It shows how weak legislation is. The courts can only punish according to sentencing guidelines. That bunch of fascists who claim to be a democratic government for the people in Westminster are not at all interested. Law is something they prefer to ignore.
You wanna put every driving offence through the court system? FPN is good enough for most of these. But the driving is abysmal. Especially that mini. Wow!!
Those fines are absolutely stunningly stupid!!!! There were at least 3 of them that should've been disqualified, yet they all got fines under 200 💷 pounds 💷. That isn't going to deter a rock!!!
You need to look at the actual legal definition of what it is you think applies, then you will see it is not correct. A death is not always a murder or manslaughter. The CPS do not help much by insisting on mis-charging people in order to guarantee a plea bargain and the need for a trial in which the evidence would be flimsy or the person would be found not guilty. For example, a person defends themselves on a night out after an attack and the other person dies from the injuries caused. That person can not be charged with murder, it would be manslaughter. So the CPS know the jury might find the person not guilty of manslaughter and he will walk free or could agree to say he caused S18 Wounding. If it is in the public interest or someone has an agenda or axe to grind, they will mis-charge with murder and force the person to say they accept manslaughter just to get a conviction. I see mis-charging all the time, it is a waste of public money when CPS decides on cases based on how good they will look for the public and NOT on the actual facts and evidence in the cases.
I do not know whether its due to the last 2 years of lockdown but, myself and others I have talked too seem to agree that people have been driving more dangerous and aggressive lately.
I'd blame the media for posting about people not being able to receive fines and getting off with warnings due to the police not being able to write and hand over tickets due to Covid.
It’s not just in the UK. It is terrible everywhere now. People are so frustrated about everything in their lives that they take it out on others whilst behind the wheel. I live in a small town in California. It seems the last two years people use stop signs as a mere suggestion 😏
I've twice fallen foul of other drivers' carelessness, and recklessness, and I support any police action like this. I have no sympathy for anyone who feels the full force of the law for their offences.
What 'action'? That old lady was nearly killed by a maniac and he gets a tiny fine and a couple of points. Does he have to ram her down and kill her before sensible action is taken against these idiots? Do you really think that these paltry 'fines' are gonna change bad behaviour? What a joke these self-aggrandizing cops are. Decades of policing and millions of pounds and the problem gets WQORSE! Pathetic.
So you are happy for there to be no Police on our roads, just a bunch of do gooders with cameras. It is the thin end of the wedge. We will become a nation of snitches playing into the hands of the State. Its ok that the police wont come out to an RTC unless someone is injured but its ok for them to report you for a video?
Full force? Many magistrates and/or judges berate defendants and threaten to impose stiff sentences and then award sentences that are a fraction of the maximum permitted.
@@cpuuk Don't you have to HAVE insurance before a 'dim view' can be taken? These people don't care about you, your crappy little fines or anyone's 'dim view'. This is just a joke to them and actually, it's a joke for law abiding citizens to have to listen to you lot bleating about what a great job you do when NOTHING changes!
I completely agree. Interesting to note the largest fines were for not providing information. Those fines needed to be at least 10 times larger and driving bans, especially the mini mounting the kerb and nearly taking out an old lady.
@@chriskberks5471 My thoughts exactly. Mondeo gets banned with £800 fine whilst the lunatic in the blus mini gets a slapped wrist. Does not make any sense.
Excellent. So careless and dangerous driving and putting lives at risk gets you 3 points and a hundred quid fine. The same as doing 32mph in a 30mph zone.
Going over the speed limit is driving without care and dangerous while putting lives at risk so yeah makes sense. 32 or 34 or 47, where do you draw the line when left down to individuals interpretation of safe? I know where I draw the line and that's the speed limit, not hard.
A few days ago, my wife received a infringement notice in the mail for speeding.. it was picked up by a speed camera. Due to the fact that, during holiday periods, here in Australia, the fines and demerit points are doubled, she was fined $900, lost 6 of the twelve points and lost her license for three months. However, on checking the date of the infringement -(after she had paid the fine), she realized that our daughter had borrowed her car on that day. She went back and told the traffic authority that that was the case. Their answer?... "If you try to change it now, you will be arrested for lying in the first place and will face three months in jail". A day or so later, our daughter revealed that she was caught speeding two days before that, in her own car and was fined $900, lost 6 demerit points and her license for three months! I am now forced to be their chauffeur and I'm not very impressed.
THIS IS INCREDIBLE THIS OPERATION HAS TO BE DONE PERMANENTLY AND IN EVERY PART OF THE UK THERE ARE MANY MANY DASHCAMS,LETS USE THEM AND GET THESE BAD DANGEROUS PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS
The title says "Dangerous Driving", but none of these offences were charged with that. It's used FAR TOO LITTLE for this kind of driving. Seems not giving information is deemed more serious than endangering others?
£100 fine a 3 penalty points for nearly running someone over? That’s hardly a deterrent. These drivers need disqualifying and the law changed to heavily penalise those that risk killing vulnerable road users.
Theres a guy at work who smells of foreign food a lot of the time ,,, and another whos in possession of an offensive wife , can they be reported too ??
depends whether the drivers in question have undermined the courts authority or not by the looks of it. Two of the least dangerous pieces of driving seemed to get by far the heaviest fines and penalty points for not revealing the drivers identity.
I would surmise that, as the Fixed Penalty for all these offences is £100 & 3 points for pleading guilty, these went to court. The court will fine according to your pay scale, and can give higher or lower fines, and can also issue more points than standard if they feel it appropriate
Well done, a force actively doing something about this. It’s needed & required to make things safe, how many accidents could’ve happened, all for the reason of getting there 30 seconds quicker.
No they aren't really doing anything about it , maybe making money on you tube. but the first two clips should have been bans....number two drives on two pavements and .just misses a pedestrian...gets 3pts. tha;ts not a driving mistake ..its being an arsehole. Anyway ...on to clip 3
I wished they had this program in Australia. Some people drive as if the road rules do not apply to them. I also believe the penalties they received for some of the offenses were not high enough.
Break the speed limit accidentally by a few miles an hour on an empty road with a camera and automatically get fined £100 with 3 points. Drive recklessly, swerving around other vehicles and people, endangering lives, so that other motorists are so concerned they take the time and effort to report it, taking up police and court time, and get fined £100 with 3 points. I'm not condoning speeding but it seems to me there's something seriously wrong with our judicial system.
Just remember that during the next round of public service cutbacks that result in fewer Police being available to deal with more problems spilling out on the streets. You Do realise there have been numerous times Police have had to respond to medical emergencies (not the Police’s job) due to a lack of ambulances? Over many decades, Mental Health services have been cut back, and people in Mental Health Crisis are often now dealt with (compassionately) by Police, as there is no available help for the unfortunate soul.
I'm surprised at the level of low penalty for what looks almost suicidal and totally inconsiderate driving which threatened the lives of others. Having dealt with the families of loved ones killed by idiots like these, I'd throw the book at them till it hurt.
I've had a dashcam for many years, but I've no idea how I can upload footage to the police. In fact, on the few occasions where I have submitted evidence, the (Wiltshire) police weren't interested.
High powered sports car dangerously overtakes oncoming traffic. Could have easily killed somebody. £40 fine and 4 points. Car drives slowly through a red traffic light £660 fine and 6 months ban. Do I assume the driver of the sports car was a magistrate or pal of the Chief Constable? May be a member of the funny handshake club.
Some of these fines aren't that much. If I was late for a flight to go on holiday I could be tempted to break a few rules, but luckily i don't fly anymore.
Some of the fines levied for life changing driving if an accident was to happen are lower than nice people get in private car parks for going a few minutes over their time!
How has this operation influenced the number of accidents in your area? As a motorcyclist I'm particularly vulnerable to the sort of driving you show here.
As car drivers we are all at risk from cyclists who try to transfer responsibility for their own safety to everyone else - and those on motorbikes that NEVER stick to speed limit and cause their own accidents and deaths.
Does this go for cycles too? How about these scooters that kids are using? Maybe cycles, scooters,mobility scooters should come with licence plates, so many times I see.dangerous manoeuvres from these people who have no road sense or consideration for other road users. Don’t just go after the cars,vans etc,go after all road users!
Re e-scooters, they’re technically mechanically propelled vehicles and Should have licences & insurance (as per the trials though licences are a sketchy point). Police Could confiscate (seize) the e-scooter and issue a ticket for no insurance; generally speaking though due to the rider most likely not having a helmet giving chase is a touchy subject. Re getting number plates for bikes, never gonna happen, too complicated and too costly to impliment
So the Mondeo owner gets £800 fine and disqualified whilst the lunatic in the blue Mini gets a £250 fine and 6 points. At the very least the driver should have a £1k fine and her car crushed for driving like that. A dangerous menace.
That's a shame. Humberside Police jumped right on one that I felt compelled to report, about two years ago. The video is available to view here on RUclips.
I must admit, just using the Southampton Millbrook Bypass regularly, I have been grinded up many times by drivers hurtling past and cutting in. I have often wondered why the cameras don't do anything as the way they drive is really dangerous and reckless.
I use the Millbrook bypass and everything what you said happens every minute of every day of every hour. Its six lanes of wreckless driving that doesn't sleep. It's got to the point where I hate it now. It's the worst road in Southampton. The three lanes each side might aswell be lanes markings for touring car races. And the traffic lights might aswell be grand prix starter lights. I've never known any road to be as bad or come near the recklessness of Millbrook road.
@@1ns4ne1d10t Lol, I know one hour before my driving test, my driving instructor thought it would be a good idea to make me drive along it during near rush hour, this was in the days before the roundabouts had traffic lights... Yes what you have to do is, practice totally ignoring all the wankers around you,
@@chunkymonkey55555 Unfortunately Millbrook Road used to be my daily commute to Hythe and the Waterside for four years. Then after I left and started a new job in Portswood. Just when I thought I kissed goodbye to using that racetrack daily I got lumbered with driving the Van's through there to serve Totton, Ashurst, Cadnam, Lyndhurst. There have been times where it's been so particularly bad along there I've said f**k it and dropped the pedal to the metal and driven like a banshee myself. Sadly everytime I've driven like a banshee on steroids I've been heavily respected by the other traffic.
i think half this drivers who drive like that sure have there license taken & put on a banned list for 10+ years & pay a bigger fine more then $1000 in towing, lot, court & etc fees
It's about time that cyclists were made to wear a hi-viz vest with a unique registration number on the back so they can also be prosecuted for their actions. Failure to wear one while cycling on public roads should be an offence.
@Nehemiah Scudder totaly irrelevant if a bike does less damage would a plane do more damage if it smashed into the ground? dosent mean cars or bicycles shouldn’t be registered just because they both do less damage then a truck or a large van. a bicycle can still kill injure and cause devastation when they hit pedestrians like a lot of children who do get ran over by cyclist who are unidentifiable and unaccounted it’s disgusting
@Nehemiah Scudder well are you afraid that as a cyclist you would no longer be the special little bitches that need protecting? Or you can step up be a real man and share the roads under the same codes and ethics as everybody else Get a car broke boy
Please, prey tell, how would this be initially enforced? Remember that e-scooters are not legal, and it’s hard enough for Police to even contemplate enforcing that??
Do all police forces have this snap system? It is awesome and people will slowly begin to realise they can't get away with this poor standard. I could send 10 clips a week
The very first example was clearly more than "careless and inconsiderate driving" it was overtly dangerous . . . This consistent leniency encourages this kind of reckless and dangerous driving . .
Outright careless and dangerous driving is not a big priority for the courts. Look at the lenient fines and penalties. You get bigger fines for parking.
I am unaware of the charge of careless and inconsiderate. At least two of these examples seemed to me to be 'Dangerous Driving' and one, endangering life. Am I wrong???
Good idea. But.... If the Law doesn't take it seriously these selfish, ignorant drivers won't either. Driving that endangers others by gross violation of the highway code should be called what it is "dangerous driving" with a compulsory ban of varying length. Repeat offence? Double length ban for every offence.
I agree some of those were definitely dangerous rather than careless. But good on Devon and Cornwall for implementing operation snap. Now this needs to be a permanent op countrywide. If people believe there's a chance of getting caught they may think twice.
was this information / videos provided from the public dash cams , or police dash cams . If its the police , well done . If its public , I dread to think of the knock on effects that could result from these postings , how long before someone is spotted on the offenders dash cam and battered to death , this self policing idea does not work far too open to exploitation / blackmail / bribery . This will go wrong.
If you wait until it's on a "police dashcam", those retards will never get caught and will potentially end up hurting someone. The only effect I'm seeing there is some dangerous people getting karma and the fact that they'll probably now think twice before pulling such moves. Road police is less and less present, the only option left is self-policing. And it's a really good thing that those public dashcams footages are received in court. I hope more countries will adopt it.
I agree, this is not acceptable. How do we know that people aren't deliberately goading and provoking other drivers into doing something stupid and then filming their reaction in order to get them fined. It's not the general public's job to act as vigilantes. And what about bias, will people seek out particular individuals in order to try to catch them doing something wrong? Or what if they happen to film a family member doing something wrong, would they submit that? Then there is the blackmail issue mentioned by the OP, which is a very good point. Plus, if this becomes widespread, the Police will reduce the resources they put into policing the roads even more and rely solely on this method. Completely ridiculous.
@Nehemiah Scudder that's so not the point here though. People should only be prosecuted based on evidence that has been collected in a fair, reasonable and consistent manner. That's exactly why the police have so many rules and regulations regarding the way they collect evidence and prepare their case for the CPS. And even they often fail to meet the required standards, meaning prosecutions have to be dropped. With this initiative they're basically ignoring all those standards and using any old video evidence, with no corroborating information, to proceed with prosecutions. It's pathetic. How would you feel if the police decided to follow you round every time you got in your car, filming everything you did and everywhere you went, ready to pounce on you as soon as you did something wrong? Yet, with this, if a private individual decided to do that to you, they could. And the police are actually encouraging it!
@Nehemiah Scudder it's a matter of consistency and equality for everyone. Why don't we get rid of the police and just have gangs of vigilantes? All the protections against police bias grew up over many years because people realised there were significant discrepancies in the way the police were behaving due to significant inconsistencies. If you sweep them away we'll be back to square one and things will just go wrong again. The problem with attitudes like yours is that you haven't learned from history and you just keep going round and round in circles repeating the same mistakes.
anyone can see the fines and points are way too low... insurance companies should be contacted....two strikes and youre out... short of a ban points should be 6 or 9 and fines nearer 1000+ than 200 quid....until the police actually clamp down you can expect to see these videos till the end of time
That traffic light was border line, we all know they change from green to Amber in a second and amber to ref just as quick. I have been driving for 60 years and an advanced driver, the time on the lights needs looking into. I have written to the Government but they do not reply.
@@mickp222 Hi Michael, In the UK, it's 3 seconds, plus or minus 0.25 seconds. See The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 Schedule 14 Part 1 Paragraph 4 sections 3 and 4. I couldn't be bothered to find out what it was before. Probably the same?
@@mickp222 if you mean the silver car following the lorry then that was not borderline. They were moving slowly and The light was red before the car reached the line. They could have stopped easily which means either they didn't look at the lights or didn't care about the lights. Either way caught bang to rights.
I am an ex NHS Professional . I’m a car driver , motorcyclist , cyclist and pedestrian. Does anyone think that these tiny slap on the wrists deter dangerous drivers . Take seatbelts out and replace with 12 inch blade !!
its just a pity other police forces were as pro active about bad driving as you guys. Im on the road every day & the driving offences I see are horrific
What do the the zigzag lane markings shown in one of the videos mean? We don't have anything like that in the U.S. The U.S. is beginning to use roundabouts, but there are only two of them within 20 miles of my home. They are more dangerous here at the moment because otherwise good drivers here may come upon one and not only have they never used one some have never even known that such things existed... and hilarity ensues. Expensive and terrifying hilarity.
in simple terms... the zigzag lines at pedestrian crossings are supposed to provide a safe zone around the crossing... eg you can't park there as it restricts view. it should be punished with 3 points on your licence. 12 points is supposed to mean an automatic ban, but some lawyers have successfully argued that the driver needs their licence for work... which in itself is ridiculous... if you NEED your licences then not driving like a knob will stop you from losing it.
Hardly a punishment for nearly taking out an oncoming car and killing the driver for fk sake shocked at the low fine should of been a lot more and 6 points for that at least, but they’d ban you for driving a ton down at empty motorway at 11 o’clock at night though with a hefty fine no doubt
how can you tell if video footage has been tampered with ? i do a fair bit of editing and i could recreate footage to look worse than it is, then render it as a single video ! using the public's ' dash cam footage' is extremely risky.
Ok, so lets just close the roads cos every class of road user has it’s less than desirable set! Cyclists are far from the worst, imho, I I drive for a living
It was not so long back that I sat in a community forum where Warwickshire police stated categorically that dashcam and similar evidence would only be regarded as heresay. As a lawyer I suggested that they were wrong and that in the UK at that time plenty of webcam, action cam, dashcam and other footage and stills had been used in successful prosecutions. They refused to accept this. I have the misfortune to live in a country where the police are only interested in finding reasons not to record crimes so that their clear up rate can be boosted by easy pickings. They were of course wrong on the evidence front but the police are like right wing politicians when it comes to truth imo ... ... ... ... strangers to it !!!
Not really one for grassing people up with dash cam footage but christ, how the hell do you give the 308cc driver and the mini such a little fine for nearly causing a death. The head on could have been awful as could the pensioner over a bonnet.
At 1:21 how could an unknown driver be disqualified from driving for 6months? You can fine the registered keeper for not providing information as to who was driving a vehicle at the time of an offence being committed, but you can't ban that person as you have no proof it was them and they will not say who it was. I know it probably was them, but that was a very stupid legal advisor directing a Magistrate.
It is an offence not to disclose the identity of who driving at the time and the registered owner must provide those details within 28 days and it is a serious offence. It falls under the Road Traffic Act 1988 section 172. The penalty for failing to provide driver details is six points and a fine of up to £1,000. This is quite serious considering most minor motoring offences attract a penalty of less than six points. You may not have even been driving yet you could still receive six penalty points for failing to provide the relevant information to the police. So the registered owner would have already had at least 6 points on their licence already and the 6 points for this would have been suffice foe a disqualification.
Drive like a lunatic and almost kill somebody you get points and a small fine. Run a red light you get a bigger fine and disqualified for 6 months. Interesting 🧐
It is an offence not to disclose the identity of who driving at the time and the registered owner must provide those details within 28 days and it is a serious offence. It falls under the Road Traffic Act 1988 section 172. The penalty for failing to provide driver details is six points and a fine of up to £1,000. This is quite serious considering most minor motoring offences attract a penalty of less than six points. You may not have even been driving yet you could still receive six penalty points for failing to provide the relevant information to the police. So the registered owner would have already had at least 6 points on their licence already and the 6 points for this would have been suffice foe a disqualification. The stupid part is if they had identified who the driver was that driver would have got a lesser fine, points and no disqualification.
I love these Police PR videos. It's just a shame that they don't represent the true reality of the police force, which spends most of it's time playing politics, or raising money for its masters.
Please other county police, do this in your counties. The standard of driving has fallen dramatically here in greater Manchester and I’m sure in all other places too.
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Most of these should have been banned shows how weak the courts have become
Good job your extremism isn't in the courts.
It shows how weak legislation is. The courts can only punish according to sentencing guidelines. That bunch of fascists who claim to be a democratic government for the people in Westminster are not at all interested. Law is something they prefer to ignore.
The courts hands are bound by the sentencing rules set by the Government.
No deterrent then is there. No wonder it's like a race track .
You wanna put every driving offence through the court system? FPN is good enough for most of these. But the driving is abysmal. Especially that mini. Wow!!
Those fines are absolutely stunningly stupid!!!! There were at least 3 of them that should've been disqualified, yet they all got fines under 200 💷 pounds 💷. That isn't going to deter a rock!!!
What has Dwayne Johnson got to do with it? You can’t blame The Rock for everything!
Seems strange that drivers who put people's lives in danger driving at high speed get a lesser fine than someone following a van through a red light
Driving on the pavement, behind a car waiting at a junction and almost taking out an elderly person just "careless". How about attempted murder?
... attempted manslaughter. Attempted murder would never be able to be proven.
Nothing careless about it, that was clearly "dangerous driving" which is a much more serious offence.
You need to look at the actual legal definition of what it is you think applies, then you will see it is not correct.
A death is not always a murder or manslaughter. The CPS do not help much by insisting on mis-charging people in order to guarantee a plea bargain and the need for a trial in which the evidence would be flimsy or the person would be found not guilty.
For example, a person defends themselves on a night out after an attack and the other person dies from the injuries caused. That person can not be charged with murder, it would be manslaughter. So the CPS know the jury might find the person not guilty of manslaughter and he will walk free or could agree to say he caused S18 Wounding. If it is in the public interest or someone has an agenda or axe to grind, they will mis-charge with murder and force the person to say they accept manslaughter just to get a conviction. I see mis-charging all the time, it is a waste of public money when CPS decides on cases based on how good they will look for the public and NOT on the actual facts and evidence in the cases.
I do not know whether its due to the last 2 years of lockdown but, myself and others I have talked too seem to agree that people have been driving more dangerous and aggressive lately.
I'd blame the media for posting about people not being able to receive fines and getting off with warnings due to the police not being able to write and hand over tickets due to Covid.
I blame slow drivers
Yes they all gone nuts
That's totally 100% true. I've been a lorry driver for 32 years, seen more dangerous driving this last year than ever before.
It’s not just in the UK. It is terrible everywhere now. People are so frustrated about everything in their lives that they take it out on others whilst behind the wheel. I live in a small town in California. It seems the last two years people use stop signs as a mere suggestion 😏
I've twice fallen foul of other drivers' carelessness, and recklessness, and I support any police action like this. I have no sympathy for anyone who feels the full force of the law for their offences.
What 'action'? That old lady was nearly killed by a maniac and he gets a tiny fine and a couple of points. Does he have to ram her down and kill her before sensible action is taken against these idiots? Do you really think that these paltry 'fines' are gonna change bad behaviour? What a joke these self-aggrandizing cops are. Decades of policing and millions of pounds and the problem gets WQORSE! Pathetic.
So previous action by the Police didn't stop you getting offended by idiots?
So you are happy for there to be no Police on our roads, just a bunch of do gooders with cameras. It is the thin end of the wedge. We will become a nation of snitches playing into the hands of the State. Its ok that the police wont come out to an RTC unless someone is injured but its ok for them to report you for a video?
Full force? Many magistrates and/or judges berate defendants and threaten to impose stiff sentences and then award sentences that are a fraction of the maximum permitted.
Punishments need to be a LOT harsher
You would be surprised, Insurance take a dim view of Careless offences come renewal.
@@cpuuk Don't you have to HAVE insurance before a 'dim view' can be taken? These people don't care about you, your crappy little fines or anyone's 'dim view'. This is just a joke to them and actually, it's a joke for law abiding citizens to have to listen to you lot bleating about what a great job you do when NOTHING changes!
I completely agree. Interesting to note the largest fines were for not providing information. Those fines needed to be at least 10 times larger and driving bans, especially the mini mounting the kerb and nearly taking out an old lady.
@@chriskberks5471 My thoughts exactly. Mondeo gets banned with £800 fine whilst the lunatic in the blus mini gets a slapped wrist. Does not make any sense.
Excellent. So careless and dangerous driving and putting lives at risk gets you 3 points and a hundred quid fine. The same as doing 32mph in a 30mph zone.
Going over the speed limit is driving without care and dangerous while putting lives at risk so yeah makes sense.
32 or 34 or 47, where do you draw the line when left down to individuals interpretation of safe? I know where I draw the line and that's the speed limit, not hard.
A few days ago, my wife received a infringement notice in the mail for speeding.. it was picked up by a speed camera. Due to the fact that, during holiday periods, here in Australia, the fines and demerit points are doubled, she was fined $900, lost 6 of the twelve points and lost her license for three months.
However, on checking the date of the infringement -(after she had paid the fine), she realized that our daughter had borrowed her car on that day.
She went back and told the traffic authority that that was the case.
Their answer?... "If you try to change it now, you will be arrested for lying in the first place and will face three months in jail".
A day or so later, our daughter revealed that she was caught speeding two days before that, in her own car and was fined $900, lost 6 demerit points and her license for three months!
I am now forced to be their chauffeur and I'm not very impressed.
Ur life sounds a lot like mine
Let them go by bus ,train of cyle
You didn't raise your daughter well then, good sir, did ya?
@Advanced Driving moral of the story is don’t get married and have kids.
Public transport or a push bike
THIS IS INCREDIBLE
THIS OPERATION HAS TO BE DONE PERMANENTLY AND IN EVERY PART OF THE UK
THERE ARE MANY MANY DASHCAMS,LETS USE THEM AND GET THESE BAD DANGEROUS PEOPLE OFF THE ROADS
It is - go to your local online page and report a crime - it's been there for years
My local police will not accept anything like this as they're lazy, too lazy to investigate and just can't be bothered doing their jobs properly.
The title says "Dangerous Driving", but none of these offences were charged with that. It's used FAR TOO LITTLE for this kind of driving. Seems not giving information is deemed more serious than endangering others?
The first two got off far too lightly.
The first two look like reckless driving not careless. Lucky to keep their licence.
It's the disparity in punishment meted out by the D&C that shouldn't be tolerated, let alone the dangerous driving. 🤔
The amount of the fines is pathetic. Clearly driving like that IS tolerated.
£100 fine a 3 penalty points for nearly running someone over? That’s hardly a deterrent. These drivers need disqualifying and the law changed to heavily penalise those that risk killing vulnerable road users.
Most of the fines are pretty paltry, hardly a deterrent.
Theres a guy at work who smells of foreign food a lot of the time ,,, and another whos in possession of an offensive wife , can they be reported too ??
Have you not been sacked yet, PC Savage??
@@paulcollyer801 Why do they keep arresting this man ,,, lol , well spotted.
Wearing a loud shirt after the hours of darkness ,,,,
Why do the fines and costs differ so much for the same offense?
depends whether the drivers in question have undermined the courts authority or not by the looks of it. Two of the least dangerous pieces of driving seemed to get by far the heaviest fines and penalty points for not revealing the drivers identity.
I would surmise that, as the Fixed Penalty for all these offences is £100 & 3 points for pleading guilty, these went to court. The court will fine according to your pay scale, and can give higher or lower fines, and can also issue more points than standard if they feel it appropriate
Do they not realise a car is a lethal weapon in the wrong hands.
This video is frightening.
Well done, a force actively doing something about this. It’s needed & required to make things safe, how many accidents could’ve happened, all for the reason of getting there 30 seconds quicker.
No they aren't really doing anything about it , maybe making money on you tube. but the first two clips should have been bans....number two drives on two pavements and .just misses a pedestrian...gets 3pts. tha;ts not a driving mistake ..its being an arsehole. Anyway ...on to clip 3
I love how some of these drivers think that because they haven't been caught by a police officer, if they ignore it then it will go away ! Hahahaha
I wished they had this program in Australia. Some people drive as if the road rules do not apply to them. I also believe the penalties they received for some of the offenses were not high enough.
This is great . I would love to see a channel like this in the South Wales police region to show the effectiveness of Operation Snap here .👍
Break the speed limit accidentally by a few miles an hour on an empty road with a camera and automatically get fined £100 with 3 points.
Drive recklessly, swerving around other vehicles and people, endangering lives, so that other motorists are so concerned they take the time and effort to report it, taking up police and court time, and get fined £100 with 3 points.
I'm not condoning speeding but it seems to me there's something seriously wrong with our judicial system.
It’s time the police did their own job I don’t see them rushing into your place of work to help you out
Just remember that during the next round of public service cutbacks that result in fewer Police being available to deal with more problems spilling out on the streets. You Do realise there have been numerous times Police have had to respond to medical emergencies (not the Police’s job) due to a lack of ambulances? Over many decades, Mental Health services have been cut back, and people in Mental Health Crisis are often now dealt with (compassionately) by Police, as there is no available help for the unfortunate soul.
I'm surprised at the level of low penalty for what looks almost suicidal and totally inconsiderate driving which threatened the lives of others. Having dealt with the families of loved ones killed by idiots like these, I'd throw the book at them till it hurt.
Yep, the blue mini for example. Confiscate the car and crush it i say.
Punishments are not tough enough
To send our snaps do we need to live in or around Devon and Cornwall? Or can we send the snaps if we say lived in london?
I've had a dashcam for many years, but I've no idea how I can upload footage to the police. In fact, on the few occasions where I have submitted evidence, the (Wiltshire) police weren't interested.
The penalties are all over the place. Too much inconsistency. The lenient ones are too lenient.
High powered sports car dangerously overtakes oncoming traffic.
Could have easily killed somebody. £40 fine and 4 points. Car drives slowly through a red traffic light £660 fine and 6 months ban. Do I assume the driver of the sports car was a magistrate or pal of the Chief Constable? May be a member of the funny handshake club.
Should be more videos like this
Some of these fines aren't that much. If I was late for a flight to go on holiday I could be tempted to break a few rules, but luckily i don't fly anymore.
Some of the fines levied for life changing driving if an accident was to happen are lower than nice people get in private car parks for going a few minutes over their time!
How has this operation influenced the number of accidents in your area? As a motorcyclist I'm particularly vulnerable to the sort of driving you show here.
As car drivers we are all at risk from cyclists who try to transfer responsibility for their own safety to everyone else - and those on motorbikes that NEVER stick to speed limit and cause their own accidents and deaths.
Does this go for cycles too? How about these scooters that kids are using? Maybe cycles, scooters,mobility scooters should come with licence plates, so many times I see.dangerous manoeuvres from these people who have no road sense or consideration for other road users. Don’t just go after the cars,vans etc,go after all road users!
Re e-scooters, they’re technically mechanically propelled vehicles and Should have licences & insurance (as per the trials though licences are a sketchy point). Police Could confiscate (seize) the e-scooter and issue a ticket for no insurance; generally speaking though due to the rider most likely not having a helmet giving chase is a touchy subject.
Re getting number plates for bikes, never gonna happen, too complicated and too costly to impliment
Does every force have this facility to report to them?
So the Mondeo owner gets £800 fine and disqualified whilst the lunatic in the blue Mini gets a £250 fine and 6 points. At the very least the driver should have a £1k fine and her car crushed for driving like that. A dangerous menace.
The nexrbase portal is a big failure in hull, as our failing police force never respond to submitted videos.
That's a shame. Humberside Police jumped right on one that I felt compelled to report, about two years ago. The video is available to view here on RUclips.
I must admit, just using the Southampton Millbrook Bypass regularly, I have been grinded up many times by drivers hurtling past and cutting in. I have often wondered why the cameras don't do anything as the way they drive is really dangerous and reckless.
Trained on Xbox?
I use the Millbrook bypass and everything what you said happens every minute of every day of every hour. Its six lanes of wreckless driving that doesn't sleep. It's got to the point where I hate it now. It's the worst road in Southampton. The three lanes each side might aswell be lanes markings for touring car races. And the traffic lights might aswell be grand prix starter lights. I've never known any road to be as bad or come near the recklessness of Millbrook road.
@@1ns4ne1d10t Lol, I know one hour before my driving test, my driving instructor thought it would be a good idea to make me drive along it during near rush hour, this was in the days before the roundabouts had traffic lights... Yes what you have to do is, practice totally ignoring all the wankers around you,
@@chunkymonkey55555 Unfortunately Millbrook Road used to be my daily commute to Hythe and the Waterside for four years. Then after I left and started a new job in Portswood. Just when I thought I kissed goodbye to using that racetrack daily I got lumbered with driving the Van's through there to serve Totton, Ashurst, Cadnam, Lyndhurst. There have been times where it's been so particularly bad along there I've said f**k it and dropped the pedal to the metal and driven like a banshee myself. Sadly everytime I've driven like a banshee on steroids I've been heavily respected by the other traffic.
@@1ns4ne1d10t Lol, that's the amusing thing now though, you can't put your foot down as their is speed cameras :)
3 points for mounting the pavement at speed and narrowly missing an elderly person? Seems a bit lenient to me tbh.
i think half this drivers who drive like that sure have there license taken & put on a banned list for 10+ years & pay a bigger fine more then $1000 in towing, lot, court & etc fees
It's about time that cyclists were made to wear a hi-viz vest with a unique registration number on the back so they can also be prosecuted for their actions. Failure to wear one while cycling on public roads should be an offence.
Did a cyclist cut you up on the motorway ?
@@yangtse55 No but a cyclist has hit me when running a red light and cut me so bad I needed stitches.
@Nehemiah Scudder totaly irrelevant if a bike does less damage would a plane do more damage if it smashed into the ground? dosent mean cars or bicycles shouldn’t be registered just because they both do less damage then a truck or a large van. a bicycle can still kill injure and cause devastation when they hit pedestrians like a lot of children who do get ran over by cyclist who are unidentifiable and unaccounted it’s disgusting
@Nehemiah Scudder well are you afraid that as a cyclist you would no longer be the special little bitches that need protecting? Or you can step up be a real man and share the roads under the same codes and ethics as everybody else
Get a car broke boy
Please, prey tell, how would this be initially enforced? Remember that e-scooters are not legal, and it’s hard enough for Police to even contemplate enforcing that??
The fines aren't big and most of these incidents aren't careless and inconsiderate but reckless and dangerous
Do all police forces have this snap system? It is awesome and people will slowly begin to realise they can't get away with this poor standard. I could send 10 clips a week
The very first example was clearly more than "careless and inconsiderate driving" it was overtly dangerous . . .
This consistent leniency encourages this kind of reckless and dangerous driving . .
That mini got off lightly😮
This is good, but need to quadruple the costs and points given out. Even take the vehicle and cancel licence.
If only America had a system like Op Snap. . .
It's no good fining these people,take the licence away for min 5yrs ,death is forever
only 4 and 3 penalty points!? that was almost a head on collision and death by dangerous driving!
Outright careless and dangerous driving is not a big priority for the courts. Look at the lenient fines and penalties.
You get bigger fines for parking.
What did the last driver do? I know it was a crossing and he should have stopped but he got 6 points.
"Failed to provide information".
I am unaware of the charge of careless and inconsiderate. At least two of these examples seemed to me to be 'Dangerous Driving' and one, endangering life. Am I wrong???
Penalty fines and points far too soft, 2-5 year bans minimum.
The road is a dangerous place at the best of times!
£40 quid fine won’t stop them
Caught and guilty by video. That’s the way it should be everywhere
Give them the cat o nine tails every time too.
Good idea. But....
If the Law doesn't take it seriously these selfish, ignorant drivers won't either.
Driving that endangers others by gross violation of the highway code should be called what it is "dangerous driving" with a compulsory ban of varying length.
Repeat offence?
Double length ban for every offence.
I agree some of those were definitely dangerous rather than careless. But good on Devon and Cornwall for implementing operation snap. Now this needs to be a permanent op countrywide. If people believe there's a chance of getting caught they may think twice.
So good to see those that need punishing, getting fined, thanks to the powers that be.
I like how the reports have been acted on.
Personally, each and everyone should have their licences revoked for life.
Should Be 7 to 14 Day Bans As well as Fine And Points
Unless your name is Katie price
was this information / videos provided from the public dash cams , or police dash cams .
If its the police , well done . If its public , I dread to think of the knock on effects that could result from these postings , how long before someone is spotted on the offenders dash cam and battered to death , this self policing idea does not work far too open to exploitation / blackmail / bribery . This will go wrong.
If you wait until it's on a "police dashcam", those retards will never get caught and will potentially end up hurting someone. The only effect I'm seeing there is some dangerous people getting karma and the fact that they'll probably now think twice before pulling such moves.
Road police is less and less present, the only option left is self-policing.
And it's a really good thing that those public dashcams footages are received in court. I hope more countries will adopt it.
I agree, this is not acceptable. How do we know that people aren't deliberately goading and provoking other drivers into doing something stupid and then filming their reaction in order to get them fined.
It's not the general public's job to act as vigilantes.
And what about bias, will people seek out particular individuals in order to try to catch them doing something wrong? Or what if they happen to film a family member doing something wrong, would they submit that?
Then there is the blackmail issue mentioned by the OP, which is a very good point.
Plus, if this becomes widespread, the Police will reduce the resources they put into policing the roads even more and rely solely on this method.
Completely ridiculous.
@@pjay3028 Yep, better let them hurt or kill someone on the road. I totally agree.
@Nehemiah Scudder that's so not the point here though. People should only be prosecuted based on evidence that has been collected in a fair, reasonable and consistent manner. That's exactly why the police have so many rules and regulations regarding the way they collect evidence and prepare their case for the CPS. And even they often fail to meet the required standards, meaning prosecutions have to be dropped.
With this initiative they're basically ignoring all those standards and using any old video evidence, with no corroborating information, to proceed with prosecutions. It's pathetic.
How would you feel if the police decided to follow you round every time you got in your car, filming everything you did and everywhere you went, ready to pounce on you as soon as you did something wrong?
Yet, with this, if a private individual decided to do that to you, they could. And the police are actually encouraging it!
@Nehemiah Scudder it's a matter of consistency and equality for everyone. Why don't we get rid of the police and just have gangs of vigilantes?
All the protections against police bias grew up over many years because people realised there were significant discrepancies in the way the police were behaving due to significant inconsistencies. If you sweep them away we'll be back to square one and things will just go wrong again.
The problem with attitudes like yours is that you haven't learned from history and you just keep going round and round in circles repeating the same mistakes.
anyone can see the fines and points are way too low... insurance companies should be contacted....two strikes and youre out... short of a ban points should be 6 or 9 and fines nearer 1000+ than 200 quid....until the police actually clamp down you can expect to see these videos till the end of time
Tried that in Inverness the Police are not interested.
Level crossing, you can't tell me that the camera car didn't jump the lights. Did you prosecute him/her
these videos are mental. I wish Police Scotland had a similar scheme.
Exmouth is East Devon not South Devon.
Why did the guy get so punished for the red light offence ? His was the least dangerous.
It's for not showing up or identifying themself as the driver.
That traffic light was border line, we all know they change from green to Amber in a second and amber to ref just as quick. I have been driving for 60 years and an advanced driver, the time on the lights needs looking into. I have written to the Government but they do not reply.
@@mickp222 Hi Michael,
In the UK, it's 3 seconds, plus or minus 0.25 seconds.
See The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 Schedule 14 Part 1 Paragraph 4 sections 3 and 4.
I couldn't be bothered to find out what it was before. Probably the same?
@@mickp222 if you mean the silver car following the lorry then that was not borderline. They were moving slowly and The light was red before the car reached the line. They could have stopped easily which means either they didn't look at the lights or didn't care about the lights. Either way caught bang to rights.
Absolutely pathetic fines
The courts are too soft.
Well done 👏 ✔
I am an ex NHS Professional .
I’m a car driver , motorcyclist , cyclist and pedestrian.
Does anyone think that these tiny slap on the wrists deter dangerous drivers .
Take seatbelts out and replace with 12 inch blade !!
When did dangerous become inconsiderate?
Seems to be no consistency with fines and penalties. Maybe we don't have full story.
Just take their licence away, it’s not a right it’s a privilege to have one.
You don’t accidentally drive that badly. All deliberate and should have had bigger penalties.
0.47 I think that mini should have been disqualified as it nearly rammed the lady in red.
All police forces should do a similar operation
its just a pity other police forces were as pro active about bad driving as you guys. Im on the road every day & the driving offences I see are horrific
Is their an equivalent for the West of Scotland for uploading videos of dangerous driving?
What do the the zigzag lane markings shown in one of the videos mean? We don't have anything like that in the U.S.
The U.S. is beginning to use roundabouts, but there are only two of them within 20 miles of my home. They are more dangerous here at the moment because otherwise good drivers here may come upon one and not only have they never used one some have never even known that such things existed... and hilarity ensues. Expensive and terrifying hilarity.
in simple terms... the zigzag lines at pedestrian crossings are supposed to provide a safe zone around the crossing... eg you can't park there as it restricts view. it should be punished with 3 points on your licence. 12 points is supposed to mean an automatic ban, but some lawyers have successfully argued that the driver needs their licence for work... which in itself is ridiculous... if you NEED your licences then not driving like a knob will stop you from losing it.
RCZ, Mini and Astra van drivers deserved to lose there license for minimum 12 months. Both red light jumpers 6 months in prison.
Good idea
Hardly a punishment for nearly taking out an oncoming car and killing the driver for fk sake shocked at the low fine should of been a lot more and 6 points for that at least, but they’d ban you for driving a ton down at empty motorway at 11 o’clock at night though with a hefty fine no doubt
how can you tell if video footage has been tampered with ? i do a fair bit of editing and i could recreate footage to look worse than it is, then render it as a single video ! using the public's ' dash cam footage' is extremely risky.
If you are an expert editor then indicate the edited sections that you have seen in the videos.
He is not saying that THIS video is altered. He is suggesting that dashcam videos in general could be edited by nefarious scoundrels
It’s high time that cyclists are banned of the road!
Ok, so lets just close the roads cos every class of road user has it’s less than desirable set! Cyclists are far from the worst, imho, I I drive for a living
you are so right,cyclist are a pain in the backside.
It was not so long back that I sat in a community forum where Warwickshire police stated categorically that dashcam and similar evidence would only be regarded as heresay. As a lawyer I suggested that they were wrong and that in the UK at that time plenty of webcam, action cam, dashcam and other footage and stills had been used in successful prosecutions. They refused to accept this.
I have the misfortune to live in a country where the police are only interested in finding reasons not to record crimes so that their clear up rate can be boosted by easy pickings.
They were of course wrong on the evidence front but the police are like right wing politicians when it comes to truth imo ...
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... strangers to it !!!
If the police spent time locking up lawyers, the world would be a nicer place.
Not really one for grassing people up with dash cam footage but christ, how the hell do you give the 308cc driver and the mini such a little fine for nearly causing a death. The head on could have been awful as could the pensioner over a bonnet.
@ 20sec..... Only 40 buck???
At 1:21 how could an unknown driver be disqualified from driving for 6months?
You can fine the registered keeper for not providing information as to who was driving a vehicle at the time of an offence being committed, but you can't ban that person as you have no proof it was them and they will not say who it was. I know it probably was them, but that was a very stupid legal advisor directing a Magistrate.
It is an offence not to disclose the identity of who driving at the time and the registered owner must provide those details within 28 days and it is a serious offence. It falls under the Road Traffic Act 1988 section 172.
The penalty for failing to provide driver details is six points and a fine of up to £1,000. This is quite serious considering most minor motoring offences attract a penalty of less than six points. You may not have even been driving yet you could still receive six penalty points for failing to provide the relevant information to the police. So the registered owner would have already had at least 6 points on their licence already and the 6 points for this would have been suffice foe a disqualification.
Unless your called Katie price you can do as ye like and nowt happens !!!!!!!
Fkn great snap the cyclists 🚴♂️ 👌
Drive like a lunatic and almost kill somebody you get points and a small fine. Run a red light you get a bigger fine and disqualified for 6 months. Interesting 🧐
It is an offence not to disclose the identity of who driving at the time and the registered owner must provide those details within 28 days and it is a serious offence. It falls under the Road Traffic Act 1988 section 172.
The penalty for failing to provide driver details is six points and a fine of up to £1,000. This is quite serious considering most minor motoring offences attract a penalty of less than six points. You may not have even been driving yet you could still receive six penalty points for failing to provide the relevant information to the police. So the registered owner would have already had at least 6 points on their licence already and the 6 points for this would have been suffice foe a disqualification.
The stupid part is if they had identified who the driver was that driver would have got a lesser fine, points and no disqualification.
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I love these Police PR videos. It's just a shame that they don't represent the true reality of the police force, which spends most of it's time playing politics, or raising money for its masters.
Please other county police, do this in your counties. The standard of driving has fallen dramatically here in greater Manchester and I’m sure in all other places too.
Absolutely mad in Birmingham, worse than a race track.