Dunlop Sportmax Q4 Tire Review | Sportbiketrackgear.com
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- Dunlop Sportmax Q4 Tire Review
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A purpose-built track day tire that achieves lean angles of up to 62 degrees, which is more than other street legal tires offered by Dunlop.
User-friendly and designed to offer performance and grip like no other tire on the market. Features on-tread branding and a high-luster finish for a bold look, that is matched by its bold performance.
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Your output is incredible at the moment Mr V ☺
Your reviews are top notch . Great work I really feel I have a much higher comprehension on these tires now that you've explained them .
Thanks for watching! - Brian Van
Definitely wanna try out a set of these. Loved the q3s.
Best review of a new tire I’ve ever watched. Such great rider knowledge and examples to relate to. Spot on! Thank you! I just ordered a pair of Q4’s...
Thanks for watching, happy to hear this was helpful. - Van
instaBlaster...
You've done some of the best product reviews anywhere. Very helpful and insightful. Please keep them coming. How about one on track boots? P.S. A 1:31 and change is moving pretty darn good at Barber. I've only had the opportunity to get on track there once as it always seems to fill up so quickly, especially in the advanced group. Maybe we'll be able to snag a spot this year.
Van really enjoy your videos very informative.
Old man street rider 👍🏻
Thank you for watching my brother! - Van
Awesome found a track day tire so I won’t have to be pressured to get tire warmers faster then my bank account is ready for haha 🤙
Very informative and super helpful review Brian. Thanks
We have a ton of great feedback on these tires now. Thanks for watching! - Van
Great review, theses are what I use on my track day bike.
We have had a ton of great feedback on the Q4's since they have been released. - Van
I just put on the Q4s on my RSV4. Can't wait to test them! Thanks for the review 👍 😁.
A. Avelino did you use them on the street or track only?
I bought a set of Q4's from STG for my 2021 Kawasaki ZX-14. I may have bought "too much tire" but they are AWESOME. We'll see how they wear. I got 4,200 miles out of the stock Bridgestones, and had plenty left on the front. Keep it up guys!
Thank you for your business! - Van
got them on my aprilia tuono factory,like to ride fast from time to time on the street mixed with some sooth ride just for the pleasure.I bought the bike with 5000km on it and now 11 500km at the end of summer and amaizingly all thread is still there and seems good for lot more..wow! I'm in canada so mornings and late drive are often in mid to cold temperature below 15 degrees and the tire always feel safe for the ride and grip to the ground even with brutal accelerations and without having to warm them a lot. i will buy those tire again for sure.highly recommanded!
Thanks for sharing your experience with the Q4's. We have gotten a ton of good feedback on this tire. - Van
Great review. Just put my first set on my panigale...will see how it does tomorrow!
Let us know how you like them once you have ridden on them. Tons of great feedback so far. - Van
Had chance to use these tires on my r6 at my local trackday yesterday and loved them the front end feel is amazing under heavy braking and the rear felt very planted and there really do come up to temp quickly started the day at 32psi front and rear put at the end of the day i found that my drive out the corner felt better at 32psi front and 30psi rear i laughed under my helmet cause thats the same pressure talyor nap found that worked best for him
Thanks for sharing the feedback and happy to hear you liked the Q4's! - Van
One thing that is very very important in tire comparison is tire profile.Every tire I try I use a paper cutout of the tire profile to compare with some of my other tire profiles.There is quite a bit of difference.If you look closely,you can see the difference between the Q3 profile and Q4 profile when flat on counter.The shoulder of the Q4 is more flat and the profile of the Q3 is rounder.
The Q4 is designed for track use more than street riding. While every bike reacts a little differently a rounder profile will steer a little slower than one that is more of a peak with the sides being flatter. When you are leaned over the carcass of the tire will deform increasing size of the contact patch. Construction of the carcass as well as air pressure will influence how much the tire changes shape when loaded up.
Riding on the street you want the bike to be stable, have reasonable levels of grip and transition from upright to leaned over smoothly. On the track having the steer faster is a plus, a front tire with more of a v shape usually gets that done. End of the day there are a lot of variables involved so a tire may feel one way on bike X and a little different on bike Y. For this reason the only way to truly understand a tire is to ride it. - Van
Great review
Thank you for watching! - Van
Excellent review!
On an off note, would you reccomend the Q3+ or Pirelli Diablo Rosso III for pretty hard riding on street and the odd track.
Any input is appriciated!
Both tires have excellent grip so they will be fun to ride on. The Pirelli typically last longer than the Q3+ and the Q3+ has a $50 mail in rebate on sets currently. The only complaint we hear on the Q3+ is they do not last long enough, everyone loves the grip they offer. - Brian Van
always used Michelin but thinking of using Dunlop now!
To be fair all of the major tire manufacturers are offering excellent product at this time. The best way to understand which one is best for you is to give a new tire a shot. - Van
Q4s are pretty solid. I haven’t had any issues.
We have sold a ton of Q4's at this point with nothing but excellent feedback. - Van
Great review Brian! So how do I go about selling my last set of Q3+'s ;)?
Ebay
The Q4 looks similar to the NTEC D211 GP Racer which is one of the best tires I've ever used. Is the Q4 a NTEC too and do you run lower pressures?
Taylor used 32 front and 30 rear COLD pressures with no warmers at the Barber tire test. The rear is not a low pressure tire like most of the race rubber today. - Brian Van
What DOT tire do you recommend to use with tire warmers? Already have purchased them as I wanted to utilize every lap on track days. Thanks!
www.sportbiketrackgear.com/pirelli-tires/race/
I like the Pirelli Supersorsa SC Tires for DOT race tires and the Pirelli Supercorsa Slicks if you prefer a slick tire. You will not find better edge grip IMO. - Van
Hi Brian,
Did you get a chance to ride on this tire at all this year? If so, what did you think? I look forward to your feed back.
I have not but my man Corey has on his S1000RR and he loved them. He rides in advanced at a good pace. - Van
Any mention of heat cycles? By the way great review.
My expectation would be the tires will be worn out before they are negatively affected by heat cycles. This tire was designed to be used as a track day tire without using tire warmers. - Van
Brian,
I wanted to get back to yo about this tire. 1st have you had any track day experience with it? What did you think? I am currently using a Q3+ on a 959 and am over powering the tires on exit. I was thinking of using this tire next. I primarily ride track vs road, 15 track days this season and still counting .
I have not ridden this tire personally, Corey (one of our staffers here at STG) has used them on his S1000RR and he likes them. He said the grip was awesome, everything he expected and then some. With his 1000 he went through the rear tire in 2 days on the race track. He is bringing in the old one so I can take a look at it. I will add Corey is running a fast advanced pace at the track and is not using tire warmers. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear Brian , thanks for the prompt response . He is an advanced track day rider or racer? Two days is fast to burn up s tire. I run tire warmers to decrease heat cycles , I was hoping for 4 days a set. Sounds like high hopes. Thanks for your feedback.
I have always been a fan of Dunlop street tires ( Qualifier IIs etc) until I bought some Metzeler M7 RRs. Absolutely night and day better. Check out the results from last weekends NW200, all but one winner on the German rubber, a few Dunlop pilots pulled out with tire issues.
what do you mean night and day difference? dunlups q3s have never even come close to slipping on me. do metzler tire steer the motorcycle for you or somthing?
You need to ride a bit harder then madam
so you ride so hard that you make q3s lose grip? interesting is your last name rossi?
I feel the same way. M7RR is a stupid good tire.
Metzeler and Pirelli are the same company selling under 2 brands. While their tires are similar often times the Metzeler slicks are different than the Pirelli's. I ride Pirelli slicks on the track and feel they are the best available today (far better than I am a rider for sure). The Q3+ has a very solid reputation, tons of grip with the biggest complaint being they wear fast (the more grip the faster they wear). The Q4 is capable of much faster lap times than the Q3+, completely different tire, built for the track more than the street. - Brian Van
Just had some Q4s put on yesterday as a resort to be the ONLY option left, MYYY O MY, I just don’t think I will go back.
I’m not a pro or have been on track yet but I had Parelli 2s prior to the Q4s and it’s just hitting different. Real different.
I didn’t know what to expect
So is it safe to say that the Q4 won't last as long as the Q3 plus? The Q3 plus rear only lasted 8 canyon sessions (5 Malibu, 1 ACH and 2 SCV) before the sides got down the wire. I don't go by miles bc the center lasts a long time like the original Q3 and old Q2.
Valid question, im keen to get feedback as a supplier said Q4 meant to last longer than Q3 but i doubt it.
I’m thinking of running these on my 2015 CBR1000RR. I can’t stand the 190/50 tire that’s on it currently. The bike feels heavy and lazy when I go to lay it over into a turn with such a flat tire. I’m looking at the 190/55 to help ease leaning the bike over and quicken the flip from side to side. But, would There be any added benefit in going to a 200/55? Or is it an unnecessary size for my bike?
I think the 190/55 would be the way to go for your CBR1000RR. As compared to the 190/50 it should improve the handling. - Van
I would be interested to know how many track days Van is able to get out of a rear
I plan to ride on a set at some point this summer and will update once I have done so. - Van
So did my first race yesterday at my local track and ran my personal best time ever , tires felt great on the two races i did the only issue i had for some reason could not get the rear psi stable started at 30psi cold but had a bit of cold tearing not sure what the temps at the track were but it was hot day but beside that the tires so far felt great
Grom track test!!!..... once Dunlop decides to offer in a 12" tire
TT93, great on the groms!
6:15 those q3's with the tread groves that far into the edge, so they're implying that a bike can seriously lean that far over on wet roads. Sunny no way i can see that without low siding
You can lean a long way if the surface will allow you to do so. I have drug knee though puddles on slicks at Jennings GP in FL over 10 years ago during a Wera endurance race. - Van
i own aprilia 1100 tuono it came with pirelli diablo supercorsa sp v2. was looking at dunlop q4. i dont do track days yet because just got my license. looking for longer lasting tire but without sacrificing quality. liked the q3 but doesn't come in my size 200/55 ZR 17 any other recommendations.
Unfortunately long life and sport tires with lots of grip do not go hand in hand. I would not suggest the Q4 for street only riding. Take a look at the new Michelin Power 5 Tires. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/michelin-power-5-tire-set/
at a tire thats mainly track and can go street. What's the top recommended tire for a liter bike that is mainly street but can go track. I guess its probably the Q3. Or is there something even better?
Take a look at the Q3 or the Michelin Power 5 tires. Both are excellent options. - Van
how would these do if your wimpering home cus it rains halfway through your ride?
They will not be amazing in the rain, good enough to get you home for sure. - Van
I have a question what about for street use twisties ? What are the best pressures cold and hot for street twisties. ?
For the track I would consult the trackside vendor at the event. For the street I would not go below 30psi. - Van
Where I live we have 105* on any typical day outside. How fast would u say those tires would warm up at that temp ?
One lap and you are good to go. - Van
I'm in "A" group on a R6. I've been through 4 complete sets of Q4's. I get 2 trackdays out of them. You could go longer with the front but I swap out both tires at a time.
Thanks for sharing the feedback. Have you tried flipping the rear (assuming you have just one side worn out)? - Van
Sportbike Track Gear I have not. Dunlop rep is saying it’s a one way directional tire. Also, when the edges get completely worn out they slip and slide in dramatic fashion lol. Just a compound that is super sticky but very low lifespan if you’re going a fast pace. I’m thinking I may save money at this point by going to slicks.
For reference I’m doing 1:59’s at Chuckwalla.
I’ve gone 8 days on the front before. Intermediate group. Should’ve changed it a couple days before but didn’t feel horrible. Front tires seem to last forever, but that many cycles it has to be degrading some you would think
This is a bit off topic but since you have the R1M and the new Gixxer, do you think the new Gixxer is close to the R1M in terms of a track bike?
I think the 2017 and up Suzuki GSXR 1000 is as good or better than the R1, especially in stock trim. The ergos of the Suzuki fit me much better than the R1 did. My expectations are I will be able to ride this bike faster than the R1 once I have it all dialed in. Still on stock suspension and geometry now. - Van
Thanks Van. Appreciate the honest view.
The shop just put one of these on my Yamaha Warrior. Not sure if it fits the style of the bike yet, but the sides are crazy sticky!
How are these in comparison to the pirelli rosso 3?
I have not ridden on the Rosso 3 but we have staffers who have turned some very fast laps on the Q4. Taylor Knapp ran the fastest laps of the weekend at Mid Ohio this year on the Q4 as well. This is a very capable tire. - Van
I wonder if these are a rival for the Supercora SP or the SC's..
I would compare these to the Supercorsa SP Tires not the SC. SC tires are full race tires and the SP are the track day tires (DOT as well) like the new Dunlop Q4 tires are. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear thanks, a different review was referencing the SC as the alternative from Pirelli which sounds wrong to me. Thanks for confirming.
Somehow my shop installed a front q4 on my Suzuki gsxr 600 I am a street rider will I be fine on the streets ? Taking in consideration I live in Texas hit and wet conditions at the same time !
The Q3+ is a much better tire for the street than the Q4 is. - Van
You will be fine. If you decide to push it hard, give the tires like a 2 minutes to heat-up (semi-fast cornering, and hard throttle + braking [not mid corner tho]). This applies to most tires
The biggest question, how does it compare to the Supercorsa SC series.
The Pirelli Supercorsa SC are the full on race tires so they will out perform the Dunlop Q4 as they should. The Pirelli SP tire is the one I would compare to the Dunlop. - Van
Thanks for the reply Van, so would this Q4 more so compete with the SP V3 or SP V2 that are currently out?
@@vicati7536 From what I have heard yes!
@@sportbiketrackgear im looking to go Q4 from the SP2 , what I will lose and gain in this move?
How do these compare to the supercorsa sp v3?
We have a ton of excellent feedback on the Q4 for the track. IMO these two tires would have a similar level of performance and life. - Van
I would like to know about mileage on these tires, iguess i have to wait for more input. I understand is more a track tire, but would be nice have some good mileage for street on it like the q3+, I hope.
We won't know this until they have been out for a while. My expectations would be they will not last as long as the Q3+ tires do. There are a lot of factors that go into tire life such as the bike being ridden, pace the bike is being ridden at, the track they are ridden on etc... - Van
I need a track tire for 06 Honda cbr rr 600 what iu suggest for this motorcycle, rom mario. Sunday 3/22/2020
I would go with the Dunlop Q4 120/70/17 front and 180/55/17 rear. Here is a link to them on our site: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/dunlop-sportmax-q4-tire-set/ - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear thx . I also need for this motorcycle to hall ass on freeway and city sreet but i dont want to slip i livein Orange county California, am thinking
Q4 ON FRONT and perilli corsa 2 in rear
CN write to me back thx
Or. Q4 IN FRONT AND PERILLI ANGEL IN REAR. CAN you write to me thx
I wish they made a q3+ with the same tread pattern as the 4
That would end up confusing a lot of people. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear probably. But it would make me happy 😆
This might have been answered. Since it does not require tire warmers, how does the tire respond to repeat heat cycles?
They are designed to handle heat cycles they are exposed to over their expected life cycle. We have received a ton of solid feedback on these tires since they were introduced. - Van
Ah.. The ever present myth of heat cycles....
I can't find this Q4 in Europe.
We do ship internationally. Not sure if Dunlop exports these tires or not. - Van
I ride hard in filthy streets what's the lifetime on these tyres
These are really more of a track day tire than they are a high mileage street tire. You can run them on the street, they just won't last very long. - Van
Just took my bike in for service, it needed new tires. I’m 100% a street rider, and they put these on it. I’m intimidated now.
These will have a ton of grip on the street for sure. They will be great if you ride the bike hard and like to corner low. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear do y’all have a review in the wet? I do ride in the rain, I don’t want to crash lmao.
That tire will not last on the street. I got maybe 1700 miles, and that's only if your not always riding hard and really pushing the tire b4 I had to swap. I love that Q4 tire but my current tire is the perelli Angle GT. So I could get more miles per $ cause I don't always push the bike to its potential. But the Q4 is a damn solid tire. Never had 1 slip on that tire. After about 400 miles I had ZERO doubts in the tire and that's a good feeling one I can't say about the Angel GT. My next tire will be another Q4 despite the mileage. It's worth every penny. Try it and you'll love it, if your one that loves laying the bike down in the curves with confidence.
The Q4 is meant for ultimate grip not long life. This is one step away from a full race tire. - Van
Thanks for the info I don’t ride allot maybe 1000 miles a year cause of the winters in NY but when I ride I like to take the back roads and want a dot track day tire to give me more confidence and dial in the suspension better. Small price to pay if I only have to change them yearly
I had my q3 plus at 27 hot in rear and 36 hot upfront , i had tons of grip. Can you run lower psi on the q4? I feel a peace of mind knowing its gripping more
For the Q4 I would stick with the pressures we note in the video, remember we got them from Taylor Knapp direct so they are the same pressures he ran on the track in testing. - Van
Theres a workable window, less pressure might give more grip for a lap, but then the tyre overheats and you lose grip. Its all in your mind....Stick with the recommendation...
Fuck it , I installed a Bridgestone 22 brand new in rear 180-55-17 , and i still have a lot of meat in front Bridgestone 21, am taking it easy with new rear tire , but more i ride i can fell littlle bit more traction, pulling in to my naghborhood, i cant wait to i put the
Bridgestone 22 to the the test, in the rear.
What did also is i purchased the Dunlop
Q4 for my front tire its on stand by, so i willbe running Bridgestone 22 rear & Dunlop Q4 for tne rear. For my 06 Honda cbr 600 rr, so tell me if am freaking crazy, you guys , what your thoughts ! Ps i run 34 in front and 39 rear psi, i cant wait till i install the q4 in front, from mario. 6-15-20 6:25 pm
I have mix and matched tires before and never had a problem. - Van
Is pilot power 2ct good?
The Pilot Power 2ct is more of a street tire where the Q4's are designed to be used on the track more than the street. We have used the 2ct's on the track in the past and feel they are a good tire for a street rider that wants to get a good mix of performance and life. On the track the 2ct is not a bad tire for novice or early intermediate riders. - Van
Sportbike Track Gear ok, bought a bike with a new rear 2ct and front 2ct needs to be replaced. I don’t know if I should get a new 2ct front or replace both with q3+. I usually corner as hard as I can on highway ramps and curvy roads.
Now tell us the bad news. Price tag....
A set with a 120/70 front and 180/55 rear currently runs $324.03. Not horrible for race level rubber IMO. If they last longer than full on race tires this would not be a bad deal. Once these are have been used by enough riders to get good feedback on the life we will update you all. - Van
160?
Sorry man they are only doing the big bike sizes in this tire now. What are you riding? - Van
Sportbike Track Gear sv650,
Track only, but don't want to run warmers
We are using Michelin Power RS Tires on the STG R3, solid without warmers. I have used that tire on the 17 SV during the Roadracing World Middleweight Bike Shootout and really liked them a lot. We did not use warmers on the bikes and I felt confident enough to drag knee in less than a lap. Check out the Power RS: www.sportbiketrackgear.com/michelin-power-rs-tire-set/
- Van
Definitely interested in the rs, I'm currently running the Q3, they are great, but I prefer the profile and tip in feel of Michelin pilot powers, have you heard much about the new pirelli Rosso Corsa 2? It looks like they make a160, ?
Me with SportMax’s on my nitrous hayabusa: Man I’ll smoke anyone running that Q4 on the street. 🤣
Q4 is really more of a track day tire. - Van
7:00 sure ok but his career if long time and tires many years ago can't compete with tires of today, so that's kind of an arbitrary suggestion now .
When you try to push a street tire on the track it will hold heat more than a race tire. When this happens it becomes unpredictable. Statement is still totally relevant. - Van
the STG suit was moving....
We have more on order, they should arrive towards the end of summer. - Van
@@sportbiketrackgear the STG suit on his right.... is moving if you press left and right arrow keys on your keyboard to fast forward or rewind the video.
I bought the Q3+ from yall last year and today a big hunk of rubber came off. I don't track ride i just ride my bike to work and back.This was on my front tire and now I'm going to have to try and ride it back home like that. I wish I could post a picture of my tire on here so everyone can see the quality of tire that i got. I would stay away from the any Q tire
Sorry for the issue, we do not see many issues with the Q3+. Have you reached out to our customer service department? If this is a manufacturing issue Dunlop has been excellent to work with. Shoot us an email or call so we can help you get sorted out. Orders@sportbiketrackgear.com or 888.784.4327 - Van
Theres nothing wrong with Dunlops or Q3+. Anything can happen on the street, you cant just make statement like that
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