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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
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  • @CallMeEzekiel
    @CallMeEzekiel  2 года назад +181

    *💬Bonus Reading Below: Nestor Makhno and the Jews (and the Mennonites)*
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    *💬Bonus Reading: Nestor Makhno and the Jews (and the Mennonites) -* Something I couldn’t get into the video was Makhno’s approach to dealing with Ukraine’s various ethnic conflicts. The country had always had a long and brutal history of antisemitism. Ukrainian leaders of the Russian Civil War (including Petliura and Grigor’ev) saw no reason to change this and, like their ancestors, harassed and organized pogroms against Ukraine’s Jews. This made Nestor Makhno totally unique among his contemporaries because he was completely opposed to antisemitism. He punished his men whenever they targeted Jews and was happy to recruit them into the Black Army.
    A group with which Makhno had much worse relations was the Mennonites - German settlers from the time of Catherine the Great. When the Germans occupied Ukraine, they formed militias and fought against Makhno and other Ukrainian groups. This was in spite of the fact that they were officially pacifists. This turned all of Ukraine, including the Blacks, against the Mennonites. Fighting was frequent and there are reports claiming that, after the capture of Berdyansk, the Black Army carried out pogroms against the Mennonite community in the area.

    • @SandeaterIV
      @SandeaterIV 2 года назад +1

      Helicopter 🚁

    • @ryanfarrelly4647
      @ryanfarrelly4647 2 года назад +3

      Belgium (when they had no government for a long time)

    • @Munchkino
      @Munchkino 2 года назад +2

      I've gotta make a meme about this.

    • @benjamintin136
      @benjamintin136 2 года назад +4

      My family on my mother's side was made up of Mennonites. According to my great-grandpa, who was a child during the civil war, the black army was the greatest danger to his village. Almost all of the neighboring ones had been raided by Makhno, and there was constant fear that they'd be hit next. Great-grandpa said that his father bought a rifle just so he could protect his family in case Bat'ko Makhno ever decided that their village was next.
      Out of all the armies that passed through, Wrangel's White Army was the only one that showed any kind of sympathy for my family, and they were happy to come under his protection during his rule over Crimea and Torreda.

    • @jas1007
      @jas1007 2 года назад +7

      I'm glad you mentioned it here, because his anti-antisemetism is another interesting aspect to his character. I did not know about the mennonite stuff though.

  • @sansinator0889
    @sansinator0889 Год назад +460

    >Be Anarchist
    >Be relatively good at fighting
    >Align with Moscow
    >Die
    Happened in spain and Ukraine

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 Год назад +34

      >Be anarchist
      >Compete in a lifelong Don't Read History competition
      >Lead in the competition
      >Regurgitate falsehoods that are handed down based on zero facts
      Happens on the internet all the time

    • @callidusvulpes5556
      @callidusvulpes5556 7 месяцев назад +52

      @@jessl1934 I imagine you haven't read much history on anarchist nations.

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 7 месяцев назад +7

      @@callidusvulpes5556 Go ahead then, take your pick. You'd be surprised.

    • @tezismith8795
      @tezismith8795 7 месяцев назад

      Kenyan anarchism @@jessl1934

    • @callidusvulpes5556
      @callidusvulpes5556 7 месяцев назад +25

      @@jessl1934 Of the anarchist nations that have come about they've all been destroyed due to outside forces specifically the USSR as the Soviet leadership hated nothing more than communists that didn't advocate for authoritarianism as the means to achieve it. Revolutionary Catalonia and Makhnovia were both destroyed by them for instance and you'll struggle to find studies indicating they were failing in any sense other than militarily due to overwhelming amounts of enemies, quite the opposite actually they were achieving both higher growth rates than capitalist war time economies and were actually able to secure gains from that growth rather than inefficiently just plugging in tons of inputs to try and meet ridiculous output demands.

  • @theyakamoz1
    @theyakamoz1 2 года назад +880

    Do one on Green Ukraine and the rest of the Green Armies, or maybe the Japanese during the Russian Civil War. Or maybe other separatists or even Germany during it.

    • @ryanfarrelly4647
      @ryanfarrelly4647 2 года назад +18

      Wasn't GU around Vladvistok (sorry if wrong spelling)/Outer Manchuria

    • @MrPeterPan
      @MrPeterPan 2 года назад +11

      @@ryanfarrelly4647 Vladivostok. Yes they were theee

    • @theyakamoz1
      @theyakamoz1 2 года назад +4

      @Chase Williams I could be wrong but I think they took over some of Siberia like Vladivostok.

    • @bossbeartherock6034
      @bossbeartherock6034 2 года назад

      The bloody Baron and the us invasion of the northwest

    • @dimanyak373
      @dimanyak373 2 года назад +7

      Green Ukraine wasn't one of the Green Armies, it was a nationalist movement of Ukrainians in Siberia

  • @uamaz5615
    @uamaz5615 2 года назад +464

    One thing that should be noted is that Grigori'ev was a typical warlord and did not represent the whole Ukrainian People's Republic. He had switched time several times over (first joining the UPR, than defecting to the Soviets and then starting an anti-soviet revolt then planning to join the Whites). The UPR was called nationalist mostly by soviet propaganda, when in fact it was overwhelmingly socialists, but seeking separation from Russia.

    • @BIGESTblade
      @BIGESTblade 2 года назад

      'Course he didn't. Because UPR had nothing to do with Machno and his men. You can cut it how you like, but it was nationalistic regardless of its ideology, moreover their ideology changed several times. At the start maybe it was socialist, nobody really knows for sure. Later, during the Htemanate is certainly wasn't. The only thing they would've all agreed on is that Ukraine must be free and Russians are to be shot dead.

    • @Project_Amirani
      @Project_Amirani 2 года назад +19

      UPR was social-democratic not socialist. And yes it was nationalist also, because it wanted separation form Russia. That is literally definiton of nationalism that you want suvereign state with ethnically "correct" people in the head. Whyle socialist were are and will always be internationalists.

    • @uamaz5615
      @uamaz5615 2 года назад +36

      @@Project_Amirani UPR at first tried to negotiate for wide autonomy inside Russia, but only after a refusal and the October revolution soon after did it declare independence. And what do you mean ethnically "correct" people? While there were instances of pogroms by warlords the UPR never endorsed any killing or displacement of any nationalities.

    • @Project_Amirani
      @Project_Amirani 2 года назад +2

      @@uamaz5615 I mean that they wanted Ukrainians to govern suvereign Ukraine, thinking that ukrainain bourgeois parties will look after Ukraine and it's people better than russian ones and will not robb it in their own private interest. Well in USSR ukraine was governed by Ukrianians too and they had representatives in council of nationalities (and way more developed economy and culture) but still.

    • @uamaz5615
      @uamaz5615 2 года назад +42

      @@Project_Amirani Well you must remember that the Russians were "efficiently governing" (assimilating) them for 300 years, so they had a very good reason to be suspicious. And the process of promoting Ukrainian culture and language was started only after the end of the civil war, and rolled back very quickly when the risk of revolt has passed. After that there was russification, expropriation and a lot of purges, so I think UPR had the right idea.

  • @E-Brightvoid
    @E-Brightvoid Год назад +130

    And people wonder why anarchists have zero faith in communists.

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 Год назад +5

      Maybe Makhno shouldn't have betrayed the Bolsheviks and his army wouldn't have gotten clapped.

    • @koliadazt236
      @koliadazt236 8 месяцев назад +54

      ​@@jessl1934and where did he betray? With his partisan actions he stopped Denikin’s army, which was rushing to Moscow and could destroy the Bolsheviks, then, together with the Bolsheviks, he defeated the black baron Wrangel in the Crimea, and after all this help (when there were no strong enemies left) Makhno was suddenly declared a traitor and Destroy, don’t you think this is a setup?

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 8 месяцев назад

      @@koliadazt236 When he commanded his secret police to summarily execute former Bolshevik commanders who defected to the Black Army (extremely anarchist of him to be judge, jury, and executioner like that - and Arshinov would agree.)
      When he sought to suppress domestic Bolshevik printing presses in Ukraine (free speech for me, not for thee!)
      When he set up terror cells in the Soviet Union.
      There's also matters of his military command which, in my opinion, are questionable at points but that is an extremely complicated matter to discuss and draw conclusions from and the RUclips comments section is just about the worst place to have an earnest discussion about it and to share/dispute sources and competing accounts of Black Army movements during that period so I'm going to give this particular topic a hard pass.

    • @SubvertTheState
      @SubvertTheState 4 месяца назад

      ​@@koliadazt236 Objective perspectives based on evidence and reason do not matter to the type of person who has a desire to control/rule over others. Often they'll come up with reasons which lower the guard of the public, but it's simply a utility to acquire power.
      The Bolsheviks would murder any other faction, even if it was a perfectly ideal communist faction. Because it's not about what's right or wrong, ideologically sound or not. It's about direct control, assured through fear and the threat of violence.

    • @akyawzayya
      @akyawzayya 3 месяца назад

      @@jessl1934 TYPICAL LEFTARD

  • @quartztemplar3676
    @quartztemplar3676 Год назад +227

    Looking up Makhnovschina history without crying challenge (impossible)

  • @Ritterkreuz
    @Ritterkreuz 2 года назад +406

    I would love to see more videos about the Spanish Civil War. Great video nonetheless, keep up the good work!

  • @ashen1921
    @ashen1921 2 года назад +251

    A firefight didn’t breakout, and while Grigoriev did seek some of things that was relatively private, not in front of 20,000 people. Grigoriev was shot by Makhno after creating a banner that claimed “Death to Jews, long live anarchy, and long live Makhno” after being asked if he had made the standard or not.

    • @ikengaspirit3063
      @ikengaspirit3063 2 года назад +25

      so makhno assassinated d guy

    • @user-xz1ck1hc1m
      @user-xz1ck1hc1m 2 года назад +17

      I heard that he burned his agitator when he writed a pro-makhnovist poster, but with Inscription «Beat the Jews”

    • @NamorleCanarky
      @NamorleCanarky 2 года назад

      @@ikengaspirit3063 more like executed

    • @YourLocalAntifascist
      @YourLocalAntifascist Год назад

      One reason more that guy was based.
      Fuck Antisemitism.

    • @ssach7
      @ssach7 Год назад +56

      @@ikengaspirit3063 No, he killed an antisemite

  • @nathanseper8738
    @nathanseper8738 2 года назад +762

    I consider the betrayal of the Ukrainian anarchists to be one of the great tragedies of history. Who knows if their experiment in governance could've worked? Thank you for covering this sadly forgotten chapter in history.

    • @HistoryMonarch1999
      @HistoryMonarch1999 2 года назад +137

      So far they seem to be doing alright for the Zapatistas and Kurds, probably a little updated too.

    • @Munchkino
      @Munchkino 2 года назад

      Anarkiddie detected

    • @sven1966
      @sven1966 2 года назад +104

      It would’ve never worked

    • @nathanseper8738
      @nathanseper8738 2 года назад +22

      @@HistoryMonarch1999 I was really upset by that too!

    • @hitokiriizo
      @hitokiriizo 2 года назад +32

      CHAZ/CHOP says no.

  • @StrudelerOfTheTSociety
    @StrudelerOfTheTSociety 2 года назад +72

    I made a Makhno leader for Ukraine in Civ VI a few months ago. Really cool trying to add an anarchist civilization.

    • @TheLostArchangel666
      @TheLostArchangel666 2 года назад +13

      Consider making a CNT-FAI based mod too? Perhaps a Zapatista one? (There was a Zapatista mod in civ 5...)

    • @StrudelerOfTheTSociety
      @StrudelerOfTheTSociety 2 года назад +9

      @@TheLostArchangel666 I've got a lot of plans for the Hispanidad, just not enough time, unfortunately.

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 Год назад

      Did you establish a military secret police and commit acts of gen*cide too?

  • @magicaljohn1499
    @magicaljohn1499 2 года назад +107

    Something about Central Asia during the civil war would be cool (Enver Pasha, the Basmachi Movement)

    • @averagebohemian5791
      @averagebohemian5791 2 года назад +5

      True!!!!

    • @extrahistory8956
      @extrahistory8956 2 года назад +5

      The Jadids, Emirates of Kiva and Bukhara, Basmachi, etc have really interesting histories.

    • @Nick-vn3kg
      @Nick-vn3kg 2 года назад +1

      Jadidism vs Kadimism would be interesting so cover

    • @xianxiaemperor1438
      @xianxiaemperor1438 2 года назад +1

      The Basmachi are interesting tbh

    • @lorefox201
      @lorefox201 2 года назад

      swords of paradise is a good read, one of the main inspirations behind Dune

  • @AFlyingG3rman
    @AFlyingG3rman 2 года назад +170

    Your Russian civil war series has been amazing! Keep up the good content

  • @Inoffensive_name
    @Inoffensive_name 2 года назад +165

    One of the most amazing and overlooked historical events ever. What could've been if the Anarchists liberated Ukraine...

    • @therealjoediaz
      @therealjoediaz 2 года назад +48

      Ukraine would’ve completely collapsed lol

    • @Inoffensive_name
      @Inoffensive_name 2 года назад +89

      @@therealjoediaz And in its place, hundreds of self-organized communities would've sprung up, fully in control of their cities and towns, rather than at the mercy of the incompetence of state, national, and international institutions.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 2 года назад +55

      And then they would have all been defeated in detail by the nearest state of any note, or by the most powerful one amongst them, probably Cossacks. It would literally be a repeat of the consolidation of Russia under Moscow, and the smaller the communities the bigger push overs they would be, such a disorganised, disunited and feeble structure is literally the conditions for a good source of slaves throughout most of history.

    • @MrPeterPan
      @MrPeterPan 2 года назад +4

      @@Inoffensive_name the ussr brought Ukraine up and made it a industrial power

    • @ManMan-xq8jh
      @ManMan-xq8jh 2 года назад +59

      @@MrPeterPan And then burned it all down while retreating to Moscow

  • @AndyKaknes
    @AndyKaknes 2 года назад +41

    For anyone interested in reading about The Ukrainian Black Army & Nestor Makno, Moorhead State College Professor Dr. Victor Peters wrote a book in 1970 titled: Nestor Makhno - The Life of an Anarchist. It's surely worth reading...

  • @alexnitaly764
    @alexnitaly764 Год назад +11

    If only Makhno didn't ally with the damned Bolsheviks.

  • @maksymkashchuk5420
    @maksymkashchuk5420 2 года назад +16

    During that period also were Black Zaporozhians, they had guerrilla tactic after bolsheviks win and even established short lived Kholodny Yar Republic. Their motto was "Ukraine or death" or "Freedom of Ukraine or death"

  • @Greatermememan
    @Greatermememan 2 года назад +105

    As you addressed an ancom society it would be excellent to see your take on Cospia. Excellent video man, keep up the good work.

  • @WatermelonVodka69
    @WatermelonVodka69 2 года назад +102

    1 thing to note: Makhno's ideology was not typical Anarcho-communism. It was called Platformism: basically a leftist version of Minarchism with a sort-of government that has little influence on the land other than preventing states from rising up in the commune and distributing land.

    • @izvinic2362
      @izvinic2362 2 года назад +47

      actually Platformism was born later from the association of Russian anarchists in France, which Makhno was part of, the Free Territory wasn't Platformist, but the army specifically was taken as a model for the defence skeleton of Platformism

    • @hant_blue_habsbourg_bonapa9192
      @hant_blue_habsbourg_bonapa9192 2 года назад +12

      This is not a "minarchy" just a centralised democracy for coordonate war efforts

    • @WatermelonVodka69
      @WatermelonVodka69 2 года назад +1

      @@hant_blue_habsbourg_bonapa9192 Yes

    • @creativename979
      @creativename979 2 года назад +18

      That's not what platformism is at all. Platformism is, essentially, a form of anarchist praxis that rejects "leftist unity" and advocates for federations of specifically anarchist organizations that are united around a agreement on a core platform, to minimize infighting and prevent authoritarian cooption. It has nothing to do with the organization of a post-revolution society. It was invented by Makhno and others *after* the Russian Civil War, partly influenced by the Bolshevik's betrayal of the Anarchists.
      Your characterization of platformism isn't even within a mile of the truth. If you dropped a Tsar Bomba on actual Platformism, your description wouldn't even feel the shockwave. Makhno was a committed Anarchist-Communist, Platformism was a type of praxis for achieving Anarchist-Communism that Makhno & co. developed after the war, not a "leftist version of Minarchism". This leaves me with an important question: where the fuck did you get your idea of platformism from?

    • @creativename979
      @creativename979 2 года назад

      @@hant_blue_habsbourg_bonapa9192 That is also incorrect. Read my other comment.

  • @American-Orthodox-Christian
    @American-Orthodox-Christian 2 года назад +13

    Based anarchist

  • @jebremocampo9194
    @jebremocampo9194 2 года назад +26

    Recent fan. Glad I stumbled across your channel. Really liked your anarchist videos

  • @thenamesianna
    @thenamesianna 2 года назад +48

    Now I want to watch a movie on the Ukrainan Black Army

    • @DerDrako
      @DerDrako 2 года назад +21

      There is a russian TV-Show called "Nine lives of Nestor Machno".

    • @typicaluser697
      @typicaluser697 4 месяца назад +3

      ​@@DerDrakoyeah, I don't think russian tv about ukrainian is gonna be unbiased

    • @DerDrako
      @DerDrako 4 месяца назад +2

      @@typicaluser697 Technicly you are right. But it does not matter much in this case.

  • @jath2540
    @jath2540 2 года назад +11

    Literally just yesterday I was thinking about you making a video about the Free territory. What a good day!

  • @ILikeDreamcoreEyes
    @ILikeDreamcoreEyes Год назад +11

    I would’ve been in the black army if it existed when we lived 🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴

    • @GeneralBongmeister
      @GeneralBongmeister Год назад +2

      Actually it was hard to get in, you would have to get in a certain ime when they had enough resources

    • @ILikeDreamcoreEyes
      @ILikeDreamcoreEyes Год назад

      @@GeneralBongmeister true.

  • @otto_von_garfield
    @otto_von_garfield 2 года назад +23

    I would recommend doing a video/videos on the dissolution of Austria-Hungary and the chaos that ensued.

  • @krampusx9784
    @krampusx9784 Год назад +17

    Notice how it said the anarchists lost morale when they were well-fed under the Reds. This shows how food comes before politics.

  • @Burgerinc66
    @Burgerinc66 2 года назад +18

    Great job on this

  • @msmith1890
    @msmith1890 2 года назад +22

    Mother Anarchy loves her sons. Another great video.

  • @catboynestormakhno2694
    @catboynestormakhno2694 2 года назад +13

    No gods, no masters

    • @dclark142002
      @dclark142002 2 года назад +1

      ...then why did Mahkno kill the dissenting voices in his army?
      Sounds a lot like Mahkno was the master...

    • @catboynestormakhno2694
      @catboynestormakhno2694 2 года назад

      @@dclark142002 you mean the antisemetics who did pogroms, yeah id kill them too if they were in an army, almost like antisemetic pogroms is against the ideals of anarchism

    • @Yekatanarchist
      @Yekatanarchist 2 года назад +7

      @@dclark142002 You havent read his book have you. He killed those that betrayed him or caused harm to the ukranian farmers

  • @napoleonbonaparte4776
    @napoleonbonaparte4776 2 года назад +21

    Still waiting for Napoleon III
    If it MUST be a book:
    - the shadow emperor
    - memoirs of dr. Evans

  • @jj-uy6qs
    @jj-uy6qs Год назад +8

    Nice video and introduction to a great person. His essays are well worth a read. i would love ro see a video on the anarchist societies in Korea that were around a bit later than this.

  • @teenageriot8251
    @teenageriot8251 Год назад +7

    🎶 Anarchia mama 🎶

  • @vladislavsulimenko5276
    @vladislavsulimenko5276 2 года назад +8

    I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOREVER FOR THIS

  • @emilianorios4761
    @emilianorios4761 2 года назад +9

    Nice background music

  • @sassoy3370
    @sassoy3370 2 года назад +7

    Enjoyed the background music

  • @metaclownfish5921
    @metaclownfish5921 8 месяцев назад +5

    Mother Anarchy Loves Her Sons

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 4 месяца назад

      *except for Mennonites

  • @Atabey381
    @Atabey381 2 года назад +16

    Russian Civil War Indeed Is A Very Interesting Topic.

  • @marcustonon4775
    @marcustonon4775 2 года назад +15

    mother anarchy really loves her sons

  • @St4r_Lord
    @St4r_Lord Год назад +5

    Makhno 🍷🗿

  • @twotrucks5263
    @twotrucks5263 Год назад +15

    Mother Anarchy loves her sons! 🇺🇦 🇺🇦

  • @kombokil
    @kombokil Год назад +16

    Today is birthday of Nestor Mahno (8 November 1888). Happy Birthday Nestor! (A)

  • @yakov95000
    @yakov95000 Год назад +4

    Great man Makhno

  • @UwU-xk5cx
    @UwU-xk5cx 8 месяцев назад +14

    "It was here, in Ukraine, where the most successful modern anarchist society was formed"
    Spain: And I took that personally

  • @engineer_429
    @engineer_429 2 года назад +12

    This guy always makes incredible videos

  • @cranky5095
    @cranky5095 Год назад +5

    Kinda ironic that Ukrainian Nationalists like Makhno given the history.

    • @yakov95000
      @yakov95000 Год назад +1

      I mean it is not that ironic when you take into account other Ukrainian heroes or if you read what Nestor wrote in his late life in France,he had more complicated relationship with Nationalists(he was willing to corporate with Ukrainian Nationalists and others in Ukraine to some extent),he did defend the Ukrainians against The Russian forces(White and Reds)who were abusing them as just another province,he was undoubtedly a brave,innovative and great military leader(and good ruler)without the hate of ethnic background(he was one of the few non antisemitic leaders at the time in Russian Civil war).Last thing and maybe the most important I think,is that culturally and geographically his state was basically the latest version of the Zaporozhyian Cossack in all but name even having nickname batka,Zaporozhyian Cossacks are the basis for Ukrainian Nationalists even if they don't like everything(and they don't)he at very least looked like Ukrainian hero who was wrong in his judgment,btw not the only one in Ukrainian's history.

    • @user-fb7mz6gc7q
      @user-fb7mz6gc7q Год назад

      He was hero of our people, not nation. He definitely one of persons in history and everyone have different opinion about him.

  • @sirnilsolav6646
    @sirnilsolav6646 Год назад +13

    Honestly, this seems like a very romanticised picture of Nestor Makhno. You don't tell of any of the atrocities he and his men committed.
    Peasants would tell stories of how during Makhno's baptism, the priest's clothing caught fire and how he was going to be the Anti-Christ.
    One story tells of the village Steinbach and how a man, Epp, had found the entire village murdered by Makhno's men. If you're sensitive to atrocities, you should not read what I am about to quote.
    He says:
    "Here I saw a scene of indescribable horror that I will never forget as long as I live. Mrs Hildebrandt lay in the small bedroom just inside the door to the corner room, completely unclothed. One of her arms had been chopped off and lay on the floor in the middle of the room. Her youngest baby lay dead in the cradle. It's neck hacked off. The woman was one of those who had been raped, before or after her murder."
    This is just one of many of the atrocities Makhno's men committed. For sure, his men were not the only ones who plundered, murdered and raped, that was common, to varying degrees, among all of the different parties fighting in Ukraine, but his reputation for it should bear mention.
    I'm sorry, but I had to say this because you say words like "unfortunately" and seem excited at the idea of hearing what an anarchist society might have looked like, but you don't tell of the cost and horror from it.

    • @czescjestemztefan2562
      @czescjestemztefan2562 Год назад +15

      oh man. literally the entire thing u just wrote was based on a story of one village thats not even in ukraine. and obv its this pfp. ujust mad than lib-cap never happened, arent u?

    • @sirnilsolav6646
      @sirnilsolav6646 Год назад +8

      @@czescjestemztefan2562
      Doesn’t matter if it took place in Ukraine or not. It was committed by Makhno and his men. To romanticise about these revolutionaries, portraying them as heroes and not talk about any of the atrocities they committed is the point of my comment.
      That it happened in Russia and not Ukraine is besides the point.

    • @dragomiruzelac2227
      @dragomiruzelac2227 Год назад +1

      @@sirnilsolav6646 Ne seri, pičketino glupa.

    • @KS-bo5bg
      @KS-bo5bg Год назад +1

      What lying rot. Mahkno executed rapists among his ranks. Meanwhile the Bolsheviks were notoriously rapacious, and killed so many civilians. In addition they pogromed lots of Jews.

    • @sirnilsolav6646
      @sirnilsolav6646 Год назад +5

      @@KS-bo5bg
      If that’s true, it’s interesting how an anarchist became very authoritarian and demanded discipline amongst his ranks.
      Either way, I think that these things should be adressed in the video

  • @xleplex7070
    @xleplex7070 2 года назад +3

    I’ve been waiting for this video for so long I’m so glad that’s it’s finally out!

  • @Arturino_Burachelini
    @Arturino_Burachelini 2 года назад +5

    Too bad Makhno did not know about Böhm-Bawerk.
    Now the russo-Ukrainian front lays through Huliaipole

  • @tovarishmausedits18
    @tovarishmausedits18 2 года назад +4

    Mother anarchy loves her sons!

  • @seanspindleshanks2529
    @seanspindleshanks2529 2 года назад +3

    12:42 if that's about a video on Finland and Mannerheim, then count me excited

  • @outerspace7391
    @outerspace7391 Год назад +8

    The alliances in this video in a nutshell;
    team A; hey, i hate you, but team C is approaching
    team B; I agree, lets unite our forces
    team A hey actually screw you
    team B; what?? ok war it is
    team A; shit thats actually hard. Come on team C we've got a job to do
    team C; alright fine
    team A; no, screw that as well, thats getting nowhere
    team D; tell me about it
    team A; hm... how about we cooperate just for this one time?
    team D; ok lets do it
    team A; ok that did go well, now f off
    team D; dammit
    team C; great, now i can finally end you
    team A; uh oh... team B? just for this one?
    team B; no need to tell me twice
    and repeat

    • @radura3177
      @radura3177 5 месяцев назад

      Mai fidarsi dei fascisti rossi 🏴

  • @15098D
    @15098D 2 года назад +36

    I’d love to know more more about the Red Army side of the Civil War, seeing as you’ve done some videos for the other sides

  • @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642
    @bvthebalkananarchistmapper5642 2 года назад +8

    so sad it failed in the end.

  • @zurupup1
    @zurupup1 2 года назад +12

    Thanks!

  • @dilisfola1864
    @dilisfola1864 2 года назад +10

    Love your content could u consider a video on ireland?

  • @jimnicholas7334
    @jimnicholas7334 2 года назад +9

    It'd be really interesting to have seen it suceed because I don't know how they would've managed their economy without the price system

  • @hm-ux7lt
    @hm-ux7lt 2 года назад +3

    Its a good day when ezekiel uploads

  • @PugkinSoup
    @PugkinSoup 2 года назад +2

    Oooh more channels I can binge. Great video

  • @amongdrip8073
    @amongdrip8073 6 месяцев назад +2

    As much as I think anarchy is an incredibly stupid and counterintuitive ideology, its never fun to be exiled from your homeland, the most nominal of sympathies I issue to Makhno and his Men.

    • @itsathing3369
      @itsathing3369 5 месяцев назад +1

      It might be stupid, it might be optimistic, but for that short time when there was an anarchist Society in Ukraine, it functioned brilliantly, except the government had an actual army, so it was easy to overflow them.

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 4 месяца назад

      ​@@itsathing3369How do you feel about the Makhnovist economic policies?
      What do you think about their capacity to maintain critical infrastructure?
      The anarchists under Makhno functioned well at committing genocide though, I'll give them that.

    • @itsathing3369
      @itsathing3369 4 месяца назад

      @@jessl1934 you are right about the committing genocide part, but to be fair, they were a part of a Civil War, The Red Army Versus The White Army Versus The Black Army, also, there was no economic plan, because communism is simply the absence of economics.
      (Edit: sorry, there are some stuff in this comment that repeats itself, I’m terrible at writing long things. Please forgive me for this inconvenience, also, I got some stuff wrong about communism, because I was drunk when I wrote this. Although the majority of this comment is mostly accurate.)
      Also, I’m not really a big fan of him anymore, he’s a Vanguard anarchist, which means there’s a military hierarchy, and an anarchy you’re supposed to reject the majority of hierarchies, I guess he thought it was one of those hierarchies, that anarchist didn’t mind.
      Also, I’m glad glad you asked this infrastructure question, because it’s very interesting in my opinion:
      So, that argument kind of implies that the only reason why humans have work, or repair things, is because they are getting paid to do so, this is not true, millions of people work and repair things, all of the time without getting paid.
      People volunteer to help Repair, crumbling buildings all of the time.
      It’s just that in an anarchist society, people don’t need to work in order to live, they should still work, because if they don’t work, then bad things happen, but your livelihood does not depend on how much you work, unlike in a capitalist society,
      But in a capitalist society, your managers get the benefit of your hard work, they get the money that you need to survive, and you get a slight cut of the profit that you worked for, which is why people love worker unions.
      Also, he did not have any economic policies, because communism is just the absence of economics.
      “how do people get the food?” you might ask, again another interesting question, have you ever heard of food banks before? It’s basically a giant warehouse, with food inside, and if you need the food, you can go and take the food, and everyone operating a food bank is a volunteer. You should really look up food banks, they are interesting.
      “why would people want to work?” well some people are really passionate about their work, some people like being janitors, some people like chefs, others enjoy being farmers. Not every single person is a lazy bastard, who only work, so that they can feed themselves.
      nihilism is a helpful tool, but, nihilism isn’t always correct.
      it is true that greed is a part of evolution, but so is mutual-aid.
      “how would people get power?” again people would still work even without money, this applies to electric plants, however I think with the absence of money no one would work in a oil rig, because we all know that it’s bad.
      “how would people get the education to perform jobs?” just use the normal system, but there are no principles only teachers.
      PS, you are very right about the genocide part, but to be fair they were in the middle of a Civil War, so, in a war, you have to kill people, the red army, the white army they killed people.
      Capitalism was created by a colonialist, and colonialist committed genocide against indigenous people, is that a good argument against colonialism? No, not to say that anarchism and colonialism are comparable, but it’s the same argument.
      I would love to answer more of your questions, because no one on the Internet takes me seriously.

  • @Finch912
    @Finch912 7 месяцев назад +2

    I think the design for the anarchist balls could have been the flag of makhnovchina and the eyes of the skull is were the eyes would be

  • @roienjaune2110
    @roienjaune2110 2 года назад +5

    Good work
    I once again request an Ungern-Sternberg video good sire

  • @itshenry8977
    @itshenry8977 2 года назад +6

    Great video, Always thought what was that wierd anarchy state in ukraine

  • @King-me
    @King-me 2 года назад +5

    Great Video's

  • @diegoontour
    @diegoontour 2 года назад +2

    Yes! I was looking forward to this!

  • @moistman9773
    @moistman9773 2 года назад +8

    Can’ wait for black army part 2

  • @AdrianBoyko
    @AdrianBoyko День назад

    Makhno: Ideologically despised nationalism.
    Ezekiel: Represents Makhno as a ball with Ukraine’s national colors.

  • @yushka1917
    @yushka1917 2 года назад +13

    Apparently "creating a successfull anarchist society" is when you engange in free market trade with foreign powers

    • @mayhemamigos4766
      @mayhemamigos4766 Год назад +1

      Anarchism isn’t opposed to free trade, it is opposed to capitalism, the institution under which whoever’s generate value for a business, which is claimed by the employer, with only a fraction of said value being returned as wages. Socialism calls for businesses to be owned by the workers, run democratically, with profits being democratically distributed.

    • @mariano98ify
      @mariano98ify Год назад

      ​@@mayhemamigos4766 LMAO, lame at the long run the politic doesn't work because business and owners don't have enough money to invest in more business or shareholders ergo increasing the economy.

  • @mariaginabanzer
    @mariaginabanzer 2 года назад +3

    Countryballs teaching me more than school

  • @tubsymcghee7169
    @tubsymcghee7169 Год назад +4

    Books about the Makhnovists I would recommend : The History of the Makhnovist Movement by Peter Arshinov, Nestor Makhno : Anarchy's Cossack by Alexandre Skirda and the Unknown Revolution by Voline.

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 4 месяца назад

      Add Kontrrazvedka by Azarov to that list lol

  • @SmashingCapital
    @SmashingCapital Год назад +20

    Not an anarchist but i would support an ideal anarchist revolution any day

    • @poisonousbadge126
      @poisonousbadge126 9 месяцев назад +3

      seems like u are acordding to ur pfp

    • @SmashingCapital
      @SmashingCapital 9 месяцев назад

      @@poisonousbadge126 ?

    • @poisonousbadge126
      @poisonousbadge126 9 месяцев назад

      @@SmashingCapital anarchy communist, black and red, whilst ur name is smashing capital

    • @SmashingCapital
      @SmashingCapital 9 месяцев назад

      @@poisonousbadge126 the flag is solely red

  • @baileygregory9192
    @baileygregory9192 2 года назад +3

    I can't wait for the video on the Friekorp and Sparticus revolt

  • @nikolaysokolnikov2677
    @nikolaysokolnikov2677 2 года назад +20

    6:18 Stating that "everyone in Ukraine hated the whites" is unlikely since after 1918 80% of white army consisted of ukranians. And some of the most known white generals such as Drozdovskiy, Romanovskiy and Lukomskiy came from Ukraine. Kiev was a concentration of pro-white activists, that's the reason it was ruthlessly massacred by Petliura in 1917-1918.

  • @snuzzleberry8579
    @snuzzleberry8579 2 года назад +4

    Love your content dude keep it up!

  • @user-vq7rr4sh2h
    @user-vq7rr4sh2h Год назад +3

    Makhno should’ve requested help from the Entente or even the Weimar Republic and play both the Allies and the Soviets against each other.

    • @hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095
      @hildegunstvonmythenmetz6095 9 месяцев назад +2

      I don‘t think the entente would have supported Makhno. The Weimar Republic DEFINITELY wouldn‘t have, because of the whole Spartacist thing.

    • @DreerKarler
      @DreerKarler 4 месяца назад

      at the later stages of the war the entente barely even supported the nationalists so why would they support other communists?

  • @ald6481
    @ald6481 2 года назад +1

    LETS GO I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONEE

  • @Miron_Marnic
    @Miron_Marnic 2 года назад +4

    Rest in peace, my idol.

  • @laurenceskinnerton73
    @laurenceskinnerton73 11 месяцев назад +2

    Ukraine could have become independent if the situation had worked in their favour.

  • @thinstep4488
    @thinstep4488 2 года назад +2

    Very good video, high effort. Love it!

  • @nikolaiunzucced507
    @nikolaiunzucced507 2 года назад +4

    Do one for Ungern-Sternberg

  • @mainegroyper904
    @mainegroyper904 Год назад +2

    you should do a video on the OUN/UPA

    • @jessl1934
      @jessl1934 Год назад +3

      It would be great just to do a whole episode on the assassination of Bandera. I'd watch that on repeat.
      What an unfathomably based moment in Eastern European history.
      💁‍♂️💨💀

  • @maitre_jx
    @maitre_jx 2 года назад +3

    well a good new video about anarchism

  • @akramgimmini8165
    @akramgimmini8165 2 года назад +1

    I have waited for this
    Amazing video as espected 👌

  • @toshae4249
    @toshae4249 2 года назад +4

    part 2 plz

  • @guyfromtheplaceshown3690
    @guyfromtheplaceshown3690 Год назад +7

    Thank you Ezekial, I had been interested in History before, but whenever I would try and read any book I'd struggle to pay attention and get truly invested into them. That was until watching your video on Pyotr Wrangel, and then I bought Always With Honour, now I am 135 pages into it reading a little every day, and I look-see in every book store I can.
    Also I have watched a lot of your videos particularly around the general chaos of the Eastern Front and its aftermath, where do you get all your information?
    P.S. Do you think Pyotr Wrangel is similar to William Marshall?

  • @stevetheheadcrab7110
    @stevetheheadcrab7110 2 года назад +9

    Mother anarchy loves her sons

  • @ThatAutisticCellist
    @ThatAutisticCellist 7 месяцев назад +3

    Finnish winter war and continuation war next?

    • @SenkaBandit
      @SenkaBandit 5 месяцев назад +2

      nice pfp, also he did them I think

    • @DreerKarler
      @DreerKarler 4 месяца назад +1

      already done.

  • @griffinreed9005
    @griffinreed9005 2 года назад +8

    Great video however I must stress that Mariupol is pronounced (Marie-yu-pull). Other than that great work with your recent videos about the Russian Civil War

  • @scandited2763
    @scandited2763 2 года назад +2

    Nice! Will you make a video about Ukrainian campaigns into Crimea by Bolbochan or Ukraine’s People’s Republic itself?

  • @theseus0467
    @theseus0467 Месяц назад +1

    And there were no productive conversations in the comment seciton, theeeee end.

  • @dmman33
    @dmman33 2 года назад +7

    Soviets without Bolsheviks!

  • @guyguy7634
    @guyguy7634 2 года назад +3

    Do a video on the neo-zapitas

  • @Matthew-xu2yp
    @Matthew-xu2yp 2 года назад +2

    Good video Can you do a video on Russian mafia in Ussr

  • @parsananmon
    @parsananmon 2 года назад +3

    Please do Turkish independence war after finishing Russian civil war series

  • @guyfromtheplaceshown3690
    @guyfromtheplaceshown3690 2 года назад +2

    I think the next video has got to be Finland.

  • @walli6388
    @walli6388 2 года назад +2

    The art only gets better and better

  • @thomaswatson1739
    @thomaswatson1739 2 года назад +2

    Pls I beg you make one on Grigory Mikhaylovich Semyonov

  • @Briselance
    @Briselance Год назад +4

    12:15
    Securing their independence? Only because their potential and actual enemies were busy fighting amongst themselves, and also either way past or way before their peak strength: the USSR was still in its infancy and its power was still hotly and bitterly contested, while the Tsarists/White Russians were on the decline while still posing a threat to be reckoned with, and the Ukrainian Nationalists were also in there.
    Against the German and Austro-Hungarian Empires up until 1917, 1918, the Anarchists were simply nothing.
    Also, managing to create a few schools and workshops in isolated cities is one thing, but whipping it all up into something lasting, cohesive, coherent, and efficient on a nation-wide level is something they just couldn't do: their very tenet is the absence of structured power.
    In this case, without external help, against an organised, disciplined, competent enemy, they are just doomed to fail.

  • @BeeButBased
    @BeeButBased 2 года назад +4

    I wanna be a history teacher one day so when one day im lazy i can just play your videos like how science teachers play bill nye

  • @Nikol-A
    @Nikol-A Год назад +4

    Mother anarchy✊🏼🏴‍☠️

  • @barbara1126
    @barbara1126 2 года назад +3

    could you do the russo-japanese war or the winter war?

  • @wiizzpl4718
    @wiizzpl4718 2 года назад +13

    Nothing says anarchy more than requsitioning for military needs :P

    • @Miron_Marnic
      @Miron_Marnic 2 года назад +1

      They took weapons from their enemies. They protected people from requsitioning by the Reds.

    • @wiizzpl4718
      @wiizzpl4718 2 года назад +3

      @@Miron_Marnic 7:48
      "This lighting advance was made possible by requisitioning *fresh horses* en route"

    • @Miron_Marnic
      @Miron_Marnic 2 года назад

      @@wiizzpl4718 "They started infighting again. It was because the Bolsheviks tried to forcibly take food out of Ukraine. When Makhno stopped their grain requisitiong detachments, tensions flared."

    • @wiizzpl4718
      @wiizzpl4718 2 года назад +3

      @@Miron_Marnic So it makes it okay for the black army to requisition horses because the reds tried to requisition food?

    • @Miron_Marnic
      @Miron_Marnic 2 года назад

      @@wiizzpl4718 Yes, because the Reds not only stole food, but also killed, tortured, and imprisoned millions. Black army had lots of support among local populace. And I don't know what you would do, but I would prefer the Blacks taking my horses over the Reds making me starving and possibly killing me. Also, EVERYONE requisitioned stuff in this war.