"This is a system that you would want as a business and not as a consumer"... Dear Sir, you're adressing the internet, at least one Lunatic out there took that as a challenge!
@@jim52356 No game engine can properly utilize more than one GPU. That's why SLI and Crossfire are dead. And in the ones that can, you have all sorts of visual artefacts like screen tearing and micro-stuttering that lead to gaming experience that's actually worse than with a single GPU. Really, more than one GPU only makes sense in cases where there's no need to precisely synchronize the GPU workloads. (i.e. no need for a stable, high frame rate)
@@AvadirectWilling to pay for answer. I have 256RAM, Threadripper Pro and 2 3090’s on my system but can’t get the restart/sleep feature to work. The front peripheral inputs(type C & USB) are extremely slow and lag my computer. The back inputs work perfectly. Micro Center had no answer as they built it for me. All the best!
@@ChristianValentine Hi Christian! It's hard to tell without troubleshooting, but my team seems to think it's a driver issue. They recommend checking out your graphic drivers and reinstalling them. Newer versions of windows will remove Sleep Mode if graphic drivers are not installed. We would consider a short, but this seems less likely since Type C & USB are both being affected. Best of luck with troubleshooting your issue!
Great work! Came across this as I make a parts wish list for my future data science workstation, I’ll likely have to build myself because I can only afford parts piece by piece. The Thermaltake case having 2x space is interesting, would’ve never thought of that vs something like the Corsair 7000D
The video showcases a high-end workstation build featuring **four NVIDIA RTX 4090 GPUs**, a **Threadripper Pro 5995WX 64-core processor**, and other premium components designed for extreme performance. Let's break down what such a system means in terms of performance and usage: ### Performance Implications: 1. **GPU Power**: - Four RTX 4090s are capable of delivering massive computational power, especially in tasks that rely heavily on parallel processing (e.g., machine learning, 3D rendering, video encoding). In **Blender** or similar rendering applications, this configuration can drastically reduce rendering times, allowing faster project turnover. - Benchmarks in the video show near-linear scaling of performance in GPU-heavy tasks, with the system achieving 62,000 points in **Locksmarch GPU performance tests**, almost quadrupling the performance of a single RTX 4090. This means high efficiency in multi-GPU setups. 2. **CPU Power**: - The **AMD Threadripper 5995WX** with 64 cores provides incredible multi-core performance, especially for tasks like **video rendering**, **3D animation**, and **scientific computing** that can leverage parallelization. - While the CPU may not excel as much in single-core performance, its ability to handle vast multi-core tasks complements the GPU rendering power effectively. 3. **Memory and Storage**: - With **256 GB of DDR4 memory**, the system can handle vast amounts of data processing at once, making it ideal for memory-intensive applications like **big data analytics**, **simulation**, or **scientific computing**. - Fast NVMe storage ensures that large project files load quickly, improving overall system responsiveness, especially when dealing with 4K/8K video or large datasets. 4. **Liquid Cooling**: - The use of custom **EKWB water blocks** and softline tubing for liquid cooling ensures that even under extreme workloads, the GPUs and CPU are kept at optimal temperatures, which is crucial for preventing thermal throttling and maintaining consistent performance. ### Who is it For? - This setup is designed for **professional workloads**, not gaming or consumer use. It’s ideal for businesses and individuals working in fields such as **3D animation**, **video rendering**, **AI development**, **machine learning**, or **scientific simulations**. These industries benefit from reducing the time taken for rendering or processing, thus allowing for more projects to be completed in a shorter period.
### ROI and Business Impact: - The investment in a system like this, though extremely expensive, can pay for itself by significantly speeding up workflows, which in turn can generate more revenue, especially in rendering-intensive industries.
### Summary: This workstation build is a powerhouse, combining cutting-edge GPUs with an industry-leading CPU, massive memory, and effective cooling. It's designed for enterprises needing top-tier performance for demanding applications and is an excellent example of a workstation that can deliver almost unprecedented productivity and speed in professional environments. ============================== The cost of a system like the one described in the video can vary significantly depending on factors like customization, region, and component availability. However, we can estimate the approximate cost based on current pricing (as of late 2023) for the components used in this build: ### Breakdown of Estimated Costs: 1. **Four NVIDIA RTX 4090 GPUs**: - Each RTX 4090 costs around **$1,600 to $2,000**, depending on the model and cooling solution. - Total for four RTX 4090s: **$6,400 to $8,000**. 2. **AMD Threadripper 5995WX 64-core Processor**: - This high-end workstation CPU costs around **$6,500 to $7,000**. 3. **256 GB DDR4 Memory (Kingston, 3200 MHz)**: - High-capacity RAM like this costs about **$1,000 to $1,200**, depending on the brand and specific configuration. 4. **Motherboard: ASUS WRX80 Sage (SE)**: - One of the top-end motherboards for the Threadripper platform, costing around **$1,000 to $1,200**. 5. **Storage (Western Digital Black SN850 NVMe SSDs)**: - A 1 TB NVMe SSD costs about **$100 to $150**, and a 4 TB version costs around **$350 to $450**. - Total for storage: **$450 to $600**. 6. **Thermaltake W200 Case**: - This large, premium case costs around **$400 to $600**. 7. **Liquid Cooling (EKWB custom loop for CPU and GPUs)**: - Custom liquid cooling setups (including radiators, water blocks, tubing, and fittings) can cost **$1,000 to $2,000**, depending on the complexity and parts used. 8. **Two Power Supplies (likely high-wattage, ~1500W units)**: - Each high-wattage PSU costs around **$300 to $500**, so for two, the cost would be **$600 to $1,000**. 9. **Windows 11 Pro for Workstations**: - This version of Windows costs around **$200 to $400**, depending on licensing. ### Total Estimated Cost: Adding everything up, the total estimated cost for a build like this would be: - **Lower end**: **$16,550** - **Higher end**: **$21,400** This is just an estimate, and the price could be higher or lower depending on specific component choices, labor costs for building and testing the system, and additional features like extended warranties or support. Custom-built workstations like this are typically investments for businesses, not individual consumers, due to their high cost and specialized performance.
What about 4 nvme ssds + 2 gpus for a total of 48 pci lanes? Is the 7950X capable to handle well 128GB and the available 24 pci lanes? Is it better 2 channel memory ddr5 or 8ch ddr4 ecc registered ? I see the bottleneck using 2xgpus when the encoder is used, the gpu works at 8X.
"We have occupied all 8 DIMM slots on this board for maximum memory performance." Maximum memory performance is on every board achieved by populating one DIMM per memory controller channel. On a 12 DIMM slot 6 channel board, you are best advised to populate 6 slots: the ones farthest away from the CPU. Populating the 6 slots nearest to the CPU would give better performance but also cause system instability up to crashes.
I didn't get how you connect all GPUs together but they are not connected trough SLI. Do the programs just use the motherboard available GPUs trough their docks? Do regular motherboards do this or they always need SLI connector? Great build. Thanks for the content!
can 3 RTX 4060 beat RTX 4080 , please i want to see this in action i am wonder , like see , i am concern about the price , if i check 1 RTX 4060 having 8GB ram , and Cuda Core 3000 so three card will be having 24GB Ram and 9000 Cuda Core !! , which is like same RTX 4080, in 4060 we will have 8GB more Ram , so , what will be performance will it give performance or not ??
You keep talking about return on our investment, but where is amount of electricity being burnt with 4 GPUs? I don't know about many rendering apps being able to effectively utilise 2, let alone 4 GPUs. So 4 GPUs to me sound like literally money being burned.
Can the resolution and sample count of the Blender GPU benchmark be increased so we can see scaling from 1→2→4 4090s under a more realistic load? A scene that uses more than 24gb vram would also be useful. Thanks
I only have one question. How do you plug the cables? Which 4090 is connected to the monitor? Or do you simply plug it into motherboard so monitor works with integrated gpu and control the 4090s with software?
The general answer is, it depends on what app(s) you are using. Gaming - It's not worth it for most gaming. There are only 13 games that natively support NVIDIA SLI. Games that don't support SLI can run, but they won't utilize the processing. The performance gain is likely not worth the cost difference compared to a single high end card. These combos can have some issues with crashing on some games just by having the two cards installed. Rendering - A lot of apps support two GPUs. Certain apps like Cinema4D allow a combo of two GPUs to both be utilized fully; the cards don't have to match model either. The overall price and power cost is the main thing to consider. If you know you need more processing in an app that utilizes two, then it's worth it. You will need to make sure the PSU is able to handle the extended power load. GPUs usually take the most power anyway.
Maybe dumb question, but I don't know much about building a pc. But for rendering if I have an RTX 3060 and get an RTX 4090, can those run together and would there be any benefit to that?
@@stylplus1649 thanks for the reply, yeah I had figured it would be best to just use the 4090 and either keep the 3060 as backup or sell it. However now that the new 4080 super came out Im thinking about how that would compare to the standard 4090
@@gabrielWachong if you’re doing by heavy workloads like similar to AI compute then you want something with atleast 24gb VRAM. The 4090 would be the best choice so best to double up on them and buikd a cluster if you have the funds.
@@stylplus1649 yeah I'm mostly using it for 3D and video rendering. Hmm so the 4090 is still better than the 4080 super in that regard then. I'm not able to stack two of them atm, but I will go with one 4090 for the moment. Maybe add a second through the year.
I disagree based on my build with 4 rtx 3090 performance difference is huge when I use 2 rtx 3090 but with the addition of 3rd and 4th gpu the returns are very minimals very very minimals not a lot of difference based on investment made.
I'm told by Asus that this can be done with their MB and cards. Though looking at his test results, I don't think they are as great as he makes them, at least for a 2 card rig. Renderfarms still have a place.
@@lanceevans1689 thanks for the reply buddy. I just wanted to know that because I'm going to buy a 3060 to my currently building pc, so i can update it with another 4070 super or ti super if possible. I'm doing 3d rendering stuff and unreal engine works. What would you recommend? Should I save money and directly buy a 4070 ti super instead?
@@nashonightmare Since replying I saw a better dual rig video by BadSeed Tech rendering with DaVici, and getting good gains. Granted, not 3d. A commentor stated mixed cards will run at the speed of the slower card, but I'm not 100% that is true. Plus, my new rig is Ubuntu, so may be diff than Win. Look for my article on the build in 3D World mag, in a month or two. I used a 4060Ti, and will put a 4060 in as a second card when time permits (and when I find another psu to pci cable! lol)
the trouble to go through to buy 4090ies and customize for watercooling leads to only one conclusion: to buy the professional RTX 6000 or even RTX A8000. no need to pimp a ford escort for the money that would buy you the mustang itself.
Hi, do you know of any alternative to this motherboard for an Intel I9 14900K chip? I'm currently planning an Unreal Engine computer with two RTX 4090 cards but can't find a suitable motherboard. Thank you
Our sales team can help you configure a suitable PC if you're having trouble finding compatible components. However, take a look at the ASUS ROG Strix z790 gaming wifi. It should work as long as true 3-slot 4090s are used.
Most International shipping must be arranged by the buyer and you'll need to contact our sales team directly to place the order. (: But it is possible!
You won't see an increase in game performance with multiple GPUs. (: Most modern games will NOT utilize multiple graphics cards. If you're trying to get better game performance by buying a second GPU, you're going to have a bad time.
im trying to install a seccond gpu which is a 3070 on my PC. i already have on 3080ti installed. I have enough power but after installation, there is a lag when I move my mouse and frequent crashes. I tried removing all drivers and doing a fresh install with DDU. my motherboard is asus rog strix x570 E.... Please let me know what I'm doing wrong. could it be something with pcie lane support?
Have you tried installed the Studio drivers, as opposed to the Game Ready? If both cards were identical, you could get away with the Game Ready drivers. Since you are installing two different GPUs, try the Studio drivers as those are designed for end-users which use their PCs for any creative work; it positions and utilizes the GPUs differently.
In order to sandwich four cards, you need a terminal block that allows coolant to flow through each card. Two-way terminal blocks are somewhat (barely) common. However quad-terminal blocks don’t exist for RTX 40 series blocks, so we had to space them in order to run tubing to each card. Plus, splitting up the cards allows us to run two separate loops a bit easier, ensuring everything installed in the system is cooled as effectively as possible.
@@Avadirect - Question - Is there a MATX (Intel/AMD), is there a motherboard that will support a dual 4090 at 4.0 x 16, without reducing the load at X8 or etc?
@@lhbbq Most mATx boards are limited to desktop-socket processors like Intel Core series or AMD Ryzen. Those processors don’t have the kind of PCIe bandwidth necessary to provide 16x/16x PCIe slots without resorting to 8x/8x, or 16x/8x. This is why we always recommend Threadripper for anything that requires unadulterated 16x PCIe bandwidth. If any one manufacturer was brave enough to release a WRX80 mATX board, you better believe we would be building solutions with it!
If u had 4 4090s, what would u do with em? Dude wdym what would you do with them 😂😂... I cant find anything that would max out 2 that I can find. I'D probably give away 2 of them
four 4090, what are u gonna use them for as a consumer anyway? You can only use one of them, and the other 3 will be useless. Having more then one Graphics Card does not equal more Performance. You actually need Programms that can utilize all 4 Graphics Cards, and even if you have that, its not like double or triple or even four times the power. If you tell them all to do the same thing, they block each other.
Huhn? Machine learning and code acceleration, 3D rendering (Blender)... Where have you been? Are you stuck on the entire SLI is dead thing? I have two 3090's using NVLink that scale to 198% of 200% using Blender (link not required). On benchmarks such as time spy, I'm getting 4090 numbers! Let's not talk about CUDA (Debian Bookworm makes an awesome platform for AI if done the Debian way) and computation acceleration. Are we a gamer only? The remark is polarized and ad hominem. Personal render farm even comes to mind. Renting out the service even comes to mind. What about an arcade scenario powered by say a Threadripper Pro with GPU pass-through using a Type 1 Hypervisor with multiple gaming VMs? Wow! I just don't have the funds. I've the imagination! Give it a try for real. Many of my ideas are limited by scale. Drop that hardware in my lap; yup, I can create a need for the equipment and generate capital. Just saying.
We explain in the video that a configuration like this would most likely be seen in a business setting. (: Plenty of applications benefit from multiple GPUs nowadays. This is not a gaming PC.
@@squirrel6687not only blender but keyshot as well can easily utilize and combine Vram without needing an Nvlink bridge, tbh for me that's already a blessing and a half
Half of this video was sales. If you want to make a commercial make a commercial and not an information video. You realize 99 percent of the people watching this video are hobbyists who would never pay a third party to build them a pc?
Lol……….and your point is………….. I still call myself a custom builder, yes………..but my builds make sense. So……….what’s your market for these rigs? Huge I imagine………..lmfao! You’ve just insulted every customer PC builder out there. That should increase your subscribers. 🤔👁️🫤
Hiya! Multi-GPU PCs excel in certain rendering and AI use cases. (: We wouldn't recommend them to every customer, but those using specific software will absolutely benefit from a workstation configuration like this.
cant even get one 4090 bro.
Why all us former NVidia gamers are buying AMD now.
40 series is stupid who cares about getting more fps then your monitor just get a 3060
Ya this guys got them!
@@Manguy9or u can get whatever u want and whatever u can afford brokie
@@Manguy9 it says workstation in the title bruh
96gb of VRAM, nvidia is sending their black helicopters for you bucko.
I'm ready for 'em.
He is going to run Helldivers at 8k 300fps+ minimum with that setup!
"This is a system that you would want as a business and not as a consumer"... Dear Sir, you're adressing the internet, at least one Lunatic out there took that as a challenge!
It's great for a 3D artist. For gamers it would suck as only one GPU will be used during gameplay.
What if a gamer was running say 4 displays each at 4k? Wouldn't it then make sense to have multiple GPUs?
@@jim52356 if i have 3 monitors, can i have my strongest GPU on the game and the weaker one on displays??
@@jim52356 No a single GPU would still render the game on all monitors.
@@jim52356 No game engine can properly utilize more than one GPU. That's why SLI and Crossfire are dead.
And in the ones that can, you have all sorts of visual artefacts like screen tearing and micro-stuttering that lead to gaming experience that's actually worse than with a single GPU.
Really, more than one GPU only makes sense in cases where there's no need to precisely synchronize the GPU workloads. (i.e. no need for a stable, high frame rate)
It's great for AI engineers. Especially those who are fine tuning or training LLMs
This is the GPU Police! I'll take those GPU's thank you. Expensive contraband.
do you have a warrant
@@AvadirectWilling to pay for answer. I have 256RAM, Threadripper Pro and 2 3090’s on my system but can’t get the restart/sleep feature to work. The front peripheral inputs(type C & USB) are extremely slow and lag my computer. The back inputs work perfectly. Micro Center had no answer as they built it for me. All the best!
@@ChristianValentine Hi Christian!
It's hard to tell without troubleshooting, but my team seems to think it's a driver issue.
They recommend checking out your graphic drivers and reinstalling them. Newer versions of windows will remove Sleep Mode if graphic drivers are not installed.
We would consider a short, but this seems less likely since Type C & USB are both being affected.
Best of luck with troubleshooting your issue!
4 4090s! Cool, but can it play Crysis?
Thank you for posting 📫 this video 📹. You have a new subscriber 🎉. Keep up the great 👍 work..
Thank you for the sub!
Very nice indeed! I LOVE Thermaltake cases and have the single system version case made by Thermaltake. Well worth the money.
They're great cases for their price! (:
If I had pc like this I would play Minecraft
Great work! Came across this as I make a parts wish list for my future data science workstation, I’ll likely have to build myself because I can only afford parts piece by piece. The Thermaltake case having 2x space is interesting, would’ve never thought of that vs something like the Corsair 7000D
Just found your channel. Excellent Content. Another sub for you!
I wonder if this can be run 24/7 off solar. I'm sure the panels would pay for themselves quickly if you're using 2k+ watts all day.
I mean anything is possible, you would just need enough solar panels to run and charge a battery bank at the same time.
I can run two of these systems off solar with lifepo4 battery backup of 3 days overcast.
Amazing video! I need me a multi 4090 workstation and these videos are edging me so good. Dude you look like Eric from @commentiquette 😂
The video showcases a high-end workstation build featuring **four NVIDIA RTX 4090 GPUs**, a **Threadripper Pro 5995WX 64-core processor**, and other premium components designed for extreme performance. Let's break down what such a system means in terms of performance and usage:
### Performance Implications:
1. **GPU Power**:
- Four RTX 4090s are capable of delivering massive computational power, especially in tasks that rely heavily on parallel processing (e.g., machine learning, 3D rendering, video encoding). In **Blender** or similar rendering applications, this configuration can drastically reduce rendering times, allowing faster project turnover.
- Benchmarks in the video show near-linear scaling of performance in GPU-heavy tasks, with the system achieving 62,000 points in **Locksmarch GPU performance tests**, almost quadrupling the performance of a single RTX 4090. This means high efficiency in multi-GPU setups.
2. **CPU Power**:
- The **AMD Threadripper 5995WX** with 64 cores provides incredible multi-core performance, especially for tasks like **video rendering**, **3D animation**, and **scientific computing** that can leverage parallelization.
- While the CPU may not excel as much in single-core performance, its ability to handle vast multi-core tasks complements the GPU rendering power effectively.
3. **Memory and Storage**:
- With **256 GB of DDR4 memory**, the system can handle vast amounts of data processing at once, making it ideal for memory-intensive applications like **big data analytics**, **simulation**, or **scientific computing**.
- Fast NVMe storage ensures that large project files load quickly, improving overall system responsiveness, especially when dealing with 4K/8K video or large datasets.
4. **Liquid Cooling**:
- The use of custom **EKWB water blocks** and softline tubing for liquid cooling ensures that even under extreme workloads, the GPUs and CPU are kept at optimal temperatures, which is crucial for preventing thermal throttling and maintaining consistent performance.
### Who is it For?
- This setup is designed for **professional workloads**, not gaming or consumer use. It’s ideal for businesses and individuals working in fields such as **3D animation**, **video rendering**, **AI development**, **machine learning**, or **scientific simulations**. These industries benefit from reducing the time taken for rendering or processing, thus allowing for more projects to be completed in a shorter period.
### ROI and Business Impact:
- The investment in a system like this, though extremely expensive, can pay for itself by significantly speeding up workflows, which in turn can generate more revenue, especially in rendering-intensive industries.
### Summary:
This workstation build is a powerhouse, combining cutting-edge GPUs with an industry-leading CPU, massive memory, and effective cooling. It's designed for enterprises needing top-tier performance for demanding applications and is an excellent example of a workstation that can deliver almost unprecedented productivity and speed in professional environments.
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The cost of a system like the one described in the video can vary significantly depending on factors like customization, region, and component availability. However, we can estimate the approximate cost based on current pricing (as of late 2023) for the components used in this build:
### Breakdown of Estimated Costs:
1. **Four NVIDIA RTX 4090 GPUs**:
- Each RTX 4090 costs around **$1,600 to $2,000**, depending on the model and cooling solution.
- Total for four RTX 4090s: **$6,400 to $8,000**.
2. **AMD Threadripper 5995WX 64-core Processor**:
- This high-end workstation CPU costs around **$6,500 to $7,000**.
3. **256 GB DDR4 Memory (Kingston, 3200 MHz)**:
- High-capacity RAM like this costs about **$1,000 to $1,200**, depending on the brand and specific configuration.
4. **Motherboard: ASUS WRX80 Sage (SE)**:
- One of the top-end motherboards for the Threadripper platform, costing around **$1,000 to $1,200**.
5. **Storage (Western Digital Black SN850 NVMe SSDs)**:
- A 1 TB NVMe SSD costs about **$100 to $150**, and a 4 TB version costs around **$350 to $450**.
- Total for storage: **$450 to $600**.
6. **Thermaltake W200 Case**:
- This large, premium case costs around **$400 to $600**.
7. **Liquid Cooling (EKWB custom loop for CPU and GPUs)**:
- Custom liquid cooling setups (including radiators, water blocks, tubing, and fittings) can cost **$1,000 to $2,000**, depending on the complexity and parts used.
8. **Two Power Supplies (likely high-wattage, ~1500W units)**:
- Each high-wattage PSU costs around **$300 to $500**, so for two, the cost would be **$600 to $1,000**.
9. **Windows 11 Pro for Workstations**:
- This version of Windows costs around **$200 to $400**, depending on licensing.
### Total Estimated Cost:
Adding everything up, the total estimated cost for a build like this would be:
- **Lower end**: **$16,550**
- **Higher end**: **$21,400**
This is just an estimate, and the price could be higher or lower depending on specific component choices, labor costs for building and testing the system, and additional features like extended warranties or support. Custom-built workstations like this are typically investments for businesses, not individual consumers, due to their high cost and specialized performance.
Love it, keep it up!
What about 4 nvme ssds + 2 gpus for a total of 48 pci lanes? Is the 7950X capable to handle well 128GB and the available 24 pci lanes? Is it better 2 channel memory ddr5 or 8ch ddr4 ecc registered ? I see the bottleneck using 2xgpus when the encoder is used, the gpu works at 8X.
"We have occupied all 8 DIMM slots on this board for maximum memory performance."
Maximum memory performance is on every board achieved by populating one DIMM per memory controller channel. On a 12 DIMM slot 6 channel board, you are best advised to populate 6 slots: the ones farthest away from the CPU. Populating the 6 slots nearest to the CPU would give better performance but also cause system instability up to crashes.
I didn't get how you connect all GPUs together but they are not connected trough SLI. Do the programs just use the motherboard available GPUs trough their docks? Do regular motherboards do this or they always need SLI connector? Great build. Thanks for the content!
SLI is completely dead now, modern applications use PCIe to connect both cards
Super nice! Our lab is looking for a workstation like this in 4Q2024.
10 years from now this will fit in the palm of your hand and we will all have one.
Given the trend of gpu increasing in size i doubt it.
Also there are limits on miniaturization
I didn't even know we were still doing SLI these days. 😮
Only in a few very specific scenarios!
Some applications can benefit from multiple GPUs, but not many.
As an AI enthusiast and gamer, I can confirm dual GPU IS IN FACT still worth it for this gamer
wow!
Is there space in there for a 32TB HDD? and how will this perform in video editing?
Unusual question, would multiple 4090s work better for an 8k stereo vr photorealistic simulator? (Dcs) would it work better than one?
Why are you guys not using double amount of RAM to accommodate the dual 4090's ?
He said it has 256GB of memory. Not enough? lol
can 3 RTX 4060 beat RTX 4080 , please i want to see this in action i am wonder , like see , i am concern about the price , if i check 1 RTX 4060 having 8GB ram , and Cuda Core 3000
so three card will be having 24GB Ram and 9000 Cuda Core !! , which is like same RTX 4080, in 4060 we will have 8GB more Ram , so , what will be performance will it give performance or not ??
how is the 4 gpus linked together O_O? i though SLI and NVlink not longer work with 4-series gpu?
Professional applications don't need a bridge
How do you have the extra 2 gpus plugged behind without a board? could you fit 2 extra more gpus at the back?
You keep talking about return on our investment, but where is amount of electricity being burnt with 4 GPUs? I don't know about many rendering apps being able to effectively utilise 2, let alone 4 GPUs. So 4 GPUs to me sound like literally money being burned.
Can the resolution and sample count of the Blender GPU benchmark be increased so we can see scaling from 1→2→4 4090s under a more realistic load? A scene that uses more than 24gb vram would also be useful. Thanks
They don’t share vram
imagine having 2k plus watts pc
I'm thinking about getting a Puget systems PC with 4 4090s
How do you sli 4090s when they don't have sli?
I only have one question. How do you plug the cables? Which 4090 is connected to the monitor? Or do you simply plug it into motherboard so monitor works with integrated gpu and control the 4090s with software?
You still plug the cable into the primary GPU.
The rest of the GPUs are utilized through rendering software.
Thanks for the answer! @@Avadirect
Very impressive although I wish the price was more prominent. I know it’s custom But it would save me a few minutes of clicking
Thank you for the feedback! (: We'll start including the price in future videos for the specific configuration featured when possible.
if you're curious, they're running AI workloads
is it still good to have two GPUs in 2024?? planning to get 4070Ti Super to pair with my 3060Ti
The general answer is, it depends on what app(s) you are using.
Gaming - It's not worth it for most gaming. There are only 13 games that natively support NVIDIA SLI. Games that don't support SLI can run, but they won't utilize the processing.
The performance gain is likely not worth the cost difference compared to a single high end card. These combos can have some issues with crashing on some games just by having the two cards installed.
Rendering - A lot of apps support two GPUs. Certain apps like Cinema4D allow a combo of two GPUs to both be utilized fully; the cards don't have to match model either.
The overall price and power cost is the main thing to consider. If you know you need more processing in an app that utilizes two, then it's worth it. You will need to make sure the PSU is able to handle the extended power load. GPUs usually take the most power anyway.
Maybe dumb question, but I don't know much about building a pc. But for rendering if I have an RTX 3060 and get an RTX 4090, can those run together and would there be any benefit to that?
No it would utilize the lowest compute which would be the 3060
@@stylplus1649 thanks for the reply, yeah I had figured it would be best to just use the 4090 and either keep the 3060 as backup or sell it. However now that the new 4080 super came out Im thinking about how that would compare to the standard 4090
@@gabrielWachong if you’re doing by heavy workloads like similar to AI compute then you want something with atleast 24gb VRAM. The 4090 would be the best choice so best to double up on them and buikd a cluster if you have the funds.
@@stylplus1649 yeah I'm mostly using it for 3D and video rendering. Hmm so the 4090 is still better than the 4080 super in that regard then.
I'm not able to stack two of them atm, but I will go with one 4090 for the moment. Maybe add a second through the year.
@@gabrielWachong oh yeah then definitely look to snipe another one this year if you can price one out
Is it too expensive to get the 12 whatchamacallit specialized adapter?
I disagree based on my build with 4 rtx 3090 performance difference is huge when I use 2 rtx 3090 but with the addition of 3rd and 4th gpu the returns are very minimals very very minimals not a lot of difference based on investment made.
dont think i've ever built systems for customers, then had cables handing right in view and then claimed to be better than anyone else lol
What does 4 way rtx 4090 mean? It's 4 GPUs in one PC?
Yes. 4 GPUs in a single system. (:
Is it possible to use 2 different gpus like this? I mean RTX 3060 + RTX 4070 ? For rendering stuff
I'm told by Asus that this can be done with their MB and cards. Though looking at his test results, I don't think they are as great as he makes them, at least for a 2 card rig. Renderfarms still have a place.
@@lanceevans1689 thanks for the reply buddy. I just wanted to know that because I'm going to buy a 3060 to my currently building pc, so i can update it with another 4070 super or ti super if possible. I'm doing 3d rendering stuff and unreal engine works. What would you recommend? Should I save money and directly buy a 4070 ti super instead?
@@nashonightmare Since replying I saw a better dual rig video by BadSeed Tech rendering with DaVici, and getting good gains. Granted, not 3d. A commentor stated mixed cards will run at the speed of the slower card, but I'm not 100% that is true. Plus, my new rig is Ubuntu, so may be diff than Win. Look for my article on the build in 3D World mag, in a month or two. I used a 4060Ti, and will put a 4060 in as a second card when time permits (and when I find another psu to pci cable! lol)
@@lanceevans1689 Thanks again. I'll see
I was wondering if I could have ubuntu on such workstation/
Why not? It may do even better than Windows.
the trouble to go through to buy 4090ies and customize for watercooling leads to only one conclusion: to buy the professional RTX 6000 or even RTX A8000. no need to pimp a ford escort for the money that would buy you the mustang itself.
Hi, do you know of any alternative to this motherboard for an Intel I9 14900K chip? I'm currently planning an Unreal Engine computer with two RTX 4090 cards but can't find a suitable motherboard.
Thank you
Our sales team can help you configure a suitable PC if you're having trouble finding compatible components.
However, take a look at the ASUS ROG Strix z790 gaming wifi. It should work as long as true 3-slot 4090s are used.
@@Avadirect Great, thanks a lot
I would turn on my password recovery software to witness the performance
Can I order from Nigeria? I mean, can you ship to Nigeria?
Most International shipping must be arranged by the buyer and you'll need to contact our sales team directly to place the order. (:
But it is possible!
Here im waiting to see performance... Like in Gaming performance... Letdown
You won't see an increase in game performance with multiple GPUs. (: Most modern games will NOT utilize multiple graphics cards.
If you're trying to get better game performance by buying a second GPU, you're going to have a bad time.
I would be able to render B-rated graphics (AAA for MC) on Minecraft at medium settings 😮 at 60FPS
Only one GPU would be used
@@christophegroulx7816 of course. But we are in pretend land now
im trying to install a seccond gpu which is a 3070 on my PC. i already have on 3080ti installed. I have enough power but after installation, there is a lag when I move my mouse and frequent crashes. I tried removing all drivers and doing a fresh install with DDU. my motherboard is asus rog strix x570 E.... Please let me know what I'm doing wrong. could it be something with pcie lane support?
Have you tried installed the Studio drivers, as opposed to the Game Ready? If both cards were identical, you could get away with the Game Ready drivers. Since you are installing two different GPUs, try the Studio drivers as those are designed for end-users which use their PCs for any creative work; it positions and utilizes the GPUs differently.
Me gustaria que hubiera un concurso de super pc,s ganer que resuelvan problemas que van desde un dia , hasta millones de años ,impresionante !!
i would like 4x 4090 for a render machine.
me too
I see Thermaltake W200, I click.
why use windows for workstations instead of Linux ?
literally any version of linux will recognise that cpu correctly, just saying...
It’s for people that render insane amount of pixels
GTA V with 200 mods
running at 240hz
8k
So you are not targeting the AI market.
@AVADirect Custom Computers - Why split all 4 GPUs?
In order to sandwich four cards, you need a terminal block that allows coolant to flow through each card. Two-way terminal blocks are somewhat (barely) common. However quad-terminal blocks don’t exist for RTX 40 series blocks, so we had to space them in order to run tubing to each card.
Plus, splitting up the cards allows us to run two separate loops a bit easier, ensuring everything installed in the system is cooled as effectively as possible.
@@Avadirect - Thank you so much!
@@lhbbq No problem :D
@@Avadirect - Question - Is there a MATX (Intel/AMD), is there a motherboard that will support a dual 4090 at 4.0 x 16, without reducing the load at X8 or etc?
@@lhbbq Most mATx boards are limited to desktop-socket processors like Intel Core series or AMD Ryzen. Those processors don’t have the kind of PCIe bandwidth necessary to provide 16x/16x PCIe slots without resorting to 8x/8x, or 16x/8x. This is why we always recommend Threadripper for anything that requires unadulterated 16x PCIe bandwidth. If any one manufacturer was brave enough to release a WRX80 mATX board, you better believe we would be building solutions with it!
I just want to play Minecraft with Seus ptgi hrr 3.0 with maximum fps.
Mifcom - The big boss, 7x4090s
Run Microsoft flight Simulator in Virtual Reality
Watching via integrated graphics at 15 fps
Can't actually see it because of the stupid blinking lights
I'd use it to play minecraft. Send me one.
not convincing if you putting out videos that are 1080 and look 720p tss get an other camera man to do your commercial videos
Thank you for the feedback! (:
Better to get the same gpu than a 4090
If u had 4 4090s, what would u do with em? Dude wdym what would you do with them 😂😂... I cant find anything that would max out 2 that I can find. I'D probably give away 2 of them
why would you do this 😭
LOL, This guy is just selling numbers. LOL
Your website needs to be fixed! It's down.
We were switching some sever stuff over! (: It should be fixed and a little faster.
four 4090, what are u gonna use them for as a consumer anyway? You can only use one of them, and the other 3 will be useless. Having more then one Graphics Card does not equal more Performance. You actually need Programms that can utilize all 4 Graphics Cards, and even if you have that, its not like double or triple or even four times the power. If you tell them all to do the same thing, they block each other.
Huhn? Machine learning and code acceleration, 3D rendering (Blender)... Where have you been? Are you stuck on the entire SLI is dead thing? I have two 3090's using NVLink that scale to 198% of 200% using Blender (link not required). On benchmarks such as time spy, I'm getting 4090 numbers! Let's not talk about CUDA (Debian Bookworm makes an awesome platform for AI if done the Debian way) and computation acceleration.
Are we a gamer only? The remark is polarized and ad hominem.
Personal render farm even comes to mind. Renting out the service even comes to mind. What about an arcade scenario powered by say a Threadripper Pro with GPU pass-through using a Type 1 Hypervisor with multiple gaming VMs? Wow!
I just don't have the funds. I've the imagination! Give it a try for real. Many of my ideas are limited by scale. Drop that hardware in my lap; yup, I can create a need for the equipment and generate capital. Just saying.
We explain in the video that a configuration like this would most likely be seen in a business setting. (: Plenty of applications benefit from multiple GPUs nowadays.
This is not a gaming PC.
@@squirrel6687not only blender but keyshot as well can easily utilize and combine Vram without needing an Nvlink bridge, tbh for me that's already a blessing and a half
@@squirrel6687 okay, i admit i dont have the understanding of the matter to make a call on that.
Happy now?
Machine learning to train large language models.
Maybe run a AI or some blender renderings…
ddr4?thats all i needed to know... byee
can't even get one 4090
Half of this video was sales. If you want to make a commercial make a commercial and not an information video. You realize 99 percent of the people watching this video are hobbyists who would never pay a third party to build them a pc?
Lots of professionals buy prebuilts since the support it comes with is more than worth the extra cost over a DIY system
Render Farm.
Most useless video on RUclips
Why not do a gpu like rx 6600
Lol……….and your point is………….. I still call myself a custom builder, yes………..but my builds make sense. So……….what’s your market for these rigs? Huge I imagine………..lmfao! You’ve just insulted every customer PC builder out there. That should increase your subscribers. 🤔👁️🫤
Hiya!
Multi-GPU PCs excel in certain rendering and AI use cases. (: We wouldn't recommend them to every customer, but those using specific software will absolutely benefit from a workstation configuration like this.