you can totally cheese umbral form: You can enter into objects (including wall) and end your turn inside. You'll take 5 damage per turn but you'll be basically immune to all other damage. On your turn you float out, launch your spells and then just float right back in...
I see your umbral form and raise you a free mount. Play as a Halfling and ride the beast closer towards the targeted creature. This is great is chases as you can run up besides them and cast hold person on them giving them disadvantage on the save.
Not necessarily since someone might try to destroy the object and then damaging you afterwards. A wall of stone for example has 30 hit-points and an AC of 15, a fighter or a paladin could easily bring down something like this and damage you afterwards, especially the paladin who gets radiant damage + force damage via smites and that could make you go down real easy. The DM might even rule, and it would kind of make sense, that exceding damage the object takes goes directly to you afterwards. In either cases while you're still mitigating a lot of damage, it isn't really a "you are immune to all damage besides the 5 you take for being inside an object".
@@rafaelcastor2089 That would be hilarious. Thank you, Now I''m just imagining a halfling "Not lets catch up to that troll" hops on a shadow hound and starts chasing it before the troll goes over a wall and the dog goes straight through it while the halfing falls off.
another combo for hound of ill omen- the hold spells. The hound makes all of the saves at a disadvantage not just the first one and when paralyzed the target gets auto critted from your hound.
I had a half orc Shadocerer ready before this vid and I can’t wait to go down twice without death. Control flame is a great cantrip for shadow btw, most dungeons and buildings are lit by torch sconce or brazier. It’s not as good as darkness but it’s free.
One fun combo is to combine umbral sight with darkness cast via sorc. points and a cloak of the bat. You can cast darkness on yourself, and then immediately gain a flying speed of 40 ft that travels with you. Any attacks against you have disadvantage and any you make have advantage, all because they can't see you. It makes dive-bombing enemies a viable tactic, and it's seriously good battlefield mobility not a lot of other casters get at will like that.
Abjuration wizard with Counterspell and Dispel Magic or Bard with Counterspell and Dispel Magic. Both get a bonus to dispel and Counterspell checks. (Abjuration bonus is higher, but Bards can guarantee success with Glibness, since its a Charisma ability check for them.)
Blindness/Deafness does a great job shutting down enemy casters. Cast it on an enemy spellcaster while your Hound of Ill Omen is next to him, and he'll have a harder time passing the Constitution Save. It's not concentration either, so you can use it while concentrating on another spell, including concentrating on Bane to make your target have even more difficulty succeeding the saving throw against Blindness/Deafness. If you look at all of the spells in D&D 5e, most of them require you to see your target. And if the enemy spell caster can't see .... he can't use any of those spells that require you to see your target.
3:30 note that drow will still have disadvantage if their target is in sunlight. 3:45 strength of the grave is similar to undead fortitude of zombie creatures 15:12 flanking is an optional rule in the DMG. It is not allowed in Adventurers League.
9.48 "Your average monster doesn't have very good saving throws...because they don't get their proficiency bonus added on" I don't understand. My rulebook says: "A saving throw bonus is the sum of a monster’s relevant ability modifier and its proficiency bonus, which is determined by the monster’s challenge rating (as shown in the Proficiency Bonus by Challenge Rating table)." I understood that as meaning, that monsters ALWAYS get their proficiency bonus added on, starting at +2 for the lowest 1/8 CR mobs....
Look at an adult silver dragon, its save entrys are dex, con, wis and cha. (CR16 +5 prof) once you add the ability score mods then the numbers fit right. so why does it not have str or int saves listed? pit fiend has cr 20, +6 prof. run the numbers, they match right. why would a goblin have proficiency in every save? I doubt it would. I thinks it's just wizards and their poor wording. proficency may be nessacary for attacks and skills and some special abilities but for basic creatures the saves don't get proficency from what I can see. this is why they have included the table, for skills and stuff. but only special or tough creatures get a save entry in their description.
You are welcome, still, at least you can effect your targets with spells more easily now. Unless you are the DM in which case your players have been having a hard time of it :)
Have you considered sharing stories from your games on the channel? You clearly play a lot and there's bound to be a few funny, abnormal or epic moments worth sharing.
Hmmm, seems like more of a live stream kinda thing and I don't know anything about that. But if that's something the subscribers want then i'll look into it. I don't play loads but i've got near 20 years worth of exp in role playing and a few more years of video game RPG's on top of that so tricks and exploits are things you just notice as you role play more.
I’m curious what your thoughts of a multiclass Divine Soul Sorcerer and a Cleric of the Grave would be. I have a level 2 half elf now and I’d like to hear how you’d use it. Might help me in Chult. Thanks in advance
Nice in depth analysis as always. watching this got me to wondering... I have recently watched "The Crow" and after which I wonder if you would use this Shadow Sorcerer and Raven Queen Warlock multi-class to make the character? Or more directly, how would you build "The Crow" in D&D 5e?...my thoughts are either Rogue Asasin3/Raven Queen Blade pact warlock, or maybe the Shadow sorcerer/Raven Queen Warlock?
The last Sorc/Lock i did was Quan Chi, I think? Some friends of mine were talking about 'The Crow last week. I'd have to watch that again. I remember it being a good film. Blade locks don't really need Rogue, but the surprise auto crit has it's place. Definitely take Eldritch smite. or combine the two :)
Melee sorcerer!!!!!! Half-Orc (Fighter or Barbarian) 1/Sorcerer all other levels Either take a longsword or greatsword if possible. Dump int and Wis. Bump Str, Dex, Con, and Cha, and if you have to choose one to dump, choose Dex, not nearly as important as the others. As early on as possible, I would take war caster and tough.
@@DrowBard yeah. There is really no wrong way to do this build as long as you have 1 level of martial weapon proficiency when it comes down to the specifics.
The hound only lasts for 5 minutes and can only move towards it's target by the most direct route, there is no reason a small creature could not ride the hound but the only control you would have is where it appears when you summon it and who it chases and attacks . . . . The hound can only use its action to attack its target, it can't dash, dodge, disengage, hide or help so even a small creature could keep up with it if they use their action to dash. also, you would want to be mindful of where and when you summon it since it has the ability to move through another creatures space and takes the most direct route towards its target you don't want it (or you if you're riding it) taking a bunch of opportunity attacks and getting destroyed before it can reach its target.
Anyone here that can actually recommend a few "key spells" for a level 6 shadow sorcerer?I wanna make my character feel like a trained assassin.Similar to Corvo from dishonored.
Can you create a build using shadow sorcerer and hex blade. A melee combatant based off of the raven queen please. I’m playing a Shadow 3 \ warlock 1 and I need some help for building her. Thanks
It sounds like you are quoting from a different version of Unearthed Arcana: Light, Dark, Underdark. Is the 2015 one not the latest? Discrepancies were: 60ft darkvision, darkness at level 1, range limit on the hound, and umbral form is called shadow form.
Hey bard, so im playing awood elf rouge, right now im level 2. Stats are 14 str, 20 dex,18 con, 18 wis, 14 int, 12 cha, pretty decent rolls for stats. I am using next 3 levels for gloom stalker ranget then going back to scout rouge. Any ideas for feats to really up this charaters game? He is a hit and run ambush tatic character. Thinking maybe magic initiate for a familar, proboly sharpshooter any other sugestions?
hound of ill omen is great at lower levels but above 7 forget it I am lvl 12 and the hound could not hit a broad side of a barn with a target painted on it. Str of the grave is useless, think about it 5+damage dealt to you so if you get hit for 30 damage the dc is now 35 HOW the fuck are you going to make that save? I doubt you will.
The main use of the hound of ill omen is that it's a superior heightened spell metamagic as it forces disadvantage on multiple saves. The hound's attack is a nice bonus, but you're using it wrong if you don't utilise that massive buff to your save or suck spells.
you can totally cheese umbral form: You can enter into objects (including wall) and end your turn inside. You'll take 5 damage per turn but you'll be basically immune to all other damage. On your turn you float out, launch your spells and then just float right back in...
I see your umbral form and raise you a free mount. Play as a Halfling and ride the beast closer towards the targeted creature. This is great is chases as you can run up besides them and cast hold person on them giving them disadvantage on the save.
Not necessarily since someone might try to destroy the object and then damaging you afterwards. A wall of stone for example has 30 hit-points and an AC of 15, a fighter or a paladin could easily bring down something like this and damage you afterwards, especially the paladin who gets radiant damage + force damage via smites and that could make you go down real easy. The DM might even rule, and it would kind of make sense, that exceding damage the object takes goes directly to you afterwards. In either cases while you're still mitigating a lot of damage, it isn't really a "you are immune to all damage besides the 5 you take for being inside an object".
@@rafaelcastor2089 That would be hilarious. Thank you, Now I''m just imagining a halfling "Not lets catch up to that troll" hops on a shadow hound and starts chasing it before the troll goes over a wall and the dog goes straight through it while the halfing falls off.
A Shadow sorc Undying lock Orc sounds like a dope mid-boss fight at low-mid levels
another combo for hound of ill omen- the hold spells. The hound makes all of the saves at a disadvantage not just the first one and when paralyzed the target gets auto critted from your hound.
Shadow Walk+Spider Climb would be pretty fun. You can teleport to the wall or the ceiling and just... stand there.
Standing around is what I do best :)
That's pretty cool
I had a half orc Shadocerer ready before this vid and I can’t wait to go down twice without death. Control flame is a great cantrip for shadow btw, most dungeons and buildings are lit by torch sconce or brazier. It’s not as good as darkness but it’s free.
I subbed with the Unconventional Warlock vid. A-grade content then and now, keep it up!
One fun combo is to combine umbral sight with darkness cast via sorc. points and a cloak of the bat.
You can cast darkness on yourself, and then immediately gain a flying speed of 40 ft that travels with you. Any attacks against you have disadvantage and any you make have advantage, all because they can't see you. It makes dive-bombing enemies a viable tactic, and it's seriously good battlefield mobility not a lot of other casters get at will like that.
Could you do an anti-caster build? Maybe one that uses spells to shut down a caster and another non-casting build designed to kill mages?
I second this request.
Way of the shadow monk w mage slayer and sentinel.
Abjuration wizard with Counterspell and Dispel Magic or Bard with Counterspell and Dispel Magic.
Both get a bonus to dispel and Counterspell checks. (Abjuration bonus is higher, but Bards can guarantee success with Glibness, since its a Charisma ability check for them.)
@@normal6483 a wizard can always wish for glibness.
Blindness/Deafness does a great job shutting down enemy casters. Cast it on an enemy spellcaster while your Hound of Ill Omen is next to him, and he'll have a harder time passing the Constitution Save. It's not concentration either, so you can use it while concentrating on another spell, including concentrating on Bane to make your target have even more difficulty succeeding the saving throw against Blindness/Deafness.
If you look at all of the spells in D&D 5e, most of them require you to see your target. And if the enemy spell caster can't see .... he can't use any of those spells that require you to see your target.
3:30 note that drow will still have disadvantage if their target is in sunlight.
3:45 strength of the grave is similar to undead fortitude of zombie creatures
15:12 flanking is an optional rule in the DMG. It is not allowed in Adventurers League.
Tbg adventurous league is a bit too by the book in general.
Anything with Ill omen is good....look at it...Hound + Disintegrate... scary....
English Ivan - Hound becomes MR. MORDRAKE, his sentient shadow
orck+celasale warlock(undiying)+ this. you have 3 ways to save from death per long reast.
Bud there are easier ways to live longer in combat then that.
@@milltary64vs5 I know
Now you are just being a tease, where's the Unconventional Sorcerer video already? ;-)
Good things come to those who wait :)
For those who don't know, Drow Bard made the video here => ruclips.net/video/dCO9RdaC74E/видео.html
9.48 "Your average monster doesn't have very good saving throws...because they don't get their proficiency bonus added on"
I don't understand. My rulebook says: "A saving throw bonus is the sum of a monster’s relevant ability modifier and its proficiency bonus, which is determined by the monster’s challenge rating (as shown in the Proficiency Bonus by Challenge Rating table)."
I understood that as meaning, that monsters ALWAYS get their proficiency bonus added on, starting at +2 for the lowest 1/8 CR mobs....
Look at an adult silver dragon, its save entrys are dex, con, wis and cha. (CR16 +5 prof) once you add the ability score mods then the numbers fit right. so why does it not have str or int saves listed? pit fiend has cr 20, +6 prof. run the numbers, they match right. why would a goblin have proficiency in every save? I doubt it would. I thinks it's just wizards and their poor wording. proficency may be nessacary for attacks and skills and some special abilities but for basic creatures the saves don't get proficency from what I can see. this is why they have included the table, for skills and stuff. but only special or tough creatures get a save entry in their description.
Hmm, OK.... thanks for the prompt answer anyway.
You are welcome, still, at least you can effect your targets with spells more easily now. Unless you are the DM in which case your players have been having a hard time of it :)
Ya, I am a GM. A GM who might have a bunch of splaining to do. And probably sit through quite an amount of char retooling....
Have you considered sharing stories from your games on the channel? You clearly play a lot and there's bound to be a few funny, abnormal or epic moments worth sharing.
Hmmm, seems like more of a live stream kinda thing and I don't know anything about that. But if that's something the subscribers want then i'll look into it. I don't play loads but i've got near 20 years worth of exp in role playing and a few more years of video game RPG's on top of that so tricks and exploits are things you just notice as you role play more.
I love DnD stories, and I love your style, sounds like a perfect match if you're up for the challenge.
Thanks, that's kind. I'll look into it. 2K subs are coming up so maybe.
Drow Bard please look into to it
This seems like it would be real cool
Oddly enough I always imagine the Shadow Sorcerer being a cunning halfling
I always envisioned a gnome as a shadow sorc. Never knew why :)
That's actually quite cool too, Can't wait to give the idea a try when the chance arises
I'll play a goblin shadow sorcerer this week, it seems like a really cool combination.
I’m curious what your thoughts of a multiclass Divine Soul Sorcerer and a Cleric of the Grave would be. I have a level 2 half elf now and I’d like to hear how you’d use it. Might help me in Chult. Thanks in advance
Nice in depth analysis as always. watching this got me to wondering...
I have recently watched "The Crow" and after which I wonder if you would use this Shadow Sorcerer and Raven Queen Warlock multi-class to make the character?
Or more directly, how would you build "The Crow" in D&D 5e?...my thoughts are either Rogue Asasin3/Raven Queen Blade pact warlock, or maybe the Shadow sorcerer/Raven Queen Warlock?
The last Sorc/Lock i did was Quan Chi, I think?
Some friends of mine were talking about 'The Crow last week. I'd have to watch that again. I remember it being a good film.
Blade locks don't really need Rogue, but the surprise auto crit has it's place. Definitely take Eldritch smite. or combine the two :)
Go Hexblade for Cha as attack/damage ;D
Melee sorcerer!!!!!!
Half-Orc
(Fighter or Barbarian) 1/Sorcerer all other levels
Either take a longsword or greatsword if possible. Dump int and Wis. Bump Str, Dex, Con, and Cha, and if you have to choose one to dump, choose Dex, not nearly as important as the others.
As early on as possible, I would take war caster and tough.
Half orcs tend to do well with G. Axe, those crits gain an extra D12 which is huge.
@@DrowBard that's the trade off between greatsword and greataxe. I honestly prefer greatsword more, but it's mostly down to crit chance vs damage die.
G.sword is technically better. It's definitely more consistent, especially if you take GWF style. It's keeping your damage per round respectable.
@@DrowBard yeah. There is really no wrong way to do this build as long as you have 1 level of martial weapon proficiency when it comes down to the specifics.
Considering you still get 9th level slots, why wouldn't you take a second level of fighter? Action Surge is always nice.
Could you please do a Spawn Build?
How about something dealing with a cleric and soc combo. Seems like it could be fun
As a halfling or other small creature, could you mount the hound of I'll omen?
Don't see much reason why you wouldn't be able to. However that'll be up to your DM's discretion.
The hound only lasts for 5 minutes and can only move towards it's target by the most direct route, there is no reason a small creature could not ride the hound but the only control you would have is where it appears when you summon it and who it chases and attacks . . . . The hound can only use its action to attack its target, it can't dash, dodge, disengage, hide or help so even a small creature could keep up with it if they use their action to dash.
also, you would want to be mindful of where and when you summon it since it has the ability to move through another creatures space and takes the most direct route towards its target you don't want it (or you if you're riding it) taking a bunch of opportunity attacks and getting destroyed before it can reach its target.
Anyone here that can actually recommend a few "key spells" for a level 6 shadow sorcerer?I wanna make my character feel like a trained assassin.Similar to Corvo from dishonored.
What’s your opinion on Blood Hunters and other kinds of home brew?
I want more cheese!!!! ;)
Can you create a build using shadow sorcerer and hex blade. A melee combatant based off of the raven queen please. I’m playing a Shadow 3 \ warlock 1 and I need some help for building her.
Thanks
Quord Gaming quicken and twin booming blade
Sadira from Killer Instinct please
What’s the song that is used in this video?
It sounds like you are quoting from a different version of Unearthed Arcana: Light, Dark, Underdark. Is the 2015 one not the latest? Discrepancies were: 60ft darkvision, darkness at level 1, range limit on the hound, and umbral form is called shadow form.
bennyty I think he is using the official release from Xanathar's Guide to everything.
Oh thanks! I didn't even know it was in Xanathar's.
What ruleset is this guide for?
Hey bard, so im playing awood elf rouge, right now im level 2. Stats are 14 str, 20 dex,18 con, 18 wis, 14 int, 12 cha, pretty decent rolls for stats. I am using next 3 levels for gloom stalker ranget then going back to scout rouge. Any ideas for feats to really up this charaters game? He is a hit and run ambush tatic character. Thinking maybe magic initiate for a familar, proboly sharpshooter any other sugestions?
My recommendation is medium armor master, for stealth with medium armor, and alert, that away you can make sure to get a high initiative.
@@josephsmith8087 because +9 initiative is never enough lol
hound of ill omen is great at lower levels but above 7 forget it I am lvl 12 and the hound could not hit a broad side of a barn with a target painted on it. Str of the grave is useless, think about it 5+damage dealt to you so if you get hit for 30 damage the dc is now 35 HOW the fuck are you going to make that save? I doubt you will.
The main use of the hound of ill omen is that it's a superior heightened spell metamagic as it forces disadvantage on multiple saves. The hound's attack is a nice bonus, but you're using it wrong if you don't utilise that massive buff to your save or suck spells.
What book is the shadow sorcerer from?
Darkcider79 Xanathar's Guide to everything.
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