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- Is Tom Brady better than Joe Montana? Bill Romanowski played with Montana, and he tells Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe which QB is better.
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When Montana played the NFL was the wild wild west compared to today! Lol!😀
Goatriots LT a Plummer ? Derrick Thomas ? Mike Haynes, Lester Hayes ? Reggie White ?
@@alanflores2714 didn’t Hayes and haynes go to Oakland ?
You ain't kidding.
Really? If that’s the case, what do you call the Terry Bradshaw days?
@@stephenboley5758 Yea, that too! Lol!🤠
"You can't compare Joe Montana and Tom Brady."
*compares Joe Mantana and Tom Brady*
I know I laughed at that too
😆😆😆😆
In this era I’ll take joe
@@joe-say-did-it6201 good cause ill take brady, i know what he can do with lesser teams.
david vironet less teams ?? Greates coach of alll time top 10 tight end ! Randy moss! Are u crazy he has had great teams!
Joe Montana baby
Gamma Cosmic he's the greatest ever
They didn't stay on topic! The question is who is better: Tom Brady or Joe Montana, not how competitive John Elway is!
Matt Ramirez That's Undisputed lol
John Elway is better than both of them They just won more Super Bowls
Quan Archie then how is he better
ask anyone that watched football in the nineties mid 80s His teams lost 4 Super Bowls that's why he doesn't get the credit he deserves if that's the case Terry Bradshaw won 4 why did they not mention him
How is Elway better? Explain this.
Joe Montana played in an era where you could take a quarterbacks head off on every play. not to mention defensive passive interference was almost none existent
Blake Eldridge a patriots fan obviously
he also had a more stacked offense, no salary cap, and a defense that gave up an average of 6.5 points less in the super bowl than brady's
Nikk Carroll ya I'm a pats fan but show me one opinion I had in this comment straight facts homie
Yeah if he had to play against Bruce Smith, LT, Reggie White he would have been out of the league a while ago.
Did he have a great wide receiver that used stickums and oil on the jerseys? I love how people leave out important stuff lol
You can't compare them.. the NFL is NOT the same NFL
not the same game
brady did not have to deal with the 85 bears, LT, or regggie white. Back then, players were not endangered species.
@@bernieluan3238 The 1 game the 85 Bears lost was vs Marino. Brady would have picked that defense apart passing the ball just like Marino did.
Compared to todays LB's LT would be considered very under sized and very slow. He wouldn't have many opportunities to get to Brady since he gets the ball out in a couple seconds.
Reggie White would be the most problematic out of the 3 things you mentioned. Although like LT, with Brady's quick release, he wouldn't have a lot of opportunities to hit him.
@@poiziepoe7940 good points but I feel Lt would be a problem
@@poiziepoe7940 LT is the same size as von Miller you make no sense.
I believe Montana would’ve won more if he played in this era.
For sure. They can’t even hit close to as hard.
False, Brady played in like 2-3 eras where if you broke up every one of them a hall of fame career
Tell Jerry Rice they can't touch you after 5 yards......Instant 2 more Superbowl
Absolutely right.
@@sionrouge1697 lmaooo Jerry Rice never had to deal with that.
Different eras. Joe Montana didn’t stand back there in a pocket 10 yards behind a line of scrimmage and have all day to toss passes. He scrambled, threw off balance, ran the ball in, suffered multiple injuries. He came very close to six Super Bowls, the fifth time against the Giants the 49ers were on their way to scoring when he got sacked and injured and the final times with Kansas City were he played very well but had no supporting cast.
The completely biased refs in Washington DC took one away from us. The Vikings took out our 49ers in the year 1987. The 49ers didn't play well but nevertheless, the Vikings achieved their victory fair and square. Then the 49ers lost to the NY criminals, 1990 because the criminals were out to hurt Joe in order to win the game in which they did.
You are right! Joe could have won 6 SBs within 10 years.
While Tom Cheatdy took almost 1/4 century and many proven cheating scandals to win 7. If we condone cheating, yes, Tom Cheatdy is the most accomplished QB in football history.
@creepshow My statement holds. There are a number of quarterbacks who demonstrated skills throughout their career that Brady simply does not have. He does not throw well on the run, does not scramble, or evade defenders like Elway, Young, Tarkenton, Marino, Bradshaw, Staubach, Lamonica, or Joe Montana. It is fortuitous that we have excellent game footage of these players to demonstrate this.
Your idolization of Tom is obvious. Brady has been untouched by defenses most his career; he’s a highly protected tosser who’s spent an entire career well-back of the line.
Most NFL games play out in reasonable weather, only a few in extreme cold or in snow--so sounds like you just have a deep need to cuddle up with Tom, and keep his balls warm!
Brady could have 9. Doesn’t matter
7 rings 💩 all over 4 measly rings grandpa.
Brady's never had a supporting cast like Montana had and he got rid of the ball faster than anyone else in the league. "All day to throw" was rarely the case with Brady, and he was statistically the most accurate quarterback in the league, even on tight-window throws in his last two years with Tampa Bay. Brady is demonstrably the most effective quarterback in the history of football and it's not close.
And if you think Brady's been untouched by defenses, you must not have seen the Super Bowls against the Giants, Seahawks, or Falcons where they were running through the Patriots' offensive line like a sieve and Brady was sliding and dodging in the pocket like his life depended on it (it did). You must not have seen Brady's first postseason game where he got rocked on basically the same sideline hit that almost killed Drew Bledsoe but popped right back up. Brady is a warrior, to the point that he earned Ray Lewis's respect.
It's nice to see Romanowski is just as high as when he played lol
Imagine if Joe Montana's 49rs played in today's games with today's rules.
Montana would have 10 rings.
@@DoctorHver 👊😌
Troy,
Joe would have a 90% completion %. But the bottom line is that we cannot compare a proven cheater to Joe Montana. Joe won 4 SBs with the 49ers fair and square and twice almost ended his career by the NY Criminals. That crybaby cheater from NE has always been protected by untold special privileges from refs.
@@benthekeeshond545 Agreed!
KC Chiefs have the most gifted receivers and qb and only have one ring so far...it's not as easy to win as people think
Two different eras! I go with Montana!
and Brady hasn't had to take the shots that Joe took due to era. those hits are illegal in the league
who cares
Lost the people clicked on this video
SALARY CAP.
Rodimus 2005 some could spend more than others and players would have no reason not to sign for the best teams
hurricane Brady also didnt get to have the best receiver of all time on his team for most of his career.
Roughing the passer call didn't exist in Montana era either
not on my settings playing Madden either
yes because brady never gets hit or anything
It did. Patriots got hurt by that BS call in the playoffs against the raiders awhile back.
Montana would have played much longer and won at least one more SB if he played in today's "don't touch the qb" rules. Montana GOAT.
Daniel Nieto EXACTLY!!!! Brady fan boys will never admit it. Brady will never be the G.O.A.T. because he's never been allowed to be touched, PERIOD.
Back when this was filmed, it made sense that people still thought they were neck and neck. There is no way anyone can say Brady wasn't the better QB. I don't care about different eras or this or that. He's won more than anyone by far where it mattered most, and he also was in a Super Bowl for nearly half his career. It will be a long time before anyone dominates and wins like Brady did.
Gotta go with my man Joe Cool on this one..JM16💯🐐
Brady has 5 more Superbowl appearances and 2 more rings though
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Pardon me, Brady has 7 now 😁
Same joe made tougher throws and was always on target. And no cheating. No rule change. Brady is second. But I can't dispute Brady fans because I say Jordan is the 🐐 for being 6-0 with no game 7!!
Joe Montana is the Greatest QB of All Time.
There is no way Tom Brady could have led the 49ers to the 1981/1982 49ers Super Bowl win against the Bengals.
Like Joe Montana did.
Or even beat Dallas in the nfc championship
I Agree 1OO %
@@johnre5342 That was an aging Dallas team with Danny White. Those weren't the 76,77,78 Cowboys.
@@jackduncan5442 they were still a capable team. The bengals and 49ers were both 6-10 the year before. Cowboys were still the favorite to win the Super Bowl.
For 1 game you had to win I will take # 16 in red and #1 in my heart.A very good athlete ,great footwork.He would have worked in any ''SYSTEM''.Brady would not be playing today without the cream puff rules.Montana was as calm as a ''HINDU COW''.
Tom Brady has 6 game winning SUPERBOWL drives, Joe has 1.
@@GBSaSu Please do not forget that Montana did not play in a'' SOFT'' era! To each his own.
@@michaelkraus4135 dumb argument. It’s the only one joe has now 😂 Goat brady>Montana’s any day of the week.
rn Joe Montana is still the greatest imo. He retired with 2 regular season mvps, 3 superbowl mvps, undefeated in the Superbowl (4-0) and threw 11 touchdowns throughout his superbowl run and didn't throw a single interception in the big stage, If brady wins a 5th one then I'll reconsider
NFL Superfan he got lucky he didn't throw any picks Cincinnati dropped one that would have ended the superbowl. The one he saw John candy in lol
did you reconsider
Qbs in this era wouldn't last in the 70's, 80's, and early 90's. Corners can play physical on WRs. Meaning the QB had to hold on to the ball much longer. Which results into hits and Slam. Defenses was able to knock the QB down and slam them. Rodgers concussion, P Manning neck, Brady no mobility, and Brees wouldn't be able to have a 5 second and throw offense resulting to them being injured alot. The rules benefits the qb and offenses that is why getting 5,000 yards in season is not what it use to be.
Excellent assessment.
Finally. Somebody who really is a student of the game. You cant even tackle without drawing a penalty. Ask the Lions this year when they tackled Ezekiel Elliott. This isnt the CFL or the AFL. The NFL has become nothing but basketball on grass.
Sean Dupree every body slam is a Penelty and I agree that wasn't a dirty hit just a hit saying big zeke u ain't runnin it on me and I'm the biggest zeke fan my self
You can't tackle without drawing a penalty? I see tackles in every game, many of them. And there is not a flag thrown on every one of them, not even close.
Thats true, but also, QBs of those eras would not be good in todays game...
funny how romanowski kock shannon sharpe out of a game when they play and here they sit next to each other lol
People say Brady played in a soft league .... didn’t know early 2000s the nfl was soft lmao
James Lombard mhm ppl seem to ignore tht and Brady got 3 Super Bowls in tht era . But yah Brady is soft smfh
@@chrisranger2370 yeah it not like Brady won them early 2000's superbowls either Brady was at best game-managing” QB. pats defense was stack . pats defense in early 2000's was like top 5-8 . and lets not forget Brady choking in Superbowl 42 either ..that have to be one of biggest choke in sports history . pats was like 18-20 points favorite in the Superbowl..
They need a way to justify their moronic opinion because the numbers and facts state otherwise
Softer than the 80's but was definitely soft by the end of the 2000s.
@@funtyes1970 Brady most definitely won the Carolina superbowl. The defense gave up 29 points and Vinatieri missed 2 FG's. Lets not forget there has only been 1 superbowl where Patriots didn't have a 4th quarter lead. That was vs Atlanta where they won anyway.
Brady and Montana are both QB legends. When determining who's the best QB there are so many variables to consider. #1supporting cast who had more talent around them? I'd give the edge to Montana, he played on some hall of fame stacked teams both sides of the ball. #2 salary cap era, there was no salary cap when Montana played. #3 coaching both players had great coaches, that's a wash. I think Brady's the goat, but just to put him in conversation with Montana is an honor in itself.
u have to remember yes montana was playing with many hall of famers but so was every other team in the league back then teams were loaded back then and the salary cap argument is bs because all the other teams back then had no salary cap t was balanced its still balanced today there just arent as many star studded teams as there were in years past im saying its bs because the level of competition is similar in both eras there were better teams back then no salary cap every team was stacked so it really doesnt make much difference
I will take Montana! Brady is outstanding but he didnot have Lawrence Taylor coming after him either!
Your right he had von miller, damarcus ware, ray lewis, urlacher jj watt, the list goes on...
and Reggie White enough said
That’s why they ran the west coast system. Quick passes and Montana rolling out the pocket. The Giants won a super bowl because Montana held on to the ball to long and got knocked out of the game by a nasty blind side hit.
Brady isn't better.... but Von Miller, JJ Watt, and Shawn Merriman....... aren't scrubs either....
@Antonio Iniguez Brady was sacked 7 times in sb 51 and he can back from 28-3. Please sit down
Not much of a debate!
Joe vs Tom: Regular Season Numbers: Games Played: Brady +77. Wins: Brady +90. Comp%: Brady +0.8. Yards: Brady +29,963 TD: Brady +244 (SMH) Int: Montana 32 fewer.
Joe vs Tom: Post Season. GS: Joe 23/Tom 40. Record: Joe 16-7/Tom 30-10 (WOW)
Comp%: Joe 63.2/Tom 63.25 Yards: Joe 5,772/Tom 11,179 TD/INT: Joe 45/21 Tom 73/34
Joe vs Tom Achievement:
Joe Montana 4 Time SB Champ (4-0). 3 Time SB MVP 3 First Team All Pro
2 Second Team All Pro 8 Pro Bowls 2 NFL MVP's 1 NFL Offensive Player of the Year
2 Time AP Athlete of the Year 2 Time NFL Passing Leader 2 Time NFL TD Leader 1 NFL Comeback Player of the Year
Tom Brady 6 Time SB Champ (6-3). 4 Time SB MVP 3 First Team All Pro
2 Second Team All Pro 14 Pro Bowls 3 NFL MVP's 2 NFL Offensive Player of the Year
1 Time AP Athlete of the Year 3 Time NFL Passing Leader 4 Time NFL TD Leader 1 NFL Comeback Player of the year
If one is honest with oneself. They will realize that there is really no debate. You will not find one Montana fan displaying the actual numbers. It's not that close. The Montana supporter (in this debate) is left with intangible qualities which is left to what if's, conjectures and opinions. We can't qualify those attributes. They desperately try to isolate Montana SB performance and record over brady's. Yes. He was a better performer in the SB. But you must take the entire career of a QB. Not pick and choose what parts fit our argument. That is not fair.
Be honest. The history and present is backed by the numbers. Compare the resumes. Oh. And Brady is not done! Argument? Is there really an argument on who the G.O.AT QB is? I say no (emphatically).
I wish I could give u 1000 likes ,check out this 4 part series on RUclips called Brady vs Montana it's great and the guy breaks everything u can possibly debate on and Brady is the goat 4 times over!!
I considered this debate over when Brady earned his fifth SB ring a few years ago; Brady could have earned nine SB rings if not for a few great plays(freakish receptions), that is crazy.
Compare them based off of their era, 4,000 yards today is what 3,000 yards was before (maybe less). If you go by how they compare against QBs in their respective eras statistically then it looks a lot better for Montana, but stats are in favor of most modern QBs which is why Kirk Cousins & Derek Carr have better stats than 95% of 80s QBs. 4 Rings in the 80s & 6 Rings after 00s aren’t the same thing as well.
Should it also be mentioned that Joe Montana had the best all-time receiver in NFL History to throw to?
Jerry Rice still has 6,616 more yards than the 2nd place guy. (Larry Fitzgerald, whose still playing!)
Brady had number 4 all-time receiver in Randy Moss, but only for 50 games. Rice played 16 years for San Fran.
(Full disclosure: Not sure how many games with Montana but, I'll bet my life it's way more than 50. They played together for 8 yrs)
Wes Welker ranks number 50 all-time and Gronk ranks 104th. Welker only played 6 years with the Patriots.
I would dare say, Brady did it with much less. . .
And after 6 Rings, he's still not done!
Keeping it reel . . .
You also have to factor Joe faced tougher opponents ig. Brady played a lot more starting seasons and teams in his division finished with 10 wins less than the teams in Montana’s divisions. He had a free ticket to the playoffs every year, not to discredit him Bc I think he would’ve won regardless.
Because of the QB rule changes and official protection of the QB during the Brady era, I'd have to say Montana. It seems like there was always a rule change when the Patriots didn't make the SB or Brady got hurt:) How good would Montana had been if he had Brady rules? The 1st 3 Patriots SB wins were because of the defense and they were during the time that Belichick spied on the other team. The last 2 wins were because the opponent/coaches faded down the stretch. If the Patriots won, there was always that "one" play. So you could say the opponents lost their SB more than the Patriots won. When the Niners won, there was no doubt. The coaches kinda wash one another out. But Montana did great under more than 1 coach. And Montana was more athletic. So Montana is my choice.
Brady combines great regular season stats with great playoff performances that's why he's the goat
Durk Banks don't let him play the broncos though
dak Prescott, how'd that go last time they played? Lmfao
Durk Banks no
GOAT
+Vandal Well it went pretty badly for Brady, he didn't play very well. He got bailed out by the rest of his team again.
Joe played in an era where there were few rules that protected QB's and where receivers could be lit up with helmets. He didn't have the height, body and durability of Brady. He also played in an era where there was no zero salary cap. So the best players migrated to the playoff teams. Which is why you almost always saw the Niners and Cowboys in the NFC title game. The teams that appeared in the playoffs back then would kick the butts of almost anyone who is playing today. There was no limit on the amount of hall of famers you could have on your team. Joe had to beat some incredible teams just to get to the NFC title game. Also, Brady's super bowl wins have all come by no more than 6 points. I think the fact that Joe has two where he totally destroyed the opposition has to count for something.
Super bowl 39 Patriots had a 10-point lead with less than 2 minutes the eagles score a late TD what about super bowl 55 Tom Brady and the buccaneers won by 22 points that's a lot more than 6
I’ll take Montana over anybody, then Brady. You can have anybody else including Elway.
1. Montana 2. (Eventual spot of Mahomes in my mind) 3. Brady 4. Rodgers 5. Brees
In any game on the line I would always bet on Joe Montana. But his discussion should not be limited to quarterbacks who won Super Bowls, because as we know winning games is a team effort. Brady had three occasions where either the place kicker actually won the game for him or the defense did. Dan Marino would be included in any discussion of great quarterbacks: he had the best arm of anyone and great field sense. His 5000 yard 48 touchdown season in ‘84 featured many throws far downfield, and into the end zone, he wasn’t protected either.
Taking montana over brady is stupid. As for mahomes, LOL once mahomes has reached montana we can talk about him ever getting close to brady.
@@RDSports5 wrong haha
@@jesterchesterfield2374 I should've put Russell Wilson on that list ahead of Mahomes. Outside of that, I'm good with it
If a Super Bowl win is a Gold medal, then a Super Bowl Loss would be the Silver medal, and Brady has 5 Gold medals and 3 Silver medals compared to Montana's 4 Gold medals. Brady has 508 TD passes, and counting, to Montana's 273.
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'Spygate' far worse than anyone initially thought, ESPN reports
The Pats are serial cheaters how many medals were only won due to cheating.The NFL even destroyed the evidence because it would taint the NFL to admit it.
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants zero. zero medals were won due to cheating. The Spygate thing is a relative nothing burger compared to like, using steroids or something. The Spygate thing was blown out of proportion. Deflategate even more so
The point is they cheat to win, I never heard that about Montana, and Montana did it in a league without the tuck rule, without hitting a defenseless receiver, and without roughing the passer. Montana would be setting records in this soft league.
Nate Soto Jerry Rice admitted to using stick em. That's......... cheating.
Nate Soto he also had the greatest wide receiver the league has ever seen who was also using stick-um every game, and was in the most revolutionary offense in football, the west coast offense, still used to this day.
Skip: "Montana did not have to deal with Sean Lee"
🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Montana didn't have to deal with Sean Lee, but he did have to deal with Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White. And there were no rules to protect the QB from vicious hits, it was perfectly legal then.
If you never saw Montana play in real time how can you say for sure Brady is the goat . 4-0 in Super Bowl games is impressive
cacable7 um....I'm guessing your a youngster cause I remember Montana single handily destroying the legendary orange crush defense, going Clutch!! on Cincinnati and...well you get where this is going 👍🏾
Chris Jordan hey how bout that cheater who has 4 Superbowl MVPs Tom Brady he's not the goat tho
#IT4 #BEST POINT #ALL-STAR #3seed #BETTERTHANKYNEE what about him lol....he still hasn't even been to 10 title games nor won 7 titles like Otto Graham so what has changed lmao, but once again, 5 is better than 7 right?? Lmao try again, can't argue facts
+Chris Jordan what does Otto Graham have to do with this Brady is the best of all time proving all the haters wrong Especially you coming back from a 25 point deficit to win the game. Got his his 4th SB MVP
His 5th ring more than any QB I'm NFL History. And 5 outta seven Championships Doesn't sound bad at all
#IT4 #BEST POINT #ALL-STAR #3seed #BETTERTHANKYNEE ok that was cute, came back against a falcons team that notorious for blowing leads, congrats but since everyone wants to talk titles, Otto has more than Brady that's why he's mentioned, don't talk about titles and not include everyone cause Otto went to 10 championship games, that's unheard of.
4-0 vs 4-2 JM16 All Day
I’d take 5 superbowls and a playoff team every single year over 4.
so going 4 times and winning 4 times is more valuable than going 6 times and winning 4 times? They both won 4 times, just Brady went 2 more. And since, he's gone to another, and won another. 5-2 > 4-0
@@doctorbattle2637 Brady is 5-3
@@jmccarthy40 well now it's 5-3, yeah. still better than 4-0. winning 5 will always be better than winning 4, even if brady retires with a superbowl record of 5-15
@@doctorbattle2637 dr these assclown gloss over how bad Montana got beat in the playoffs. Also was Benched after 17-3, 49-3, 36-24 3 straight 1 and done lost to a 9-7 Vikings team while the number 1 seed.
Can’t compare. Softer game these days..
200-2008 was still kinda rough
true, but the athletes are monsters compared to them dudes 15+ years ago. The game is way faster, because the players are faster. Putting these modern monsters next to them previous monsters is like putting a malnourished kid next to shaq.
Defenses are smarter now than in the 80's and quarterbacks get hit more than in the 00's
@@chaseredwhiteandblue3163 lmao false
@@v8Buster87 false the ran the same stats don’t lie
Montana's era was so much more difficult for QBs and that is why Montana is the greatest and never threw an interception in the Superbowls.
Montana played when a QB could get nailed. Brady. plays when you look at a QB cross eyed it’s a Personal Foul. Montana way better than Brady
1.Brady 2.Montana 3.Manning+ Unitas, Graham, Baugh, Elway, Rodgers, Marino, Luckman, Starr, Young, Staubach, Favre, Bradshaw, Brees, Aikman...
It's easy. Montana was 26.3% better (QB rating) than his peers. Brady is just 19.0% better than his. And Montana played in an era where you could hit the QBs. Until 'the Brady rule,' effectively made the shots that Montana took illegal, Brady was only above average. After the 'Brady rule' is when Brady took off as he no longer had to face hard hits.
Not only brady took off but qb stats for all qbs inflated. Eli manning stats would be top 5 in the 80s-90s. Cant compare eras with stats.
For me Brady will be the most accomplished QB of all time. However you need to really think about what Montana was competing against in the 80's. You had the Landry Cowboys, Gibbs Redskins, Parcells Giants and a few years of the Ditka Bears. That 1985 Bears team was the most dominant single season team I ever watched. What other legendary teams did Brady contend with?
LOB and Peyton manning that’s it lol
@@thedrunkrussian7276 Buccs, Ravens, Eagles, Seahawks, Bears, Colts, Broncos, Rams shall i go on? you named 3 teams... and cowboys were non existent in the 80s thats why tom laundry was fired..
@@GBSaSu you gotta say which team your talking about. Like the first post it was landry cowboys , not just cowboys because i wouldn't know which cowboys years your referring to
@@504gucci4 01 rams, Manning’s colts, rothesburgers steelers, 04 eagles, ravens with ray lewis, mahomes, mcvay, 28-3,
Over the 94 Niners? I don't think so!
Joe is the greatest. 4 wins, 11 TD's, 0 Interceptions. Nuff said. Also Could Tom do the same in 1980's football? I think not.
Montana had a quick accurate release, can throw on the run, ballet like footwork & commanding in the pocket.
Pundits label him as a system QB but he was surrounded by multi skilled players like RB who can catch out of the backfield. His receivers were not speedsters or height mismatches. Rice was slow & Taylor wasn’t Randy Moss.
Bill says Brady is the featured weapon, but then adds Randy Moss & Gronk on the line. Both superstars with size & speed. Brady is in a system too. Receivers that block, TEs that can catch like WR & RB who can catch out of the backfield. NE has receivers pulling screens, rub routes & cross cross routes all 2 get them open.
That is a system. Football is a system.
It was glorious watching Joe scramble to throw or throwing a receiver open.
Tom Brady played with Randy Moss for 2 years how many years did Joe Montana and Jerry Rice played together gronkowski missed three years of football because of injuries Brady and Gronk play together for 6 years in New England still less than Joe Montana and Jerry Rice how many Hall of famers did Joe Montana play with compare to Brady
If Jerry Rice was such a slow wide receiver how could be considered the greatest receiver of all time
If the 49ers hadn't brought in a incumbent(Steve Young) to play behind Montana in case he got hurt which he did in 1990 NFC championship game against the eventual super bowl winner N.Y.Giants, then we might be talking about 5 rings for Montana which 49ers won again in 94 with Steve Young, but Montana had already retired in 93.
Bill Romanowski is a hero and a great role model. 🐐
Bro💀u being fr?
Dude he's well known for being one of the dirtiest, cheap shot players in NFL history. 😂
4-0 v 5-3. I like going 8 times, but undefeated is undefeated.
How is loosing in the play off’s better then loosing in the super bowl
@@matthewdwan300 It’s not he’s just a Brady hater. Montana was undefeated in Superbowls but many other QBs were too. Brady went to 9, he’s the goat
What about 6-3 and a 12th championship appearance?
@@GetintheCAH 14th championship appearance lol not 12th
Can I interest you in 7-3
4-0 in Super Bowls! That’s the end!
But you are probably the same idiot that says "Duh all Bradys rings are a team accomplishment "
You talking about Terry Bradshaw?
So getting to the super bowl only 4 times and winning all 4 is better than getting to 9 and only winning 6? That's ridiculous.
6 RINGS
6 rings and 9 superbowl appearances. That is much better than 4 rings.
Also, Joe Montana didn't have the controversy that the Patriots have with cheating in deflate gate, etc. Montana was un tarnished and unflappable. Undefeated in all his Super bowls plus stiffer competition in 85 Bears, Redskins, Dallas and the Giants were all Super Bowl teams in his era.
@Richard Lee Magic great point and don’t forget Elway's Bronco’s!
I totally agree with you.
7 rings going for his 8th. Just stop it lol
@@lewstone5430 Brady dominated the league for 23 years and still is.
@@maxjulien188 you shouldn't lol. Montana only won four and Brady won 7 plus he's going to get his 8th
I don't care a whole lot on the subject but if you gave Randy Moss to Joe Montana there is no chance at all he ever loses a Super Bowl to lame Eli Manning and the Giants. Joe had the magic throughout his career that few athletes have ever had. Jordan Gretzky Ali Pele Tiger maybe Bolt.
RockYouVideos lebron?he's been to six straight finals and won 3 as a primary underdog
RockYouVideos do u knw the defense gave up the lead and left brady no time for a comeback
So we gunna pretend Montana didn't have jerry rice?
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Montana won 2 SB’s without Rice.
Eric Lind okay.... and brady won 5 with names like troy brown, danny amendola, julian edelman, deon branch, and chris hogan.... i mean not really comparable and montana had dwight clark for the other 2
Montana: 83 of 122, 1,142 yards, 11 touchdowns, 0 interceptions
Brady: 108 of 158, 1,063 yards, 10 touchdowns, 3 interceptions
Montana in 4 SB wins compared to Brady's Cheating Stats =)
Cosmological Constant yes completely disregard Montana's cheating receiver lol
So you conveniently leave out rice's stickum and the greased up Oline, right kiddo?
5>4
Mike M And you conveniently leave out the Packers 5 Titles in 7 Seasons. 49ers 4/10 is also better than 5/16. Try again son.
5>4 period.
Mike M 5/7 & 4/10 are better than 5/16 idiot lol
Really compairing the two on who can dunk. I'll always take #12 for late game drives.
Lol, So would the Atlanta Falcons!
Joe Montana it ain't even close Tom Brady couldn't play in Montana's time he wouldn't last
To be fair, Montana had way more competition than Brady did. The 80s saw the Bears, Giants and Redskins all have a dynasty. Who has had a dynasty outside of the Patriots these last 20 years?
Bears and Giants won 1 Super Bowl in the 80’s.
Do you wonder why that is? Surely it’s not a coincidence. Easy answer, free agency and a CAP. The NFL was built to stop dynasties from happening. What the patriots pulled off should not have been possible in the modern era.
I agree with Romanowski, you cannot compare them BUT if I had to choose who to pay a ticket to watch, I'd choose Montana everyday. His graceful mobility and throwing technique is only comparable to other athletes like Federer in Tennis, Jordan in basketball and Maradona in football.
best linebacker since Joe Montainia
it is so easy for offense it is sad. Ryan Tanehill is dropping 4,000 yards a season with these rule changes.
yeah and you see how stupid players like romanowski sound from all those hits in the head. he sounds like he was a career boxer as slow and slurred as he talks
Earl Gibson what? head to head should be called bit defenseless receiver after a dude take 2 steps roughing the passer hit below the knee is BS. let me find you a video
players are faster and bigger then they was in the 80's and 90's Earl Thomas hit Gronk so hard that's his ribs went into his lungs...do you wanna see some one die on live TV ?
ryan tannehill is not bad... ryan tannehill is sometimes inconsistent but he's not bad. tannehill been sacked more than any other qb since 2012 and yet he still complete 62% of his passes and have a qb rating of 86.5 for his career. the reason more qbs are throwing for 4k yards is because receivers are more athletic than they have ever been and the average quarterback now is better than the average qb 20 years ago.
mritizwatitiz or they changed the rules so more offense can be provided.
"Hey Crewe! I'll see you on the field!"
Tom Brady is the better QB. Period. Montana had one of the most stacked teams in the history of the league for all 4 of his SBs. Defense and Offense. Brady has had consistent high levels of success throughout his career with literally no namers for the majority of his career. Not even a question really.
NO QB in this touch football era can be considered the GOAT ever. It used to take QBs 20-25 sec to get up after every pass play. Tom cries if someone brushes him.
And this is how Club Shay Shay was brought to Internet and national media attention
Romanowski is clearly high.
Yep I thought the same thing lol
Nice old CTE
Papa Carlo high on what? Adderol?
Everyone is high when you're high.
Haha I noticed that too
That was a great discussion. Romanowski and Sharpe really offered insider context on those quarterbacks.
Tom Brady is a Hall of Famer but Joe Montana to me is the greatest quarterback in the history of the game and I got to watch Montana play and trust me he was incredible
JOE MONTANA! THE GREATEST! 100% FLAWLESS!
@Ronnie B Common sense isnt so common. Clearly proven by this moron's comment
Terry Bradshaw greatest QB!
4 Super Bowls in 6 years
That will never be done again!
We got Bagels .. not 4 Super Bowls in 6 years.....
@We got Bagels not in 6 years .. Brady 4th Superbowl win take him like 14 years . Brady first 3 Superbowl wins was fast 3 in 4 years his 4th Superbowl win was 9 years later after his last Superbowl win . Montana won 4 superbowls in like 7-8 years i think
Shannon sharpe is only 4 years older than Me. I never knew Unc and Club Shay Shay popping off in the 90s Nice.
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Great commentary
I like this guy before I even watched the video when he said "2 different eras"
Romanowski is a dirt bag. Look up his story
These are the two greatest qb's I've seen play.
Difference is, Montana came from an era where quarterbacks got hit. Brady wouldn’t have lasted two weeks in the 80’s and 90’s.
awesome answer. respect
Right now (before Super Bowl LI), I would give the edge to Joe Montana, mainly because he was the main cog for a dynasty, much as Brady has been for the last 15 years. Montana also was undefeated in the Super Bowl, going 4-0, and was also unintercepted. Montana also played in a more competitive era when it was a little more difficult to qualify for the post-season, mainly due to larger divisions, though Montana played most of his career in a 4-team division, and for most of his 49er career, he had Rams teams that were annual playoff contenders, and then the Saints joined the group of contenders in 1987, making things even tougher for Montana and the 49ers, yet they usually conquered the NFC West.
However, a great case can also be made for Brady as the best (I have him at #3 behind Unitas before SB LI). While Montana made it to seven conference championship games, winning four, Brady has WON seven conference championship games (in an astounding ten tries), has had a changing offense for much of his career, and has now led teams to two more Super Bowls than any other QB has since the inauguration of the Super Bowl in the 1966 season (no other QB has gotten to more than five).
All that said, if Brady leads the Patriots to a win in Super Bowl LI, he would then leapfrog both Montana and Terry Bradshaw, the only other 4x Super Bowl winning QBs, with a fifth Super Bowl crown, which would probably crown him the greatest QB ever. He's already had one shot at immortality following the 2007 season, and his team fell short of completing the perfect season in Super Bowl XLII, though Brady did put his team ahead in the final three minutes. Now he has another shot at doing something nobody at his position has ever accomplished, a fifth Super Bowl title. If he gets it, he would almost certainly be acclaimed the best ever. But if he doesn't, he falls to 4-3 in the Super Bowl and joins a dubious list of great QBs who have lost three Super Bowls (Tarkenton, Elway, and Kelly).
Montana played against far more vicious defenses with fewer protective rules. Brady is playing in a weaker era where defenses and coaching is concerned. If you're just counting hardware & records then Brady is greater. If you count heart & hustle Montana was greater. Remember that Montana was a smaller qb and used everything he had effectively. He played under different set of rules.
The thing that gave Brady an edge even before his miracle comeback in Super Bowl LI is the difference in the talent around him against what Montana had around him. Montana had Pro Bowlers and All-Pros around him his entire career, including his two-year stint in Kansas City. On the other hand, with rare exception (Randy Moss and Corey Dillon being the most noteworthy exceptions), Brady has accomplished what he has with players who are above-average, at best. So I think the talent level around the QB cancelled out the argument in Montana's favor regarding the defenses he faced and the rules favoring QBs, some of which were enacted after Brady's knee was taken out in the first game of the 2008 season.
I will say that the 2002 realignment has made it much easier for teams to stay on top for much longer, which is why Brady and the Patriots, whatever team Peyton Manning QB'd for, Big Ben and the Steelers, and a few other teams have stayed on top for longer. With every division only having four teams and all but two of every team's opponents predetermined years in advance by division rotation, it is easier for a team to stay on top for a longer period of time.
cjs83172 Brady have 5 rings
This did not age well
Tom Brady is the best combination of success and maxed out potential I've ever seen.I really don't know who the greatest QB is but Brady is about as good as we've seen or will see when you add success and talent.
Tom Brady,the by far greatest NFL player of all time.
Brady has been honored with four Super Bowl MVP awards (Super Bowl XXXVI, XXXVIII, XLIX, and LI), the most ever by a single player, has won two league MVP awards (2007 and 2010), has been selected to 12 Pro Bowls, and has led his team to more division titles (14) than any other quarterback in NFL history. As of the end of the 2016 season, Brady is fourth all-time in career passing yards, fourth in career touchdown passes, and third in career passer rating. His career postseason record is 25-9, winning more playoff games than any other quarterback, and he has appeared in more playoff games than any player at any position. DROP THE MIC!!!!!! Ref. Wikipedia
Brady missed Moss about 8 times in the superbowl
Brady had 4 Super Bowls when this video dropped. Now he has 7. Case closed
Cheater
Watched them both play their whole careers, Montana was the GOAT...
Montana's better than Brady he went 4 for 4 never lost a superbowl
i still have a bubby brister football card around here somewhere
Two more super bowl victories 3 more appearances since this. TB12 6-3 GOAT
Just settle it by saying , both Brady and Montana are among the best , and they both have contributed so much , if not all of their lives to the sport , and i appreciate both of them , and that includes alot more of the greats as well : Montana, Brady, Marino, Elway, Bradshaw, Steve Young, Theismann, Namath, Favre , Kenny Anderson, Boomer Esiason, Warren Moon, and so on . These guys were the greats
Could listen to these greats ALL DAYYY LONGGGG
Joe.Montana won 4 rings in ,9 years tom Brady won 5 in ,16 years new england were spieing on opposition teams in every super bowl Montana won ,2 super bowls under 2 different head coach's. Montana is the GOAT
Paudie O Connor. Montana’s teams were much better and Brady’s SB opponents were much better than Montana’s. Montana won with elite talent all around him, Brady plays with anyone. He won a SB against one of the greatest defenses of all time with a college QB turned WR and a lacrosse player turned WR.
Paudie O Connor and. There was no spygate or deflategate with the 49ers.. Joe is still the best!
Luis Chauca Tom Brady cheated Montana is 🐐
Paudie O Connor Brady choked in a pair super bowls when he had the better team
5 > 4
This will always be true. You can NEVER change this mathematical statement.
Also, Brady had less talent around him.
Again, 5 is ALWAYS going to be greater than 4.
No debate after the Falcons game. After this super bowl, people start to debate Brady or Jordan
I met Romo and Shannon at their ring ceremony party at the Broadmoor Hotel in Colorado Springs and sold Romo 2 boxes of cigars...almost started a team riot...good times...I was also standing behind Mr. Bolen and Atwater when Atwater retired!
Robert Davey roids
That story about Elway selling his pool table b/c Bubby Brister beat him on it is hilarious
Sore loser and always was!
"Montana could dunk a basketball...do you think brady could do that"
Ended the video...clearly running out of things to discuss lmao
cjnovo992 speaks to athletic ability, why brady cant be associated with mj other wise tiger is better than both
I'm amazed by these stories! Joe Montana dunking a basketball confirmed by Shannon and Bill states how amazing some of these athletes are behind the scenes. And with Steve Young, an athletic backup QB on the 49ers too at that time!? I wonder how truly competitive things truly were between those two behind the scenes although without question the team did belong to Joe at that time.
Kade Hidalgo then start thinking katy
Oh come on. Stories like this can be interesting.
🐐Joe Montana was a great basketball player. He was also being recruited for 🏀. Montana was beast.
Best 2 minute Drills? JOE MONTANA!!!!
I take Joe for 3 reasons. 1. When he went to the playoffs... he won the super bowl. He did it all the time except for the time he was with the chiefs. He is what 3-0 in super bowls. 2. Between the spy gate, deflate gate, the fact Brady takes supplements to help his performance, they have not been banned yet by the league but soon will. 3. Joe Montana didn't need a kicker to win games. Joe had to take them down the whole field and win. In the clutch at any time during his time with the 49ers, nobody was better than joe.
Not to mention the rule changes have helped Tom Brady alot. The guys can't put hands on the receivers and it's easier to find them when not touched. You can't even hit the qb in today's league.
You can’t compare them because it’s not even close. Tom Brady surpassed Joe Montana by a long shot
Joyyyyy
I grew up in the Montana era and am a Joe Montana fan and I HATE Brady. Brady is better
humanparadox no you didnt tf
humanparadox no u didn't u just said that cause u like Brady.
TheSwagIsBack not true. I hated MJ but I can admit he is the greatest ever. I am objective
I hate Brady too..but he is the greatest (wearing Patriots hat) 😐
Some of you people are so petty. Why would someone lie about this on an FS1 video on RUclips?
Brady is amazing, Montana is greater
TB12 is the GOAT no question about it
Andrew Vellucci once Tom Brady wins the the Super Bowl and gets in to the hall of fame he will be the "GOAT"
He already is, he puts up top tier numbers, he wins more than any other QB in the history of the NFL. What else could he possibly do?
Andrew Vellucci win more than Montana and get his own commercial lol
He has won more than Montana.. Brady has made it to 6 superbowls and Montana made it to 4 and Brady recently set the all time win record for a qb
lol its 7 now. Dont forget 10 more days.
4-0 in super bowls, 11 TD, no picks, Montana is number 1
Montana also went 1 and done 3 years in a row.
The NFL defense was harsh during Montana's time and they loved to end QBs careers. Brady would have more SB losses if he played during that era. This one is a hard one but it's tough to weigh any QBs record against Montana's perfect one.
Brady is gonna get his fifth ring this year and be the 🐐
Montana is the goat. no need for a kicker to bail him out or rule changes, aka the Brady rule that got him started. it is almost flag football now. Brady wouldn't survive in the 70s, or 80s. Bret farve got the last of real football and never missed a game, still holds the record. Montana is not a system qb coz he took KC to the playoffs. Steve young had rice longer and only won 1. Brady loses a year to being hurt and still the patriots won 11. this year 3and 1 without him. Bill is the reason they are so good. 2 loses to the giants and should have been to seatle, dumbest coaching decison in history coz NFL didn't want Lynch to be MVP. Montana beat good teams in the NFC, they won almost every year in the 80s. where is the dominant teams Brady beat? Peyton had Houston, Jacksonville, and Tennesse, Brady had jets, bills, and Miami, both had free runs to the big game.
Robert Martin stop it it's not even close brady is the GOAT hands down
Dude look at the stats brady leads in just about EVERYTHING. Its not close, 5 rings, 2 MVPS, 4 SB mvps, most wins ever, better stats. Its over dude brady is the greatest to ever do it
cacable7 ya and Montana could have lost 4 and been an average qb lol can't play in what if's
the timeless "what if" game
Terry Bradshaw is also 4 and 0. Aikmen is 3and 0. Eli is 2 and 0. Yes, defence matters. Everytime the 1 defence faces the number 1 offence defence wins. Like Baltimore, Chicago, Seattle. That's football. But Undeafeted is still Undeafeted.
Joe Montana NEVER Lost a super bowl and threw zero interceptions in all Superbowls.
tom brady is 5x better than montana...tom brady is the GOAT
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What's funny is everybody likes to talk about how Brady is a system qb and when they put a different qb in they do good as well. Montana leaves and Steve Young plays better than Montana ever did.
No he didn't.
Brian Duneman Both were very good QB but Montana was the better QB, the only reason Steve started over Montana was because Montana was getting old
Montana was definitely better but age was the deciding factor as the team went with youth to prolong success which basically kept them in the hunt for 10 years before young retired.
@@mr.sinister2029 Steve Young's stats and winning percentage was better then Montana's. He also did the majority of if during free agency and salary cap.
Brian Duneman Joe was also a system QB . All Qb are part of a system . Every team has a system great players are require to make the system work