The Quad Socket 64 Core Opteron Monster - The Most Insane Desktop PC
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
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In the past, I've covered some fascinating platforms like Intel Skulltrail and AMD Quad FX. But there was one more, even more difficult to find platform. And finally, here it is, the Quad Socket, 64 core Opteron.
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Sources
1) Archive.org/details/g4tv.com-video8216
2) • AMD Opteron 6100 Serie...
3) • Intel Quickpath
4) • AMD Opteron 6100 Serie...
5) • AMD Opteron 6200 & 420...
6) tweaktown.com/reviews/6438/supermicro-as-2042g-6rf-server-review/index.html
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - Overview
1:00 - History and context
2:10 - Not that rare?
2:24 - Housing issues
2:55 - The motherboard
3:55 - Powering it
4:07 - Case features
4:24 - Case and cooling mods
5:26 - Powering it up
6:02 - In Windows
6:33 - CPU specifications
6:56 - RAM
7:17 - Live performance
7:41 - Benchmarks
9:04 - Core to core latency
10:16 - GPU upgrade
11:05 - Gaming performance
12:58 - Multitasking
13:41 - Conclusion 
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People can sometimes overuse the term "beast" when it comes to naming older computer kit that was top-end at one time but this is a truly fantastic monster of a PC/workstation machine. My God.
@@raven4k998 Your CPU is 10 years younger than these 4, in computer terms if you can approach anything 10 years ahead it's quite a feat.
@@raven4k998 This CPU of yours has 10 years more development, it is literally the 3rd generation of ZEN architecture that had +50 - 70% better IPC than the Bulldozer architecture this CPU is based on.
And you can already see the improvement that his successor will bring with ZEN 4.
@@raven4k998 can you not read? The point of the comment is that this was a beast of a machine *for it's time.* Literally no one cares you went and bought a brand new 5950x, I've got one too and I'm still more impressed by this 10 year old system than yours or mine.
@@raven4k998 Tell me that to people with dual Epyc 128 core machines that will smash a 5950x anyday. God, for someone calling me a "kid" you sure act childish.
@@raven4k998 I'm a kid for not doing that even though I didn't even make the video? Wow, your cognitive dissonance is astounding.
I used to dream of having a quad-socket system about two decades ago.
I absolutely approve of this man's genteel refined tastes in old and rarer PCs, and have a new subscribe
Did you see the prototype P-PRO with 4 CPU's in Computer World in early 1995 as well? Man... When you are in a world of Amiga and ceramic 486's, then quad socket gold top is something straight out of the future.
@@pandemicneetbux2110 old? i still run my fx 8350 as my dailydriver
Quad socket 1 core each lol. Good thing they didnt go that route.
I still do lmao
"So, I've reduced it to *only* 128 GB."
Those are rookie numbers.
Insane PC, upgrade the CPUs to 6386 SE, those are Piledriver and have 200Mhz better all core clock
Thanks for the comment! I've got the Abu Dhabis in already, but the 6386s were too expensive sadly.
@@FullyBuffered the cpu system seems nice, all you need to do is use a pcie extender to external most pcie based equipment for at least 4 users.
I can only begin to imagine how terrifying a TR4 socket version of this concept would be, with the top end Threadripper or Epyc CPUs tearing tasks to pieces with ruthless speed
@@UNSCPILOT welcome to the world of mainframes and supecomputers
@@UNSCPILOT Sadly, it can't be done. They are so fast, that 4-way Infinity Fabric links would be a huge bottleneck.
It's completely insane to imagine that nowadays we have CPUs from AMD with 96 cores each, could it be that with 4 of them we also get close to a performance 10 years into the future?
Apparently, the EPYC 9754 will have 128 cores. Absolutely insane stuff.
Too Bad the Garbage licensing Terms nowadays enterprise Software keeps hardware producers from engineering 4 soket mainboards.
@@bubbabenali run enterprise versions youll be fine
true but consumer CPUs not all are performance cores.
Systems similar to this, but with K10, were somewhat popular for a while in HPC I think. Some time ago, I have personally used an old supercomputer cluster that had 48 core quad K10 nodes. The amount of RAM they could support was really quite good for the time.
I had a quad socket 6386 SE server to tinker around with. It pulled way too much power to be practical though. But, gaming performance is actually pretty good given the low clocks on archaic pile driver architecture. It was fun.
That sounds excellent - thanks for the comment!
Old school hardware! Damn. A machine like this would benefit a LOT from "project lasso" which modifies cpu and application affinities and applies on the go optimizations. It would be curious to see how much it would help, doing the exact same tests, but with project lasso running. The power consumption though, holy crap that thing sucks power!
Thank you for bringing up Project Lasso!
It's process lasso, not project lasso.
Interesting thing
This was my first video of yours I've seen, I'm glad this popped up on my feed here at YT. I love learning about and seeing old/somewhat vintage PC as I am somewhat new to the hobby of PC customization! Great video and I've subscribed to see more great content like this one, Thank you.
Thank you!
Ive seen so many titles like "the craziest PC ever!", etc etc. But wow, this might actually be it.
Very cool video. kinda surprised it doesnt have more views. Keep it up your style and content is going places!
Thanks!
Man you deserve a ton of subs. Awesome video keep uploading.
Oh my gosh! What a great workstation! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks - you're welcome! :)
Love it! Would be cool to see this machine running 4 x Opteron 6180 SEs. Maybe 48 x K10 cores will outperform 32 x Buldozer modules in some cases? 😁
Good point, I would like to see what the 48x K10s are like. If I can get them cheaply, it'll be very enticing. I too suspect the K10s could outperform the Bulldozers. Would also be better for scaling with less cores to handle.
@@FullyBuffered The K10 CPUs can be overclocked on your motherboard also. It used to be popular back in the day! There is a custom BIOS available which unlocks overclocking.
@@ronjatter I can confirm the modified BIOS can allow you to overclock, and it also works with Bulldozer and Piledriver Opterons.
Also, not too long ago I saw a madlad hit Desktop FX 8350 clockspeeds with 4x 6386SEs on a supermicro MoBo like the one above.
Imagine having 64 Piledriver cores running at 4.0GHz, that's quite the feat, and a big power bill too I guess lol.
@@reik019 No shit. Cooling the damn things would be a nightmare, too.
i ran 4 Opteron 6180SEs originally, and then "upgraded" to 4 Opteron 61xx ES (engineering samples). With the engineering samples i was able to run them all at 3.0 GHz fully stable. The individual cores could actually run at 3.5 - 3.6 GHz, but the power draw/heat generation was simple too much for the Noctua coolers to handle. The max i could run all cores without the motherboard rebooting was 3.2 GHz. Temps at 3.0 GHz would stabilize at around 56C running Intelburn test. You want to keep the 61xx chips under 60C. The nice thing about the Piledriver Opterons is that they can be run up higher temps wise.
i am curious what the power draw will be on my Quad Opteron setup running the 63xx ES chips at 4 GHz. Will know soon.
very nice vid mate! keep em coming!
Thanks, I will!
After flipping back and forth through this video, I’m convinced the rear-most upper cpu coolers fans are blowing at each other lol
wrestling fans
High quality video brother! Thank you for the content! You just earned a sub
Thanks! :)
I am watching this video on a Rackmounted Dell Poweredge 815 that is equipped almost exactly the same as far as CPUs and Ram go. I got 2 of them off of Offerup for $300, and have been using them to set up a home lab, and to better understand enterprise grade hardware and serve management. The strengths and weaknesses of this system still perplex me. I plan on using one as a virtualization server and the other Ive been using to learn Debian Server. Thanks for the 2 videos on this machine.
Yes! Offerup has given me access to so much decommissioned server hardware and workstations. Never paid more than a few hundred dollars and have found some pretty neat hardware. Really brings meaning to one mans trash is another persons treasure. Many of these configurations are speced out well above what the average consumer will need so for the averages persons application they are likely still sufficient for many tasks. Sure maybe not gaming but that was never really the purpose of making a quad socket system. For any "profession" oriented tasks there is limited reason why old enterprise grade hardware can't fit the bill.
Thanks for making this! I found a 64 core Opteron server offering at a cloud server provider and was curious what that kind of hardware might look like. Your video was perfect for satisfying my curiosity!
Thanks! I'm glad to hear :)
Hi I do believe windows server for it .
The fact that this thing get's beaten by a modern i5 is crazy to think about. Then again we've seen a lot of progress on the CPU side of things in the last couple of years. And of course Bulldozer was never that great to begin with. Still a beast of a machine tho (at least when it comes to power draw lol)
It is just as crazy to think that 10 years ago, this kinda performance was at least sorta available and could be at your desk if you had the cash.
That too!
Its a monster of a set up and ty it for bringing it to us!!
Thanks!
EXCELLENT VIDEO!
Good to see you back
Thanks!
Breathtaking monster! Thank you for this very good presentation! 👍
Fantastic work 👏 👍
Thank you! :D
That was a fun video!
If I remember correctly. Doom engine uses multiple small "jobs" with no main threads running. So these "jobs" were able to be spread out efficiently across all CPU cores, instead of relying on the app main thread to further divide workloads into CPU core/threads.
Would love to see the CPU upgrade to really show the absolute maximum performance from the platform. I have a huge interest in G34 but can't justify the cost of building a system just because right now. Also would like to see if Linux could utilize it better and to know what kind of GPU would typically bottleneck a system like that.
Brilliant video M8!. Amazing build. I haven’t had my own AMD multi socket. Must add to my collection of experience now wall art even if it’s old, looks cool.
Thanks!
*MAN* I miss the days of multiple processor motherboards. Opteron and Xeon days. Tyan was my favorite multi-processor motherboard manu.
Could you imagine how fast a quad socket Ryzen W5995 or whatever their newest treadripper chip is called, would be?
I know there's dual socket Epycs but I don't know if they're 4 socket capable.
@@mitlanderson They aren't quad-capable, nowadays servers are oriented to have the most power in the least sockets possible due to running costs on the system it runs, (think of it like the windows limitations we saw earlier on, bs like that) shit gets expensive when you see how many servers fit in a rack and how many racks are in a server farm.
Great you included three Cinebench Versions, thumbs up!
thank you very much for sharing this awesome build! it would be intesting, how it performs on tasks like FEA (FEM & CFD, direct and iterative solvers), where the performance depends on how good the CPU is connected to the RAM (less cores but many RAM-links and fast RAM). Did you run any PTS benchmarks? I noticed there are some tests suits espacially for HPC and FEA use cases...
BTW: is there something similar at the intel side of things?
I ended up with that particular motherboard off of an ebay purchase, however I did not have a case for it to go in. i ended up slightly modifying a corsair 900D. but it worked out for the most part. It's a beast running docker containers.
Still, though, this is crazy to think about. A computer from 2011 being *this* fast?
Thank you for posting 📫 this video 📹. Because you have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work 👍..
Thank you! Will do!
Very cool video! I've been in the homelab scene for a bit now and have been experimenting with lots of old decommissioned server hardware. Even for home use the reliability and general ease of use (depending on the manufacturer) has been a huge benefit for most of my projects. I have never played around with a quad socket system but do currently have a fairly beefy dual socket Xeon server from Dell that is running various web services and a large NAS. For diagnostics alone I wouldn't replace it with a standard consumer system. If you can consolidate the jobs of enough machines to one system these are an obvious solution though it's has to be worth the energy cost of course. After slapping in an older GPU these can be amazing virtualization of things like home media server and encoding machines. Was very useful when live streaming to have it function as a private relay server. Sky's the limit really and it's awesome to see others experimenting with these commonly discarded systems and giving them a new lease on life.
Good God. This PC really is a beast ! And it makes pressing the "start button" a really fun process ! Cheers !
Thanks for the comment!
This best thing I have ever seen, the way multiple virtual desktops run where each program dedicated to each CPU.
If I had this pc, my mom would prohibit me from using it due to the power it consumes and today’s power cost lol
My lights went dim up here in
Canada when you turned that beast on.
Nice find! Although I can't help to think how little difference it could've made just to take one fan off that top Noctua cooler and thus be able to keep the case intact. I mean the top fan positioned overhead is pulling the same air anyway :D Maybe I'm missing something.
Operons pull about 140 watts or more a piece And they don't have good low power C-states, so they run pretty much at full clock, even when idle. You're going to need the cooling. I had a quad 6386 SE that tinkered around with for a couple months.
@@TheNiteNinja19 My point being that you're literally just fan stacking at that end which is not effectively adding extra draft off that heatsink.
Ha yeah, I certainly wouldn't have modified it in this way, but oh well...
@@TheNiteNinja19 Interlagos and Abu Dhabi Opterons have four standard power states, two boost power states, plus C1E and C6 idle states. They can drop single cores, not just modules, down to 1400MHz (P4) when not heavily loaded, and generally don't exceed TDP under full load as is. Combined with them being fairly well binned to turbo below 1.25v they really don't need absolutely massive cooling. The unlocked Opterons can get by on even a 1U brick cooler up beyond 4GHz with just a single 80mm fan pointed at them.
1 fan per cooler works best, 1C is not worth the extra noise with two fans.
This PC never gets old
Subbed. Like your videos.
Thank you!
This is what my PC is basically :) Although i am using a slightly older revision SC748 SuperMicro case with an additional Supermicro GPU exhaust fan on the rear to pull extra heat out :) Motherboard is SuperMicro H8QGi-F in my case running a modified BIOS so i can overclock the ram. For CPUs i run 4 unlocked Opteron 61xx "extra spicy" at 3.0 Ghz normally. They can run up to 3.7 Ghz if i only run 2 per cpu die - the problem is the Noctua heat sinks just can't pull enough heat out. I built it back in 2014 and still use it today. Solid as a rock. Heavy too - about 80 lbs.
For optimal performance you'll want to run TurionPowerControl, and the OCNG BIOS. For my older 61xx chips OCNG allowed me to up the dram speed from DDR3-1333 to DDR3-1600. i tried some DDR3-1866 chips but i could not run at that speed - it seems the ram controllers on the 61xx chips just aren't capable. i can run them at DDR3-1600 at lower latency of course. OCNG also allows you to take advantage of the XMP settings on the RAM.
For gaming, i used TPC to run two cores at 3.7/3.8 GHz and the rest lower at 1.7 GHz, then used Windows server WSRM to assign the specific games to those specific high GHz cores. There is a setting in the BIOS that makes a large difference in gaming performance. It deals with the way memory is accessed. Node Interleaving. One setting helps with overall bandwidth, and the other is better for games (better latency).
One other tip. For optimal SSD performance on these boards - set C1E and Spread Spectrum to disabled... because on this board SSD performance gets screwed up with those enabled.
One thing i was not able to improve - the L3 cache times. Ie i could not overclock the L3 :( With the server chips AMD set that artificially low. It is a key overclocking setting with the K10 chips to get good gaming performance.
Nice to see another person is still using one of these :)
PS: My Cinebench R15 score was 3228.
PPS: pic:
hardforum.com/threads/g34-4p-supermicro-pics.1666414/#post-1042088438
PS: i've been playing around with Opteron 6328s in my Quad Opteron PC recently. Using OCNG to up the bus speed from 200 to 210, the system runs with a turbo speed of about 4 GHz now. This is at stock voltage. i haven't yet found the upper limit yet. Perhaps around 216? That would put these stock 6328s at about 4.1 GHz. The nice thing about upping the overall bus speed is that it also ups the CPU-NB speed (from 2 GHz to 2.16 GHz) which increases the L3 speed. Important for gaming.
i will be pulling these 6328s soon and replacing them with 63xx ES chips soon. Let me know if you would like to experiment with these 6328s. 4 of them would net you 32 cores, but running faster and cooler (max temp of only around 31-32C on HwInfo when running long benchmarks). The 63xx also use the Piledriver cores which are more efficient and have a bit more performance than the older bulldozer cores.
Kinda nuts to think about, but the 5800X scores that high in R23... and that's a quarter of the thread count... Crazy to see that kind of performance uplift given these two parts are effectively a decade apart!
Curious, would it be possible to fully utilize both 16x PCI-E slots in SLI or Crossfire? To get 100% out of each GPU?
the hot rodding on the case/cooling the previous owner did is the wildest part
It's certainly head scratching and not something I would have done. Especially given how loud the power supplies are and overpower everything else noise wise lol
that latency chart is what was epic for me in this video, subscribed!
hopefully linux or steam OS on this could be fun
Thanks!
@ 4:50 Noctua NH-U12DO-A3. What is the closest Intel version for LGA-2011 square ILM? Are those Secu2 ends hole spacing es,e if I swop out?
Quad sockets are soooo nice looking. And well, totally awesomme. First time I saw this configuration, was in Computer world magazine in 1995. When they featured a picture of a prototype with quad Pentium-PRO processors. I wanted one instantly, but some 20/22 years later, I found out that it never made it out of the prototype stage. Quad CPU with gold tops looked like something from the future back then.
this rig really is insane, would be dope seeing it with the 4way cf hd6870 from your previous video
also i love the modified server case, i have an old modified bluechip server case myself
I would like to see if there is any software that is optimized to take advantage of all those cores. Because it seems the HT bus is a bottleneck.. Any way to overclock the HT bus? Or any way try combine the NUMA nodes within the BIOS or is there a limitation?
I was seriously interested in this Quad Socket design back when it came out and then saw the benchmarks on various systems weren't that great overall... Thank you again for the awesome video!
Run a hypervisor and load it full of VMs.
Is that motherboard in the case the only one that is able to fit within this case or is it possible to use an E-ATX motherboard?
Eerlijk gezegd be n ik je reinste jaloers dat je zo'n build te pakken hebt gekregen. Chapeau! Maar heb je rekening gehouden met dat dit platform hooguit PCI-E 2.0 gebruikt? Goeie editing en gebruik van b-roll btw.
Dank!
It would be cool today having a quad 64 cores threadripper for the average consumer. 256 cores at 5 ghz!
That Supermicro front panel is really cool! 👍
This Supermicro case are great! 👍
Very Interesting
the sheer immensity of that case, my god its amazing
Wow! :)
That's a massive system!
Did you buy this in ebay U.K. kinds recently? I was eyeing it up if so lol
Awesome rig.
awesome and impressive, looking forward for the upgraded version 😮
Thanks - a CPU upgrade is in the works
This thing could run cyberpunk high graphics on purely cpu power
my eyes lit up when i saw the SLI stamp on the board, lol what a monster
I'm a huge fan of multi-socketed systems, I've notated that finding content creators that focus upon them almost explicitly in as great detail as you do an incredibly daunting and nearing impossible task! I own quite a few multi-socket PCs from a few different eras, i'm quite proud of my collection! -
- A Dell Poweredge R900, 128GB DDR2 (4x Xeon 7400 - 24x Core 2 cores!) I'm playing around with getting a graphics card to work in it for laughs, but it only has PCIx8 slots and no way to distribute power to the cards. (PLEASE COMMENT IF ANYONE HAS ANY ADVICE OR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW I MAY ACHIEVE THIS!)
- A Dell Precision 690 with the SLI upgrade! 64GB DDR2 , 2x Nvidia Quadro FX4800's in SLI (2x Xeon 5080 , 4 Netburst cores w/ 8 threads at 3.73Ghz, eat that i7!)
- A Supermicro X6DVL-EG, 8GB DDR-400 ECC, ATI Radeon X1900 XT (2x SL7ZC Xeon 3.60 GHz Socket 604) I was trying to mimic as close as I could get to a dual socket Pentium 4 computer as Dual Socket P4 478 Motherboards didn't exist! Funny thing is, these Pentium 4 Xeons have 2Mb of cache, making their clockspeed and cache on par with the legendary and nearly unobtainable Pentium 4 Extreme for the socket 478! ( I'm having trouble finding good x64 compatible drivers for the chipset for any version of windows, if anyone knows where I might find these, please let me know!)
- A Dual Processor 2009 Mac Pro 4,1 flashed to 5,1, 128GB DDR3 ECC, ATI Radeon 5770 Mac, (2x 6core Intel Xeon CPUS, I forget which exactly!) (This machine is currently inoperable and is having some serious instability with the RAM configurations, i'm considering removing the 2x 6-core Xeons and returning to some that are factory supported by the 4,1 firmware just for the sake of making it operable again.)
- A Dell Poweredge 2900, 48GB DDR2, 2x Xeon E5450s (I purchased this server at 12 years old with money I saved mowing lawns for $200, it single-handedly kickstarted my love for these multi-socketed systems! I've used it near to daily since I purchased it, it's hosted a countless number of game servers and web servers for me and my friend groups in the past!)
- A HPE ProLiant DL580 G7, 256GB DDR3, With a 1050ti! (4x Xeon E7-4870, 40 cores, 80 threads at 2.40Ghz! - I've lent this server to a friend who is using it as a GAMING COMPUTER currently! In the winter, his room stays warm, in the summer, it's constantly fighting with their AC and keeping the room almost unbearably hot! This server is running a version of Windows Server 2019, because Windows 10 won't install drivers for it correctly - If anyone knows a solution for this problem, it would be most appreciated as most games won't support Windows Server 2019!)
- Finally, I've got 3x HP Proliant DL360's w/ 2x Pentium 4 Xeons 3.0Ghz 6GB DDR-400 ECC (These were free of charge when I purchased another HP Server and I don't have many chances to use them, but I keep them around because they're only 1U and don't take up much space on my home made Rack. They're all fully operational and are quite cute!)
Is it possible to do for 4 people to use 4 different workplaces on 4 monitors in one os?
I've collected a ton of dual socket and dual slot motherboards, but don't have even a single quad-CPU setup, so this is most fascinating to see. My work machines are all dual Xeon's. Prices are ridiculously low for systems that are about a decade old with often as many as 32+ threads on them, all retried from the corporate world. Countless Dell's T series machines for under $400. It's a techie's paradise. But I remember the days, when smartphones and tablets were going mainstream and everyone was throwing away their old PC's. It felt like the stream of parts wasn't going to end. I got so many dual motherboards for free, and then suddenly all "retro" was gone. All absorbed by collectors and gold scalpers. And now old parts cost more than when they were new. Sigh.
At least, for those of us who didn't score a quad board, there are youtube clips to look at and admire.
Are one of those noctua fans backwards? Looks like the top left heat sink exhaust is backwards.
A few people have pointed this out yeah - am going to correct this.
Very cool! I don't know if it's been brought up already but you can put the Opteron 6386 SE processors in here and even overclock them with a bios flash. Look up "OCNG5" for more details on that bios flash, if interested. I have that exact setup but mine is in a Xigmatek Elysium case with a clear side panel and RGB of course. I use to use it for folding at home and as a media server but it just doesn't make logical sense to run this power hungry beast 24/7 now. I still fire it up now and again for nostalgia though. Glad to see people are still tinkering with this old hardware. Being server components it certainly will last a lifetime in home use applications. Good luck and enjoy!
Thanks for the comment! That sounds like an excellent build :) I am indeed aware of the OCNG flash for these boards and have some vague plans for it
Can't wait to see where this is going
I'm running dual socket 16-core opteron machine as my home server. It's from 2009 but still runs pretty well.
Tomb raider u said ran 36 cores maybe because of DX12 well did u try it in dx 11 to see the diffence?
Man i love your channel. You just realized my dream by having 4 cpus.
Glad to hear! :)
How much would it be to buy?
unbelievebale man what a monster !! nice really nice !! 👀💯✔ i never see a mainboard like this crazy !!
Absolutely fascinating video, thank you so much for sharing. In the cinebench results, the system was placed around an alder lake i5, it's a shame in game performance doesn't also reflect that. It must just be that games aren't optimized around systems like this, obviously, but I was expecting a lot better results than 41 fps in GTA V. My old athlon x4 ii 640 with a gtx 1050 and 8 gb ram puts up much better numbers.
Assigning programs, tools and games to their own specific CPU, is one hell of a feature. Kind og manual pre emptive multitasking if you like.
I ran Minecraft servers on a dual Opteron system. Pinning each server to specific cores made a big difference to performance and stopped one server affecting the performance of another.
it´s crazy that this old PC can deliver Ryzen 9 3900 performance in multicore, having one of those for rendering 15 years ago would had been awesome
Bit will it allow Chrome with 30 tabs?
I might have missed it, did you over clock it?
The construction of such workstations was really amazing and magnificent, but definitely overkill. I recently acquired a Dell T7810 with dual E5-2699 V3 with 128G ECC ram. Dell T7810 was designed and marketed in 2014. It scores over 4,000 with Cinebench R15,and 22,000 with Cinebench 23R. But in todays real world computation, such as Zip or script code operation, it is only as good as a single Gen-10 i7 CPU.
This type of machine was really designed for running lots of virtual machines for a business. Though it's really cool seeing it here, the 4 cpu ones are pretty rare. Though I have seen a few work stations with just dual cpus which makes more sense for work stations. You should review one of the dual G5 power macs. Those were always cool.
I run a dual-socket workstation myself, I'd love to have a quad-socket just for fun lol... it would make a neat system for virtual machines like you said
Have you tried using process explorer and assigning the affinity to all of them?
Yes I did, that is the default setting also
Here is a Vulcan game you may wish to try: Baldur's Gate 3. While it's still in "early access" its VERY dev updates sometimes even weekly. This is one of the games I still need to load in to my new Asus x570 rig with my AMD 5900X I just built last week. I'd be curious to see the results you get off this with what you have there. Cheers!
Thanks for the comment - I'll keep that game in mind.
neat rig. i ran one of these for a while. i went from 6128's to 6328's and it helped a lot. only 8 cores each, but the 6328's have the highest boost clocks for these sockets at 3.8ghz. the loudest fans in mine were those two little fans on the chipsets that ran at a million rpm, i installed a fan controller and ran them at half speed and it made a huge difference in the noise and i only ran them at 100% when rendering.
The Quad 6380 can hit 3.8 on 64 Cores a once
Absolute Beast!
One question.
How much memory per socket are you leaving? as if it gets too low for watever you are running you are going to force the computer to access the memory available addresed by other sockets, with performance penalties comparable to a GPU with it's VRAM full using the main system's memory.
Let's not forget this is Bulldozer, an architecture that is way too starved for memory bandwidth, and in my limited experience with Bulldozer's and Piledriver's with the Orochi die, the performance does scale better with more RAM sticks than with Higher memory speeds, obviously it scales best with both, but what the Supermicro manual actually warned you about (When it said ''it works optimally with 4 dimms used per socket) is that when the Memory controller sees that both channels are fully populated, the memory controller switches to what I call ''Server Mode'' (It does actually activate on desktop FX as well, not surprising as both chips use the same Die as the desktop FX did use), limiting memory at a maximum of 1333MHz but the bandwidth is marginally affected, the issue is the latency, so, for optimal results using the setup of half of the dimm slots unused, you would very likely want to have memory running at least at 1866MHz or use all the slots and get a penalty in latency. Obviously the penalty is higher in the desktop chips, if not exclusive, due to the high clockspeeds they run at.
You could theoretically work around this by just tightening the memory timings as low as possible, as close as 8-7-9-7 (which will be comparable to run a memory kit at 1866MHz despite the physical clock being still 1333MHz) and still get to use all the memory slots.
I would say that there is more testing to be done before concluding the actual performance of the machine.
If you need more exact info, just tell me and I will see how to give it to you.
BTW, those are SE chips, if memory serves me right, they are unlocked in terms of VID and Core Clock, so it could be that you only need a software utility to handle the clockspeeds without flashing the BIOS, I have one japanese utility named K15TK, but I'm uncertain about if it works in server hardware (On all consumer Bulldozer and Bulldozer derivatives it does work, tested in an FX 8120-Bulldozer, FX 9590-Piledriver, A10 7870K-Steamroller and FX 9800P-Excavator), be aware that the program cannot directly change the BCLK and cannot exceed the highest non-turbo state if the chip is locked, however, it does make the turbo deactivation a lot more tolerant (about 5-15% on Orochi Octacores depending on TDP, the lower the TDP, the higher the percentage is, 10% on Kaveri and Godavari Quad core APUs and around 25% on mobile Excavator Quad cores), so the turbo boost tends to linger a little more before going back to base clocks.
You can grab it here: www.mediafire.com/file/byad0ogk5foenmy/K15TK.zip/file
I did translate the readme, but fanboy's japanese can only take you so far. It should be mostly correct, though.
The afterburner readout is ri-gosh-darn-donkulous. The vulkan usage is actually insane as well, potentially unifying the system as best as it could be .
My gaming machine was a Dell precision with dual xeon x5650s. I found that switching from NUMA to UMA memory architecture really helped performance in some games, as it trucks windows into thinking it's a 12 core, not 2 6 cores
I think it would be really interesting to see how fast it can compile Gentoo
Yes, and this would probably be a more realistic workload for this kind of architecture.
This type of beast was my dream back in tech school in 04
there it is!!💫
That thing looks epic, pun not intended. I've currently got 32-core threadripper system that I was using for compiling. I wish I could afford a full 64 core EYPC system.
That’s awesome - EPYC systems are sweet. A while back there was a reasonable deal on a 32 core model which was very tempting.
Kid finds elusive quad socket board... proceeds to play games on it
How times have changed, my first IBM-compatible computer was an 8088 CPU that ran at 4.77 Mhz. It ran DOS 3 if I remember correctly. A 30 MB hard drive costs $300.00
Currently running single socket Opteron 6180 SE as router / NAS with Debian. Paired with Mellanox ConnectX-3 10Gbe NIC and 64GB DDR3 REG ECC it does perfectly fine as home server. Wouldn't even bother trying it as gaming PC tho. Despite being single socket it's still split in two NUMA domains of 6 cores each and runs only at 2.5GHz so it's far from being optimal for gaming. Performance would be similar / slightly worse than lowest clocked Phenom II x6.
Cool. I have a server with 4x Xeon E7-4870 cpu's that are from the same time period. They are 10c 20t each and I get 3273 score in cinebench r15. :)
Edit: actually, I had some wierd problem with windows where the cpu's didn't want to boost up fully. Only one cpu ran on max all core turbo, so the results should be a bit higher.
The Opteron 6228 8 core piledrivers were the fastest clocked units from the Opteron era, they'll get up to 3.8 under boost. If you want to play around with the dual/quad configurations, those are your best bet if you want to try some gaming. It won't do well, but still. DDR3 unreg/non ECC at 1600 is highly recommended
as well.