I have a Lenovo P920 Workstation with two Xeon Gold 6136's and it kicks ass with spreadsheets and with the GTX 1080 ti fe ... it kicks ass in Gaming too.
@@RestoTek i agree and back that comments fully i use a dual xeon e5 2699 on a lenovo thinkstation p900 150gb ram and i have a second lenovo thinkstation p910 dual xeon e5 2683 v4 and 150gb ddr 4 ram i game on both oh and rtx 360 12gb on both love them both
X79 is awesome, I've got one too but unfortunately my motherboard died. But managed to play allot of the latest titles with x79. On this video I tested x79: ruclips.net/video/5LainxtpVWE/видео.htmlsi=oe4KAFffdx-oEF4c
I was a bit lost on building a workstation with a i7 12700kf or 2 e5 2697v4 but this video convinced me to do xeon, it's also pretty cheap on aliexpress
Yeah I'm rebuilding another one right now, it's a little fiddly, I got error codes come up, just remember not to over tighten the cpu coolers and add the ram sticks in one at a time. That's add one ram stick then boot, turn off add another etc. It's some weird black magic on my mobo anyways
Exactly! Just add a price for electricity bills for let’s say two years, and with this new price try to lookup a modern alternative. It will be better. It even could have an ECC RAM support. PS The only question for me is Threadripper 39x0X or i9-13900K ;) I’m not sure. Perhaps I prefer to go to a local store. That’s only the reason
@@RestoTek Well remember this was a 2012 mobo in 2020 so i say "Acceptably" well. It could run games at full speed but you were going to deal with compatibly very long processing times when you were say. Generating a world in 7 days to die or the like.
Just build a Huananzhi F8D dual socket 2680v4, performs better than a Threadripper 2990WX or a I7-13700KF in multicore - 18€ per cpu and a 130€ motherboard 😆
@MetallixX974 that's awesome, sometimes you can even get those motherboards for cheaper. I picked up my ram, motherboard and dual cpus for maybe around £140 lol
You forgot an important pro for the dual CPU set up. PCIE lanes, lots of PCIE lanes. Important if you have more than 1 GPU and PCIE bifurcation and have lots of NVME storage.
Im running a super micro x10dax board with a pair of 2683v4 chips and 16x32gb ecc lpddr4 2400 in my home server. Does a fantastic job, runs all tasks, runs cool. Does burn lots and lots of power though.
Coming from a single Xeon 2696V3 build myself, it always crossed my mind to try a dual Xeon build, but at the end some Haswell quirks, the questionable quality of the boards and high power draw in idle with the Turbo boost unlock were enough downsides for me to bite the bullet and invest into a modern 14700KF instead. At least I got to re-use my DDR4-RAM and got a decent Z690 board for cheap. If there only were some more recent Xeon options available with decent but cheap boards, I'd be among the first to try that route again. But unfortunately, there are no such more modern options available right now.
I would be interested to see if changing the OS would impact the wattage used... Also... Can it run Cult of the Lamb, with no stutters, at a base with 20+ followers and 4+ farmstations with farming plots filled out? Congrats on over 1k subs.
Thank you took ages to get there but happy, now I've found out I can't monetize on half of my videos😭, anyways looked at this game (I haven't tested it) but the recommended requirements are a gtx 1050 which I think this pc is more than powerful enough to run the game. If you want me to test it is there some way of you sending me a game save file so I can test it out?
xeon isn't bad for gaming, you can get amazing performance with an older xeon even in games like cyberpunk you can get very decent framerates using all those cores
Yeah in my tests cyberpunk performed really well, allot better than I expected. Battlefield V not so much. I think though as we move to more cores I think developers will start developing games that suite xeon cpus better
CB23 only showed a few Threadrippers and the newest CPUs... So here is another useful comparison: So: dual e5-2694v4 (22c/44t x2, 44c/88t) and 300W (150W x2) has CB23 of 27,326. My Ryzen 5950X (16c/32t) [unrestricted power by PBO in BIOS, about 170W] has CB23 of 27,223.
I think if you just want something simple just to turn on an use I'd just get a modern ryzen or intel cpu, they just work better out the box. Still if you want something to play around with then this is a good option
I want an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X(threadripper: Server; Productivity CPU, for DAW) in a dual socket integration w/ an above mid CPU to match with a GPU that can handle up to 1440p Radeon RX 6800 XT or something like a: 3080/3090 (when I get into 4K resolution my costs increase exponentially.) Would be neat if the Dual Socket could switch/swap on or off on centred tasks.
There are allot of really knowledgeable people in this chat, it might be worth having a reach through and see what other have done with dual socket setup!
Man I wanted an x99 so bad in the day. Now they're kind of...less relevant? I actually thought about getting one of the chinese boards and building an x99 not too long ago. Instead I picked up an open box 12th gen i3 dell for 100bucks. Upgraded to a 12500 from ebay for 50, popped in an m.2 and an rx6650xt and Im pretty happy, it does everything i need. Anyways...good vid-it was fun to watch👍
Thank you glad you enjoyed it, to be honest I think you made a pretty sound decision going that route and getting a 12th gen i3. Compatability is much better and far more efficent. If you wanted to though you could pick up an x99 motherboard, cheap ram and a couple of cpus to mess around with, they are pretty cheap to buy especially second hand!
@@RestoTek i guess you missed the part where I upgraded it to i5😁. I would've went i7 but i heard the Dell bios limits power pretty hard. I just went with what i thought was a safe middle ground. But yeah... new stuff has really improved so fast. Im old enough that I was around before ryzen came out. Before then it was normal on Intel to get just a couple/few % ipc improvements each generation (and to get more cores you had to step up to high end- like x99, which was out of my price range. That's why I always wanted one...I couldn't afford one back then). We all owe AMD a big ty for shaking things up and driving progress forward. Oh and btw, good idea. I hadn't really thought about getting an x99 just to play with but I might just do that- now that the stuff is cheap. It would be neat to compare. Btw, I don't get to talk about this stuff that often so forgive me if I went on too long and got boring.
@colestowing8695 dude I could talk about this stuff all day lol, don't know what it is but messing around with PC Parts is allot of fun for me. For some reason I like older parts I guess it's because it's cheap for me to buy for my channel and It gives me allot of options to experiment without spending too much money. Sorry I missed when you mention an i5 that will pretty much run anything. I've got another video that I'm going to be working on soon, don't want to say too much now but a little odd ball setup 😆
sorry - but several of your "dont's" don't really add up - psu with dual eps: uhm - if you look at the class you typical use for such systems - anywhere above 750w - most of them come with dual eps rails - the hard part really is to find psu with more than 2 eps rails as most dual-xeon boards often require 3 or even 4 8-pin eps - although you can use adapters from pci-e to eps back when I was on the am3+ bulldozer platform my formula-z hat 8 + 4 eps - and my old corsair ax750 has 2x 8 eps - case with enough space: look no further than "full tower" - any full tower with enough space for a 4090 has enough space to fit e-atx boards - ram speeds: well, it's because JEDEC doesn't specify anything faster for ECC - and that's for stability - and that's the choice to be made: speed vs stability/reliability - why do you think an ibm z390 mainframe is two full racks with just the power of a high end gaming rig? it's because most of it can fail and yet still can serve your thousands of bank customers at the same time to me your list is way to personal and thereby not bias-free for a good information - it's just "yea, I did it - but I don't recommend it" "weird driver issues on chinese boards" - yea, because neither are these designed for windows client os nor should anyone run any windows on such a platform - it's meant for linux - if you even try to run windows on it it's your fault - RTFM! - you're doing it wrong!
I can only go off of my own experience. Tbh I had the general consumer in mind and the conclusion at the end of the video wasn't what I really thought. Tbh I really enjoyed my experience with a dual socket motherboard and it run far better than the i9 11900kf that I have at the moment. The dual socket boots faster and was surprisingly stable. But I tried to give a balanced view of the positives and some short coming for someone that might be inexperienced with dual socket builds. Appreciate the feedback and well do better next time
I have a question about cases, I have a e-atx SSB type motherboard from supermicro (12x13) and I need ro find a case, I do not think anu eatx cade can support a format that is not common, in terms of the screws placements
@gastonhitw720 I used an ionz case but I used a Chinese dual socket motherboard, I think there are some options for example CORSAIR Obsidian Series 1000D?
It went to about 400w maybe 410 peak, its paired with a rx 6700 xt, I tested it with a couple of games aswell as bench and stress test in cpu z and 3d mark, the wattage barely broke above 400w, I'm pretty surprised tbh
A 13600k will walk over pretty much anything, but like you said it's about cost I suppose, these cpus are so cheap they pretty much cost the same as a cpu cooler 🤣
is a dual socket like owning two pcs ? i want too look for a build for dual pcs i use two cases for my both pcs i just want too know .or should i stick with what i use i want a gaming and streaming
I'd stick with what you have at the moment, dual socket cpus will work together to act as a single cpu, either way they will still share resources between both cpus. So stick with what you have. Alternatively you could upgrade one pc with a better gpu with NVEC encoding like a nvidia rtx and that way you would get no impact on gaming performance with streaming
Well even if I am right or wrong it helps the community and me, it doesn't matter to me if I'm wrong as long as I learn from you and you learn a few things from me
@@RestoTek What does that mean? An entire city with shitty parents and schools that don't teach kids how to talk properly? It's so hard to listen to. You should get an AI to narrate instead. It's a total turn off and ruins whatever message is trying to be relayed.
@sinoperture also it's not about speaking "properly" what is speaking properly?? It's a cultural dialect for where you came from, I highly doubt you speak clear "British english"
There is no con in faster stronger smarter smoother. These other guys out there are being paid by asus, nvidia and others to promote one cpu "gaming boards" to have the need for the most expensive gpu.
100% agree, most youtubers always use like a i9 14900k and a rtx 4090 in all thier videos, I just don't have that kind of money! So I'll stick to my budget boards and I still have a great gaming experience at a fraction of the cost
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I have a Lenovo P920 Workstation with two Xeon Gold 6136's and it kicks ass with spreadsheets and with the GTX 1080 ti fe ... it kicks ass in Gaming too.
Dual Socket pcs are awesome, I don't care what anyone says lol
@@RestoTek i agree and back that comments fully i use a dual xeon e5 2699 on a lenovo thinkstation p900 150gb ram and i have a second lenovo thinkstation p910 dual xeon e5 2683 v4 and 150gb ddr 4 ram i game on both oh and rtx 360 12gb on both love them both
is it pretty smooth? im considering buying a p720 for use as a server, with dual 6138s for virtual desktop stuffs, it looks like great value.
@@Alexander-dc4kf they use alot of power but mine is very reliable.
Dude thanks so much for making this video
My dad built me one just because and I had no idea how to take advantage of 2 CPUs
I use a dual cpu setup in my main pc. It is on the x79 (c602) platform. I like it a lot.
X79 is awesome, I've got one too but unfortunately my motherboard died. But managed to play allot of the latest titles with x79. On this video I tested x79: ruclips.net/video/5LainxtpVWE/видео.htmlsi=oe4KAFffdx-oEF4c
I was a bit lost on building a workstation with a i7 12700kf or 2 e5 2697v4 but this video convinced me to do xeon, it's also pretty cheap on aliexpress
Yeah I'm rebuilding another one right now, it's a little fiddly, I got error codes come up, just remember not to over tighten the cpu coolers and add the ram sticks in one at a time. That's add one ram stick then boot, turn off add another etc. It's some weird black magic on my mobo anyways
@RestoTek alright thanks for the tip!
6:45
Solar pannels go brrrrr
🤣 I do have solar panels and that's the exact sound they make
Exactly! Just add a price for electricity bills for let’s say two years, and with this new price try to lookup a modern alternative. It will be better. It even could have an ECC RAM support.
PS The only question for me is Threadripper 39x0X or i9-13900K ;) I’m not sure. Perhaps I prefer to go to a local store. That’s only the reason
I have a competitor that might rival 13th gen intel but maybe not the 13th gen i9, will be coming out soon!
I use the exact mobo you used in my dual cpu proxmox setup. Great video and really informative
Thank you
I had a duel Xeon i used all the way until 2020. DDR2 but it had so much ram and so many cores it functioned acceptably into the ddr4 era.
@@Virtue2721 that's amazing! Even ddr4 era dual xeons work so well today
@@RestoTek Well remember this was a 2012 mobo in 2020 so i say "Acceptably" well. It could run games at full speed but you were going to deal with compatibly very long processing times when you were say. Generating a world in 7 days to die or the like.
Dual cpu build are so cool... love this video and this pc.😊
Thank you 😊
Built one because I could - still gaming on it and loving it
@@adamvanheerden6971 that's awesome, thinking of putting mine back together!
Just build a Huananzhi F8D dual socket 2680v4, performs better than a Threadripper 2990WX or a I7-13700KF in multicore - 18€ per cpu and a 130€ motherboard 😆
@MetallixX974 that's awesome, sometimes you can even get those motherboards for cheaper. I picked up my ram, motherboard and dual cpus for maybe around £140 lol
I did i also built an hp z8!
I have seen those those motherboard for 75 euros on aliexpress and xeon e5 2697 v4 for 50
You forgot an important pro for the dual CPU set up. PCIE lanes, lots of PCIE lanes. Important if you have more than 1 GPU and PCIE bifurcation and have lots of NVME storage.
Might give something like that a try, especially some kind of dual gpu setup might be kind of interesting
also if you are worried about power the dells use half that
I wonder if amd epyc cpus will ever be cheap enough to be used in a budget build id love to use a 64 core cpu in a build
I reckon at some point it would be, threadripper is getting cheaper so that be a route, I don't know how many cores they have tho
Is there anything out there regarding blogs/reddit on this?
Im running a super micro x10dax board with a pair of 2683v4 chips and 16x32gb ecc lpddr4 2400 in my home server. Does a fantastic job, runs all tasks, runs cool. Does burn lots and lots of power though.
@dreadwe yeah that's the only downside, but if electricity is not an issue then you have everything else it needs to do!
Coming from a single Xeon 2696V3 build myself, it always crossed my mind to try a dual Xeon build, but at the end some Haswell quirks, the questionable quality of the boards and high power draw in idle with the Turbo boost unlock were enough downsides for me to bite the bullet and invest into a modern 14700KF instead. At least I got to re-use my DDR4-RAM and got a decent Z690 board for cheap. If there only were some more recent Xeon options available with decent but cheap boards, I'd be among the first to try that route again. But unfortunately, there are no such more modern options available right now.
@seylaw yeah it's a shame but I think you made the right choice, all dual cores are cool they don't compare to a modern cpu
I would be interested to see if changing the OS would impact the wattage used...
Also...
Can it run Cult of the Lamb, with no stutters, at a base with 20+ followers and 4+ farmstations with farming plots filled out?
Congrats on over 1k subs.
Thank you took ages to get there but happy, now I've found out I can't monetize on half of my videos😭, anyways looked at this game (I haven't tested it) but the recommended requirements are a gtx 1050 which I think this pc is more than powerful enough to run the game. If you want me to test it is there some way of you sending me a game save file so I can test it out?
Definitely recommend dual cpu for beam NG as that game needs the cores and threads and ram to play properly
xeon isn't bad for gaming, you can get amazing performance with an older xeon even in games like cyberpunk you can get very decent framerates using all those cores
Yeah in my tests cyberpunk performed really well, allot better than I expected. Battlefield V not so much. I think though as we move to more cores I think developers will start developing games that suite xeon cpus better
CB23 only showed a few Threadrippers and the newest CPUs... So here is another useful comparison:
So: dual e5-2694v4 (22c/44t x2, 44c/88t) and 300W (150W x2) has CB23 of 27,326.
My Ryzen 5950X (16c/32t) [unrestricted power by PBO in BIOS, about 170W] has CB23 of 27,223.
If you have solar panels then dual socket is the way to go! Lol still impressive how cpus released almost a decade ago are still relevant!
Glad I watched this. Are there dual socket mobos with built-in graphics?
@andrewjenery1783 I'm not sure, machinist makes some nice mobos they might have on board graphics maybe
@@RestoTek Ok, and thanks
dual cpus + 3 rtx graphic cards and at least 256 gb of ram, CGI possibilities....
Nice video. I'm a casual. I don't have much knowledge about computers. Getting ready to buy. Interesting stuff 👌🏾
I think if you just want something simple just to turn on an use I'd just get a modern ryzen or intel cpu, they just work better out the box. Still if you want something to play around with then this is a good option
Thank you for posting this video 🎥🍿🧋. You have a new subscriber 🎉. Keep up the great 👍 work 🎉.
Thank you so much, means allot to a small youtuber like me 😊
I want an AMD Ryzen 9 7950X(threadripper: Server; Productivity CPU, for DAW) in a dual socket integration w/ an above mid CPU to match with a GPU that can handle up to 1440p
Radeon RX 6800 XT or something like a:
3080/3090
(when I get into 4K resolution my costs increase exponentially.)
Would be neat if the Dual Socket could switch/swap on or off on centred tasks.
There are allot of really knowledgeable people in this chat, it might be worth having a reach through and see what other have done with dual socket setup!
Man I wanted an x99 so bad in the day. Now they're kind of...less relevant? I actually thought about getting one of the chinese boards and building an x99 not too long ago. Instead I picked up an open box 12th gen i3 dell for 100bucks. Upgraded to a 12500 from ebay for 50, popped in an m.2 and an rx6650xt and Im pretty happy, it does everything i need. Anyways...good vid-it was fun to watch👍
Thank you glad you enjoyed it, to be honest I think you made a pretty sound decision going that route and getting a 12th gen i3. Compatability is much better and far more efficent. If you wanted to though you could pick up an x99 motherboard, cheap ram and a couple of cpus to mess around with, they are pretty cheap to buy especially second hand!
@@RestoTek i guess you missed the part where I upgraded it to i5😁. I would've went i7 but i heard the Dell bios limits power pretty hard. I just went with what i thought was a safe middle ground. But yeah... new stuff has really improved so fast. Im old enough that I was around before ryzen came out. Before then it was normal on Intel to get just a couple/few % ipc improvements each generation (and to get more cores you had to step up to high end- like x99, which was out of my price range. That's why I always wanted one...I couldn't afford one back then). We all owe AMD a big ty for shaking things up and driving progress forward. Oh and btw, good idea. I hadn't really thought about getting an x99 just to play with but I might just do that- now that the stuff is cheap. It would be neat to compare. Btw, I don't get to talk about this stuff that often so forgive me if I went on too long and got boring.
@colestowing8695 dude I could talk about this stuff all day lol, don't know what it is but messing around with PC Parts is allot of fun for me. For some reason I like older parts I guess it's because it's cheap for me to buy for my channel and It gives me allot of options to experiment without spending too much money. Sorry I missed when you mention an i5 that will pretty much run anything. I've got another video that I'm going to be working on soon, don't want to say too much now but a little odd ball setup 😆
Yeah…. I totally picked up everything you dropped…. 😅
Might as well wait on used threadrippers
That was going to be my next project 😄
If I add 2 16 bit processor then would it be 32 bit.
@indogreek5565 no I think it would still be 16bit, you would need a processor that specifically designed to be 32bit
To get afan mounted another story
@@NessieGirl77 a fan mounted?
sorry - but several of your "dont's" don't really add up
- psu with dual eps: uhm - if you look at the class you typical use for such systems - anywhere above 750w - most of them come with dual eps rails - the hard part really is to find psu with more than 2 eps rails as most dual-xeon boards often require 3 or even 4 8-pin eps - although you can use adapters from pci-e to eps
back when I was on the am3+ bulldozer platform my formula-z hat 8 + 4 eps - and my old corsair ax750 has 2x 8 eps
- case with enough space: look no further than "full tower" - any full tower with enough space for a 4090 has enough space to fit e-atx boards
- ram speeds: well, it's because JEDEC doesn't specify anything faster for ECC - and that's for stability - and that's the choice to be made: speed vs stability/reliability - why do you think an ibm z390 mainframe is two full racks with just the power of a high end gaming rig? it's because most of it can fail and yet still can serve your thousands of bank customers at the same time
to me your list is way to personal and thereby not bias-free for a good information - it's just "yea, I did it - but I don't recommend it"
"weird driver issues on chinese boards" - yea, because neither are these designed for windows client os nor should anyone run any windows on such a platform - it's meant for linux - if you even try to run windows on it it's your fault - RTFM! - you're doing it wrong!
I can only go off of my own experience. Tbh I had the general consumer in mind and the conclusion at the end of the video wasn't what I really thought. Tbh I really enjoyed my experience with a dual socket motherboard and it run far better than the i9 11900kf that I have at the moment. The dual socket boots faster and was surprisingly stable. But I tried to give a balanced view of the positives and some short coming for someone that might be inexperienced with dual socket builds. Appreciate the feedback and well do better next time
I have a question about cases, I have a e-atx SSB type motherboard from supermicro (12x13) and I need ro find a case, I do not think anu eatx cade can support a format that is not common, in terms of the screws placements
@gastonhitw720 I used an ionz case but I used a Chinese dual socket motherboard, I think there are some options for example CORSAIR Obsidian Series 1000D?
44core ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 88thread? what the hell ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ it's amazing BUILD that i naver seen before
Will need to make the video I think 😅
6:42 340W?! is it idle or during full load? what card you use for test?
It went to about 400w maybe 410 peak, its paired with a rx 6700 xt, I tested it with a couple of games aswell as bench and stress test in cpu z and 3d mark, the wattage barely broke above 400w, I'm pretty surprised tbh
My 13600K does 23600 or so. But sure, the price is pretty nice on the CPUs. But the Xeons are cheap I guess. Not bad.
A 13600k will walk over pretty much anything, but like you said it's about cost I suppose, these cpus are so cheap they pretty much cost the same as a cpu cooler 🤣
if youw ant the best bang for the buck with no headaches a dell t7910 or 7920 is the way to go .
I'll have a look into that great tip
is a dual socket like owning two pcs ? i want too look for a build for dual pcs i use two cases for my both pcs i just want too know .or should i stick with what i use i want a gaming and streaming
I'd stick with what you have at the moment, dual socket cpus will work together to act as a single cpu, either way they will still share resources between both cpus. So stick with what you have. Alternatively you could upgrade one pc with a better gpu with NVEC encoding like a nvidia rtx and that way you would get no impact on gaming performance with streaming
Bro want likes even if ur decision is wrong 💀 bro!
Well even if I am right or wrong it helps the community and me, it doesn't matter to me if I'm wrong as long as I learn from you and you learn a few things from me
Twenty Twenty Free? Huh....? Freds? Mofaboard? Bouf?
It's souf London Bruv 😂
@@RestoTek What does that mean? An entire city with shitty parents and schools that don't teach kids how to talk properly? It's so hard to listen to. You should get an AI to narrate instead. It's a total turn off and ruins whatever message is trying to be relayed.
@@sinoperture Appreciate the feedback, I'll make sure my pronunciations are clearer and more concise moving forwards
@sinoperture also it's not about speaking "properly" what is speaking properly?? It's a cultural dialect for where you came from, I highly doubt you speak clear "British english"
There is no con in faster stronger smarter smoother. These other guys out there are being paid by asus, nvidia and others to promote one cpu "gaming boards" to have the need for the most expensive gpu.
100% agree, most youtubers always use like a i9 14900k and a rtx 4090 in all thier videos, I just don't have that kind of money! So I'll stick to my budget boards and I still have a great gaming experience at a fraction of the cost