Hidden Ukraines Inside Russia?
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- What if I told you there could've been other Ukrainian states on the world map today. Well, in wake of the Russian Revolution and start of the Russian Civil War, Ukrainians from all over Eurasia made a push - in varying degrees - for self-determination. Nearby modern Ukraine, the Kuban People's Republic sprang into being, while further east a WWI veteran became head of the Ukrainian Far Eastern Republic (aka Green Ukraine); perhaps less well-known are the stories of Grey Ukraine - located in what is now southern Siberia / northern Kazakhstan - and Yellow Ukraine - situated along the banks of the mighty Volga River.
While the ongoing struggle between Moscow and Kiev (Kyiv) in the Russo-Ukrainian War continues to dominate headlines, join us for this look into a mostly forgotten chapter of Russian, Cossack, and Ukrainian history.
#europe #ukraine #russia #history #eurasia #ghostcountries
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:49 Raspberry Ukraine and the Kuban People's Republic
04:21 Yellow Ukraine
05:05 Grey Ukraine
07:17 Green Ukraine
08:53 Outro
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SOURCES
Russian Empire Census (1897): archive.org/details/Statistic...
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Soviet Census (1926): www.demoscope.ru/weekly/ssp/ce...
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If you find all 4 easter egg Ukraines in real life you will get one free borsht. This is stated in UN law.
Pretty sure Infinity War just copy/pasted this! 😅
One free borsht. Wow what a reward.
@@jake-qn3tl nobody said what would be the size of that borscht
you find them and they all saying they're russians. no free borš' anymore bcs of small nations distinction
@@volodymyrkilchenko nowadays you'll only get an expired coupon for one free borsht sadly 😔
Also, the story of the Volga Germans would be really interesting to explore. Don't believe there were much of them left after WWII.
Oh, definitely; I’ve been thinking about doing some on the Volga Germans for a while...maybe the Volga German Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic or just a more general video.
@@GhostCountries definitely make a video on the Volga Germans! I believe my dads side was such!
It’s definitely an overlooked chapter of European/German/Russian history; so, it hits a lot of check marks and yeah, I’d personally like to know more about the Volga Germans’ story!
@@GhostCountries Well, they were invited to farm lands in the Russian empire, and did so. But when Canada’s prairie was the “last best best”; they went to such. They ended up in Saskatchewan and were baptized Lutherans. All in around ~1900(10)
most of Volga Germans were marked by Soviet authorities as "spies" and in fear of them supporting the Nazi Germany, authorities moved them far east.Most of them,matter of fact, were deported to Kazakhstan in Akmolinsk region where in 1980-1990 there were around 0.8-1.5 million germans living there.Most of them though started to repatriate after 1991 when Kazakhstan gained independence.
I’m mixed half and half Kazakh and Ukrainian and my ancestors came to Kazakhstan to Seryi Klin (grey Ukraine) 150 years ago. Thank you for highlighting the history of my family.
An ultimate breed. I kneel.
Hi bro! Are you half kazak or qozoq( Turkic nation in central Asia)
@@juanblanco7898 ultimate bullshitter 😂
Мне две в сырном
@@juanblanco7898 thank you but I’m not sure how to reply, you made me feel shy tbh.
One of my grand-grand mothers have been deported by soviets for being too wealthy. So she was deported close to China. City called Shimanovsk. Most of those people you are talking about were forced to move far east, leaving such a fertile land and moving to wild and harsh environment.
Охуительные истории подъехали
@@EkoFrankoохуительный урус подьехал
@@EkoFrankothat's true. Ohuitelnye oni y tebya.
Это те богатые украинцы, которые устроили голодомор для бедных украинцев?
I'm not sure if you paid enough attention but the video was about pre-revolution Ukrainian settlers (not those deported during bolshevik terror)
Ukraine across the Cossak-Verse
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I live in Kuban region for my whole life.
In our schools, we study the whole history of Kuban region and Kuban cossacks. It’s got its own subject. It names “Кубановедение” (Кубань - Kuban, ведение - studying)
So, every schoolboy (schoolgirl) from Kuban knows about “green Ukraine” (never heard this word combination before).
I know about repressions of Ukrainian and other nations people, but never knows about other Ukrainian republics, except Ukrainian and Kuban peoples republics.
Thx for info, bro
I’ll sub your channel
P.s. There may be grammatical mistakes. Not so good in English language
Oh, no problem whatsoever; glad we could shine a bit of light on a less well-known chapter of history. Actually, we’re planning to eventually do a proper episode on the Kuban People’s Republic at some point. So, it’s pretty cool to know one of our subscribers is actually from the region!
@@GhostCountries not one I’m also here. And I’ve made a content analysis of our Kuban studies (кубановедение) school book, and it’s so russified, russia is trying to make us forget who we are!!
@@RinaShabanov how can you be russified when you have always been russian
@@Silver_Prussian I have never been russian 🥴 can’t you tell by my appearance? 🙄
@@RinaShabanovnot all russian are blonde blue eyed but I get what you want to say
My great grandmother is a yellow ukrainian!! Thank you for sharing about this obscure group of ukrainians;)
I had heard of the Green Ukraine in the Revolution before, but the others are new info to me. Thank you for the education!
Thanks Tommy; yeah, our first episode on the channel actually was a more in-depth look into Green Ukraine (and the FER), but there was a lot more to the story!
@@GhostCountries As a resident of gray Ukraine - the territory of northern Kazakhstan. We consider ourselves Russian and rather for the war in Ukraine for the most part. Even we have many who want to return to Russia.
i knew gray ukraine,green ukraine and yellow ukraine already.
@@Kampotikgoogle translate detected. Also supporting war is gay
@@deucedwayne И что, что гугл транслейт?
As a Ukrainian, I really heard about "Yellow" and "Grey" of Ukraine for the first time. Sometimes it is interesting to think about the topic "what if...", knowing such pages of the history of one's own country.
@@sergeiivanovich6827 So I did not study in a Soviet school (fortunately). I already studied Ukrainian... and now I understand that I should have paid more attention to history lessons. I was a stupid kid.
As a malorussian idc
You should probably think "What if..." Ukraine survives as a state, not "What if..." parts of Russia were Ukrainian.
@@JamesSmith-ix5jdwell, ruzzia will be broken again lol
🦧@@FannaD
Actually, believe it or not, there's some sort of thing where there's a little Ukrainian State in Canada called White Ukraine. The flag is pretty much the same as Green and Grey Ukraine, but instead of it being Green or Gray on the flag, it's White. It's within the Provinces of Manitoba and Saskatchewan, as more Ukrainians live in the Prairies of Canada than in other Urban Areas to the East of them.
Ukraine is spreading!
and they did nothing wrong@@untje
Most Ukrainians in Canada came there before WWI even. They were ethnically Ukrainian but even in the censuses they put down their nationality as "austrian"@@untje
@@qwertyuiopasdfghj001Only were more brutal in killing jews than the Germans.
@@untjebut about the Vlasovites, they agreed in advance on the transfer and mass execution
The real Ukraines were the friends we made along the way.
Never friends to moskals
@@kaitopaterok nazi
You literally have the most roots with Russians, clown@@kaitopater
@@artemefimov8215Alright commie
There is also a large Ukrainian population in Western Canada.
White Ukraine)))
and will be largest soon
And also in Brazil and Central America.
Thoose are descendants of Ukro nazis and war criminals lol
Yes, but - unlike those who mentioned in the video - it's mostly descendants of ukrainians from Austro-Hungary.
Greetings from Kazakhstan! I am from the north (Qostanai), where Ukrainians are common.
Most of russians of northern Kazakhstan are assimilated Ukrainians in fact. People here talk with specific Ukrainian h sound instead of g, also we have some Ukrainian words here, even penetrating to Kazakh language
this is not the specifics of the ukrainian language, the south Russian dialect also has it
this is not actually specific to Ukraine, there are words in ukrainian language pronounced with "g" sound 🤓☝️
30% of russians in russia are Ukrainians
@@derevianne1108 г and ґ i get it, the thing is rural speakers talk like that (and sometimes I do it too unconsciously)
@@derevianne1108it is true though lol
Keep in mind that 1897 census didn't consider your ethnicity, only the language you speak (they called it dialect), and if you were literate (could read and write in russian, because writing and teaching in Ukrainian was forbidden) - you automatically were considered as russain speaker.
Hence, the actual number of ethic Ukrainians was much higher everywhere.
Where was it forbidden? Who forbade?
There was no Ukrainian language then. There was Polish and Russian.
Valuev circular
@@user-fy8nd6nz5wdirect written evidence of ukrainian language first appears in 16th century stop lying
@@user-fy8nd6nz5w
classic. There is no language, but the Tsar forbids its use.
Think about it😁
I just now realized how it happened that my great-grandfather is Ukrainian, with love from Tatarstan.
Мин хәзер генә, ничек килеп чыкканын аңладым, минем бабам Украин, Татарстаннан мәхәббәт белән.❤
with love from estonia)
Been trying to explain this to people since 2014. Thank you!
I never knew there were so many Ukraines!! Quite a varied and complicated history
Before doing work on the episode that jump started the channel (Green Ukraine), I didn't know about them either. Still, the amount of new information on the "other Ukraines" I discovered in while doing the episode was...well, more than I would've thought!
0:45 that wasn't "migration" That was deportation!
People migrated too.
Thanks for your work and for revealing a rather little-known topic in the world
Oh, no problem and thanks for the comment.
This is such an underrated channel!!!
Won't disagree with you there! 😅 Slowly, but surely we're growing though.
So true. I don’t get it. These guys really make history interesting and relevant
That's true my grandma who lived in USSR said : Soviet Union is a graveyard of nations"....
and we call it "the prison of nations"
Glad you made this video. Very informative 💪🏻
Thanks man; there actually was a lot more to the story than either of us expected - especially after having already covered Green Ukraine! 😅
1:25 In Ukrainian, it is not written correctly, but correctly, in the first: "Малиновий Клин", in the second: "Жовтий Клин", in the third: "Сірий Клин", in the fourth: "Зелений Клин"
I would like to add that "Raspberry Ukraine" is not beacause of berry, it's because of color, color of the flag. I would suggest "Crimson Ukraine".
Thanks for the video.
Brother, thanks a lot for the video!
Just a few corrections considering Ukrainian names of the regions:
- Малиновий Клин
- Жовтий Клин
- Сірий Клин
- Зелений Клин
Национал. социалист. клин
Тільки хотів це написати )
@@diarserouy Ахахах)))
@@Rgd0 , аншлаг-петросян клин)
@@comYakowenko Котцентрацион-рабочий клин)))
Я живу там, где есть так называемый " зеленый клин", однако на Дальнем Востоке украинцы в основной ассимилированы и живут в Приморском крае.
Кем могут быть ассимилированы украинцы? Чукчами?
@@Leantenantрусскими, человек имеет в виду, что эти "украинцы" о себе так не думают и сепараизма там 0
@@Alaen4ik Це досить умовна і неточні оцінки. Проте я згоден що більшість там уже асімільовано (В росії величезний досвіт політ. інст. манкурдизації).
Ну і в невеликих групах є сентемент до України і вони можуть певним чином вплинути в момент розпаду рф.
Хоча світу невигідний розпад та нестабільність в ядерні державі і в цьому основна проблема.
@@Leantenant Чукчи живут на Чукотке в основном, это чуть дальше, чем от Украины до португальской Атлантики. Выше верно написано, украинские фамилии и родственники в Украине, но ощущают себя русскими.
@@Cunning_Trout "Украинские" фамилии как-то не очень показывают национальность.
Впрочем тот же чукча будучи с русской фамилией не перестанет быть чукчей.
Так что определение национальности слишком мутно.
Great episode
Thanks Lucas!
Greetings from Ukraine, thank you for covering this! I always dreamt of this topic being talked about more
Oh, no problem! It honestly was a really interesting (if not largely forgotten) chapter of history to cover. 😃
Кстати довольно значительная часть Кубани до сих пор говорит на суржике (что-то среднее между русским и украинским). В основном на хуторах и станицах, но все же
@@balmashev93Это не суржик, а балачка
And they still is part of Russia..... so why the Ukraine can't?
Tons of Ukrainian historians covered this topic
Thank You Hearts of Iron for teaching me this and making sure I remember that Tannu Tuva is a real country
Interesting! I knew there was a lot of movement of various peoples within Russia (however I did no know many details like this) and this is just one of many exempels of it.
Thanks Jinni and yeah, there map certainly was different back then! I don’t know why, but it just kind of got me thinking of East Prussia and how that was entirely wiped off the map following WWII...changing the entire history of the area.
0:13
Never saw this map before
What year is it?
Nice work bro👍
Thanks ✌️
I recently watched a video about Ukrainians in Russia. For example, many older people in the Kuban (especially in the villages) speak Ukrainian. For anyone who has heard Ukrainian, this is obvious. But they are embarrassed to admit that it is Ukrainian and call it the local dialect of Russian. It's a pity.
Actually In Kuban, and in Green Klyn, there even emerged some Ukrainian culture organisations after fall of USSR. But after Putin became president, he started de-ukrainisation with Putinism ideology and those organisation were dismantled.
@@user-bp8zx4ve7p "putinism"💀💀💀💀💀💀
Russians in the Kuban do not speak Ukrainian, but simply speak with a slight accent, which in our country is called "southern" and has little in common with the Ukrainian language.
Don't spread nonsense if you don't know what you're talking about
cry
Not really. Their language is rich in Ukrainisms though,.
wow
this was really informative!
Oh, thank you! We’ll probably do a regular episode on the Kuban People’s Republic at some point as well.
You are giving me ideas for my 2.0 alternative history map. Thanks for the new info I will be using
Oh, no problem! 😉
Ok here's one thing I can't do as of now: Making a Grey Ukrainian state. I don't know how such a nation occupied such territory that didn't quite make sense. Now Yellow Ukraine and the Far-Eastern Republic I'm able to do, but for some reason the mapping software I'm using has their provinces are from Hearts of Iron 4. I'll keep anyone who's reading this informed on what my course of action is for Grey Ukraine
@@Real-Agent-Meta Most of the Ukrainians ended up there either by various settlement schemes and/or forced relocation, but it does appear pretty random on the map I will admit. 😅
I too agree @@GhostCountries. It does look bizarre to see a state with 56% of the population calling themselves Ukrainian to be located in the middle of an empire. The Far-Eastern cossacks make somewhat more sense, and the same thing goes with the Kuban and Don Cossacks
As a resident of gray Ukraine - the territory of northern Kazakhstan. We consider ourselves Russian and rather for the war in Ukraine for the most part. Even we have many who want to return to Russia.
@@Real-Agent-Meta
Thank you for doing this realy thank you
How did you mention Circassia about not the Circassian genocide that Russia did
the сircassian genocide is not a Russia's fault
@@orientalischerwarjager ok buddy
@@orientalischerwarjager sure they just killed themselves lmao
@@drayde4155 literally lol. the circassian nobility agitated the people to move to turkey, which is why a huge number of circassians fled to the black sea ports waiting for turkish ships that were not eager to take them, and if they even did so, circassians suffered from diseases and hunger along the way, since the osman empire mostly didn't care about them. the resettlement was very well planned by the Russian authorities so that the deportation was quite soft for the circassians themselves (no more than 5,000 families per YEAR)
therefore, yeah, it is not Russia's fault, the demand for deportation was issued by TURKEY ITSELF, and the CIRCASSIAN NOBILITY made this resettlement chaotic and uncontrolled
@@orientalischerwarjager cope and seethe en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circassian_genocide
Greetings from Ukraine and thank for such an entertaining content. It is really disappointing that you have only 20k subscribers. Such a good talent
Thank you a lot! I am very grateful to you for doing this. Incredible job thank you. Word can not describe how thankfull I am. Thank you
I wonder in some crazy alternate history. What would happen to the various “Ukraines” if they still existed in the later half of the 20th century. Would they all become independent states or merge into a “Mega Ukraine” stretching from the Carpathian Mountains to the Pacific Ocean. All while spilt from Ukraine proper.
It's called Russian Empire
As a Ukrainian I’m grateful for telling more about our history to the whole world🇺🇦🔱 Hope you will visit our country after victory and enjoy our hospitality☝️
I will💙💛
"After victory" 💀
@@user-gy6fq3lu7q yes you read it right
Увы ничего хорошего у нас нет.
@@guleifrgrimmur4 если вы росиянин- то скорее всего это правда
Thanks for the bell icon tip and another great episode full of incredible research
Oh, no problem Tina and thank you so much!!!
I’m kinda disappointed you didn’t mention the Circassian genocide while talking about Kuban Cossacks.
Truth. The Russian Empire used some colonized peoples to colonize others. This is what moscow is still doing and it is necessary to make this cruel process visible and analyze it.
That is irrelevant to the video
Thank you for this video! Hi from Sumy, Ukraine!
Сумы это Россия
@@groupvucic2235 москва це Україна
@@pims не смеши. И пиши нормальными буквами на родном русском языке.
@@groupvucic2235 так я і пишу рідною мовою, а всілякими вигаданими на болотах "язикамі" не спілкуюсь)
@@pims да конечно, сколько ты этим языком пользуешься, года два? Смешной ты
Concise and informative. Nice graphics.
Oh, thank you! We tried out some new things visually here (chapter intros, modifications with Countryball design, etc.); so, I'm glad you liked it...probably more to come in future videos too.
I knew about three of them but I never knew about raspberry Ukraine thank you for informing me
Oh, no problem, we’re glad you came across the video and, just FYI, but we do plan on a more in-depth look into the Kuban People’s Republic at some point!
8:26 what a weird map of Ukrainian people's republic. That part on the south for sure was included in it
Everything is correct. 19th year of the 20th century
There are 4 flights of force. Whites, Directory, Entente, Communists
Map's author excluded whole Tavria governorate, but UPR claimed non-peninsula part of it.
@@ayararesara6253 there was a successful Ukrainian march on Crimea though. Skrewed only by germans.
@@imiy Bolbochan? Yeah, I know. There were also attempts to negotiate with KPR to become part of federation, but they didn't lead to anything.
I am SURPRISED that this video has so few views. So interesting!
Thanks and yeah, the algorithm doesn’t seem to be too friendly with us 😅; we’ve got plenty more content on similar topics planned though!
Yellow Ukraine, Grey Ukraine, Green Ukraine......it's like Ukraine Power Ranger.
Why you talk so much about the bolcheviques "ending" this Ukraines when they regonized the ukraine language? And the withes tsarists try to ban all expression of ukraones culture?
Більшовики зробили хитро. Замісити заборони вони дали абсолютно штучну, пластмасову, кастроване культуру, від якої вхоплював крінж. Вона на офіційному рівні замінила справжню культуру. Одночасно з цим не знаючи російської мови неможливо було робити жодної кар'єри, чи просто отримати спеціальність. Таким чином більшовики дуже ефективно проводили асиміляцію та русифікацію.
In malaysia They have a state Ukraine flag call perlis but the flag flip
Does this “Raspberry Ukraine” exist? I don’t see anything for it online, and this video only explains the “Kuban People’s Republic”
it is basically the same. Raspberry Ukraine or "Малиновий клин" is just unofficial name of Ukrainian populated Kuban
@@user-ox9kw2kk9d I see. Should’ve mentioned that
Good Video🥇
Thanks Jiayi!
As a Ukrainian, I've only heard of the Kuban Ukraine and Green Ukraine, never have heard of the others. Thank you for sharing this content. Showing those photos with flags clearly stating word "Ukraine" is a good antidote to defy the russian propoganda narrative
Might I suggst a video on Idel-Ural?
I was just looking into Idel-Ural a bit after seeing your comment and 100% yes! The region itself has a very interesting history; plus, in addition to maybe a general overview (like our "Southern Cone" video), we can easily make some in-depth episodes about Volga Bulgaria, the Golden Horde, Khanate of Kazan, etc.
@GhostCountries Idel-Ural AND Volga Bulgaria? You'd be making dreams come true GC!
You forgot the artic circle of Siberia during the 1950 till 1991 in some cities like Vorkuta over 40 percent were Ukrainian some were forced to live there as punishment under article 58 . Kuban was Ukrainian since 1792 exiled Zaporozhian Cossacks moved there and following 1820s Ukrainian women followed their husband. Once Putin goes Russia proper will end up as mini states and ignoring Moscow its already brewing up .
I'm kind of interested, who exactly were (are) the Cossacks? They're not an ethic group, but still have a pretty role in Russian and European history.
Kings and Generals released a video on the Cossacks a few days ago that is pretty informative. You should check it out.
Yeah, we’ve only touched upon the Cossacks here and there in our videos, but I think we’ll revisit the Kuban People’s Republic or some of the other Cossack states (i.e. Cossack Hetmanate, etc.) in the future.
I agree This is another great topic to explore
@@ge3neva I definitely will! Off topic, but there's also a pretty good video by Andrew Vasylenko on the Volga Germans.
@@GhostCountries 100% would watch that!
😳😳😳fascinating!!
Thanks Matt! 🙌
So the colors actually correspond to directions. Green is east, white is north, south is black, yellow is west.
Can you do a video about quebec independence plzzz
Great video, very interesting!
Thanks man!
Ukrainian majority was shared not only in neighboring Kuban but also Rostov on don, Belgorod, Kursk and Voronezh, these regions connect modern Ukraine with Kuban so it was less disconnected than it appears in this video. But great video love that some people from outside Ukraine and Kuban know this history. Although it is not worth war, it would be a dream if these neighboring regions (not sure about the siberian regions) joined back, I have a friend from Krasnodar in Kuban who supports it!
Kuban is Circassia. The Cossacks serving Russia invaded our land and genocided %90 of our country. Stop acting like russia and being imperialistic
I myself am from the Kuban, and I think this idea is stupid, there are much more Russians in this territory
@@WIDE_BUTTER you're a colonist and you're living on lands stolen by means of genocide. You'll be a colonist until you move back to moscow. if not, you'll have to respect the native people's will
My friend lives in Lviv. He wants the lions to become part of Russia
@@Австраловенгрия Lviv is Ukraine.
If you go down that road moscovites are a mix of greeks and germans as well as slavs.
Like!
There are Ukrainians from Kuban in my church
Most of Kuban people have Ukrainian blood in them
@@Neversamost of ukrainian people have Russian blood in them
@@Neversaда вроде нет у них пятака и не так сильно воняют
@@funnyclown9138Найс ава
@@funnyclown9138 унтерменші? Себто недолюди?
Thank you for showing how interesting can be Ukrainian history
Literally zero mention of the Circassian genocide when talking about Kuban republic but when it comes to Armenian or Anatolian Greeks, channels like these won't shut up about mentioning them.
can you separate somewhere else? Like in texas or northern ireland?
Yellow country in the thumbnail be looking like a seahorse
It's important to note that many of these Ukrainians were deported to the locations shown in this video. While it is true that many migrated, it was also an integral step at Russification within Ukraine to deport Ukrainians, and settle Russians in the area. This can still be seen today, in the Russo-Ukrainian war, even as far back as 2014 with the occupation of Crimea.
Ukrainians Culturally were Dominated By Russians Before the Times of the Ussr. So this is highly unlikely as Those Ukrainians their Language was not the same as the Modern ukrainian Language they spoke different dialects ranging from Regions. There was Really No big different between Russian and Ukrainian culture. Noone saw it and No one cared. It's just migration
Futhermore. The Russians didn't deport any Ukrainians from Crimea The ones whom weren't satisfied with the Annexation left on their Own behalf. No one forced them out Except themselfs and Ukrainians have always been a Minority in Crimea.
Russia's history is about people moving, then being forced to moved, then moving again, then being forced to do something so they move again
@@sotch2271 Yep. Invasions and deportations. A very long history of that. The mongols made it worst
@@YayaToure1247 Those are all falsehoods made by the modern Russian government. Ukrainian became it's own distinct language somewhere around 1300 AD. Russian and Ukrainian culture are also often very, very different. Ukrainian cossacks have a lot of influence.
wow
I don't, I just hit that like button whenever I watch a channel that I know to be good, and remove it whenever they remind me to leave a like
2:22 It might have been worth mentioning the genocide of the Circassians alongside the settlements
indeed
Really interesting stuff!
Thanks man! 🙌
When are we getting a video on green/red/white/grey/purple israel?
I saw the thumbnail and instantly clifked because you actually colored green ukraine green lol
Thank you for bringing Ukrainian history to the masses
Russian history*
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@@rodzaevsky4271really, which one ? Russkaya, rossijskaya or ruska?
@@romailto9299 what do u mean?
@@rodzaevsky4271 that's precisely what I am asking. Which history you have in mind, given that in the English language there is only one word - Russian - whereas in Russian or Ukrainian these are different identities
every time he says people were evacuated/migrated/moved replace this with "taken forcefully in the middle of the night, put like cattle into train wagons without any food, with all wealth stolen away from them". A huge percentage of people even didn't make it to final destinations, many died after being dropped in the middle of nowhere without food, tools and knowledge to survive ...
remember for any lawful state of things to exist it is vital that a certain land and territory is the priviliged ownership of one people and one culture, everyone else is either merchants, diplomats, foreign/neighbouring temporary laborers, or temporary refugees or a small number of immigrants who are actively in the process of adopting the culture of the tribe/culture they are lucky enough to get a chance at becomming part of. if this basic nobrainer order of things is not followed then states are not real simply places of ongoing war. then it only becomes a frantic game of who can kill or prevent reproduction of certain cultures or who can produce the most children, whom they actively raises to be their own foreign culture, until they deem they have produced enough manpower to overthrow the host tribe, or at the very least gradually overtake their influence over their rightful land.
so immigration should be done in very small numbers, a percentage of the host population and the rough maximum potential population of a certain area. and it should be very clear that they come to a new tribe and if they want to stay for longer than a visa they have to shed their old culture for the most part and freely replace it with the host culture. if not, then any other word than invader is not fit to describe them. remember colonization, invasion, annexation etc. does not require a specific method (violent in a classical shortterm "hot war") but merely requires above mentioned priniciples of refusal to fully integrate to be the case. for the world to expirience the most order and peace, it has to follow the same rules that make up a safe and properous neighbourhood of houses, lawns, families and fences/hedges. no peace between neighbours can exist if both parties does not respect and love the fences and hedges between their properties. simple as that. all war is the refusal to respect your neighbouring familys/tribes priviliged right to that specific plot. so of course the native population needs to be priviliged for any amount of law, order and morality to exist. just like any investment in a succesful business. the few people who start up a later very succesful budiness that grows beyond the initial few founders, should of course put the founders in a priviliged position, as long as everything is by the book and their employees and customers are not forced to support/invest in the business. yes you can discuss the details of the founders privilige but not that lawful fact that they need to be priviliged. otherwise there is not law, no business, only a horde of barbarians who sees wealth and use various means to unlawfully steal it. dont like a lawful and peaceful succeesful culture/business/tribe? boycut them, dont work for or support them. but attacking them, stealing from them, simply makes you the bad guy.
so you want freedom to gain by conquest? or you want law and peace? the choice is obviously not an easy one, as humanity is very split between people who answer first or second. just be honest about which type you are.
2:02 TOOK A LEAP THROUGH A BOX SUPER WEIRD-
My Ukrainian great grandma ended up in Buryatia, a region in Russia east of lake Baikal.
>ended up
My ukrainian great grandfather MOVED to buryatia because there was higher salary, it is not like somebody forced him to go there
@@EkoFranko very interesting
shouldnt it be called buriat ukraine then (following the broken logic of the video)?
@aslkdmskfm how is the logic broken if that time ukrainians really called those regions of Ros emp such way?
Friendly reminder that Ukrainians have nothing to do with Caucasus, they might have been relocated to Kuban during the tsar rule, but these lands have zero connection to them whatsoever. My Circassian nationalist ass couldn't even stand seeing that map.
Yah it sucks what happened to the Circassians, but you weren’t the only people group in who lived in the Kuban, and it doesn’t change the fact that the Kuban had a significant Ukrainian population.
But hey now the Ukrainians are being genocided by the Russians so there’s your revenge you can jerk off to I guess since you’re a nationalist.
Exactly
1: 25 You have written it with mistakes. Right way is below:
Малиновий клин
Жовтий клин
Сірий клин
Зелений клин
In general, if we talk about Kliny (wedges), which the author for some reason translates as Ukraine (outskirts / borderlands), then it is worth pointing out an important fact.
In the times of the Russian Empire part of the people living in Ukraine were Cossacks - this is a special military estate, into which a person of any nationality was accepted and culturally they represent a separate sub-ethnos. And it was the Cossacks who participated in the resettlement in Kliny.
For some reason, the modern Ukrainian government is trying to record all the Cossacks as Ukrainians, even if they are some kind of Buryat Cossacks (the Buryats are an Asian people living near Lake Baikal).
It is also worth saying that some of the Cossacks in the 21st century have gone so far from their original nation that they no longer consider themselves Russians, Ukrainians or a representative of some other nationality. In the Russian Federation, there are 7 million people belonging to the Cossack estate, and of these, 2% consider themselves to be the Cossack people.
Moreover, if ever Ukraine greets the same Russian Kuban, then very many of the local "Ukrainian" population would not be happy with them. Ukrainians as an ethnic group were finally formed already in the Soviet era and therefore culturally differ from those Ukrainians who left Ukraine during the Empire.
Exactly. and to be Cossack is more of a way of Life then it is an Ethnicity But Alot of People in the west and Ukraine don't Understand that
The conflict lies in the fact that there is a word Cossack, which of Turkic origin means a free man.
That's why Qazaqstan, Kazakhs.
THIS can also be called Cossacks by its meaning.
But not all Cossacks are Ukrainians.
Ukrainian Cossacks are those who came from Ukraine after the middle of the 19th century.
The origin of the word Cossack is unknown, what you called is just one of the theories. I rather adhere to the fact that the word Cossack came from a modified word Khazars (one of the nomadic tribes).
The fact is that among the nomadic peoples there was such a tradition that children born from women who were subjected to violence by the nomads became managers in the captured villages.
The local population was perceived as animals, but "half-breeds" in their eyes were already half-humans. They taught them horseback riding and archery. Over time, puppies have become a separate social layer.
@@baneofbanes As I said - the Cossacks - this is not something unique that applies only to the Ukrainians.
In the Middle Ages, Ukraine was conditionally divided into two parts - the Lithuanian Western part and the independent, but conditionally vassal to the Moscow princes Eastern part.
In fact, there were two Cossack states on the territory of Ukraine - the Hetmanate in the territory of the West - created from peasants who fled from Lithuania and Poland, and the Zaporozhian Sich, created from fugitive peasants from the territory of modern Russia.
I think it is logical that a person who has escaped from actual slavery and is ready to fight with weapons in his hands will love freedom very much.
@@baneofbanes Between the disappearance of the Khazar Khaganate and the first mention of the Cossacks recorded in written sources is less than 200-300 hundreds of years.
Your statement about a thousand years is rather strange, because it was in the written source (dictionary) I mentioned above that the word Cossack was translated as a free man or a tramp. Since you adhere to this particular version, you should have known this.
However, this does not reject the version that I adhere to, because due to the fact that the Khazars lost their state and they had to bow to other tribes, the name of their tribe could become a household name and associate with vagrants.
Why do you ignore the circasian genocide?
I see youre also ignoring the holodomor.
Who asked?
@@yamameeven967 Get lost loser!
Holodomor wasn't only in Ukraine, it affected all of USSR
@@ROTE_BALL The holodomor is the reason Krasnodar stopped being ukrainian.
Great trial! gret trallll!,,,,!1,,!! 5:11
08:20 Finland was free by 1917 but shown as Soviet?! Finland was never part of the SU
Your map of Ukraine is wrong.
That was the Ukraine map during Russian empire, Russian empire didn’t own all of ukraine, Austria owned west Ukraine
which one
There are so many random stories about the various minorities within Russia (mainly Russian empire, damn you Russification). This was a very nice video. I will oblige and like and subscribe.
Since I'm here, did Belarus have similar movements as Ukraine? I don't ever hear about Belarusian wedges though theoretically the Imperial settlement programs could've appealed to them. What is the reason for a lack of a Belarusian diaspora?
Thank you so much and welcome to the channel! 🙌
I actually haven’t come across much in the way of Belarusian wedges or something of that nature, which is kind of strange given that a couple million do live outside Belarus itself. If we get a little more broad with terms here and use “Ruthenian,” there is Red Ruthenia, which was located in what nowadays is western Ukraine and SE Poland. That being said, I think I’ll have to look into it a bit more.
Because they are identical to Russians and assimilate into Russian diaspora when being abroad
Smolensk was belarusian
Raspberry Ukraine is like Crimeas brother same style flag
ruclips.net/video/aoC2Rcel6G0/видео.html these are the borders of the Ukrainian People's Republic in 1917, in 1918 with the arrival of Pavel Skoropadsky, a small coup took place and Ukraine became the Ukrainian State (the border of the Brest-Litovsk peace treaty would be better shown on video)
Thank you for your work. My sister's mother from Kuban spent all her summer holidays there. They speak Ukrainian there, it is not the same as in Ukraine, but you can say a dialect in Ukrainian, but I am not a linguist. The people of Kuban themselves called themselves Cossacks, not Ukrainians. The Cossacks were free people in the Russian Empire. They had different privileges at different times. The Soviet government made everyone Soviet and planted on the Cossacks of the Kuban that they were Russians. Therefore, you can meet a Kuban who will speak Ukrainian and will say that he is Russian. Here is a film about the Sovietization of the region with living witnesses. It was shot immediately after the collapse of the USSR. ruclips.net/video/KT5tKV8KqKs/видео.html
Thank you so much for commenting and glad you came across our video! I’ll definitely check out the film you linked and, just letting you know, we’re planning for a full-length episode about the Kuban People’s Republic at some point too.
Except that the russian indemnity was already there to begin with as many of those who settled the kuban were russians and those who were Ukrainian also spoke russian
@@Silver_Prussiandah, everyone had to speak russian in russian empire and ussr. Russian identity was forced onto everyone. For example, in the census from 1897 which was mentioned in this video, not only did not they consider your ethnicity, only language you speak, but you would be automatically considered as russian speaker if you were literate because you read and write in russian since writing and teaching Ukrainian is forbidden - hence bingo! you are a russian speaker! That's why so few Ukrainian speakers in big cities even in mainland Ukraine, in that one and only census from russian empire.
So the actual number of ethic Ukrainians was much higher everywhere.
@@imiy
"Yes, in the Russian Empire and the USSR everyone had to speak Russian. Russian identity was imposed on everyone."
Ukraine now - what, Russians and the Russian language? Only Ukrainians and Ukrainian.
@@Kampotik Russian isn't forbidden in any way, it's just Ukrainian is the official language in Ukraine. And you can be considered russian or whatever ethnicity, no one forces you to become Ukrainian. How horrible that is!
You should make a video on Circassia and the genocide of its people
The map submitted by the Ukrainian People's Republic for approval to the Congress after World War I.
I like #1 green Ukraine
u forget rasberry, grey & yellow Ukraine
1:25 In fact, it is correct to write:
Малиновий клин
Жовтий клин
Сірий клин
Зелений клин
Мова не була стандардизована тогочасно
Если Кубанская Украина это доказано, Зеленая Украина имеет место быть, то Серая и Желтая Украина это уже бред. 2-7 процентов населения не делает область украинским. В северном Казахстане немцев и то было больше чем украинцев
Эта Кубанская и зеленая украина с вами в одной комнате?
Cерая Украина де-факто существовала как автономия во времена гражданской войньі. Отрицать не имеет смьісла
Объясните уже как вы украинство определяете?
@@JamesSmith-ix5jd происхождение от 7 славянских племен которые жили на территории от Припяти до Черного Моря и от Днепра до Сяна
@@Gray_ninja И какое отношение древние племена имеют к Украине? На територии России еще до того как крестили Русь жили какие то люди, и что, они тоже теперь русские? Вы смешиваете политическое образование и этническое происхождение. Одно не равно другому.
my Ukrainian ancestors came to far east russia, near Chinese border :)
what about the provinces in ukraine stolen from other countries