What is staggering is the complete inconsistency of the punishment. That orange BMW overtaking on double whites, and almost hitting an oncoming car deserved way more than a course.
04:15 they both need a fine. If you see someone being a **** just slow and let them join. By intentionally speeding up and not letting them in you're committing a reckless driving offence yourself and escalating an already dangerous situation.
I disagree. There's a whacking gap in front of the submitter's vehicle and they're travelling at a constant speed. The slip road continues for ages and so they probs expected the offender to speed up and go for that gap. I also would have.
Same with 4:39 cammer too close to the white car, that is why there is no room for the driver pushing in. White car driver is tailgating the one in front too. Recipe for a multi car shunt right there.
3:39 I don't get how these people get away with such light sentences. £200 and 5 points..? I've been banned before for going a bit quick on an empty dual carriageway. This clown nearly killed someone and they got 5 points?! That's a joke... I need a better lawyer.
Can someone explain at 2.45 why he got disqualified? Doesn’t seem any worse than the other 3 point £100 fines? Someone explain what was worse? Or if there’s something else not shown in the video
The strap line is that Dangerous driving will not be tolerated. Every single one of these was prosecuted for careless driving. What exactly do the drivers have to do to be prosecuted for dangerous driving? I would consider crossing double white lanes, overtaking, and driving towards oncoming traffic and barely missing them would qualify. Come on, I am genuinely interested. Why do you go for the lesser charge?
Anybody considered the fact that Cam footage can be very deceptive in terms of perspective and distance? Also the potential for a cammer to bully another road user until they retaliate then submit the edited footage. The victim will then be punished for their retaliation whilst the instigator gets away Scott free.(I AM NOT CONDONING RETALIATORY DRIVING) Simply making a point. It can be difficult to correctly and fairly enforce traffic law in person. To do it remotely seems completely unfeasible. However it is completely feasible that some idiots will make a point of doing exactly this(thus causing more incidents of dangerous driving) There is no substitute for police presence and hands on policing of our roads. Though like smart motorways it's a good revenue booster and of course that's what really matters isn't it?
people who retaliate are more dangerous than people who instigate. Driving with a clear head is what is required in the uk and if you can't you shouldn't have your licence.
4:17 While there maybe nothing in the Highway code mentioning it, I was told when learning to drive, back in prehistoric times, that (if safe to do so) it's a courtesy to move over a lane to allow the merging car to do so safely. Basic good manners.
Some of these fines are much more than a burglar on benefits would get for breaking-in and robbing someone's entire livelihood, and that's only if you do the Police's job for them by collecting evidence!
As a traffic cop here in D&C, we also feel your pain. We really struggle to get dangerous driving prosecuted. I had a job last year where a driver performed a dangerous overtake where there was insufficient space to do so, left 45m of skid marks on the wrong side of the road before hitting a vehilce head on. Eleven witnesses, all saying it was dangerous, and an admission to dangerous driving in interview. He was charged with dangerous driving, but pleaded not guilty on the day knowing full well that the CPS would accept his plea to due care, rather than take it to trial. Which they duly did. It drives us mad, just as much as it does you, believe me.
For those thinking fines and points are too low - Good news is that points on license in USA will often result in large increases in insurance costs (sometimes doubling them)
I've seen some of these clips on other dashcam compilations; it's good and instructive to see them here with the penalties applied. I hope you're as assiduous in pursuing cyclists.
@@QuentinStephens So how any near misses? Compared to say that from motorists? As an advanced driver and a keen cyclist with 40 years on the road (only 30 years driving), I can tell you that the threat from motorists is thousands of times more. Your bias is obvious and frankly ignorant of the facts, the data from the government proves that people on bikes actually kill and be at fault LESS than pedestrians! The 2019 report on cycling safety stated this by looking at court reports over a 5 year period. FOUR pedestrians died in a collision with an at fault cyclist, pedestrians caused their own deaths when colliding with cyclists 6 times, and there are other pedestrian deaths caused by pedestrians harming others. Then we get to motorists who kill around 1700 people every year and upwards to 1800. But keep focusing on the group that does the least amount of harm!
@Graham Cook Nope, how about insurance for the million or so that drive and don't have it. Also you get free 3rd party insurance through your home insurance, most club cyclists get theat free when they jpoin the club and other cyclin g orgs give it away free. Why is it free, because the risks compared to motorists is tiny. It's not feasible and would require insurance for oeds as they do more harm Typical ignorant motorists state cyclists need licence plates and insurance.
It's optional, I believe. The training courses cost and take a day of your time when you could be earning and are arguably more effective at curbing drivers behaviour.
Some of these incidents are a joke, the car entering from a slip road onto the dual carriageway, what you dont know is that the grass who made the film maybe the type of person that deliberately refuses to give way even if he can, is it illegal to drive past a damned bike now, these parasites on bikes are a menace on the roads, they think they own them, bikes should give way to cars, not the other way round, as should the idiot drivers who want to drive out on country roads at 30mph holding up others who actually have to get somewhere for a reason.
If you get caught doing 45mph in a 30 zone, your punishment will be more severe if you already have 9 points on your licence than it would be if you have a clean licence with no previous convictions.
Some will plead guilty, and receive a lesser penalty as a result. Some might have a history of traffic offences, some might not have any insight as to how their driving affects others. A multitude of things feeds into sentencing, not just the offence.
Each is punished depending on the exact circumstances, which have not been included, and whether they pleaded guilty, also not included, but can be inferred from those that ended up on Driver Training Courses that these drivers admitted the offence.
The Range Rover mounting the hedgerow was lucky there were no drainage ditches there. He’s have dug in and flipped over. Also lucky that nobody was walking there. I’d imagine he was clenched in the car all the way home 😆
2:48 seems harsh to me. Yes, he crossed double solid white lines. But he didn't endanger any other road user, unless I'm missing something. Maybe a caution would have sufficed.
There should be a method to apply this to inconsiderate cyclists too. Those that skip red lights. Those that jump onto the pavement to skip traffic lights. Those that use their phones while riding or ride with no hands on the bars.
How many of these have ended with other parties being harmed? How about pedestrians walking out in front of a car or a cyclist, with headphones on or looking at their phones, do they get points and charged too, why not? What about drivers hwo drive onto the pavement, charge them with careless/dangerous and a hefty fine, given that many are killed when motons mount the kerb and drive onto the pavement itself, surely a minimum 6 points and £500 fine for driving on the pavement right? I think you'll find that by the standards set by police, cycling through a red light is not careless riding and the millions of drivers that do this every day and get away with it even when they cause a colision just puts your comment into perspective. Also riding whilst using a phone isn't careless in and of itself, that only applies to those using killing machines. But crack on with your anti cycling narrative.
@@fastjaydub Thousands of people riding bikes have been fined/punished AND some imprisoned for their infractions. The fact so few people on bikes harm others or do damage is why insurance and licence/ID marks are not required.
@@ynotnilknarf39 I've spent years commuting through London off and on. And seen some horrendous collisions involving wreckless cyclist's. Jumping red lights , not stopping at pedestrian crossing when small children and elderly people have been hit. I get London may have an amplified issue though.
02:32 That offending driver got a ban for his dangerous driving, but other drivers in this series of clips did their best to run cyclists off the road and all they get is a 'Driver Instruction Course'. Cyclists need more protection. Three points ought to do it.
I was going to send one in of a dangerous white Citroen doing suicidal overtakes on the A395. He passed me dangerously, then went for an overtake past a tanker, saw oncoming headlights immediately, slammed on his brakes and hazard lights, and attempted to jump back into the gap he'd just left, nearly causing a pileup. Sadly, my dashcam is rubbish - a Garmin - and is not clear enough to see his registration to issue a NoIP.
I am not legally trained but in my judgment many of those examples of careless driving would be better described as dangerous driving, and worthy of a more serious penalty.
@4.30: Who got the punishment here? The vehicle joining was at speed and visible by the camera and therefore ahead, the vehicle on the carriageway should have yielded. Alternatively the vehicle joining the carriageway should have joined to the rear of the car already on the carriageway. Answers anyone?
4:18 The cammer should go on a driver training course too. They should have read the situation and reduced speed to reduce risk, rather than maintaining speed and driving into risk.
Dangerous driving IS tolerated in Devon and Cornwall with 'slap on the wrist' paltry fines, a few points on the licence, or maybe just driver training ...depending on how the judge's weekend went, traffic laws are joke!.
The last incident seems pretty innocuous to me. Ok, it was tight, but the driver was at least signalling their intent, and didn't really cause the filmer to brake. Naughty, yes, impatient, yes, but not dangerous or even inconsiderate.
Yeah, it's 'Democratised policing'. Like a Stasi state, but much cheaper and more entertaining - definitely a win win for the police or what police we have left, if doing their job for them really is a long term win.
@@andrewthomas2406 I agree (Belatedly!) that you shouldn't snitch on other drivers. Unless they are being completely stupid and dangerous. I was just showing contempt for our wonderful _boys in blue._ 8-))...
I see this daily, unfortunately my local police will not prosecute for ANY of those offences as they REFUSE to accept camera footage as a report of any offence. On twitter a few years ago I posted a 4x4 going through red lights as pedestrians were on a crossing, they said they wouldn't be able to use car camera footage that is time and date stamped as evidence! More like they couldn't be bothered and still can't be when compared to how well other Areas approach this. They would not even question a man that was about 2ft off my bumper as he had poor eyesight as it turned out his father in law was a local police officer and his sister in law was a WPC. Unbelievable.
There should be recourse to prosecute cyclists who ride like twats , 3 in a wide line or in the middle of the road , purposely holding vehicle traffic back , or not using the bike lanes when available . I have many hours of dashcam footage of this , but a shame bikes don't have plates
Every police force should have this service. I have sent some stupid driving into Cheshire Police before and two drivers were taken to court, but it takes time to fill in their required statements when the video clearly speaks for itself.
Had a holiday (using a car) in Cornwall and never seen so much dangerous driving and speeding On the third day we decided to plan traveling time in off peak hours ,as before this time ,it was just relentless white vans screaming around the lanes and filling the rear view mirror. Vans coming the other way just could not stay correctly positioned on the road and constantly cut over the centre on bends. No need for this local "get of me land" aggressive driving. Will never holiday in the SW of England until this plague of self entitlement and aggression is under control.
A couple of hundred quid fine plus costs and three points for careless and inconsiderate driving. Park up out side an Amazon depot you will make a fortune and ban the entire fleet before 9 am.
Who? The cammer was in a line passing the middle lane, as was the white car in front. Beyond that it's unclear, but it's impossible to tell in such a short clip if people are passing or not. The fact there is only one car in lane 1 is a bit suspect, more likely what happens is one or two cars go into lane 2 to overtake a slow vehicle in lane 1, that pair only go 70, probably even 65..., then the rest of the motorway has to go into lane 3 to slowly pass with a 5mph difference. See it all the time on the M18/M1, You can be doing the speed limit, 65 or 60 even in lane 2, holding back to not undertake cars all bumper to bumper in lane 3 all because some twat right at the front is doing 70.1mph overtaking a car doing 69.9mph. Everyone bailing into lane 3 to pass then spreads out all the cars in lane 3 and slows down the back of the queue. I've taken to the approach that if the lane to my right is going below the speed limit, I will mostly match speed, but then slowly undertake all the fools piled behind each other until I catch whatever is ahead in my lane. I'm not undertaking, I'm just travelling in my lane at at the speed limit... IDK what those other fools are up to diving slowly in lane 3.
How about having more po lice on the roads, it has only got like this because there is none about, I can drive all week without seeing one po lice anywhere.
I have been a lorry driver for nearly 43 years and have seen plain car traffic police do things to encourage motorists to do dangerous things as in overtake sports cars as if they want a race them and when the sports car take on the challenge they are pulled over, I've also watched them try to slow lorries down before a hill forcing the lorry driver to overtake them to keep thier speed up to prevent a lot of changing down and causing a lot of slow tail backs behind, even an ordenary policeman don't like traffic officers they say they think they are the elite and perfect drivers , yes they are trained to a high standard and witness some horrific scenes, but it's all done by procedure, police officers need respect or society breaks down, BUT respect needs to be earned.
Audi drivers are some of the biggest clowns on the road. It’s like they know they have to have a really bad standard of driving and everyone else should know it too. The fines aren’t big enough, the bans aren’t long enough.
Most of these "careless" driving cases are very much deliberate, and should be charged as "reckless or dangerous", for which much greater penalties can be applied. No good stating at the end of the video that "dangerous driving will not be tolerated" You, Devon and Cornwall Police, are very evidently tolerating it, by not charging motorists with that offence. Shameful.
We have police in Australia booking people based on dashcam footage. The ruling here is that the registered owner get's the fine. They can elect another person as being the driver at the time of the incident but have to sign a statutory declaration.
Your clips are a daily and normal standard of driving in New Zealand, but no police to enforce basic driving standards. Dash cams and enforcement follow up needs to happen here. No wonder NZ has the world's highest road kill pro rata for a 1st eorld country
How? Please go and take your test again if you think the cammer was at fault! He had cars coming up to his right so he stayed in his lane, the person joining the carriageway should have slowed down and merged behind him. common sense there...
That slip lane at Buckfastleigh is pretty long and has great visibility, I used to use it several times a day. There was no excuse for him to force himself out like that. Plenty of room to either accelerate to get safely infront or back off to merge behind.
Why do you have these nonsense training courses in England and Wales??No such thing exists in Scotland, it’s straight to points and a fine. How is it decided if you get a course and not points and a fine?
All those cyclists should pay road tax and insurance and move over. Minority and backward thinking no one would ever get deliveries or to work if you need a full lane to over take a cyclist
@@smiffy925 really utter tosh. i passed my test in 1997 every road tax reminder i still have for my old first car long scraped like most. then later in years just cause they rename it road fund licence doesn't change the fact its a TAX still pedantic tool. bet your a Lycra blight on uk roads with a comment like that.
@@ededdynova No it is not. Google road tax and you will see. The Road fund was abolished in 1937, this is a fact. Roads are funded by local a d general taxation. VED does not directly pay for roads. These are all facts.
I hate Audi drivers as much as the rest but the white soft top got shafted big time ! What do the police use to decide the fine and points 🤔 wheel of fortune 🤦🏾
A lot of other county police forces have websites where you can post dash cam footage of dangerous driving. I believe Yorkshire police have a particularly popular one.
So you would not consider it sad and pathetic to be the victim of an RTA at the hands of one of these dangerous drivers? I suggest it is you who are sad and pathetic.
Idiot. Try the speed of the passing CAR that spooked the horse. Could have thrown the rider off into the path of the 2nd vehicle which also passed at speed.
@@chipofftheoldblock1109 1. The horse was not spooked. 2 Gave the horse a wide birth. 3 Why was the 2nd car not shown and prosecuted. 4 What was the speed of the car and what is the speed of a car to be to overtake a horse?(Idiot for brains)
@@raydaley1535 15-20mph maximum speed and should be completely in opposite lane. On a narrower road even slower or wait for a safe space to pass. Typical moronic comment fromsomeone who shouldn't be allowed a wheelbarrow on the road
Speed of the overtake. Can spook a horse. Glad those idiots were caught. New legal requirement just coming into force, to overtake a horse at less than 10mph because of idiots like that driver. Shame you could not notice the issue.
In the clip of the 2 cyclists in Gorrington, I hope you prosecuted the 'camera' cyclist for tailgating the bike in front. That was far more dangerous than the 'close pass'. There's no brakelights on a bike to warn of a stop, and the lead cyclist may have had to swerve to avoid a pothole or object in the road that the second cyclist could not have seen because they were unsighted by slipstreaming the bike in front.
90% of those London cyclist videos, happen all the time in London. Its standard practice and completely normal here. I've seen police vehicles, (not on response), and driving instructors get that close to cyclists. Some of the driving displayed but the car drivers in this video is very dangerous, though, and they deserve the penalties that they get, in most of the clips
I'm just wondering if, Grant Shapps gets his way, and registration numbers on pedal cycles ever becomes law, will we be seeing careless and inconsiderate riding offences charged against cyclists? At present, cyclists enjoy an evident immunity to prosecution because they are not identifiable, yet they are by far, numerically at least, the greater proportion of rule breakers. Yes, the offences may seem minor, even petty, but ignoring red lights is just as lethal whether it's a bicycle or a motor vehicle, likewise 'bobbing and weaving' in and out of other traffic, incorrect use of pedestrian crossings, defective vehicles, riding without lights after dark, failing to signal where it would be of assistance to other road users, riding on a pedestrian way, riding the wrong way in a one way street, and the list goes on......... If registration becomes law for bicycles, I for one will be submitting video of such offences - lots of them, I do not doubt! Just like law abiding motorists, law abiding cyclists will have nothing to fear!
Really looking forward to the day when all cyclists have to ware a hiviz vest with an ID reg number allocated to the individual not the bike. They should also have to have 3rd party insurance to cover other road users and this would definitely reduce the amount of cyclists riding dangerously. But we all know this will never happen 🤔🤣
Just how many people do cyclists kill each year? Maybe one (one too many). How many people do motorists kill each year? Around five hundred with tens of thousands injured. Yes let's regulate cyclists and reduce deaths and injuries on the road.....
Encouraging people to snitch on everyone else, that’s not going to end well. If I was a bad person and was charged, I’d demand the footage provider be identified, and then they may regret giving plod their footage far more than the slightly close overtake of their dopey pushbike
Are you seriously condoning the type of driving shown in this video? Really? One can only conclude that you are a dangerous, inconsiderate and selfish driver.
@@paulmiller7671 I certainly am, you better hope you never find yourself in the way when I’m around or I’ll be teaching you a lesson in how to drive properly and effectively
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What is staggering is the complete inconsistency of the punishment. That orange BMW overtaking on double whites, and almost hitting an oncoming car deserved way more than a course.
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Exactly there is on consistency and some very minor offences getting way more punishment than some that could potentially be fatal.
Excellent. Need to start a campaign to catch people that tailgate. It goes on non stop and they pose grave danger to innocent motorists
I’ve found that the worst tailgating is by mini drivers (usually blonde women - no, I’m not joking).
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this shows up the great difference in penalties for the same offence in various areas.
The severity of the punishment will partly depend on previous convictions and the number of points that the driver has on their licence.
All of those clips were dangerous, frustrating thing is the penalties. No consistency
It's good to see fines,costs and points being given rather than just driving courses .
04:15 they both need a fine. If you see someone being a **** just slow and let them join. By intentionally speeding up and not letting them in you're committing a reckless driving offence yourself and escalating an already dangerous situation.
you have to give way at a slip road though, plus the person had tons of slip road left where they could just slot behind them.
I disagree. There's a whacking gap in front of the submitter's vehicle and they're travelling at a constant speed. The slip road continues for ages and so they probs expected the offender to speed up and go for that gap. I also would have.
Same with 4:39 cammer too close to the white car, that is why there is no room for the driver pushing in. White car driver is tailgating the one in front too. Recipe for a multi car shunt right there.
The cammer is sat in their blind spot..... look at the angle of the mirror
I wish they would do this in all areas too many getting away with things well done guys
3:39 I don't get how these people get away with such light sentences. £200 and 5 points..?
I've been banned before for going a bit quick on an empty dual carriageway. This clown nearly killed someone and they got 5 points?! That's a joke...
I need a better lawyer.
You need to slow down!
@@craigrothwell6144 I'm on the sofa...
For "a bit quick" read "making an honest attempt at the land speed record"😂
@@raithrover1976 They got me at 125.
I told them I was identifying as a train but they weren't buying it. They were different times back then.
You were an intercity 125?
Inconsistent penalties is very evident. You need to get that sorted.
West Midlands Police do nothing even when you report people swapping number plates for a totally different number
3:54, which driver got the fine?
Can someone explain at 2.45 why he got disqualified? Doesn’t seem any worse than the other 3 point £100 fines? Someone explain what was worse? Or if there’s something else not shown in the video
Totting up after previous offences and points.
@@ronnewsam6129 oh right thanks
4:16 the cammer could have eased back and turned that into a non-incident.
Please loose the really annoying music - unnecessary!
As others here have said, it would be good if this was an ongoing scheme in all parts of the UK given that so many people have a dash cam now.
What a bunch of grasses we are becoming.
Thank you for your hard work!
1:03 That guy getting 9 penalty points is pretty screwed, that many points on your license is a 174% increase in insurance on average!!!
How some of these nutters only got 3 points is beyond me.
The strap line is that Dangerous driving will not be tolerated. Every single one of these was prosecuted for careless driving. What exactly do the drivers have to do to be prosecuted for dangerous driving? I would consider crossing double white lanes, overtaking, and driving towards oncoming traffic and barely missing them would qualify. Come on, I am genuinely interested. Why do you go for the lesser charge?
Highlights the danger of driving. Great work dealing with these idiots.
Anybody considered the fact that Cam footage can be very deceptive in terms of perspective and distance? Also the potential for a cammer to bully another road user until they retaliate then submit the edited footage. The victim will then be punished for their retaliation whilst the instigator gets away Scott free.(I AM NOT CONDONING RETALIATORY DRIVING) Simply making a point. It can be difficult to correctly and fairly enforce traffic law in person. To do it remotely seems completely unfeasible. However it is completely feasible that some idiots will make a point of doing exactly this(thus causing more incidents of dangerous driving) There is no substitute for police presence and hands on policing of our roads. Though like smart motorways it's a good revenue booster and of course that's what really matters isn't it?
people who retaliate are more dangerous than people who instigate. Driving with a clear head is what is required in the uk and if you can't you shouldn't have your licence.
@@cornishalps9870 What a stupid ridiculous comment.
4:17 While there maybe nothing in the Highway code mentioning it, I was told when learning to drive, back in prehistoric times, that (if safe to do so) it's a courtesy to move over a lane to allow the merging car to do so safely. Basic good manners.
Some of these fines are much more than a burglar on benefits would get for breaking-in and robbing someone's entire livelihood, and that's only if you do the Police's job for them by collecting evidence!
Yes but burglars don’t decapitate a family of four on the A38 on Christmas eve xx
So, the wilfully reckless driving we see in many of these examples is only considered " careless and inconsiderate ", - really ?
because those that write the laws dont want to be stung by them hence low penaltys for driving offences
As a traffic cop here in D&C, we also feel your pain. We really struggle to get dangerous driving prosecuted. I had a job last year where a driver performed a dangerous overtake where there was insufficient space to do so, left 45m of skid marks on the wrong side of the road before hitting a vehilce head on. Eleven witnesses, all saying it was dangerous, and an admission to dangerous driving in interview. He was charged with dangerous driving, but pleaded not guilty on the day knowing full well that the CPS would accept his plea to due care, rather than take it to trial. Which they duly did. It drives us mad, just as much as it does you, believe me.
Some of those involving cyclists were really not worthy of fine while some really bad ones went with superlight fine.
That 'Helston' driver should have been disqualified for that stunt.
Apparently there was no dangerous driving convictions or did I misread the captions ?
For those thinking fines and points are too low - Good news is that points on license in USA will often result in large increases in insurance costs (sometimes doubling them)
I've seen some of these clips on other dashcam compilations; it's good and instructive to see them here with the penalties applied. I hope you're as assiduous in pursuing cyclists.
Why; do cyclists kill or injure many people?
@@johnrussell5245 As a pedestrian I've had several near-misses.
@Graham Cook How difficult would it be to mandate license plates on bicycles?
@@QuentinStephens So how any near misses? Compared to say that from motorists? As an advanced driver and a keen cyclist with 40 years on the road (only 30 years driving), I can tell you that the threat from motorists is thousands of times more.
Your bias is obvious and frankly ignorant of the facts, the data from the government proves that people on bikes actually kill and be at fault LESS than pedestrians! The 2019 report on cycling safety stated this by looking at court reports over a 5 year period. FOUR pedestrians died in a collision with an at fault cyclist, pedestrians caused their own deaths when colliding with cyclists 6 times, and there are other pedestrian deaths caused by pedestrians harming others. Then we get to motorists who kill around 1700 people every year and upwards to 1800.
But keep focusing on the group that does the least amount of harm!
@Graham Cook Nope, how about insurance for the million or so that drive and don't have it. Also you get free 3rd party insurance through your home insurance, most club cyclists get theat free when they jpoin the club and other cyclin g orgs give it away free. Why is it free, because the risks compared to motorists is tiny. It's not feasible and would require insurance for oeds as they do more harm
Typical ignorant motorists state cyclists need licence plates and insurance.
do horse-riders make a point of only riding on national speed limit roads?
The reason for the inconsistency depends on whether the judge got his leg over the night before
How inconsistent are these punishments. Drivers training or 3 points for the same offense
It's optional, I believe. The training courses cost and take a day of your time when you could be earning and are arguably more effective at curbing drivers behaviour.
You can only do a drivers training course once every 3 years. So if these people are 2nd time offenders, they have no options but to take the points.
I’m sure that’s just due to the offender’s previous history, they won’t offer courses to recidivist offenders.
As per usual, inconsistent penalties awarded.
it's usually done on how fast the perpetrator responds to the court and the circumstances around them as no two incidents are the same.
And the perpetrator driving record. The ones that got banned probably had 9 points on their licences already.
Some of these incidents are a joke, the car entering from a slip road onto the dual carriageway, what you dont know is that the grass who made the film maybe the type of person that deliberately refuses to give way even if he can, is it illegal to drive past a damned bike now, these parasites on bikes are a menace on the roads, they think they own them, bikes should give way to cars, not the other way round, as should the idiot drivers who want to drive out on country roads at 30mph holding up others who actually have to get somewhere for a reason.
Brake-checking on a motorway should get a lengthy ban. That's bloody lethal.
What is very obvious from this, apart from the poor driving, is the lack off consistency regarding penalties. ????
If you get caught doing 45mph in a 30 zone, your punishment will be more severe if you already have 9 points on your licence than it would be if you have a clean licence with no previous convictions.
Interesting but some of these very similar looking offences seem to have very different penalties applied!
5 points for coming with a couple of feet of murdering someone, while crossing a solid line. "Inconsiderate".
Some will plead guilty, and receive a lesser penalty as a result. Some might have a history of traffic offences, some might not have any insight as to how their driving affects others. A multitude of things feeds into sentencing, not just the offence.
@@tomwebb3081 Good point!
Each is punished depending on the exact circumstances, which have not been included, and whether they pleaded guilty, also not included, but can be inferred from those that ended up on Driver Training Courses that these drivers admitted the offence.
Some probably already have points, and where disqualified, it's a totting up process
The Range Rover mounting the hedgerow was lucky there were no drainage ditches there. He’s have dug in and flipped over. Also lucky that nobody was walking there.
I’d imagine he was clenched in the car all the way home 😆
2:48 seems harsh to me. Yes, he crossed double solid white lines. But he didn't endanger any other road user, unless I'm missing something. Maybe a caution would have sufficed.
03:00 THREE cars zoomed zoomed past that horse at speed, yet only one gets clobbered.
As the general public are now doing a lot of ‘police’ work, maybe the courts should hand the footage owner a portion of the fine?
There should be a method to apply this to inconsiderate cyclists too. Those that skip red lights. Those that jump onto the pavement to skip traffic lights. Those that use their phones while riding or ride with no hands on the bars.
How many of these have ended with other parties being harmed? How about pedestrians walking out in front of a car or a cyclist, with headphones on or looking at their phones, do they get points and charged too, why not? What about drivers hwo drive onto the pavement, charge them with careless/dangerous and a hefty fine, given that many are killed when motons mount the kerb and drive onto the pavement itself, surely a minimum 6 points and £500 fine for driving on the pavement right?
I think you'll find that by the standards set by police, cycling through a red light is not careless riding and the millions of drivers that do this every day and get away with it even when they cause a colision just puts your comment into perspective. Also riding whilst using a phone isn't careless in and of itself, that only applies to those using killing machines.
But crack on with your anti cycling narrative.
How do you identify them?
@@fastjaydub Thousands of people riding bikes have been fined/punished AND some imprisoned for their infractions. The fact so few people on bikes harm others or do damage is why insurance and licence/ID marks are not required.
@@ynotnilknarf39 I've spent years commuting through London off and on. And seen some horrendous collisions involving wreckless cyclist's. Jumping red lights , not stopping at pedestrian crossing when small children and elderly people have been hit. I get London may have an amplified issue though.
@@fastjaydub If the cyclist is wreckless, what's the problem?
02:32 That offending driver got a ban for his dangerous driving, but other drivers in this series of clips did their best to run cyclists off the road and all they get is a 'Driver Instruction Course'.
Cyclists need more protection. Three points ought to do it.
I'm not a cyclist, but I agree.
I was going to send one in of a dangerous white Citroen doing suicidal overtakes on the A395. He passed me dangerously, then went for an overtake past a tanker, saw oncoming headlights immediately, slammed on his brakes and hazard lights, and attempted to jump back into the gap he'd just left, nearly causing a pileup. Sadly, my dashcam is rubbish - a Garmin - and is not clear enough to see his registration to issue a NoIP.
I am not legally trained but in my judgment many of those examples of careless driving would be better described as dangerous driving, and worthy of a more serious penalty.
@4.30: Who got the punishment here? The vehicle joining was at speed and visible by the camera and therefore ahead, the vehicle on the carriageway should have yielded. Alternatively the vehicle joining the carriageway should have joined to the rear of the car already on the carriageway. Answers anyone?
4:18 The cammer should go on a driver training course too. They should have read the situation and reduced speed to reduce risk, rather than maintaining speed and driving into risk.
Magistrates have a range of fines.Don't expect them to waist too much time on equal sentencing perfection.
Dangerous driving IS tolerated in Devon and Cornwall with 'slap on the wrist' paltry fines, a few points on the licence, or maybe just driver training ...depending on how the judge's weekend went, traffic laws are joke!.
The last incident seems pretty innocuous to me. Ok, it was tight, but the driver was at least signalling their intent, and didn't really cause the filmer to brake. Naughty, yes, impatient, yes, but not dangerous or even inconsiderate.
Everyone's a traffic cop 👮♂️ ...
They have to be because the police are more interested in arresting some old couple for having a coffee on a park bench.
@@thezanzibarbarian5729 we should not be snitching on our fellow motorist though .
Yeah, it's 'Democratised policing'. Like a Stasi state, but much cheaper and more entertaining - definitely a win win for the police or what police we have left, if doing their job for them really is a long term win.
@@andrewthomas2406 I agree (Belatedly!) that you shouldn't snitch on other drivers. Unless they are being completely stupid and dangerous.
I was just showing contempt for our wonderful _boys in blue._ 8-))...
Quite right too. 👍🏻
I see this daily, unfortunately my local police will not prosecute for ANY of those offences as they REFUSE to accept camera footage as a report of any offence. On twitter a few years ago I posted a 4x4 going through red lights as pedestrians were on a crossing, they said they wouldn't be able to use car camera footage that is time and date stamped as evidence! More like they couldn't be bothered and still can't be when compared to how well other Areas approach this.
They would not even question a man that was about 2ft off my bumper as he had poor eyesight as it turned out his father in law was a local police officer and his sister in law was a WPC. Unbelievable.
3:35 That should've been dangerous/reckless driving.
There should be recourse to prosecute cyclists who ride like twats , 3 in a wide line or in the middle of the road , purposely holding vehicle traffic back , or not using the bike lanes when available . I have many hours of dashcam footage of this , but a shame bikes don't have plates
Every police force should have this service. I have sent some stupid driving into Cheshire Police before and two drivers were taken to court, but it takes time to fill in their required statements when the video clearly speaks for itself.
Imagine being that sad that you send your dashcam footage to the police
Would you rather be sad at being splattered all across the road by one of these bad drivers?
@@SpeccyManid rather live in a world without grasses like you in it.
Not enough of these clowns being banned from driving...
Had a holiday (using a car) in Cornwall and never seen so much dangerous driving and speeding
On the third day we decided to plan traveling time in off peak hours ,as before this time ,it was just relentless white vans screaming around the lanes and filling the rear view mirror. Vans coming the other way just could not stay correctly positioned on the road and constantly cut over the centre on bends.
No need for this local "get of me land" aggressive driving.
Will never holiday in the SW of England until this plague of self entitlement and aggression is under control.
WOW @ 2.33 why would anybody do that, it looked less like incompetence and more like a deliberate act.
A couple of hundred quid fine plus costs and three points for careless and inconsiderate driving.
Park up out side an Amazon depot you will make a fortune and ban the entire fleet before 9 am.
That last one... I hope it was the guy hogging the outside lane that got done.
Who? The cammer was in a line passing the middle lane, as was the white car in front. Beyond that it's unclear, but it's impossible to tell in such a short clip if people are passing or not. The fact there is only one car in lane 1 is a bit suspect, more likely what happens is one or two cars go into lane 2 to overtake a slow vehicle in lane 1, that pair only go 70, probably even 65..., then the rest of the motorway has to go into lane 3 to slowly pass with a 5mph difference.
See it all the time on the M18/M1, You can be doing the speed limit, 65 or 60 even in lane 2, holding back to not undertake cars all bumper to bumper in lane 3 all because some twat right at the front is doing 70.1mph overtaking a car doing 69.9mph. Everyone bailing into lane 3 to pass then spreads out all the cars in lane 3 and slows down the back of the queue.
I've taken to the approach that if the lane to my right is going below the speed limit, I will mostly match speed, but then slowly undertake all the fools piled behind each other until I catch whatever is ahead in my lane. I'm not undertaking, I'm just travelling in my lane at at the speed limit... IDK what those other fools are up to diving slowly in lane 3.
Can you sort out the middle lane hoggers too!
It's good this kind of footage gets prosecutions, see this kind of thing every day tbh
An overcrowded over-rated county with too many smug rich incomers & the residents pissed of with them.
I agree with you on that one. I was an ex coach driver. I am very anti Devon and Cornwall.
I think they should all be fined and also go on a driving training course someone has to pay for the potholes to be filled
How about having more po lice on the roads, it has only got like this because there is none about, I can drive all week without seeing one po lice anywhere.
too many 'driver training' get offs
At least they have to pay for the course.
Garbage sentences especially crossing road into path of oncoming should be 9 points or ban and £500 fine
I have been a lorry driver for nearly 43 years and have seen plain car traffic police do things to encourage motorists to do dangerous things as in overtake sports cars as if they want a race them and when the sports car take on the challenge they are pulled over, I've also watched them try to slow lorries down before a hill forcing the lorry driver to overtake them to keep thier speed up to prevent a lot of changing down and causing a lot of slow tail backs behind, even an ordenary policeman don't like traffic officers they say they think they are the elite and perfect drivers , yes they are trained to a high standard and witness some horrific scenes, but it's all done by procedure, police officers need respect or society breaks down, BUT respect needs to be earned.
Audi drivers are some of the biggest clowns on the road. It’s like they know they have to have a really bad standard of driving and everyone else should know it too. The fines aren’t big enough, the bans aren’t long enough.
1:08 9 penalty points?!
Please explain that one 🤨
Driving without insurance is automatically 6 points. The other 3 points must have been for the close pass.
Because he dared to defend the Marxist cyclist.
Most of these "careless" driving cases are very much deliberate, and should be charged as "reckless or dangerous", for which much greater penalties can be applied. No good stating at the end of the video that "dangerous driving will not be tolerated" You, Devon and Cornwall Police, are very evidently tolerating it, by not charging motorists with that offence. Shameful.
It makes me wonder how this people passed they driving test.
I'm not wondering how you failed your English test.
Because people generally behave better when they have a driving examiner seated next to them than they do after they get their pink card.
that white audi convertible got spanked good at court....luvly jubly.
I would be nice to see such an operation happening in Germany. On the other hand, it wouldn´t work here as you can´t see the drivers.
We have police in Australia booking people based on dashcam footage. The ruling here is that the registered owner get's the fine. They can elect another person as being the driver at the time of the incident but have to sign a statutory declaration.
Your clips are a daily and normal standard of driving in New Zealand, but no police to enforce basic driving standards.
Dash cams and enforcement follow up needs to happen here. No wonder NZ has the world's highest road kill pro rata for a 1st eorld country
Please don't blur reg. numbers. Shame them.
Weak prosecutions
Some of those are the fault of the drivers/riders recording, especially that Buckfastleigh one.
How? Please go and take your test again if you think the cammer was at fault! He had cars coming up to his right so he stayed in his lane, the person joining the carriageway should have slowed down and merged behind him. common sense there...
That slip lane at Buckfastleigh is pretty long and has great visibility, I used to use it several times a day. There was no excuse for him to force himself out like that. Plenty of room to either accelerate to get safely infront or back off to merge behind.
What????? At least there is now a legal requirement to now only pass at less than 10mph! Idiot drivers shouldn't be allowed cars.
None of you have any fucking clue
@@bigggangsta
Please enlighten us with your massive driving knowledge and experience how that was anything but the merging drivers fault.
Why do you have these nonsense training courses in England and Wales??No such thing exists in Scotland, it’s straight to points and a fine. How is it decided if you get a course and not points and a fine?
its all about tax collecting
All those cyclists should pay road tax and insurance and move over. Minority and backward thinking no one would ever get deliveries or to work if you need a full lane to over take a cyclist
Road tax was abolished in 1937. Please keep up.
@@smiffy925 really utter tosh. i passed my test in 1997 every road tax reminder i still have for my old first car long scraped like most. then later in years just cause they rename it road fund licence doesn't change the fact its a TAX still pedantic tool. bet your a Lycra blight on uk roads with a comment like that.
@@ededdynova No it is not. Google road tax and you will see. The Road fund was abolished in 1937, this is a fact. Roads are funded by local a d general taxation. VED does not directly pay for roads. These are all facts.
If it’s cyclists we don’t care
i agree with you , #ihatecyclist
@@andrewthomas2406 And here we have two examples of the kind of driver we need to be taken off of our roads. Both equally stupid and selfish.
I hate Audi drivers as much as the rest but the white soft top got shafted big time ! What do the police use to decide the fine and points 🤔 wheel of fortune 🤦🏾
The driver had no insurance. That's automatically 6 points and a £400 fine.
flippin eck,i am never going to devon and cornwall ever again.cops are too eager.
A lot of other county police forces have websites where you can post dash cam footage of dangerous driving. I believe Yorkshire police have a particularly popular one.
Perhaps if you were to ever consider driving in a safe and responsible manner, you would be made welcome.
@@paulmiller7671 i think i do ,but i couldnt give a toss for cyclist.
There are better places to go. I wouldn't waste your time with Devon and Cornwall.
bros admitting to being a dangerous driver
Private motorists playing at policemen - how sad and pathetic !!!
What else can they do, when the police won't do their job?
So you would not consider it sad and pathetic to be the victim of an RTA at the hands of one of these dangerous drivers? I suggest it is you who are sad and pathetic.
@@BedsitBobcringe, we have low crime rates in this country.
raiding a horse on a road should be illegal
Round by me they wait till rush hour then think I’ll take the horse for a ride in the road. Idiots.
3:00 I don't know who the pervert on the horse is there was nothing wrong with that overtake.
Idiot. Try the speed of the passing CAR that spooked the horse. Could have thrown the rider off into the path of the 2nd vehicle which also passed at speed.
@@chipofftheoldblock1109 1. The horse was not spooked. 2 Gave the horse a wide birth. 3 Why was the 2nd car not shown and prosecuted.
4 What was the speed of the car and what is the speed of a car to be to overtake a horse?(Idiot for brains)
@@raydaley1535 15-20mph maximum speed and should be completely in opposite lane. On a narrower road even slower or wait for a safe space to pass.
Typical moronic comment fromsomeone who shouldn't be allowed a wheelbarrow on the road
Speed of the overtake. Can spook a horse. Glad those idiots were caught. New legal requirement just coming into force, to overtake a horse at less than 10mph because of idiots like that driver. Shame you could not notice the issue.
In the clip of the 2 cyclists in Gorrington, I hope you prosecuted the 'camera' cyclist for tailgating the bike in front. That was far more dangerous than the 'close pass'. There's no brakelights on a bike to warn of a stop, and the lead cyclist may have had to swerve to avoid a pothole or object in the road that the second cyclist could not have seen because they were unsighted by slipstreaming the bike in front.
90% of those London cyclist videos, happen all the time in London. Its standard practice and completely normal here.
I've seen police vehicles, (not on response), and driving instructors get that close to cyclists.
Some of the driving displayed but the car drivers in this video is very dangerous, though, and they deserve the penalties that they get, in most of the clips
They drive like Russians
I'm just wondering if, Grant Shapps gets his way, and registration numbers on pedal cycles ever becomes law, will we be seeing careless and inconsiderate riding offences charged against cyclists? At present, cyclists enjoy an evident immunity to prosecution because they are not identifiable, yet they are by far, numerically at least, the greater proportion of rule breakers. Yes, the offences may seem minor, even petty, but ignoring red lights is just as lethal whether it's a bicycle or a motor vehicle, likewise 'bobbing and weaving' in and out of other traffic, incorrect use of pedestrian crossings, defective vehicles, riding without lights after dark, failing to signal where it would be of assistance to other road users, riding on a pedestrian way, riding the wrong way in a one way street, and the list goes on......... If registration becomes law for bicycles, I for one will be submitting video of such offences - lots of them, I do not doubt! Just like law abiding motorists, law abiding cyclists will have nothing to fear!
where is your "numerical" evidence? Your anecdotal observations tipped with bias don't count.
You might want to Google the casualty figures sometime, Rose. The amount of deaths and injuries attributed to cyclists is practically zero.
Really looking forward to the day when all cyclists have to ware a hiviz vest with an ID reg number allocated to the individual not the bike. They should also have to have 3rd party insurance to cover other road users and this would definitely reduce the amount of cyclists riding dangerously.
But we all know this will never happen 🤔🤣
Gotta love the cyclists riding on dodgy country roads with a head cam like yeahh i’m going to be a mini mobile potential fine on 2 wheels yayy 😂
Just how many people do cyclists kill each year? Maybe one (one too many). How many people do motorists kill each year? Around five hundred with tens of thousands injured. Yes let's regulate cyclists and reduce deaths and injuries on the road.....
you know 90% of cyclists also drive cars too, weird how their not in the same mindset as you. Plus most casual cyclists do have 3rd party insurance..
@@Tonerman0101 literally just don't break the law and you will be fine.
@@cornishalps9870 your talking rubbish and what you have convinced yourself of. You carry on dreaming in your own little bubble. 🤣🤣🤣
Encouraging people to snitch on everyone else, that’s not going to end well. If I was a bad person and was charged, I’d demand the footage provider be identified, and then they may regret giving plod their footage far more than the slightly close overtake of their dopey pushbike
Take it to court, demand the snitch shows up in the witness box and get their details.
Oh dear, is it too embarrassing to be caught being a shit driver. Don't drive like a tosser and there would be no problem.
Are you seriously condoning the type of driving shown in this video? Really? One can only conclude that you are a dangerous, inconsiderate and selfish driver.
@@paulmiller7671 I certainly am, you better hope you never find yourself in the way when I’m around or I’ll be teaching you a lesson in how to drive properly and effectively
@@grahvis or be a descent human being and dont snitch on each other.
Note how all the moans are from cyclists riding in the middle of the road, so what else can they expect. New Highway Code my a..e.
you mean middle of the lane, right?
Why such a disparity in points given , some seem worse than others but only 3 and less dangerous got 6 , or more , makes no sense
funny how going 26 in a 20 gets you 3 points but when someone near misses inches away from death gets the same punishment. just goes to show ay?