nobody 123 exactly man, top 5s are hard as fuck to make, I can't stand leaving out certain rappers but that's the challenge of it I guess Yet people still take it as a moment to try and" educate" you on the culture because you left out their favourite backpack rapper from arizona or some shit. People get fucking bloodthirsty over GOAT lists, that's why I only partake over comment sections, I dont wanna die for this shit 😂
SAMO KiiNG dude please. That best mc shit is opinion at best. At the most it's popular opinion. The reason people do that because they either conform or they are frustrated someone does not share the same opinion. It's like that "Made you look" remix. It's easily arguable that Luda and Kiss washed Nas on that track, but since it's Nas, popular opinion is Nas did better. You can't say someone is better without another being discredited.
Why everyone sleeps on Andre3000. Most creative . He's a real Artist .. great fashion sense. He's the best writer composter and rapper in my opinion. Outkast changed the south.. He started the fashion trends rappers now days . he's lyrically and musically gifted than most of the top 5. He's always consistent in delivery. wordsmith.
Daniel McLaren I agree his fashion is straight up fruity. That bull shit agenda he has to play into. But as a lyricist he is great......however he needs a real solo album to validate how great he really is.
He never got the credit he deserved. 1 big reason is that Kanye overshadowed him. The lane Lupe was in during the 2000's Kanye was at the forefront, even though technically Lupe is a better skilled rapper. If the cool & food & liquor dropped today he would be more valued.
Malthe Rossel very true man. & kdot has a very similar cadence to Lupe when it comes to his approach on records with deeper/in depth meanings, & hidden messages.
Can we please stop sleeping on Big Boi? I think it is so disrespectful how people are quick to mention Andre, but Big Boi has had plenty of individual success with Sir Lucious Left Foot, I would say that album will go down as a classic. Its so slept on and the experimentation of Vicious Lies and Dangerous Truths that was not as good as Sir Lucious, but to see Big Boi step out of his comfort zone working with Phantogram. Big Boi is just not another rapper and I LOVE 3K, but please do not sleep on Big Boi.
true but that doesn't mean there aren't various degrees of good and bad, i personally would characterize quality as whether it succeeds its artistic intention and how well those appeal to me (ie a feel good song that makes you feel good or a horror core song that makes you scared, or a political song that has good thoughtful messages ) how creativity it is and the influence those innovative decisions had on the medium as a whole, the difficulty of the craft (which is why i respect a lot of "lyrical miracle" rap despite it being a pretty saturated sub genre). 2 and 3 in particular are the most concerned with technically ability like rhyme and flow while for the most part all 3 is relevant to the lyrics themselves. for example Kendrick Lamar's best albums hits each criteria the hardest, exceptionally innovative with extremely unique flows and production (especially in TPAB), compelling in its message, and technically proficient, and those are considered some of the best albums of all time. same with a lot of the other "goats" like Nas and big, both succeeded at what they were trying to do in each song compellingly, wrote their songs in a difficult way that required wit, and innovated the genre. even some sound cloud rappers occasionally meet some of these marks and honestly good for them (granted plenty don't, looking at you lil Xan).
Mixtape weezy Lil wayne was unmatched because of his constancy and quality output. Not to mention his cultural relevance, he's arguably one of the most influential to do it. So many different dope flows, def my top 10 all time. Sad that ppl downplay his career when he unarguably ran hip hop for 4 years...
Lupe Fiasco. No other rappers are making concept albums like Tetsuo & Youth, intertwining social issues, spirituality, cartoons and video games seamlessly. You can put 'Mural' against any other rapper's best song. He makes conscious songs over trap beats. Not to mention the Michael Young History epic. He's great by any measure of a rapper, wordplay, flow, metaphors allusions, couplets etc...and DROGAS Wave is on the way. Just my two cents..thank you guys for making this video for the culture.
Emmanuel D. Mural is in the top 3 of my favourite song. 1 The Great Gig In The Sky: Pink Floyd 2 March to the Sea: Twenty one pilots 3 Mural: Lupe Fiasco
Billy, From the Produce Section well from those albums he's probably only heard M.A.A.D city, poetic justice,alright,and king kunta. as he's said he hasn't actually listened to most of his catalog
Billy, From the Produce Section that dude didn't even hear them, he also says he doesn't listen to hip hop anymore. This guy's opinion on this means shit.
Billy, From the Produce Section yes. In the same way 2Pacolypse is stale. No comparing Pac to Kendrick because Pac is on another level but without a doubt Kendrick will bring out some better shit than gkmc. It's the same way as looking at eminems albums the Slim Shady LP is stale and not as good because of the MMLP. It goes for every rapper with a buzz don't think kendricks an exception because your basically saying he won't make anything better
PreparedDeath how does he tick all boxes? I like Pac but bars wise he's lacking. He says nothing amazing. Good beats but that's the producers and sound engineers. Not even the most original in flow nor subject matter. He s a good rapper. If He s your favorite dope but that doesn't make him the goat
taaj howell Brenda's Got A Baby, California Love, To Live And Die In LA, Runnin, 2 Of Americaz Most Wanted, All Eyez On Me, Ambitionz Az A Ridah, Ghetto Gospel, Dear Mama, I Get Around, Keep Ya Head Up, Only God Can Judge Me, Hit Em Up, How Do U Want It, Hail Mary, Me Against The World, and hundreds and hundreds more. Yeah forget that he ain't talented
taaj howell i always find it funny when people says yes he has good beats but its the producer and sound engineers work ... Of course but who fucking choosed the beat man ??? Eminem whad the best producer in the world but most of his beats are wack, beats selection are one of the quality of a rapper. Drake, Lil wayne and kendrick are very good for that that's why their music almost always sound good to the ears, choosing a beat that will fit you well is a skill
Wassup hiphopdx I'd rather you debate with a dude that's not so bias to music he obviously doesn't listen to .. Kendrick Lamar is arguably one of the greatest period , I noticed he never said anything when you brought up Wayne .. how could you not recognize Wayne skills,, innovation, impact on hip-hop , even Scarface who he was dickriding so much said Wayne is one of the greatest of all time ... Use that quote in the next show ... please debate with someone more like yourself .Who's more objective and introspective
Lupe fiasco's hip hop saved my life was a great 3rd party song... words I've never said was so socially great... but 2pac was so great and makes you feel something great every time.
Loool, GZA, MF DOOM 😂 Nobody listen that shit man cmon ... You cant put underground rapper on a GOAT list, they dont have influence, they dont have cultural relevance .. If they are not famous is because they arent good, period. They can be amazing lyricist but rap is not only that but also flow, voices, delivery, charisma, energy, beat selection !!!
Were is Wayne ? Were is Kanye ? Were is Drake ? Were is fucking snoop dogg ? Biggie had 2fucking album in his career how can you put him ahead of Jay-z when he has 14number 1album and 22grammy ??? When he has 3classic and 6others very good albums ???? And lil wayne is the most influencial, original, creative and productive rapper ever, like it or not its a fact so if he isnt in your top 10 you are biased.
"Latest is greatest" is a cancerous mentality in hip hop. Smh. We're the only music genre where our "greatest" changes every 5 years. I can't stand that shit.
THE TOP TEN HAS TO BE: 1)2Pac (he had TOTAL control and mastery of the people) 2)A Tribe Called Quest (a group but hip hop nevertheless) 3)Scarface 4)Biggie 5)Rakim 6)MF DOOM and all his other aliases 7)Kendrick Lamar (this is because his lyrics are poetry in motion) 8)Ice Cube (wrote a lot of albums, songs and is a fucking genius in general- also has the BEST dis track in the WORLD) 9)Nas 10)Aesop Rock (personal favorite of mine) THE BEST YOUNG RAPPER OF ALL TIME (not hip hop, but rap in general) DIZZEE RASCAL *drops mic*
@@ItsValWow No I do too I was just replying to the first guy. Andre better easily, Pacs influence was massive but he has a mediocre discog. All Eyez On Me is the most overrated Classic OAT
Watching the end of this makes me think you should do a Breakdown piece about overshadowed greats, those that are collaborative and/or in groups. Big Boi is an example of a group and Royce is an example because of early AND recent collaboration with Eminem. The mention of Black Thought was also interesting.
That point about the old heads at the start is so good. People who are underrated in the GOAT convo, Lupe, DOOM, Andre, Big L, Big Pun, Kool G Rap, Chuck D, Black Thought, Canibus and Scarface. Obviously the more common ones, Nas, Big, Pac, Em, Rakim, Kendrick, Jay Z are very good too.
only half way through, but I have to agree with Jude. Without knowledge of the entirety of hip hop, you cannot even be in a conversation discussing the GOAT. Some criminally underrated emcees (not GOAT status) are AZ, Rah Digga, Phonte, and Left Eye, yes Left Eye, go back and listen to Left Eye flow and then listen to pop Nicki Minaj, or Natina from Blaque. If you can't make educated comparisons you have no business even casting a vote in who the GOAT is. Great show so far. Can't wait to watch the rest!
I think both guys bring up great points. My ways of classifying someone a goat is from: 1. Influence 2. Critical Acclaim 3. Consistent Prime 4. Relevance 5. Commercial Success
These discussions are some of my favorite videos on youtube. Thanks Justin and Jude for being the two of the only cats around willing just see what the other one thinks about hip hop. RESPECK!
Jay Z- for the success Eminem/Lil Wayne- for the worldplay Lupe- for the intelligence Tupac- enough said Twista/Biggie- for the flow Outcast/Bone/Wu Tang- best groups Kanye- great production
I think it's almost impossible to determine the best rapper of all time...u can't do it without discrediting other rappers, is it Pac??What about the other cats from the 90's illmatic, ready to die don't count?What about LL cool J,Slick Rick, KRS or Rakeem(80s rappers) who came way before Pac(or any other 90s rapper) What about Eminem,3k,MF or even Kendrick(99-10s rappers) HipHop changes and evolves. sounds different every decade. How do we determine this,skill or Discography?
iMoose you simply can't crown a hip-hop artist as the greatest. impossible. it's not like pop or reggae, where you can easily say Michael Jackson & Bob Marley are the goats.
We are talking a time, when gangsta rap had emerged with the rise of N.W.A and Suge Knight’s Death Row. In a time when men were judged by what size gun they were carrying, Tupac was a man whom everyone respected despite his emotional bent of mind. He was the leader that Eminem could not be.
Eminem is like Jordan when he went to the Washington Wizards. too many lackluster performances done fucked his stats up and left it open for someone else to be considered the GOAT
I really look forward to these types of debates.you all respect each other and disagree... what a fucking concept now a days. Keep these coming. Respect
NewNinetys Tha Carter 2, 3 and 4 not to mention any of his mixtapes. And this is from a guy who also had countless memorable features. Biggie had two of the best albums in rap at that time. As far as straight spitting no one did it better. I don't think he is the GOAT but the way he was able to impact society in such a short amount of time gives him more than a reason to be in the top 5
@@desolatesouls3040 'scuse me for blunt but i been eating cunt since pimps was pushin pink caddies wit the fishtank pumps These kids dumb as fuck. Drake an entertainer, not a rapper. Wayne ain't close to top 20. Pac a poet, and no disrespect, but no top 5. Check the fucking Big ghost chronicles softest in the game for a good laugh.
Love these convos. Usually agree more with Justin but I appreciate Jude just as much. You two are really entertaining. One thing I'd ask Jude is if he really expects Kendrick's last 4 projects to not stand the test of time. For example, I can confidently say that To Pimp a Butterfly will go down as the greatest album of the 2010's, as well as one of the best of all time. It's changed music a mere three years after its release, and has inspired/influenced people outside of the hip hop community from David Bowie to Kasmani Washington. I really don't see us 20 years from now going "man, what were we thinking. That project wasn't that good".
Got to look at the greats Melly Mell,Kurtis Blow, Run DMC, Rakim, Fat Boys,Kane, MC Lyte, Latifah, Krs1, Kane, Doug E Fresh, Slick Rick, Method Man, Red man, Ice Cube, NWA, Queen Latifah, Salt N Peppa, Moe Dee, DOC , etc LL is the Michael Jordan of rap he pulled from everyone. Built Def Jam, Jams still being played on radio to this day. Took it global inspired jay z, pac, eminem etc made rap sexxy appeared vulnerable. Had the biggest gold chains . He is the blue print . I could go on !
Lil Wayne has everything. Great bars, great commercial success, never had a bad verse, he created mumble rap, doesn’t hesitate to get out of his comfort zone and sound like today’s rappers and still spit fire. I don’t think anyone can match Wayne.
Dude said hes unfamiliar with all of Kendrick's work then not 2 mins later says, "you can't say whose the greatest and not know all his shit." I know they're not talking Kendrick specifically but its kinda funny thats what started this convo
I don't think you could really have a GOAT, you never know, there may be some really, really underground rappers who are technically better than a Biggy or an Eminem. Lyrics wise, a suburban white kid will relate more with a rap about partying and smoking weed than a rap about shit going on in the hood and about the relation between for example black Americans and the police. So even lyrically you can't really say the one is better than the other. Hip hop doesn't even need to be political, it wasn't in the late 70s and early 80s atleast. Yeah, I think a track with some well thought political lyrics is better than one about fucking 'bitches' even though I can't really relate with it, but even that is pretty opinion based. For example, a lot of people label Eminem as the GOAT, but for me in my personal opinion he wouldn't stand a chance because I really just like people like Nas or Kendrick more in the overall picture, even when Eminem is amazing technically and lyrically.
I know top anything is subjective. But the reason why I love these type of discussions is because they drop some knowledge that maybe I would've never known about ( certain songs or artist) and there is nothing better than going back and listening to some of these awesome projects and automatically adding it to your playlist.
I generally base artists off of specific talents. There's no goat for me, just goats of certain categories. For example, Big Boi is my goat of flow, Andre 3000 for lyrical talent, Jay Z for class and relevance of culture, Eminem for rhyming, Nas for the perfect mix
@@demetrelontos1359 It's true honestly Nas has a balance of everything that makes an Emcee. He's completely all around and pretty much always puts out quality work.
@@shauncameron8390 & Kendrick! Drake's highkey a bum but tbf everyone's dips their toe in ghostwriters usually. It's like steroids in pro sports, dark secret that everyone's on
Canibus, AZ, R.A. The Rugged Man, Locksmith, Elzhi. Extreme top tier lyricism. I'll also throw in Loaded Lux if we're talking sheer lyrical ability. And that's just to name a few.
Everyone has their favorite "time" of the day. there is NO greatest time of the day. You can't say blue, yellow or green is the best color. It's all intertwined and part of eachother and can't co-excist without eachother.
Opinions on which album is best, or if the album is good, are relative, but Jude in no moment has actually heard the effin album. All his arguments are moot, cause he's just imagining what the album may or may not sound like.
Off topic, I love how they can argue, so to speak, more so proving their point, but still have respect for another’s opinions and actually try to understand each other without having their emotions getting the best of them. Phenomenal, this is how to influence different perspective.
This might be the best-discoursed hiphop conversation I've ever heard online. Yall taught me some shit even though I agree and disagree with you both on so many points.
Wayne? Lol he cant walk in Pac's shoes. They dont have murals of Wayne in slums in Africa nor have Armies named after him. Wayne doesnt have close to the global impact that Pac does. Even just listening to them talk you dont hear nothing from Wayne. Pac transcends hip hop, was an actor, activist, poet, revolutionary etc
my top 10, with a loose order, easy to switch around nas andre 3k jay-z pac scarface biggie rakim kendrick em MF DOOM if any of you think i'm missing anyone, tell me
Beethoven is the greatest rapper of all time if you wanna talk about influences, cause rap came from rock and roll, rock and roll came from soul, soul came from r&b, etc. etc. My point is just because someone influenced someone does not take away from their credentials, cause Scarface had his influences, like slick Rick and ice cube, and he took those influences and reshaped them, their essence is still there, but innovation did take place, sane thing goes for Kendrick Lamar. They only thing Kendrick is missing is a legacy/ school of rappers to come holding him as their influence, other than that, commercial success, critical acclaim, lyricism, emotional connection, he's got it all and he's got more accolades than your favourite rapper, 4 certified classics (including DAMN obviously), 1 of 4 rap albums to get a certificate from havard (Illmatic, miseducation of Lauryn Hill and the low end theory) Best streaming album of all time (DAMN) and two of the highest ever album, not just hip hop, in all context of music on Metacritic. 7 Grammy's with two projects, most Grammy nominations for a rapper. Kendrick has it all
if we're gonna talk about commercial success and numbers eminem is number one + the dude has an oscar and he did everything and a lot of styles through his whole career he began as a clown in hip hop and funny as fuck with insane lyrics and he managed to become one of the best lyricist to ever live and has insane rhyming skill and wordplays and he's still killing it ... he has it all . my point is just becuz kenrick is your favorite rapper doesn't mean he is the best . im not saying eminem is the best but each rapper has an influence and the difference is what makes it perfect . it would be boring if we all agree on one rapper you know ..
Where is Lupe in the GOAT talk? These fools sleeping on Tetsuo and Youth but, Lu did say "Bumped into Doom the greatest rappers collide Everybody dead but AZ the greatest rapper survived I'm not the greatest rapper... the greatest rappers' a lie Got the same points as Lux the greatest rappers a tie, Chris said Common, Common said Kweli, Talib said I'm sure it's Mos Definitely"
I think Kool Keith is extremely underrated. Sure, his discography is not all A+ material, but he also has like ~20 albums over FOUR decades. Always bringing interesting new concepts, the different personas, pioneered the horrorcore/sci-fi raps, not to mention being part of Ultramagnetic MCs. He can spit in several different styles, and is definitely not afraid to go completely left field which brings a lot of influence .
Eminem is the goat, like seriously most records sold by almost double to any other rapper. Best lyricist by far he reads the dictionary for fun. Introduced many crazy new styles. Has been creating rap constantly since 88. All his music is catchy as fuck. He can freestyle better than anyone past or present maybe even future. He has the speed, he can rap faster than tech n9ne. His fluent words and fluent flow is unparralel and he was the first white boy who made it big and got accepted by another race into their territory. MGK Mac miller etc all can't rap for shit in my opinion compared to em they are nothing but dust. So there you have it in every category Eminem is untouched so stop saying he's not the goat just cuz of his skin color idiots. Andre 3000 in 2nd.
This was so good I watched it twice 💯 Justin, you said at the end of this marvelous piece of hip hop dialogue, that you were still unsure of "The Breakdown" topic for tomorrow, April 29. After the recent events and conversations in hip hop, highlighted by pieces such as this discussion, I feel it would only be right to give us your "Breakdown" for the Tupac The GOAT conversation you teased on the end of your "Tupac-alikes" piece. Just a request from a fan of your work. Peace and love, brother ✊🏾
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These never ending debates over preference are always amusing cause someone will get mad at your top 5 cause it doesn't match their own lol
willemdee ikr. People need to understand that you can't have twenty people in your top five.
nobody 123 exactly man, top 5s are hard as fuck to make, I can't stand leaving out certain rappers but that's the challenge of it I guess
Yet people still take it as a moment to try and" educate" you on the culture because you left out their favourite backpack rapper from arizona or some shit.
People get fucking bloodthirsty over GOAT lists, that's why I only partake over comment sections, I dont wanna die for this shit 😂
willemdee exactly
SAMO KiiNG dude please. That best mc shit is opinion at best. At the most it's popular opinion. The reason people do that because they either conform or they are frustrated someone does not share the same opinion. It's like that "Made you look" remix. It's easily arguable that Luda and Kiss washed Nas on that track, but since it's Nas, popular opinion is Nas did better. You can't say someone is better without another being discredited.
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Why everyone sleeps on Andre3000. Most creative . He's a real Artist .. great fashion sense. He's the best writer composter and rapper in my opinion. Outkast changed the south.. He started the fashion trends rappers now days . he's lyrically and musically gifted than most of the top 5. He's always consistent in delivery. wordsmith.
Tramaine didn't he cross dress?
Tramaine Andre is the true GOAT above all the things you mentioned he is also the best performer (when it comes to hip hop) till this day
Tramaine when Andre 3000 puts out another solo album excluding that Love Below bullshit and it's hot then you have an argument
does he even have a solo album?
he dresses like I chick trying to be a guy or a guy trying to be a chick. that's fashion if you're trans
Daniel McLaren I agree his fashion is straight up fruity. That bull shit agenda he has to play into. But as a lyricist he is great......however he needs a real solo album to validate how great he really is.
Also, thank you, Justin, for showing up for Lupe Fiasco, THE most underrated and undervalued rapper ever no shit!
Agreed!!
Yes sir
He never got the credit he deserved. 1 big reason is that Kanye overshadowed him. The lane Lupe was in during the 2000's Kanye was at the forefront, even though technically Lupe is a better skilled rapper. If the cool & food & liquor dropped today he would be more valued.
If The Cool, Food & Liquor and Food & Liquor II were released by Kendrick today they would be hailed as some of the best albums ever.
Malthe Rossel very true man. & kdot has a very similar cadence to Lupe when it comes to his approach on records with deeper/in depth meanings, & hidden messages.
Black thought is mad underated
This comment is on EVERY debate video and gets LOADS of appreciation... just saying
2020Ave facts. He def gets respect. 15 year old me 3 years thought he has underrated bc he is underrated in younger demographics.
@Matt Sak fair mate
He's not consistent
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Can we please stop sleeping on Big Boi?
I think it is so disrespectful how people are quick to mention Andre, but Big Boi has had plenty of individual success with Sir Lucious Left Foot, I would say that album will go down as a classic. Its so slept on and the experimentation of Vicious Lies and Dangerous Truths that was not as good as Sir Lucious, but to see Big Boi step out of his comfort zone working with Phantogram.
Big Boi is just not another rapper and I LOVE 3K, but please do not sleep on Big Boi.
i love jude and justin together there should be more collabs with him
thanks
"Ain't no best." - Nas
Nah there's a best
Nas is the best
@@hbkashhh3452 I disagree I think nas is overrated because of illmatic and ether
true but that doesn't mean there aren't various degrees of good and bad, i personally would characterize quality as whether it succeeds its artistic intention and how well those appeal to me (ie a feel good song that makes you feel good or a horror core song that makes you scared, or a political song that has good thoughtful messages ) how creativity it is and the influence those innovative decisions had on the medium as a whole, the difficulty of the craft (which is why i respect a lot of "lyrical miracle" rap despite it being a pretty saturated sub genre). 2 and 3 in particular are the most concerned with technically ability like rhyme and flow while for the most part all 3 is relevant to the lyrics themselves.
for example Kendrick Lamar's best albums hits each criteria the hardest, exceptionally innovative with extremely unique flows and production (especially in TPAB), compelling in its message, and technically proficient, and those are considered some of the best albums of all time. same with a lot of the other "goats" like Nas and big, both succeeded at what they were trying to do in each song compellingly, wrote their songs in a difficult way that required wit, and innovated the genre. even some sound cloud rappers occasionally meet some of these marks and honestly good for them (granted plenty don't, looking at you lil Xan).
@Mathematics em,jay,mf doom,all of the wu tang, outkast, etc
I love when Justin and Rude Jude have these convos.
Mos Def always get left outta the GOAT conversations. He's mosdefinetly Top5. No doubt.
Jeremy Butler these people don't know!!!!!!!
Jeremy Butler Blackstar Respiration with Common is voted as one the best hiphop written tracks of all time.
Love Mos but I'd say Black Thought and Pharoahe Monch deserve top 5 before Mos.
How is Mos Def is Top 5? He's a dope Emcee but I wouldn't put him Top 5 or even Top 20
his ability plus the impact of his music and all his music holds up and btw he killed every feature he was on .....
Mixtape weezy Lil wayne was unmatched because of his constancy and quality output. Not to mention his cultural relevance, he's arguably one of the most influential to do it. So many different dope flows, def my top 10 all time. Sad that ppl downplay his career when he unarguably ran hip hop for 4 years...
Sofonias Habtemariam Wayne GOAT!!
I agree
Nah wayne is super successful but I don't put wayne in top 10 maybe top 20
Lupe Fiasco. No other rappers are making concept albums like Tetsuo & Youth, intertwining social issues, spirituality, cartoons and video games seamlessly. You can put 'Mural' against any other rapper's best song. He makes conscious songs over trap beats. Not to mention the Michael Young History epic. He's great by any measure of a rapper, wordplay, flow, metaphors allusions, couplets etc...and DROGAS Wave is on the way. Just my two cents..thank you guys for making this video for the culture.
Emmanuel D. Mural is in the top 3 of my favourite song. 1 The Great Gig In The Sky: Pink Floyd 2 March to the Sea: Twenty one pilots 3 Mural: Lupe Fiasco
Does Jude really think in 10 years were gonna look back at TPAB and say "nah that albums stale now"? or even GKMC?
Billy, From the Produce Section well from those albums he's probably only heard M.A.A.D city, poetic justice,alright,and king kunta. as he's said he hasn't actually listened to most of his catalog
Mel Sotelo He said last video he listened to TPAB. But you're probably right about GKMC.
Billy, From the Produce Section He never heard the albums in their entirety. So he wouldn't know.
Billy, From the Produce Section that dude didn't even hear them, he also says he doesn't listen to hip hop anymore. This guy's opinion on this means shit.
Billy, From the Produce Section yes. In the same way 2Pacolypse is stale. No comparing Pac to Kendrick because Pac is on another level but without a doubt Kendrick will bring out some better shit than gkmc. It's the same way as looking at eminems albums the Slim Shady LP is stale and not as good because of the MMLP. It goes for every rapper with a buzz don't think kendricks an exception because your basically saying he won't make anything better
I love these dudes and really dig their banter/chemistry. Justin Hunte I appreciate what you doing, keep it up bruh
My top 10: Pac, Biggie, Rakim, Big Pun, Eminem, Kanye, Jay Z, Kane, Nas and Wu-Tang
I'd listen to this as a Spotify podcast. Thoughts?
MIkkoBaffo Jude use to have a podcast but contractually with Siriusxm he can't do podcasts
MIkkoBaffo since when does Spotify have Podcasts?
MIkkoBaffo FUCKING AGREED
Immortal Vegan In the UK if you pay 9.99 a month you have access to podcasts.
EddyNaVa76 is that so? That's a shame
There is a reason everyone gets compared to Pac. He seems to tick every box, other rappers do certain things better but he is too hard to ignore.
PreparedDeath how does he tick all boxes? I like Pac but bars wise he's lacking. He says nothing amazing. Good beats but that's the producers and sound engineers. Not even the most original in flow nor subject matter. He s a good rapper. If He s your favorite dope but that doesn't make him the goat
taaj howell Brenda's Got A Baby, California Love, To Live And Die In LA, Runnin, 2 Of Americaz Most Wanted, All Eyez On Me, Ambitionz Az A Ridah, Ghetto Gospel, Dear Mama, I Get Around, Keep Ya Head Up, Only God Can Judge Me, Hit Em Up, How Do U Want It, Hail Mary, Me Against The World, and hundreds and hundreds more. Yeah forget that he ain't talented
taaj howell I agree
Fuck tupac
taaj howell i always find it funny when people says yes he has good beats but its the producer and sound engineers work ... Of course but who fucking choosed the beat man ??? Eminem whad the best producer in the world but most of his beats are wack, beats selection are one of the quality of a rapper. Drake, Lil wayne and kendrick are very good for that that's why their music almost always sound good to the ears, choosing a beat that will fit you well is a skill
FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONED ROYCE DA 59
Andrea Cusanno right. too bad he doesn't want the success. well, to me he doesn't.
Royce da Bomb
Andrea Cusanno yeah seriously he is pretty fucking good
Yeah, he's one of the only people who can do better than Eminem on a song
@Andrea Cusanno 3 years ago... You wait for his 2018 and 2020 releases!! 🔥🔥
GOAT rappers people never mention: Big L.
Doom Santana he died so young
Doom Santana Big L could have definitely become the GOAT, or at least one of the GOATs, had he not died so young.
Doom Santana doesn't have a catalog
Big L - 2 classic albums, not in the conversation
Biggie - 2 classic albums, in the conversation...okay
Elrond Hubbard exactly!!
Wassup hiphopdx I'd rather you debate with a dude that's not so bias to music he obviously doesn't listen to .. Kendrick Lamar is arguably one of the greatest period , I noticed he never said anything when you brought up Wayne .. how could you not recognize Wayne skills,, innovation, impact on hip-hop , even Scarface who he was dickriding so much said Wayne is one of the greatest of all time ... Use that quote in the next show ... please debate with someone more like yourself .Who's more objective and introspective
Lupe fiasco's hip hop saved my life was a great 3rd party song... words I've never said was so socially great... but 2pac was so great and makes you feel something great every time.
1. Eminem
2. Biggie
3. Pac
4. Pun
5. Weezy
GOAT list for me:
1. Pac
2. Eminem
3. Nas
4. Biggie
5. Kendrick Lamar
6. André 3000
7. DMX
8. Jay Z
9. GZA
10. MF DOOM
ODG I agree with this list
bleachlover 2000 3 stacks the goat bro
Loool, GZA, MF DOOM 😂 Nobody listen that shit man cmon ... You cant put underground rapper on a GOAT list, they dont have influence, they dont have cultural relevance .. If they are not famous is because they arent good, period. They can be amazing lyricist but rap is not only that but also flow, voices, delivery, charisma, energy, beat selection !!!
Were is Wayne ? Were is Kanye ? Were is Drake ? Were is fucking snoop dogg ? Biggie had 2fucking album in his career how can you put him ahead of Jay-z when he has 14number 1album and 22grammy ??? When he has 3classic and 6others very good albums ???? And lil wayne is the most influencial, original, creative and productive rapper ever, like it or not its a fact so if he isnt in your top 10 you are biased.
here is mine
1.kendrick
2.biggie
3. mf doom
4. Jay z
5. Black thought
6. Rakim
7. Eminem
8.pac
9. Andre
10. Nas
HipHopDX is a blessing to the hip hop community. They provoke great conversation.
"Latest is greatest" is a cancerous mentality in hip hop. Smh. We're the only music genre where our "greatest" changes every 5 years. I can't stand that shit.
THE TOP TEN HAS TO BE:
1)2Pac (he had TOTAL control and mastery of the people)
2)A Tribe Called Quest (a group but hip hop nevertheless)
3)Scarface
4)Biggie
5)Rakim
6)MF DOOM and all his other aliases
7)Kendrick Lamar (this is because his lyrics are poetry in motion)
8)Ice Cube (wrote a lot of albums, songs and is a fucking genius in general- also has the BEST dis track in the WORLD)
9)Nas
10)Aesop Rock (personal favorite of mine)
THE BEST YOUNG RAPPER OF ALL TIME (not hip hop, but rap in general)
DIZZEE RASCAL
*drops mic*
Pac, Kendrick, Jay-z, Lil Wayne, Nas
Fernando Harris I'd have to give it up to this list
Fernando Harris Lil Wayne GOAT!!
Lil wayne😭
Hater
Get Pac out and we straight
"I can" on Gods son is one of the best rap songs of all time
at 25 pac had the whole country ready for war. nobody in the history of rap made you feel the way pac did. pac is goat period
Andre better
Think that's debateable but okay.
Joel Clark Andre is better than Pac imo
@@ItsValWow No I do too I was just replying to the first guy. Andre better easily, Pacs influence was massive but he has a mediocre discog. All Eyez On Me is the most overrated Classic OAT
Joel Clark FAX! Pac still a legend thi
you know you're old when you refer to people as "cats"
2pac. Andre 3k... two of the greatest if all times!
At the end of the day, who is "THE GOAT" is all subjective, it really doesn't matter who is considered the greatest and who isn't
Leo this is the most ignorant comment I've ever read about hip hop
thedondon911911 Explain to me what was ignorant about what I said?
thedondon911911 Yes...Do explain how what he said is ignorant....Cuz my G.O.A.T is Biggie
Bernard Gilkes Mine is Biggie too...
biggie is mine too. Then Nas...Then ghostface.
Watching the end of this makes me think you should do a Breakdown piece about overshadowed greats, those that are collaborative and/or in groups. Big Boi is an example of a group and Royce is an example because of early AND recent collaboration with Eminem. The mention of Black Thought was also interesting.
I am glad you are breaking this down and am happy to spend the hour with you doing it.
That point about the old heads at the start is so good.
People who are underrated in the GOAT convo, Lupe, DOOM, Andre, Big L, Big Pun, Kool G Rap, Chuck D, Black Thought, Canibus and Scarface.
Obviously the more common ones, Nas, Big, Pac, Em, Rakim, Kendrick, Jay Z are very good too.
I went to the hat store and got a new hat.
Donald Glover lol
sillypenta Donald glover!
"I went to the hat store today and I bought myself a hat, ahaha!"
fire
13:49 hahahaha
"IS THERE A HEAVEN FOR A BALLER"?- Tu Pac (Only Fear of Death) one of the coolest phares ever in rap
only half way through, but I have to agree with Jude. Without knowledge of the entirety of hip hop, you cannot even be in a conversation discussing the GOAT. Some criminally underrated emcees (not GOAT status) are AZ, Rah Digga, Phonte, and Left Eye, yes Left Eye, go back and listen to Left Eye flow and then listen to pop Nicki Minaj, or Natina from Blaque. If you can't make educated comparisons you have no business even casting a vote in who the GOAT is. Great show so far. Can't wait to watch the rest!
Jimmi Pynk And now Gates is so damn close.
I think both guys bring up great points.
My ways of classifying someone a goat is from:
1. Influence
2. Critical Acclaim
3. Consistent Prime
4. Relevance
5. Commercial Success
These discussions are some of my favorite videos on youtube. Thanks Justin and Jude for being the two of the only cats around willing just see what the other one thinks about hip hop. RESPECK!
Jay Z- for the success
Eminem/Lil Wayne- for the worldplay
Lupe- for the intelligence
Tupac- enough said
Twista/Biggie- for the flow
Outcast/Bone/Wu Tang- best groups
Kanye- great production
Darkeith Lofton lil wayne ? who shit in ur brain? (freestyle for scale)
Radagast The Brown lil Wayne The GOAT bitch!!
Jay z is the goat
@@radagastthebrown5025 wayne is the goat
eminem and wayne's wordplay arent anything special
I think it's almost impossible to determine the best rapper of all time...u can't do it without discrediting other rappers, is it Pac??What about the other cats from the 90's illmatic, ready to die don't count?What about LL cool J,Slick Rick, KRS or Rakeem(80s rappers) who came way before Pac(or any other 90s rapper)
What about Eminem,3k,MF or even Kendrick(99-10s rappers)
HipHop changes and evolves. sounds different every decade.
How do we determine this,skill or Discography?
iMoose you simply can't crown a hip-hop artist as the greatest. impossible. it's not like pop or reggae, where you can easily say Michael Jackson & Bob Marley are the goats.
Tropical99 Oh. I wasn't aware one specific genre isn't quantifiable where the rest are.
Tropical99 yeah that's what I said
iMoose it's about having common sense and not being biased
Everyone is biased about music. It is purely bias. haha
We are talking a time, when gangsta rap had emerged with the rise of N.W.A and Suge Knight’s Death Row. In a time when men were judged by what size gun they were carrying, Tupac was a man whom everyone respected despite his emotional bent of mind. He was the leader that Eminem could not be.
at 23:28 I was like "ROLL THE FUCKING CLIP, JAMES!" hahahaha
Dope channel..finally true hip hop heads from a perspective outside of NY ✊🏾 Keep it up 💯
My Top 5: 1- Lil Wayne, 2- 2Pac, 3- J.Cole, 4- Eminem, 5- B.I.G.
Eminem is like Jordan when he went to the Washington Wizards. too many lackluster performances done fucked his stats up and left it open for someone else to be considered the GOAT
Jimmi Pynk 🤔🤔🤔 are you stupid or should I appreciate your wrong opinion. 🤔🤔🤔 joking thanks for telling us what you where thinking.
learn to spell before you come for me darling, it's were not where.
Jimmi Pynk he came back and claimed the title without claiming it but honestly redman is the shit
Jordan Robinson " Wrong opinion" you just lost all credibility
Controversial Radio I couldn't give two shit's.
The Source pissed me off when they gave '93 'Til Infinity 3 1/2 mics. That shit was an instant classic in my eyes.
this is better than everyday struggle , love how they let each other speak and acknowledge without interrupting
I really look forward to these types of debates.you all respect each other and disagree... what a fucking concept now a days. Keep these coming. Respect
Personal preference in no order
Nas, HOV, 3 stacks, K Dot, Biggie, Tupac, and Wayne. Could say any of these on any given day
NewNinetys Tha Carter 2, 3 and 4 not to mention any of his mixtapes. And this is from a guy who also had countless memorable features. Biggie had two of the best albums in rap at that time. As far as straight spitting no one did it better. I don't think he is the GOAT but the way he was able to impact society in such a short amount of time gives him more than a reason to be in the top 5
What do you think about Big Pun?
NewNinetys lol Wayne is The Greatest..
@@desolatesouls3040 'scuse me for blunt but i been eating cunt since pimps was pushin pink caddies wit the fishtank pumps
These kids dumb as fuck. Drake an entertainer, not a rapper. Wayne ain't close to top 20. Pac a poet, and no disrespect, but no top 5. Check the fucking Big ghost chronicles softest in the game for a good laugh.
@@4neumann wayne the goat, Drake one if the goats
Love the dynamic but you can't argue with a guy that "no longer listens to rap".
Rakim is the 'G.O.A.T.' PERIOD!
Nah only 2 ablums
Love these convos. Usually agree more with Justin but I appreciate Jude just as much. You two are really entertaining. One thing I'd ask Jude is if he really expects Kendrick's last 4 projects to not stand the test of time. For example, I can confidently say that To Pimp a Butterfly will go down as the greatest album of the 2010's, as well as one of the best of all time. It's changed music a mere three years after its release, and has inspired/influenced people outside of the hip hop community from David Bowie to Kasmani Washington. I really don't see us 20 years from now going "man, what were we thinking. That project wasn't that good".
Got to look at the greats Melly Mell,Kurtis Blow, Run DMC, Rakim, Fat Boys,Kane, MC Lyte, Latifah, Krs1, Kane, Doug E Fresh, Slick Rick, Method Man, Red man, Ice Cube, NWA, Queen Latifah, Salt N Peppa, Moe Dee, DOC , etc
LL is the Michael Jordan of rap he pulled from everyone. Built Def Jam, Jams still being played on radio to this day. Took it global inspired jay z, pac, eminem etc made rap sexxy appeared vulnerable. Had the biggest gold chains . He is the blue print . I could go on !
Ice Cube was the first rapper to release albums in consecutive years.
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@@terrenceperkins5282 I guess you didn't watch the video.
thats not even true though rakim and big daddy kane did that before cube
"Drakes the most overrated rapper" You just earned a subscription and a like my friend.
PAC is always #1
I'm flattered
Tupac Shakur Dude plz
I wish you could haha react RUclips comments
I strongly disagree.
@@tupacshakur3745 never
Lil Wayne has everything. Great bars, great commercial success, never had a bad verse, he created mumble rap, doesn’t hesitate to get out of his comfort zone and sound like today’s rappers and still spit fire. I don’t think anyone can match Wayne.
This is the most influential discussion on Hip Hop and Rap that I have ever watched. Hands down.
Dude said hes unfamiliar with all of Kendrick's work then not 2 mins later says, "you can't say whose the greatest and not know all his shit." I know they're not talking Kendrick specifically but its kinda funny thats what started this convo
Pimp C also sang his ass off on them hooks too boi!!!
There's no GOAT. It's almost impossible to have an actual GOAT.
Hugo Hakvoort yes there is a goat, you're just too lazy to argue
I don't think you could really have a GOAT, you never know, there may be some really, really underground rappers who are technically better than a Biggy or an Eminem. Lyrics wise, a suburban white kid will relate more with a rap about partying and smoking weed than a rap about shit going on in the hood and about the relation between for example black Americans and the police. So even lyrically you can't really say the one is better than the other. Hip hop doesn't even need to be political, it wasn't in the late 70s and early 80s atleast. Yeah, I think a track with some well thought political lyrics is better than one about fucking 'bitches' even though I can't really relate with it, but even that is pretty opinion based.
For example, a lot of people label Eminem as the GOAT, but for me in my personal opinion he wouldn't stand a chance because I really just like people like Nas or Kendrick more in the overall picture, even when Eminem is amazing technically and lyrically.
I agree more or less. Everyone has their own strengths, it's really hard to compare artists.
Tupac Shakur it’s all opinion at the end of the day you jus have to state ur case for who u like. No right or wrong answer
Lionel Messi
Great conversation!
I know top anything is subjective. But the reason why I love these type of discussions is because they drop some knowledge that maybe I would've never known about ( certain songs or artist) and there is nothing better than going back and listening to some of these awesome projects and automatically adding it to your playlist.
2pac
Top 10
1.) Nas
2.) 2pac
3.) Eminem
4.) Kendrick Lamar
5.) Lil Wayne
6.) Kanye
7.) Biggie
8.) Ice Cube
9.) Jay Z
10.) J Cole
Wayne higher
I generally base artists off of specific talents. There's no goat for me, just goats of certain categories. For example, Big Boi is my goat of flow, Andre 3000 for lyrical talent, Jay Z for class and relevance of culture, Eminem for rhyming, Nas for the perfect mix
Doesn’t saying nas has the perfect mix basically just mean he’s the best of them all
@@demetrelontos1359 It's true honestly Nas has a balance of everything that makes an Emcee. He's completely all around and pretty much always puts out quality work.
thank you!! for shouting out Lupe another greats you forgot to mention is gangstarr and big L. Pun and his crazy lyrics
I could listen to Justin's conversations all day
De La Soul needs to digitize their catalogue, no one owns cd players anymore. They're missing out on a lot record sales.
Whoever has a ghost writer
They can't be the GOAT
TALKING ABOUT DRAKE
Yet you'll hypocritically claim Kanye as one.
@@shauncameron8390 & Kendrick! Drake's highkey a bum but tbf everyone's dips their toe in ghostwriters usually. It's like steroids in pro sports, dark secret that everyone's on
Thay goes for Kanye can't be in no conversation either
Wayne had 80 features in one year and took over a solid 4 yrs who else can do dat 🤔🤔
David E he da 🐐
2Coo 2kJunky HHQHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
David E wtf Wayne ruled for more than 4years
93-96 Pac >
No mixtape shit either..
6-7 years at least
Canibus, AZ, R.A. The Rugged Man, Locksmith, Elzhi. Extreme top tier lyricism. I'll also throw in Loaded Lux if we're talking sheer lyrical ability. And that's just to name a few.
Articulation, wittiness, cadence, motivation, wordplay, record making, and creativity does "The G.O.A.T" make.
Pac
Scarface is highly under appreciated.
1. Eminem2. Nas3. PAC4. Biggie 5. Rakim6. Jay Z7. Kendrick8. Kanye west9. Dmx10. Dr dre
The Notorious Makaveli Dre? As a producer of course, as a rapper (over Cube, Quik, Kurupt, etc...) never
Dre is not a rapper
Kanye does write shit
Lil wayne the goat
Everyone has their favorite "time" of the day. there is NO greatest time of the day. You can't say blue, yellow or green is the best color. It's all intertwined and part of eachother and can't co-excist without eachother.
That first caller hits it BANG on. "You are not the greatest if we can tell the story of Hip Hop without you"
I thought I'd listen to this for a minute. Ended up watching the whole thing. GREAT points guys.
pac had 5 albums at his death 3 out of 5 being classics and the other albums still had classic material I love pac
Four classics
Bmore24 t 5 classics,if you really really listen, Pac dropped jewels in every line
2 classics
true
2? no he had 3
I think this whole conversation would flow much better if Jude sat down a sec to listen to DAMN.
dio-03 GKMC* kendricks best hip hop album
dio-03 exactly !!!😔
Opinions on which album is best, or if the album is good, are relative, but Jude in no moment has actually heard the effin album. All his arguments are moot, cause he's just imagining what the album may or may not sound like.
DAMN is K-dots worst album
Big Willie Style is a solid project still.
Off topic, I love how they can argue, so to speak, more so proving their point, but still have respect for another’s opinions and actually try to understand each other without having their emotions getting the best of them. Phenomenal, this is how to influence different perspective.
This might be the best-discoursed hiphop conversation I've ever heard online. Yall taught me some shit even though I agree and disagree with you both on so many points.
2Pac has to be the GOAT.
If 2Pac isn't the Greatest rapper, he is the most influential rapper
Yeah its Pac no doubt
Jay Murthy PAC after Wayne!!!
Wayne? Lol he cant walk in Pac's shoes. They dont have murals of Wayne in slums in Africa nor have Armies named after him. Wayne doesnt have close to the global impact that Pac does. Even just listening to them talk you dont hear nothing from Wayne. Pac transcends hip hop, was an actor, activist, poet, revolutionary etc
Jay Murthy yea because Wayne is not dead you fucking stupid ass goddammm why you so average bro??!!
my top 10, with a loose order, easy to switch around
nas
andre 3k
jay-z
pac
scarface
biggie
rakim
kendrick
em
MF DOOM
if any of you think i'm missing anyone, tell me
Matt Traverso Aesop
I mostly agree
DJ quik,
big l, big pun, wu tang, redman all better than biggie and scarface imo but it's all preference
Arsenal K he's tries to be corny on purpose he does it so people like you say shit like that.
it's what makes his career 😂
Pac
Big
Em
Nas
Rakim
jay z
50 cent
Lil Wayne
Big L
Kendrick
I respect your list!
Great conversations overall
Impeccable interview🔥
Beethoven is the greatest rapper of all time if you wanna talk about influences, cause rap came from rock and roll, rock and roll came from soul, soul came from r&b, etc. etc.
My point is just because someone influenced someone does not take away from their credentials, cause Scarface had his influences, like slick Rick and ice cube, and he took those influences and reshaped them, their essence is still there, but innovation did take place, sane thing goes for Kendrick Lamar. They only thing Kendrick is missing is a legacy/ school of rappers to come holding him as their influence, other than that, commercial success, critical acclaim, lyricism, emotional connection, he's got it all and he's got more accolades than your favourite rapper, 4 certified classics (including DAMN obviously), 1 of 4 rap albums to get a certificate from havard (Illmatic, miseducation of Lauryn Hill and the low end theory) Best streaming album of all time (DAMN) and two of the highest ever album, not just hip hop, in all context of music on Metacritic. 7 Grammy's with two projects, most Grammy nominations for a rapper. Kendrick has it all
He killed Justin Bieber on Epic Rap Battles Of History
if we're gonna talk about commercial success and numbers eminem is number one + the dude has an oscar and he did everything and a lot of styles through his whole career he began as a clown in hip hop and funny as fuck with insane lyrics and he managed to become one of the best lyricist to ever live and has insane rhyming skill and wordplays and he's still killing it ... he has it all . my point is just becuz kenrick is your favorite rapper doesn't mean he is the best . im not saying eminem is the best but each rapper has an influence and the difference is what makes it perfect . it would be boring if we all agree on one rapper you know ..
MY TOP 6 with Jay z, Pac, Weez, Andre 300, Em, Drake
Wayne up there
Where is Lupe in the GOAT talk? These fools sleeping on Tetsuo and Youth but, Lu did say "Bumped into Doom the greatest rappers collide
Everybody dead but AZ the greatest rapper survived
I'm not the greatest rapper... the greatest rappers' a lie
Got the same points as Lux the greatest rappers a tie,
Chris said Common, Common said Kweli, Talib said I'm sure it's Mos Definitely"
1. 2Pac
2. Nas
3. Eminem
4. Jay-Z
5.Lil Wayne
6. Kanye West
7. Andre 3000
8. Rakim
9. Kendrick Lamar
10. Ice cube
Top 10 in my opinion
Lil Wayne higher
I think Kool Keith is extremely underrated. Sure, his discography is not all A+ material, but he also has like ~20 albums over FOUR decades. Always bringing interesting new concepts, the different personas, pioneered the horrorcore/sci-fi raps, not to mention being part of Ultramagnetic MCs. He can spit in several different styles, and is definitely not afraid to go completely left field which brings a lot of influence .
Eminem is the goat, like seriously most records sold by almost double to any other rapper. Best lyricist by far he reads the dictionary for fun. Introduced many crazy new styles. Has been creating rap constantly since 88. All his music is catchy as fuck. He can freestyle better than anyone past or present maybe even future. He has the speed, he can rap faster than tech n9ne. His fluent words and fluent flow is unparralel and he was the first white boy who made it big and got accepted by another race into their territory. MGK Mac miller etc all can't rap for shit in my opinion compared to em they are nothing but dust. So there you have it in every category Eminem is untouched so stop saying he's not the goat just cuz of his skin color idiots. Andre 3000 in 2nd.
If you didn't know Lil Wayne was the G.O.A.T, now ya do.
Royce killed eminem on his own shit several times , Royce deserves a hat in the ring
Alexander Eastwood yeah, bad meets evil was why I like him more.. he's very good.
Royce will never escape Em's Shadow
Hard for Royce cos he can’t get out of ems shadow
Detox 2 it was always equal
Perfectly balanced they both snapped
Versatility, consistency, and impact are the biggest categories
This was so good I watched it twice 💯 Justin, you said at the end of this marvelous piece of hip hop dialogue, that you were still unsure of "The Breakdown" topic for tomorrow, April 29. After the recent events and conversations in hip hop, highlighted by pieces such as this discussion, I feel it would only be right to give us your "Breakdown" for the Tupac The GOAT conversation you teased on the end of your "Tupac-alikes" piece. Just a request from a fan of your work. Peace and love, brother ✊🏾