Shadow Magic Sorcerer Guide for Dungeons and Dragons 5e

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  • Опубликовано: 14 авг 2019
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  • @DungeonDudes
    @DungeonDudes  4 года назад +50

    Here are our sample characters:
    ddb.ac/characters/4017550/uMeqTr
    ddb.ac/characters/14738638/TYb6X3

    • @dragonmaster613
      @dragonmaster613 4 года назад +2

      At LV18, you have 18 sorcery points.
      -6 leaves 12. So unless you blow it twice prior, this is not that bad.
      And 6 points is a LV4 spell slot. You could burn a LV4 spell slot to get this to activate.
      This is better than using Stoneskin (LV4) and Gaseous Form(LV3) combined.
      That is the equivalent to using 11 sorcery points or both a LV4 and LV3 spell slots and two actions, instead of 6 points/one LV4 slot and one bonus action.

    • @alexlore4716
      @alexlore4716 4 года назад +1

      I know this might be asking alot but... the Sea sorcerer really needs a video I call it Tide Sorcerer by the way... It gets overlooked cause of the name.... Everybody that plays a sorcerer goes auto shadow every time..

    • @dragonmaster613
      @dragonmaster613 4 года назад +1

      @@alexlore4716 do you mean 'Storm Sorcerer'?
      Because Sea is still in UA.

    • @alexlore4716
      @alexlore4716 4 года назад

      @@dragonmaster613 Sea, my understanding was it was finished and good to go...

    • @dragonmaster613
      @dragonmaster613 4 года назад

      @@alexlore4716 what book?

  • @Ralyx0
    @Ralyx0 4 года назад +595

    Who else heard the roleplaying section and immediately went, "I want to make the brightest, sunniest, friendliest shadow sorcerer possible"?

    • @darkmoon2503
      @darkmoon2503 4 года назад +37

      Sort of, but not exactly. I made a good-hearted, but half-crazy Shadow Sorcerer with connections to both the Shadowfell and aberrations. He's really kind and cheerful, but some of the things he says and the morbid look in his eyes make people afraid of him.
      "Do you know what's going on in the cold shadows within my skull? ...Do you want to find out?"😜. He's weird, creepy, mysterious, and a heck of a lot of fun to RP, especially since he's good-aligned in spite of his quirks.

    • @noahmehringer29
      @noahmehringer29 3 года назад +13

      I immediately thought of making a charismatic but slightly creep/untrustworthy character like a combination of Ardin(FFXV) and Mat Cauthon (Wheel of Time).
      Someone shady but charming, but the longer you talk to them, the more duplicitous or wrong they felt. Especially if you give them the character quirk where they forget living bodies/dead bodies should be treated differently. Like he admires a dead person's looks or style of clothing, or pickpockets living people because he forgets they're not dead, thus still needing their worldly possessions.

    • @wesleyhart1950
      @wesleyhart1950 3 года назад +14

      Oh big same. The table of quirks actually made me laugh out loud; I mean, forgetting to blink, treating corpses like they’re alive, and being surprised by your own heartbeat has the makings of comedy gold.
      I’m currently playing a shadow sorcerer who tries very hard to be personable and friendly, but his heavy eye contact makes him seem a little grim and intense, or even threatening. :”) Not to mention his team mates constantly thinking he’s dead every time he’s asleep.
      I like to think there are a lot of comedic applications for those quirks, and the spells that come with them! Imagine all the pranks that teleporting into shadows can lend!

    • @hiimluca4345
      @hiimluca4345 3 года назад +3

      Oh hell yes, I'm up

    • @snakeinabox7220
      @snakeinabox7220 3 года назад

      Me working on a molymock esk tiefling but sad background and forced to be a chrimanal

  • @piedpiper1185
    @piedpiper1185 4 года назад +373

    You merely adopted the darkness. I was born in it. Molded by it. I didn't see daylight until I was already a man.

    • @ARC--5973
      @ARC--5973 4 года назад +17

      The darkness betrays you because it belongs to me

    • @JohnSmith-xm4dk
      @JohnSmith-xm4dk 4 года назад +33

      The only appropriate response when an enemy warlock casts darkness

    • @karpmageddon4155
      @karpmageddon4155 4 года назад +1

      @@JohnSmith-xm4dk 😂

    • @Dancan799
      @Dancan799 4 года назад +10

      Now I just want to make a hp tank shadow sorcerer and play him as bane, punching people to death as much if not more than using magic

    • @GigasGrimmjaw
      @GigasGrimmjaw 4 года назад +2

      @@Dancan799 Bane casts fist?

  • @willlevi981
    @willlevi981 4 года назад +286

    Monty should start saying, “Billy Mays here and I’ve got a great new subclass for you!”

    • @rothgartheviking858
      @rothgartheviking858 4 года назад +2

      I don't see the resemblance ;)

    • @cattrucker8257
      @cattrucker8257 4 года назад +4

      I hope that if he becomes a player on some other campaign, he might make a BILLY MAYS character. A bard, a bardbarian ('cause beard), a cleric or paladin a deity of money/greed - the possibilities are great!

    • @angrydwarfofdoom
      @angrydwarfofdoom 3 года назад

      He looks like one of my buddies from high school. Who was often mistaken for Billy Mays.

  • @sixty5202
    @sixty5202 4 года назад +186

    One thing I disagree with is not taking Hold Person/Monster.
    Usually the spell is meh, since an enemy will get to save against it every round, but given that Hound of ill omen gives disadvantage against the saves of your spells while it is next to a target, you can really have that spell stick around for longer than it otherwise would.
    Plus it means that your Hound is critting on each of its attacks as well, and the big bad dude next to it isn't killing it.

    • @Jdvalentine13
      @Jdvalentine13 3 года назад +12

      Especially if you take twin spell you can hit 2 at once and technically you can have 2 hounds at once if you have SP

    • @maid_of_heart3261
      @maid_of_heart3261 3 года назад +6

      @@Jdvalentine13 That's 8-11 sorcery points spent just on paralizing two targets

    • @dr9705
      @dr9705 3 года назад +7

      @@maid_of_heart3261 and? The idea isn't to use this strategy on standard thugs but to lock down the bbeg(s), giving yourself and your allies the leg up on destroying them is totally worth the price tag of SP and ending encounters much faster/safer.

    • @jacoblenwell4288
      @jacoblenwell4288 3 года назад +1

      @@dr9705 that’s really good, but I feel like blindness deafness is better. More versatile, and can hit non humanoids. Your allies won’t be Criting but with the hound it still can completely shut down any enemy

    • @funnyblog100
      @funnyblog100 2 года назад +3

      Oh I prefer Earthen Grasp. I reflavored it as a skeletal rotting hand coming out of the ground to grab someone. It was actually pretty awesome.

  • @christinadesrochers1263
    @christinadesrochers1263 4 года назад +68

    My husband and I play a drinking game to your (super great) videos: we drink every time you say "variant human" and "archetype". We love it, and your content! Tonight, we emptied our glasses when you said that variant human wasn't the preferred race. *raises cup* Here's to you!

    • @frictorious
      @frictorious 3 года назад +5

      I took a drink every time they said "shadow", and now I'm under the table.

  • @jgr7487
    @jgr7487 4 года назад +176

    8 Int & Wis Shadow Sorcerer's origin:
    "once I was walking home, I turned a wrong corner & ended up in the Shadowfell. Fortunately I was able to leave that place as fast as I could! after that I started experiencing these things like casting spells. isn't it totally rad?"

    • @RokuroCarisu
      @RokuroCarisu 4 года назад +13

      _Duuuude!_ BD

    • @cattrucker8257
      @cattrucker8257 4 года назад +13

      It was a bogus journey.

    • @maiacostea3624
      @maiacostea3624 4 года назад +3

      Exactly what I play right now, she joined the circus post-Shadowfell trip and knows literally nothing else. What a time to be alive.

    • @Zombiewithabowtie
      @Zombiewithabowtie 3 года назад +5

      (Wizard who spent 5 years in Evocation College)
      *Loads Wand of Fireballs with malicious intent*

    • @jgr7487
      @jgr7487 3 года назад

      @@gamecavalier3230 probably

  • @hiraunia
    @hiraunia 4 года назад +54

    "A Teifling or Dark Elf Shadow Sorsorer would be really edgy."
    My Attention whore Shadow Sorsorer Teifling: Look at my BEAUTIFUL Dancing Lights!

  • @alanschaub147
    @alanschaub147 4 года назад +44

    Subtle Spell + Friends seems like a good combo for a character with a high Charisma. This is especially true is you take Disguise Self and the Actor feat. Multiclassing into Warlock two levels for the Mask of Many Faces Eldritch Invocation might even be worth it to completely abuse these combos.

    • @shikichaos
      @shikichaos 3 года назад +3

      Was thinking of something similar for RP. The RP I would do a Shadow Sorcerer who has a Shadow Fiend living in his shadow and after discovery makes his shadow his Patron Fiend that he can then Summon to fight along side him. Although I admit that it would probably be terrible to do since you'd delay getting Hound (Patron) for a few levels but I would think it would be great for RP.

    • @markfrantz4612
      @markfrantz4612 3 года назад +1

      I have a character that does this. Can confirm. It’s fucking awesome.

  • @GroovyLemming
    @GroovyLemming 4 года назад +9

    Hound of Ill Omen is also great when you have a GM that likes to have their big bad Misty Step away or otherwise try to flee if they are losing. Even if they don't catch up to them, knowing *roughly* where they went by following the dog is great.

  • @DBebeful
    @DBebeful 4 года назад +65

    Very detailed, very comprehensive introduction of shadow sorcerer! Everything is covered and explained just as always, I really like your videos guys, fantastic work, you are the best!

  • @ShellySummers
    @ShellySummers 4 года назад +35

    I was sure he was going to say as a strategy " I web them and then Veo kills the enamy while Pluto and I drink some health potions."

  • @Ghost11010
    @Ghost11010 4 года назад +34

    I'm new to the sorcerer scene, however like most of my characters, they need a dark touch. My shadow sorcerer's name is Runa, a far traveller from Sossal. Her reason for leaving: to track down the white dragon that killed her parents and left her village in ruin. After a strange visit into the shadowfell, where she saw echoes of her village ruins and met one of the Raven Queen's Ravens, she returned with new and growing shadow magic due to her exposure. What I love the most is that I gave her a nordic theme. She has hair as black as the shadows, eyes of icy blue frost, and skin as cold as the dead. Her black attire is a sort of nordic goth. It's a work in progress, but I love the idea it follows.

  • @RealPhuggly
    @RealPhuggly 4 года назад +23

    I’m a huge fan of the Hexblade, pact of the Blade 3/ Shadow sorcerer + for a dark gish type character. Thematically, summoning your weapons from shadow, and using devils sight and silent image invocations. Always able to see through darkness and really mold the shadows with silent image. Then pumping all that with the powers of a shadow sorcerer. Though I haven’t made this character myself, it is on my “to be played” list.

    • @theonlymatthew.l
      @theonlymatthew.l 4 года назад

      I like using pact of the chain and having an invisible imp gathering all kinds of information for me.

    • @keithcarrigan1390
      @keithcarrigan1390 4 года назад

      Ja .Woods , i have a Dragonborn with a similar build

    • @corsaircaruso471
      @corsaircaruso471 Год назад +1

      I’ve also been thinking about a Shadow Sorcerer/Hexblade build. Seems very thematic and, honestly, pretty easy to optimize. Sorlocks are amazing and I’d be excited to figure out exactly how to play this one.

  • @TheHornedKing
    @TheHornedKing 4 года назад +52

    Shadow magic and necromancy are universally my favorite types of magic (especially combined), so the Shadow Sorcerer is one of those perfect fits for me.
    When I hear "shadow magic" though, the first thing that comes to mind is firing shadow bolts, or creating tantacles of physical shadows that grab or slash my foes, and the Shadow Sorcerer doesn't seem to have anyting like that, nor does there seem to be any spells like that. I suppose some spells can be flavored to be more like that though.

    • @alexstroud3615
      @alexstroud3615 4 года назад +4

      You looked at the Aberrant Mind Sorcerer? That's got a lot of that stuff.

    • @ViperLord21
      @ViperLord21 3 года назад +6

      Might want to check out Kobold Press's Deep Magic, that book has a whole section filled with shadow magic spells that pretty much fit that description.

    • @witcher_helms5144
      @witcher_helms5144 2 года назад +3

      I know I'm very late to the party but there are spells like Shadow Blade (which can be thrown) and the various Hadar/Tentacle spells that kinda fit that theme.
      I'd say Eldritch Blast could mimic the Shadow Bolts pretty well since 'Force' isn't really described visually. But to make the most out of EB you would want to be a warlock rather than a sorcerer.

    • @sparkeytwo239
      @sparkeytwo239 10 месяцев назад

      @@witcher_helms5144 or get Magic Initiate to get the EB spell as well as some extra spells to go with your list

  • @cursehunter1250
    @cursehunter1250 4 года назад +22

    I was waiting for the end of the intro to end with "I am Sebastian Crowe and I just killed you."

  • @greyscaleadaven
    @greyscaleadaven 4 года назад +33

    Here for the best Sebastian boi and his beautiful DM

  • @ClosetGeek_DnD
    @ClosetGeek_DnD 4 года назад +18

    Amazing set boys! Love how you captured the 70s basement in a middle class Ontario neighborhood. Wood paneling, ping pong table and old book shelves. Makes me feel like a kid again - well done!

  • @Shadowgaming908770
    @Shadowgaming908770 4 года назад +5

    Finally! Where warlock is my favorite class, Shadow Sorcery is my favorite subclass! It's so dark and mysterious and I turned that into my favorite character I ever played. I made a backstory where my character spent a year in the Shadowfell and instead of going mad or being overwhelmed by the darkness, he embraced it and became a shadow sorcerer. Such a fun subclass overall, I love it!

  • @releasethekrakaren2611
    @releasethekrakaren2611 4 года назад +47

    Really digging these new subclass vids. Looking forward to revisiting Drakkenheim next tuesday!

  • @wesleyhart1950
    @wesleyhart1950 3 года назад +20

    Love this! Also want to point out, personally when I read the table for shadow sorcerer quirks it made me laugh out loud and envision a Wednesday Adams like character.
    Edgy and brooding is fun, but never underestimate the subclass’s potential for a comically macabre character as well, like Henry from Fire Emblem: Awakening, who makes crow and corpse puns and doesnt take his own safety or impending death seriously!
    I myself have a young shadow sorcerer who forgets to blink, and his distressing heavy eye contact often causes him to accidentally intimidate people he is trying to charm! 😄

  • @saelinsmall
    @saelinsmall 4 года назад +62

    Is it just me, or would a drow shadow sorcerer make an excellent Harper agent?

    • @scook9999
      @scook9999 4 года назад +9

      Nobody expects the Drow Harper Agent!

    • @nightflame69
      @nightflame69 3 года назад

      Or a zenterum

    • @aaronhumphrey2009
      @aaronhumphrey2009 2 года назад

      Yes, as would a Favored Soul of Ellistrae. Subtle- and Twinned-Spell Metamagic are my favorites.
      Followed by Quicken Spell at higher levels..

  • @spambaconeggspamspam
    @spambaconeggspamspam 4 года назад +80

    You can't use Darkness and Shadow Blade at the same time and that makes me sad.

    • @GustavoMartins-hg9wl
      @GustavoMartins-hg9wl 4 года назад +2

      You could, if you take some levels as a shadow monk. And actually use it as a monk weapon at that, because it becomes a small, light and finesses weapon, basically a shortsword. You can talk to your dm at that.
      Or you can take 2levels of warlock, get devils sight, and be able to see even in magic darkness.

    • @GustavoMartins-hg9wl
      @GustavoMartins-hg9wl 4 года назад

      Trying to make a build like that: Shadow Monk, warlock, and Ranger Gloomstalker. You can cast Darkness, be able to see in it, and get advantage in it. To the shadow monk, it is not a spell so it dont require concentration (if I did not mostras) , so with 2levels warlock, you could get devils sight, and be able to see in it, and be invisible. 3 levels inGloomstalker give you more darkvision, hunters marks, and bonus movement and damage in the first round. Trying to figure if it is good to get some levels assassin rogue, for the sneak attack, or if it is better to stay at gloomstalker.
      The idea of this character, is that it is a assassin , that was trained since his/her childhood in the art of assassination, like a ninja. It comes from a Cult, or maybe a dark organization that works for the kingdom, or maybe something like the Darkbroterhood. And it uses the darkness to assassinate and to be a spy. Could do a Tabaxi, for feline agility, or a Half Elf for more damage potential with elven accuracy

    • @reyjay8571
      @reyjay8571 3 года назад +5

      @@GustavoMartins-hg9wl the issue is they're both concentration spells. So the moment you cast one the other vanishes. You can circumvent this by talking with your dm and creating an item that can cast shadow blade. Opens you up for another spell and doesn't require you holding concentration.

    • @GustavoMartins-hg9wl
      @GustavoMartins-hg9wl 3 года назад

      @@reyjay8571 well yeah, there is that.

  • @bathth3ory
    @bathth3ory 4 года назад +7

    I've just started a new campaign where I'm playing a Yuan-Ti Pureblood Shadow Sorceress starting at L6. Watching this video gave me some great insights into how to RP her. Cheers DDs! 😎

  • @spagandhi
    @spagandhi 4 года назад +26

    My shadow sorcerer eventually found some spectacles of devils sight
    You wouldn’t believe how well a sorcerer that gets see-through darkness so cheaply can work

    • @johnl340
      @johnl340 4 года назад

      That has to be a homebrew item?

    • @spagandhi
      @spagandhi 4 года назад +1

      I think so, mine was a rare wondrous item

    • @johnl340
      @johnl340 4 года назад +1

      @@spagandhi I just did not see it in the DMG so was curious

  • @c_bass1971
    @c_bass1971 4 года назад +8

    “This ability saves you from embarrassing deaths.” What?! Rewinds quickly. That must be why this video was recommended for me.

  • @DoctorMcHerp
    @DoctorMcHerp 4 года назад +10

    Ah, my favorite Sorcerer origin. Shadow Hound on a boss for the saving throw disadvantage, and then Polymorphing it into a harmless little creature for fun.

    • @MurdersMachine
      @MurdersMachine 4 года назад +4

      Yeah, polymorph is really bad as an offensive spell. Like, I'm amazed people still suggest it. You do realize that the enemy gets all of their original hitpoints back once you kill their polymorphed form, right?

    • @insanenessity
      @insanenessity 4 года назад +3

      best way to use it offensively is to polymorph them into something like a rabbit and then drop them from 1000ft up. They take all the fall damage except 1.

    • @bubbles9829
      @bubbles9829 2 года назад

      Into a hamster 🐹? So adorable and harmless. T

  • @bronzedragon18
    @bronzedragon18 2 года назад +2

    My Shadow sorcerer is Shadow Nine, a warforged who was a military scout. Buried in a cave in, he's freed decades later radically different in both appearance and class. He gained2 crystals,1 of which is a arcane focus, the other holds a trapped entity who seems to be the source of SN's abilities...

  • @WylliamJudd
    @WylliamJudd 4 года назад +12

    I love that Psychic Scream specifies that being killed by it explodes your head!

  • @theawkwardpotato1973
    @theawkwardpotato1973 4 года назад +3

    Shadow sorcerer and twilight domain cleric. An amazing pair thematically, roleplay wise, and mechanically.

  • @TheKillaShow
    @TheKillaShow 4 года назад +31

    What if I told you, there is no limit to how many active hounds you can have active at a time. If you have sp you can keep summoning them.

    • @AETippett94
      @AETippett94 3 года назад +4

      Wait.... WHHHHHAAAAAATTTTT?!?!?!?!?!

    • @x1xPandax1x
      @x1xPandax1x 3 года назад

      Please explain

    • @TheKillaShow
      @TheKillaShow 3 года назад +4

      @@x1xPandax1x Read the ability, it doesnt have any limitations on number.

    • @animewatcher2025
      @animewatcher2025 2 года назад

      Thank you, My Dm will have another headache

  • @watchface6836
    @watchface6836 4 года назад +12

    39:20
    Love ya’ Joe, but damn ya’ll we’re so close to the greatest squad of assassins in all of Drakkenhiem.

  • @tadasbotyrius2451
    @tadasbotyrius2451 4 года назад +8

    Dudes, just rewatch your older episodes, you really up your energy:) Amazing content, my top dnd stream and info dumps. Dimension 20 has amazing Dm as well, nice to see you guys connecting.

  • @hawwtpocket9366
    @hawwtpocket9366 4 года назад +8

    Thank you for the Elven Accuracy tip and flavored spell choices. Shadow Sorcerer is my back up character and this video was very helpful in inspiring my character creation. Love your videos

    • @maid_of_heart3261
      @maid_of_heart3261 3 года назад

      Elven Accuracy is also amazing for a wild magic sorcerer because you can simply declare advantage on every attack. If you're into the chaos of wild magic it's really worth it

  • @bmraiche
    @bmraiche 4 года назад +4

    Absolutely love hearing your picks for spells and reasonings, both role-play and practical. This is super helpful as the Sorceror is such a pain to narrow down due to their limited spell choices. Hope you guys go the opposite way and give us a Divine Soul Sorceror video soon! Curious to see how you'd spec them, as a backup healer or as a divine blaster 😁.

  • @YourBoyNobody530
    @YourBoyNobody530 4 года назад +6

    so ideally you'd want to play a half elf shadow sorcerer with a 17 in charisma and upon reaching 4th level pick up the elven accuracy feat using it to increase your charisma to 1 then get 20 charisma at level 8 and then the rest can be left mostly to feats or if you want to increase you skills

  • @RJSnyper
    @RJSnyper 4 года назад +2

    Another excellent benefit of the hound of ill omen is that it frees up a meta magic slot, since you are limited in the number of meta magic options that you can grab and heightened is almost a required choice for most sorcerers. This means that excellent thematic options like twin spell or subtle spell are kept available to you.

  • @dgmisal1979
    @dgmisal1979 4 года назад +2

    That was a great episode. So interesting to hear theory crafting (not a pejorative) combined with practical experience.

  • @sophiemoconnell
    @sophiemoconnell 4 года назад +3

    Awesome video guys. Your points about having a limited spell selection really hit home with me as I am playing a divine soul and I've found myself really struggling to pick spells due to having so much choice with 2 lists. Hopefully this might ease off a little with my 3 level dip into hexblade... But we'll wait and see.
    So if you guys ever decide to do a video on Sorlocks or Divine Soul Sorcerers count me in!

  • @danleighton8561
    @danleighton8561 4 года назад +5

    Love that my favourite RUclips channel is sponsored by my other favourite RUclips channel.

  • @lukeleslie9545
    @lukeleslie9545 4 года назад

    I've been subscribed to dropout from the beginning. But I am glad you guys were able to connect with them in some way

  • @LockHidude
    @LockHidude 4 года назад +4

    I was reading thru feat and found Svirfneblin Magic and instantly wanted to play Shadow Sorc with Deep Gnome.
    Really really strong feat for stealthy spell caster

  • @VerrosGildran
    @VerrosGildran 4 года назад +1

    My favorite Sorceror subclass. So much synergy in multiclassing!

  • @davilmalefant
    @davilmalefant 4 года назад +3

    Dimension 20 is awesome! The first season, Fantasy High (a play on "high fantasy"), the characters were teenagers in an adventuring academy high school. Dimension 20 also does a podcast with tips and advice, called Adventuring Academy.

  • @user-jr1bz8il5p
    @user-jr1bz8il5p 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for your nice, easy-understandable speech. Even for non-English viewer it's easy to understand you. It helps me to play better.

  • @kieranshorten5135
    @kieranshorten5135 4 года назад +2

    I’ve made a shadow sorcerer named Corvus who is a Dark elf and he’s like a member of the Addams family in the sense that he’s a really nice person but is considered creepy or weird because he finds delight in things that are morbid or usually considered depressing, like he loves bad weather and rotting old mansions and is fascinated by horrible monsters

  • @andyh2783
    @andyh2783 4 года назад +2

    So I'm about to view "The Battle of Temple Gate" and I'm super excited......still lovin the Campaign and all your vids.....kudos on the subclass guides....not sure it's been done before on RUclips

  • @ronanshimmon2328
    @ronanshimmon2328 4 года назад +6

    I love this show never stop!!!

  • @simondiamond9628
    @simondiamond9628 3 года назад +1

    15:54 to 16:00.
    Because there is very little limitation on the Shadow Walk ability at Level 14 (only in dim light or darkness to a point you can see), other than it's also a per bonus action ability and its max distance is 120 ft., a ShadowSorc. PC at night could effectively teleport/travel at will almost anywhere in a given game world.
    That's tentatively 240 ft. of movement per round (action + bonus action), not counting PC movement.
    That's 2400 ft. worth of sustained movement speed, per minute, at night (or about 27 miles per hour), which is just over 200 miles worth of movement at night per 8 hour period.
    A person can do a lot with that.

  • @joegeigerjr
    @joegeigerjr 4 года назад +1

    I recently started playing a Shadow Sorcerer in HotDQ at an AL table. These were some great pointers!

  • @Stefan-xt5sk
    @Stefan-xt5sk 4 года назад +1

    Beautiful timing, I'm starting to play as a shadow sorcerer tomorrow :)

  • @KymeraBJD
    @KymeraBJD 2 года назад

    Thanks for the the video guys! I'm going into a new campaign as an Aasimar Shadow Sorc. and this has given me a lot of great ideas on what I'll be able to do.

  • @Envy4you
    @Envy4you 4 года назад +23

    Kelly: "If you're looking at the shadow sorcerer there is a chance that you are interested in playing a character that is a little dark and brooding and a little edgy"...
    Me, looking at Aimieel, oddball, overfriendly drow shadow sorceress: "Kinda nailied it?"
    Aimieel: Blows raspberries.

  • @OceanGateEngineer4Hire
    @OceanGateEngineer4Hire 4 года назад +7

    Hey Dungeon Dudes; long time fan here, with a question:
    You guys have demonstrated a very deep understanding of the 5E mechanics and you've made a LOT of valid and logical criticisms of the system's classes/spells. Can we ever hope to see you publish some lightly tweaked "Dungeon Dudes Approved" updated versions of Fifth Edition's more erroneous classes and spells? A lot of fans would pay money for those PDF's! Personally, I'd print them out and stick them right over their respective pages in my PHB.

  • @BlackShadow1991
    @BlackShadow1991 Год назад

    Thank you for making these guides, Dudes :D

  • @Breakdown10000X
    @Breakdown10000X 4 года назад +84

    Take a shot every time they say shadow

    • @OceanGateEngineer4Hire
      @OceanGateEngineer4Hire 4 года назад +19

      I'm an alcoholic dwarf with +5 Con and even _I_ got alcohol poisoning from this...

    • @mainepants
      @mainepants 4 года назад +2

      Ive already started drinking. But. Ok!

    • @aijkar
      @aijkar 4 года назад +1

      #ded

  • @jasonmed2119
    @jasonmed2119 4 года назад +13

    Shadow Sorcerer multiclass with Gloom Stalker... Fun!!!!

    • @dicorockhimself
      @dicorockhimself 4 года назад +1

      Is he a fallen asimar or a drow?

    • @jasonmed2119
      @jasonmed2119 4 года назад +1

      VR Human

    • @theonlymatthew.l
      @theonlymatthew.l 4 года назад +3

      Hexblade Dip, even more fun 😁

    • @kittyplayz1480
      @kittyplayz1480 4 года назад

      Now you've put this into my head and I'm imagining Sebastian and Veo having a child and that being the result.

  • @Ectoghost_
    @Ectoghost_ 3 года назад

    Seeing this after making a changeling whisper bard/shadow sorcerer multiclass makes me super excited to play them in my upcoming campaign

  • @lordphobius3876
    @lordphobius3876 4 года назад +10

    Celestial Warlock Guide would be cool, as would an Oath of Conquest Paladin guide!

    • @kmoustakas
      @kmoustakas 4 года назад

      Any in depth subclass guide would be cool, I love those

    • @ZombieMonkey7
      @ZombieMonkey7 4 года назад

      Voting for Conquest, I just happen to have two very solid character concepts for shadow/conquest that I'm looking to give just a bit more polish to.

  • @thomasvlie1
    @thomasvlie1 4 года назад

    i just started playing dnd my first char ever (liking it alot atm) and i took a fallen aasimar shadow sorcerer .. i just loved the necrotic shroud part

  • @bigbearswag
    @bigbearswag 4 года назад +4

    Great episode. I just rolled a water genasi tempest cleric for a new campaign. Would love to hear your guys in depth thoughts on the sub class.

  • @clarechesher5614
    @clarechesher5614 4 года назад +2

    you guys are great - very helpful - I've played Rolemaster for the past 28 yrs and coming back to D&D (confused). I'd love to see your thoughts on a draconic origin sorcerer

  • @chriskaschafsky5846
    @chriskaschafsky5846 4 года назад +1

    Oh great job on this one. Now I have to find a group to play this class

  • @blackhobbitno1
    @blackhobbitno1 4 года назад +4

    I use a book called dark arts players companion with my shadow sorcerer. That book has a lot of shadow spells and can help make a very dark spell caster.

    • @nightflame69
      @nightflame69 3 года назад

      Where did you find that book?

    • @blackhobbitno1
      @blackhobbitno1 3 года назад

      @@nightflame69 Somewhere on the Internet. Dont remember the site. But you can try googling Dark art players companion.

  • @emophobe
    @emophobe 4 года назад +111

    It takes a certain dude to play shadow sorcerer

    • @robinthrush9672
      @robinthrush9672 4 года назад +1

      An emophiliac.

    • @rcschmidt668
      @rcschmidt668 3 года назад

      Would love to see even a mini series of the original three!

  • @kmoustakas
    @kmoustakas 4 года назад

    Perfect video and long overdue. I don't necessarily agree with your opinions but shadow sorcerers have so many things going on that the more you talk about them the more insight you get in their abilities.

  • @DungeonClass
    @DungeonClass 4 года назад

    Great analysis of a Shadow Magic Sorcerer. You sold me with the “no embarrassing deaths” argument. If I am going to die. I want to die in glory not embarrassment.

  • @ashenwuss1651
    @ashenwuss1651 4 года назад

    Man. Awesome topic. Before you guys mentioned it, I was on the idea of Dex and Cha from race. Drow ftw. Weapons proficiencies with Green-Flame Blade and advantage in the dark. Elven Accuracy is a good suggestion. Honestly, Spell Sniper and Whips, War Caster and Polearm Master. Whip main handed, staff off-hand to Polearm Master in War Caster for GF Blade on your whip. The range of the whip is fully utilized in this way due to Spell Sniper. Totally go Quickened and Subtle, then grab Twinned later
    Could multiclass into Arcane Trickster.

  • @seagullseagull7678
    @seagullseagull7678 3 года назад

    Changeling shadow sorcerer is what I’m currently playing and they’re a fun time to play. I built my character to be a blaster and a utility caster which at times can be a strain on the ol spell slots but I’m getting better at knowing when I should use supportive spells to mess with the enemies or focus on killing them. Either way twinned haste let’s me do both.

  • @Jin_1814
    @Jin_1814 4 года назад +2

    Winter Eladrin Shadow Sorcerer who is a descendant of the Queen of Air and Darkness. One day he will contact her and multiclass into warlock of the archfey. The fey theme matches the illusion magic and charm of a shadow sorcerer pretty well imo.

  • @branchcore
    @branchcore 4 года назад +2

    Dr. Falicer aka shadowman, from the princess & the frog is a great example. But I feel like he also had bard traits too.

    • @Mordechay98
      @Mordechay98 Год назад

      He is warlock. He got"friends from the other side".

  • @flareinc7413
    @flareinc7413 4 года назад

    Thanks for making this video :) Inspiring stuff.

  • @Mollohandro
    @Mollohandro 2 года назад +1

    Monty throwing out some Billy Mays vibes in the beginning promo.

  • @luckyivan1846
    @luckyivan1846 4 года назад

    Yo, so... I accidently went to full screen and both your guys' eyes are gleaming in this video... it's beautiful

  • @MrGrey-ks8cn
    @MrGrey-ks8cn 2 года назад

    Hey there, I just started playing D&D 5E and my character happens to be a Shadow Sorcerer.
    Inspired by the first episode of Dungeons of Drakkenheim and being a long time Vampire Player and Storyteller I wanted to play a Warlock, but there already was one on the party. Then I found that a Shadow Sorcerer was even better fitting my desire to play an eloquent and ambivalent negotiator with a lot of depth but being a force to reckon with on the battlefield.
    Sebastian Crowe was kind of an inspiration for me in the first place.
    But then there was the table of oddities of the shadowmagic. It was pure fun!
    Now Daeithron is a pale and cold Half-Elf with long jet-black hair, the fine features of his father's noble race paired with deep amethyst eyes and the inner thrive and cold fire his mother gifted him with as he seemed to be a stillbirth. She called to all forces to save her son. The shadows answered and infused the boy who now seems to be dead if he's sleeping.
    I like being a deceiver, explorer and dark hero that scares the shit out of my fellow partymembers as well as out of the unfortunate creatures that happen to interfere with my endeavours.
    Coolest thing is the roleplay dynamics with the human Celestial Warlock on the party, who is fascinated but also irritated by him.
    He is great fun to play!
    If you like to take a look:
    www.dndbeyond.com/characters/74838697
    And I know that it would have been more effective to take Con over Dex, but for him being heavily influenced by his elven heritage and having suffered from illness in his early years it seemed more fitting his story and concept to take Dex over Con.

  • @emy6732
    @emy6732 4 года назад

    About the sorcery points, we homebrewed a little with my DM, allowing me to get my charisma modifier worth of sorcery points once per day on a short rest. Very usefull at lower levels and still helpfull on higher level ;) (specially with a +5 CHA modifier) oh and if you're looking for a race to play the Shadow sorcerer, the Yuan -ti's adavtage on spell saving throws and immunity to poison is sweeeeeeeet!

  • @freman007
    @freman007 4 года назад +1

    Urchin/Criminal/Urban Bounty Hunter is basically my goto background for any character.
    Stealth and Thieves Tools are always useful skills to have.

  • @adriannelson4214
    @adriannelson4214 4 года назад

    I just rolled up a Shadow Sorcerer for a campaign I joined on Saturday. As the daughter of a merchant, starting off with a +8 to Persuasion is pretty good (+3 CHA, +4 from Expertise in Persuasion, +1 from Luck Stone). Female Variant Human, Prodigy Feat, Noble background. For my two spells I chose Catapult so I could use any old object nearby as ammunition, and Chaos Bolt for diversity in damage types. Only hit I've landed so far was blindfiring a crossbow vertically into the forest canopy above when we were being followed by an enemy scout with disadvantage and only +2 to hit.

  • @skullkrusher-dx4kg
    @skullkrusher-dx4kg 4 года назад

    You guys prove how this can be taken so many different ways.

  • @dirmusloner7963
    @dirmusloner7963 Год назад

    I always get tempted to play a shadow sorcerer multiclassed with hexblade warlock (pact of the blade). Up cast sorcerer spells from warlock slots (as of invocations, thirsting blade, improved pact weapon, life drinker devils sight) and metamagic from sorcerer (quickened or subtle spell) and feats war caster and resilient only

  • @Zeboki
    @Zeboki 4 года назад +2

    I’ve definitely overplayed this archetype. You can easily make minor changes like an high-elf given dark powers by Lolth the Spider Queen, slowly corrupting the High Elf into a drow.

  • @YourBoyNobody530
    @YourBoyNobody530 4 года назад +1

    I have use mold earth to great success in campaigns by using it to create full cover, and to dig up valuable materials in conjunction with the locate object spell to fund the party with literally thousands of gold and the GM hates me for it doing this is also good for obtaining certain spell components that get consumed because often times diamonds are a consumed material components and why pay for diamonds when you can dig them up out of the ground

  • @moonlight2870
    @moonlight2870 4 года назад +7

    How to use the darkness: get away from your party and cast it on yourself. That way no one can see you, but your allies are not hindered

  • @natashasurvivallady8021
    @natashasurvivallady8021 4 года назад

    I actually made a pretty blasty shadow sorcerer by using a red dragonborn, and making a backstory similar to how shadow true dragons are made. I flavored all of my fire spells to be black flame, and I used the darkness and Scorching Ray as my pretty much go to. It was fun, even if it might not have been the most mechanically effective. :)

  • @Eramiserasmus
    @Eramiserasmus 3 года назад

    Been having fun with this subclass. Combined it with Rogue Inquisitve to make a superior Arcane Trickster. Straight up monster to deal with when you combine Rogue avoidance and spell blasting Sorcerer.

  • @nonamegiven202
    @nonamegiven202 3 года назад

    I always slept on Shadow magic but recently I been wanting to try one so enjoy getting a sub from my random impulsive RUclips searching.
    Was thinking about going a little more into a death theme because if you going to be edge you might as well go all the way; Blindness/Deafness, Eyebite and Blight pairs well with the Hound's effect making for some decent debuff while Enervation plus shadow walking to stay in range is just slasher villain fun and maybe add in Blink and Etherealness to play more into the ghostly theme depending on what the group has covered.

  • @Ricardo-zo1ti
    @Ricardo-zo1ti 4 года назад +2

    One of my favourite races for the Shadow Sorcerer is the Fallen Aasimar, which fits so well the edgy theme and the mechanics. I'm kinda disappointed that you didn't talk about it

  • @balthasar7282
    @balthasar7282 4 года назад +1

    I really like the way this new video is👍

  • @antoniorezik4072
    @antoniorezik4072 4 года назад +10

    New Camera? Looks Very Crisp!

    • @jonc.6046
      @jonc.6046 4 года назад +1

      I noticed that, too. Looks good.

  • @OrangeyChocolate
    @OrangeyChocolate 4 года назад

    I have a really exciting idea for a Rogue / Shadow Sorcerer multiclass. Think of Corvo Attano from the Dishonored games and you're pretty much there.
    I'll most likely be playing that character concept in a new campaign, after my current ones have end.

  • @kevin-douglasolive3616
    @kevin-douglasolive3616 3 года назад

    I've never played a sorcerer, and I chose Shadow. This is helpful.

  • @hypersectomy
    @hypersectomy 4 года назад +3

    Right as I'm about to begin a dnd battle royale as one!

    • @hypersectomy
      @hypersectomy 4 года назад +1

      Seriously good timing chaps! Time for that twinned sickening radiance! Also took some levels in Trickery cleric...

  • @laurencebernstein1233
    @laurencebernstein1233 4 года назад

    First of all, I really enjoy your videos...
    I'm really surprised you didn't talk about Dragon's Breath. It's a huge AE damage dealer round over round, the damage type can be chosen, it scales well, and can be twinned for just a massive boost to party damage output. The only limitation is range. It's such a powerful and flexible spell for a caster with limited picks.
    The other spell I'm surprised you overlooked is Fly. With all the talk of teleportation, Fly is fantastic for mobility in and out of combat. Who doesn't want to fly?

  • @markbain8366
    @markbain8366 4 года назад +5

    I have a 1/2 elf Shadow Sorcerer, who portrays himself as "Undead" (background: Bounty hunter that got caught in a bog that was covering a portal to the shadowfae which corrupted his body and after pulling himself out looked "undead") He uses "Mold Earth" to make a grave, climb in and cover himself for long rests near the Inn that the rest of the party sleeps in (saves on money) Also his mode in combat is he uses "Twin" and spells like Chaos Bolt or Ice Knife that while target a single creature (and then twinned to second target) also deal radius damage or jump (like chain lightning) doing additional damage. add in "Empowered" to beef the damage... is pretty cool. Using the "Str of the grave" has been useful in the deception of portraying an Undead by "popping back up" when you go to 0 hp. Been VERY fun RPing. Even had a Cleric try to turn me... didn't work. (Also thought of converting to a 1/2 Orc to get a 2nd 0 hp pop up ability... ) Also using Infestation or Frostbite (also twinned)

    • @martinfriis4613
      @martinfriis4613 4 года назад

      I know this is late from when you wrote this, but you cannot twin chaos bolt or Ice knife. Jeremy Crawford has been out and stated "You cannot twin a spell that can IN ANY WAY target more than one target" meaning any spell that jumps like chaos bolt or have an AoE, like Ice Knife cannot be twinned :( Your DM might allow this, but that is how the metamagic works.

    • @markbain8366
      @markbain8366 4 года назад

      @@martinfriis4613 Thanks for the clarification. Will adjust accordingly

  • @catshitonthecarpet8520
    @catshitonthecarpet8520 5 месяцев назад +1

    This is Monty hang gesture “performance” skills at its highest form

  • @rhettnorris6220
    @rhettnorris6220 4 года назад +1

    I play a shadow sorcerer Tabaxi in one of our games! He is so much fun! It has so many battle/control mage opportunities! (I play him like a shadow kitty ninja!)
    Edit: I debated on subtle spell for a long time but my first two metamagic choices were heightened spell and twinned spell! I have no regrets so far, and twinned spell is great and cheap for doubling up 1st level spells (as long as you stay within the parameters of twinned). Heightened is the really expensive one, but for those times you just really want them to fail your saving throw it's always good to have! Combine darkness with shadow blade and you become quite an adversary!

  • @lordm2972
    @lordm2972 Год назад

    My shadow sorcerer was a half-elf Named Venvaris Othronus.
    He got pulled into the shadowfell when he was a teenager, and he escaped there after a year of being trapped. In the normal world however something close to a century had passed, and He began his journey on finding out how and why this happened to him.
    Due to being in shadowfell for so long, he had changed somewhat. Like usually it looks like he isn't breathing, and he barely blinks.
    And whenever he casts magic, shadows close to him stretch and connect to him and then he casts magic. Also if he stays in combat for 3 rounds or more his skin gradually get more grey and this blackish ichor starts to spill out of his eyes, ears, nose and mouth.

  • @knightghaleon
    @knightghaleon 4 года назад +1

    Dipping into Hexblade works very well with the Shadow Sorcerer. Or you can go with an Old God pact and become more of a battlefield controller. Take intimidation and use the hound to herd an enemy that's fleeing back to the fight so they cannot leave. Then use some of the warlock controls spells from Old God to mess with their minds.

    • @theonlymatthew.l
      @theonlymatthew.l 4 года назад

      I like taking at least two levels of Hexblade, sometimes 3. It's worth it for the Armor and Shield proficiency and Eldritch Blast alone

    • @knightghaleon
      @knightghaleon 4 года назад

      @@theonlymatthew.l The SorLock build is a really good one. Just happens that Hexblade being all kinds of shadowy power goes really well with Shadow Sorcerer. If you get to the point your hex raises a shadow from a fallen enemy, and combine it with the shadow hound, makes you feel like you're raising a small shadow army.

  • @_siglo
    @_siglo 3 года назад

    Hello DD's! I'm thinking of multiclassing a V- Paladin X / Shadow Sorceror 3 to cast Darkness, see through it, and just hit with advantage, and utilize the smites with the additional spell slots from the Sorc. :)

  • @nightflame69
    @nightflame69 3 года назад

    The last shadow sorcerer I played was a shader-ki. I got this character up to level 14 before she finally got cut down by a maralith in a boss fight. We had a seven character party so encounters could be a little bit more difficult. She went out in a blaze of shadowy glory though