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You shouldn't drill those cavity gas meter boxes, in the case of a leak the cavity can fill with gas and the house can explode. There's a putty you can get to seal round the cable
Drilling to to a gas box lads? only supposed to take bonding thought external lip knockout in case of a gas leaks . Generally love you content Artisans keep up the good work! Cory you are a legend!
@@bartom309 I don't know the exact regs, and not qualified. But I'm sure the gas box should be sealed against leaking gas into the cavity worst case. Also here we could be providing a route for escaped gas to enter the electricity meter cabinet. Perhaps they sealed the hole, but it wasn't shown?
It just amazes me on the location of the CU's there. I am so glad that in the US they don't allow places like that and have minimum clearance rules around the panels and have to be accessible. Keep up the good work guys!
@@ericgee6585 Good point, I haven't even thought about that. I know here we don't have that requirement as many are mounted up higher, however not near as bad as those in the UK. Your working on a ladder there or crawling on your belly it seems. 👍😁
Watching all your videos from Germany told me one thing about UK electric installations: Expect consumer units to be in every possible random place in a house, when you first visit a job site 😂 Good content as always, can’t wait to see more!!!!! If this is the last video for this year: Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
Good job lads , but should really be protecting the worktops b4 putting fuses tools etc.. bundy always has protective Matts. Something you should look into . Apart from that keep up the good work
Being slow or overpriced the very worst you can do is damage people's fancy kitchens or drop something on the hob. Admit it if you have to but otherwise scarper !
I love to see how much Ruben Developed last months, working with Artisan Electrics must be great. Wish you a Merry Christmass & Happy Newyear from Holland.
Lovely job but an observation, you would of been better off bonding the gas within 600mm of entry to the property. You're not supposed to drill into the side of a recessed gas meter box and would of been better off going in via the back and sealing it there as it's the shortest route to the inner wall skin and the least likely to allow the escape of gas into the cavity (gas regulations requirements > electrical). Seen this often and several sparks have had to cough up a couple ££££ per house they've done it to on new builds to replace the boxes when the inspectors have been around.
I wouldn't have bothered bonding it, that house is too modern for the incoming pipe to be anything other than plastic, in that get sleeve there will be a yellow plastic pipe, I would be surprised if the water wasn't plastic as well.
@@acelectricalsecurity isn’t it bonded for the purpose of potential? Not as a source of earth? The inside pipework going into the boiler will be copper throughout. But the incoming source is likely plastic yes. Please correct me if I’m wrong, not a spark, just peasant programmer and sec researcher! 😂
@@TornTech1 of it's plastic incoming services then there's no need to bond, as it's not extraneous, so it can't be at a different potential to the main earth
@@TornTech1 Anthony is correct is assuming the white plastic sleeve is to protect the polypropylene from sunlight but as gas regulators and everything past the ECV must be metallic pipework and fittings in an installation it will be grounded and if not bonded has a possibility of being at a different potential. As such the gas regs and engineers will prefer to see it bonded to reduce the chance of accidental ignition. BS7671 will happily let a polypropylene incomer go un-bonded but does actually take a back seat to the gas regs when dealing with gas installations.
Hey, great vid guys....... A question...... @5:50 you talked about getting more length on the cables by cutting the "capping" back........ Was it capping though? It looked like oval conduit..... If it was, I was really looking forward to seeing how you did that without knicking the cables inside. Any tips on how to do that please?
Get your multi tool out and hope for the best. I would snip the oval up the centre facing me and yank the cable to release more. Oval buried in wall so you don't need to cut it out.
Question for rueben is he enjoying college and learning lots cause I did not agree with college system but getting on the tools was the best choice I took keep doing well and good work lads
College has been alright, mainly health and safety recently along with some basic science but we've just finished health and safety the other week so it should be more focused on the science aspect of it and practical work which should be nice. It's obviously very important stuff to learn and the college I'm at I doing a good job of teaching it, however, I do think that being on the tools and being able to apply what I'm learning is the best way.
@@reubenrankine8070 Great surname there. My mother's maiden name is Rankine 👍. I hope team Artisan take you to higher levels. Smashing content as always 😜.
Being picky those mains tails had to be very flexi for that route around and fitting further breakers over them (blanks sit like wonky teeth) . A left Side main switch ? What it is with cutting off so much outer sheath from tails into main switch ?
Sorry but you can’t drill the meter boxes you have two options either follow the gas pipe through the rear nock out with the spigot and non setting flue compound eg the grey stuff, or you can drill a hole in the front on the bottom eg like how the incoming gas supply is but other side these are the only option he now needs a new meter box as it’s against regs
I truly TRULY dont understand why UK electrics fit consumer units in the most random places. In norway it is standard that consumer units are close to the entrance door and at chest hight. And they are big 70 long 60cm wide is normal
True, in my country there are specific laws about the placement of consumer units. They must be at a reasonable height and in a place where they are accessible (you don't want to reach under a kitchen cabinet full of stuff in the dark to restore power or worse to shut down the power in case of an emergency!). Usually they are near the main entrance door (for apartments) or in an utility room for bigger houses. Having them near the door makes sense, since if you turned off the power (for example when not using the house for a long period of time) you don't have to go with a torch to find the consumer unit to turn on the power. They are also usually in a box into the wall, so they are flush to the wall, like a light switch (in fact a lot of people to hide them they put a picture in front of them). Maintaining the wires short to the meter is not that big concern, since by law the meter is not installed inside the house and should be on the perimeter of the property (accessible from the public street) so the cable run is long anyway, and a couple of extra meters doesn't change that much...
@@jakebowen8059 easier to run a few meters of tails or about twenty different circuits? Here in Finland older homes has the meter in the same CU, indoors and somewhere near the entrance
Who makes the pants you guys wear? Also thanks for all your vids, it helped me decided this is what I want to do and I found a great job at a good company. I owe you guys one.
Good electrical advice plus Have a Lunch Break, amazing the physical and mental boost after a food break. Amazing, what seemed to be problems suddenly have answers after a break, who knows it may even be better for long term health.
In the Netherlands we have since 1920! a advisery building law to build a metercupboard in new homes.Esspecialy for the meters of gas and electricity and lately for warm water for heating your home. And still the UK is wondering were with the meters in the house,never on the same place.Even akward places like this!Isnt it time to regulate this by the government??
It's only in older house where they pop up in odd places, but many houses in the UK are Victorian. New builds are genuinely in in more sensible places.
The UK Government and the Local Governments cannot even manage to regulate the building industry to build safe, well (competently) built and well insulated houses (without them doing an impression of ‘Towering Inferno’.
Is it me Or are isolators that are next to the consumer unite a little pointless Surely if it’s that close to the consumer unite it’s self if the isolator Or is there some code I’m forgetting about
It does give you double pole isolation, and you are able to fuse the fan at 3amp as most ask for, as well as a double pole isolator. I think it's better to use an isolator rather than a breaker personally.
Manufacturers instructions and good practice guides dictate they should be used. How you would be shocked having isolated at board I don't know. Bosch Cooker extractors come with plugs these days with a 3amp fuse so they don't see the need for double pole isolation.
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You shouldn't drill those cavity gas meter boxes, in the case of a leak the cavity can fill with gas and the house can explode. There's a putty you can get to seal round the cable
Intumescent putty 👍
Drilling to to a gas box lads? only supposed to take bonding thought external lip knockout in case of a gas leaks . Generally love you content Artisans keep up the good work! Cory you are a legend!
Exactly what I was thinking!
Good to know that. So can't drill through bricks into it but cutting a hole externally is fine
@@bartom309 I don't know the exact regs, and not qualified. But I'm sure the gas box should be sealed against leaking gas into the cavity worst case. Also here we could be providing a route for escaped gas to enter the electricity meter cabinet. Perhaps they sealed the hole, but it wasn't shown?
Correct or via a purpose made hole with a spigot eg like the gas pipe goes through and is sealed with non setting sealant
It just amazes me on the location of the CU's there. I am so glad that in the US they don't allow places like that and have minimum clearance rules around the panels and have to be accessible. Keep up the good work guys!
In France there must be wheelchair access to the board as well.
@@ericgee6585 Good point, I haven't even thought about that. I know here we don't have that requirement as many are mounted up higher, however not near as bad as those in the UK. Your working on a ladder there or crawling on your belly it seems. 👍😁
Watching all your videos from Germany told me one thing about UK electric installations: Expect consumer units to be in every possible random place in a house, when you first visit a job site 😂
Good content as always, can’t wait to see more!!!!!
If this is the last video for this year:
Merry Christmas and a happy new year!
nice video, however your not allowed to drill holes in gas meter cupboard!
Good job lads , but should really be protecting the worktops b4 putting fuses tools etc..
bundy always has protective Matts.
Something you should look into .
Apart from that keep up the good work
Nick uncle Ted also used to put dust mats and sheets down. He was meticulously clean with his jobs. Why can't everybody be like this.
Being slow or overpriced the very worst you can do is damage people's fancy kitchens or drop something on the hob. Admit it if you have to but otherwise scarper !
I love to see how much Ruben Developed last months, working with Artisan Electrics must be great. Wish you a Merry Christmass & Happy Newyear from Holland.
Good video Lee, nice neat workmanship by all too.
Gear on the kitchen worktops 🤠
Lovely job but an observation, you would of been better off bonding the gas within 600mm of entry to the property. You're not supposed to drill into the side of a recessed gas meter box and would of been better off going in via the back and sealing it there as it's the shortest route to the inner wall skin and the least likely to allow the escape of gas into the cavity (gas regulations requirements > electrical). Seen this often and several sparks have had to cough up a couple ££££ per house they've done it to on new builds to replace the boxes when the inspectors have been around.
I wouldn't have bothered bonding it, that house is too modern for the incoming pipe to be anything other than plastic, in that get sleeve there will be a yellow plastic pipe, I would be surprised if the water wasn't plastic as well.
@@acelectricalsecurity isn’t it bonded for the purpose of potential? Not as a source of earth?
The inside pipework going into the boiler will be copper throughout. But the incoming source is likely plastic yes.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, not a spark, just peasant programmer and sec researcher! 😂
@@TornTech1 of it's plastic incoming services then there's no need to bond, as it's not extraneous, so it can't be at a different potential to the main earth
@@acelectricalsecurity ah of course! It would only be at a different potential if it WAS grounded! So it’s just floating!
Thanks for clearing that up!
@@TornTech1 Anthony is correct is assuming the white plastic sleeve is to protect the polypropylene from sunlight but as gas regulators and everything past the ECV must be metallic pipework and fittings in an installation it will be grounded and if not bonded has a possibility of being at a different potential. As such the gas regs and engineers will prefer to see it bonded to reduce the chance of accidental ignition. BS7671 will happily let a polypropylene incomer go un-bonded but does actually take a back seat to the gas regs when dealing with gas installations.
Anyone else still waiting for Ruben to show that dodgy Downlight? Been 5 hours now and his still not back….
He went out to get a spotlight and never came back... 🙁
Nice work in such tight conditions....ah the life of a sparky
I think your videos are super great! Have a very good night.
Thanks a lot
@@artisanelectrics you’re welcome.
Hey, great vid guys....... A question...... @5:50 you talked about getting more length on the cables by cutting the "capping" back........ Was it capping though? It looked like oval conduit..... If it was, I was really looking forward to seeing how you did that without knicking the cables inside. Any tips on how to do that please?
Snap
With great difficulty lol
Get your multi tool out and hope for the best. I would snip the oval up the centre facing me and yank the cable to release more. Oval buried in wall so you don't need to cut it out.
I'm a photgrapher and for the last 2 days I have been meaning to charge my batteries for my lights. Thank you I forgot but you reminded me 😂😂😂
At least it was handy for the kettle ☕️ 😆 Keep em coming Artisans 🙌🏻
No double pole isolation for the Hypervolt? Those RCBO's are only single pole.
Every day i like more and more your videos and your work
Grand job Merry Christmas to you all.
How have you fed the hypervolt? Hagar rcbos are not double pole
Question for rueben is he enjoying college and learning lots cause I did not agree with college system but getting on the tools was the best choice I took keep doing well and good work lads
College has been alright, mainly health and safety recently along with some basic science but we've just finished health and safety the other week so it should be more focused on the science aspect of it and practical work which should be nice. It's obviously very important stuff to learn and the college I'm at I doing a good job of teaching it, however, I do think that being on the tools and being able to apply what I'm learning is the best way.
@@reubenrankine8070 Great surname there. My mother's maiden name is Rankine 👍. I hope team Artisan take you to higher levels. Smashing content as always 😜.
Another Artisan job. Nicely done
Being picky those mains tails had to be very flexi for that route around and fitting further breakers over them (blanks sit like wonky teeth) . A left Side main switch ? What it is with cutting off so much outer sheath from tails into main switch ?
Great team work!!!!!!!! Thumbs up! Cheers!
Sorry but you can’t drill the meter boxes you have two options either follow the gas pipe through the rear nock out with the spigot and non setting flue compound eg the grey stuff, or you can drill a hole in the front on the bottom eg like how the incoming gas supply is but other side these are the only option he now needs a new meter box as it’s against regs
Is there really any need for an isolator when the CU's right next to it?
How else would they isolate the CU without pulling the DNO's fuse
@@adrianbolger7696 I meant the kitchen appliance isolator switches
@@mikeselectricstuff Not really i guess but those are the rules it seems :)
The RCBO’s are single pole, most appliances need double pole isolation 😊👍🏼
@@corynoahmac When RCBO's are advertised as 1+N pole... does that count as two poles for the regs?
I truly TRULY dont understand why UK electrics fit consumer units in the most random places.
In norway it is standard that consumer units are close to the entrance door and at chest hight. And they are big 70 long 60cm wide is normal
it depends where the meter is, sometimes its easier to put the unit close to the meter so you have an easier run for the incoming tails
Good job though
True, in my country there are specific laws about the placement of consumer units. They must be at a reasonable height and in a place where they are accessible (you don't want to reach under a kitchen cabinet full of stuff in the dark to restore power or worse to shut down the power in case of an emergency!). Usually they are near the main entrance door (for apartments) or in an utility room for bigger houses. Having them near the door makes sense, since if you turned off the power (for example when not using the house for a long period of time) you don't have to go with a torch to find the consumer unit to turn on the power. They are also usually in a box into the wall, so they are flush to the wall, like a light switch (in fact a lot of people to hide them they put a picture in front of them).
Maintaining the wires short to the meter is not that big concern, since by law the meter is not installed inside the house and should be on the perimeter of the property (accessible from the public street) so the cable run is long anyway, and a couple of extra meters doesn't change that much...
@@jakebowen8059 easier to run a few meters of tails or about twenty different circuits? Here in Finland older homes has the meter in the same CU, indoors and somewhere near the entrance
Same here in Finland
Really enjoy your videos ! Even though I am not an electrician
@Ruben what about the shady downlight by the stairs?
Nice to see an EV install is a trigger for some to get a serious safety upgrade!
Brilliant job mate
Who makes the pants you guys wear?
Also thanks for all your vids, it helped me decided this is what I want to do and I found a great job at a good company. I owe you guys one.
Hi mate is that light because I was going to get one the other day what make is it
Single pole rcbos , can't understand why you would fit them, fit Wylex compacts , now in that property a neutral to earth fault would not be cleared
Good electrical advice plus Have a Lunch Break, amazing the physical and mental boost after a food break. Amazing, what seemed to be problems suddenly have answers after a break, who knows it may even be better for long term health.
Makes me sluggish all that Greggs at midday. Monster Ultra and large bar of Cadburys wholenut...and just keep going
the room is too narrow, it's difficult for the workers boss
"somebody cut the earth wire to the gas",Lee
Great content guys ⚡️👊
Well Done lads
Which model of uni lite is that p.please? And another good video 👍
Wow wouldn't be surprised if the electrical panel was next to the toilet
Best sparky's in uk.
nice work guys👍
Nice job 😎
Fantastic video
Nice job m8.
The Unilite discount code only removes 5% not 25%.
Great vids/content BUT hate slow motion!
where do you lot find your customers, they seem to sort you boys right out 😂
In the Netherlands we have since 1920! a advisery building law to build a metercupboard in new homes.Esspecialy for the meters of gas and electricity and lately for warm water for heating your home.
And still the UK is wondering were with the meters in the house,never on the same place.Even akward places like this!Isnt it time to regulate this by the government??
It's only in older house where they pop up in odd places, but many houses in the UK are Victorian. New builds are genuinely in in more sensible places.
The UK Government and the Local Governments cannot even manage to regulate the building industry to build safe, well (competently) built and well insulated houses (without them doing an impression of ‘Towering Inferno’.
What a nightmare of a location for a consumer unit
where is coory
How long before Reuben has an arm full of tattoo?
11:55 - Is it me being fussy that isolator switches are in the wrong order, should be from bottom OVEN (not cooker), middle HOB, top EXTRACTOR FAN? 🤪😀
Totally agree. And to add to the OCD, the fact that one of them is a different style with rounded corners. I wonder if Jordan would have replaced it?
just for info; your Unilite code is only giving 5% off, not 25%... Their issue not yours I'm sure.
Even with a 25% code the lights are still cheaper from other sites, as I found out.
ahaha :D I dont understand why do they put fuse boxes in such weird places? what is the point behind this?
Out of sight and out of mind,most probably original position was higher and they moved it to suit kitchen layout
Aesthetics
@@joe2395 no that's been there from when the place was built
Is it me
Or are isolators that are next to the consumer unite a little pointless
Surely if it’s that close to the consumer unite it’s self if the isolator
Or is there some code I’m forgetting about
It does give you double pole isolation, and you are able to fuse the fan at 3amp as most ask for, as well as a double pole isolator.
I think it's better to use an isolator rather than a breaker personally.
Manufacturers instructions and good practice guides dictate they should be used. How you would be shocked having isolated at board I don't know. Bosch Cooker extractors come with plugs these days with a 3amp fuse so they don't see the need for double pole isolation.
What did the job ad say...
A Nick Bundy wanted
Unnecessarily parking on the pavement yet again I see
What a 💩 place to put a board 🙄🙄🙄🙄
If that's crap try swapping a board in a 600mm wide cupboard, at least that cupboard you could easily get your body in