Honestly Nevermind is a bad albun. Since views he's been droppiing average projects till CLB, but HM is a badly executed album. Poor vocals and 90% of the songs were underwritten. You might've liked it, but is trash. It's okay to like trash
@@jueezzzz i agree on care package,honestly never mind. But scorpion and clb ? I don’t thing so. Scorpion half first album it’s great and half other is shit so In a scale is a 5 out of 10. Same with clb. So ass means like a 2 or 1 out of 10
im not even a huge drake fan like that but he hasnt made BAD albums, he's made classics, he's made good albums, he's made average albums. none of his albums are unlistenable to the ears. they might be mid but not BAD.
I’m sooo happy to see people the really appreciate Nas’ discography. I think Illmatic overshadows the rest of his albums and people don’t give him enough credit for the rest of his music
“Drake has never had a bad album” *spits water, drops glass, falls down stairs, buildings falls over, lightning hits me, dogs tears my limbs apart, I land* WHAT YOU SMOKING
Drake has made 3 great albums, and that's about it (Take Care, Nothing was the Same, and IYRTITL). Scorpion is okay overall. The first half is pretty good, however; the back half of the album is bloated and underwhelming. CLB is about a 3/10, and Honestly Nevermind should be called Jimmy Cooks: the Album, because that's the only good song on the album.
@@Young_Brumm15I went through his entire catalogue and the only album that I feel could be considered bad is for all the dogs which wasn’t released at the time
@@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome not on release but It got slightly better over time. Don’t get me wrong, his worst songs do come from that album (although i think there’s worse on FATD) but many songs have gotten better (fair trade, champagne poetry, knife talk, 7am, fountains, no friends in the industry, etc)
I love the how you 2 express your opinions. 2 articulate Hip hop heads subjectively discussing the art form. Love it! You earned a new subscriber. Cheers.
I liked all of tylers stuff but I get why other people don't. Also if we're rating an entire discography I would put alot of these guys lower becuz early mixtapes sucked. Aka kendrick
A Tribe Called Quest singlehandedly created the lo-fi hip-hop genre that is still popular today. It's pretty incredible to see the trajectory of influence that they had when they made albums. They definitely had a perfect run as far their discography goes.
Not to rip on ATCQ (They are GOAT tier), but they didn't create the lofi genre. ATCQ is more Jazz rap type stuff, and they were pioneers in that genre along side De La Soul, The Roots, and Digable Planets. They also directly influenced the groups and people that eventually pioneered Lo-Fi, such as Nujabes
Mmlp2 is fire, honestly my favourite post hiatus Eminem album, the lyricism on that album is top tier and I think it does a good job at being a sequel to mmlp
The delivery in Legacy/Beautiful Pain, lyricism in Bad Guy/Evil Twin, emotions in Headlights. Survival, Rap God, The Monster are phenomenal. Then his rap-rock songs that go crazy like Berzerk, Wicked Ways, Asshole. Don't Front is SUCH a hidden gem as well, MMLP2 is 🔥
@@quablo8962 fair enough, but to me I can only see stronger than I was being considered as a terrible song (although I personally like it, the least out of all mmlp2 songs but if nothing at least the lyrics of it are phenomenal) and on deluxe desperation (I also don't enjoy it as much as other songs and the lyrics are not the best but it's still not terrible to me). About the rest I think all songs have a good point and a reason why they exist and why they are put on the album titled "The Marshall Mathers LP2", you could argue about maybe so much better or love game, but I think they do serve a purpose at showing how his hatred for bitches is still the same as it was during mmlp, plus I enjoy so much of both songs. The song I don't enjoy as much is asshole, but it has amazing lyrics so to me it's also not a bad song.
I’m a cudi fan, but I’d throw him in good. Man on the Moon 1&2 are certified classics for both Cudi and the genre, but he hasn’t had that momentum since. Even though I enjoyed Man on the Moon 3, and even some earlier projects, it didn’t have the impact both the first two projects did. Still, Cudi to me is a legend.
I feel like you guys focus more on popularity and impact with these vids more than what you actually like more, like you literally said that Denzel not being super popular hurt his case. I still like when you guys do this stuff I just wish you would focus less on the objective aspects and more on just what you like. Nevertheless, keep up the good work and I still love you're content❤
Pink Friday is a class in terms of female rap. It's really easy to say it's not when you stack her up against her contemporaries but at the same time just like we don't mix in trap and traditional , conscious , or experimental rap , it is not fair to do the same to her. Without Pink Friday half of the female rap population would simply cease to exist , I know most times this is credited to Lil Kim with albums such as Hardcore but as far as modern rap and especially modern female rap , I don't know if there is a album more important to the landscape. Nicki was ruling that scene for a hot minute and miraculously still is whether through her directly or the branches off her tree of influence. In fact I guarantee if that same question was asked to people such as Doja Cat , Megan Thee Stallion , City Girls , and countless others they would say the same. For better or for worse depending on how you view female rap , Pink Friday changed the scene for female rap and modern pop music in general I believe.
Not a Nicki fan but i agree with your comment, she def pave the way to the new gen of the likes of Doja and Cardi (the first time i hear Bodak Yellow i though it was Nicki), my favorite song from her is Champion, really like the conscious rap of the song
Vince Staples didn’t make the cut? He’s easily had one of the best artistic developments with “Vince Staples” and “Romana Park Broke my Heart” both being exceptional albums with great production and his utilization of said production is fantastic. Definitely upset to not see it mentioned here
Earl staying in good is a crazy hot take besides being one of the best lyricists of our generation, he's also undeniably one of the most important artists when it comes to showing off vulnerability and losing your grip from time to time. Of course that doesnt mean that the more depressed you are, the better you are as a musician LMFAO but rather that in its own definition, he DOES have a classic, if not multiple. Some rap songs will go down in history as one of the best albums ever in my eyes
Yeah can't believe he's that low... sure he has earl and sure feet of clay is an acquired taste but all his studio albums meet a pretty damn high standard
16:50 the thing is he doesn't drop as much albums as other artists do so he hasn't been able to show his discog off as much but every project is definitely quality. His quality so good he already has a major influence.
They gave it a Great because he has the chance to slip up. If they are going to use that logic for Travis then it should be applied to BIG (which I personally think is a dumb argument). Travis has a near perfect run for me. Definitely better than drakes and ems because it has no flat out fails.
Ghostface: Great Wu Tang: Good (If you include all the group member's solo albums then it's amazing) Mobb Deep: Great (2 Classics, but the rest were meh)
@@Maxipadtriplesix 2 classics and 1 strong album. So yeah pretty good but I wish they could’ve done more because they had so much potential to be one of the most consistent rap groups ever. Should include The Roots should be included and they are one of the most consistent rap groups ever.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring I agree, when I was a teenager, I was obsessed with Wu Tang. If you asked me then, I would have said perfect. But now, with perspective, there was a clear drop off in quality after Wu Tang Forever, and even worse drop off with 8 Diagrams. I think you could make the case that Tical through Ironman were all group albums since RZA was still the only producer and almost all of the features were Wu Tang.
For Logic, Welcome to Forever was the first mixtape that FELT like an album to me... absolutely incredible. Not sure if he ever outdid that on his albums
Lol. Fantano would tear them apart. They are incredibly inconsistent and lean too heavily on what’s popular. Their opinions are never super original or shocking. They would simply agree with most of what he says. And if they disagree then he’d rip them apart. Melon is the almighty savior of music critics.
@@Hdingdong opinions always shouldn’t be shocking lmao, sometime everyone are right and agree with a common thing, like when pimp a butterfly dropped did anyone say that was a bad album, NO cause it isn’t. There are lotta opinions that they have that is different too like they don’t take care was drakes best album, and so on, it’s not always a bad thing to be a bandwagon
@@workt42 On God lol. I don't think even Fantano would want his fans to act like every opinion he gives is a gospel and superior to all other musical opinions. I'm starting to see why his fans are usually clowned on judging by replies like that
@@thebohr11 Agree with you about Pac and biggie. Kanye?? Nah bro. Kanye is arguably the best album maker ever in rap history but he definitely doesn't have a perfect discography.
@@Elightenment 4:44 highlights and focus songs are truly great, but i feel as a whole the record doesn’t get play like that, especially when compared to the heavy hitter classic lps
gettin tired of people saying yachty has a bad discography whenever the last album they listened to from him was lil boat 2 or teenage emotions. nuthin 2 prove, lil boat 3, and michigan boy boat have changed the way his fans listen to him.
Mac I think personally should’ve made perfect. He changed a lot and he seamlessly did it not missing on a album. But glad to see he didn’t drop under amazing
@@trtorbelfort in terms of writing he’s really the greatest Kendrick Lamar quotes Jay Z at least once on every single one of his albums man has ghost wrote for some of the best in the game,
@@leespn4396 even on that front damn near half of his albums are classic Reasonable doubt volume one the blueprint the black album 444 the blueprint three
I'll admit Music to be Murdered by has 4ish skippable songs that I never go back to, but there are incredible tracks on this album. The only albums keeping Em's discography from being perfect IMO are revival, half of MMLP 2, and about a quarter of Encore. Even with the misses, it's still an Amazing catalog in my humble opinion.
Drake, Eminem, travis and Tyler are all amazing. They may have some misses but the highs are just as high or higher than Cole, Mac and especially carti
Yeah but drake has too many misses and Em yeah 1 or 2 misses out of 10 is ok but more than that isn't I also think ye should have been a tier lower because he has like 4 misses imo
@@MrASAPAB that's arguably but in my opinion En only misses are Revival, Encore,Relapse, and MMLP 2 other than that everything else imo are good or great.
What you said about biggie, Eminem did it in a 3 album run as well. Completely changed the entire industry to this day. I think these days people really don’t realize how crazy Eminem coming on the scene really was.
@@tqmper7153 having yachty below jack harlow on this kind of list should be a crime. His discography is at least mid, even if you dont like him. I would have him at good because he has extremely high highs but also lows for me in his discography
I always thought if Eminem retired after Relapse he would of had a solid top tier discographies. I started to lose interest after he completely switched up during the recovery era and onwards
@@djmeagaaim17it's not about having a perfect discography dude. I don't think Emjnem really cares about it. Think if he had retired after the TES we would have missed so many gems from him. So i think he's decided to do his work for the culture as much as he can.
@@djmeagaaim17 But the majority is still enjoying him. So i think he should do his work for some years from now. Even jay-z who's older than him hasn't retired 😅
Great video. Your main problem is that you have “perfect” as the top tier. That word indicates flawless, but a flawed discography can be better than a flawed discography
Agreed, when I think of perfect discography I think of every album released is a 10/10 and I don’t think a single artist in their perfect tier qualifies for that except maybe Biggie, but that’s cheating when he only released two albums.
Great video, guys keep it up. I respectfully disagree with your Jay Z and Em takes. Eminem should be in amazing just for his three album run alone and Relapse if you are gonna have J. Cole there. Also Jay-Z is perfect, no question.
Lil Boat 1, 2, 3, & 3.5 are great. Summer songs 2, MBB, and Nuthin 2 Prove are nice as well. Yachty has an ok discography. There are a lot of filler songs on the projects tho
Thanks for putting respect on Wayne. I’m his biggest fan and I agree he has a lot of misses but also the highest highs with Da Drought series, No Ceilings, Dedication, and Carter and also his features
@@tannermarkland5214 you’re not a real hip hop fan anyways . So what would I except from a amateur like you. Your just mad that Drake is ranked higher than Eminem
@@staxx2353 “ranked higher than eminem” i can tell from that statement you gotta be 13-15☠️i dont even care about eminem but the fact that you think theres an objective ranking?? come on bruh lol
I love Pac but I wouldn't put him perfect his first two albums were pretty mediocre but his 3 album run after was amazing and Jay-Z American Gangster is amazing it's one of his best albums and Dynasty and Vol. 1 are also underrated albums 🔥
@@EazyRocko Strictly 4 My Niggaz was not mediocre. Keep Ya Head Up, I Get Around, Holler If Ya Hear Me, and Souljah’s Revenge are classic Tupac songs. Just cause an album isn’t a 10/10 or classic doesn’t mean it’s mediocre.
@@Christian-eq6pq it doesn't have to be 10/10 I just think either half or good amount had weak production or not Pac best rapping but I love Keep Ya Head Up, I Get Around, Streetz R Deathrow, Papaz song, Representing 93, Souljah revenge, 5 deadly venomz it's an ok album
He hasnt had a universally loved/praised album in nearly 20 years. Every album after Eminem show is debated on if its good or not. He has 3 undeniable classics and then everything else you can make a good case for ranging from good to horrible
eminem has dropped way more bad albums than kanye lol. the only bad ye album is donda 2 and that doesn't really count since it's unfinished and he's currently working on it
@@0Architectdude0the Drake hate is so ridiculous that you guys lie to yourself 😂😂😂 I bet you have listened to more Take Care or NTWS songs in your life than any Denzel album Numbers don’t lie, nobody stay at the top for so long without talent 🤷🏻♂️
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“Drake has never dropped a bad album”
That’s the biggest cap I’ve heard in a while
Cringe, he literally hasn’t
@@jueezzzz CLB and Scorpion are top 5 albums of all time u freak
Honestly Nevermind is a bad albun. Since views he's been droppiing average projects till CLB, but HM is a badly executed album. Poor vocals and 90% of the songs were underwritten. You might've liked it, but is trash. It's okay to like trash
@@jueezzzz i agree on care package,honestly never mind. But scorpion and clb ? I don’t thing so. Scorpion half first album it’s great and half other is shit so In a scale is a 5 out of 10. Same with clb. So ass means like a 2 or 1 out of 10
im not even a huge drake fan like that but he hasnt made BAD albums, he's made classics, he's made good albums, he's made average albums. none of his albums are unlistenable to the ears. they might be mid but not BAD.
I’m sooo happy to see people the really appreciate Nas’ discography. I think Illmatic overshadows the rest of his albums and people don’t give him enough credit for the rest of his music
Illmatic
It was written
Lost Tapes
Gods Son
Stillmatic
Kings Disease 2
I am…
Kings Disease 1
Magic
He is the goat for a reason.
And let’s not forget about all his amazing unreleased music…
@@MrASAPAB fr. God’s Son, Magic, and King’s Disease II are super slept on
@@Murp_ you know rap
@@MrASAPAB only been listening for a couple of years but I’m trying to broaden my knowledge and artists that I listen to
Im jealous of how u guys get to talk about what u love on a platform like this
It's a grind man.. you may get there one day
Dude if that's what You want to do then do it ya know it may take a while but still
You can do it to but seeing results is a whole nother ball game these guys probably work really hard
@@Perry.... thousands try, only a few make enough to be worth it
Just do it.
“Drake has never had a bad album” *spits water, drops glass, falls down stairs, buildings falls over, lightning hits me, dogs tears my limbs apart, I land* WHAT YOU SMOKING
There from Toronto
Drake has made 3 great albums, and that's about it (Take Care, Nothing was the Same, and IYRTITL). Scorpion is okay overall. The first half is pretty good, however; the back half of the album is bloated and underwhelming. CLB is about a 3/10, and Honestly Nevermind should be called Jimmy Cooks: the Album, because that's the only good song on the album.
@@Young_Brumm15I went through his entire catalogue and the only album that I feel could be considered bad is for all the dogs which wasn’t released at the time
@@ahlethescout8404 you really liked certified lover boy?
@@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome not on release but It got slightly better over time. Don’t get me wrong, his worst songs do come from that album (although i think there’s worse on FATD) but many songs have gotten better (fair trade, champagne poetry, knife talk, 7am, fountains, no friends in the industry, etc)
I love the how you 2 express your opinions. 2 articulate Hip hop heads subjectively discussing the art form. Love it! You earned a new subscriber. Cheers.
Thank you for the love and welcome to the community🤝
I don't know how you always come up with these fire topics. Easily one of the most enjoyable Hip Hop RUclipsrs out there
What do you mean? They rank shit but they do it differently everytime
@@sebastianwiton2907 just cool ideas. Their effort to provide is much appreciated
@@sebastianwiton2907 If you see their entire channel as "just ranking shit" you're a walking circus 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@sebastianwiton2907 why hate
Nothing special tbh
Tyler the Creator definitely has the hardest discog to rate due to that big gap in his sound change.
Yea either him or Mac. Mac's frat rap stuff can be cringey at times (when listening in 2022)
I liked all of tylers stuff but I get why other people don't. Also if we're rating an entire discography I would put alot of these guys lower becuz early mixtapes sucked. Aka kendrick
@@treboleekem499 kendrick never had a bad mixtape. what r u saying????
Who
@@daquonsimmons8240 dude Def hit his head or something
A Tribe Called Quest singlehandedly created the lo-fi hip-hop genre that is still popular today. It's pretty incredible to see the trajectory of influence that they had when they made albums. They definitely had a perfect run as far their discography goes.
Not to rip on ATCQ (They are GOAT tier), but they didn't create the lofi genre. ATCQ is more Jazz rap type stuff, and they were pioneers in that genre along side De La Soul, The Roots, and Digable Planets. They also directly influenced the groups and people that eventually pioneered Lo-Fi, such as Nujabes
@@eliw772 That's a fair point. 👍
@@eliw772 exactly.
Singlehandedly????
@@SPACECOWBOY705 Maybe not singlehandedly, but definitely had a large part in it for sure. I've changed my tune from when I commented.
Mmlp2 is fire, honestly my favourite post hiatus Eminem album, the lyricism on that album is top tier and I think it does a good job at being a sequel to mmlp
The delivery in Legacy/Beautiful Pain, lyricism in Bad Guy/Evil Twin, emotions in Headlights. Survival, Rap God, The Monster are phenomenal. Then his rap-rock songs that go crazy like Berzerk, Wicked Ways, Asshole. Don't Front is SUCH a hidden gem as well, MMLP2 is 🔥
@@egotrips4810 wicked ways first verse is still one of my favorite em verses. The rhyme schemes on that are pretty crazy
Survival is still one of Em's most underrated lyrical performances and there's genuine classics on there too. MMLP2 really wasn't bad at all
Mmlp2 has many flawless songs but is held back as an album with so many of eminems worst songs being in there
@@quablo8962 fair enough, but to me I can only see stronger than I was being considered as a terrible song (although I personally like it, the least out of all mmlp2 songs but if nothing at least the lyrics of it are phenomenal) and on deluxe desperation (I also don't enjoy it as much as other songs and the lyrics are not the best but it's still not terrible to me). About the rest I think all songs have a good point and a reason why they exist and why they are put on the album titled "The Marshall Mathers LP2", you could argue about maybe so much better or love game, but I think they do serve a purpose at showing how his hatred for bitches is still the same as it was during mmlp, plus I enjoy so much of both songs. The song I don't enjoy as much is asshole, but it has amazing lyrics so to me it's also not a bad song.
Would have liked to have seen where you guys ranked Kid Cudi’s discography
Mid.
@@MrASAPAB 🤡 Good.
@@Perry.... mid.
@@MrASAPAB it’s at least “great” MOTM 1 and 2 are classics.
I’m a cudi fan, but I’d throw him in good. Man on the Moon 1&2 are certified classics for both Cudi and the genre, but he hasn’t had that momentum since. Even though I enjoyed Man on the Moon 3, and even some earlier projects, it didn’t have the impact both the first two projects did. Still, Cudi to me is a legend.
Freddie Gibbs has to have one of the best discographies in all of hip hop
unfortunately he wasnt mentioned. He has recently been growing on me a lot!
I can’t with his voice idk
@@Brite-Bomber His voice is the best part
@@Maxipadtriplesixsometimes it’s hard for me to understand him, but when I do he goes hard
ngl freddie and ESGN weren’t good albums😭 but i love $$$ and his colabs with madlib
I feel like you guys focus more on popularity and impact with these vids more than what you actually like more, like you literally said that Denzel not being super popular hurt his case. I still like when you guys do this stuff I just wish you would focus less on the objective aspects and more on just what you like. Nevertheless, keep up the good work and I still love you're content❤
Agreed but at the same time it’s important to take into account if impact and influence
@@zerois2801 facts
@@zerois2801 agree
@@zerois2801 if Denzel didn’t exist, rap would be exactly the same. So yea.
@@MrASAPAB bro you must be kidding, his influence on Soundcloud rap butterflyd into the existence of the post Soundcloud wave try again
denzel should defo be on amazing imo.
Taboo, imperial, MMESYF, zuu, unlocked, N64 all great, and taboo and imperial are classics imo.
Denzel not being Amazing is criminal, I could see him being perfect.
people use classic way to loose
Sorry man but imperial is not a classic at all
Pink Friday is a class in terms of female rap. It's really easy to say it's not when you stack her up against her contemporaries but at the same time just like we don't mix in trap and traditional , conscious , or experimental rap , it is not fair to do the same to her. Without Pink Friday half of the female rap population would simply cease to exist , I know most times this is credited to Lil Kim with albums such as Hardcore but as far as modern rap and especially modern female rap , I don't know if there is a album more important to the landscape. Nicki was ruling that scene for a hot minute and miraculously still is whether through her directly or the branches off her tree of influence. In fact I guarantee if that same question was asked to people such as Doja Cat , Megan Thee Stallion , City Girls , and countless others they would say the same. For better or for worse depending on how you view female rap , Pink Friday changed the scene for female rap and modern pop music in general I believe.
Not a Nicki fan but i agree with your comment, she def pave the way to the new gen of the likes of Doja and Cardi (the first time i hear Bodak Yellow i though it was Nicki), my favorite song from her is Champion, really like the conscious rap of the song
Definitely agree. Modern day female rappers, and even some male rappers, wouldn’t have a career if it weren’t for that album.
agreed nicki is the pinkprint of female rap
Agreed
@@televisedpork7993what male rappers are you talking about lol ?
Vince Staples didn’t make the cut? He’s easily had one of the best artistic developments with “Vince Staples” and “Romana Park Broke my Heart” both being exceptional albums with great production and his utilization of said production is fantastic. Definitely upset to not see it mentioned here
just saw vince staples live in LA
💯 Vince is one of the most consistent artists out rn real talk
Yeah fr like over fucking jack harlow?? Cmon
summertime 06 one of my all time favorites
Denzel at great only bc mainstream don’t listen to him is wild, with imperial, taboo, zuu, unlocked, and melt my eyez, its perfect no doubt
@@FRESIDENThow? He’s changed his sound on nearly every album? That’s an L take
@@FRESIDENTadmit you don't listen bro
Cry and meatride more. You can't have a perfect rating if your album is 8 at best
Not perfect. Amazing tho
Earl staying in good is a crazy hot take
besides being one of the best lyricists of our generation, he's also undeniably one of the most important artists when it comes to showing off vulnerability and losing your grip from time to time. Of course that doesnt mean that the more depressed you are, the better you are as a musician LMFAO but rather that in its own definition, he DOES have a classic, if not multiple. Some rap songs will go down in history as one of the best albums ever in my eyes
Yeah can't believe he's that low... sure he has earl and sure feet of clay is an acquired taste but all his studio albums meet a pretty damn high standard
One issue. HES BORINGGGGGG
I agree and I will also say SRS really helped shift the underground sound as well as MIKE. They incredibly impactful as far as the underground
Fax
just for having some rap songs in his catalogue he should be in great just saying
Bro I was so happy when you guys put my 3 favorite artists of all time, Kanye, OutKast, and Kendrick, all in perfect. Big W
The roots should have been in this video. Not as popular as the others, but they easily have one of the 5 best discographies in rap history
U speaking facts
Big Sean deserves his flowers he shouldve at least cracked the good tier!
Logic’s mixtape run was legendary I’m glad you mentioned it
16:50 the thing is he doesn't drop as much albums as other artists do so he hasn't been able to show his discog off as much but every project is definitely quality. His quality so good he already has a major influence.
They gave it a Great because he has the chance to slip up. If they are going to use that logic for Travis then it should be applied to BIG (which I personally think is a dumb argument). Travis has a near perfect run for me. Definitely better than drakes and ems because it has no flat out fails.
Ghostface, Wu Tang clan and Mobb Deep should have definitely been included.
NWA or Public enemy too
Ghostface: Great
Wu Tang: Good (If you include all the group member's solo albums then it's amazing)
Mobb Deep: Great (2 Classics, but the rest were meh)
@@Maxipadtriplesix 2 classics and 1 strong album. So yeah pretty good but I wish they could’ve done more because they had so much potential to be one of the most consistent rap groups ever. Should include The Roots should be included and they are one of the most consistent rap groups ever.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring I agree, when I was a teenager, I was obsessed with Wu Tang. If you asked me then, I would have said perfect. But now, with perspective, there was a clear drop off in quality after Wu Tang Forever, and even worse drop off with 8 Diagrams.
I think you could make the case that Tical through Ironman were all group albums since RZA was still the only producer and almost all of the features were Wu Tang.
seeing the kanye take after vultures 2 is just hilarious
Still at the top tbh. Overhated, and they aren't that bad. But they don't take away from his others. Bound to happen eventually, pun intended
@KingGrippy Nah now after vultures 2 his discography is just amazing, vultures 1 was bad (4/10) and vultures 2 was dog shit (2/10)
@feljemuro v1 wasn't bad..and neither was v2
Nicki in mid is crazy, she's on the good level for sure
exactly
her music isn't everyone's cup of tea
She’s the goat
for me in between perfect and amazing
They only know how to kiss drake's and Kanye's asses , this channel is only dedicated to that
For Logic, Welcome to Forever was the first mixtape that FELT like an album to me... absolutely incredible. Not sure if he ever outdid that on his albums
Under Pressure was amazing.
As much as I like Logic’s first few albums I feel he was way better with mixtapes
Welcome to forever is goated. Besides incredible true story still my favorite logic project
@@WaltFromTheFuture welcome to forever is perfect
@@azma775 holds up 10 years later 💯💯💯
I love that you guys respect your opinions and you listen to eachother.
i don’t think you’ve seen some of their other videos
@@bucio2real just a couple ngl
Would love to see you guys jump on an interview and talk music with Fantano! That would be a great vibe. I’m sure he’s keen.
Lol. Fantano would tear them apart. They are incredibly inconsistent and lean too heavily on what’s popular. Their opinions are never super original or shocking. They would simply agree with most of what he says. And if they disagree then he’d rip them apart. Melon is the almighty savior of music critics.
@@Hdingdong opinions always shouldn’t be shocking lmao, sometime everyone are right and agree with a common thing, like when pimp a butterfly dropped did anyone say that was a bad album, NO cause it isn’t. There are lotta opinions that they have that is different too like they don’t take care was drakes best album, and so on, it’s not always a bad thing to be a bandwagon
@@Hdingdong lmao missed this fucking cringe comment
@@Hdingdong I really hope you are being satirical lol
@@workt42 On God lol. I don't think even Fantano would want his fans to act like every opinion he gives is a gospel and superior to all other musical opinions. I'm starting to see why his fans are usually clowned on judging by replies like that
“I will never get the props I ever deserve… but my spot is forever reserved” -Till I collapse
Marshall Mathers LP 2 is fucking great, I’ve listened to it 100 times. Give Eminem his respect
Because you listened to it a hundred times doesnt mean we should give him respect… lol
@@dawiepower1 mmlp2 is fire
True
fr he should easily be perfect… disrespectful
@@dawiepower1 means it’s good. Means that Eminem should get more props for it. But Eminem should be getting more respect in general
Jay Z has to be perfect The Black Album, Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, 4:44, American Gangster 😭, Vol 1. If Nas is in perfect then Hov gotta be
i mean, magna carta and blueprint 3 arent really good
As great as Nas is, he def doesn't have a perfect catalog, neither does Hov.
@@thebohr11 I respect that take. So in your opinion who are the rappers that have a perfect catalog??
@@bobt9705 I got Pac, Biggie (both died too fast to have a bad album) and Kanye.
@@thebohr11 Agree with you about Pac and biggie. Kanye?? Nah bro. Kanye is arguably the best album maker ever in rap history but he definitely doesn't have a perfect discography.
Earl's some rap songs is one of the best experimental rap albums of the decade, definitely a masterpiece
American gangster is one of Jays best albums and the last truly classic album in his catalogue for now
4:44 ?
@@Elightenment 4:44 highlights and focus songs are truly great, but i feel as a whole the record doesn’t get play like that, especially when compared to the heavy hitter classic lps
You guys topic choices are always on point NFR discography of videos is top tier perfect !! I watch daily
i love that when nav came up, they were both like “yeah he’s in the bad category” 😂😂
Big Krit got one of the craziest discographies.
Best mixtape discography.
Very underrated catalog!
gettin tired of people saying yachty has a bad discography whenever the last album they listened to from him was lil boat 2 or teenage emotions. nuthin 2 prove, lil boat 3, and michigan boy boat have changed the way his fans listen to him.
fr, I feel like michigan boy boat is honestly one of his most cohesive albums and it slaps
damnnnnn denzel deserved at least amazing, his albums have been super consistently amazing. love the vid and your opinions!
I was hoping you guys would do this video! I'm so excited to listen to this
denzel's discography is amazing or perfect, its so diverse, brilliant and no-miss
Not perfect, amazing
For what Travis has released so far it should be in amazing ngl. Its a bit unfair to put him lower purely because he would be above Drake and Em.
As usual, NFR classic on our hands! Good shit like always gentlemen 🔥
IM SO HYPE FOR THIS VIDEO
Wayne ,Eminem & Future needs to be on Amazing List tbh...
Eminem is way too inconsistent.
Not Eminem
Oh Eminem at his best still shits on these two though
@@roronoalaw7772 NO
@@staxx2353 No to what?
Mac I think personally should’ve made perfect. He changed a lot and he seamlessly did it not missing on a album. But glad to see he didn’t drop under amazing
I think the only thing holding him back from Perfect is Blue Slide Park which is good to me but I can see why others might not like it
Love the long videos
Hope you enjoy this one Trek!
Pink Friday is an absolute classic! Love that album! So many bangers on it.
JayZ not perfect? Bro literally is the most quoted rapper in hip-hop
He has some misses for me for sure. I think The Blueprint, the Black Album, and Reasonable doubt are a clear step above his other albums
@@trtorbelfort in terms of writing he’s really the greatest Kendrick Lamar quotes Jay Z at least once on every single one of his albums man has ghost wrote for some of the best in the game,
@@shawnfox3357 yes but this is about discographies not rapping. Otherwise Jay-Z would definitely be perfect
@@leespn4396 even on that front damn near half of his albums are classic
Reasonable doubt volume one the blueprint the black album 444 the blueprint three
quotes don’t matter in this convo, its discographies
I am struggling not seeing jay z in perfect as he is easily considered a goat
Facts😭
Fax that bothers me
I'll admit Music to be Murdered by has 4ish skippable songs that I never go back to, but there are incredible tracks on this album. The only albums keeping Em's discography from being perfect IMO are revival, half of MMLP 2, and about a quarter of Encore. Even with the misses, it's still an Amazing catalog in my humble opinion.
Eminem and 50 really be getting ranked low
D Curry never dropped a mid album. All of his albuns are great. Deserved "Amazing" tier.
I wish y’all would’ve talked about Idlewild. It’s a good record too, it deserves more praise for its creative side and instrumentals. Even the rapping
21 savage is someone with a very underrated discography. He really was good from the jump
Denzel and jpeg have never ever missed in both lp's and ep's. They deserve to be in Amazing
Drake, Eminem, travis and Tyler are all amazing. They may have some misses but the highs are just as high or higher than Cole, Mac and especially carti
Tyler sucks.
Yeah but drake has too many misses and Em yeah 1 or 2 misses out of 10 is ok but more than that isn't I also think ye should have been a tier lower because he has like 4 misses imo
@@Jack-wo2co Em has the following misses: revival, Kamikaze, recovery, encore, MTBMB, MTBMB B side, and MMLP2.
@@MrASAPAB that's arguably but in my opinion En only misses are Revival, Encore,Relapse, and MMLP 2 other than that everything else imo are good or great.
@@Jack-wo2co drake only got like 1 or 2 misses to me tbh
Travis scott discography is flawless, at least amazing bros come on
Fax I mean Rodeo and Astroworld are both masterpieces and his production and soundscapes are just crazy
@@ethand.5506birds in the trap underrated album
Rodeo= top 10 album of all time
Astroworld= for me personally best hip hop album of all time
@@djoschua5292 fair takes I think they're both 9's and would rank at least top 20 hiphop for me
We adore mtbmb because we actually care about lyrical talent
What you said about biggie, Eminem did it in a 3 album run as well. Completely changed the entire industry to this day. I think these days people really don’t realize how crazy Eminem coming on the scene really was.
Would be great if you made a "best 10 verses of..."
That sounds like a good idea… thanks crimson king!🤝
@@NFRPodcast I have to thank 🤝🧐😄
you guys always make great videos, keep it up 🔥
I swear all NFR videos are at that perfect tier
The 🐐 has blessed our day!
Nah that yachty take was an L
@@Soern04 was it really? I didn't think it was bad
@@tqmper7153 having yachty below jack harlow on this kind of list should be a crime. His discography is at least mid, even if you dont like him. I would have him at good because he has extremely high highs but also lows for me in his discography
Kanye, Kendrick, Outkast, MFDOOM & a Tribe Called Quest are Top 5
And Carti
MF doom one of the most consistent album to album same with Tribe
@@solracva6287 💀
The Roots instead Kanye
Not outkast, their last 2 albums are bad and their debut is weaker than a lot of goats debuts
coming back to this 2 years later I definitely think he’s in the amazing tier now his music is just so timeless
Lil Wayne. LIL WAYNE? How is he in great? Nah, Lil Wayne is definitely amazing. lil WAYNE. Amazing.
I always thought if Eminem retired after Relapse he would of had a solid top tier discographies. I started to lose interest after he completely switched up during the recovery era and onwards
I think he should have retired after the eminem show. He would have had no bad albums then.
@@djmeagaaim17it's not about having a perfect discography dude. I don't think Emjnem really cares about it. Think if he had retired after the TES we would have missed so many gems from him. So i think he's decided to do his work for the culture as much as he can.
@@akashsanjeewa7277 Except the culture is rejecting him now
@@djmeagaaim17 But the majority is still enjoying him. So i think he should do his work for some years from now. Even jay-z who's older than him hasn't retired 😅
Great video. Your main problem is that you have “perfect” as the top tier. That word indicates flawless, but a flawed discography can be better than a flawed discography
Agreed, when I think of perfect discography I think of every album released is a 10/10 and I don’t think a single artist in their perfect tier qualifies for that except maybe Biggie, but that’s cheating when he only released two albums.
Great video, guys keep it up. I respectfully disagree with your Jay Z and Em takes. Eminem should be in amazing just for his three album run alone and Relapse if you are gonna have J. Cole there. Also Jay-Z is perfect, no question.
Jay z has to be in perfect tier
@@smerk1985 totally agree
J Cole not being in perfect is crazy but basically everything else I agree with. Found you guys through shorts and fell in love with the content !!
Nah I think they put him in the right place, he good but he doesn’t reach the same heights as often as Kanye,Kendrick OutKast etc
@Joshua Robin cap kod 8/10
@Joshua Robin hell nah
@Joshua Robin do you not listen to me messages?? + god tier rapping. what’s horrible about it
@@allin4508 I agree, but like they had done with some others he should be placed in that tier but below them.
I’ve never heard a single person say Nas is a one album wonder.
Okay I need to see a video on MMLP 2 I genuinely think that’s a great album
as long as DOOM gets the appreciation he deserves I'm happy
Em is amazing. The only album that‘s a complete L is Revival.
His last amazing album was recovery and that was like 5 albums ago
Eminem only has 3 Good albums every other album is BAD
@@staxx2353 cap
@@staxx2353 Cap
Almost 1h of great Content from u? HELL YEA
This is a more accurate best rappers Tier list than your best rapper tier list
Lil Boat 1, 2, 3, & 3.5 are great. Summer songs 2, MBB, and Nuthin 2 Prove are nice as well. Yachty has an ok discography. There are a lot of filler songs on the projects tho
Ain't no way y'all put j Cole catalogue as amazing when it's perfect
He mid
You guys should also discuss the beefs that happened in Hiphop till now
Thanks for putting respect on Wayne. I’m his biggest fan and I agree he has a lot of misses but also the highest highs with Da Drought series, No Ceilings, Dedication, and Carter and also his features
6:30 "sorry i mispronounced that" goes on to say it wrong again lmaoooo
you think Drake’s NEVER put out a bad album 😂😂i want what youre smoking
He never put out a bad album until recently though
@@staxx2353 most delusional opinion ☠️
@@tannermarkland5214 you’re not a real hip hop fan anyways . So what would I except from a amateur like you. Your just mad that Drake is ranked higher than Eminem
@@staxx2353 “ranked higher than eminem” i can tell from that statement you gotta be 13-15☠️i dont even care about eminem but the fact that you think theres an objective ranking?? come on bruh lol
@@tannermarkland5214 there is an objective ranking. The real problem is your mad that Eminem is ranked lower that’s what your mad
Kanye Is One Of A Kind🐐
J Cole and Mac Miler being above Wayne/Em is crazy
They have more releases which means more bad albums unfortunately. Eminem would have been higher if he retired before that long run of weakness
@@thebohr11 Facts
Cole and Mac both have double the amount of better projects than eminem. And their discographies are also roughly the same size when you count tapes.
Great Episode! I missed Fabolous though
0:59 huh are you crazy? loved the vid btw
I love Pac but I wouldn't put him perfect his first two albums were pretty mediocre but his 3 album run after was amazing and Jay-Z American Gangster is amazing it's one of his best albums and Dynasty and Vol. 1 are also underrated albums 🔥
wtf is this take
@@devinixm8235 Pac first two albums were mediocre Me Against The World was his first great album
@@EazyRocko Strictly 4 My Niggaz was not mediocre. Keep Ya Head Up, I Get Around, Holler If Ya Hear Me, and Souljah’s Revenge are classic Tupac songs. Just cause an album isn’t a 10/10 or classic doesn’t mean it’s mediocre.
@@Christian-eq6pq it doesn't have to be 10/10 I just think either half or good amount had weak production or not Pac best rapping but I love Keep Ya Head Up, I Get Around, Streetz R Deathrow, Papaz song, Representing 93, Souljah revenge, 5 deadly venomz it's an ok album
It's a bit of a hot take , I disagree but it's def alot worse then his last 2 albums . But then again all eyez on me is like top 5 hip hop album ever
how can you put em’s discography in great. I get that the last didn’t do much, but man his Highs are just too high. Definitely Amazing.
He hasnt had a universally loved/praised album in nearly 20 years. Every album after Eminem show is debated on if its good or not. He has 3 undeniable classics and then everything else you can make a good case for ranging from good to horrible
yall need to do Best & Worst Producer Tier List
MMLP2 is a classic
ok dude
"Nastradamus is not perfect tho.." yeah, i can literally say the same about donda and jesus is king
Kanye and Eminem should both be in amazing they have both dropped there share if bad and mid albums
eminem has dropped way more bad albums than kanye lol. the only bad ye album is donda 2 and that doesn't really count since it's unfinished and he's currently working on it
@@gsorestes9933 Jesus is King exists. Meanwhile Eminem only had two mediocre albums MAX, and only one that ppl agree on.
@@malamark04 defo more than 2
@@malamark04 jik is mid. even if you think it's bad it's his only bad album. whereas eminem has multiple bad and mid albums
Em got to many bad or mediocre albums to be in the 'amazing' category
Jay-Z catalog not perfect? Wtf?
Nicki Minaj first 2 albums were great for a female MC. She easily in the great level.
Jay Z has the best catalog in hip hop
Perfect meaning not a single dud to me. Dude has duds
Nicki??? 🤣
Having drake on the same level as Denzel is ridiculous lol
Drake has take care, nwts and views bruh.
@@kendrickpfaff4805 ya and every single one of Denzel’s albums (imperial, ta13oo, zuu, unlocked, melt my eyez) wipe those out of the water
@@0Architectdude0the Drake hate is so ridiculous that you guys lie to yourself 😂😂😂
I bet you have listened to more Take Care or NTWS songs in your life than any Denzel album
Numbers don’t lie, nobody stay at the top for so long without talent 🤷🏻♂️
@@joaopedrobaldo3316 bros glazing
These guys never run out of ideas!
Eminem next to Drake is insane
Putting carti at good was criminal... he has never missed on a project
W
fax
he has 3 albums, not really a large discography
@@Cloverlee19 not even 3 he has 2 albums and 1 mixtape
I mean his 3 albums are decent but they have quite a number of misses on them as well
j cole above eminem is crazy
really nice breakdown of the strength of Biggie's 2 albums!
Love to see where they’d rate Kanye today😂
🔥 The effort 🔥