Siberian Separatism | GREEN UKRAINE and the FAR EASTERN REPUBLIC during the Russian Civil War
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2024
- In the aftermath of WWI, Russia descended into chaos. Bolshevik forces, led by V.I. Lenin, seized power and soon faced off with a loose collection of anti-communists known as the Whites. But, while a struggle to determine Russia’s political future was occurring back west, others took advantage of the instability, making their own push for independence in the remote, Russian Far East.
#history #ghostcountries #russia
Well, sort of - the Far Eastern Republic’s tale is a bit more complicated.
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Intro Animation / Character Design: Emily Clearwater, iamprettyawesome.co.nz
Music: “Soviet March” by Shane Ivers - www.silvermansound.com
00:00 Russia after World War I
01:24 The Russian Civil War
02:40 The Ukrainians and the foundation of Green Ukraine
04:17 The foundation of the Far Eastern Republic
06:48 Events till the end of the Far Eastern Republic
09:04 The End of Green Ukraine
09:24 Conclusion
Russia: "I AM THE TRUE SUCCESSOR TO THE ROMAN EMPIRE!"
World: "Prove it"
*Devolves into chaos*
What an insane, often overlooked thing, the Russian civil war. Thanks for making this video.
Thanks, really glad you enjoyed the video; also, as a fellow TES player, I appreciate the profile pic and name!
@@GhostCountries My fellow gamer 🥂
That green Ukraine reminds me of the Transamur Republic of the kaiserreich universe
It definitely is quite similar...kind of a cross between Green Ukraine and the FER. 🤔
Khabarovsk wants and fights for independence today! Long Live Siberian Republics down do Moscow Horde !!
@@hybridarmyofthegdl2193 I'm from Khabarovsk! we are not fighting for independence! do not lie!! we are fighting for our governor
Well done. An extremely complicated chapter of history conveyed in a most interesting manner. Love the emojis.
I recently found your channel through your videos about the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and its legacy, but I have to say that this video might be even better.
Thank you so much Artur and welcome; just curious, anything in particular about this video (length, subject matter, etc.) that you liked more compared to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
Oh, and on that note, we actually do have more videos about ghost countries popping up during the Russian Civil War in the works!
@@GhostCountries I think it's that both topics align with my interests but I knew far less about this one.
@@Artur_M. I totally understand that and think episodes dealing with less well known chapters from history are just that more interesting too.
I have deep respect for this channel, and all channels which just keep going no matter how little help they get from the dreadful algorithm
Siberian separatists: "So hey guys we're gonna go do our thi-"
Lenin: *G E T O V E R H E R E*
Pretty much sums it up...hahaha
Congrats on the debut!!
Good quality!!
Thank you!
Great job guys! Please keep working and posting videos.
I learned a lot of things by your video. keep going!👍👍👍
Thanks, really glad to hear it; more videos on the way soon!
Great work!!! 😁😁😁
Great 1st video!!
More to come!
Cool video! The various separatist and nation-building experiments that arose surrounding the break-up of Austria-Hungary and during the Russian Civil War is one of the most fascinating historical events to me. Just subbed, I think your channel is really cool!
Thank you so much Garrett and welcome to the channel! 😃 We’ve actually got another video set in the Russian Civil War planned that deals with Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus; oh, and Austria-Hungary just itself would be fascinating to look into, not even mentioning the states that popped following its collapse, like you mentioned.
@@GhostCountries excellent! I'll certainly be on the lookout for that content! Thank you!!! 👍👍
Enjoyed the content and I like the country balls! Well designed!
Thank you so much!
For the algorithm! Good Video!
Yo this aint a bad channel. Good job!
Hey, thanks!
Very informative!!
Glad you think so!
Very good information.
Great work!
Hey, thank you so much; just checked out your channel and you've got some interesting content as well - keep it up! 😃
@@GhostCountries thank you, the same yourself😀
Good job!
Thanks!
Very interesting. Look forward to the next episode!
More to come!
Слава Сибири! Ураа!
We eventually will have some other episodes about Siberia, including one on the Khanate of Sibir!
With cost of “black gold” at 15-23 dollars per barrel, the USSR economy collapsed, and the sovok itself collapsed, and the "golden" horde ("russia") budget can only be fulfilled only with oil price at $ 42.4 and higher
Cool video.
Wow, a comment from History Hustle 🤩; thank you so much, glad you liked the video!
I actually just finished watching your video about the Alsace-Lorraine Soviet Republic, which I never heard of before, and will probably be binge watching your short-lived states playlist next! There's just so many former countries, short-lived and otherwise, lost to the sands of time..or almost, anyway.
Also, congrats on 100k!
Fun fact: Far Eastern Republic was secretly pro-japan and the trouble for them actually started when Soviet found it.
The whole story of Japan's intervention in Siberia (and the broader goals in the region) is definitely something I plan on exploring here on the channel at some point. Yeah, it's not a ghost country per se, but there's a few wrapped up in there.
Great deserve my subscription
Thank you so much and there's plenty more content on the way!
We have to learn from their mistakes and free ALL of Eurasia of the Ruzzki Cancer
This is exactly the type of stuff I like to watch but I question how the algorithm chose this video with less than 600 views and is 3 months old.
wacky
I don't completely understand the algorithm either, but still glad you found our channel; we do have newer videos too...hahaha
*3:02 Not Ukrainians, but people which native language is Ukrainian. There could have been a little more Ukrainians in reality.
Loved the (Revolution noises)
It were Siberians /Russians in the Asia that always save those European Russians.But it seems like Moscow was always ungrateful towards Siberians . Siberians are not separatist but they are regionalist which means they demand autonomy just like Russia has given autonomy to many others
Again and again Far East is treated as a part of Siberia in english-speaking RUclips
*sad noises*
I think you two are talking about two different aspects. I guess you are talking about the political region whereas in the video they are talking about the geographical region. If this is the case, then both of you are technically correct :D
@@miltiadeskomnenos7437 maybe
In my culture Far East isn't considered a part of Siberia in any sense, but geography isn't universal, knowing that we have different understanding of continents with english speakers
Hey, no sad noises here 😅; in the video we referred to Siberia in its broadest, historical sense, like @Miltiades noted, which can range from the Urals in the west all the way to the Pacific coast in the east - at least among English language sources.
To your point though, Green Ukraine / the FER would definitely be outside the Siberian Federal District and even what is today considered geographic Siberia in modern Russia, if my understanding is correct.
Don’t know if this really helps, but I hope it provided some context and going forward we'll try being more conscientious of existing definitions out there!
@@GhostCountries north and west of Far Eastern Republic were parts of eastern Siberia historically, i can agree with that, but Vladivostok, Amur and Sakhalin weren't, really
These lands sometimes are called "Outer Manchuria", which is also arguable, but probably a better classification
As a geneticist i always say to students that all classifications are artificial and don't really matter, though
Video is very good, i must mention, actually
@@sodinc Seriously, thanks for providing more context - especially since we are planning more episodes in that corner of the world at some point - and really glad to hear you liked the video regardless!
*actually, covering Sakhalin or the Kuril Islands would make for a nice ghost geography episode 🤔
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После 2-й Мировой войны 10-мильонная Беларусь не досчиталась около 3-х мильонов своих жителей, однако околь 2-х миллионов были убиты еще до войны органами коммунистического НКВД. В Беларуси физически уничтожили 70 процентов всех белорусских писателей, убили ученых и художников. (Труппа Третьего Белорусского Государственного театра Владислава Голубка была арестована в полном составе. Почти все были расстреляны.) Убивали по национальному признаку. Ради этого был придуман ярлык "нацдем" (это значит -- национальный демократ, хотя такой партии не существовало). Этот ярлык приклеивали ко всем белорусам, которых сталинисты планировали уничтожить. В недрах НКВД была придумана несуществующая антикоммунистическая организация СВБ ("союз освобождения Беларуси"). Под придуманный фантом энкавэдисты проводили аресты, вели воображаемое следствие, допрашивали, пытали, судили, потом ссылали в Россию и расстреливали невинных людей. После Рижского сговора в 1921 году Беларусь разделили между Польшей и Россией. Границу раздела провели недалеко от Менска. Существовал тайный приказ НКВД уничтожать всё белорусское население вдоль границы. Российские аккупанты хотели сделать здесь безлюдную зону. Уничтожение осуществляли пограничные войска. Довереным лицам выдавали винтовку и лопату. Когда такой солдат-пограничник встречал в безлюдном месте (на дороге, в поле, в лесу) одинокого белоруса или белоруску, или ребенка, он стрелял человека, тут же лопатой выкапывал яму и засыпал труп.
Такова была инструкция. Люди в деревнях не так боялись "человека с ружьём", как солдата с лопатой. (Эти факты опубликованы в белорусской печати в начале 90-х годов.) В 30-х годах на 95-99 процентов (практически полностью) была уничтожена (сослана и расстреляна) белорусская коммунистическо-партийная и советская администрация. Уничтожали даже директорат и хозяйственных руководителей. На должности убитых администраторов и коммунистических начальников-белорусов присылали русских из России. Русские (так называемые "выдвиженцы") приезжали в Беларусь, занимали освобожденные должности, получали льготы, имущество, квартиры и первое, что они делали -- закрывали белорусские школы, переводили их на русский язык, чтобы их дети могли учиться, не обременяя себя изучением, как они говорили, "никому ненужного" белорусского языка. Таким образом оккупанты создавали в Беларуси "русскоязычное население". Этноцид, лингвацид, мнемацид и геноцид проводзились большевиками одновременно.
Уничтожение белорусов российским НКВД продолжалось и во времена немецкой аккупации. В июне 1941 года в первые дни войны коммунисты расстреляли в тюрьмах и на этапах тысячи заключенных. Только в Брестской крепости, где была страшная тюрьма НКВД, всех арестованных ликвидировать не успели, часть из них разбежалась. Тем временем большая группа надзирателей и функционеров НКВД была заблокирована в крепости немцами. Они сидели там около месяца, пока не вымерли. Лет через 20 после войны коммунисты придумали легенду о "героической обороне" Брестской крепости. Обращает на себя внимание тот факт, что широкое советское партизанское движение было организовано только в Беларуси и частично -- на этнических белорусских землях, которые были в составе России (Смоленщина, Брянщина). В оккупированой России партизанского движения не было. Почему? Да потому, что продолжал действовать план уничтожения белорусской нации. Москва, используя органы НКВД, втянула массы гражданского белорусского населения в войну против немцев, и этим подставила белорусов под немецкий удар.
Необходимое дело борьбы исходило из коварного замысла и осуществлялось подлыми методами. (Сталин хотел получить двойную выгоду.) Энкавэдисты специально около белорусской деревени убивали немца или делали другую провокацию, чтобы вызвать карательную операцию гитлеровцев (которые обычно сжигали всю деревню, чаще всего -- вместе с людьми). Таким образом, кстати, в результате специальной провокации советских партизан была сожжена и известная Хатынь, которую коммунисты потом в 70-х годах разрекламировали на весь мир как типичную жертву фашистского зверства.
В результате такой коммуно-фашистской совместной "работы" в Беларуси сожгли более 9 тысяч деревень. Поэтому к концу войны, в результате специальной операции НКВД, многие белорусские командиры были посланы на смерть, отстранены от командования, убиты и репрессированы. Их места занимали русские, присланные из Мосвы, и верные энкавэдисты. Летом 1944 года, когда "красная армия" заняла Беларусь, русские провели мобилизацию в армию на белорусской территории. Десятки тысяч молодых белорусских мужчин, почти без подготовки, бросили на передовую линию фронта. Русские командиры поднимали их в ненужные атаки под огонь немецких пулеметов, не дав даже оружия в руки, или с винтовками, но без патронов. Они гибли тысячами, как трава под косой. А те, что бежали назад, попадали под пули энкавэдистских "заградотрядов". Впрочем, заградотряды стреляли и в спину. Так продолжалось уничтожение белорусов на войне, руками немцев и русских одновременно. Как говорили коммунисты, "в борьбе за советскую родину". В 40-х годах русские вывезли в Сибирь и там замучили всех лесников и так называемых "кулаков" из Западной Беларуси. Вывозили вагонами, по разнорядках.
[revolution noices]
The video is not correct. You have the far east of Russia somehow become Siberia 😄I currently live in Khabarovsk. Far East. No one calls the far east Siberia.
Ah, we actually had someone else in Russia bring this up too. What I found out (after doing this video) is the term "Siberia," for English-speakers, has changed over time and can be a bit geographically vague. Historically, Siberia was defined as the whole part of Russia and North Kazakhstan to the east of Ural Mountains, including the Russian Far East; however, nowadays it mainly refers to the Siberian Federal District in Russia. Although, I think a lot of people (English-speaking world again) still work off the older definition.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberia
So basically
Yellow Ukraine
+
Blue Ukraine
=
Green Ukraine
Exactly! 😅
Actually, there’s a historical territory called Yellow Ukraine or the Yellow Wedge (along with a Grey and Purple Ukraine) that we plan to cover in a future episode.
@@shounen_A True; it'll probably be a mini-episode or something, more ghost geography than a ghost country.
@@GhostCountries grey and purple? HOW MANY UKRAINES ARE THERE?
Any ukraine= bullsh*t
Why "Green" Ukraine?
You know, I don't honestly know why and even after searching for a while, it's not exactly clear. I'll probably reach out to a few of our members on Discord from Ukraine and see if they have any idea though.
@@GhostCountries Thank you so much!
In French Imperial unofficial color code, which became fashionable across Europe, "Black people/ Blacks" was the name of tax payers and "White people/Whites" was the name of privileged classes who did not pay taxes (Landlords, Clergy etc.) So, Red Army represented "taxpayers" and nicknamed "Chern' = Blacks and their counterpart, former privileged classes, were nicknamed "Whites". Ukrainian "Green" concept is to kill all of them, as former taxpayers are just happy to become tax collectors, and to establish "Natural Selection". Otherwise, any society eventually will rotten to the core.
@@GhostCountries In French Imperial unofficial color code, which became fashionable across Europe, "Black people/ Blacks" was the name of tax payers and "White people/Whites" was the name of privileged classes who did not pay taxes (Landlords, Clergy etc.) So, Red Army represented "taxpayers" and nicknamed "Chern' = Blacks and their counterpart, former privileged classes, were nicknamed "Whites". Ukrainian "Green" concept is to kill all of them, as former taxpayers are just happy to become tax collectors, and to establish "Natural Selection". Otherwise, any society eventually will rotten to the core.
Interesting. Do you know where I could learn more about that color code?@@achatcueilleur5746
Hi , I from Siberia, I'm don't speak English. Я могу рассказать много фактов о Сибири в гражданской войне и её положении на 1917-1923 ,а так же о политических движениях в данный момент , я сам сепаратист и хочу отделения Сибири от России
Oh, no problem - I just used Google Translate 😉; thanks for commenting! There’s a lot more history from the region that we’re planning to explore, like the Khanate of Siber (Себер ханлыгы), etc.
@@GhostCountries тот язык который ты указал это немного другой язык вроде как
Влажные мечты.
@@Kampotik ок
You have much support from the world, even of it doesnt seem that way. Russia is hated from Finland to Japan! I would give my life to see the terrible Russian federation fall and finally see a free Eurasia, it will happen in our lifetimes brother
Moscow empire has 0 chance in 21c. Siberians will be free again !
Siberians will be exterminated
most Siberians do not want to secede from Russia
@@user-pk1wn8ol1rmy friend they posted that two years ago
also i dont think you can speak for such a broad umbrella of people
I am from Siberia and I am proud of being of Russian Federation we always have been and will be Russians
@@jackhardy3905😂 we always been Russia?
Свободу дальнему востоку! ⬜️🟢
It will come and we will all live to see it
will USA gonna give the FAR EAST a Democracy there's lots of country in Far EAst like 88%?
Hey, sorry, but I don't think I understand what you're asking.
Время возращать исторические территории.
Кому возвращать?
Украине
@@zombopanda А причем здесь украина?) 15% населения только украинцы.
@@Kampotik 15% - в 1897 году по данным переписи. В последующие два десятка лет в регион переселились ещё несколько сотен тысяч людей. Согласно исследованиям В. М. Кабузана (дальше беру из Википедии), в Амурской области украинцы составляли 49,7% поселенцев, а в Приморской 61,2%
@@epicshawn360 Если бы было так, то сейчас % украинцев был бы большой, но он маленький. Это скорее бежавшие от войны, а после вернувшиеся.
Khabarovsk wants and fights for independence today! Long Live Siberian Republics down do Moscow Horde !!
+1
@@freitheit-pl1067 4 Kuril Islands - Japan, Smalensk is Belarus, Crimea is Ukraine !
... Królewiec is polish, karelia and Ingria is Finnish; Chechenya, Idel-Ural, Syberia etc. are free!
@@eugenlitwin5887 🤡🤡
I'm from Khabarovsk! we are not fighting for independence! do not lie!! we are fighting for our governor
4 Kuril Islands - Japan, Smalensk is Belarus, Crimea is Ukraine !
Nope all kf them are russia, i have history, logic and ethnic composition on my side what do you have ?
@@Silver_Prussian Kiev and US lies.