Jeff Pilson on Don Dokken's "MASSIVE" Drug Use, George Lynch, The End Machine, Foreigner - 2024
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- 2024 full in bloom interview with Dokken/Foreigner bassist Jeff Pilson. Jeff talks about Foreigner, The End Machine's New Album - The Quantum Phase, Black Swan, Revolution Saints, Don Dokken, drugs, George Lynch, Mick Brown, Steve Brown, Dio, Vivian Campbell, Vinny Appice, Aerosmith, & more.
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full in bloom Interview w/ Jeff Pilson PART 2:
• Jeff Pilson Slams Don ...
full in bloom Interview w/ Don Dokken on Money Issues, Drugs, & Mick Brown:
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George Lynch Fires Back at Don Dokken:
• George Lynch Fires Bac...
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#dokken #ronniejamesdio #aerosmith #georgelynch #viviancampbell
Jeff is the most honest man I have ever heard in the music business.
Cool he talked about the Dio tour as I saw Dokken open for Dio on Jeff's birthday (Feb 19th) in Saginaw MI on the Tooth and Nail tour. They were GREAT. From my memory, they played the entire album with the exception of Heartless Heart. and also Breaking the Chains. I used to memorize the best I could what bands played. On a side note, I saw that Dio tour twice- the first with Twisted Sister in Clarkston MI
SHOCKED to hear that 80s metal bands used cocaine. Who knew. 🙄
Back for the Attack is my absolute favorite Dokken album. For me, that is where George took the gloves off as a guitar player.
Tooth & Nail was great but you can tell in terms of the solos that the phrasing was a tad simpler & George even said early on he was still figuring things out. Back for the Attack’s solos by comparison were elite. The one for Heaven Sent still is blistering. Such a great tone, as well.
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Jeff Pilson's 'side of the story' in this interview I think is the closest to being the 'real story' of what happened with Dokken. He seems to be a credible person.
Back For The Attack is a great album ... I think it is them at their peak ...would have been hard to top it musically
Definitely has its moments, but could have been better, like Jeff said. Probably more compact in a way. ✌️
I agree, this was next level Dokken
Great interview. Jeff is a complete pro and possesses terrific technical knowledge and perspective of the business. He lived the fast lane, survived and prospered.
Pilson is just a working man's musician. Been to the top of the mountain and toiled everywhere in between. Such a level headed professional. Respect the hell out of this man.
The first Don Dokken album after Dokken broke up was fucking great. The first 2 Lynch Mob albums were awesome. We got cheated out of some awesome Dokken music for sure.
- yes, I agree first two Lynch Mob albums were bad ass. I never listened to the Don Dokken solo album.
@@debu9374Up From the Ashes - I recommend it, some good ones on there in my opinion.
Not a bad song on Up From the Ashes.
This sounds like alot of what inflicted Van Halen, It seems to be all fueled by drugs and egos, go figure, it was the 1980's, ....lol, makes you think as a fan how much incredible music we never got to hear because it was never made,...due to drugs and Ego's....Go figure...............
“We did a lot of cocaine”, I would never expect to hear that from any 80’s rock band. I wonder if there was a constant supply of young women too…..nah.
No. No women. Just concentrated on their music lol.
Where their is coke, their are hot women who live to party 😂
Yep. We called them "bag chasers". @@toddaldworth2272
Hot Purcy! Just a friendly little cat... meow!
Mother and Daughters! 80’s no social media! Too bash guys sexual stamina and then some
I saw a video were Don said he didn’t do drugs. Then I see an interview of George Lynch talking about them all doing lines off of Freddy’s blades on his glove during the filming of the Dream Warriors music video. What is there to be ashamed about it was the 80’s everyone was doing coke
And the coke was😊 much better
Its called holier than thou and being full of shit
I also remember George saying he was so high during the filming he could barely bust through the thin wall they made for when he starts his solo 😂
The best part of Dokken’s Unchained the Night video is Jeff’s banter with George while recording in the hotel room.
Scrotum Sound 😂
Deep knee bends.
Yeah! Compare THAT to "The DON," OVER in Germany showing OFF "HIS other house (castle)" and "HOW YOU like it, HE LIKES IT TOO" and OR?.."Get tha STINKING camera outta my face!".... Yeah, DON'S A REALLY COOL GUY!". 🤨😕🙄😒 Dude's ALWAYS BEEN a colossal pryck 😒
Jeff Pilson is not only a bass guitar God. He's one of the most down to earth, nicest guys you could ever meet. Talked to him many times at the Rainbow in Hollywood and at countless NAMM shows. Always has time for others. Really great guy.
why is he an imposter ? how come these dudes don't write and play their own shit ? oh okay - cause they aren't talented enough -
Whatever - knock Don Dokken all you want - at least he sings songs he wrote or stole from George
@@davidrice3337 WTF are you talking about?
Only one God! God of the Bible! God bless you. Jesus saves!
Jesus. Be nice.
I always saw him around the Valley. Man… is the Bow still open? I’d love some of that pizza again🔥
Met Jeff in 1998 with Dokken. Such an awesome guy that just talked with us for about an hour. Awesome guy! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
Massive respect to Jeff! If you’re playing bass or just starting out, you can listen to the early Dokken stuff and that, imo is the blueprint for rock solid bass playing, intelligently done, with a great tone and his sound comes through. No easy feat to shine through when George Lynch is your guitarist! That being said, what a humble, down to earth guy. Never hear of any drama coming from him, stays busy, looks like he’s still in great shape - just a phenomenal influence for guys starting out and veterans alike. As a fan how could you not love this guy and wish him the absolute best?? Now and I think everyone has figured this out, man when you hear the others talk, it just seems more and more that Don was not an easy guy to be in a band with. Great talent but, it sounds like studio time, tour bus time…man I’m sure you needed a certain level of patience to make it work!
I remember this guy when he played in STEEL DRAGON.
🤘😜
With Michael Starr
And Curt Cutty.
@@vermontbred 🤣 would love to hear Steel Panther cover We All Die Young
Back for the Attack was an INCREDIBLE album! I really can't imagine it getter any better.
Hey man I was at the same Dio/Dokken concert at Reunion Arena! It was my second concert, the first was Judas Priest about six months earlier. I remember all the church people were outside trying to save us from Satan and I told them I went to church every Sunday haha. Wish I could go back to '84 and stay there forever.
People who weren't around in the 80s have no idea how great it was..Rockin With Dokken-Dealin With Dio!
Wow! That might've been my second concert, too. My first concert was Judas Priest/Great White at Reunion on their Defenders tour. Was that your first concert?
Yep that was my first, it was in April and I was 17. I went by myself and sat way in the back on the 2nd level. It was just me and this older Vietnam veteran and he came over and shared a joint with me haha. @@fullinbloom
I feel Jeff is probably the most reliable source for anything Dokken past.
It's awesome seeing rockers meditating!!!🙏❤
As a teen, I would sit outside Burbank Studios room Dokken would be rehearsing in. After hours of jamming, Jeff would emerge, energy level one past 10, pinned at 11, huge smile for a total stranger: "Man you wanna hear the new album!!?" We sat in my Toyota pickup listening to every track, it was awesome. He is the most humble, gracious and kind musician I've ever met.
I thought Don was the Sober one Lol
I too saw the Last in Line tour with Dokken opening. I saw them in Evansville Indiana. As a guitar player it was great. Seeing George and Vivian the same night was awesome.
Your singer is on downers the band is on powder ok then. Explains a little
You caught that too? 😛
Back for the Attack is my favorite Dokken album. "Even better"? WOW
I love that Jeff is so honest. By the way, I really miss Dio.
Every musician in the 80s did drugs, especially cocaine! Even the guy talking in this interview talking shit did cocaine. don't let him fool you!! Everyone did back then!
Tooth and Nail - Under lock and key - THAT is the Dokken we fell in love with at that time. And MTV was the other part to their success, a lot of bands success of that time. It was visual, they could put out a video that painted the right vibe, right theme - so many vid were dumb as fuck and got weirder as the music video/artistic expression crossed over.
Imagine a world back then with the internet? All we had were press statements, magazine interviews, radio DJ's and of course, with MTV, we got news/rumors? shit about bands - But no matter how bad it was for some people, a lot of it was "What has Ozzy done now?" that took the spotlight, or Motley Crue busting up hotels, drunk, OD, Razzle (rest in peace dear Rocker) ~ but even with that, Don Dokken was heavily rumored, Heavily, to being a real dickhead sob. That was kind of the message I recall was out there, or someone wanted out there. And of course, the split with he and George got real public for the time. Fans didn't give a fuck about that, we wanted more Dokken but it got pissed away, gone forever.
But hey man, the radio only plays a few songs in total, there's no bad shit on their records man, not those 2 albums anyway. But that's how it was then. People came and went like a fucking mini mall. Jeff for example, how many fkn bands are in his credits? I mean, he was everywhere. Like whenever someone needed a bass player, a better bass player it's like someone would say "Hey, What's Pilson doing right now?" ... HAHA!
But like Jeff said - Don on Val's and booze? Jeff and everyone else on the planet in the 80's were lining it up day and night man - they can both point at each other and claim "You're a buzz kill dude" and they're both right - Should've got Don on the train man, might have been different.
But to be real? Lynch Mob release? Fucking badass! and overnight, there's George on MTV slashing it! Hey, same guitar, you know you're listening to Dokken's guitarist. Guitar players all had their own accent and voice through strings - like a fingerprint for a true fan Like yeah man, wish you had worked it out but oh well, we'll take what we can! Rock on! Drawing on memory? Don blamed it all on George wanting the musical direction to go his way, shine on his guitar - Don wanted to elevate to some cerebral awakening stage of enlightenment - fuck if I know, but it didn't fly, Don was the dick in the peanut butter is what we all walked away with, least in our bubble. But like I said, no internet, no real way of knowing, that's what we were fed.
Wasn't there also an age gap with Don? He was kind of long in the tooth I seem to recall - without looking it up, that's what I'm vibing on memory recall - one thing for sure, we're all old as fuck today looking back to those glorious times.
I believe I have all these dates correct....
In Nov 1987, I went to see Aerosmith at the Capital Center near DC. My whole reason for going was Dokken. They hit the stage and were tearing it up. Suddenly, around the second or third song, there was no guitar. I didn't see what happened. They finished the song, and then one of them said something like, "George is on his back. He's had the flu. He's very sick and can't continue." I was so pissed.
Then, in June 1988, I saw the Monsters of Rock tour at RFK Stadium in DC. Dokken was there and kicked ass!!! Great show. All the bands were great.
But the highlight is, in Aug 2001, my band got to open for Lynch Mob at Jaxx in Springfield, VA. What a great night. George and the guys were very cool. After the show, we grabbed some food, chatted a little, and took some photos.
I feel very honored to have been able to have experiences like that.
Lol...I was at that show Capital Center show. My recollection was George was drunk as shit, and he was just leaning up against one of his stacks not really playing by the 2nd or 3rd song, and then their set was over. Given all of the talk from the various members about their drug use, I'm going with my version and not the flu :). Obviously, I have no real proof, but it would be the more rock 'n roll version. \m/
@@madDdog67 I thought the same, which is why I was mad as hell. 😄
What's the name of your band?
@JoeBattle At that time, we were Hyper Chyld. We evolved a few years later and changed it to The Perfect Excuse.
Didn't Don claim in a recent interview that he never used drugs during the 80s, but everyone else was?
I was thinking that, too. It is just a blame game.
DIDN'T like coke at ALL.. Only did it once OR twice... HATED the way it made HIM feel...He WAS the one, ACTUALLY WORKING in the studio just sipping on his wine, trying to put out the BEST album for EVERYONE! ALL the other guys were coked outta their minds...Mick NEVER did crap other than just playing the drums! Yet? He got PAID for songwriting royalties!!!."....It was ALL "THE DON"...
Met this band back in 86 monsters of rock tour, my buddy was tending bar at the embassy suites hotel in troy mi called me up and said dokken was hanging out at the bar, me and another friend went up to the hotel and got hammered and hung out with these guy's for a bit, Don was stuck on himself, George was kinda laid back and didnt say much, Mick brown was yelling at them to hurry up for the band meeting, Jeff pilson hung out and bs'd with us for a good 30 mins, totally cool and down to earth, i mean we were just 19yr old punks at the time but he didnt care was very curious on how dokken was being perceived in detroit at that time and what we thought about hair metal and what not, just a really cool dude!
The year was 88 . I was at the first of two shoes at the Silverdome. I've always been a fan of Dokken, but I felt horrible for them having to play after Metallica. The crowd for Dokken was worn out .
Right 88, my mind isnt what it used to be🤣 still it was really cool meeting them!
Funny, Don Dokken never mentions he had a drug problem in interviews. Always kind of pointed the finger at other bands in the 80s
He has explicitly said the exact opposite in recent interviews haha. Said everyone else in the band had problems while he was sober writing music lmao.
He only mentions the cocaine, which in his mind, puts the others beneath him.
Love Jeff
@@whamsie4022 He's the type that thinks that because they're prescription drugs they're not as bad. A drug addict is a drug addict regardless of whether they're prescription or not right.
Back for the attack was one of the all time best records ever. The guitar tone was just the apex of tone. Georges later stuff was great too, but that tone on BFTA was just other worldly..
Don said in a recent video that he was the one guy in the band who was clean and the others were the druggies lol
Yeah I never believed Don when he’s been saying he never did drugs just had a few glasses of wine. Usually when you point the finger you have 3 more pointing back at you
Back for the Attack had more bang for the buck than many of their peers albums released around the same time. Nothing sucked like buying a metal album based on a hit video only to find only 2 or 3 songs actually good and the rest filler. In the age of the cassette that meant time spent rewinding of fast forwarding which was inconvenient while riding on my skateboard. BFTA could be listened all the way through, both A and B sides.
One thing that seems to get left out or even altered is that it was in the press that Don was breaking up the band right before the Monsters Of Rock tour. They make it sound like it happened on the tour, but I went to one of those shows and I clearly remember reading that he was breaking up the band and thinking how crazy it was that they were about to go on a stadium tour and they were done. And just how insane it was that he couldn't wait until after the tour to announce it. It's no wonder George didn't want to be there. Not only did that kill there vibe, but going on right after Metallica when they were absolutely on fire didn't do Dokken any favors either. But yeah, I'm surprised no one ever mentions that, Don killed the band BEFORE the stadium tour!
I met Don Dokken in the mid 90s, he was a total dick back then. Hopefully he’s grown up and become a more humble man than he was back in the day.
Maybe he still was bitter.
@@buckster2575 - that’s quite possible, Dokken had just recently reunited then, so maybe he was still trying to sort out his feelings and emotions with the other band members. They had just released the “Dysfunctional” album so that title alone may have been a bit telling as to the state of mind that he and the band were in during those days.
I think he’s jealous of George since he was originally also a guitar player
I heard he was such a down to earth humble guy
@@debu9374 I guess that grunge thing was still lingering to.
Excellent interview..
enjoyed it..☝️
I saw Dokken open for Twisted Sister in Feb. 1986. They were great! I was blown away when I heard them in 1984.
Where was that -Sundance? Hammerheads? Dokken was the loudest band I've ever seen but that was at the live show at CPI.
@@victormihai3929 It was at The Summit in Houston, TX. Funny, I thought Twisted Sister was the loudest band I've ever seen (the night Dokken opened for them)! 😆😆
Literally every interview the story becomes more complex. Don says it happened one way then George says it happened another then Jeff Pilson says what seems like the reality.
true story George's guitar techs would turn the volume up hella loud during concerts so you can barely hear Don's vocals because he sings kind of soft.... That was their main strife 😂
Has Jeff ever written a book,I'd love to read it.
That would be amazing
The end machine is what dokken could have been and I absolutely love dokken
First time saw Dokken was early 1984 at age 16 in Lakeland Fl. I think was triple header Twisted Sister Y&T, Dokken. Twisted was headliner. At the time Tooth and Nail had just came out and I didn’t even know who Dokken was. Really was going to see Twisted Sister they were huge at the time. I was pretty blown away by Dokken and Lynch’s guitar playing. I was right up against the stage. I ran out and got Tooth and Nail after that day and was a fan since. I saw them again at Tampa Stadium at Monsters of Rock 1988 after Back for the Attack came out. Then didn’t see them again until 1995 when they got back together for the Dysfunctional album. Very good album imo. That was at small outdoor venue Janus Landing maybe 4,000 people. I was front of stage again. Don looked wasted and was on a stool a lot. lol. Lynch was ripped and on steroids back then.
That Tooth & Nail album was one of the few store-bought cassettes I had back in the day. Cool album! Most of my cassettes were dubs / mix-tapes! 😂
Saw that same tour in Salt Lake City...well most of it. My friends and I lit a joint right as the house lights went down for Twisted Sisted and when everyone rushed the stage, we were left there like sitting ducks and got busted and thrown out😂😂😂
As far as guitar goes, I don’t know if BFTA could be better. It is a relentless, punishing and coke-fueled masterpiece for George.
And yet, according to "Tha DON", "Yeah! It WAS ALWAYS them OTHER guys... With the MASSIVE amount of blow and HOW he (Don) "didn't like blow at ALL and or DRUGS, in general." As HE "would be the one just sipping his wine 🍷 in the studio actually WORKING ON EVERYTHING and WANTING to actually work on the music ".... Yeah, right 👍 😒 .... Let's NOT talk about tha DON ever using drugs etc. as he WAS the little choir boy.... Anyways, thanks again for the interview with Pilson 😎 🤘🔥🤘
_Back for the Attack_ is their best record. Great riffs, and Lynch's solos are phenomenal. He was at his peak at the time, and deservedly recognised as one of the best in the business. World class phrasing, a unique sound, great tone, and that vibrato.
Agreed 👍💯
Indeed.
The ONLY concert tickets I ever bought in my teen years was Dokken/Van Halen 1988 Long Beach, Ca. ✨
Jeff Pilson is the absolute BEST 🎶 Rock On! 🤘🎸
Dokken was one of my favorite bands growing up, I only got to see them once back in the 80s.
Jeff still kicks serious ass 🎉
Foreigner is not really a a band anymore, tbh.
Jeff is towing the company line, we get it, but nobody is bummed about a cover band calling it quits.
Back for the Attack was AWESOME. I mean, I was only like 13 but I remember it being a big technical leap forward from their previous albums. Then Beast from the East came out. Holy cow what an awesome live album. ‘Twas a Beast!
Don Dokken is a real piece of work. The more he talks, the more unlikable he is. Dokken should have been the best band to come out of the 80’s, but Don Dokken ruined it!!!!
ALWAYS "thought" Don WAS (and STILL IS) a huge prick and the primary reason for the 80s Dokken demise (BACK THEN EVEN)...And ONLY going off heresay stories from people who knew the guys/ him AND also? Thee actual Dokken -Unchain the Night video era 86 OR so as well, might tell ya as well.....Don is a complete DOUCHE in the VIDEO/ interviews even THEN!...."yeah, THIS is my OTHER HOME (a Castle) in Germany...Ya like it? YEAH! I like it TOO!😊....Get tha STINKING camera outta my face before I KILL YOU!" -Don Dokken.... While the other guys are in cuttin up and tinkering around with the mobile music recorder on the road etc....Yeah REAL piece of WORK, ol Donny DOKKEN IS/WAS ehh?.....🤨🙄😒
Would love to hear the Pilson/Goldy songs
Had front row center in 1988 in Dallas, when they opened for Aerosmith. Phenomenal show. MISS THOSE DAYS
AS DO I...Saw'em at Iowa Jam '85&can only imagine how much tix would be today? $15 Advanced $17 Day of Show; Armored Saint, Dokken, Metallica, Ted Nugent&Aerosmith. Saw Metallica week later in Omaha w/Armored Saint for about same $. It was 3rd time seeing both Ted&Aerosmith. What was awesome about Aerosmith during that era was the energy&level of their shows w/o gimmicks. Done w/Mirrors was the next time I saw them after Iowa Jam&arguably one of their best next to Permanent Vacation.
Saw DIO in mid 90’s with Jeff on bass. Dude is solid.
That was Dio Strange Highways Tour 1994, Saw that tour twice in Florida. Dio was back playing clubs after years of playing arenas, That show was 🔥 🤘
@@sds4life17 Yep! Saw them at the House of Blues on Sunset.
Back for the Attack was a great album front to back all killer no filler!
Yeah I was surprised he thought it could have been even better because that’s their best IMO. George’s guitar sounded freaking amazing & the songs were some of their best.
Great interview
What? Back for the Attack could have been better? I always thought that was a masterpiece! That's a true rocking album with every song smoking hot. There's no ballads or slow songs on that one and George's lead playing is phenomenal!
I like it A LOT more than Under Lock and Key. It seemed like there were more songs on it than there needed to be, but I can't say any of them are weak.
I love TAN and ULAK but BFTA is their masterpiece!!!
I opened for Dokken in like 97 or so? My band was popular in the Harrisburg Pa area. We would get a lot of the big openers then. Jeff, George and especially Mick were GREAT! Mick brought my drummer and myself on the tour bus. Don acted like we should be humbled by meeting him. I am singer and guitar player at that time I was playing 5 nights a week and working a day job. Don couldnt sing the songs and kept pointing to his throat like it was too high or something. I sang everything from Van Halen, Queen, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Aerosmith to my own songs. 5 nights a week and he gave me a dead fish handshake and said your welcome. Mick Jeff and George, thank you for a memorable night
I too, have experienced the Dokken dead fish handshake. He was cordial though and sighed my vintage vinyl for me.
@@CharlieMoney77 Not hard to tell at all. This was my experience. Not bragging at all
@@brianseneca3546Heard the SAME/similar on the road stories time and time AGAIN from plenty of OTHER opening bands players throughout the decades, man.... ONE thing that ALWAYS HAS BEEN THE SAME? THAT wet fish handshake of Donny's 😬....Lol. Loved Dokken's MUSIC and Lynch in the 80s.. ALWAYS knew/thought DON WAS the problem... He HAS ALWAYS thought that "his singing" was soooo much better than ALL the other Hard ROCK/ Hair METAL bands from then.... SMDH 😒
Are you kiddin' me? Back for the Attack is Dokken on steroids!
Anyway, great interview as always
Jeff is a great guy who I have had the pleasure of meeting and he is an extremely talented musician as well, a class act.
Back for the attack was a phenomenal album
1990-91's version of Lynch Mob was great. Oni Logan was a better frontman .
❤❤❤
I always wondered why Pilson wasn't in Lynch Mob. 🤔
Back for the attack was one of the best all around records of all time. The mix, the solos, the arrangements...pure magic.
I'm a guitarist and play along with Back for the Attack almost daily as my warmup! You're right about best record of all time!
I was a huge Dokken fan back in the mid to late 80's. George is probably the biggest reason I picked up a guitar. I thought Back for the attack was killer. When it came out, I was blown away. The band was just getting better and better!
Mr. Scary is my favorite song from Dokken. I liked the Freddy Krueger movies and the Dream Warriors theme also.
"We do get paid to do it, but we couldn't make a living from it."
This has to change for the Artist. It's been this way for too long now. Back when Marcel Duchamp put a toilet in a gallery and called it Art, he was fighting to let Artists speak their own minds, and not have to go to Aristocracy. Politic. Religion. To support their works. With Dada, this was the Artist protesting War and the Politics that cause them. Because Artists needed to realise they had great power to move the masses. Through song. Through art. Through literature. They had the power to sway votes. To overthrow kingdoms. To challenge God. And those who used Artists to promote their agendas and missions, should not be the ones to choose what Artists get seen. What Artists get heard. Vincent Van Gogh should not die penniless pursuing his Art. Which was his mission to become closer to God. He shouldn't be appreciated a hundred years after his mission died. He should be appreciated THEN and THERE.
The Artist needs a Revolution right now. Myspace offered it, but messed it up. But it won't happen if everyone's out for themselves. But they've had to be in the Music Industry, because every shark and rat is out to take a slice of meat and hunk of cheese out of the Artist's pocket. You literally have to sell your soul. Your integrity. Your heart. Your world. Just to get a record deal. Or what that deal is supposed to promise. An audience. An audience that isn't as fickle as those who promote things to them. Fads and trends. Delights and respites. Escapism. It's all it offers, meanwhile people keep getting fucked over, and companies keep putting people out of business and blah blah blah.
It has to change. There is no Social Security for Artists. No pension. We are forever asking for your help, and told "sing me a song." "Draw me something." And we can't. Because it doesn't work like that, unless you're a businessman artist. Someone who wants hits and charts and those things. An Artist can't perform on demand. Can't produce without impetus. Art flows like water, rages like fire, rumbles like earth, blows in the wind. It can't be captured with the push of a button. It doesn't know buttons. Everything you love about an artist's work, probably came from that artist's suffering. Or their experience in this world, whether good or bad. It doesn't come from them clicking their fingers to a snappy beat and singing about lovely horses.
You should be able to make a living from Art, just like any other job. Unfortunately, it has never been this way truly for the Artist, without having to bow down to someone with all the money. All the power. All the resources. They pay endlessly for a gift given to them from the gods. It has to change. Lawyers. Accountants. Managers. They aren't the ones that write the songs that make the whole world sing. But they're the ones that gets most of the profits from it. Meanwhile the Artist deals with a drug addiction earned from countless gigs with no rest, no break, slaving away for fame which is fleeting and harsh on its exit. On to the next.
There’s thousands of successful musicians that make a living doing It lmfao
How many millions upon millions of artists are there. lmfao. the successful ones are the ones that stepped on everyone else, or have sold so much of their soul, it's hard to even consider them human. @@tommilitello198
I saw Dokken open for Dio in Anchorage when I was stationed there in 1984. Great show by both bands!
Met Jeff back in 2009 in Germany at a Foreigner show….. one of the coolest and nicest guys I’ve met…
What stood out to me was on that monsters of Rock tour when Mick Brown went into that double bass attack on tooth and nail..........tearing it up in the daytime........burning it down at night!
I will give Don a pass because of his age. The fact he is still out there doing what he loves is a testament to his dedication. That said, I believe Jeff's side of the story here. You'd have to go back in the archives, but I believe it was on Dysfunctional, Don made a comment that the production could have been better, but the producer was high all the time and the producer was him. Don portraying himself now as not being part of the party crowd back then is a bit disingenuous.
I've been a Dokken fan since forever and every time I hear Jeff speak, I hear the voice of reason in the band. He's one of the reasons I learned bass and how to sing backup.
Good band name...VOR - Voice of Reason 😂
Dokken may have been lumped in with other hair/glam metal bands of the time, but their music was always more complex and heavier than say bands like Poison, Motley Crue, Quiet Riot, and Ratt etc, even on Under Lock and Key, with it's commercial appeal, and slick production aimed at radio play, they we're still able to pull off the difficult balancing of growing their fanbase and maintaining their integrity.
If Dokken had stayed together and cut back a bit on the nose candy, they’d be huge today
I agree 100%
I visited Jeff's studio Pilsound in Van Nuys about 33 years ago. He showed me the demos of these Craig Goldie recordings. It was amazing. Sounded better than anything out at the time.
13th Floor I believe.I was Craig Goldy's student at the time and Craig was playing stuff for me,insane.tone raven-guitar(We Are The Black Things)Hollywood
@@TONERAVENTUNES whatever it was he alluded to it being known players but he couldn't tell me who it was. We were going to do a demo and he was just showing me the studio discussing the plan. He just played a little bit of it for me and I was blown away.
I was at the same Dio/Dokken show you were at in Dallas. November 1984 at Reunion Arena. Good show.
I was there. George’s tone filled Reunion fully.
Saw Dokken with Judas Priest at Cobo Hall in Detroit. Under Lock and Key tour I believe. Priest was on the Turbo tour. Great concert.
That's when I saw them. Good show @ the Norfolk Scope in Va.
Don says this, Jeff says that, George says something else, Mick goes along with whoever he sits with. Who do you believe?
In a recent interview, Don admitted that he was bipolar. That condition can make a person lie outright.
I dont waste anytime with it..
This is any 80s band just switch the name
@@Oc3anb0rn You are so right! Man, I used to watch those "Behind the Music" episodes on VH1, and they always seem to be the same story, with different faces and lots of dysfunction!
Mick actually backs up George in an interview with Brian Sword and the Double Stop podcast. There’s also one with Jeff I cannot recommend enough. Those interviews are here on RUclips.
@xdreampcs8554 What about the producers and mixing engineers that helped them make the albums? Tom Werman and Michael Wagener
May 1986 I was 14 years old and saw my first concert at the St.Paul Civic Center. Judas Priest/Dokken. $20 for decent seats. My mind and ears were blown when it was over. The lights came on and you could cut the reefer and marlboro smoke with a knife. So glad I grew up in the decade of metal
I remember seeing Dokken during the Aerosmith tour, and it still ranks as one of my favorite shows. After the concert we got to talk to Jeff and Don out in the parking lot. It was just so cool. Very down to earth, and very appreciative to the fans. I recall seeing George running to the bus and I yelled "George!" he waved and went into the bus. Don and Jeff looked at me, and said "Oh, he's shy, he won't come over. " Just such a cool experience. Hopefully Jeff sees my comment. Another super cool interview! 🤘❤️
I also got to meet George and Mick in Oakland after their show. I didn't stick around to watch Aerosmith. George talked to a small group of us behind the building for a very long time and signed autographs. He checked his pockets for guitar picks but didn't have any, so he went back inside Oakland Coliseum and brought back guitar picks to give out! The picks said Mr. Scary, of course. ☠️ I was over the moon!!! George Lynch is still my absolute favorite guitar player of all time!
Never heard of The End Machine but I'm going to check them out right now
Jeff is the coolest guy! He is always so nice.
Ironically, I've always felt that the worst thing about Dokken was Don Dokken. I think the band could have been massive had they had a more dynamic frontman. They were always just a B-level act at best, never a big deal. If George had stuck with Ozzy, we would never have heard about this band at all.
You mean had Sharon and Ozzy stuck with George.
The worst and the best of Dokken was Don.
He was a B leaguer
@@YtuserSumone-rl6sw EXACTLY 💯 lol...."IF George stuck with Ozzy?" ..😮 Huh? Ya mean, "IF the Osbourne camp DIDN'T FIRE LYNCH!"....AFTER promising him the gig/job , having Lynch PAY HIS OWN WAY to go to Europe and "get a feel" for the live shows by doing soundchecks and hanging out with the crew/band mates... Only to have Jake E Lee FINALLY show up to audition and "get the gig!".....
Well that kinda explains the disconnect- if the 3 of them were doing cocaine and Don was doing valium... you're never going to be able to hang together.
I was the drinker among a group of cocaine users growing up- they saw me as a drag and I saw them as a movie playing at 4x- there was no middle ground to communicate
That's definitely not Foreigner
The Mick Jones Band.
Nice shout out to "Wild" Mick Brown!
Love the interview as always. Good job. Wish Jeff and the guys will release those old days live videos he said he was watchin', whatever the quality 😜 It's a sin we just have Philly and little bit more.
As an 80's rocker, who got only to play clubs for 12 years, I play better than I ever did, but do not have the luxury to keep going at my passion. 62, and never get to do it. Must be nice. I still have my mane, no dye, cool clothes, just no guys. Shame. I got it going on. Still.
Hey, man, we don't all have to be Rock N Roll legends. I'm sure you have many talents and skills that even the greatest musicians can't compete with you in. Also, I'm sure you're legendary (in your respective musical field) to your family and people you know. Heck, I'm 29, I've only been playing guitar since 2014, and I can play pretty fast (like the legendary solos that we've all come to know and love) and do a lot of tricks, but I'm a nobody in the world of music, still, my nieces and nephews (as well as friends/co-workers) look at me like I'm George Lynch or something because your average person either can't play or can't play nearly as well/fast, so I stand out. Just know that the longer you keep at it, the smaller percentage bracket you enter as far as people with the ability. Most people give up and quit early on, or they learn a few things and then stray away from it. You sure sound like a bada$$ to me!
Dokken was a big part of my youth and for some reason “Under Lock And Key” always reminded me of winter time! Great time in my life thank you Jeff!
Yeah same here. It came out in December 85 so I played the hell out of it all winter. I can remember cruising 40 miles to a new years eve party with some friends when there was a foot of snow on the ground and very cold. Good times.
....I should add that we played ULAK the whole way and back. Ahhh to be able to go back to those times eh?
ULAK definitely seems to have a ‘mood’ to it that none of their other albums did. Great record.
Man great interview
Dude your interviewing technique and skill and questions are fucking awesome! Very well done man
Full In Bloom has to be a CIA asset!
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Thank you, Leo! I appreciate you taking the time to listen.
My first concert at age 13 at the Cow Palace. I was blow away by Jake. Then I saw them on ultimate sin and came home to find all my guitars and equipment stolen while at that show. I love jakes playing. One of the greatest!
Relevance?
@@whamsie4022TY..... I'm like ...😵💫 "Ohhh kay....So ...WHAT in TH does Ozzy and Jake era HAVE TO DO WITH "DOKKEN".....AT ALL?....😕. 🫨🔫
I saw Dokken in concert in 87 it was Jeffs 27th birthday.
And Don said he didnt do all the blow...george did...haw haw...
"GEORGE AND..? THEM OTHER , "DOKKEN" GUYS!....I WAS the one, STAYING BACK in the studio and I, was the one that just would sit back, and drink my wine...I NEVER liked coke, personally...It WAS, ALWAYS...them OTHER GUYS......*.........Of course 😏👍 "OHHH-KAY DON".......SMH 😒
Part of playing bass in a band is the ZEN zone of being the low-key glue.
That zen zone feels amazing too🤘
Jeff, you're the dream band member every musician should have, SIr! \m/\m/ Thanks for the great legacy of tunes you've made for us 80's rockers to fall back on in this age of lame mass produced music.
Jeff and George are great guys.
LoL.😝
Jeff's version seems to be most plausible.