Hellcat Charger & Charger Scatpack 392 are TOP 5 WORST SELLING cars in America in 2024!
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- Hellcat Charger & Charger Scatpack 392's are the WORST SELLING cars in America in 2024! Dodge Charger, Dodge Challenger, Dodge Hornet are among the WORST SELLING cars of 2024 in America. These cars have a 400 - 500 Day Lot Stock and are nowhere near close to being sold anytime soon. Why are people not buying these cars??? (MUST WATCH)...
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The biggest issue is the PRICE
With a little audacity and disrespect on top
Price
Some of the people working at some of dealerships are definitely some of the problem after you see the crazy price
The biggest issue is your life😂
Dealer mark ups and the cars msrp is already pushing it.
last week I tried to trade my Scatpack in for a hellcat but didn’t want to pay $1750 a month or drop $15k down to lower payment, I also tried a widebody scat not about to pay $1,150 for a scatpack $69k for a scat is crazy decided to sell it and just fix up my 71 Olds Delta 88 convertible 🤷🏿♂️
Damn right. Old school is the best way to go.
I attempted the same approach with my RT, but they remained firm on the price. Despite showing them it had been listed for over 100 days, they insisted on a $10,000 down payment. They cited banks' uncertainty about the market, but suggested financing through Chrysler Capital at a 7% interest rate with a rebate they have yet to reveal. And that lame pitch talking about these car are moving off the lots fast ( yea right ) sad.
@@Nghtmre345I got my 2021 RT last summer for 2500 down at $33k. They went down by 7% in my area since. You can get one still
At this point Stellantis is doing everything in their power to turn Dodge into the next Plymouth
The biggest issue is the price. The MSRP on these cars has been pushed up close to $10,000. I bought my Dodge charger, a hellcat and 2016 for just $75,000 on its sticker. No markup. Now you’re forced to pretty much buy wide bodies which have already been marked up to closer to $89,000.
Secondly: you have the dealer market adjustments for inflation. $15,000 for anything with a hemi in it. $20,000-$30,000 for anything with a hellcat or redeye engine in it. That’s just stupid. Insurance companies will not cover the car beyond its market retail price.
Thirdly: insurance is skyrocketing. Not only because these cars are most stolen but also because these cars are inherently dangerous, and these idiots keep getting into accidents with them or doing stupid shit on the road such as takeovers.
Fourthly: I’m not surprised that these cars aren’t selling because to be perfectly honest the charger and challenger are played out. They are boring now to anybody older than 13. These cars have been on the market for over 10 years at this point.
And I got a wide body for 79k in 2021
They have been played out for longer than 10 years if you ask me. They should have given us a new Charger/Challenger in 2015. They decided to save a few billion and just offer a bunch of fender flares and superchargers and we Americans are em up like candy.
So now everyone who wants one already has one and they are stuck with the leftovers.
@@josebrown5961they really just had a rise in popularity when introducing the scat packs and hellcats… that’s also when the theft really started to increase
They are too easy to steal no one wants that headache
Yup and the price.
Rather have a 5th Gen Camaro SS at this point lol cheaper and sound nice as hell lol
@@NudaMan I feel you I’d agree
Blacktivities at its finest
I just passed by TOWN & COUNTRY DODGE.
The same 3 Durango Hellcats that were there on December 24th are still sitting there.
They are offering $5000 off sticker - but sticker is $98,000 lol.
DON'T BUY THEM.
Let them sit on the lots and ROT.
Stellantis will eventually be forced to drop the prices between $10,000 and $30,000 dollars.
They are already doing POWER DOLLARS and trying to offer "$10 per horsepower" lol
These cars are OLD and PLAYED OUT.
Yep they are dated and played out
Hellcats & scats definitely still sitting in the lot at my dodge dealership by my house 😂😂
@@TJ-100 for hellcat money your better off with the Cadillac ct4 Blackwing, nice Corvette supercharged v8 and available manual transmission.
The biggest issue is the price & people getting robbed for they shit 💯
My local dodge dealer has the same challengers and chargers on the showroom floor for the last 10 months. I went in the other day and even the salesperson said there isn’t anyone buying any of these cars any longer.
Damn that's crazy
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You damn right I'm going to keep my 2018 Scat Pack I'm keeping my money in my pocket
I work for a dealership and staring at my dream skatpack everyday and seeing the price is like ewe Nevermind 😂
They kind of crash all the time lol. Look for one with a savage ding and buy it for cheap and fix.
The price rn also is ridiculous
I’m a salesperson for a DCJR Dealership and it’s straight up true. All the way from base model to highest trim these cars are way too high in price. Even with discounts, rebates, and dodge power dollar days these cars are just not going down in price. Everytime I get a person who wants a wide body scat I tell them come back later when it’s cheaper because that car will still be on our lot.
Damn knockout these dealerships have no choice but to drop the markup, the msrp is den enough. The dealers MUST drop the markup, if they wanna get rid of em
Hell they are even sitting on used car lots everywhere not just new lots
Crazy high prices. Need that discount soon.
Its not worth the hassle to buy them anymore. Rent gas food have gone up and guys have made their choice and adding a 500-800 car note on top on extreme insurance numbers. Income isnt stretching and everyone is feeling it
Well said my guy. I think a lot guys just caught up in the hype. But buying cars higher than their yearly salaries.
Not surprising consider the models have reached total market saturation. You can't look left or right without seeing a charger or challenger nearby. Second is intrest rates being utter crap no one is buying new. Now all the shenanigans with the dealer markups no one is gonna wanna work with that.
Big bro I love this channel been rocking with you since you had the v6. I salute how far you’ve come man. God bless keep it up
Im waiting to buy one too, waiting for those prices to drop. Hopefully these lack of sales will push dealers to sell them at a discount
Prices went out of control ,and then the dealers jacked up prices even more
I agree with all that had been said. I’d like a new scat or cat but for the price, there are a ton of really good options.
You can get a bimmer, Benz, Audi or other luxury brand with similar power, comfort and a better dealership experience for the buck.
These cars are awesome but at the end of the day, once the vroom, vroom element is out of your system, you’re stuck with an extremely high payment, insurance, tax and fuel related vehicle.
All in your running costs are close to $2k per month and you have to worry about a pistol to the dome, ride around with a Glock or be scarier than a chihuahua in a kennel full of pit bulls.
BMW here I come.
It’s definitely price. I’m paying a rack a month for a scatpack. I can swing it no problem but there’s no denying that’s a FAT payment
I’m right behind you I’m paying 800 😂.I’m about to put mines on Turo though
At my local CDJR dealership, they're asking a little over $100k for a 23 widdebody jailbreak hellcat Charger.
They’re old news at this point- not to mention the outrageous prices! Dodge really got carried away overestimating how much interest there would be for a defunct vehicle line 🤷🏾♂️
Been waiting and I got my eye on a few of them. Just waiting and ready
I'm glad i purchased my wb scatpack charger in 22. I can imagine the guys who paid excessively over on top of high interest rate. I'm going on 3 years with 7485 miles . I only put 6k down monthly payment $875 and i pay 1k with 3.7 rate.
For me it comes down to the three P's price, price and price.
Well my friend you forgot about interest rates and can you really afford it. 0:02
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Bro i am trying selling my 2021 ScatPack Challenger with 11k miles and they tryjng give me 29k 😅 i was like na i am good
That’s because no one is buying them. Once the demand falls for them the trade price falls. ScatPacks during 2020-2022 were selling like hotcakes and you could get top dollar for trade guess you are stuck now man 😂
@@CertifiedHeel guess so my boy 🫡🤣
Those markups are turning people's heads in the opposite direction but not in theirs
We all know why they are not selling it’s the same exact car from 2015 y’all fan boys of course a car is not gonna sell 10 years later if it’s the same exact car
No it’s not that, it’s because of how targeted they are. Imagine you just spent close to 100k on a hellcat and it’s stolen within the first 24 hours, damn shame.
It's cus dodge switching to ev and people don't like ev ... and they don't wanna be apart of a team that is gas and electric... that's how I see it anyways
Plus people can’t technically afford these cars.
It’s the prices the MSRP has gone up solely because of hype of the Hellcat trims and up not because performance upgrades. Dodge has turned their back on this fake “brotherhood of muscle” nonsense. That term only applies to Hellcat trims and higher they don’t care about anything naturally aspirated. Their number one selling cars aren’t even the Hellcat trims and up it’s the 3.6 V6 engines, 5.7 Hemi and 6.4 Scatpack in that order. So tell me why none of those cars have received any type of revision over the years?
Whether with added power or drivetrain and suspension either one could’ve been touched and hasn’t in over 10yrs. There is absolutely no reason why at least the 5.7 and 6.4 didn’t get a drivetrain and suspension upgrade 6-7yrs ago if they didn’t want to add power. The MSRP for the R/T and Scatpack have increased $10K-$20K over the years and it’s been the same exact cars since 2015 nothing has changed. You use to be able to get a 5.7 R/T under $30K so why has the MSRP increase to $11K in 2018-2024?
So for a $11K increase they could’ve gave both the R/T and Scatpack the Hellcat transmission that cost $4K-$6K, aluminum driveshaft $900-$1,200, Dragpak suspension kit $1,100-$1,500, 275/305 $200-$300 Mickey street/Nitto street tires. Now if you add all that up that’s still under $11K Dodge has scammed their entry level muscle car owners. The ones that literally carry your company because they been turned their back on the commuter car owners and pickup truck owners. It’s no reason why Dodge doesn’t have at least 1-2 commuter cars like a Honda Accord and Nissan Altima and 1 medium size pickup truck like the Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro and GMC Canyon Elevation AT4.
Price and interest rates is why they’re not selling!
Yeah, I see a lot guys saying the price and they're forgetting about high interest rates, higher insurance, higher fuel, matinance, and can you truly afford it. Cars costing more than their yearly salaries.
I was just getting my oil changed the other day all them joints literally had dust on them
Hey Knockout...been following you for a while. Had to sell my 21 Challenger Scat Pack Widebody before I moved up North. It was hard to let her go. Parents needed help with medical bills. Plus being in Ohio, I'd only be able to drive her 4-5 months out of the year. It sucks. At the time I bought her, I traded my 19 Scat Pack standard body ( 6 speed manual) in. Was able to pick up the Widebody for $47500 ( March of 21). Can't believe the prices currently. What was the dealership you posted in a previous video of all the Challengers and Chargers? I'm curious. And I agree with you...id wait until prices come down. No fricken way I'd pay the fricken mark up they have going on now.
I drive by a Dodge dealer 5 day's a week.
I dont think they have room for customers to park thats how full they are with inventory.
In my neck of the woods...
I good wage is around 20.00 per hour.
So your 97,000.00 jeep is not going to sell. Neither is a 67,000 dollar Charger.
Manufacturers are still trying to ride the wave of computer chip shorts during covid lockdowns.
I rather get an older charger with the 6.1 ive had 2 scatpacks and they are played out. And not to mention the 06-10 chargers look better anyway
The thing is after that car is over a year old on the lot it has to be sold as a used vehicle Dodge was so stupid they should have changed the charger and challenger should have did a model change over and called the last ones 2024 model
They’re not selling because of how easy they are to steal, imagine spending so much money just to look over your shoulder 24/7
thats me rrn
It can happen to anyone. I'm not riding around looking over my shoulder. And i have a nice 87 cutlass and a 95 gmc shortbed.
@@tywanjackson2320 that’s true it can happen to anyone, but the odds of you having a target on your back by driving a hellcat or even a scat are night and day compared to driving any other car.
@@elijah4153 I haven't had those kinds of problems and I'm going on 3yrs. Maybe they don't want a wb scatpack charger 🤔.
Its true, all that information you can look up on the internet. You can look up all new cars. And also the days mean... how long it will take to deplete there entire supply. Not one car
Ive seen lots with 8 hellcats on the lot still
In Vancouver bc Canada I have only seen one hornet
When you mention discounts, do you think it’ll wall cause used Challengers to be discounted or mainly just the 2024s?
even my small town Dodge dealer here is full of Mopars, whole lot full of them. never seen that before here!
They got a scat pack at my home dealership it’s been sitting up there for 1 years they want 65k for that 🤦 but me boy bought a gt for 43 these prices are crazy asf
I certainly hope your right bro!
What's crazy to me about the prices is you can get a 300 with the same engine spec as an equivalent Charger for less money depending on where you look. I've seen 300Cs go for $50K and Scats going for well over $60K. WTF?
Bro...look at prices in Charlotte....ive seen some for $33,000
I just bought a brand new 2024 Cadillac Lyriq AWD lux 3 - fully loaded.
I am DONE with Stellantis.
Crazy on prices... my '18 392 durango sticker at $71855 Now i see them going for $85k some $90k. Stupid prices.
in 2020 my base model hellcat challenger was $53,000.
I wanted a Challenger Scat Pack, love the car but same car that was 45k in 2018 is 55k now and with interest rates, just can’t, lot of dealers are STILL in lala land in the NE area. I am thinking about buying a 15-19 nice R/T as a daily and calling it a day, (SHOULD I HOLD OUT?) Some dealers STILL have 22’!!! The prices on some 2023 R/T’s is nuts even with Power Dollar’s…
Hold out
i got lucky with a '22 R/T last year in october..it was used with 1100 miles. its a manual 6 speed and sticker was $35. only thing no perfermance package but i put another $5K in the car and its great.
$55k? Bro my dealer wants above $60k for scats 😂. They can keep them.
Hold out. Check out the original msrp of the 2015-19…it made me turn away…it’s damn near the same but with 50k miles, no warranty, no incentives and interest rate nearly tripled. When the new prices crash (and they will) it will wreck the used market.
I think I should wait till the summer or at least end of the year
I will stay away from dodge for a long time base in my sad experient thanks for your video
Yea I’m from New York I’m going to Miami this week to pick up one the GT and R/T they giving away. A brand new R/T going for 31k
It’s not speculation. I work at a dodge dealership. It’s hard to sell anything new there. I can show you all of our inventory and how long we have have them
The dealership now are ridiculous I have a 2019 full size truck with 28000 miles on it and I'm close too value went to dealership last week and was told by two different dealerships my truck was not worth anything Wowww!!! They can keep them!!!!!
I’m just going to wait it out knockout
Another thing to think about is they are just sitting on the lot not being used and that’s bad for the car
The issue is the price it should not cost as much as a AMG Mercedes second is the theft the third is the dealership treatment
That's not exactly true this is model related not option. Although base model prices are up significantly.
Listen, I don’t think people are worried about buying cars and trucks when they can’t even afford to live - have you been to a grocery store lately? Hell even rent is far too expensive these days - But what put all that on hold and buy $100,000 car or truck? Thats crazy
This RUclips my guy. Knockout probably living in apartment with a anal probing note.Bought a car in the middle of the crisis. But giving out financial ignorant advice. My interest rate on my 22 wb scatpack charger is 3.7% my home 3.25%. These dudes paying interest rates higher than my home and car. I make 120k a year and didn't twice about buying a car with a note higher than my mortgage. But i get what KO doing trying to keep his algorithm a flow so YT can help pay for his cat.
Literally seen my first hornet on the road last Thursday and i had to record it smh trashcan in gold smh
Its the prices then them getting stolen it's just too much I myself a ram 🐏 guy and sticking to them i have 03 ram I got and it still runs good
*runs STRONG
@@ihyatemerica5931 definitely do I'll take old over new anyday
Not surprised
Adlid360! We're listening to the same video.
Drop the price , lower the interest rate, and i might be interested. Then again, there's still the insurance issue...
B4 u do any mods get a alarm system 1st the security system sucks
The only trim with a market day supply less than 200 is the GT, which also has the best incentives (where I live). That's what it's going to take to move Scat Packs and Hellcats. I'd hate to be someone who paid a markup on these cars because that money is gone and at least another 10% of the purchase price.
Next month I’m selling my ‘14 300c for a ‘24 Durango 392….
DONT BRO not right now
Not worth it
Just sell your house and sleep in the durango.
That why I got my RT I don’t have time for them too low the cost and I went too dodge dealership they have full vehicles in their lot and they want 50k and 45k no customer not buying anything from them I got lucky got my for 30k at a Volkswagen dealership 2020 RT Durango because right now they want 50k for RT 🤦🏾♂️
There are r/t durangos in Cali going for damn near 60k and dodge wonders why they ain't selling shit lol
Ive seen Scatpacks for $33,000 in Charlotte
I like ur hairstyle
I only saw 2 hornets but it might be da same one because somebody up da street got one
In 2019 my friend got a 2020 charger for 31 thousand msrp and got it at 29k
What about the jailbreaks
PRICE PRICE PRICE! They don't want those cars sold! Why, i don't know and won't understand, but they don't want them sold! That Camaro still calling my name.
When bro, when is that discount coming, im cash ready fr
You cashing out or you catching a note?
I have been eyeing the 23 jailbreak charger where I’m at it was 106 now 91 soon as it hits 75 I’m on it been on the lot 5 months now
Unless you got 75 in the bank. Dumb decision
@@RobsGravity I own a trucking business my guy bless to have 1 paid off now I’m working on the second truck 👌🏾 car hauling
@@RobsGravity I own a trucking business I’m fine bless to have my truck finally paid off 👌🏾
But you have CTS-V/CT5-V, Chevy SS, Pontiac G8 GXP, Camaro Z/28 or ZL1, Mustang GT350 & GT500, & boss 302’s just in general a lot of options lol
@@RobsGravityprobably doesn't make 75k a year. He's gas lighting himself. The comment section is filled with cattle being steered to the slaughterhouse.
10k down and they still want 1k a month.. no way in hell, for a damn scat pack
Hard to believe Stellantis had record profits last year. It appears that there is some trickery going on. I bet they are counting all those cars at the dealer as sold. The only choice for them is to bring back those cheap leases but I think the market is done with the same old Charger and Challenger with new stickers 😮
I never saw a hornet on the road lol no kap 😅
Also, it will piss off a bunch of people that bought a Dodge in the last 6 months. Dodge should provide a rebate for those that did buy in the last 6 months. Fat chance.
If Dodge had big discounts I’ll be back in play over a Dark 🐎..Dodge wanted this toxic energy for the big bag 💰..said 24 was the last year then changed it to 23 & named the top model jailbreak & that’s exactly what people were willing to do smh
Hell yeah I’d believe you 😂 how can they sell a scat pack for $50k+ when people can buy a red eye swapped Chrysler 300 for $30k. Even a low mileage 2017 hellcat can be found for $50k
Besides the high prices on the Mopars, there's two factors that are playing out that people are coming grips/ reality checking in:
1: the high prices translates to high property taxes people are getting hammered with at the end of the year.
2: these vehicles are becoming "dated", people are looking at Chrysler & anticipating / looking towards what the next era of performance sports cars are to come out. "All eyes on Statlantis" ball's in their hands, but they're fumbling it.
They're nice, & gorgeous cars, but let's face it- they've aged... & Absolutely nobody is wanting a Hornet/ nobody's wanting an EV all electric junk. You can not beat the V8's it tingles all the human senses. Well, you can beat it: The Viper V10 🤟🏼
This would be awesome if Chrysler says: "We'll stopping the productions of the V8's but in place We're Mass produce a V10 Hemi..." 🤟🏼 that would be epic.
No surprise nobody with sense at least overpaying for a overhyped car they been making since 2015 until prices go all the way down
Why you buy Garbogde vs reliable Honda or Toyota that pretty much last forever with minimum maintenance
I’m smiling ear to ear 😅. Drop them prices!
Stalantis is the largest selling car in Europe by quite a bit actually.
Not in America though!
Guess that’s what happens when you think Americans are the same target audience as Europeans😂😂
They could drop redeyes to 45k and i still wouldn’t want it. They can keep it. No one wants to deal with the thefts and all the other issues. Top it off no one wants to deal with their crappy dealer network… terrible after service… so much more. Just let them sit..
Even with a "Fire sale" to eliminate the current inventory. Who in there right mind is going to turn back around in a few months to go back to the dealership and buy the new trash electric Charger.
They increased prices to try and make up for the CAFE fines they were paying for these high HP vehicles. With high HP comes more emissions and poor fuel economy, the exact opposite of what the government is asking auto manufacturers to be doing and there are some pretty steep fines for that. Ford for example is able to keep producing a V8 Mustang because they have vehicles that help offset those higher emissions and poorer MPG numbers the V8 Mustang has.
Dodge on the other hand put all of their eggs into the high HP muscle car basket and it worked....until it didn't. They failed to offer other vehicles in the Dodge lineup that were fuel efficient and got rid of the ones that were to make up for the poor emissions and MPG numbers the high HP vehicles they were producing. In the end, they basically screwed themselves and now they're in a big pickle where they have a really old vehicle lineup other than the Hornet. And they've totally dropped everything they were known for because they were basically forced to which has completely pissed off it's customer base and they've made it really hard on themselves. It'll be really interesting to see how they deal with this in the future.
The Hornet and vehicles like this should have come out a couple of years ago and I think they would have been better received than they are today. Now, Dodge is forced to offer these vehicles and are now forced to get rid of the vehicles people admired so they're hating on vehicles like the Hornet (or anything else they come out with) because its not a Hellcat. They probably should have either kept the Dart around and vastly improved it and/or kept the Journey around (or a vehicle like it) and again, vastly improved it. Dodge did the bare minimum with the Dart and it showed. It was a forced vehicle by the government as part of their bailout and Dodge did the bare minimum to get the Dart to market. They could have made a really nice vehicle with the Dart and it could still be on the road today if they played their cards right. They needed to put some effort into vehicles like the Dart, Hornet, and Journey could have been Dodge's hybrid/EV lineup which would have bought them more time with the Challenger and Charger, hopefully with totally brand new vehicles on new platforms with new powertrains. There are people who like the Dodge brand but couldn't care less about actually owning a Scat Pack or Hellcat Charger/Challenger.
Dealership's aren't helping Dodge either with their crazy and absolutely ridiculous markup's and just poor service all around. Dodge really needs to step on this and take charge. I'm not sure what the best approach is with this but they definitely need to do something. It's a huge problem for them and it seems like everyone knows it. I wish Dodge could just pull dealer franchises for those who are just out to screw customers over for their own benefit. These types of dealerships will never ever help the Dodge brand (or Jeep/RAM/Chrysler) and they don't need to exist. I'd rather have 2,000 or 3,000 good dealerships than 5,000 dealerships where 90% of them are just a terrible buying/ownership experience.
Hi guys. I’m new to the car community but I’m currently in the process of trying to get my hand on a new 2023 R/T. What’s a reasonable price for it? They are trying to ask me 44K but I’m not having it.
Bro don't spend 44k on a R/T. And if you HAVE to get the car get it used. Nothing over 35,000 for used R/T is a decent deal
@@RobsGravity thanks. I thought I was buggin. It sounded nice tho. It was basically fully loaded. I’m going to wait it out and see what happens. I appreciate you.
Just get a 15’ lol it’s literally the same car until 23’
In my area, Dodge is offering $3,700 in Power Dollars incentives. So, I would be looking at MSRP - $3,000 and then taking the $3,700 incentive off of that.
@@donniechaffin6897gonna have to finance with their bank and the interest rate might be through the roof
So what's going to happen when too the next the 2025 units of cars & trucks by this fall ? they can't be selling new 2023's in 2025.
I have never seen a hornet in the wild!! And I live in Los Angeles 😂
Ive got video of hellcats still selling at over 100 grand
Guys, I’m a market analyst and this is something everyone fails to see because they are just looking at the quantity to date. FCA left Stellantis a mess during the transition and for Stellantis part as an overseas carmaker, they were just trying to cater to the popular trend and present vehicles that the customer wanted. Pricing did become an issue but for a while they had customers that were willing to pay anything. As we look at 2024, everyone is harping on inventory. Well what in 2024, does Stellantis have to offer. This large inventory was done on purpose to try to continue to draw sells on the vehicles. The dealers are holding prices because this is a year they have to truly worry about profitability because Stellantis is giving them nothing of value to sell. The Hornet is a failure. The Wagoneer is priced like a Land Rover but built like a Lincoln. Ram pulls out sells eventually but the dealers have worries for 2024 and 2025 is too late to wait for new inventory.
Hard to sell it when everyone has one!😅
Only way I’m buying a 2023 cat is if the price goes to 65k. Anything more I’ll pass