Ring Devices Without A Subscription: What Still Works (Hint: Not Much)

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  • Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
  • Ring devices aren't exactly cheap, so the thought of paying even more for an additional monthly subscription seems silly. Surely it's worth just keeping the basic Ring functionality without a subscription, right?
    Well... as it turns out, many of the key features only work with a Ring Protect plan - whether it's the $3 per month per device option (the Basic plan), or the $10 per month option (the Plus plan, covering unlimited devices and your Ring Alarm system).
    0:00 Intro
    0:38 What you get without a subscription
    3:15 No subscription? Keep your phone nearby
    3:32 The Ring Protect Basic plan
    4:54 The Ring Protect Plus plan
    6:23 Ring lighting and alarm system
    7:18 Ending
    #RingNoSubscription #RingWithoutSubscription #RingProtectPlan
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Комментарии • 334

  • @chestercallahan8856
    @chestercallahan8856 2 года назад +142

    Ring is a rip-off. Pay all that money for your device's. Then you have to pay a monthly subscription for it's most basic functions.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +9

      Yes it's definitely not ideal, I agree. Also sorry that your original comment went missing - RUclips are auto deleting a lot recently. I seen it flash up, then it was gone ☹️
      But yes, I wish that Ring we're clearer about exactly what you get (or don't get) when you purchase the device but don't intend to get the subscription.

    • @chestercallahan8856
      @chestercallahan8856 2 года назад +4

      @@SmartHomePoint Thank you for the comment 👍🏼 your videos are on point. Keep up the great work!

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Thanks, I appreciate it 🙂

    • @TruckinGal-by1so
      @TruckinGal-by1so Год назад +2

      You don’t pay a monthly subscription. It’s annual and only $30 ANNUALLY.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +4

      Wrong, it's $4 per month or $40 per year for their Basic plan (as of 1st July). Paying monthly has always been an option - that hasn't changed in many years.

  • @Oscar-512
    @Oscar-512 10 месяцев назад +5

    Had the doorbell cam with the subscription for 3 years. Just bought two more outdoor ring cams and was unsure whether or not to buy the subscription since my trial for the two cams is about to expire. You convinced me! Great video thanks!

  • @emergenthub305
    @emergenthub305 6 месяцев назад +3

    This is why I went with the Reolink doorbell. All the functionality, without the need to get a subscription.

  • @Ppp-kk6hw
    @Ppp-kk6hw 2 года назад +4

    Just got a reminder my basic plan is coming to an end and I was wondering what to do so thanks for the video help.. I have the first ring video doorbell 1st generation. Big up from Scotland 👍

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Thanks 👍 Glad you found the video helpful.

  • @weekendwarrior3420
    @weekendwarrior3420 2 года назад +3

    I KNEW it! Thanks man, you saved me a lot of time. I don't know what I'd do without youtube!

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      You're welcome, glad this has proved helpful for you 🙂

    • @mocheen4837
      @mocheen4837 2 года назад

      If you are not planning to subscribe don’t buy it. Go with the Arlo.

    • @weekendwarrior3420
      @weekendwarrior3420 2 года назад

      I don't like selling my private info. And resent product sales that are not upfront about that (which is the bulk of them, it seems).

  • @mattmobbs2205
    @mattmobbs2205 4 месяца назад

    Mine stop showing live after the 28 days. Not payed yet though is that normal do you have to pay

  • @kiffyyoung7484
    @kiffyyoung7484 11 месяцев назад

    After paying for premium price for the hardware, Ring requires subscription which is about the same price of local security company monitoring. So will Google Nest be a better option? Google Nest allow storing and reviewing video without subscription. Thanks for the detail video.

  • @agamerplayeryt
    @agamerplayeryt Год назад +1

    Hi nice video but I have one quick question: Is there a free trial for the subscription when you first set up your doorbell? The way you explained the scenario it sounded like it but just clarifying, thanks

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Hi, thanks. Yes you should get a free trial for the first month (assuming it's a brand new doorbell, not a second hand model etc) 🙂

  • @k5guy
    @k5guy 2 года назад +57

    You will own nothing and be happy.
    This is a perfect example of not owning your own product.
    There is no technical reason for a camera running on my wifi to not have the capability to store data locally.
    Cloud services obviously could argue a fee but not having alternatives is purposely handicapped for profit.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +9

      A very good quote (own nothing and be happy), and a great point. I agree, there's no technical reason to prevent local storage for free.

  • @fevertech1870
    @fevertech1870 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm so glad i watched this video. Very informative. You bring up some very interesting points about the Protection plan. I think it's worth the cost of purchasing the plan that covers all your devices, especially when I plan on adding more cameras or other ring devices. It makes sense. Thank You very much.

  • @nathan2504
    @nathan2504 2 года назад +1

    Hello mate looking at purchasing one of these, mainly due to people throwing rubbish and people letting their dogs use my garden as a toilet. Will this let me go through and replay the footage? (Even if it doesn’t detect any of the above?) thanks.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Hey mate, sorry to hear about the rubbish and the dogs ☹️ That's the thing - Ring will only allow you to go through the footage if you buy the subscription plan. So for £2.50 per month you'll get what you want, but with no subscription you won't get any recordings saved.

  • @nanascott1342
    @nanascott1342 Год назад +1

    When you are In live view how do you keep it on live until you end it? I just got the ring second generation. I like it but I don't like that I can't change the battery out when it's dying.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Unfortunately live view will always time out after 10 minutes or so. It's a limit that Ring add so that bandwidth isn't wasted unnecessarily. And yes, being able to 'hot swap' the battery would be useful, that's a neat suggestion 🤞

  • @alvarodmg
    @alvarodmg 2 года назад +5

    I should've watched your video before I bought Ring. My 30 day free trial just expired. :(

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Sorry to hear you've been caught out too by Ring's less-than-clear messaging here 😕

  • @rbhnr
    @rbhnr 3 года назад

    Does the extended warranty only apply to products purchased directly from ring?. I bought second-hand ring doorbell pro. Will this be covered on extended warranty?. Thanks.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  3 года назад +1

      Good question - I haven't claimed on the extended warranty myself, but I'm almost certain that it applies to any Ring device, wherever you purchased it. Just be sure to keep the original purchase receipt/information.
      Having said all that, their website does say that the device should be registered in one location/account - so a second hand Pro might not qualify.
      Apparently Ring can sometimes make exceptions about it not being the original owner, but it's at their discretion.

  • @n0spam911
    @n0spam911 2 года назад +1

    Question! If there is a power down and no Wi-Fi at home, can I get push notification without paying a monthly fee?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Not unless you have backup internet. Some internet routers offer backup internet (some contain 4G or 5G SIM cards and fall back to mobile data), but of course this requires power. The Ring Alarm Pro with a power pack might be your best bet, but naturally this requires a monthly fee for the full features including backup internet.
      EDIT: A battery powered mobile hotspot could work, I guess. But you'll naturally need to reconfigure your Ring devices to use this (during the power/internet outage), which could get annoying.

  • @fpmd99
    @fpmd99 2 года назад +2

    Super helpful! Thank you.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      You're welcome, glad you found it helpful 🙂

  • @Sky1
    @Sky1 2 года назад +14

    Someone needs to invent one that uses your google drive. I don't want a monthly fee that can go up in price at any time. Its like a timeshare.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +3

      Yep that'd be nice! Reolink and Annke allow you to upload clips to a local NAS fairly easily, but Google Drive support would be sweet too.

  • @SergioGuzman-fn7cg
    @SergioGuzman-fn7cg Год назад +2

    Great video! Thanks for the post. After a year of loving my Ring doorbell, I am now learning about the required subscription plan. I only learned about it, as you mentioned in your video, when I attempted to review a video. What I find bizarre is that my friend bought the Ring device 2 or 3 years earlier and he doesn't have to have a subscription plan for everything to work. Have you heard about this?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Thanks, glad you found this video helpful 🙂 That's interesting - I don't know of any Ring devices that came with a lifetime subscription or similar. I would have assumed that your friend would also have a bunch of limited functionality without the subscription.

  • @pieter-6385
    @pieter-6385 Год назад

    hello, I have a small question: which is the benefit of having subscriptions when you don't have, neither will buy ring camera's? I am equipped with nest for camera's. Thanks alot

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Hello, It depends on the specific camera maker to be honest. Reolink and Eufy (for example) would pretty much fine without a subscription. For Nest, you do lose a lot without a subscription. I have a blog post which goes into detail on the pros and cons of Nest without a subscription, if you're interested: www.smarthomepoint.com/nest-hello-without-subscription/

  • @smokenojoke8182
    @smokenojoke8182 9 месяцев назад +3

    Funny how ring fails to mention the plan unless you do your own research. I would’ve considered local storage had I known I’d only have a live camera without subscription.

  • @jayhernandez6812
    @jayhernandez6812 2 года назад +1

    Okay I am paying 20 month and I get notification, but can't view it live and will say video processing. Also in history nothing i can view so what is the problem here, is there setting i need to correct?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Hmm sorry to hear it. The only time I get that (missing videos, videos stuck in processing) is when one of my cameras has a really weak WiFi connection. So maybe check the RSSI under Device Health first of all

  • @loger_2floofyboogaloo278
    @loger_2floofyboogaloo278 2 года назад +1

    I bought my roomates ring doorbell camera when he moved out. now i cant get a hold of him and they stopped the app that i was signed into. i cant use it now and customer service does nothing. anything i can do?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      There is a process in place for this - you should be able to add the device under your own Ring account (within the app), then Ring should automatically get in touch with your roomate:
      support.ring.com/hc/en-gb/articles/360038010351-I-would-like-to-take-over-or-change-ownership-of-a-Ring-device
      But it is a difficult issue for sure, if you and Ring are unable to get hold of him. I'd suggest to try the in-app approach, but failing that, reiterate to Ring customer support that the old owner had gone AWOL. If you have written proof that you bought the old doorbell, that should help your case too

  • @leslyegisell
    @leslyegisell 3 года назад +20

    Very helpful info! My mom is considering getting the doorbell Ring and this was a questions of mine. Thank you for the detailed info! I think the basic plan will be best for us for now!

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  3 года назад +1

      Thanks! Glad you found it helpful 🙂 Yes the fact that you can upgrade to the paid plan at any time is useful too.

  • @bugs181
    @bugs181 2 года назад +13

    Just got an email where they're phasing out the $3 per month and upgrading us to $10 per month for a single device. Since I already have a Unifi Dream Machine (UDM), I'll be replacing my Ring Doorbell with one from Unifi and get all of the features for no subscription cost and better recording capabilities (for those of us with slow broadband connections). The primary reason is because it records locally on the hard drive in the UDM. And, I also get privacy because who knows what all these large corporations are doing with our data from recordings.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment, yep I've been monitoring last night's announcements. All their changes are annoying - especially for Ring Alarm holders who have separate WiFi mesh systems too, who will now pay $20 per month for pretty much the same features they already have and pay just $10 per month for ☹️

    • @Sincerely.jeanaa
      @Sincerely.jeanaa 2 года назад +3

      What’s UDM? A camera or it’s a WiFi router ?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      bugs181 can reply later if he sees your comment, but the Unifi Dream Machine is basically a super router and network switche rolled into one, with tones of configuration options.

  • @RihnHHI
    @RihnHHI 2 года назад +2

    Hi apologies if you have already answered this question. i have the Ring Camera 4th Gen front camera only but I want to add my wife as an additional user. I'm still on my 30 day free trial. can she have shared access with the ring protect plan? how many users can be added to the shared access?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Hello! No problem - yes, you can add your wife as a shared user, that should work fine. There shouldn't be any limit to the number of users you can add - I think it's practically unlimited.

    • @RihnHHI
      @RihnHHI 2 года назад +1

      @@SmartHomePoint ok that's great thank you

  • @humbleorganics1261
    @humbleorganics1261 Год назад

    So when it says for one device for the subscription it means ring device not my phone can I download the app on like 2-3 phones and still use all the features ??

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Great question, yes it's per device. So you could install the app multiple times, but still get the full paid-for features 👍

  • @davidlaine2
    @davidlaine2 Год назад +1

    I have an Echo device and the live video will only come up when the doorbell button is pushed. The video does not come up when motion is detected.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Is that Echo listed as an announcement device within the Alexa app? You will need 'motion annoucements' turned on for that camera/doorbell too.

  • @ednasprings2624
    @ednasprings2624 Год назад +1

    I would like to kn why my card will not take to pay for my protect plan after spending 200.00 for my ring door bell can u answer that?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      I'm not sure sorry. Maybe try a different card? I've never had any issues paying for the Protect Plan to be honest. 😔 I hope you can get it sorted.

  • @BelfastBiker
    @BelfastBiker 2 года назад +1

    is the professional monitoring available in thr UK?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      They do "assisted monitoring" here in the UK. It's not as good - I believe it just contacts a predefined list of contacts you specify. They don't take control and ring the police for you, IIRC.

  • @nick32141
    @nick32141 2 года назад +2

    I just purchased a ring outdoor spotlight camera. How do I see snapshots? I can’t find the setting. Thanks

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Have you switched this on via device -> device settings -> snapshot captures? If so, you view the snapshots via the timeline (accessible by all full users, i.e. you can't be an add-on user).

    • @nick32141
      @nick32141 2 года назад +1

      @@SmartHomePoint I just purchased this camera yesterday ring outdoor spotlight camera. I have the setting on but I can’t see snapshots. I only have the free trial version. Maybe I need to pay for the subscription before I could see snap shots? Thanks

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Hmm it should work during the trial, it did for the following person. Maybe try restarting your Ring device and checking the app again? www.reddit.com/r/Ring/comments/gwze64/snapshot_capture_problems/?

  • @JS-ku1xh
    @JS-ku1xh Год назад

    Excellent video information. Thanks you. It’s $3.99 a month per doorbell now in the USA. Since I have two I did the discount plan for $39.99 per doorbell - so about $90 per year.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Thanks, glad you found this helpful 🙂 Yep good point about the price rises, I can't edit previous videos but it's good to know when/why to get the discount plan.

    • @zachdelacruz6429
      @zachdelacruz6429 Год назад

      Definitely a ripoff now though for us...Google nest is better

  • @IAMyourTrueGOD
    @IAMyourTrueGOD 9 месяцев назад

    My trial is expired, but my app still works as usual. I receive alerts. It still records. I can review recordings, adjust settings, watch live feed, download videos, and communicate via the apps neighbors section. If I get all of this for free I feel as though I have no reason to purchase the subscription.

  • @Macnastyyyy
    @Macnastyyyy 3 месяца назад

    Spot on perfect explanation. Thank you!!!!!

  • @travelpockets
    @travelpockets 2 года назад +2

    This was super helpful and all the information I needed plus more! Thank you :)

  • @Ppp-kk6hw
    @Ppp-kk6hw Год назад +1

    In your opinion what's the best video doorbell without subscription as my subscription is due again. Big up from Scotland 👍

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Hello *waves towards Scotland*. I'd probably say the Eufy doorbell. It has a higher resolution than Ring, and supports local storage.

  • @davet8469
    @davet8469 3 месяца назад +1

    Just got a notice today ( 02/9/24) basic annual fee is going up from $39.99 a month to $49.99 a month.

  • @colinfirst1689
    @colinfirst1689 3 года назад +1

    thanks mate good vlog

  • @Camrographer
    @Camrographer 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you that was very helpful. Now I can make an educated decision. I was gifted base model kit, and I have yet to add cameras.

  • @marley2319
    @marley2319 Год назад +3

    Well that told me all I wanted to know. I will keep looking, NO ring doorbell for me thank you.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Thanks, glad to hear this video helped you out 🙂 It's a pity that Ring don't offer more to people without subscriptions though 😔

  • @MsDJDaze
    @MsDJDaze Год назад +1

    Watching this a year later and thanking you for making it clear. Just got a ring doorbell #4, and have 19 more days before my trial protect plan ends. Will definitely be subscribing at end of trial.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Glad you hear you found this video helpful 🙂👍

    • @Merc399
      @Merc399 Год назад +1

      Hes got a video on how to route ring camera feeds to local storage so you dont have to pay the sub...

    • @MsDJDaze
      @MsDJDaze Год назад

      @@Merc399 Oh thanks for letting me know. Will look for it. 😃

    • @michaelcrider7445
      @michaelcrider7445 10 месяцев назад

      Wont be buying Ring

  • @TheBlove18
    @TheBlove18 Год назад

    How much will it cost a month basic plan for two cameras?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Now that the price has increased, it would be $8 per month in America or £7 per month in the UK (I'm rounding up a penny/cent in each case).

  • @flaviomartins6067
    @flaviomartins6067 2 года назад +1

    Do I have to pay every month for ring camera?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      You do if you want the recording and other features I mention. Or you can ignore the subscription plan, but then you're mainly limited to live view mode and real time notifications.

  • @asantiago0973
    @asantiago0973 2 года назад

    I love my Ring just watch the entire video just for the voice
    Thanks for the info

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Haha thanks, glad you liked it (... either the video, or the voice 😅🙈)

  • @hphillips7425
    @hphillips7425 Год назад

    Good video and thanks. I only have the doorbell so far and need to decide in about18 days

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +2

      No worries, it's a tricky decision because it does offer you a lot - but it's annoying because some of those features should be available for free IMO.

  • @evanstrain5808
    @evanstrain5808 2 года назад +6

    So basically, you have to pay to have a doorbell, when you should have just bought an actual security camera system that always records with no subscriptions. Huge scam for such a basic feature, if you consider they are using YOUR isp to let you use YOUR device.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Yep, you summed up the situation pretty well IMO 🙁

    • @delilahjed5872
      @delilahjed5872 18 дней назад

      screw "Ring" cause its a gypt. You cannot even put your phone in purse without your phone having existing Ring app small view window closed because if you do...your camera shuts off. So now your wasting your phone battery by having to keep your phone on and butt dialing or purse dialing everyrhing, or opening apps like crazy..on and on. $3.00 adds up when your making every penny count. I paid $100.00 for this thing...its going back. My alarm system will work just fine.

  • @asksomeoneelsefirst
    @asksomeoneelsefirst Год назад

    Ty this was very helpful!!

  • @Tahsin_Hussain
    @Tahsin_Hussain 2 года назад +1

    Now when I go to my Ring app. I can see previous Motion detection and Call footage.
    So my question is, is Ring saving those footage inside the doorbell or in the cloud. Because, if someone stole it, can Ring provide the footage to the police.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      They generally store it in the cloud, yes. The only exception is if you have the new Ring Alarm system and pay for Ring Protect Pro - this allows you to record to an SD card inside the alarm base station. But in all other cases, the Ring device requires internet to send the recordings straight to the cloud 🙂

    • @Tahsin_Hussain
      @Tahsin_Hussain 2 года назад

      @@SmartHomePoint Thanks. Does the cloud has a space limit e.g 500 GB

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      There's no space limit no, it can record once a week or 50 times a day without running out of space. The only real limit is that currently clips get stored for 30-60 days, but that's soon increasing to 180 says.

  • @amorphicintertia
    @amorphicintertia 2 года назад +2

    This helped me choose the best economic plan for my setup (2 devices) $30/yr x 2 = $60. Although Ring vchat recommended the $10/mo or $100/yr plan initially.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Glad to hear it helped 🙂 Yes the only real benefit of the Protect Plus plan (in your case) is an extended warranty on the covered devices, but with 2 devices, I agree that 2x Basic plans work out better.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +2

      Just a quick update - I just heard that Ring are increasing the price of Protect Basic to $40 per year, annoyingly. Right now the Protect Plus price remains the same. So there's now only a $20 per year difference for you between the two plans. I'll do a video on this asap to discuss the changes more.

    • @nauxsi
      @nauxsi Год назад +1

      Subscriptions start low but with time increase.

  • @Bresais12
    @Bresais12 2 года назад +3

    I don't know if other's devices and Ring account does the same or similar. But my Ring Cameras and Door Bell. Still have record and snap shots being saved. However, I'm just not allowed or permitted to view them because I do not have an active subscription.
    I can see them saved in the history and time line. Because of this, I went ahead and took down my Ring devices and removed the batteries from them. The cameras still record and upload to their servers only causing me to feel uneasy.
    It just seems intrusive more than anything and as though personal space and privacy of ones home and life is being violated with and without consent at the same time.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      That's certainly... odd. I can't say that I've heard of that before - you're right that both recordings and snapshots usually require a subscription. It's almost like some form of bug - Ring devices don't tend to record without the subscription. Sorry to hear it - you could try contacting Ring customer services, but I'm not sure how much help they would be.

    • @Bresais12
      @Bresais12 2 года назад

      @@SmartHomePoint they're not. I've asked and inquire about it numerous times. Even when requesting my own data I was given difficulty.

  • @nzt4890
    @nzt4890 3 года назад +6

    Now, say,"This is the BBC."

  • @tricksonafixed
    @tricksonafixed 11 месяцев назад +2

    When our subscription was over we didn’t re-up for about a month. During that time my front door camera would trigger at literally nothing all of the time. Once we got back on the subscription it stopped triggering randomly.
    I don’t think the subscription plan for unlimited devices is a bad deal. It’s just so far I am unsure about how good Ring’s ecosystem of devices actually are compared to the other options. It’s like once you commit to one you’re basically stuck with them unless if spending several hundred dollars on different brands every time isn’t an issue for you.
    Sorta sucks how they can’t offer some kind of try it before you buy it type deal.

  • @WeAreWhiteLight
    @WeAreWhiteLight 6 месяцев назад +1

    As of 11-14-23, it's now $3.99 US per month, per device.

  • @blackglovesasmr657
    @blackglovesasmr657 2 года назад +1

    Spot on

  • @nickeshamedley1078
    @nickeshamedley1078 2 года назад +1

    My trial is not up I have 22 days left but I get that same black line no recorded only when someone. Come on step

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      That's a bit odd - you definitely should get the recordings when in the trial period. If the motion is shown under the "Event History" but it says "Recording not avaialble" when you click on it, this could be a sign of a poor WiFi connection. I also have this from time to time, since I switch to a fairly budget "whole home WiFi" setup - it seems to clash with some of my Ring cameras, resulting in me losing some recordings.

  • @patrioted9543
    @patrioted9543 Год назад

    Ring does not give you a true heads up that there is an extra charge for the protection program until you have already bought their device which is a very expensive Rip Off . They remind me of telephone scammers from India. Buyer beware. Time to look around for new ones. Any suggestions?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      It's definitely frustrating from Ring 😔 Kasa, Eufy, Wyze and a few others offer better features without requiring a subscription.

  • @MuhammadKhan-yl7mt
    @MuhammadKhan-yl7mt 2 года назад

    Good stuff 👍

  • @jaimerodas3275
    @jaimerodas3275 3 месяца назад

    This guy kept adding words to a quick response like he was writing a 1000 word essay.

    • @TuLokotron2010
      @TuLokotron2010 2 месяца назад

      Lol exactly I fast forwarded through most of it.

  • @donnaprice6955
    @donnaprice6955 Год назад +2

    I bought two devices. Didn't realize that I needed to pay for a subscription, per device. I do like the way Ring works so I feel like I have no alternative but to pay for it. Wish I had seen your video before purchasing. I now feel like I got ripped off. Where can I file a complaint?????

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      It's frustrating for sure, especially because of the lack of key features if you don't pay up 😔

    • @reztheson
      @reztheson Год назад

      I bought one and realised I had to pay for subscription 😢. I feel like selling it now.

  • @samelkojje3202
    @samelkojje3202 Год назад

    Thanks for this video

  • @alexgoldstein7997
    @alexgoldstein7997 3 года назад +10

    I just realized this after purchasing....but yes the convenience and functionality off the app are worth $3 IMO. Great video.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  3 года назад

      I agree entirely, you get so much for the $3 per month that it does seem worth it.

    • @mocheen4837
      @mocheen4837 2 года назад

      We also have the Arlo system and are very happy with it. I would have went with Arlo again if I had known that you have to pay for the subscription.

  • @millicentcaldwell8660
    @millicentcaldwell8660 Год назад

    TY🌻

  • @hongthuy8187
    @hongthuy8187 Год назад +4

    I bought Ring and found Eufy are way better. That s why Ring is cheap because they make money from the subscription, not the camera itself. F*uck Ring.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Thanks for the comment, glad to hear that Eufy are working out well for you 🙂

  • @jack_3.5mm
    @jack_3.5mm Год назад

    Thank you. Not a chance I'm getting one now...

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      It's an annoying business approach for Ring, for sure. 😕

  • @Fstop313
    @Fstop313 2 года назад +3

    Fuck. Boycott all companies that force subscription models. I want to own what I buy.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Yep, I also much prefer owning what I buy. 😕

  • @mattmobbs2205
    @mattmobbs2205 4 месяца назад

    What is it in pounds

  • @abc123fhdi
    @abc123fhdi 2 года назад +2

    Now it's $20 for monitoring unless you're grandfathered in. You could just get Eufy cams and not pay anything to record locally.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Yep, Eufy is definitely a good alternative tbf. Even Simplisafe (who were previously more expensive) now seem a decently priced alternative.

    • @mocheen4837
      @mocheen4837 2 года назад

      Arlo is free as well unless you need more than 4 cameras.

  • @SmaxyMiguel
    @SmaxyMiguel Год назад +1

    Are there cameras that don't require a f ing subscription?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Yep, I'm currently working on a review of 5 smart indoor cameras (from Ring, Wyze, Eufy, Tapo and SwitchBot). Eufy, Tapo and SwitchBot all have support for local storage, I.e. recording to a local SD card without requiring a subscription. I'll cover this more when the video is released, but it's good to know that non-Amazon owned cameras tend to offer more features without a subscription.

  • @thelastnoise9210
    @thelastnoise9210 Год назад

    What happens if the internet is cut off? Since it is could storage. I assume there is no onboard storage. Some one can bypass this.
    I'm debating with my family that Ring is not a great product and other alternatives exist. Simply for the lack of onboard storage.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +2

      You're right in your suspicions - by default, Ring devices won't record at all without the internet. The only exception is to own the Ring Alarm Pro then pay for the Protect Pro plan, which means you can activate 'Ring Edge' (local storage). But this is an expensive way of 'unhooking' your smart cameras from the internet. Better to explore Eufy, Reolink, Annke etc in my opinion 🙂

  • @blastw0rks
    @blastw0rks 2 года назад

    I Had Some Many ?’s And Your Video Answer All My ?‘s Thank You

  • @AxSxKxONE
    @AxSxKxONE Год назад

    isnt there a hard drive you can get???

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Unfortunately not, Ring have the software fairly locked down here 😔

  • @CarolRace
    @CarolRace Месяц назад

    It is called extortion. There is no warning on the box that a suscription is required. Now the app upgrade has taken away the ability to set the alarm via my phone. Looking for a class-action lawyer

  • @sharpderp7769
    @sharpderp7769 Год назад +1

    Trolls everywhere. I think the whole rope and dope thing to an already premium priced product where you don't have complete control of the footage you contribute is absolutely ridiculous!

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      Yep, I don't disagree. It's frustrating for sure that Ring are expensive and then basically require a subscription too 😣

  • @user-ef4bt4km5o
    @user-ef4bt4km5o Год назад

    lol I love your tone

  • @jb6027
    @jb6027 3 месяца назад +1

    I just CANCELLED my Ring Protection Plan. Not only does the Ring NOT work worth a hoot, but the system keeps pestering me to reset my password every 30 days, because I choose to use a laptop instead of a cell phone. The is WAY too much aggravation for a system that doesn't work well, needs to be recharged constantly, and when it does give an alert, the action is already long over. SAVE YOUR MONEY and buy something else. The Ring System is a scam.

  • @RetrieverTrainingAlone
    @RetrieverTrainingAlone 2 года назад +4

    One MAJOR disadvantage is that when a sensor is triggered there is no alert sent as a text message to phones....only email. For example, water/freeze sensor is triggered by a leaking water heater...user does not immediately get a text message on phone...only 12 hours later discovers the problem when reading emails.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Ugh yes, that's a pretty major flaw I agree. 😕

    • @Voragon
      @Voragon 2 года назад

      I think You need Chime for instant alarm notification without using phone also we have Ring Alarm Base station for more alertness inside of your house the email or phone option is just the best for if you are far away from home

    • @jacka55six60
      @jacka55six60 Год назад +1

      You can set your gmail to trigger a text to your phone. You should probably create a new gmail for your ring only. Getting a text for every email on your regular gmail gets old fast.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      @Voragon That's a nice idea for sure, I'll have to dig into that approach more.

  • @aronzabrown
    @aronzabrown 2 года назад

    I got an 💡, how about I don’t pay for the subscription at all. & when I get a Motion notification.. I will start a screen record on my iPhone if it is needed 😏

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Hah yes, that will also work well (unless you're asleep 🙈)

    • @aronzabrown
      @aronzabrown 2 года назад

      @@SmartHomePoint 🧐 … I buy subscription now

  • @mrdavewilson
    @mrdavewilson 8 месяцев назад

    We use a ring doorbell because our door does not have a window and it's easy to hide from other windows in the house. We only want notifications and live video. If I wanted a security camera with recording I'd want something a lot better than a doorbell camera!

  • @misterjoejoet1954
    @misterjoejoet1954 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for your video and letting the cat out of the bag

  • @andray5428
    @andray5428 2 месяца назад

    Would be cheaper to buy a security cam and place it close to the door for recording . also alot offer the same features without subscription.

  • @ucheucheuche
    @ucheucheuche Год назад +1

    Eufy, Eufy, Eufy video doorbell. No subscription. Local storage.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Can't argue with that - no subscription plus real local storage is a big benefit of Eufy.

  • @MK-wu1iw
    @MK-wu1iw Год назад +1

    Just found this out tonight. Fuck Ring for this . I’m going to find a better option.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      It's frustrating for sure; they certainly don't make it overly clear 😔

  • @Gillysaurxx
    @Gillysaurxx 2 года назад +2

    Its worth it to me. Your basically paying $3 a month for a security system.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Yes I agree, it seems pretty good value to me. $10 per month for an unlimited number of cameras and Ring alarm monitoring is also much cheaper than traditional CCTV and alarm subscriptions.

    • @Josh-yv3yf
      @Josh-yv3yf 2 года назад +3

      Or pay 299$ one time and get permanent coverage around your entire house. They make it dummy proof to install and you own it and your database forever

    • @zaneclifton
      @zaneclifton 2 года назад

      @@Josh-yv3yf There’s a one time payment option for the rings instead of getting on a subscription plan?

    • @Josh-yv3yf
      @Josh-yv3yf 2 года назад

      @@zaneclifton thank you for the info. My biggest problem was they didn't let me know that before we purchased it. That's really my only complaint. I ended up keeping it and I'm going to pay the subscription, they just need to let people know before purchasing.

    • @zaneclifton
      @zaneclifton 2 года назад

      @@Josh-yv3yf my question was asking you if they actually had a one time payment thing? I just asked customer support and they said they’ve never heard of the $299 one time payment thing.

  • @davehitchin2451
    @davehitchin2451 Год назад +1

    I have a LOREX camera system that gives me limited FREE cloud recordings so I cant see why RING cant give me 7 days free or something I appreciate $3pm is less than Starbucks but you just dont expect a security doorbell to not record anything - thats a stupid product IMHO! "Oh Yeah we took a video of the person that tried to get into your house while you were driving to the shops but you cant watch it or share it with law enforcement as you didn't subscribe"

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      I agree entirely, Ring are very stingy here IMO. 😔

  • @anonsforever_
    @anonsforever_ Год назад +1

    I would never pay for security. *SECURITY SHOULD ALWAYS BE FREE AND NEVER INHIBIT THE USERS USERABILITY*

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      I agree 100%. It's crazy how Ring are now also removing even more features (home and away modes) in a week or two. Ring will carry on this trend and will soon make the service subscription-only, IMO.

  • @tooslow125cc3
    @tooslow125cc3 2 месяца назад

    But can still Record for free
    New smart link on Android

  • @eyeonart6865
    @eyeonart6865 Год назад

    Two way audio is not working!

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Sorry to hear it, it should work - with or without a subscription. We have a blog post guide covering some things to check: www.smarthomepoint.com/ring-doorbell-or-camera-two-way-audio/

  • @sashacerny8227
    @sashacerny8227 4 месяца назад

    It time to return!

  • @bobbyconway1965
    @bobbyconway1965 2 года назад +2

    I found this the hard way!!! I thought I didn’t need a monthly service with these. 😕

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      Sorry to hear it, they don't make it clear 😕

    • @tqvelocity6677
      @tqvelocity6677 2 года назад

      Same, a fckn emergency happened and I can’t even see how it happened!

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад

      It's not good at all 😔 Sorry to hear your experience.

  • @williammooney8499
    @williammooney8499 Год назад +1

    After one year on the basic plan they raised the price 33%. I'm out of it. Don't worry its probably recording without my knowledge anyway.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      I don't blame you, it was a big price hike. I mean, I understand that prices do go up, but you lose so many features (without a subscription) that it feels a bit like Ring taking the mick a bit.

  • @LuisPerez-5
    @LuisPerez-5 Год назад

    It should have an integrated microSD or something like that to store that. Having it on the cloud makes no sense

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Yep I agree, this would be a lot better for sure 😔👍

  • @afcw1969
    @afcw1969 2 года назад +1

    Does the government, police, CIA, DHS, FBI, Interpol, M-16, Mossad, all get access to your videos!!!!?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  2 года назад +1

      Not by default no, although Ring would have to comply with court orders/search warrants etc if provided by one.

  • @cavitycreep
    @cavitycreep 2 года назад +1

    Fuck Ring's monthly fees get a got damn dvr

  • @n0xxm3rcyxx
    @n0xxm3rcyxx Год назад +1

    I'm actually disappointed with the no record if you don't have the subscription... if i subscribe after the incident occurred 1 hr ago i should be able to see what happened. at least at that day... a shame a guy in our apartment had his car stolen... and this doesn't work.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +1

      It's frustrating for sure. I guess Ring's position is that it wouldn't make sense to record clips (for those who aren't subscribed), just in-case that person subscribes. There could also be privacy concerns, with Ring storing video clips even if someone actively doesn't want this (hence hasn't purchased the subscription plan).
      But yep, Ring often market these as security cameras - and so it's not much good when it doesn't detect burglaries that occur 😔

  • @Harleyrk99
    @Harleyrk99 Год назад

    I can tell you from a few years experience these cameras are pretty much useless. I have ring cameras all around my house and have had people walk around and never get picked up on any of the cameras. The cameras go off as they pass them but by the time the camera turns itself on the person is already past it. This has happened many times with the propane delivery guy and the septic guy, etc. I have all of my settings on the camera set at the most sensitive to open as soon as possible. But as I say the camera wake up time is just to laggy. Also when the camera first wakes up the actual video is way to blurry to actually see anything. I pay $10 per month for the subscription. I highly recommend you look into a different alarm system such as ADT, etc. 🤠

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад +2

      Thanks for the detailed comment, and I agree entirely that Ring cameras are nowhere near as reliable as some other systems. It's fine because Ring market them as though they're premium security products, but in reality the only thing that's premium is the price 😕

  • @ryanholschuh6604
    @ryanholschuh6604 3 года назад +3

    What do you expect from a several hundred dollar device? oh of course they want you to pay more....yup. Love getting bent over for more money.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  3 года назад

      True 😂 I just can't work out why Ring devices don't support local storage/RTSP...

  • @jeremyburrage4197
    @jeremyburrage4197 Год назад +1

    Update. Now it’s 4/month per device 🙄

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Ugh yes, their price hike frustrated me 😔 I wish I could edit existing videos, but thanks for the comment highlighting the price rise.

  • @SuperGizzzmo
    @SuperGizzzmo Год назад

    Love this video mate merry Xmas

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  Год назад

      Thanks mate 🙂 Merry Christmas to you too 👍

  • @madelinebaia4417
    @madelinebaia4417 3 года назад +2

    My Ring doorbell stinks. It is constantly going off and saying someone is at door. No one is there. Irritating. Than I tried to pull up video and it would not come up during the trial time.. I would rather get a camera with no fee. That would work. The cost of the doorbell was enough, no need to pay for something that barely works for me

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  3 года назад

      Sorry to hear it... yes, it can be a bit temperamental at times. Maybe check out the Rapid Ring app and see if that fixes the speed of video playback?
      However it odd if it's saying that someone is at the door when they're not. I can't think of why that'd happening beyond a software glitch, or an actual issue with the doorbell.

    • @madelinebaia4417
      @madelinebaia4417 3 года назад

      @@SmartHomePointHow does a rapid mode app fix my ring Doorbell settings? I don't understand? Can you explain please?

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  3 года назад

      Good question, sorry for the confusion! The Ring Rapid app will hopefully allow you to get notifications a bit quicker and view video faster too, but it won't help with the other issues you've been facing I agree.

    • @madelinebaia4417
      @madelinebaia4417 3 года назад +1

      @@SmartHomePoint Thank you for the explanation. I truly appreciate it. I will try it. I hope it works. Have an awesome weekend.

    • @SmartHomePoint
      @SmartHomePoint  3 года назад

      No worries, and you too 🙂

  • @jraymond3218
    @jraymond3218 8 месяцев назад

    I bought a eufy doorbell cam. No fees. Records on an sd card. price was less than the ring doorbell. videos I,ve watched say video quality and features are the same. If not better. I would not have bought the ring if i knew that it was almost worthless. Unless you pay a yearly fee. Tired of being ripped off by ring.

  • @mickaparrish
    @mickaparrish 11 месяцев назад

    Can and ring doorbells or camaras record 24/7