They should have realigned the football teams only and left the tradition conferences alone for the other sports. No need to ruin all of college sports.
@@chrism6880not the money. Money is an inanimate object. It's the Greed of humanity that is the root of the problem. Don't lessen the truth by blaming a blameless object. Blame the root and cause always.
The problem is there is a huge legal rabbit hole that is being opened here. The Players should be paid. But who pays them? The Universities are owned by state, that includes the names of the schools. Okay, but if the Athletic orgs and Boosters are paying, then they need to offer health insurance and social security to the players. Retirement plans and so forth. Can college kids form an effective union to bargain for benefits? If a player gets hurt and suffers long term health effects, who is on the hook for that? the state? The university? The Athletic association? These are questions that must be answered before a professional "Super League:" can be established. The questions should been dealt and answered decades ago. Now they are trying to lay down train tracks in front of a high speed train.
You can presumably have the schools offer the base employment requirements (medical+minimum wage+etc) and then booster groups paying the difference (which would be the majority for many high profile athletes). I don't see any issue there.
@@zachansen8293 It's a tall order to start asking state governments to pay and manage the benefits for Football players without giving them a massive cut of the revenue.
@@litedawg Would all the different states allow that? Can you even do that for a sports entitty? NFL Players get W-2s. They aren't independent contractors.
Definitely all interesting questions, and players will need to form a union of some sort to be sure they're not getting screwed...because we know that'll happen if they can't collectively bargain for some or all of what you mention. College football is going to be chaos for awhile, but formations of a super league seems like a step to resolving and codifying legalities. And you're right, this should have happened ages ago. Greedy people were at the trough far too long
They are trying to survive and thrive. The NCAA basically collapsed. NIL got stupid. Everyone was screaming that it’s fair to pay players. And people (for some weird reason) thought it would level the playing field. It didn’t. Kids are getting offered over $10 million to play at a school. Even the NFL has a salary cap. Those conferences knew to step up and ensure their league’s success. But they are the ones leading the way to solve these issues.
They just happen to be the most successful conferences and filling that role. If the Big12 and ACC had been dominant they would for sure be using that as leverage
One of the biggest things that turns me off about CFB is there's like 800 teams. (Slight exaggeration, but you get the point) I'd like to see a promotion/relegation system like they have in Soccer in the Premiere League. Have, say 32 teams in the top tier and the rest in the bottom tiers and whoever wins the bottom tier "championship" gets promoted to the top tier and whoever finishes worst in the top tier gets relegated.
I grew up watching college football with my Dad. By the time my son was in elementary school, none of his buddies cared about anything but xbox. He is in his mid 20's now and couldn't care less about football. The way of life is changing. Honestly sports are going to quickly have no relevance.
@carrite The NFL will be last, but they will eventually feel it, too. The next generation (Gen Alpha) just doesn't care enough to maintain current numbers in 20 - 30 years. The networks' desperation for content is the only thing propping up some leagues (*cough*...NBA) right now.
Yea it’s weird. I don’t know where the viewership is coming from unless it’s retired boomers. My kids are too busy either working or engaging in their hobbies. I watch my alma mater play but that is about the longest I can sit and passively watch something.
@@zachansen8293 Those here at the kids' table heard Rich lead off saying he wants Sankey as commissioner of college sports & athletics as a whole. Might get some hearing aids old man.
I think you missed the point. Sankey was yelling at about his own SEC schools not asking questions. Alabama, Georgia, Texas, LSU...this list goes on. He is mad with them. Sankey saying that you can't solve problems in a room full of people has me thinking its one of 2 things. 1) He is tired of having to ask the schools....maybe he wants full control like a dictator OR 2) Sankey is getting stressed out over everything and possibly getting burned out and looking for the exit I don't think he was talking about a super league. He sounded like a guy very frustrated with how everyone is not treating this situation as importantly and urgently as he is.
Rich, you are so wrong on this subject. Fans of the leftover schools that are not part of the “Super League” will boycott and not watch this tv product. Segmenting fanbases will only lead to segmented TV audience. It’s a lose lose for everyone because eventually that TV contract won’t be worth as much as predicted and Networks will lose money For ever casual CFB fan you gain, you’ll lose 10x die hard fans
If the super league has all the teams with the biggest fan bases then it won't matter. The top 40 fan bases are bigger than the bottom 100 fan bases combined.
You think they're worried about the small fanbases of those smaller schools?? If they have the biggest 64ish fanbases included, then they aren't worried about them. Besides if you're a football fan of Troy St for example, you're most likely still going to watch the best college football being shown on TV, and the CFP. I don't put any belief in your statement for the larger percentage of those fan bases
@@mikef3896 think about this, schools that are used to going 8-4 are gonna start going 5-7. 6-6, 2-10. Hell, let’s see what the horseshoe looks like when OSU has 4 losses going in late November. The fans that are used to winning will get tired of losing and will also find something else to do on Saturdays. Be careful what you wish for
@@chriss8718 first off, as a fan of a G5 school, we are pretty much THE most die hard CFB fans out there. We actively root for a school that has little chance to even make the CFP. But we still watch due to the association with our Alma mater. The second we are excluded, we simply will not tune in to the big games as much anymore. People are already getting turned off and boycotting Plus think about this, schools that are used to going 8-4 are gonna start going 5-7. 6-6, 2-10. Hell, let’s see what the horseshoe looks like when OSU has 4 losses going in late November. The fans that are used to winning will get tired of losing and will also find something else to do on Saturdays. Be careful what you wish for
I would not say, "A CFB super league is coming." I would say, "college football is ending, and bwing replaced by a semi-pro league for 18-20 yearolds."
Big conferences in private rooms with no representatives for the players that do the work. Goes back to why they called them amateur athletes to begin with, to avoid workman’s comp and other “employer” responsibilities. Did not have the players in the room for those decisions either
The top 24 schools in 2 conferences. So, 12 teams who all play each other-eliminating these incredibly uneven schedules. Then an 8 team National Championship playoff with the top teams from each conference...the first round being played across conference-the #1 and #2 teams hosting home games, on campus games.
The NCAA really messed this up. They are supposed to be the governing body of college sports. There is no structure, rules, or limits to NIL. Hell, even the NFL has a salary cap. Transfer portal is a mess. Kids are transferring a couple times a year. Conferences are collapsing and expanding. And the NCAA disciplinary board is a joke. It’s sad to to see, but it all fell apart
I remember when California started Name Image and Likeness compensation for college athletes. A whole lot of college coaches lost their minds and bashed it. Now its in their toolbox to recruit high school athletes 😂
B10 is such a more premium brand all around: USC, Michigan, UCLA, Washington, Wisconsin, UIUC are all leviathans of the university world. Only UF is in that world. Oh, Vandy you say, boooom NW is more prestigious and important.
@@RCJH2022 It’s about more than just football. Purdue isn’t a great football program, but it’s a hugely important engine for innovation/technology, Maryland and Rutgers are excellent schools and have alumni networks in the Amtrak corridor, UCLA is a public Ivy now…. The B10 is just on another level outside of football. Honestly, UT Austin made a mistake not joining.
@@OhioVworld YEAH.... But No. They are called "Athletic conferences" and not "Education conferences" For a reason, its all about athletics. Maryland, Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, Illinois.... Those are some pretty bad programs. The Big10 and SEC are practically the same, outside the top 4/5 schools the drop off is huge. Even Nebraska the last decade has been a disaster. A lot of these schools are just benefiting from being in those leagues before all this realignment stuff started. Outside the top 4/5 None of them are better than an average Big12 or ACC school.
Boosters are already paying blue chip high school players and these kids transfer to from one school to another for greater visibility. This was happening here in Texas even when I played back in the early 70's. Will all of this kill the sport in sports before it's over. Why would the average player want to play anymore when there is no big payday for them even though they have to work as hard if not harder just to be a part of the team. Money is never democratized.
Or follow the NFL and make the money socialized. All share one big pool evenly. Each team has the same fair chance. Have a draft, contracts, free agency rules, etc. The NFL is most popular sport in America for a reason.
Very widespread. Catholic schools in the Chicago area are known for offering benefits. I can't swear to large cash payments, but Ive met a few people in my life who went on scholarship with a travel stipend if they lived a long enough distance away. They're basically all-star teams from a huge talent pool while public schools get the leftovers and can only use kids who live within the school's residential boundaries
I certainly hope not. I don’t want to see FSU and Clemson or North Carolina in the SEC. Some decisions appear expedient and attractive in the short term but the long term impact is destructive. That is what I see if the SEC expands again. There needs to be multiple competitive leagues such as Big10, SEC, ACC etc. The SEC is already essentially a super league. Growing that divided between haves and have nots will simply alienate tens of millions of College Football fans. That will be good for the SEC and really bad for College Football
The NCAA basketball tournament is not 68 teams. It is over 300 teams. The reason is that conference tournament winners get an automatic bid to the NCAA March madness. And all conference teams make the conference tournament in 80% of the conferences. Therefore, in theory, a team could be winless during the regular season, win all their games in March and April and be national champions. That is a fact, and I don’t know why people do not understand that especially the people that do sports for a living like Rich Eisen . As far as football goes, the NCAA needs to go away. They can manage all the Olympic sports. But football is a separate and powerful entity. And it has to be run separately. And now that the players are getting paid do away with football athletic scholarships. The players will be employees of the university, and if they want to go to school, they can pay for it out of their own pocket. Also, here is another idea. Football should organize itself into a super conference or super conferences. But leave the Olympic sports in the old conference alignments. For example, the Pac 12 would still exist in every sport except for football. With 12 teams..
This makes too much sense; that's why it will probably never happen. Totally agree with everything you said here. I've been saying for a while now that conference basketball tournaments are an extension of the NCAA Tournament. I've been against expanding the NCAA Tournament. With regard to football, just separate from the NCAA. All of the chaos that's happening in college sports today has everything to do with football. Former UCLA coach Chip Kelly said all of the schools should just be independent in football like Notre Dame and keep the conference alignments in all other sports. I think he said it made absolutely no sense for the UCLA softball team to have to travel cross country to play Rutgers.
@johnhenryNC I don’t agree with Chip Kelly that all the teams should be independent in football. There has to be some kind of structure or organization. Which includes Notre Dame. Because you still have to maintain the regional rivalries and the traditional rivalries as well. I would like to see four conferences with roughly about the same amount of teams. You would have a 12 team national tournament, with the four conference winners getting automatic bids. But not necessarily a first round bye. With eight wildcard teams that could come from any of the conferences. And those teams would be determined by the old computer system that they used to use for the old bowl championship series system. They could tweak the program to make it a little more accurate. For seeding the tournament, use the computer system to rank the 12 teams. Take the committees out of it. Rich people sitting around a table should not be determining the teams that go to the tournament.
@@shackdaddy7106 Thinking back to that Chip Kelly discussion, I do believe he said something about having like 9-team regional divisions in football. I like your thoughts on the subject.
It’s going to happen within the next three years. The NCAA is weak. They don’t do anything anymore. Football is powerful and rich. The NCAA can manage the Olympic sports.
Theres 134 d1 schools, there should be 3 tiers, playoffs on each level. Bottom 2 of top tuer get replaced by top 2 of tier 2, bottom of tier 2 get replaced by top of tier 3. Everyone can go up or down. Use the average of historical recruitment rankings for the history of each school to set the tier.
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
God I hope not. What about the “smaller” 70-80 schools that aren’t in this super league? They aren’t giving them a chance to built up to be a powerhouse. Should be like basketball and have every conference winner get an auto bid then the rest selected.
@@CIF-pm7tk you think the WAC and Southland are in the G5?! Tell me you don’t know the FBS landscape without telling me lol So many casuals saying “wE nEeD a SuPeR lEaGuE” but have no idea how the sport works
@@coachgonzalezpg1742 Boise, Central Florida, Cincinnati, TCU are great examples of what can be done if a school commits to building. They are now in power conferences. Gonzaga, San Diego state in basketball. Plus look what SDSU’s record for football too the past 10-13 years. Imagine if they had resources like schools in P4 conference. What kid wouldn’t want to play in San Diego?!
The important thing he forgot to mention was the fans of the top soccer clubs said no to the super league it would be like Alabama Georgia and Michigan fans being like no pressuring college football to not exclude other schools like Oregon state or big 12 schools but the opposite is happening here in college football the fans openly encourage it
@@Schlub14 yea that's literally the only thing that stopped the soccer super league from forming the fans of Barcelona real Madrid Chelsea saying it will destroy rivalries and tradition and feeling the pressure from their fans teams started to back out one by one like USC saying na we're going back to the PAC or Texas and Oklahoma fans forcing them to stay in the big 12
@@noelramirez1551 unfortunately it seems fans here don’t know any better and we get sold on these marquee matchups but the backbone is regional rivalries. Money talks though.
As a person who works in Corporate America, I can assure you, that statement is so perfectly true: You are not going to fix the big problems we face in big rooms filled with people.
Football participation is in decline outside of the South, so the SEC is going to be in the drivers seat of football anyways. I'm sure the BIG's rosters are chocked full of players from Florida and Texas. I don't even bother watching college football anymore. It's just a drama fest.
You know what, the European Football system would be perfect for college football. A Super League would just be those top teams, a system with promotions and relegations on the other hand would still force the best teams to play against teams on their level instead of having 80-90% of the games be predetermined blowouts but would also allow smaller schools to get promoted into that top league. This system works everywhere that isn't the US and will work for college as well. Doing regional divisions like the pro leagues in the US would still results in most games for the top teams being blowouts and boring TV for anyone who isn't a fan of that college already. The real reason Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus really wanted the Super League was because they felt it will be hard to compete with the oil and TV money in England and they saw the US sports leagues and wanted the same thing. They wanted to be the NFL. They also didn't like UEFA, where small country associations have the same power as the 5 big leagues and where there's a lot of corruptness. Somehow, Real Madrid is still dominating UEFA. It will be ironic if while they want a system like the US, someone in the US would adopt their system.
The European system doesn’t actually work very well in Europe either. The rich just get richer and everyone else is danger of bankruptcy. They certainly have no chance of ever winning anything. The top teams in the UK are mostly just sportswashing operations for oligarchs. The financial fair play rules are a joke.
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
Texas had this problem with the B12 after it broke up in 2011-2012. Texas was not allowed to lead so we left. The same is going to happen with the SEC and B1G once they get their teams.
I would have 4 geographic conferences: West, Central, North East, South East. Every school tiered English football style. The same school could be in different competition tiers/leagues and the 4 regions then have a final four championship. Relegation games could be bowl games to add some drama. Thoughts?
There's a lot of money floating around, but the "big boys" are ultimately going to want to reduce the number of hands in the pot. Even in the biggest confereces, Big 10 & SEC, cash will drive the top 50% (at most) completely out of the current model. Michigan, Ohio St. Penn St. | Georgia, Bama, LSU | after that, it will be musical chairs for the next 10 spots.
@@UNCGRAD0647 Certainly Texas and Oklahoma would be in the next list, but they would have more political hurdles to jump coming late into the SEC. Regardless, they would certainly be included. As would Clemson and Florida St, most likely. Then it really gets competitive.
Once the schools start paying directly then a super league is fait accompli…it must happen. NIL/portal made it difficult enough but lesser schools can still retain important players by directing most of their money to them. Once it becomes direct pay for play it’s over.
College football teams have been forming their own conferences and moving for the last 10 years and more. Nothing you said was revolutionary Rich. The SEC with Oklahoma and Texas soon is already a super conference. The others are just trying to keep up.
So we’re talking about a Joint Chiefs of Staff with all the Conference Heads and possibly a term limited leadership so no one conference has all the power in order to make CFB run smoother
Really just ready to skip to the end. North Carolina, Virginia, Duke, and Clemson to sec Florida state and Miami to big ten Stanford and Notre Dame somewhat independent somewhat big ten Louisville, Pittsburgh, Virginia tech, and nc state to big 12
Streamlining NIL rights and transfer portals to clarify rules will help everyone . But for the love of God Rich stop saying and implying the SEC or Big Ten commishes are trying to protect the rights and transfers of student athletes. Their first priority always is like the NCAA is always making money. Period and you know it.
I think the talk for schools to pay players on a permanent basis needs to be put on hold. We haven't really had NIL for that long, and we also have the transfer portal along with a new CFP expansion and conference restructuring all within less than a decade of play. These Next 3 years are going to be the most revealing and true representation pertaining to the effects of all these changes. We have all the Super duper seniors from covid pretty much all gone, Programs are coming out of the infancy stages of NIL and the portal, there will be useful changes in conference structures the coming seasons, and now people want to add gasoline to the fire after we just got it under control? Perhaps the super league will be necessary in the future, but can we see what the game looks like for a couple seasons please. We all love this sport and no one wants to see bigger problems created because we were so eager to change 5000 things at once.
3 years ago, when “paying college football players” talked really started gaining a foothold, many of us said it was a bad idea because it would guarantee little schools could not compete with big schools. And look where we are today…a school isn’t making the college playoffs unless they are top 10 in NIL money…being proven out by the schools that made the CFP the past 2 years; Michigan (7th), Texas (1st), Alabama (2nd), Georgia (5th), and Ohio State (3rd), with Washington (22nd) and TCU (33rd) being the outliers. But Washington very easily could have been replaced by USC (4th) or Oregon (8th). And Florida State (10th) had a legitimate opportunity to make it. But the schools outside the top 35 (even outside top 50) like Tulane, SMU, Liberty, Utah, Troy, and UTSA (all who had as good or better records than at least 1 team that made it in the playoffs) weren’t even in consideration to make the playoffs. Bookmark it, next years 12 team playoff will be; Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama, FSU, Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, Missouri, Penn State, Ole Miss, and Oklahoma. The top 12 teams with the highest NIL total over the last 2 years plus what’s currently coming in next year.
I hope Washington makes next season's playoff, but they're currently in rebuilding mode (with almost all new players and coaches). I'll be happy if they win seven games and get invited to a decent bowl game.
The CST proposal is the only thing that will save college athletics. It won't happen though because as we all know the networks now run the entire thing.
Why would the big ten follow Sankey? That’ll never happen… The big ten makes more money…. “ leaders and legends”….. Sankey is living off of Slive’s legacy
I’d LOVE this. CFB with a super league but bottom 3 teams are “relegated” each year. Just like the english premier league. That way everyone has something to play for every year. The relegation scheme is the one thing we’re missing in the US sports leagues.
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
Power 5+ football and men's basketball both need to operate nationally. Do it like the Premier League with maybe three or four 12 team divisions where teams can get relegated and advance each year. The rest of the sports, as well as teams that don't qualify for the super league then use traditional regional conference alignments that the super leagues help pay for. This is pretty much what is happening anyway, let's just formalize it and help it run better.
@@markd.5471. I don’t think it would but couldn’t care less if it did. Thankfully with streaming and so many channels we have freedom to choose what we watch.
@@kcnoise no it isn’t. Not when coaches are getting paid $10 million a year. People watch the games whether in person or on TV to watch the players play. The players deserve a share of that money.. But they don’t need a scholarship they should just be employees of the university. Scholarships, especially in football are not for free education anymore. They are an investment in their football program. In which universities get billions of dollars in revenue.
You definitely have to fully pay college athletes to play if this is the case. Colleges are clearly doing this for money then trying to cry that it’s an educational institution and can’t pay students.
You are incorrigible The Big Ten is not going to a super league nor going to let outsiders dictate what is best for our membership, esp someone like the SEC commissioner of a football is everything league
I tried to tell everyone for two decades that you were going to destroy college sports as we know them if you started paying players. Add the transfer portal on top of that and you'll have one big mess on your hands. Some people are going to enjoy this new world. I personally hate it.
To the SEC & Big-10: Please just form your d@mn Super Football League already. Come together, add a few ACC schools, jettison your lesser-members ... and be utterly separate from the rest of college sports, endless money in-hand. Then those of us from poor schools can get on with never caring about college football again and can turn our attention to Winter and Spring exclusively.
If the NCAA hadn't been so stubborn, and been happy to give subsidies and benefits to players with finanical need they probably wouldn't have had to go to court. Personally, I've got next to no interest in college football anymore, the attraction was rivalries and traditions reinforced by the existing conferences. Sure, conferences have always changed a bit, but now it's disappearing, everything that made college football unique. CFB has always been too too heavy, and this isn't helping.
And what does any of this have to do with actual higher education? Nothing, of course. What I respect about football in the UK is clubs have academies. Prospective football professionals attend those, not college. Having taught at three Division I schools with major football programs, I can tell you that student athletes have no time or energy for anything but football. God bless them, but most will never ever step foot inside an NFL locker room.
College football programs need to step up or be left behind. Why should Purdue, Vandy, Indiana be in the power 4 or eventually 2 conferences? If you sick long enough then bye. Get better and compete. Reward the programs that are proving their worth on the field.
All of this is wrecking college football. I liked how the conferences worked. The playoff was fine even if they wanted to expand it. Now with NIL and what’s going on with the conference closures the sport is a mess.
While I haven't paid a bit of attention to college football in 20 years, I think it's high time the top 32 teams (or whatever number works best) have their super league. No more Michigan vs Podunk Creampuff A&M matchups. Let 'em battle each other. And for smaller schools who will never actually compete with the big boys, let them have a more traditional college football vibe (mind you, the players do get reasonable stipends for their work, but they can be the actual "student athletes" with emphasis on being a student). The people who exploited athletes for decades and made billions should no longer have the power to do so. Create a minor league / super league and get those athletes properly paid for their work.
College athletics shouldn't exist. Colleges and universities should be for education, not sports. When college athletics became a business it lost all semblance of what it was, which was a place that kids could get theor education while possibly honing their athletic craft to possibly make it as a professional and get paid. It wasn't a destination to make money and career. If that's what you want then form a minor league or something ajd those 18+ ADULTS can go be employed by a company not tied to education institutions. It's ludicrous. We are taking tax payer money and giving it to state colleges to then pay them to play football? And that's a good use of money to better our society? 🤦♂️
it sucks its all about money and tv and betting nowadays Its ruined sports. NFL is almost unwatchable. NBA is unwatchable. MLB is getting close. Just sad
Thank you for catching and addressing this issue. It's a huge pile of detritus coming, and the NCAA are not capable of managing the conversation at this point. The world has changed, and will continue to change. Inflexible ways of being are no longer sufficient. Start with the young athletes, look at what is best for them versus how we think it ahould look based on past experiences.
I think he is right this is inventible like imagine the TV ratings for a season opener of like idk Arizona v Alabama instead of Alabama playing incarnate wood in week 0 the money would sky rocket now ya you need to keep smaller schools but smaller schools can come with some bigger budgets think of Memphis Basketball think of old school Georgetown loyala Marymount Baylor football in the 2010s Hawaii and Boise State in football in the mid 2000s and through the super league failed think of the English Premier League they did this In 1997 after the English football FA didn’t want to do certain tv deals and other things to promote their clubs idk I think this is the future weather we like it or not especially with the NCAA on the verge of bankruptcy
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
Rich, I know the sun rises and sets on you, and you the greatest prognosticator since Puxatawney Phil saw this coming in 2023, you’re a little late to the party. In the early 1980’s they were talking about the big schools breaking away from everybody else because they didn’t want to share any revenues with smaller schools or conferences. They didn’t like lower scholarship levels because that brought more parity.
College football top and biggest 40 programs need to form their own league as no other teams can spend what these colleges give players with NIL or program facilities and not fair to average FBS program
They should have realigned the football teams only and left the tradition conferences alone for the other sports. No need to ruin all of college sports.
Money always ruins everything.
@@chrism6880not the money. Money is an inanimate object.
It's the Greed of humanity that is the root of the problem.
Don't lessen the truth by blaming a blameless object.
Blame the root and cause always.
Agreed %100. College football tv deals are making a mess of college sports. Power 5 college football needs to separate from the NCAA.
Greed is Good
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@@martinphillips7886 how are you in your 40s and still acting like a preteen troll?
The problem is there is a huge legal rabbit hole that is being opened here. The Players should be paid. But who pays them? The Universities are owned by state, that includes the names of the schools. Okay, but if the Athletic orgs and Boosters are paying, then they need to offer health insurance and social security to the players. Retirement plans and so forth. Can college kids form an effective union to bargain for benefits? If a player gets hurt and suffers long term health effects, who is on the hook for that? the state? The university? The Athletic association? These are questions that must be answered before a professional "Super League:" can be established.
The questions should been dealt and answered decades ago. Now they are trying to lay down train tracks in front of a high speed train.
You can presumably have the schools offer the base employment requirements (medical+minimum wage+etc) and then booster groups paying the difference (which would be the majority for many high profile athletes). I don't see any issue there.
They can 1099 them and not offer the benefits , I think.
@@zachansen8293 It's a tall order to start asking state governments to pay and manage the benefits for Football players without giving them a massive cut of the revenue.
@@litedawg Would all the different states allow that? Can you even do that for a sports entitty? NFL Players get W-2s. They aren't independent contractors.
Definitely all interesting questions, and players will need to form a union of some sort to be sure they're not getting screwed...because we know that'll happen if they can't collectively bargain for some or all of what you mention. College football is going to be chaos for awhile, but formations of a super league seems like a step to resolving and codifying legalities.
And you're right, this should have happened ages ago. Greedy people were at the trough far too long
The SEC and the Big 10 are the problem
They are trying to survive and thrive. The NCAA basically collapsed. NIL got stupid. Everyone was screaming that it’s fair to pay players. And people (for some weird reason) thought it would level the playing field. It didn’t. Kids are getting offered over $10 million to play at a school. Even the NFL has a salary cap. Those conferences knew to step up and ensure their league’s success. But they are the ones leading the way to solve these issues.
They just happen to be the most successful conferences and filling that role. If the Big12 and ACC had been dominant they would for sure be using that as leverage
No the SEC and the Big 10 are the money and the power.
Who says that athletes can have only four years of eligibility? If there are no rules, this will never stop.
Football, six should be the max.
So this could eventually become a rival professional league to the NFL.
One of the biggest things that turns me off about CFB is there's like 800 teams. (Slight exaggeration, but you get the point) I'd like to see a promotion/relegation system like they have in Soccer in the Premiere League. Have, say 32 teams in the top tier and the rest in the bottom tiers and whoever wins the bottom tier "championship" gets promoted to the top tier and whoever finishes worst in the top tier gets relegated.
No
@@pavelstrelchuk216 Sorry, it's been decided.
Man, SEC is the guy who started the forest fire and wants us to feel sorry for him when the forest fire burned his house down 20 miles away…
I grew up watching college football with my Dad. By the time my son was in elementary school, none of his buddies cared about anything but xbox. He is in his mid 20's now and couldn't care less about football. The way of life is changing. Honestly sports are going to quickly have no relevance.
Excuse me, Aaron- NFL on line one...
@carrite The NFL will be last, but they will eventually feel it, too. The next generation (Gen Alpha) just doesn't care enough to maintain current numbers in 20 - 30 years.
The networks' desperation for content is the only thing propping up some leagues (*cough*...NBA) right now.
Your son may be a nancy but CFB and the NFL are still setting viewership and revenue records. Sports will be just fine.
More hours of sports are consumed today than ever before.... It's just consumed in different ways
Yea it’s weird. I don’t know where the viewership is coming from unless it’s retired boomers. My kids are too busy either working or engaging in their hobbies. I watch my alma mater play but that is about the longest I can sit and passively watch something.
Hell no to Sankey running anything outside the SEC. Guys like him are the reason Charleston baseball was snubbed for a .500 Florida pretender.
It was a business decision. Florida has more fans than Charleston.
@@ko9655That sucks but true
The adults in the room are talking about college sports that matter. Go sit at the kids' table
@@zachansen8293 Those here at the kids' table heard Rich lead off saying he wants Sankey as commissioner of college sports & athletics as a whole. Might get some hearing aids old man.
So he made a business decision and that’s your criteria? Ok
I think you missed the point. Sankey was yelling at about his own SEC schools not asking questions. Alabama, Georgia, Texas, LSU...this list goes on. He is mad with them. Sankey saying that you can't solve problems in a room full of people has me thinking its one of 2 things.
1) He is tired of having to ask the schools....maybe he wants full control like a dictator
OR
2) Sankey is getting stressed out over everything and possibly getting burned out and looking for the exit
I don't think he was talking about a super league. He sounded like a guy very frustrated with how everyone is not treating this situation as importantly and urgently as he is.
How about when a player transfers to another university, the university that loses the player gets compensated for player development.
Rich, you are so wrong on this subject. Fans of the leftover schools that are not part of the “Super League” will boycott and not watch this tv product. Segmenting fanbases will only lead to segmented TV audience. It’s a lose lose for everyone because eventually that TV contract won’t be worth as much as predicted and Networks will lose money
For ever casual CFB fan you gain, you’ll lose 10x die hard fans
If the super league has all the teams with the biggest fan bases then it won't matter. The top 40 fan bases are bigger than the bottom 100 fan bases combined.
If there were that many fans of leftover schools they would be in the super league.
You think they're worried about the small fanbases of those smaller schools?? If they have the biggest 64ish fanbases included, then they aren't worried about them. Besides if you're a football fan of Troy St for example, you're most likely still going to watch the best college football being shown on TV, and the CFP. I don't put any belief in your statement for the larger percentage of those fan bases
@@mikef3896 think about this, schools that are used to going 8-4 are gonna start going 5-7. 6-6, 2-10. Hell, let’s see what the horseshoe looks like when OSU has 4 losses going in late November. The fans that are used to winning will get tired of losing and will also find something else to do on Saturdays.
Be careful what you wish for
@@chriss8718 first off, as a fan of a G5 school, we are pretty much THE most die hard CFB fans out there. We actively root for a school that has little chance to even make the CFP. But we still watch due to the association with our Alma mater. The second we are excluded, we simply will not tune in to the big games as much anymore. People are already getting turned off and boycotting
Plus think about this, schools that are used to going 8-4 are gonna start going 5-7. 6-6, 2-10. Hell, let’s see what the horseshoe looks like when OSU has 4 losses going in late November. The fans that are used to winning will get tired of losing and will also find something else to do on Saturdays.
Be careful what you wish for
If you’re an employee for the university as opposed to a student athlete… what stops a school from HIRING, let’s say, Cam Newton to be their new QB?
Sometimes I wish rich would just get to the point of the talking point/discussion because my god I was lost on what he was tryna say
I agree 100% but he’s gotta fill that air time lol
I would not say, "A CFB super league is coming." I would say, "college football is ending, and bwing replaced by a semi-pro league for 18-20 yearolds."
This is the Guy... Rich Eisen... one of the best if not THE best. The NFL and Richard Eisen... that's what I want this time of year.
Big conferences in private rooms with no representatives for the players that do the work. Goes back to why they called them amateur athletes to begin with, to avoid workman’s comp and other “employer” responsibilities. Did not have the players in the room for those decisions either
The top 24 schools in 2 conferences. So, 12 teams who all play each other-eliminating these incredibly uneven schedules. Then an 8 team National Championship playoff with the top teams from each conference...the first round being played across conference-the #1 and #2 teams hosting home games, on campus games.
So the NFL?
The NCAA really messed this up. They are supposed to be the governing body of college sports. There is no structure, rules, or limits to NIL. Hell, even the NFL has a salary cap. Transfer portal is a mess. Kids are transferring a couple times a year. Conferences are collapsing and expanding. And the NCAA disciplinary board is a joke. It’s sad to to see, but it all fell apart
I remember when California started Name Image and Likeness compensation for college athletes. A whole lot of college coaches lost their minds and bashed it. Now its in their toolbox to recruit high school athletes 😂
There are already are 2 super conferences. The Big 10 and the SEC.
B10 is such a more premium brand all around: USC, Michigan, UCLA, Washington, Wisconsin, UIUC are all leviathans of the university world. Only UF is in that world.
Oh, Vandy you say, boooom NW is more prestigious and important.
There are A LOT of dogshit program bottom feeders in those leagues. Don't be mistaken.
@@RCJH2022 It’s about more than just football.
Purdue isn’t a great football program, but it’s a hugely important engine for innovation/technology, Maryland and Rutgers are excellent schools and have alumni networks in the Amtrak corridor, UCLA is a public Ivy now….
The B10 is just on another level outside of football. Honestly, UT Austin made a mistake not joining.
@@OhioVworld YEAH.... But No. They are called "Athletic conferences" and not "Education conferences" For a reason, its all about athletics. Maryland, Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota, Illinois.... Those are some pretty bad programs. The Big10 and SEC are practically the same, outside the top 4/5 schools the drop off is huge. Even Nebraska the last decade has been a disaster. A lot of these schools are just benefiting from being in those leagues before all this realignment stuff started. Outside the top 4/5 None of them are better than an average Big12 or ACC school.
@@RCJH2022 given your argument, why are ALL the players called STUDENT-ATHLETES?
Boosters are already paying blue chip high school players and these kids transfer to from one school to another for greater visibility. This was happening here in Texas even when I played back in the early 70's. Will all of this kill the sport in sports before it's over. Why would the average player want to play anymore when there is no big payday for them even though they have to work as hard if not harder just to be a part of the team. Money is never democratized.
Or follow the NFL and make the money socialized. All share one big pool evenly. Each team has the same fair chance. Have a draft, contracts, free agency rules, etc. The NFL is most popular sport in America for a reason.
Very widespread. Catholic schools in the Chicago area are known for offering benefits. I can't swear to large cash payments, but Ive met a few people in my life who went on scholarship with a travel stipend if they lived a long enough distance away. They're basically all-star teams from a huge talent pool while public schools get the leftovers and can only use kids who live within the school's residential boundaries
They agreed yesterday unlimited transfers . Insane. If these schools sign 3 year contracts, that will slow the transfers down
it's hard to care about college football with the portal. You can't get behind players you don't know!!
I certainly hope not. I don’t want to see FSU and Clemson or North Carolina in the SEC. Some decisions appear expedient and attractive in the short term but the long term impact is destructive. That is what I see if the SEC expands again. There needs to be multiple competitive leagues such as Big10, SEC, ACC etc. The SEC is already essentially a super league. Growing that divided between haves and have nots will simply alienate tens of millions of College Football fans. That will be good for the SEC and really bad for College Football
The NCAA basketball tournament is not 68 teams. It is over 300 teams. The reason is that conference tournament winners get an automatic bid to the NCAA March madness. And all conference teams make the conference tournament in 80% of the conferences.
Therefore, in theory, a team could be winless during the regular season, win all their games in March and April and be national champions. That is a fact, and I don’t know why people do not understand that especially the people that do sports for a living like Rich Eisen .
As far as football goes, the NCAA needs to go away. They can manage all the Olympic sports. But football is a separate and powerful entity. And it has to be run separately. And now that the players are getting paid do away with football athletic scholarships. The players will be employees of the university, and if they want to go to school, they can pay for it out of their own pocket.
Also, here is another idea. Football should organize itself into a super conference or super conferences.
But leave the Olympic sports in the old conference alignments. For example, the Pac 12 would still exist in every sport except for football. With 12 teams..
This makes too much sense; that's why it will probably never happen. Totally agree with everything you said here. I've been saying for a while now that conference basketball tournaments are an extension of the NCAA Tournament. I've been against expanding the NCAA Tournament. With regard to football, just separate from the NCAA. All of the chaos that's happening in college sports today has everything to do with football. Former UCLA coach Chip Kelly said all of the schools should just be independent in football like Notre Dame and keep the conference alignments in all other sports. I think he said it made absolutely no sense for the UCLA softball team to have to travel cross country to play Rutgers.
@johnhenryNC I don’t agree with Chip Kelly that all the teams should be independent in football. There has to be some kind of structure or organization.
Which includes Notre Dame.
Because you still have to maintain the regional rivalries and the traditional rivalries as well.
I would like to see four conferences with roughly about the same amount of teams.
You would have a 12 team national tournament, with the four conference winners getting automatic bids. But not necessarily a first round bye.
With eight wildcard teams that could come from any of the conferences.
And those teams would be determined by the old computer system that they used to use for the old bowl championship series system. They could tweak the
program to make it a little more accurate.
For seeding the tournament, use the computer system to rank the 12 teams.
Take the committees out of it. Rich people sitting around a table should not be determining the teams that go to the tournament.
@@shackdaddy7106 Thinking back to that Chip Kelly discussion, I do believe he said something about having like 9-team regional divisions in football. I like your thoughts on the subject.
People have been predicting the football powers would split from the NCAA for at least 40 years.
It’s going to happen within the next three years. The NCAA is weak. They don’t do anything anymore.
Football is powerful and rich. The NCAA can manage the Olympic sports.
And it slowly has been happening more and more
Yes and we’ve been moving in that direction at breakneck speed for 4-5 years now. What’s your point?
The point is that it is much more difficult and complicated to make happen than the pundits imagine it will be.
Theres 134 d1 schools, there should be 3 tiers, playoffs on each level. Bottom 2 of top tuer get replaced by top 2 of tier 2, bottom of tier 2 get replaced by top of tier 3. Everyone can go up or down.
Use the average of historical recruitment rankings for the history of each school to set the tier.
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
All of this really makes you want to DESPISE major college sports and start following the FCS, D2, and D3 schools.
Not really
@@JosephRocco-mi4cm casual
God I hope not. What about the “smaller” 70-80 schools that aren’t in this super league? They aren’t giving them a chance to built up to be a powerhouse. Should be like basketball and have every conference winner get an auto bid then the rest selected.
How many of these schools become power houses?
They are already planning a playoff mac mt west, wac south land AAC ect.
Who cares
@@CIF-pm7tk you think the WAC and Southland are in the G5?! Tell me you don’t know the FBS landscape without telling me lol
So many casuals saying “wE nEeD a SuPeR lEaGuE” but have no idea how the sport works
@@coachgonzalezpg1742 Boise, Central Florida, Cincinnati, TCU are great examples of what can be done if a school commits to building. They are now in power conferences.
Gonzaga, San Diego state in basketball. Plus look what SDSU’s record for football too the past 10-13 years. Imagine if they had resources like schools in P4 conference. What kid wouldn’t want to play in San Diego?!
The important thing he forgot to mention was the fans of the top soccer clubs said no to the super league it would be like Alabama Georgia and Michigan fans being like no pressuring college football to not exclude other schools like Oregon state or big 12 schools but the opposite is happening here in college football the fans openly encourage it
Damn shame
@@Schlub14 yea that's literally the only thing that stopped the soccer super league from forming the fans of Barcelona real Madrid Chelsea saying it will destroy rivalries and tradition and feeling the pressure from their fans teams started to back out one by one like USC saying na we're going back to the PAC or Texas and Oklahoma fans forcing them to stay in the big 12
@@noelramirez1551 unfortunately it seems fans here don’t know any better and we get sold on these marquee matchups but the backbone is regional rivalries. Money talks though.
Why do banks want to DESTROY US sports smdh.
It sure as hell does make Greg sankey the bully! He isn’t in change of college athletics and shouldn’t be!!! STOP TRYING TO KILL COLLEGE ATHLETICS!
As a person who works in Corporate America, I can assure you, that statement is so perfectly true:
You are not going to fix the big problems we face in big rooms filled with people.
Hey Rich. 1st June, the T20 cricket world cup begins and for the first time, it is being held in the US. Maybe you could throw some light on it.
we have enough of insects right now with all the cicadas - you can keep your silly crickets (this was sarcasm, if you missed it)
This doesn't end until Cal and Stanford are in the SEC. 🐻🌲
Football participation is in decline outside of the South, so the SEC is going to be in the drivers seat of football anyways. I'm sure the BIG's rosters are chocked full of players from Florida and Texas. I don't even bother watching college football anymore. It's just a drama fest.
I read CFB as Canadian Foot Ball. Lol.
Question...Are they still student Athletes? Does GPA matter at all?
It's a semi-pro sports league.
Good discussion there….🤔😳👍😀
The NCAA is absolutely so greedy. They are ruining their own argument for why college sports are different from semi pro teams.
You know what, the European Football system would be perfect for college football.
A Super League would just be those top teams, a system with promotions and relegations on the other hand would still force the best teams to play against teams on their level instead of having 80-90% of the games be predetermined blowouts but would also allow smaller schools to get promoted into that top league.
This system works everywhere that isn't the US and will work for college as well.
Doing regional divisions like the pro leagues in the US would still results in most games for the top teams being blowouts and boring TV for anyone who isn't a fan of that college already.
The real reason Real Madrid, Barcelona and Juventus really wanted the Super League was because they felt it will be hard to compete with the oil and TV money in England and they saw the US sports leagues and wanted the same thing. They wanted to be the NFL.
They also didn't like UEFA, where small country associations have the same power as the 5 big leagues and where there's a lot of corruptness.
Somehow, Real Madrid is still dominating UEFA.
It will be ironic if while they want a system like the US, someone in the US would adopt their system.
relegation systems aren't good for sports where you want consistent advertisement and money. You'll never see them in American sports.
The European system doesn’t actually work very well in Europe either.
The rich just get richer and everyone else is danger of bankruptcy. They certainly have no chance of ever winning anything.
The top teams in the UK are mostly just sportswashing operations for oligarchs. The financial fair play rules are a joke.
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
Texas had this problem with the B12 after it broke up in 2011-2012. Texas was not allowed to lead so we left. The same is going to happen with the SEC and B1G once they get their teams.
I would have 4 geographic conferences: West, Central, North East, South East. Every school tiered English football style. The same school could be in different competition tiers/leagues and the 4 regions then have a final four championship. Relegation games could be bowl games to add some drama. Thoughts?
I gotta say, I don't hate it.
They literally just expanded conferences to get away from geographic conferences. They're not going to revert back to that
Yes
College football has become AAA baseball, not the big leauge but the step below the Big Show.
There's a lot of money floating around, but the "big boys" are ultimately going to want to reduce the number of hands in the pot. Even in the biggest confereces, Big 10 & SEC, cash will drive the top 50% (at most) completely out of the current model. Michigan, Ohio St. Penn St. | Georgia, Bama, LSU | after that, it will be musical chairs for the next 10 spots.
@@UNCGRAD0647 Certainly Texas and Oklahoma would be in the next list, but they would have more political hurdles to jump coming late into the SEC. Regardless, they would certainly be included. As would Clemson and Florida St, most likely. Then it really gets competitive.
Once the schools start paying directly then a super league is fait accompli…it must happen. NIL/portal made it difficult enough but lesser schools can still retain important players by directing most of their money to them. Once it becomes direct pay for play it’s over.
I hope not because then CFB just hit the dump if so
College football teams have been forming their own conferences and moving for the last 10 years and more. Nothing you said was revolutionary Rich. The SEC with Oklahoma and Texas soon is already a super conference. The others are just trying to keep up.
So we’re talking about a Joint Chiefs of Staff with all the Conference Heads and possibly a term limited leadership so no one conference has all the power in order to make CFB run smoother
Am I the only one who hears the high pitch tone in Rich's mic for every video? Drives me nuts.
Really just ready to skip to the end.
North Carolina, Virginia, Duke, and Clemson to sec
Florida state and Miami to big ten
Stanford and Notre Dame somewhat independent somewhat big ten
Louisville, Pittsburgh, Virginia tech, and nc state to big 12
The sad part of it all is Vanderbilt will be a part of whatever happens in the future. They should have been exiled from the SEC years ago.
Same w wake Forrest acc, northwestern big 10
Streamlining NIL rights and transfer portals to clarify rules will help everyone . But for the love of God Rich stop saying and implying the SEC or Big Ten commishes are trying to protect the rights and transfers of student athletes. Their first priority always is like the NCAA is always making money. Period and you know it.
Need to bring promotion and relegation to CFB like they do with soccer in Europe if this super league were to be formed.
College football died a long time ago. The media just doesn’t realize it yet.
I think the talk for schools to pay players on a permanent basis needs to be put on hold. We haven't really had NIL for that long, and we also have the transfer portal along with a new CFP expansion and conference restructuring all within less than a decade of play.
These Next 3 years are going to be the most revealing and true representation pertaining to the effects of all these changes. We have all the Super duper seniors from covid pretty much all gone, Programs are coming out of the infancy stages of NIL and the portal, there will be useful changes in conference structures the coming seasons, and now people want to add gasoline to the fire after we just got it under control?
Perhaps the super league will be necessary in the future, but can we see what the game looks like for a couple seasons please. We all love this sport and no one wants to see bigger problems created because we were so eager to change 5000 things at once.
3 years ago, when “paying college football players” talked really started gaining a foothold, many of us said it was a bad idea because it would guarantee little schools could not compete with big schools. And look where we are today…a school isn’t making the college playoffs unless they are top 10 in NIL money…being proven out by the schools that made the CFP the past 2 years; Michigan (7th), Texas (1st), Alabama (2nd), Georgia (5th), and Ohio State (3rd), with Washington (22nd) and TCU (33rd) being the outliers. But Washington very easily could have been replaced by USC (4th) or Oregon (8th). And Florida State (10th) had a legitimate opportunity to make it. But the schools outside the top 35 (even outside top 50) like Tulane, SMU, Liberty, Utah, Troy, and UTSA (all who had as good or better records than at least 1 team that made it in the playoffs) weren’t even in consideration to make the playoffs. Bookmark it, next years 12 team playoff will be; Michigan, Washington, Texas, Alabama, FSU, Georgia, Ohio State, Oregon, Missouri, Penn State, Ole Miss, and Oklahoma. The top 12 teams with the highest NIL total over the last 2 years plus what’s currently coming in next year.
I hope Washington makes next season's playoff, but they're currently in rebuilding mode (with almost all new players and coaches). I'll be happy if they win seven games and get invited to a decent bowl game.
My interest in college football is the lowest it’s ever been
The CST proposal is the only thing that will save college athletics. It won't happen though because as we all know the networks now run the entire thing.
Why would the big ten follow Sankey? That’ll never happen… The big ten makes more money…. “ leaders and legends”….. Sankey is living off of Slive’s legacy
I’d LOVE this. CFB with a super league but bottom 3 teams are “relegated” each year. Just like the english premier league. That way everyone has something to play for every year. The relegation scheme is the one thing we’re missing in the US sports leagues.
Doesn’t happen in conferences due to the iron clad contracts. If football breaks away this could happen!
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
Power 5+ football and men's basketball both need to operate nationally. Do it like the Premier League with maybe three or four 12 team divisions where teams can get relegated and advance each year. The rest of the sports, as well as teams that don't qualify for the super league then use traditional regional conference alignments that the super leagues help pay for. This is pretty much what is happening anyway, let's just formalize it and help it run better.
Excellent points! The P2 should just do their own thing.
And officially destroy college football and college sports for good? Great!
@@markd.5471. I don’t think it would but couldn’t care less if it did. Thankfully with streaming and so many channels we have freedom to choose what we watch.
The players will have a union.
Why not? They are employees not student athletes. Especially in football.
They get free education. That’s enough.
@@kcnoise no it isn’t. Not when coaches are getting paid $10 million a year. People watch the games whether in person or on TV to watch the players play. The players deserve a share of that money.. But they don’t need a scholarship they should just be employees of the university.
Scholarships, especially in football are not for free education anymore. They are an investment in their football program. In which universities get billions of dollars in revenue.
You definitely have to fully pay college athletes to play if this is the case. Colleges are clearly doing this for money then trying to cry that it’s an educational institution and can’t pay students.
It's not hard, where's the most money? Don't expect leadership from Tony Petite (sic).
You are incorrigible
The Big Ten is not going to a super league nor going to let outsiders dictate what is best for our membership, esp someone like the SEC commissioner of a football is everything league
I tried to tell everyone for two decades that you were going to destroy college sports as we know them if you started paying players. Add the transfer portal on top of that and you'll have one big mess on your hands. Some people are going to enjoy this new world. I personally hate it.
To the SEC & Big-10: Please just form your d@mn Super Football League already. Come together, add a few ACC schools, jettison your lesser-members ... and be utterly separate from the rest of college sports, endless money in-hand.
Then those of us from poor schools can get on with never caring about college football again and can turn our attention to Winter and Spring exclusively.
you are part of the problem, this will just turn into an nfl minor league
If the NCAA hadn't been so stubborn, and been happy to give subsidies and benefits to players with finanical need they probably wouldn't have had to go to court.
Personally, I've got next to no interest in college football anymore, the attraction was rivalries and traditions reinforced by the existing conferences. Sure, conferences have always changed a bit, but now it's disappearing, everything that made college football unique.
CFB has always been too too heavy, and this isn't helping.
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These poor babies. Such a difficult thing. 😂😂
Show me the Money! Don't be naive.
Hell no to sankey....hell no
And what does any of this have to do with actual higher education? Nothing, of course. What I respect about football in the UK is clubs have academies. Prospective football professionals attend those, not college. Having taught at three Division I schools with major football programs, I can tell you that student athletes have no time or energy for anything but football. God bless them, but most will never ever step foot inside an NFL locker room.
If we get a super league, its over, not watching another nfl
SEC is garbage outside 2 teams. Georgia and Alabama
College football programs need to step up or be left behind. Why should Purdue, Vandy, Indiana be in the power 4 or eventually 2 conferences? If you sick long enough then bye. Get better and compete. Reward the programs that are proving their worth on the field.
All of this is wrecking college football. I liked how the conferences worked. The playoff was fine even if they wanted to expand it. Now with NIL and what’s going on with the conference closures the sport is a mess.
F ESPN
While I haven't paid a bit of attention to college football in 20 years, I think it's high time the top 32 teams (or whatever number works best) have their super league. No more Michigan vs Podunk Creampuff A&M matchups. Let 'em battle each other. And for smaller schools who will never actually compete with the big boys, let them have a more traditional college football vibe (mind you, the players do get reasonable stipends for their work, but they can be the actual "student athletes" with emphasis on being a student). The people who exploited athletes for decades and made billions should no longer have the power to do so. Create a minor league / super league and get those athletes properly paid for their work.
Are you saying this about BuyHio $tate's cupcake schedule this season?
I don't recall specifically so I may owe Rich an apology but I bet he was clutching his pearls when the SEC decide to play football in 2020.
I don't care what they do anymore I can't stand watching it anymore
NIL will destroy "Amateur Athletics". A collapse is coming, and the "Bread and Circuses" will be part of the massive crushing damage.
Seems like you're grasping at straws here. Yes, there could eventually be a split-off, but this isn't it.
College athletics shouldn't exist. Colleges and universities should be for education, not sports. When college athletics became a business it lost all semblance of what it was, which was a place that kids could get theor education while possibly honing their athletic craft to possibly make it as a professional and get paid. It wasn't a destination to make money and career. If that's what you want then form a minor league or something ajd those 18+ ADULTS can go be employed by a company not tied to education institutions. It's ludicrous. We are taking tax payer money and giving it to state colleges to then pay them to play football? And that's a good use of money to better our society? 🤦♂️
it sucks its all about money and tv and betting nowadays Its ruined sports. NFL is almost unwatchable. NBA is unwatchable. MLB is getting close. Just sad
Thank you for catching and addressing this issue. It's a huge pile of detritus coming, and the NCAA are not capable of managing the conversation at this point. The world has changed, and will continue to change. Inflexible ways of being are no longer sufficient. Start with the young athletes, look at what is best for them versus how we think it ahould look based on past experiences.
I don't see it. Who gets in and who gets left out? Clearly it needs to be fair to all or not exist at all.
Now that college football has been bought and sold by media contracts and gone full pro why should I watch the second best pro league in the nation?
It would 100% make the NFL better which is the entire point of college football. Unless you wanted lifelong injuries I guess. But yeah, they should
College football has become a worse version of pro football with completely anonymous players. Who cares?
I miss the old Chris from Mr. Beast
I think he is right this is inventible like imagine the TV ratings for a season opener of like idk Arizona v Alabama instead of Alabama playing incarnate wood in week 0 the money would sky rocket now ya you need to keep smaller schools but smaller schools can come with some bigger budgets think of Memphis
Basketball think of old school Georgetown loyala Marymount Baylor football in the 2010s Hawaii and Boise State in football in the mid 2000s and through the super league failed think of the English Premier League they did this In 1997 after the English football FA didn’t want to do certain tv deals and other things to promote their clubs idk I think this is the future weather we like it or not especially with the NCAA on the verge of bankruptcy
Kylie Kelis?? You mean Kelce. Stop using AI and write your own scripts and video. Take ownership of your content.
Promotion and relegation in college football!
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
Rich so right!
One of the smartest sports talk people out there .
He’s way ahead of these other other talking heads that haven’t noticed this.
Forget the Super League. Go relegation and promotion instead.
No, promotion/relegation is the stupidest thing in sports. The three teams promoted to the EPL from the Championship for the 23-24 season...are the teams that are getting relegated back down for 24-25. Over the last dozen years, by-and-large the same teams that get promoted one year, go down the next year, or, within 3 years. The top teams in the Championship (the ones that are within automatic promotion, or, at least within range of the promotion playoff) are mostly all teams that had been in the EPL in the last dozen years. The same old teams bounce up-and-down. And the others just sit comfortably in 11th, or 12th, or 13th place, never going anywhere. That's what promotion/relegation gets you.
Rich, I know the sun rises and sets on you, and you the greatest prognosticator since Puxatawney Phil saw this coming in 2023, you’re a little late to the party. In the early 1980’s they were talking about the big schools breaking away from everybody else because they didn’t want to share any revenues with smaller schools or conferences. They didn’t like lower scholarship levels because that brought more parity.
It’s inevitable.
College football top and biggest 40 programs need to form their own league as no other teams can spend what these colleges give players with NIL or program facilities and not fair to average FBS program