch Mob in 91 And they were Rickin.
I disagree about distortion. The guitar on T&N souded PERFECT. It sounded lousy on Under Lock & Key.
Definitely HAD MORE ballz than Lock n Key...As good as "Lock" could've possibly BEEN that is......
So it was Geoff and Jeff after all.....interesting.
That's crazy because I think Back for the Attack was great even with the drug use. Hell maybe we wouldn't have gotten "Mr Scary"?
I always knew Pilson was the adult in the room
The distortion on George’s guitar work is fine on Tooth and Nail. ... Perhaps these guys should stop giving interviews. The more they talk, the more cheesy they come across as being.
Spot on.. it makes me realize everything I loved about the musicianship and music is a Lie after all these years. Like give a break. We loved this stuff and now they ruin it for me.
Great Album! Only Thing There Was Too much Echo & Reverb.
So Tom Werman ALSO said to Pilson (during Tooth n Nail vocal production) "HERE! Yeah , YOU DEAL WITH THIS A-HOLE/ GUY!" ( via DON DOKKEN) as well...🤭🤣.. Lol. JEFF PILSON 😎 , the VERY REASON, that we WERE able to get WHAT WE DID GET, MUSICALLY, from the band DOKKEN 😏. The moderator.....Thx again for the interview 🤘🔥🤘
Don & George hate one another.
I actually love Tooth and Nail because of the heaviness. Same with Breaking the Chains. Under Lock and Key was too commercial and for lack of a better of a term.. cute.
'Tooth and Nail' is my favorite Dokken record and the first one I bought. 'Under Lock and Key' is way over produced.
Don needs to sell the Dokken name and catalog to Jeff and George and they can get a good singer to carry on the great music. Instead of the carcass thats currently touring.
I agree. I saw Dokken 3 years ago with Jon Levin, and the guy is good at being an "80s hot licks" player, but he overplayed all the solos and adds nothing to the Dokken legacy. If anything, Reb Beach was the best guitarist Dokken ever had - and I'm including George when I say that. Reb is like Randy Rhoads. Theory, Tone, Composition and feeling. George just kinda sprays notes and squeals all over the fretboard and hopes something sounds good.
@@1970borntorun great point on the “hot licks” remark. He probably learned everything on the Lynch VHS lesson and went for it. I’d argue though that John Norum was probably the best guitar player, although technically not an official “Dokken” record but more of a solo record. Up From The Ashes is straight fire, and could be the best record Don ever did. Not to take away from Dons contributions to metal, because at one time he had a super smooth voice, strong, and great vibrato, similar to James Labrie. Very similar. But today the songs should be treated with dignity and presented in a way that doesn’t leave the audience questioning WTF was that shit, after a show. Sell the catalog and name, find a new singer and present the songs with dignity.
@@SavDog262- Or just quit (STOP TOURING) 🛑 altogether and call it a day. It’s even sadder when great bands don’t know when to just stop and they only keep touring to milk revenue. That’s the best way to honor the legacy and then everyone is free to go out and just create something new. Lynch and Pilson have obviously been doing just that with the End Machine! 👍
Thanks, I’ll have to check out the end machine.
Always thought Back for the Attack had not only the best sound overall, but Lynch's best guitar sound, plus the songs were killer. T & N would be next for me, with L & K third. L&K always sounded overproduced; I know they had hits with the album, but it paled to BftA & T&N.
Also interesting that Lynch wasn't the devil that Weman & Don made him out to be. Imagine that! In fact, Weman's recollections sound almost as conflated as Don's do; yeah, he was credited with amazing albums, but in interviews he didn't come across as trustworthy.
Yep, BFTA FTW, great album all around. I love when the guitar comes on "Lost Behind the Wall".
I thought Tooth and Nail was one of there best albums even with the production style which IMO added to that album
I still do not "love" the production value (sound/tone) of both Breakin' the Chains and Tooth & Nail. I always felt like Elektra's early 80s records had a "quality control" issue. Dokken been a band what? 5-7 years at this point and didn't have a decent "sounding" record till 1985? They are a better band than that, but I get it.
Shout at the Devil sounds nothing like Tooth and Nail
Lynch used Randall amos on that record and they sound like crap. he went back to marshall on Under Lock n Key
Killer brother
Wow…the more interviews I hear, with Dokken members, the more I believe Don’s accounts of why and how the band’s problems started and fucked up their careers. That was a bullshit way to treat your fucking producer!
They made Tom sound geigh with the edits and George didn't like geighs
I thought most of the songs sounded great. I wonder if there was opportunity to remix (albeit everyone is deaf now and they would compress the daylights out of the songs).
It's funny. Steve Porcaro of Toto swears by Geoff Workman. But I have just never liked any of the work he did on albums. Tom Werman had a great engineer in Gary Ladinsky, which is why I say the work George Martin & Geoff Emerick did on Cheap Trick's All Shook Up makes that album sound dull and listless compared to everything that came before it. Jack Douglas OR Tom Werman. And they lost their bassist, and they lost all the momentum Budokan / Police had given them.
But Geoff Workman. Work he does clips and distorts. I hear sibilance on the albums he engineered. They're just not well recorded OR the final mix is effected by what he does after the button is pushed. They sound boxy and overdriven. It's not Werman making Tooth and Nail "funny", it's Geoff Workman.
I always thought Dokken sucked!
I don’t think these albums aged that well. Ratt I loved everything guitar tone even vocals (even though he’s not some great singer) the sound production made him. But I don’t listen to invasion privacy anymore. Not that I wouldn’t listen, sometimes crosses my mind maybe once a year, decide not to listen.
lol no one cares about tom. Never spoken about.
Correction.. no one cares about your ignorant opinions
Correction.. no one cares about your ignorant opinions
Correction.. no one cares about your ignorant opinions
Correction.. no one cares about your ignorant opinions
Correction.. no one cares about your ignorant opinions
I was a Dokken fan from “Breaking The Chains” but “Shout at the Devil” blows away “Tooth and Nail.”
It's great as a huge motley crue fan and they were up to about 4 years ago I totally disagree I think tooth and nail is the better album but I love both but dokken edges it out
Nothing Mick Mars did blew away anything George Lynch did.
@@whamsie4022 I love micks playing but you are absolutely rite George is on a different playing field than mick,like the minors and majors
Dokken was never a top level band..just a studio creation
How did I miss this? I'm subbed. Showed up tonight as I'm scrolling for things. Love this shit!
Thank you for saying something, @GuitarDudeXXX! The video got around 15,000 views in a day and then it seemed like RUclips just flatlined it. I couldn't figure out what happened. I thought this clip was a great piece to the Dokken puzzle. Anyhow, thanks again for commenting and letting me know. I'm glad it eventually showed up for you.
Glad i was 100% spot on with this guy. He is a snake in the grass. Causing all the trouble but coming off as mister innocent. Still think dream warriors was Dokken's weakest song.
what camera are you using?
4 sides to every story.