For sure on this one! RM has a reputation for not being the most respectful or appreciative person, but he was both (and then some) here! Catching a pass from Montana is still on my bucket list. If he ever goes broke he could charge like $5,000 a throw for people to catch a pass from him and I guarantee he'd have people lining up!
@Melo Bryant But Tom had something nobody has, an intelligence agency or a cheating franchise that allowed Tom to operate his offense with fresh and forward knowledge of defensive setups. It would be wise for the crybaby cheater to retire now. Once he starts playing for the Bucs, he will expose his weaknesses and announce to the football world that he is indeed an ordinary QB.
Goat. No way anyone can argue against the GOAT. 4 SUPER BOWLS . 3 M V Ps. 0 and I mean 0 picks in 4 ' count em 4 super bowls. Woulda had 5 rings and the ONLY 3 PEAT ever if not for that 89 hit.
John Taylor was no chump. Remember, Bill Walsh ran rhe west coast offense. Moss doesnt play slot where rhe WC is most effective. The best reciever to fit on the other side of Rice (Besides JT) would be Tim Brown, Art Monk or even Larry Fitzgerald. Honorable mention: Chris Carter.
I don't know if Montana or Brady is the greatest... but I do know that both of them are well-mannered, classy professionals who deserve the accolades they receive.
@@mikemichael2317 I grew up watching Randy Moss as a kid and the Randy I remembered was a trash talking, loud mouthed and hilariously outspoken cocky WR which he had the right to be since he was the best. I had never seen him conduct an interview before so it took me back to see that WR I remember watching growing up turn into a great interviewer. Surprised me how naturally it came to him. Pretty sick
PatsDynasty Yes lets compare Joe fucking Montana to eli manning.Hell why youre at we will throw in Jim McMahon and Trent Dilfer because they never lost either.
mathiasmorqubus yea lets do it since its the only retarded argument u montana fans have brady beats in 97% of statistical categories including playoffs
I'm a Brady fan, and I don't care. Golden Joe is easily the greatest quarterback that's ever played the game. I'm sure Brady himself would agree with that. There's nothing wrong with being second best.
Sorry but if Montana and Moss had hooked up.......every thing before them would have been called BC. I truly believe that the presence of Montana would have kept a young Moss in line and hungry..the numbers would have been off the charts. Greatest QB and most talented Wide Out Ever!!!!
Lucky Lucanio the problem is that both Owens and Rice wanted the football. Moss wants to win football games. Get him some big plays too, with Rice on the other side nobody is going to bracket cover him. They would have been just fine, and rewrote all the records.
nah...although gifted, moss didn't have the work ethic, stamina or drive of a jerry rice or montana...talent's overrated...rice came out of mississippi state and joe drafted in the third round...both, greatest of all time...
Montana didn't have the arm to take advantage of Moss's freaky deep speed. Looks good on paper, but realistically, Jerry Rice was perfectly suited for Montana because of precise route running and run after the catch ability and agility. Someone like Marvin Harrison would have been perfect for Montana. Marino and Moss? Now that would have been unstoppable.
I am a Cowboys fan and still remember the draft when they took Greg Ellis. He was a good defensive lineman. Randy Moss, the football player, was great. No I don't lose any sleep over it like I did when it happened but it hasn't gotten somehow better over the years. :) I don't even know if I spelled Greg's last name right.
I know that was just a simple throw across a table. You could see the glint in Joes eye and the ease of which Randy can catch. Imagine those two played together in their prime sheesh.
If he played for Kansas City, the hit didn't end his career. He probably would have won a super bowl with them if not for Marty Shottenhiemer playing percentages instead of just trusting Joe to win the game.
IMO, Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time...4 Super Bowl championships...(yah, I know, there's that other guy who won 4 in Pittsburgh...but uhhh nooo, don't even go there)....props to Randy Moss for his respect for the legend.....Randy is arguably the SECOND greatest receiver of all time...the FIRST??...thay other guy Joe used to throw to in San Francisco....nooooo, not John Taylor...lol
I think you need to go deeper in your analysis of who is the greatest receiver of all time. It's too simplistic to just say first, second, end of discussion. But, yes, they are the top two hands down. Here are some specific criteria and how Moss and Rice compare. 1. Work ethic/discipline - You wouldn't think it from listening to the stereotypes, but Moss trained hard. Take a look at videos of his off season workouts in 90 degree Florida heat. Yet, nobody comes close to Rice. He and Walter Payton were probably the hardest workers in NFL history (and maybe the most competitive). 2. Consistency/longevity/stats - This is an offshoot of the 1st category and, again, Jerry Rice wins. His diligence, professionalism, preparation, and consistent play translated into a marathon career and stratospheric stats well above Moss', although Randy is #2 in history in most categories. Conversely, Moss was mercurial, especially when defenses could neutralize the long ball. And, of course, his controversial attitude didn't help his longevity. 3. Hands - Toss up. Both had the gift. Maybe Moss gets the edge simply because he caught so many balls with 2 guys hanging on him and could easily catch a ball with one hand when his other was impaired. 4. Pure atheticism/speed - Here's where you could make the case that Moss is the greatest receiver of all time. Rice doesn't even come close to Moss' speed, height, wing span, and jumping abilities. Rice was part of a new West Coast offense that changed defensive schemes and revolutionized the game. Yet Moss INDIVIDUALLY revolutionized the game. Other teams had to create new defensive schemes to try to stop Moss ALONE. Teams in the NFC Central Division began drafting more taller and faster cornerbacks and safeties when Moss came on the scene just to stop him. Ole' "Go Fetch Randy" was a true disruptive force... a paradigm shift. 5. Big play threat - Again, Moss has the edge because, in his prime, defenses always had to stack against the long ball and then Moss might beat them with a short sideline catch followed by an 80 yard TD run. If you couldn't impede him immediately after a quick catch, Moss' acceleration and 4.2 speed would leave 5 or 6 defenders clutching at air. Conversely, Rice was much better than Moss at extending plays in traffic and up the middle. What he lacked in speed, he made up for with quick feet, all around strength, and elusiveness. 6. All around skills - No question, Rice wins here. His more compact size helped make him more versatile than Moss. He could simply do more things well which is why he rarely was shut down in a game. 7. Coming through in big games - Moss can't compete with Rice here. First, Moss' post season stats are mediocre compared to his career stats. Rice's post season stats are stellar (Super Bowl MVP, etc). Second, Moss simply didn't have as many chances to distinguish himself in post season play as Rice did. Had he appeared in 3 Super Bowls like Rice, he might have had some big games. Because of his big game performances and his stats, I'd give the nod to Rice, but the "who's the greatest" question is far from a no brainer.
Jerry Rice used Stickum (a banned substance from the NFL) ugh uhhh looks like that title belongs to Moss and I don't even wanna get into this Brady Montana debate Brady is the greatest to ever do it compare his numbers against Montana's
@@thegoat164 try to be more of a homer😂Brady only says that to be humble, he knows he’s the GOAT. Literally every HOF calls Brady the GOAT. Brady has passed Montana in everything and even one a ring outside of New England. Did Montana win a ring on another team?🤔😂
Are you serious? I would love to see how Brady would've survived against those defenses of the time. I would also love to see Montana play with all of the rules that are enforced in today's game(which is heavily favored for the offense). And one more thing... Brady couldn't scramble to save his life. If the pocket collapses then it's an automatic sack for the defense... you put Montana in that same position and it's a completely different story. P.S. It took Brady 6 Superbowl tries to break Montana's touchdown record, and Montana NEVER threw an interception in his 4 Superbowl appearances... so I would take 4-0 vs 4-2 any day.
U do know Brady played in the early to mid '00s when defenses could still play defense right? There's literally a video out there of Brady taking a huge hit against the Bills and getting right back up quickly (Look it up). I'd like to see Montana take a huge hit like that and get up... 6 year old comment so I'm sure you've changed your mind by now, and btw, 4-2 is better than 4-0.....
@@TragicHeroe Brady also hung around longer than Montana did. Had Montana played until he was a million years old too, he'd more than likely would've been right up there on all those hot stats before Brady came on the field.
as loooooonnngg time member of the Niner Faithful i would honestly say that it would be a dream come true to be able to catch a pass from the legendary Joe Montana
I don't know why but Joe Montana looks like an actor. I would've never guessed the first time I saw him that he was a quarterback. Plus he looks so familiar outside of football.
If I was you I would watch the whole season when he broke the 23 touchdown record. You obviously don't keep up with him, I have been keeping up with him ever since Marshall
Moss and Rice - it's always a debate, but nobody debates who is the most gifted athlete of the two. And what if Randy Moss had spent the majority of his career catching passes from Joe Montana and Steve Young? I don't even want to think about it because I respect both Randy Moss and Jerry Rice so much. Edit: And yeah, I'm a Cowboys fan, but Montana is at the top of my all-time QB list. I watched him play in the 80's and early 90's. No QB has been as thrilling and clutch.
I miss Randy Moss on the Vikings, there's was nothing like watching him catch the long bombs against the fudge Packers. I jumped out of my seat pumping my fists a million times watching him catch touchdowns against the Packers.
Joe took the laughing stalk of the NFL a place no one wanted to play, a place that took a coach who the rest of the league was black balling because they were so desperate for any success. A team that went back to back years of 2-14 and he turned them into a dynasty and got 4 rings in 9 years. Brady took over a team a team just a few years removed from a super bowl appearance themselves, who had just one bad season before he got there with anyone in that current staff and it took him 14 years to get 4 rings and he had a drought of 10 years of not getting a ring. Had joe had the protection rules we have today the man would have had more. It took hits that are illegal today to have even beaten the man. So don't give me the whole Brady does more with less. Defenses are having to do less these days. Plus Brady has played more games with Gronk than Joe had with any 49er
Joe was 37 and Steven Young was a 30 year old MVP in his prime. I understand the situation. Steve brought a few more super bowls to SF after the trade.
I dunno, Montana just got back from a elbow injury and he has age a lot. He's been getting injured all the time too. So it only make since to go with the younger Steve Young. Joe would have been crush by the Cowboys defense at the time with his constant injuries.
All good things must come to an end at some point. Joe was getting older, as was Ronnie Lott, Roger Craig, and others. The 49er's at some point had to start planning and building towards the "future." Steve Young trained with Montana with the ultimate plan to succeed him. Everyone, including Joe was aware of this. We would have Loved to see Bill Walsh remain with the 49er's, or many others, but it was time for them to go to make room for other or younger talent. That's how it works and the name of the game in the NFL. :-)
first of all disrespect to the legend jerry rice....speaking of a moss fan....other than brady, if moss had a chance to work with legends or top great QBs in his earlier days unarguably moss would have been the greatest wide receiver to grace the field including having rings and had broken more receiving records
one thing is for sure. if randy moss played with joe for a few years he would have had a championship. montana never went more than 3 yrs without a sb win.
Joe Montana getting four was huge, I really thought that wouldn't be broken....just too tough. Along comes Tom, and I can't imagine anyone getting more than seven now. But....who knows....maybe.
***** I agree but he did kind of get carried sometimes by irvin and emitt. Jimmy J handled the personalities but i agree winning three in any era is a tough thing to do. Bradshaw got carried by his defense even though he played well so he doesn't make my top 5. Unitas definitely could make it over marino but i think marino was the better passer. idk they are all legends it's just how you wanna split em. The top three imo are a lock tho, regardless of order.
+bcmoykg if u look at his stats it was really average tbh.. he only had one year throwing over 20 tds..he never reached over 3500 in passing ever.. he got in cause of the superbowls.. look at his superbowl days he had 11, 23 , 12.. the dallas was what the alabama is in football now.. a great rb and good defense a great wr and a average qb.. my list is montana brady elway manning farve
jkthaballa absolutely i can agree with that. Even notable NFL analysts say that michael irvin MADE aikman a HOFer. He still has three rings and there's a lot to be said about that but as far as being a HOF QB i don't even have him in my top 10. You can't put him in 6-10 because you can't put him ahead of guys like steve young, roger stauhbach, bart starr, bradshaw, etc.
well... on my list i have brees #1 manning #2 brady #3 montana #4 and favre #5. i feel like people dont give drew brees and payton manning the credit they deserve because of their lack of defenses... if ty law didnt pick off kurt warner and returned it for a td the patriots wouldve lost that 2002 superbowl, if ty law didnt pick off payton manning 3 times in the 2004 afc championship game the pats wouldve never made it to the superbowl, if brady defense didnt get 4 turnovers in the 2005 superbowl brady wouldve never won that superbowl, and who's to say that if malcom butler didnt pick off russel wilson the seahawks wouldnt have won the 2014 superbowl? it is very possible that brady couldve had 0 rings if he had no defence. and joe montana played with 6 other hall of famers throughout his career and one of those hall of famers he played with used stickum... i know you're probably thinking that manning played with 2 hall of fame receiver but what was marvin harrison and reggie wayne when they didnt have payton manning? outside of jimmy graham how many above average receivers brees had? i put brees ahead of manning because even tho manning hold most qb records brees is on pace to eclipse all of manning stats if he play as long, plus he hold the record for the highest completion % in a career even tho the other team know he's going to throw the all 40+ times a game. and i should mention... drew brees completed atleast 72% of his passes in his last 6 games and atleast 77% in 4 of those 6 games. also drew brees steps his game up whenever the saints make the playoffs.
You didn't see Randy Moss here, in front of Joe Montana "claiming" status of the Greatest Wide-Receiver!! Moss knew better then to flap that crap in Joe's presence!! LOL
Tyson Before......Please tell me why ya think he was the only one to use stick em during that time and how his work out regiment and timely precise routes and run after the catch didn't matter. lol
ryan49er1 I dont give a fuck if everybody used it imo it had no effect on Rice fact of the matter is the shit is illegal im so tired of the double standard against the Patriots everybody did spygate but the Patriots got caught doing it and all hell broke loose and boy dont even mention deflategate countless amount of Qbs admitted to playing with under inflated footballs hell Aaron even said he plays with his balls over the PSI (Which is illegal) but good old Tom Brady and the cheating Patriots get caught up in it 1M dollar fine loss of 1st and 4th round draft picks and Brady gets a longer suspension then Ray Rice initially when the standard punishment is a 25k fine for ball tampering like are u fucking serious
And I agree he should have played his career with the 49ers he might have won another Super Bowl to maybe even two the only reason Steve Young won because he had Joe Montana's team
It's funny how we remember the past. Each player only plays in his own era. Don't get me wrong. I'm from the Bay area and the run the 49er's had was great. Montana always seemed cool,calm and collected. He'd done his homework. So..... How many interceptions did he throw in the NFC championship game against the freaking Starheads? The game known for "The Catch"? THREE! That's right fellow 49er fans. Three fucking interceptions! They were lucky to win. Nay! They won despite a not stellar performance by Montana. I'm sure dirt could be dug up about Brady,Manning, God himself. We marvel at grown men playing a child's game. It's a game for children!
Yeah Kansas City had a pretty good defense cuz they had Derrick Thomas and I guess with the addition of Joe Montana and Marcus Allen the offense was above average... But there was one more problem that they didn't realize that they did have... Marty schottenheimer!! He couldn't coach a championship mouse in a cheese eating contest!!
Big thumbs up to Moss for treating Joe with such respect. He seemed like a kid around a legend. Loved it.
ktbeatty in my opinion the greatest QB to ever play in the NFL
For sure on this one! RM has a reputation for not being the most respectful or appreciative person, but he was both (and then some) here! Catching a pass from Montana is still on my bucket list. If he ever goes broke he could charge like $5,000 a throw for people to catch a pass from him and I guarantee he'd have people lining up!
Greatness respect greatness.. Real respect real. They both earned everything in thier career no doubts
Kurt Adams Bullshit I would take Tom Brady Drew Brees Peyton Manning Brett Favre John Elway and Dan Marino all before I Would get to Joe Montana
instablaster.
As a wide receiver, that's gotta be an dream come true for Randy.
Why? He caught 23 tds in a single season from the greatest QB to ever live on this Earth
blankshell
No, I'm sure Randy would rather catch football's from Tom Brady than Joe.
blankshell tom brady cheated been using supplement drug !!!
Exactly!
@@israelp348
It is definitely easier to do that for NE. The crybaby and the Cheatriots knew exactly what the other side was going to do.
In my opinion the Greatest Player to ever play QB in the NFL
You are not alone dude. Many feel Joes the best ever. Putting bradys name next to Joes is a insult. Brady cheated ' montana simply was FLAWLESS.
@Melo Bryant
But Tom had something nobody has, an intelligence agency or a cheating franchise that allowed Tom to operate his offense with fresh and forward knowledge of defensive setups. It would be wise for the crybaby cheater to retire now. Once he starts playing for the Bucs, he will expose his weaknesses and announce to the football world that he is indeed an ordinary QB.
@@tomwolak3362 the 49ers were one of the biggest cheating teams of all time.
@@GBSaSu
The Niners are the greatest franchise in sports.
Pat Mahomes
that catch broke Jerry Rice's record
Never mind this was a coo little joke statement
JOE MONTANA, coolest name in football.
worddd:)
That’s why he’s joe cool....
Goat. No way anyone can argue against the GOAT. 4 SUPER BOWLS . 3 M V Ps. 0 and I mean 0 picks in 4 ' count em 4 super bowls. Woulda had 5 rings and the ONLY 3 PEAT ever if not for that 89 hit.
@@tomwolak3362 yep they would’ve won in 1990 vs. Bills if he doesn’t get hit
@@tomwolak3362 yea that "no interceptions in the big game" stat is overrated he almost threw a pick to the bengals that almost cost them the game
These guys throw and catch so effortlessly and smoothly... I would have
1) Thrown wildly &
2) Dropped the pass
Amazing :)
Lol
The dude still has it!!!!!! Just Legendary
Imagine if Joe Montana had Rice and Moss on the same team.. MANoMAN
T.o. too
Kobe Hannible they wouldn't need/want T.O. if they had Randy
Trenton Noble he would have 6 rings easily
John Taylor was no chump. Remember, Bill Walsh ran rhe west coast offense. Moss doesnt play slot where rhe WC is most effective. The best reciever to fit on the other side of Rice (Besides JT) would be Tim Brown, Art Monk or even Larry Fitzgerald. Honorable mention: Chris Carter.
Imagine if Brady had moss and rice
Joe Montana is the greatest QB who ever stepped on a football field! Winner in college; winner in Pros! Nuff said!
6 Brady=goat
Brady is the GOAT
Not anymore, Brady dethroned him
Brady 7
Brady may be the GOAT but if I had to take a QB to play in the Superbowl I would choose the undefeated Joe Cool. Man is the MJ of the NFL.
I was 9 years old when i saw the catch ill mever forget that game i became a real football fan that day.
Did you see that pass?! He still has it! From the chair!
YES 👍!!!!!! In 2020 !!!!!
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I don't know if Montana or Brady is the greatest... but I do know that both of them are well-mannered, classy professionals who deserve the accolades they receive.
Well said..
Bullcrap. Brady cheated winning 2 of his. He shoulda been banned along with cheating bellichek.
Joe never got suspended for 4 games due to cheating
@@scottfree6479 joe montana won 2 of his super bowls in his era without jerry rice
@@tomwolak3362 If that were true(it’s not), then he’d still have 5 superbowls. More than any other play in the history of the NFL.
Joe Cool Montana...In my humble opinion, the greatest QB
Sheesh, if Montana was in his prime today and with all the new rules he'd pick DB's apart.
Anthony Hernandez totally agree
So would Brett!!
Imagine what Elway, Dan Marino, and Steve Young would do.
@@donaldbletsoe5148
Brett is a choker. If Mike Holmgren had a Joe Montana, he would have won at least 2 more SBs.
Randy is surprisingly a GREAT interviewer
Why is it surprising?
@@mikemichael2317 I grew up watching Randy Moss as a kid and the Randy I remembered was a trash talking, loud mouthed and hilariously outspoken cocky WR which he had the right to be since he was the best. I had never seen him conduct an interview before so it took me back to see that WR I remember watching growing up turn into a great interviewer. Surprised me how naturally it came to him. Pretty sick
I hate to admit it the best SB QB of all time is Joe Montana!
Ugh u might wanna look again Brady has more Yds Tds completions and game winning drives then Montana in the SB lmao
Tyson Montana never lost a Super Bowl.
mathiasmorqubus neither has Eli Manning whats your point here?
PatsDynasty Yes lets compare Joe fucking Montana to eli manning.Hell why youre at we will throw in Jim McMahon and Trent Dilfer because they never lost either.
mathiasmorqubus yea lets do it since its the only retarded argument u montana fans have brady beats in 97% of statistical categories including playoffs
The greatest.
The Brady fanboys aren't going to like this video after hearing Randy Moss called Joe the greatest NFL QB.
I'm a Brady fan, and I don't care. Golden Joe is easily the greatest quarterback that's ever played the game. I'm sure Brady himself would agree with that. There's nothing wrong with being second best.
He said arguably
TheZekk34 he's not even second....I rank Peyton, Elway, even Bradshaw ahead of him LOL
He saidd arguably
Will Drucker what bout now
Sorry but if Montana and Moss had hooked up.......every thing before them would have been called BC. I truly believe that the presence of Montana would have kept a young Moss in line and hungry..the numbers would have been off the charts. Greatest QB and most talented Wide Out Ever!!!!
Jerry Rice couldn't stand Terrell wrote Owens. Do u think he would've gotten along better with Moss?!
Lucky Lucanio the problem is that both Owens and Rice wanted the football. Moss wants to win football games. Get him some big plays too, with Rice on the other side nobody is going to bracket cover him. They would have been just fine, and rewrote all the records.
nah...although gifted, moss didn't have the work ethic, stamina or drive of a jerry rice or montana...talent's overrated...rice came out of mississippi state and joe drafted in the third round...both, greatest of all time...
The key around his neck is the key to coolness
Montana didn't have the arm to take advantage of Moss's freaky deep speed. Looks good on paper, but realistically, Jerry Rice was perfectly suited for Montana because of precise route running and run after the catch ability and agility. Someone like Marvin Harrison would have been perfect for Montana.
Marino and Moss? Now that would have been unstoppable.
Brady and moss for 15 instead of one );
True statement.
That’s why Marvin and manning is the best duo in football history.
I think moss and elway would be a great combo....
B Rumph boi elway had an arm.
Ice J indeed he did. Him to moss would be unfair. Lol
B Rumph he is my favourite qb. His ints are pretty high though
I am a Cowboys fan and still remember the draft when they took Greg Ellis. He was a good defensive lineman. Randy Moss, the football player, was great. No I don't lose any sleep over it like I did when it happened but it hasn't gotten somehow better over the years. :) I don't even know if I spelled Greg's last name right.
I LOVE Moss so much man he is such a cool dude
I know that was just a simple throw across a table.
You could see the glint in Joes eye and the ease of which Randy can catch. Imagine those two played together in their prime sheesh.
Montana to Moss...Awesome 🔥
I love Joe, but Bill Walsh was a genius and knew exactly what he was doing
Joe Montana would had more rings as 49er if leonard marshall didnt end his career sending him to Kansas
If he played for Kansas City, the hit didn't end his career. He probably would have won a super bowl with them if not for Marty Shottenhiemer playing percentages instead of just trusting Joe to win the game.
Plus he woulda had the ONLY 3 peat ever.Goat. no question or doubt.
Joe can still throw a pass flawlessly even after almost 30 years of retirement.
Truly enjoyed watching Mr. Montana's career back in the 80's, so glad I was there to witness it.
Greatest QB of all time throwing to the greatest WR of all time.
Also brady > Montana
wrothacker4 wrong. Wrong.
Rice. Brady.
Brady is the goat now and has been since 2016
Joe montana best all time 4-0 superbowl era
Right! Also don't forget 11 TD's and 0 Int's in those Super Bowls. He's the G.O.A.T!
Hes not the goat anymore 😂😂😂😂 move aside Montana it's bradys throne now
Michael cooks jr I woulda agreed 3 years ago but Brady is 5-2 with the greatet comeback ever... thrones passed
alex creed How many Super Bowls did Montana lose?
MisterTwister he won 4, he GOT to 4, Brady got to 7, he WON 5
I'm sure Joe Cool knows himself he's the great QB all time.
4-0
argument ends
***** but does he have 11 TD's 0 INT's
***** QB to QB though Terry doesn't compare.
***** Bradshaw 4-0..hahahha..as Michael Andrews so eloquently stated...Argument "STILL ENDS"
Brady 5-2
argument ends
IMO, Joe Montana is the greatest quarterback of all time...4 Super Bowl championships...(yah, I know, there's that other guy who won 4 in Pittsburgh...but uhhh nooo, don't even go there)....props to Randy Moss for his respect for the legend.....Randy is arguably the SECOND greatest receiver of all time...the FIRST??...thay other guy Joe used to throw to in San Francisco....nooooo, not John Taylor...lol
I think you need to go deeper in your analysis of who is the greatest receiver of all time. It's too simplistic to just say first, second, end of discussion. But, yes, they are the top two hands down. Here are some specific criteria and how Moss and Rice compare.
1. Work ethic/discipline - You wouldn't think it from listening to the stereotypes, but Moss trained hard. Take a look at videos of his off season workouts in 90 degree Florida heat. Yet, nobody comes close to Rice. He and Walter Payton were probably the hardest workers in NFL history (and maybe the most competitive).
2. Consistency/longevity/stats - This is an offshoot of the 1st category and, again, Jerry Rice wins. His diligence, professionalism, preparation, and consistent play translated into a marathon career and stratospheric stats well above Moss', although Randy is #2 in history in most categories. Conversely, Moss was mercurial, especially when defenses could neutralize the long ball. And, of course, his controversial attitude didn't help his longevity.
3. Hands - Toss up. Both had the gift. Maybe Moss gets the edge simply because he caught so many balls with 2 guys hanging on him and could easily catch a ball with one hand when his other was impaired.
4. Pure atheticism/speed - Here's where you could make the case that Moss is the greatest receiver of all time. Rice doesn't even come close to Moss' speed, height, wing span, and jumping abilities. Rice was part of a new West Coast offense that changed defensive schemes and revolutionized the game. Yet Moss INDIVIDUALLY revolutionized the game. Other teams had to create new defensive schemes to try to stop Moss ALONE. Teams in the NFC Central Division began drafting more taller and faster cornerbacks and safeties when Moss came on the scene just to stop him. Ole' "Go Fetch Randy" was a true disruptive force... a paradigm shift.
5. Big play threat - Again, Moss has the edge because, in his prime, defenses always had to stack against the long ball and then Moss might beat them with a short sideline catch followed by an 80 yard TD run. If you couldn't impede him immediately after a quick catch, Moss' acceleration and 4.2 speed would leave 5 or 6 defenders clutching at air. Conversely, Rice was much better than Moss at extending plays in traffic and up the middle. What he lacked in speed, he made up for with quick feet, all around strength, and elusiveness.
6. All around skills - No question, Rice wins here. His more compact size helped make him more versatile than Moss. He could simply do more things well which is why he rarely was shut down in a game.
7. Coming through in big games - Moss can't compete with Rice here. First, Moss' post season stats are mediocre compared to his career stats. Rice's post season stats are stellar (Super Bowl MVP, etc). Second, Moss simply didn't have as many chances to distinguish himself in post season play as Rice did. Had he appeared in 3 Super Bowls like Rice, he might have had some big games.
Because of his big game performances and his stats, I'd give the nod to Rice, but the "who's the greatest" question is far from a no brainer.
john taylor is seriously underrated in the history of wide receivers in nfl history
James West absolutely. the guy was among the greats.but not everyone gets the cred
Jerry Rice used Stickum (a banned substance from the NFL) ugh uhhh looks like that title belongs to Moss and I don't even wanna get into this Brady Montana debate Brady is the greatest to ever do it compare his numbers against Montana's
Tyson
The G.O.A.T Joe Cool!!!!!!💯💯💯💯💯
GOAT...... what else can you say
@@scottfree6479
Crybrady has the phoniest resume I have ever seen in my life.
@@thegoat164 Montana himself called Brady the GOAT and so did Rice. Cry about it
@@Speedy-pb6dc
Crybrady said MONTANA GOAT....cry about it. Rice has a GOAT tattoo on his arm...self explanatory.
@@thegoat164 try to be more of a homer😂Brady only says that to be humble, he knows he’s the GOAT. Literally every HOF calls Brady the GOAT. Brady has passed Montana in everything and even one a ring outside of New England. Did Montana win a ring on another team?🤔😂
That is cool! I know the Joe Montana Legacy. Joe Montana is the G.O.A.T. Quarterback.
The difference between Montana and Brady? Joe had to take hits without penalties which denied him to playing 20+ years imho the GOAT.
Are you serious? I would love to see how Brady would've survived against those defenses of the time. I would also love to see Montana play with all of the rules that are enforced in today's game(which is heavily favored for the offense). And one more thing... Brady couldn't scramble to save his life. If the pocket collapses then it's an automatic sack for the defense... you put Montana in that same position and it's a completely different story. P.S. It took Brady 6 Superbowl tries to break Montana's touchdown record, and Montana NEVER threw an interception in his 4 Superbowl appearances... so I would take 4-0 vs 4-2 any day.
How about 7-3 over 4-0 lol?
U do know Brady played in the early to mid '00s when defenses could still play defense right? There's literally a video out there of Brady taking a huge hit against the Bills and getting right back up quickly (Look it up). I'd like to see Montana take a huge hit like that and get up... 6 year old comment so I'm sure you've changed your mind by now, and btw, 4-2 is better than 4-0.....
@@TragicHeroe Brady also hung around longer than Montana did. Had Montana played until he was a million years old too, he'd more than likely would've been right up there on all those hot stats before Brady came on the field.
as loooooonnngg time member of the Niner Faithful i would honestly say that it would be a dream come true to be able to catch a pass from the legendary Joe Montana
2014: A good year for sports
2015: A good time to live
2016: An exciting time for sports!
I miss it
Thx for everything randy 💪🏿
Brady and Joe Cool, 1 a and 1b in sb era...patriot fan. Moss was best deep threat ever
Well said 👏
I don't know why but Joe Montana looks like an actor. I would've never guessed the first time I saw him that he was a quarterback. Plus he looks so familiar outside of football.
Top 5 QB's ever.....
1. Joe Montana
2. Tom Brady
3. Dan Marino
4. Steve Young
5. John Elway
Just my opinion
Switch Marino and Elway
No manning??
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JOE MONTANA
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Everyone else.
No Peyton Manning ? This list is inaccurate!!!
perfect pass
The four words that I will always remember most " Montana to Rice!..... TOUCHDOWN!!!"
Montana and moss would've rewrote history books
uhhhhhh, Montana had Rice. You know, Jerry Rice, GOAT? Yeah him. Rice>Moss
Garnet West LOL Moss don't like dink dunk passes
SMASH MOUTH FOOTBALL
Weird he liked them from Brady just fine.
patrick reusch selfish Randy only wants the deep ball! Wes Welker the perfect dink and dunk WR
If I was you I would watch the whole season when he broke the 23 touchdown record.
You obviously don't keep up with him, I have been keeping up with him ever since Marshall
Moss and Rice - it's always a debate, but nobody debates who is the most gifted athlete of the two. And what if Randy Moss had spent the majority of his career catching passes from Joe Montana and Steve Young? I don't even want to think about it because I respect both Randy Moss and Jerry Rice so much. Edit: And yeah, I'm a Cowboys fan, but Montana is at the top of my all-time QB list. I watched him play in the 80's and early 90's. No QB has been as thrilling and clutch.
Joe Montana 🏈😍😍😍🏆🏈
I miss Randy Moss on the Vikings, there's was nothing like watching him catch the long bombs against the fudge Packers. I jumped out of my seat pumping my fists a million times watching him catch touchdowns against the Packers.
as always Joe still hits him in stride
I hate when people don't know their football he is a 4 time champion undefeated 3 time mvp
Joe took the laughing stalk of the NFL a place no one wanted to play, a place that took a coach who the rest of the league was black balling because they were so desperate for any success. A team that went back to back years of 2-14 and he turned them into a dynasty and got 4 rings in 9 years. Brady took over a team a team just a few years removed from a super bowl appearance themselves, who had just one bad season before he got there with anyone in that current staff and it took him 14 years to get 4 rings and he had a drought of 10 years of not getting a ring. Had joe had the protection rules we have today the man would have had more. It took hits that are illegal today to have even beaten the man. So don't give me the whole Brady does more with less. Defenses are having to do less these days. Plus Brady has played more games with Gronk than Joe had with any 49er
Absolutely. In todays game montana would have 10 rings .
Joe was 37 and Steven Young was a 30 year old MVP in his prime. I understand the situation. Steve brought a few more super bowls to SF after the trade.
No disrespect towards Steve Young, but the Niners should have kept Montana! Even though Steve won us one.
I dunno, Montana just got back from a elbow injury and he has age a lot. He's been getting injured all the time too. So it only make since to go with the younger Steve Young. Joe would have been crush by the Cowboys defense at the time with his constant injuries.
salamander337 right
This sounds like Alex smith and kaepernick
All good things must come to an end at some point. Joe was getting older, as was Ronnie Lott, Roger Craig, and others. The 49er's at some point had to start planning and building towards the "future." Steve Young trained with Montana with the ultimate plan to succeed him. Everyone, including Joe was aware of this. We would have Loved to see Bill Walsh remain with the 49er's, or many others, but it was time for them to go to make room for other or younger talent. That's how it works and the name of the game in the NFL. :-)
Yeah man... Montana just meant so much to that Niners team... He should a stayed there for his entire career...
I'm here Mr. Montana 😂😂😂
jay glazer staying quiet....such a true giant fan haha...loved that old rivalry
Joe Montana the best quarterback ever
Lotta people like to trash moss but randy was all class around the GOAT. Nothing but respect for what Montana did for the game. Great job Randy.
Moss has caught more than one pass from the goat
The 🐐
My daughter caught a nerf football pass from Joe years ago. Im so jealous!
Randy would have looked so good in blue and gold!
first of all disrespect to the legend jerry rice....speaking of a moss fan....other than brady, if moss had a chance to work with legends or top great QBs in his earlier days unarguably moss would have been the greatest wide receiver to grace the field including having rings and had broken more receiving records
Niners had Steve young and joe Montana at the same time. Crazy if u think about it. Its like having tom Brady and Peyton Manning on the same team
Imagine if Randy lined up next to Rice & Taylor with Joe throwing the ball… 19 50-burgers?
Montana + Moss might have been greater than Montana + Rice.
for sure. moss would be at 25,000+ yards if he played that long with a godlike qb
He did, he played with Tom
Craig Mcminimee yeah for 3 seasons. Jerry Rice played with Joe Montana and Steve Young for 15 years
Yeh i guess your right, imagine what moss could have done if he played with someone like brady for 15 years haha
+Craig Mcminimee 30k recieving yards
Well said Mr. Randy Moss
3:10 for the catch SMH
That spiral is looking pretty lovely
The legend joe cool.
Perfect throw
Dear god imagine if these two in their prime played together.
one thing is for sure. if randy moss played with joe for a few years he would have had a championship. montana never went more than 3 yrs without a sb win.
Well did he catch it?
Joe cool still throwing perfect spirals even sitting down.
Joe Montana getting four was huge, I really thought that wouldn't be broken....just too tough. Along comes Tom, and I can't imagine anyone getting more than seven now. But....who knows....maybe.
That spiral....lol
I don’t care if it’s 5 feet. Always clutch. Right on the money. Didn’t even have to move his hands.
My man Joe!!!
As of today IMO:
1.) Brady
2.)montana
3.)Elway
4.)peyton
5.)marino
***** I agree but he did kind of get carried sometimes by irvin and emitt. Jimmy J handled the personalities but i agree winning three in any era is a tough thing to do. Bradshaw got carried by his defense even though he played well so he doesn't make my top 5. Unitas definitely could make it over marino but i think marino was the better passer. idk they are all legends it's just how you wanna split em. The top three imo are a lock tho, regardless of order.
+bcmoykg if u look at his stats it was really average tbh.. he only had one year throwing over 20 tds..he never reached over 3500 in passing ever.. he got in cause of the superbowls.. look at his superbowl days he had 11, 23 , 12.. the dallas was what the alabama is in football now.. a great rb and good defense a great wr and a average qb.. my list is
montana
brady
elway
manning
farve
jkthaballa absolutely i can agree with that. Even notable NFL analysts say that michael irvin MADE aikman a HOFer. He still has three rings and there's a lot to be said about that but as far as being a HOF QB i don't even have him in my top 10. You can't put him in 6-10 because you can't put him ahead of guys like steve young, roger stauhbach, bart starr, bradshaw, etc.
#1Joe Montana #2 Payton Manning #3 Tom Brady's. Who never lost Superbowl
well... on my list i have brees #1 manning #2 brady #3 montana #4 and favre #5. i feel like people dont give drew brees and payton manning the credit they deserve because of their lack of defenses... if ty law didnt pick off kurt warner and returned it for a td the patriots wouldve lost that 2002 superbowl, if ty law didnt pick off payton manning 3 times in the 2004 afc championship game the pats wouldve never made it to the superbowl, if brady defense didnt get 4 turnovers in the 2005 superbowl brady wouldve never won that superbowl, and who's to say that if malcom butler didnt pick off russel wilson the seahawks wouldnt have won the 2014 superbowl? it is very possible that brady couldve had 0 rings if he had no defence. and joe montana played with 6 other hall of famers throughout his career and one of those hall of famers he played with used stickum... i know you're probably thinking that manning played with 2 hall of fame receiver but what was marvin harrison and reggie wayne when they didnt have payton manning? outside of jimmy graham how many above average receivers brees had? i put brees ahead of manning because even tho manning hold most qb records brees is on pace to eclipse all of manning stats if he play as long, plus he hold the record for the highest completion % in a career even tho the other team know he's going to throw the all 40+ times a game. and i should mention... drew brees completed atleast 72% of his passes in his last 6 games and atleast 77% in 4 of those 6 games. also drew brees steps his game up whenever the saints make the playoffs.
The 49ers should never have traded Joe Cool. Steve Young was great, but Joe was the best.
Here is the difference between Montana and Brady, no one hates Montana. Plus the whole hissy fit thing.
You didn't see Randy Moss here, in front of Joe Montana "claiming" status of the Greatest Wide-Receiver!! Moss knew better then to flap that crap in Joe's presence!! LOL
Randy Moss is a better studio analyst than he was a WR? Hahahahahahh
Depends was this before or after Jerry Rice admitted to cheating????
Tyson Before......Please tell me why ya think he was the only one to use stick em during that time and how his work out regiment and timely precise routes and run after the catch didn't matter. lol
ryan49er1 I dont give a fuck if everybody used it imo it had no effect on Rice fact of the matter is the shit is illegal im so tired of the double standard against the Patriots everybody did spygate but the Patriots got caught doing it and all hell broke loose and boy dont even mention deflategate countless amount of Qbs admitted to playing with under inflated footballs hell Aaron even said he plays with his balls over the PSI (Which is illegal) but good old Tom Brady and the cheating Patriots get caught up in it 1M dollar fine loss of 1st and 4th round draft picks and Brady gets a longer suspension then Ray Rice initially when the standard punishment is a 25k fine for ball tampering like are u fucking serious
Tyson Where is my Willy Wonka meme stating..." So ya just found out NFL players use whatever they can to get that extra edge...New fan??"
Damn he dusted the defense
And I agree he should have played his career with the 49ers he might have won another Super Bowl to maybe even two the only reason Steve Young won because he had Joe Montana's team
Steve Young was the reason why the 49ers traded Joe Montana to the Chiefs
Joe Montana.... The Catch, The Drive, Legend. Never liked Young.
ummm is that YOUU never liked Young or Joe never liked Young?? lol
*****
It's funny how we remember the past. Each player only plays in his own era. Don't get me wrong. I'm from the Bay area and the run the 49er's had was great. Montana always seemed cool,calm and collected. He'd done his homework. So..... How many interceptions did he throw in the NFC championship game against the freaking Starheads? The game known for "The Catch"? THREE! That's right fellow 49er fans. Three fucking interceptions! They were lucky to win. Nay! They won despite a not stellar performance by Montana. I'm sure dirt could be dug up about Brady,Manning, God himself. We marvel at grown men playing a child's game. It's a game for children!
Imagine Montana to moss
How many would Joe have if he didn’t get hurt … I’m thinking at least 2!
They would seriously destroy the league
Randy doesnt have to fantasize about receiving a pass from arguably the greatest quarterback ever, he had a 3 great years receiving in New England
Apparently the man himself doesn't think so.
Only like 20 games though.
He also had the pleasure of losing a Super Bowl with Tom Brady.
Razza Anonymous Montana played in NE with Moss?
Wish Full thats what the word arguably means. that it could be either one
Yeah Kansas City had a pretty good defense cuz they had Derrick Thomas and I guess with the addition of Joe Montana and Marcus Allen the offense was above average... But there was one more problem that they didn't realize that they did have... Marty schottenheimer!! He couldn't coach a championship mouse in a cheese eating contest!!
See when Joe threw it that Randy didn't even move his hands.
Its funny cause he’s sitting next to John Lynch who’d become the niners GM
Is the guy to Joe's right calling a flag on the pass??
Joe cool
Where is the football life on joe ????
He spent a year with Brady. That should be enough of a memory
that pass was tooo short randy moss should've gone deeper lol but that was a nice throw and catch