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I got a question are Python and Exit Stategy not Pinnicals from Gambit or am I missremembering? They were my fav so I'm sad they got shoved under the rug :(
Ahhhh pinnacles. Loved them and hated them. Loved having “infamous” weapons to chase after but also tired of how dominant they were. Bungee just needs to find a balance in there for different weapons to constantly chase that give you a feeling of power without making you cease to care about any others. Great video Evan!
i think they did that with some vog weapons and nightfall weapons. like fatebringer is amazingly good - but far from the only thing anyone will ever use all the time. same with hung jury, xeno, things like that are infamously good but not a must have for everything like gjallarhorn in D1
I find that most people never really understood how Loaded Question worked. It wasn't a gun you fired, reloaded, then fired again. You'd keep it in your back pocket until there was a mass of red bar enemies or a single tougher one, pull it out, blast them, then switch back to your other weapon while auto-loading holster did the reloading. If you knew how to use it, it was incredible at add control and melting elite enemies. By the time it was sunset, I had over 12,000 PvE kills on mine.
I will not tolerate this Loaded Question slander! Auto loading holster, in combination with its perk is what made it the BEST special ammo fusion rifle to date. I will die on this hill!
I liked loaded question, but the perk is what limits is EXTREMELY. 8 rounds in the mag and the perk only activates on a full mag meaning it was just another useless fusion for 7 more rounds. If they’d dropped the mag size to maybe 5 - 4 it would have been more consistent.
@@LowKeyJaded No. Feeding Frenzy on Null or Plug cuts the reload time to just short of instant. If you're waiting for a holster mod, you're doing it wrong.
The biggest flex right now is not playing destiny for over a year and still having all the pinnacles. I'm starting to see d2 more in my feed so maybe I'll come back.
21% was goated, and by far my favorite. Just the sheer ad clear potential, and In sometimes slight boss dmg was insane, the beginning of overflow. What a godly gun
Let us not forget about the non-pinnacle legendary weapons that were caught in the crossfire. RIP Martyr’s Retribution, Steelfeather Repeater, and Perfect Paradox. You will forever be missed.
Their was a sidearm called “The Last Hope” with feeding frenzy and multikill clip. Arguably better than “The Recluse”. It’s a shame it’s gone. Loved that thing.
My favourite pinnacle was Breakneck I loved it so much, it was one of my favourite autos in the game at the time. The Onslaught Perk is what made me wanna get it. I used it up until they murdered it in Shadowkeep. I'll never forget that. I hope Onslaught is on a ritual auto one day
I think that, till this day, my two breaknecks have the highest bodycounts than any of the other weapons I've acquired in the years since I got them. And I haven't used them since sunsetting began.
@@saverofthehumens that would be cool. It'd give shadow price a purpose beyond good feel. Right now Tigerspite and The Number just outclass it because their perk pool is much better. Tigerspite can roll high cal / surplus (or outlaw) / kill clip. The Number can roll high cal / surplus (or killing wind) / multikill clip and has a high zoom stat. Shadow price has a limited-at-best perk pool, with its 4th slot being abysmal for pvp, so it could use something better in that slot. And while its stats are good, it's not gaining much of anything above the other two beyond feeling good to use and having an adept variant.
I know the hand cannon Rose will always be in my heart, in spite of the iffy sunsetting... Also as a Gambit advocate, my favorite pinnacle was easily either Delirium or Exit Strategy.
@@Malak-AlMawt That one is pve content. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING in this game had made me as salty as the chase for mountaintop. Landing all the rapid gl kills in pvp is my greatest achievement and suffering in this game.
As a combat bow main, I really really miss Hush. I wanna see that beautiful thing come back because it was really underrated in PvP. It's like you said, it wasn't the Recluse so almost nobody looked at it twice, but damn they missed out.
@@zephyr4299 Hush was a perfect example of how a pinnacle weapon should be. It had a strong perk that makes it stand out from it's peers, but that perk were a bit fiddly to activate.
Hard to imagine being more wrong about Loaded Question. That thing was amazing. Fusion rifles weren't meta, but Loaded Question was the exception. It was incredibly good.
Loaded Question was my favorite fusion to use, and it gave so many great memories. Used it in Raids, and loved it in PvP. Just that Erentil, and the Wizened Rebukes were so good as well. High Impacts we're super strong back in those days.
Breakneck was my absolute favourite through and through, love auto rifles anyway so the increased fire rate and reload speed with onslaught was magnificent. Hope they bring the perk back one day.
As a titan I had no problems completing the kills for the quest. Threw on AWR and SB had the kills done in like 10 games the remaining 30 games was a slog.
Boss song. it will always be king! :D such an amazing art. and what lightning in a bottle, Frank writing that in one morning on his way to work :D hahaha Legend!
My favorite was Loaded Question. That thing before auto-reload got removed was so good for everything! Ad clear, boss damage, major melting, you name it! It was also so fun to use as well!
@@range_wolf Because my mans was using it wrong. Babyboi Loaded Question is one of those guns you should pull out when there's a bunch of ads, or whenever your target isn't dying fast enough. Also, should be paired with a GOOD primary, so it does not become your sole adclear strategy. I miss seeing 182828819128282 arc explosions, as the thralls kill each other.
I definitely cared when Oxygen was sunset. I used that thing all the time. I loved it!! I used it on invades in Gambit all the time and would clean house. For some reason I could just hit some nice headshots with it. One match when I used just that, I got 35 guardian kills while invading. We ended up coming back and winning that match. I miss that gun
So I'm still kinda new to destiny, sub 200 hrs, as far as I was aware the vaulted weapons still slap in pvp due to the power level being ignored. Is that not the case?
@@RiptideAutomotive yea it is the case. As far as oxygen goes for me, I just moved on to other things when they sunset it and I wanted to enjoy the time I used it for what it was. Sometimes you have to refresh the loadout
I’m will not stand for this Loaded Questions slander. That weapon was great for killing multiple enemies at the same time and when automatic reloading made it better. It was the most underrated pinnacle.
I think the Rituals, and some pinnacles (Breakneck, Hush, Delirium, Wendigo) could come back. All the Cruci pinnacles should stay dead though. Recluse could probably come back, since it wasn’t busted as hell right when it got sunset but was just good, but Reversal of Fortune needs to stay buried far, faaaar in the ground. Micro Missile could be acceptable on a heavy GL, though.
Maybe increase rate of fire slightly on kills or multikills, I dont feel like it would be too strong since there is only so much ammo in a mag and you would have to use a chunk of a mag to kill an enemy
Grinding for Breakneck, Luna's howl and especially Mountaintop almost tipped me over the edge. I'm pretty sure its what started my Destiny breaks back then. I'd literally stop playing for 2 months and then come back later. The grind was real.
As someone who quit the game in the middle of the pinnacle season, this video was an amazing flashback to what I experienced and missed! Too bad I sucked too much at crucible to abuse those weapons
I still love how dominant Pinnacles were. With the exeption of Recluse and Revoker, I think almost all of them could have been VERY slightly adjusted to be perfectly fine.
Watching someone manually reload Loaded Question over and over was painful. The point of the gun was to keep it in your back pocket, pull it out to clear a crowd or hit a major with the high damage shot, then stow it and let auto-loading holster top it off. It was never intended to be a spam weapon where you empty the reserves, and manually reloading to try to get the damage out a little faster just left you doing nothing instead of using your primary or heavy in the meantime. Part of the reason the new Reservoir Burst fusions don't work for me is because none can roll with auto-loading.
Ahh, but now you can just throw on a fusion holster mod and presto-chango, Null Composure becomes Loaded Question’s faster-firing, void little brother.
Oh how I miss the recluse although very overused the feeling of getting it after solo Queuing while being bad at crucible felt very rewarding to use all the time
Breakneck was my favorite pinnacle. An auto that had an increase in rate of fire and damage for getting a kill. The overall feeling of melting someone or something with a weapon that shot faster than before just felt amazing.
Also if you know, each season they are bringing back a pinnacle perk on the ritual or a new weapon. Season 13, desperado. Season 14 reservoir burst. Season 15 explosive light. So next season they will. So next season they will bring back another pinnacle work. So eventually we might get micro missile or master of arms back, or my personal favorite, magnificent howl. (I know that the weapons aren’t gone, but they are sunset)
Its a tie between Recluse, 21%, and Breakneck. Their perks just absolutely went together, the Dakka potential was GLORIOUS and i just wasnt good enough with Revoker to make it my go to. Plus i LOVED gambit back then. It was a more pure fun.
So much slander for loaded question, it’s by far my favorite pinnacle, and it was so strong. The only issue with the weapon is that people used it the way it wasn’t intended. It’s a major killer and ad clearer in one shot… how is that not amazing?? And the explosion was strong enough to kill majors on its own
@@zachsuarez1830 two different types of ad clear, one shot compared to clips, and if it didn’t kill a high health major they’d be close to death regardless
Luna's howl was my favourite pinnacle because it didn't instantly make you impossible to kill you still had to hit your shots in order for it to be powerful
Current time 4/9/2024 into the light releases today, and with that we see the return of iconic weaponry. And it makes me wonder, What if sunsetting never happened?
I remember in Season 5 when everyone talked shit about the recluse when it was revealed for Season 6 and when it was released everyone was like "Woah, that thing is op"
Breakneck was my absolute favorite. Loved it so much, was fun, it felt balanced, and I loved how Onslaught made it feel. Hope we get the perk back some day, even since we've been getting pinnacle perks back.
I’m surprised how few mentions the recluse as their favorite. I literally have all the pinnacle weapons and this single one I miss the most. Never have another automatic gun feels so smooth and invincible at the same time.
I put Recluse as a very close second. My personal favorite was actually Luna's/NF mainly because I loved the lore behind it. As for the actual way they played I always mained Recluse. I miss it a ton. Which is why I love Osteo Striga now since it very closely resembles Veist SMGs, but specifically the Recluse Necrosis ornament which I bought immediately during the season that ornament came out and never switched off of. I adored that ornament. So the fact that Osteo very closely resembles that ornament made me very happy. And with it being a PvE ad clearing king much like Recluse was just makes me feel right at home wielding it.
I remember back when recluse was the meta and trying to find something to beat it until I could get it, which led to me really liking rapid fire frame sidearms. Especially because they worked pretty well with my favorite kinetic weapon, Mida Multitool.
I truly miss those days. Legendary weapons haven’t felt as special as pinnacles were back then. Also, Loaded Question was amazing. Reservoir Burst was good.
When I came back to d2 for the first time after leaving around shadowkeep, sunsetting had happened and beyond light had dropped a few months earlier and I remember loading into that first mission with recluse and 21% delirium both equipped and I think ace, good times
Luna’s howl was my favorite. An adequately difficult quest for an amazing weapon. Still amazing after its RPM nerf. Very aesthetically pleasing. We need some form of this back. Either a 3 tap 180 or a precision frame 140
After Pinnacle weapons got taken away I stopped playing for years. It was disrespectful that I lost them since it took so much to get them, not only that, anyone can get them now
Same here... Such a nice to use weapon. Shredding small fry amd still good in pvp. I kinda liket to play gambit back then bc with Mountain Top Recluse you have pvp and pve god tier weapons! I hate Gambit today but well idk... Was probably just the weapon fun
@@rickyrickles It means that the max power level is 1100. You can’t level it’s power level anymore. So technically it’s stuck at 1100 until they remove sunsetting. Which hopefully they do.
Bungie: We made some pretty difficult quests with some of the strongest guns in the game. We hope you like them! The community: *Uses them constantly for their unfathomable power* Bungie: You're using them too much, so now you can't use it at all thanks to Light level restrictions.
i love variety but for whatever reason I absolutely loved mountaintop and recluse. watching six shots converge on a target from your whole raid team was always so entertaining
i feel like every perk from the pinacles should come back, some with changes like reversal of fortune and micro missile. and idk how no-one is talking about harmony being basically a nerfed master of arms
Favourite pinnacle is definitely Mountaintop, very closely followed by none other than the Recluse. MT + Recluse + Anarchy is my all time favourite loadout, definitely the most fun loadout I've had in D2.
Favorite Pinnacle was The Mountaintop, hands down the best special weapon in terms of versatility. Wanna ad-clear? Mountaintop. Wanna do single target boss damage? Mountaintop. Wanna snipe something from an infinite range? Mountaintop. It fit every build so well that it was almost never removed from my loadouts. It just kinda sucks that it got nerfed into the ground PLUS sunset. I think that what they did to micro missile was kind of uncalled for since they basically nerfed the damage of the projectile and its blast radius. Tbf tho, I know I have been spoiled by it because of how useful it was but man do I miss the insanity of that gun.
Was feeling a little nostalgic and even considered getting Beyond Light. After seeing this, I'm reminded why bother putting in all that hard word only for them to take it away? The grind for these kind of weapons look like such a chore as it is.
Imagine, being like me, grinding all the pinnacle weapons, having fun, and then out of the blue, Bungie says ''Yeah fuck your grind lol' and just doesn't allow them to get max light.
My weapon with the most kills on it is still recluse with about 67000 kills on it…i‘m sad that people now complain about hard lost sectors and hard nightfalls on hero…you guys wont know the pain of going thrue quests like that
what would be your thoughts on bungie bringing back levi and doing a second WF raid race? i mean, i agree that D1 raids should have a WF race, but levi was already on D2
Why the fuck would you do a world first race on a raid where the whole playerbase already know the strat lol speedrunners would win in 10 minutes (idk what the actual we is with shortcuts outside the map) u wouldnt even finish the first encounter
After u get all these weapons, Bungie removed it but the players still cont to support them. I was in disbelief when they not only remove weapons but also content that you buy. i quickily quit this game after they implement it. Even though they hav turn back their decision but that is because half of the community hav left the game. As for PVP, don even bother full of hackers and cheaters.
The game’s in a great place right now if you ask me. Crucible is fun, best sandbox ever, only issue is for me would be the lack of maps. Plenty of varied PvE and seasonal activities to do, a lot of it being exclusive to the most hardcore players with Grandmasters and Master VoG and their phenomenal weapons. Gambit’s alright; it rewards some great weapons though. Trials is amazing now, especially thanks to the new anticheat. There’s a lot of amazing content on the horizon too, everyone’s a bit hyped for it all.
@@euphoricstamen9562 Yea i try return but 0 content for free to play. Most content need to pay like season pass. Bungie hav state that they want to limit the file size so when the next expansion out they probably will remove other old content so expect some planets will be removed. I tried pvp and yea they still match making with high kd players despite i hav stop like a year. If u are below average player just avOid pvp and i mean casual pvp not competitive or trials.
I just hate how bungie just out of nowhere told us," you only have 2 seasons left until all your god rolls, pinnacle weapons, and armor are going to be useless. Have fun :)" Like I'm 17 and spent maybe a fifth or more of my life on grinding for the armor, god rolls, and especially mountaintop. It just really pissed me off, but I held on to the hope that beyond light will introduce new weapons that may become new meta's and replace our old weapons since you know, they are getting rid of all our weapons... but no, that didn't happen maybe the dual shotgun meta was better for dps than literally anything else since, but everything else was just not worth it. It caused me to take a two year break and only coming back on small occasions. Eventually in later seasons the replacement weapons I was waiting for finally arrived. Now I'm actually having alot more fun in the game than I did back then when I had mountaintop. What I liked mostly about mountaintop was that as a grenade launcher it actually exploded on the ground it lands on, unlike every special GL except for waveframes. Recluse was just easy ad clear, anarchy absurdly busted dps. Now we have better options like witherhoard, ignition code, forebearance, funnelweb, calus mini tool, ikelos smg, linear fusions, and rockets. The game is just more fun throughout, or at least compared to how it was 2-3 yrs ago.
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Who thought I watched it?
But yes it was very nice vid
Your welcome 🙂
Hey Evan, remember me? Chad.
Calculated trajectory was getting 3 kills with grenade launchers in one life.
I got a question are Python and Exit Stategy not Pinnicals from Gambit or am I missremembering? They were my fav so I'm sad they got shoved under the rug :(
Ahhhh pinnacles. Loved them and hated them. Loved having “infamous” weapons to chase after but also tired of how dominant they were. Bungee just needs to find a balance in there for different weapons to constantly chase that give you a feeling of power without making you cease to care about any others. Great video Evan!
Oh shit it’s you
Your comment made my entire day, much love Mr Fruit ❤️
I think they kinda have with ritual weapons
Ur not verified?
i think they did that with some vog weapons and nightfall weapons. like fatebringer is amazingly good - but far from the only thing anyone will ever use all the time. same with hung jury, xeno, things like that are infamously good but not a must have for everything like gjallarhorn in D1
I find that most people never really understood how Loaded Question worked. It wasn't a gun you fired, reloaded, then fired again. You'd keep it in your back pocket until there was a mass of red bar enemies or a single tougher one, pull it out, blast them, then switch back to your other weapon while auto-loading holster did the reloading. If you knew how to use it, it was incredible at add control and melting elite enemies. By the time it was sunset, I had over 12,000 PvE kills on mine.
Exactly!
loved it for the opening crown of sorrow fight, rest in peace those knights
I think it was my first pinnacle, so yeah it holds a special place.
@@LoneSilverW0lf It also was supposed to be one of Cayde's guns he was to get from banshee... It even had a bottle opener attachment dude... Dx
@@icryduringsex Dude I used Loaded Question during the entire CoS raid…
I will not tolerate this Loaded Question slander! Auto loading holster, in combination with its perk is what made it the BEST special ammo fusion rifle to date. I will die on this hill!
I liked loaded question, but the perk is what limits is EXTREMELY. 8 rounds in the mag and the perk only activates on a full mag meaning it was just another useless fusion for 7 more rounds. If they’d dropped the mag size to maybe 5 - 4 it would have been more consistent.
I used it with auto loading rally barricades back in the day shit was cracked af
@@torrvest The only saving grace these days is the new loader perks for boots.
@@LowKeyJaded No. Feeding Frenzy on Null or Plug cuts the reload time to just short of instant. If you're waiting for a holster mod, you're doing it wrong.
And I will die alongside you, friend
Still can't believe that oxygen single handedly caused sunsetting. It was really overpowered though
It was so fun to use
@@johngancarcik5682 it really was
@@johngancarcik5682 honestly, it kinda was. Personally, tho, I loved my Vouchsafe, more
The biggest flex right now is not playing destiny for over a year and still having all the pinnacles. I'm starting to see d2 more in my feed so maybe I'll come back.
@@nicobolas9999 nah anyone can get them and use them. they just cant be infused to be viable in endgame stuff
When they first announced an smg for a pinnacle, everyone criticized how stupid that was and how weak smgs were. Oh boy was it nasty in pve and pvp
I feel like bungie buffed master of arms before it released after people were complaining just to say f you.
And then at peak it was the best non damage pve weapon in destiny history
It wrecks still, even though it’s sunset.
"Wendigo, I miss you. but you're forever, sunset."
Season of the seraph: that one didn't aged
quite so well.
Final shape: this really didnt age well
God, can you imagine if Mountain Top was still active during Season of the Splicer with the mods?
it would’ve been op as hell honestly stronger than anarchy
@@dream8870 Salvo was already strong than anarchy from some encounters.
@@KRYMauL phbt incorrect
@@KRYMauL that overtime damage for anarchy was nutty plus slugs
@@zerosixzero6699 I know, but salvo was really good for adds.
21% was goated, and by far my favorite. Just the sheer ad clear potential, and In sometimes slight boss dmg was insane, the beginning of overflow. What a godly gun
I never understood why until I got on pc. The recoil was so bad with it on console that I refused to use it.
It's ttk was the highest in the game at some point too
I miss 21% it was just pure destruction
@@anosvoldigoad3021 You mean fastest? High ttk is a bad thing.
Best gun ever for the Haunted Forest.
Let us not forget about the non-pinnacle legendary weapons that were caught in the crossfire. RIP Martyr’s Retribution, Steelfeather Repeater, and Perfect Paradox. You will forever be missed.
I loved that season lmao steelfeather repeater was such a good feeling gun
Trackless Waste as well.....IDK if many others gave it a shot but OMFG I loved that one.....
Their was a sidearm called “The Last Hope” with feeding frenzy and multikill clip.
Arguably better than “The Recluse”.
It’s a shame it’s gone. Loved that thing.
How do you think a sidearm with multi kill clip was anywhere near recluses power level???
@@harrisonyoung3857 it was, it rivaled recluse. last hope was crazy
My favourite pinnacle was Breakneck
I loved it so much, it was one of my favourite autos in the game at the time. The Onslaught Perk is what made me wanna get it. I used it up until they murdered it in Shadowkeep. I'll never forget that. I hope Onslaught is on a ritual auto one day
I love that gun too. First one for me I still use it in control
As a fan of 450s, I demand that it's on another 450
I think that, till this day, my two breaknecks have the highest bodycounts than any of the other weapons I've acquired in the years since I got them. And I haven't used them since sunsetting began.
@@tenacity25 *What if it's added to Shadow Price?*
@@saverofthehumens that would be cool. It'd give shadow price a purpose beyond good feel.
Right now Tigerspite and The Number just outclass it because their perk pool is much better.
Tigerspite can roll high cal / surplus (or outlaw) / kill clip. The Number can roll high cal / surplus (or killing wind) / multikill clip and has a high zoom stat.
Shadow price has a limited-at-best perk pool, with its 4th slot being abysmal for pvp, so it could use something better in that slot. And while its stats are good, it's not gaining much of anything above the other two beyond feeling good to use and having an adept variant.
I know the hand cannon Rose will always be in my heart, in spite of the iffy sunsetting...
Also as a Gambit advocate, my favorite pinnacle was easily either Delirium or Exit Strategy.
I want my Hush back ;n;
Most of the gambit ones were amazing
Wasn't Exit Strategy a ritual weapon?
@@emberthecatgirl8796 Yeah but similar point, they miss it. Hell I miss my legendary version of the Polaris Lance.
@@emberthecatgirl8796 yes it was a ritual weapon
I don't know what you're talking about with Loaded Question....it was literally one of the best specials in the game for add clear.
It's how I one phased the Ogre on my Shattered Throne solo run (With instant reload Lunas+Well). Thing freaking melted bosses with the reservoir shot
As a PvE guy getting MT and recluse where my biggest accomplishments in destiny.
I 100% agree
Don't forget about anarchy
@@Malak-AlMawt That one is pve content. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING in this game had made me as salty as the chase for mountaintop. Landing all the rapid gl kills in pvp is my greatest achievement and suffering in this game.
Pure facts. I used The Colony. I vividly remember discounting all objectives to camp that heavy lmao
@@hangmingzhang5067 true
Randy’s Throwing KNIFE was my favorite because of how it felt to shoot the damn thing
The gambit gun is its replacement just be warned there are a ton of perks so itll be awhile to get your preferred role.
Thank you for the compliment
Its my favourite Scout Rifle ;-;
As a combat bow main, I really really miss Hush. I wanna see that beautiful thing come back because it was really underrated in PvP. It's like you said, it wasn't the Recluse so almost nobody looked at it twice, but damn they missed out.
I loved Hush.
Hush did nothing wrong
@@zephyr4299 Hush was a perfect example of how a pinnacle weapon should be. It had a strong perk that makes it stand out from it's peers, but that perk were a bit fiddly to activate.
Hard to imagine being more wrong about Loaded Question. That thing was amazing. Fusion rifles weren't meta, but Loaded Question was the exception. It was incredibly good.
Easily one of the best PvE weapons ever. No idea what he's talking about.
100x this. I'm pretty sure Huckleberry and Loaded Question were glued to my character in just about every activity for a few seasons.
Loaded Question was my favorite fusion to use, and it gave so many great memories. Used it in Raids, and loved it in PvP. Just that Erentil, and the Wizened Rebukes were so good as well. High Impacts we're super strong back in those days.
Breakneck was my absolute favourite through and through, love auto rifles anyway so the increased fire rate and reload speed with onslaught was magnificent. Hope they bring the perk back one day.
As a titan I had no problems completing the kills for the quest. Threw on AWR and SB had the kills done in like 10 games the remaining 30 games was a slog.
Pinnacle weapons were so unique and powerful you could basically carry 3 exotic weapons
"We don't know why D2 was bad at launch." - Image shows Luke Smith's face square and center.
Real smooth, Evan.
Yep.. most good guns were actually impossible for me to get so I said✌️and played ark for the last 4-5 years
@@floored_4x490 that sounds like a you problem and much less the games fault
@@branchygiraffe yes that's true.
Do you want to talk about your insecurities since we are here pointing out the obvious?
@@floored_4x490 lmao toxic boi
@@branchygiraffe i mean some of those quest steps were pretty horrible and i doubt many people had fun doing them so it‘s also a game problem i guess
I...wasn't expecting the opening of Red Alert, but you've brought back some wonderful memories by using that song...
Hell March was my jam
Imagine that... the Hellmarch before a video about Recluse and Mountaintop.
Boss song. it will always be king! :D such an amazing art. and what lightning in a bottle, Frank writing that in one morning on his way to work :D hahaha Legend!
Here’s an old one: “we found out that shotgun apes are a problem so we have decided to nerf breeakneck for no reason.
We found that people love using Breakneck, so we sunsetted 70% of the game!
I miss wendigo the most. It was the best feeling gl in the game. Sad how they gutted explosive light for the rocket launcher
Wendigo got me through Niobe Labs. And I didn’t even know how the perk worked lol
Right there with ya brother
I kept forgetting it had blinding nades even though I remember it always stunning the ogres in COS
The rocket is kinda cracked tho.
@@davidboyajian1399 it was garbage till they buffed it today still the perk went down from 70 to 15 now 25 %
I miss mountaintop. That thing took me through a hundred prophecy runs
I used it last season in the first encounter for add clear, it's a shadow of it's former self but it helped me get the emblem
When the mountain top quest came out, I was so relieved to be a faithful fighting lion user. Those kills were done pretty quick
I remember doing the mountaintop LFG’s where we would sit in line to be killed by grenade launchers
@@vogavation oh man those were the days
Rip Hush and Delirium, here's hoping we get another bow with archers gambit someday.
Hush was the best bow ever so much fun using it
loved hush, but man getting it was such a pain
@@jee428 yup way to much gambit to get it and now it just sits in my vault
My favorite was Loaded Question. That thing before auto-reload got removed was so good for everything! Ad clear, boss damage, major melting, you name it! It was also so fun to use as well!
I miss my baby...but hey, we got the dumb version of it
Loaded Question was one of the best guns for ad clear in the game.
Not sure why it gets so much hate in this video.
@@range_wolf Because my mans was using it wrong.
Babyboi Loaded Question is one of those guns you should pull out when there's a bunch of ads, or whenever your target isn't dying fast enough.
Also, should be paired with a GOOD primary, so it does not become your sole adclear strategy.
I miss seeing 182828819128282 arc explosions, as the thralls kill each other.
@@kiwiiruna4800 loaded with a good smg melted everything
I definitely cared when Oxygen was sunset. I used that thing all the time. I loved it!! I used it on invades in Gambit all the time and would clean house. For some reason I could just hit some nice headshots with it. One match when I used just that, I got 35 guardian kills while invading. We ended up coming back and winning that match. I miss that gun
So I'm still kinda new to destiny, sub 200 hrs, as far as I was aware the vaulted weapons still slap in pvp due to the power level being ignored. Is that not the case?
@@RiptideAutomotive yea it is the case. As far as oxygen goes for me, I just moved on to other things when they sunset it and I wanted to enjoy the time I used it for what it was. Sometimes you have to refresh the loadout
@@ryansmukala7618 Fair enough, just thought I'd ask to see if I was correct or not, have a good day!
@@RiptideAutomotive yea no problem. You are definitely correct that they are usable still in non light level enabled stuff
I’m will not stand for this Loaded Questions slander. That weapon was great for killing multiple enemies at the same time and when automatic reloading made it better.
It was the most underrated pinnacle.
Yeah but, why use a special for ad clear, when recluse existed?
I totally agree. Loaded question was absolutely great for everything
Not really, hush was the most underrated
LOaded Question was sick, especially in the third encounter of Crown
It was nice, I loved it had auto loading holster. Null composure is an o.k. replacement though.
They should un-sunset the ritual weapons. I miss Python
Also, I'd love to see onslaught com back. We need more rpm based perks
Bring back my baby Python, overflow on a shotgun was nuts in the Crucible
As long as they untie it from Rampage I would live to see it come back.
I think the Rituals, and some pinnacles (Breakneck, Hush, Delirium, Wendigo) could come back. All the Cruci pinnacles should stay dead though. Recluse could probably come back, since it wasn’t busted as hell right when it got sunset but was just good, but Reversal of Fortune needs to stay buried far, faaaar in the ground. Micro Missile could be acceptable on a heavy GL, though.
@@elizabethhicks4181 yeah. Both Revoker and Mountain top were busted. Recluse was just a really viable option
@@muckdriver Give 21% micro missile
Would've loved to try Recluse with infinite primary ammo. Used to run out all the time.
Onslaught seems like a cool perk that could come back, but they need to untie it from Rampage.
It wouldn't be the same perk then...
Maybe onslaught, subsistence instead
@@MrResources I mean they did the same with desperado. Untied it from outlaw and just made it any headshot kills.
Wendigo and recluse. Picking up orbs even past a full super is so useful for my builds thanks to explosive light (now on ascendency rocket)
Maybe increase rate of fire slightly on kills or multikills, I dont feel like it would be too strong since there is only so much ammo in a mag and you would have to use a chunk of a mag to kill an enemy
My favorite was the Hush Bow, because it felt soo good to use in pvp when you get the perk going
I liked it from the start but loved it when overload bow came to the game. Killing champions with it was so easy.
Grinding for Breakneck, Luna's howl and especially Mountaintop almost tipped me over the edge. I'm pretty sure its what started my Destiny breaks back then. I'd literally stop playing for 2 months and then come back later. The grind was real.
Outbreak, loaded question, and wendigo was my load out for a while until mountain top, recluse, and anarchy became a thing
Me too but I used some random ass rocket laucnher
I’m almost certainly convinced that the exotic smg in the Witch Queen is a Necrochasm copy.
Potentially called... Microcosm lol
@@SkeetsPlays okay that’s good. Props to you.
Yup, I thought the exact same thing and tbh I’ll love it if it plays like a Necrochasm.
Am I the only one that hated necrochasm
@@KinkShamer hate it or love it. You can’t deny that the weapon was interesting.
As someone who quit the game in the middle of the pinnacle season, this video was an amazing flashback to what I experienced and missed! Too bad I sucked too much at crucible to abuse those weapons
Loaded Question was actually very good for awhile until auto loading got nerfed out of the game.
I agree he really undersold Loaded. He does mention endgame so that might have been his point just didnt make it clear.
Auto loading was nerfed?
@@marceletta autoloading lunafactions
@@Lily-jt7wn oh, I thought he meant auto loading holster lol
He really did Loaded Question dirty.
I still love how dominant Pinnacles were. With the exeption of Recluse and Revoker, I think almost all of them could have been VERY slightly adjusted to be perfectly fine.
"And it never happened again"
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Watching someone manually reload Loaded Question over and over was painful. The point of the gun was to keep it in your back pocket, pull it out to clear a crowd or hit a major with the high damage shot, then stow it and let auto-loading holster top it off. It was never intended to be a spam weapon where you empty the reserves, and manually reloading to try to get the damage out a little faster just left you doing nothing instead of using your primary or heavy in the meantime. Part of the reason the new Reservoir Burst fusions don't work for me is because none can roll with auto-loading.
Ahh, but now you can just throw on a fusion holster mod and presto-chango, Null Composure becomes Loaded Question’s faster-firing, void little brother.
Loaded question was actually pretty good. Reservoir burst and autoloading holster was a great combo
I am here to announce SUNSETTING HAS BE SUNSET MAY CHAOS REIN ONCE MORE!
I’ll never forget grinding for not forgotten, haven’t had the same passion for PvP since
less then a month of getting it it got nerfed it took me 2 season to get it
Oh how I miss the recluse although very overused the feeling of getting it after solo Queuing while being bad at crucible felt very rewarding to use all the time
Fun fact about The Recluse: putting the "Scarlet Semblance" shader on it makes the light on it fade between red and white, like a low health alarm
Breakneck was my favorite pinnacle. An auto that had an increase in rate of fire and damage for getting a kill. The overall feeling of melting someone or something with a weapon that shot faster than before just felt amazing.
Also if you know, each season they are bringing back a pinnacle perk on the ritual or a new weapon. Season 13, desperado. Season 14 reservoir burst. Season 15 explosive light. So next season they will. So next season they will bring back another pinnacle work. So eventually we might get micro missile or master of arms back, or my personal favorite, magnificent howl. (I know that the weapons aren’t gone, but they are sunset)
Its a tie between Recluse, 21%, and Breakneck. Their perks just absolutely went together, the Dakka potential was GLORIOUS and i just wasnt good enough with Revoker to make it my go to. Plus i LOVED gambit back then. It was a more pure fun.
As much as we complained I never have had more fun when shit was broken. Pour some out for the homies.
Exactly! Y2 was the most fun in d2 in my opinion. Also getting mountain top before they made the quest easier was one of my best moments
They Sunset the items soon as I was about to get them
Then stop complaining when we have good shit.
Not only would I love to see Onslaught come back I'd love to see Breakneck be reissued altogether ! I loved that AR
Hush will always be my favourite pinnacle. really wish they would bring Archers Gambit into the bow perk pool
THIS. hush was one of the most unusual weapons but if you got good with it it was absolutely nutty
So much slander for loaded question, it’s by far my favorite pinnacle, and it was so strong. The only issue with the weapon is that people used it the way it wasn’t intended. It’s a major killer and ad clearer in one shot… how is that not amazing?? And the explosion was strong enough to kill majors on its own
facts, it also paired extremely well with outbreak perfected and hammerhead/auto loading spike heavy GL
@@sirsquatalot5196 a man of culture right here, perfect combos
Cause mountain top did it twice as well with more range and more damage as well as being able to use recluse
It can’t handle majors that high health, and and the ad clear is sub par to even recluse
@@zachsuarez1830 two different types of ad clear, one shot compared to clips, and if it didn’t kill a high health major they’d be close to death regardless
I really miss the Forge activity, I hope they make a return with the new crafting system next year
They wont because lore there might be something like em
@@RegulatorXIII it'd be pretty cool to see ada using some hybrid bray tech/black armory stuff to make these new guns
LET ME FARM RANDOM DEEPSIGHTS AT THE FORGE
Luna's howl was my favourite pinnacle because it didn't instantly make you impossible to kill you still had to hit your shots in order for it to be powerful
I really miss the tried and true mountaintop, recluse, anarchy combo in pve.
That was a boring ass meta
Basic af last season load out was by far my fav. Ignition Code, Ikelos Smg + anarchy
Nah izy wendigo was the best we had
Current time 4/9/2024 into the light releases today, and with that we see the return of iconic weaponry. And it makes me wonder, What if sunsetting never happened?
I remember in Season 5 when everyone talked shit about the recluse when it was revealed for Season 6 and when it was released everyone was like "Woah, that thing is op"
Breakneck was my absolute favorite. Loved it so much, was fun, it felt balanced, and I loved how Onslaught made it feel. Hope we get the perk back some day, even since we've been getting pinnacle perks back.
I’m surprised how few mentions the recluse as their favorite. I literally have all the pinnacle weapons and this single one I miss the most. Never have another automatic gun feels so smooth and invincible at the same time.
Yep, used that badboy in every pve game
Same dude, I have 90.000 kills on it haha
I put Recluse as a very close second. My personal favorite was actually Luna's/NF mainly because I loved the lore behind it. As for the actual way they played I always mained Recluse. I miss it a ton. Which is why I love Osteo Striga now since it very closely resembles Veist SMGs, but specifically the Recluse Necrosis ornament which I bought immediately during the season that ornament came out and never switched off of. I adored that ornament. So the fact that Osteo very closely resembles that ornament made me very happy. And with it being a PvE ad clearing king much like Recluse was just makes me feel right at home wielding it.
Lmao recluse was so ignorant in crucible
Funnel web is literally the same gun without the perk
I remember back when recluse was the meta and trying to find something to beat it until I could get it, which led to me really liking rapid fire frame sidearms. Especially because they worked pretty well with my favorite kinetic weapon, Mida Multitool.
I think the new artifact mods are a great way to have that pinical feel season to season and change the meta without real sunsetting.
I truly miss those days. Legendary weapons haven’t felt as special as pinnacles were back then.
Also, Loaded Question was amazing. Reservoir Burst was good.
When I came back to d2 for the first time after leaving around shadowkeep, sunsetting had happened and beyond light had dropped a few months earlier and I remember loading into that first mission with recluse and 21% delirium both equipped and I think ace, good times
Luna’s howl was my favorite. An adequately difficult quest for an amazing weapon. Still amazing after its RPM nerf. Very aesthetically pleasing. We need some form of this back. Either a 3 tap 180 or a precision frame 140
I picked up 140 NF and already gotten 300 kills on it
After Pinnacle weapons got taken away I stopped playing for years. It was disrespectful that I lost them since it took so much to get them, not only that, anyone can get them now
I miss nf and Luna’s, I Hope they bring them back and not just reprise their perks
Yessss
You can still use them in regular crucible..
@@Oaqts that’s true but I meant like bring back it’s original glory and I wanna use it in trials too
@@Oaqts no one can use 3-tapping 180 with infinite range and 100% in-air accuracy my man. bungie made sure of that
@@koray3740 yeah fair enough
My absolute favorite was the Luna’s Howl. It singlehandedly made me like handcannons
You apparently never got nf... and I'm sorry.
you can still get nf now and its still nutty in regular crucible
@@name_less7687 Well I’m a console player so I preferred the extra stability over the extra range
180s aren't real handcannons
@@rapden18 not anymore
I’ve never felt more accomplished in Destiny history than when I got Luna’s Howl, then Bungie took that away.
Oh man you’re making me miss Recluse. I love it so much. To this day, it’s the gun I have the most kills with
I’m pissed they sunset that gun specifically
@@natejohnson7601 What does sunset mean? It got removed from everyone's inventory or it's just not available for new players?
Same here... Such a nice to use weapon. Shredding small fry amd still good in pvp. I kinda liket to play gambit back then bc with Mountain Top Recluse you have pvp and pve god tier weapons! I hate Gambit today but well idk... Was probably just the weapon fun
@@rickyrickles It means that the max power level is 1100. You can’t level it’s power level anymore. So technically it’s stuck at 1100 until they remove sunsetting. Which hopefully they do.
@@rickyrickles they sunset almost all the pinnacle weapons and I’m pretty sure they sunsetted a lot of weapons that were released before beyond light
I feel like Onslaught would be an AMAZING perk to have now. I remember Breakneck and how much I used it.
The Oxygen SR3 was my favorite pinnacle just because of how satisfying it felt in PvE
My favorite pinnacle had to be Randy’s Throwing Knife. Grinding for a good Servant Leader to get that speedy scout rifle feeling back :)
I was able to get a rapid hit/kill clip roll. Made me so happy!
I would love to see onslaught and killing tally brought back into the perk pool
My favorite pinnacle was the breakneck auto rife from gambit. It was sooo fun.
Bungie: We made some pretty difficult quests with some of the strongest guns in the game. We hope you like them!
The community: *Uses them constantly for their unfathomable power*
Bungie: You're using them too much, so now you can't use it at all thanks to Light level restrictions.
21% Delierium and Recluse were fucking legendary. They may as well have been exotics.
maybe witchqueen exotic smg will be the new recluse? Pog
i love variety but for whatever reason I absolutely loved mountaintop and recluse. watching six shots converge on a target from your whole raid team was always so entertaining
"132 shots in the mag" immediately cuts to a clip with 190 I'm the mag. Pretty sure overflow went up to 208, double the 104 base mag
i feel like every perk from the pinacles should come back, some with changes like reversal of fortune and micro missile. and idk how no-one is talking about harmony being basically a nerfed master of arms
No
I feel like micro missile wouldn't be as bad in today's sandbox
@@SportySpice2004 there could well be good reasons why Bungie wouldn't want to.
I think that micro missile might be able to come back as a frame/type of GL with lowish damage but extremely high speed.
Lol 😂 you’re joking with the Harmony being like Master of Arms right?! Delusional
14:19 Wait a minute the whole team gets heavy ammo now?! I haven’t playing in about 6 months and it shows
Man I miss the mountaintop
That thing never left my side
Same. Have 40k on MT and 140k on Recluse haha
god i miss randy's throwing knife it had such a nice model too
Favourite pinnacle is definitely Mountaintop, very closely followed by none other than the Recluse. MT + Recluse + Anarchy is my all time favourite loadout, definitely the most fun loadout I've had in D2.
Favorite Pinnacle was The Mountaintop, hands down the best special weapon in terms of versatility. Wanna ad-clear? Mountaintop. Wanna do single target boss damage? Mountaintop. Wanna snipe something from an infinite range? Mountaintop. It fit every build so well that it was almost never removed from my loadouts. It just kinda sucks that it got nerfed into the ground PLUS sunset. I think that what they did to micro missile was kind of uncalled for since they basically nerfed the damage of the projectile and its blast radius. Tbf tho, I know I have been spoiled by it because of how useful it was but man do I miss the insanity of that gun.
Same man
Fave pinnacle was Recluse. Playing Last Wish as my first raid with Recluse was so much fun and an absolute cakewalk
Forsaken pvp was so good man, the last word and thorn returning was so fun.
Was feeling a little nostalgic and even considered getting Beyond Light. After seeing this, I'm reminded why bother putting in all that hard word only for them to take it away? The grind for these kind of weapons look like such a chore as it is.
They are done with sun setting, no weapons past season of arrivals will be sunset (pre beyond light)
@Kaheeros yeah
Imagine, being like me, grinding all the pinnacle weapons, having fun, and then out of the blue, Bungie says ''Yeah fuck your grind lol' and just doesn't allow them to get max light.
I can’t even use my recluse or my revoker anymore 💔
Thank the streamers and their bitching.
My weapon with the most kills on it is still recluse with about 67000 kills on it…i‘m sad that people now complain about hard lost sectors and hard nightfalls on hero…you guys wont know the pain of going thrue quests like that
21% Delirium for burning plates in Gauntlet of Leviathan. Otherwise Recluse was my favorite. That spiderweb skin and the fact it melted ads is why.
what would be your thoughts on bungie bringing back levi and doing a second WF raid race? i mean, i agree that D1 raids should have a WF race, but levi was already on D2
Why the fuck would you do a world first race on a raid where the whole playerbase already know the strat lol speedrunners would win in 10 minutes (idk what the actual we is with shortcuts outside the map) u wouldnt even finish the first encounter
_French_Soldier_ they did it for vog
I sometimes look at my recluse in the vault with 6 figures pve kills and think like "damn dude"
After u get all these weapons, Bungie removed it but the players still cont to support them. I was in disbelief when they not only remove weapons but also content that you buy. i quickily quit this game after they implement it. Even though they hav turn back their decision but that is because half of the community hav left the game. As for PVP, don even bother full of hackers and cheaters.
The game’s in a great place right now if you ask me.
Crucible is fun, best sandbox ever, only issue is for me would be the lack of maps.
Plenty of varied PvE and seasonal activities to do, a lot of it being exclusive to the most hardcore players with Grandmasters and Master VoG and their phenomenal weapons.
Gambit’s alright; it rewards some great weapons though.
Trials is amazing now, especially thanks to the new anticheat.
There’s a lot of amazing content on the horizon too, everyone’s a bit hyped for it all.
@@euphoricstamen9562
Yea i try return but 0 content for free to play. Most content need to pay like season pass. Bungie hav state that they want to limit the file size so when the next expansion out they probably will remove other old content so expect some planets will be removed. I tried pvp and yea they still match making with high kd players despite i hav stop like a year. If u are below average player just avOid pvp and i mean casual pvp not competitive or trials.
“These guns are too good, let’s sunset them because the average joe can’t earn them”
I just hate how bungie just out of nowhere told us," you only have 2 seasons left until all your god rolls, pinnacle weapons, and armor are going to be useless. Have fun :)" Like I'm 17 and spent maybe a fifth or more of my life on grinding for the armor, god rolls, and especially mountaintop. It just really pissed me off, but I held on to the hope that beyond light will introduce new weapons that may become new meta's and replace our old weapons since you know, they are getting rid of all our weapons... but no, that didn't happen maybe the dual shotgun meta was better for dps than literally anything else since, but everything else was just not worth it. It caused me to take a two year break and only coming back on small occasions. Eventually in later seasons the replacement weapons I was waiting for finally arrived. Now I'm actually having alot more fun in the game than I did back then when I had mountaintop. What I liked mostly about mountaintop was that as a grenade launcher it actually exploded on the ground it lands on, unlike every special GL except for waveframes. Recluse was just easy ad clear, anarchy absurdly busted dps. Now we have better options like witherhoard, ignition code, forebearance, funnelweb, calus mini tool, ikelos smg, linear fusions, and rockets. The game is just more fun throughout, or at least compared to how it was 2-3 yrs ago.
Favorite pinnacle was easily loaded question. Just true pve destruction. Also wasn't a pain in the ass to get.
I realize these weapons were a problem for the game, but damn do I really miss them. R.I.P.
That JOOTUN pic at the end! I remember the days of picking up "JOOTEN" ammo and not special... 🤣🤣🤣
What's my favourite pinnacle? Why wouldn't it be recluse, second is 21% delirium, close third is mountaintop.