HUGE WASTE OF MONEY…Are The NEW COSTCO KIRKLAND V3 Golf Balls A FRAUD? (THE TRUTH)
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2023
- DO COSTCO have a HUGE problem? Everyday golfers think of their golf balls as affordable but premium right? This could be the media, this could be Costco or it could just be what golfers are saying...But have we been led down the garden path for far too long? Are the NEW COSTCO KIRKLAND V3 Golf Balls A HUGE CON? how do the new NEW COSTCO KIRKLAND V3 Golf Balls perform and are they still great value for money?
How do the Costco V3 golf balls perform? do they perform? and should we all still buy the costco golf balls?
HUGE CON? Are The NEW COSTCO KIRKLAND V3 Golf Balls A HUGE CON? ( THE TRUTH)
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*Who’s a fan of the Kirkland golf balls?!*
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These balls are perfect for 95% of all golfers. Maybe more. Ego gets in the way more often than not. The majority of golfers have no idea how to compress a golf ball. How many pros cannot stop their ball on the greens in tournament conditions?
Couldn't agree more!!! The title of this video is very miss leading...
@@golfaddict2788 click bait! and these guys are not even good at it. Kirkland is a good golf ball for average players... children and seniors should use a softer golf ball.. simple!
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These balls are good quality at a sensible price, £30 for 24, against pro v1 at £50, for 12.
As an 18.6 index player who can lose one or two balls a round, it makes sense.
As a relatively new golfer, I initially bought Prov1s thinking that I should use the best ball available. After losing countless Prov1s, I started buying cheaper balls such as Callaway Supersofts and honestly couldn't feel much of a difference in performance. The big difference was the cost. I would give the Kirklands a go.
I usually start the year with Kirklands but switch to PROV1 when my game is in better form. They are a great value but nobody thinks they’re the same unless they’re thick.
Are you talking about v2 or v3? You keeping saying v3 but showing pictures of the v2 and mentioning information that is only applicable to v2?
The gold standard for unbiased comparisons in this case is the 2023 MGS golf ball test. When one looks thru the data and charts for these two balls, one can see that in the 2023 test, V3 is less optimistic than the comparison shown in this video. In terms of distance and across the 3 speeds MGS tests at, the V3 is only 4-6 yards shorter than the ProV in carry and total distances. One needs to ask is whether the cost of the measured MGS performance differences justifies the big up-charge to go to the Titleist product. If the increased spin of the V3 doesn’t bother you, save your money.
Their ego doesn't allow for it
Great Discussion ! And yall bring up a topic which is late being addressed.
There is currently ZERO golf balls made with a high degree of focus on shots around and on the green.
I'm talking about a Golf Ball which plays MUCH softer.
A Ball that absolutely allows for a much more controlled precision from 60 yards and in.
Even if this Ball were to fly 7 yards less off of the tee, or 5 yards less off the face of a 4 iron....
IF IT ALLOWED FOR FAR GREATER CONTROL AROUND THE HOLE, THERE IS A MARKET FOR THAT.
I believe that the golf ball manufacturers are missing out on an opportunity to steal ball sales from Titleist.
Again, I recognize and remind BOTH OF YOU, that the two of you have no real world knowledge or experience with the kind of golf ball that I am speaking of, a truly SOFT golf ball.
But I also believe that both of you could easily learn to love a ball that shaved significant strokes from 30 yards and in.
Even if that same ball cost you yards off of the tee.
Golf used to have a much higher diversity of short game ball options for golfers who believed that short game is of premier importance.
Now days a ball is either a 2 piece, distance focused rock....
Or a high-end, premium, semi-soft ball like the ProV1.
But no one makes a SOFT BALL anymore. SOFT on the cover, soft in the core, soft with a wedge, and perhaps most importantly, soft off the putter blade.
Great video, one of your best, and whether the golf manufacturers realize and recognize it or not, there is an untapped area of focus which is not being realized in today's ball market.
This is a remarkable comment. Those balata balls spun like crazy and were great around the greens. Some how golf lost it's way with distance as the primary focus.
Well said, agree totally….
I'm a 16 cap that plays to a 12-14 for some stretches. I play mainly Vice Pro and Maxfli Tour for my weekend money games. My weekday rounds I gladly play the Kirkland as it is 95%-98% of my gamers. I actually get better results on greens with the Kirkland V3. My driver distance differences are negligible. Without hitting too many trees or cart paths I can generally get 27 holes out of a ball but I generally lose an AVERAGE of 1 ball a round depending upon the course. Tough courses with a lot of water or out of bounds I may lose 3. My SS is in the 92-97 mph range depending upon how my 57 year old surgically repaired knees feel that day.
Are you kidding? You're calling 150rpm's quite a bit of extra spin. Most club and ball testers would call that inconsequential.
These balls work well enough for me and as someone that can sometimes lose a few balls per round I find the cost/benefit works in my favor. As I improve I will evaluate other premium options - I’m just not there yet
I have found that they can scuff up fairly easily and it usually only takes a single bunker shit for me to need to switch out for a freshy
I was hitting different balls on the gc quad and was carrying various models on average of around 275 however when I went to a Kirkland that I had in the bag I couldn’t get it past 260 it was spinning like 4000 rpm. I do not however know which version it was
In my experience and yes I have tried Kirkland against my usual ball which is TM TP5. I found the Kirkland ok but I lost distance, not massive distance but maybe 5-10 yards. They felt similar to TP5 but sort of clicky off the irons. Where I most found a noticeable distance was on spin, these Kirkland's might be cheaper and I get that but they offered me no gain and in fact a lot less spin. If I wasn't worried about the control element I would game them, they offer something. Something else I found was they didn't work well into a headwind, but I find that PROV1 don't either, TP 5 for me do. We are all different and I accept I am not a robot and cannot put the same swing on a shot every time.
I just bought some of these… are they suitable for me who swings about 92mph. Or are they two hard. I usually play softer balls with a compression between 50-60.
Costco doesn’t pitch this ball as a pro v1 competitor. People speak about it because they wonder if they can get away with a cheaper ball. If you compared the kirkland ball to a similar priced ball, i suspect it would out perform, all day long. Titleist is well known for the highest quality, round, weight, finish, wear. I’d be interested in this type of data, out of 12 balls, how many are “perfectly shaped.’
I love pro v1's, but at my level of golf, it's just too expensive, so the Kirkland fill the gap perfectly and do feel nice on a solid strike
I got a batch of the Kirkland V2 in New Zealand; the cover doesn’t survive. My wedges just rip the cover up straight away. I’ve even taken paint off with the driver…
I play the Kirkland in the summer and a Srixon AD333 in winter. I do this for a couple of reasons. I’m a 20 handicap and don’t bomb the ball, my pitching wedge goes about 110 and so on, so the 5/10 yards I lose with the Kirkland I gain back because of the warmer air and roll and Ad333 in winter because I can get a nice yellow one and the main reason I use these balls is price. I have been known to have the same ball for a couple of rounds but also can lose a couple on one hole 😩
I would love the see the big boys bring their prices down so it becomes more affordable to play their golf balls.
Most of my golfing was in the 90's, before the Pro V1 came out (2000). I got down to about a 15 handicap when I was "on", but usually roughly bogie golf. I played whatever ball was on sale. I preferred golf balls with a softer feel. My drives have never been very long, but I was almost always straight, not matter the ball used. I started up again a few years ago after about a 15 yr dry spell. (maybe 1 or 2 rounds per year) Now I'm trying to get in at least 9 holes every week. I prefer the matte green balls, it's easier for my aging eyes to see. I was using MaxFli SoftFli's and was pretty happy with those for a bit, then I moved on to Callaway SuperSoft. I'm been very happy with these. I've experimented with 4 of the Cut Golf balls, I'm liking the Cut Grey the best. I've noticed a big difference around the green. There's a much better response with the Cut Grey over the MaxFli, Callaway SS, Cut Blue, Red, and DC. I also tried out the Kirkland V2's and a couple of the Seed balls. KS V2's felt nice, but they scuffed easily. The Seeds were long, but weren't great around the green. I'll game any of the above simply because the prices are right and play is fairly good. I'd like to try the KS V3 yellow. I lose maybe a ball a round. I play for fun with a group of guys. Pro V1's, TP5, BF's are twice the price of the others and the benefit to my game would be minimal. I (and some of my golf buddies) use the KS balls understanding that they are not Pro V1 clones.
Kirkies offer 10% less performance of the ProV for 75% less cost, in my city anyways. ($18.49/doz vs $72.99/doz in CDN) Can't beat the value.
I am a yellow pro V1x person , I purchase when titleist gives a buy 3 get 1 free. I have been told by fitters I need a golf ball that spins more for me to get height. My swing speed is 94 with a driver , I have no problems with the V3 Kirkland yellow balls. They might not go as far as my V1X but the cheep ball has me going for my driver more. This has helped my scoring that is for sure.
Yes I agree with you in the wind it does spin more but for the money it's real value!
My golf spy did a thorough check on all balls some years ago. They said version one of the Kirkland, spun as much as a Srixon range ball, the softer version. But when version 2 came along, the high spin, in all clubs, inc driver, had been reduced, but still higher than a pro v. Version 3, hasn't altered much from V2. Come on, the price point is a HUGE SAVING on a pro V. If your single figure, the Kirkland is not for you, its for those wanting good spin, softer feel, stopping power on the greens, without paying top dollar.
Kirkland never marketed their balls = to pro V, priced accordingly to performance imo. Not sure your video makes any sense
They’re known as a good VFM ball. I’ve never heard anyone say they’re as good as Pro V1’s. Personally I prefer Srixon Z-Stars. My mate plays Bridgestone.
So this video could kind of be summed up quicker… Kirkland has never claimed to be a Pro V. so there’s no con involved. And the word con refers to a company making claims that can’t be followed up on.. There were no claims by Costco at all about this ball performing like a Pro V.
I'm in Australia, but I always use Kirkland. I have tried changing but always come back to them. 14 HC, so when I lose one, I don't mind or spend too much time looking
We used the v2 Kirklands and the only thing that let them down was durability. Reviews say that's been sorted now in the v3.
I swear by Titleist TruFeel balls.
I have been playing the Kirkland ball for several years now and I am very happy with it. Is it as good or better than the Pro V1 I don't know. I do know they don't advertise it as being as good or better than the Pro V1. I have a brand new box of the V3 in my hands and it doesn't say anything about the Pro V1 on the box, plus they don't compare themselves against on their website. I believe most of the comparisons are coming from RUclips golfers They are simply a 3 piece ball with a urethane cover.
It's a $1.16 good ball in the U.S. and Costco doesn't market it as comparable to a Pro V1.... so how is it a "fraud"? Think you guys needed something to discuss for the show. 😂. As someone stated already, it's a great ball for the masses. Been playing them for 5 months, tested them against the "premium" balls on my simulator and on the course and for me, I have not seen any difference in performance. Like zero. The numbers are identical for this 5 hcp.
I didn't like V2 that much, a little too spinny for me, and the V3 have been great. First round I almost greened a 345 yard hole with a big hill at the end to a bit of an elevated green, knew these were keepers. I love the yellow ones too.
I play off 9, and the Kirkland V2 is very good and stops well from 100 yards in. I haven’t tried the V3 yet but I will give it a go, when I need to buy more.
These guys talk far too much.... MSG tested these in detail, they are a great buy and for most of us a perfect match between cost and quality.
3-pc urethane cover for $1 a ball will never be a huge waste of money.
when you buy Kirkland nobody thinks the they are buying ProV1
I use Kirkland balls and they work great for me plus if I lose 1 it’s only a quid if I lost a ProV1 that’s 4 quid.
I'm still working through my v2 balls.
Personal confession. I am a bogey golfer. I will most likely always be a bogey golfer. The vast majority of people playing golf at their best will only ever be bogey golfers. My worst time of the year is early spring after a Winter layoff. I buy a box of the TaylorMade Noodle golf balls, 24 pack to start the season. At $21.99 US Dollars list price that is .92 cents per ball rounded up. The Pro V1 has a list price of $55.00 US Dollars for a pack of 12. That is $4.58 US Dollars per ball. I can't find a listed price for the new V3 Kirkland ball but the current ball has a list price of $34.99 US Dollars for a 24 pack. That is $1.45 per ball rounded up. For my level of play, the TaylorMade Noodle works just fine especially when starting a new season. I do upgrade later in the spring to a more mid-level priced ball. I particularly like the feel of Bridgestones, but that is personal preference. What I am getting at is I buy a properly priced and properly performing ball for my level of play. For those of you who are better than a bogey golfer, please feel free to adjust your ball choice appropriately. Have a good round.
RUclipsrs are the ones comparing them to ProVs. I don’t think Costco has ever said these are equal to ProVs. My understanding is that the first version was the closest ball to ProVs and why Titleist sued them for it. Until Patents are past their prime, you won’t see another ball like ProVs.
Let's be honest... no one on single digits is going to be using the Kirkland except for practice rounds. I do that. Kirkland for practice rounds, PRO V1 or TP5 for any round that is serious
for mid to high handicappers, they are perfect.
I dont know how the ball would be concerned "a bit if a con" Kirkland has never said their ball performs better then the Acushnet Pro V1. It's just cheaper. The Pro V1 a waste on money for the average weekend hack, the Kirkland ball is a better price point plan and simple. The ~ line is not a minus - sign, it's called a tilde, it's representation is about or approximately. So the ball compression is about/approximately 90
Compression (~90)
Most golfers waste their money on premium balls that they can't compress
Like them but they Ballon on driver shots and cover isn't durable
Yellow are available now in U.S.
I’m guessing you are going to try them again because you didn’t try the V3 the first time.
You would play those in a scramble and don’t want to ruin your day searching for $5 Pro V1’s when you hit a bad one into the trash.
I've messed with them (play off between 0-2) and they're ok. Bit spinny off the driver which i don't really like but with irons you can hardly tell the difference in the dry. I don't like the way they grab our greens (bent) when wet, they just don't grip properly. Dry ... not seeing the issue you can rip them back as good as anything on a normal day.
I feel this commentary is harsh as everyone compares themselves to prov's and besides T/M i don't think any others are close, is it a huge problem .... hell no. They're def a competitor .... just not a terribly close competitor ... but no less than any other brand.
Would i use in competition ... nope. Socially ... yep, who cares.
Another difference i have found is in the wind, they just don't deal with it very well.
If these were stamped as Calloways / Srixons etc people would be way more positive, The 'supermarket brand' stigma is strong among golfers. I'm hanging to see what the market does when they bring out some sort of bladed looking iron (i'm backing in a T/M 790 knockoff with speedfoam), doesn't matter if they're unreal .... people will go back to the supermarket thing.
If you're playing off say over 8'ish .... just buy them, you'll never get close to being effected, you won't even know.
Costco doesn’t call them V3 or claim it’s a new version. It’s a mistake youtube is making.
I play them all the time. Great ball for my game
It’s winter and they’re a cheep ball that you might loose on a leafy fairway 🤷♂️😬
2400 - 2600, not that much difference. And dude your not that good .
For the average golfer, the pro v is overpriced
So maybe it is more like a Pro V1x?
PRO V's don't suit my level of golf (or price) so I would favour the kirkland for that reason....and as someone else commented ...a lot of golfers egos say they have to play Pro V's....
This just in: Kirkland is not the same as ProV1. Seriously, I'm not sure why anyone would actually believe that a Kirkland would be identical to a ProV1. I play Kirkland because I find them to be a great value. If I want a ProV1, I'll buy them.
Do you score differently
Hw can you claim fraud when they are so cheap? If people like playing with them at the price they pay that's all that's important!
They rip after any hard wedge shot.
Want a cheap ball try the Slazenger v3´s
a pro-v does more damage to the average golfer than it does good.
Mid to high handicap players should NOT be using a ball that spins that much.
Guaranteed you will lose more balls.
Most mid to high handicap golfers don't compress the ball to impact more spin
@@edanzore how many balls did you slice or hook when you started playing more?
Imagine adding even more spin to those shots. Any good coach will tell a mid/high hcp not to use a high spinning ball.
95 plus % of all golfers will not know the difference between a Pro V1 and the Kirkland yet the kirkland is FAR better than almost all other balls you can buy.
If you are okay with losing 15 yards with the driver (and I am slow swing speed player), then Kirkland is your ball.
Only for high swinger speeds. 99% don't hit it that hard
The truth is 90+% of golfers can’t tell the difference between a PV1 and Kirkland. If you want to spend $50 a dozen for PV1 have at it! Otherwise the $35 for 2 dozen Kirkland is a much better buy.
Even ball labs my golf spy said they was most spinning ball ever.
Their is one reason why people would use them
Cost !!!!
They actually perform well
@@edanzoreNot quite as long as other balls but at the price who cares .
@@follyfour506 mostly off the driver for high swing speed players. A good player can adjust. There is more to the game than distance
cheap but not my fa8
Kirkland ball is terrible. Vice are way better
Sorry but is that guy drunk?
Soft and spinny
These dudes are clowns lol😂
Making something out of nothing, talking heads
Now that's not nice
It’s RUclips !😊
Kirkland don't advertise them as being just as good as ProV1. Pointless video, ridiculous thumbnail.
As an old timer whose power is long gone, I’m able to get these balls to bite on my approach shots. For the majority these are good balls. You guys give the impression you’re elite golfers and your analysis is worthless for 99% of golfers.
Title = Misleading
Result = Decent Balls
End Result = 🤡