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@DanTup I got a VRS wheelbase after much research! I have another video on it. I think the main answer to your question will be whether you are racing at a desk, and if you plan to get a rig in the near term. If you just want to race at a desk then a more powerful base and a loadcell pedal set will cause you a headache anyway, so just get started with the cheaper stuff! If you want a rig in the near term then R12 + Loadcell will give you everything you need, but thats a lot of money! Its also not a bad time to look for used gear at good prices!

@@MichaelSmithRaces thanks, that one is probably out of my price range 😄 I'll check out the video though. I'm currently racing on a desk (with Logitech G920), I'm planning to get a rig with the change to either R5 or R9 (both because of pedal movement and the chair spinning 😄). The R5+perf kit is approx £487 and the R9+SR-P+ES wheel is approx £675 so I guess I'm trying to decide whether the load cell and the increase from 5 to 9nm is worth the ~£190 more. I think my biggest concern is that the G920 already has a rubber bung in the pedal, so the R5 pedals without kit I'm certain would feel _worse_ than the logitechs.. But I don't know if the perf kit will make up for that if I'll end up regretting not having the load cell. Used in an option, but I don't like the idea of not having a warranty for this kind of money.

If you get a rig, R9 with loadcell is 100% worth an extra £190 no question in my mind!

@@MichaelSmithRaces thanks, that's the conclusion I think I'm coming to (especially when the difference is a smaller percentage when you add the cost of the rig to the total 😄)

Dell 27inch G2724D they have been very good.

@jeffdobell4821 sorry but you are quite a different size to me so I couldn't say! Perhaps start with the sparco lumbar cushion which attaches with velcro, they also do side bolsters aswell might be able to give you a little bit of releif on your lower back?

@rafis2008 alien-mods.com/shop/product/load-cell-kit-moza-srp-lite-compatible/

@odkdsjf yeah its quite easy to attach a little fan actually but here is a copy paste from another comment I made: I have learned a lot about this topic! I didn't bother with another video perhaps I should... It's 100% down to AIRFLOW around the Moza. The R5 can produce a lot of heat, and if there is no airflow it has no option but to throttle. This is why you get such varying opinions online, because it entirely depends on the type of environment its being used in, combined with the length of use, and the amount of torque being demanded. Most users will not be aware when the base throttles a little, so they incorrectly say it has never affected them, without looking at the log files. Since adjusting my base to radical and pointing a small fan towards it I did not have any further problems (I have upgraded now to VRS) so the overheating issue should not be a problem if you are willing to either attach a small PC fan to the Moza unit, or point a fan in your general direction. Hope that helps!

@SkillIssueRacingChannel it was not a big deal for me, but really wish I got it earlier I love this style of wheel so much! See if you can find a local distributor, works out much better!

All the gear, no idea!

there is a Simpush 13-inch round wheel mod for the ES Wheel which is lighter than Moza's wheel. however the paddle shifter they provide is a stick-on and not the screw-in type which Moza's 12-inch provide

@Lenwanxin thanks for sharing, good to have more options, IDK if that offers anything over the Moza version? Looks a little cheap from my first impressions, but maybe thats the selling point if its much cheaper?

@kanicova I have learned a lot about this topic! I didn't bother with another video perhaps I should but the comments on my last one got pretty fierce! So here it is: It's 100% down to AIRFLOW around the Moza. The R5 can produce a lot of heat, and if there is no airflow it has no option but to throttle. This is why you get such varying opinions online, because it entirely depends on the type of environment its being used in, combined with the length of use, and the amount of torque being demanded. Most users will not be aware when the base throttles a little, so they incorrectly say it has never affected them, without looking at the log files. Since adjusting my base to radical and pointing a small fan towards it I did not have any further problems (I have upgraded now to VRS) so the overheating issue should not be a problem if you are willing to either attach a small PC fan to the Moza unit, or point a fan in your general direction. Hope that helps!

@@MichaelSmithRaces Hi Michael! Super thanks for your reply and insights. At first, I was going to buy a Fanatec, but I heard about the problems the company is having at the moment, and to be honest, I'll just stay away from the brand for now. I really like your honest reviews, and it's your videos that got me to choose Moza. I have AC in my office/man cave LOL, so it should be alright then. I hope you continue creating your videos and take us along on your sim racing journey. Great to hear you have moved to VRS. Since I'm just starting, I'll go with Moza, and maybe in a couple of years (or sooner) I'll check out VRS. Thanks!

@kanicova very nice comment, thank you! Good luck with the racing, its brilliant fun!

@thump3r thanks yes I have tried everything and it wont turn off! Even my usb keyboard wont wake up the PC in standby, but it still lights up! My ascher wheel the lights turn off so I don't know, never sorted it!

@tonygee3284 enjoy it! Its a good wheel for sure!

@pranjalgupta8798 sorry no idea, contact Moza support!

@Haunter_Vlogs thats awesome!

@ihavealife002 yeah there are two parts, firstly do the actual calibration so you press start calibration, then press the pedal to the max. After that you can hit the pedal as hard as you want, and see where it shows up on the graph and adjust the graph to match what you want. If you did what I did and replaced the damper rubber with the plastic block it will be very short and hard, but in that case you just treat the hard part as the start then press as hard as you want. This is one major difference with a loadcell vs potentiometer as its HOW HARD YOU PRESS rather than how far you move the pedal that you want to program in!

@chitose3146 I've got another video on the SRP Lite loadcell mod, works well!

@petermaardananders6803 thanks for sharing your experience. I had great support from Moza via gtomega here in the UK when I first got my bundle, but as you say its totally different depending on distributor / going via china etc! Its tough because they are obviously making these things cheap to reach a wider market, which is good, but the downside is its not as robust. I've got very robust kit now that I hope will last me a lifetime!

@zazoodigital glad it helped! Thanks for commenting!

@personagoldy6003 yeah I just share my experiences to help others. I have now moved on from Moza but it was a good base overall for me to get into sim racing.

@CKSimRacing awesome to hear about the new wheelbase! Yes I think with this new wheel I am set for a good while (I hope!) its so nice to use.... except the QR!

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@Kevin15673 thanks for sharing, I was really struggling with the price comparison due to differences globally, but here in the UK there are multiple distributors for both Cammus and Moza. I would always try to get it from an in country supplier if possible. If the shipping was not included in the pre order thats pretty shitty, and good to raise awareness of that so other people dont get caught out by it!

Thank you @derekl190 although they did subsequently reach out to me and give me an affiliate code & some free products since making this review. Its a very problematic industry that I'm trying to figure out myself! Hope they review helped you!

@Cabinet445 yeah I hope so! Will be great to see people using it. The reviews of R3 have all been a little underwhelming from my perspective in terms out real users

@chitose3146 normally I use a gt omega prime lite, a profile rig is really the best way to go, but when driving at my desk I put a box against the wall and stick the pedals infront of that!

@@MichaelSmithRaces thanks! Are you using loadcells or did you put loadcell mod to your pedals which you stick in front of a box? I'm asking because I'm about to buy Moza.

@chitose3146 you wont really be able to use a loadcell very well if its not mounted to something. You would atleast want a wheelstand I think if you were going to get loadcell pedals.

@herlegz6969 not sure what you mean? I said look at Fanatec, logi etc if you want console?

brother you’re going on about nothing lol

You would be looking at a wheelstand @TheConanwarrior all of the gtomega wheelstands look like they have a similar tray to this!

@Jonbwoi sorry im not involved with the company, best bet is to contact them via the website

@kiddobronson7499 got to give the people what they want so they keep watching!

@@MichaelSmithRaces Lmaoo

@wutais rubbish! Hope you can return it!

@samirrose513 no, unfortunately not! I have a few review videos for Moza on the channel where you can see how it works.

@NakarinSupanich very interesting question, I would definitely spend money on an aluminium profile sim rig before anything else, dont get a wheelstand, so of those two options I would get the Cammus bundle for sure.

@philmarsden9594 unfortunately not, in the end I went to the Ascher Mclaren Artura Pro. Love it!

Looks like Oulton Park maybe?

@Tincoco_ yep its Oulton Park, @warbi505 is right! One of my Favourites!

@kylemillsy yes your use case is a very good one. If you are racing on a desk then getting a more powerful wheelbase wont help you at all, you will feel its a bit weaker, but you get used to it. The quality difference is very significant. Its feels great next to the ES. You wont regret it, but I warn you that you will then be considering getting off your desk and getting a rid so you can get an R12 :D

@NandoLorris4 I would say it feels nicer the tighter it is, but it would feel significantly worse if it was too tight vs too wide. I also have the sparco lumber cushion which you can velcro on and it makes it hug a bit more. Make sure you check shoulder width rather than waist width, that would be the worst case if your shoulders are crushed in!

@Felipetyflop gtomega prime lite, I have some videos on it

@abcdefg6970 you will be able to if you attach your chair to the wheelstand or use some stoppers to keep the chair from rolling away! Some wheelstands have an optional bit you can attach to the front that your chair wheels can slot into!

I'm using my Cammus C5 on my old wheel stand pro that I had my G27 on. I didn't buy the desk clamp, so I drilled holes in the stand. If you have a shifter mounted to it, it's ideal to have the clamp just to keep the angle closer to the Logitech. I'm just working with an awkwardly tilted shifter as it's not intended to be my long term solution. The wheel stand is sufficient for normal driving with the C5, but I've occasionally had it rock a bit if I wreck or something. Not perfect, but worth upgrading. I'm still using the G27 pedals. No idea how well it would handle a load cell setup.

@flugelberger that sounds very strange, I know that Abruzzi and GTOmega are good and reputable in the UK. No experience with other vendors but in the UK im fairly sure they can't not add VAT, so it sounds like a non uk company that will ship to the UK...

@Nickinatorz for a desk setup the R9 is probably as high as you can go in terms of torque. I am personally not a fan of fanatec so im bias but the R9 + KS is a really great combo as the KS is miles better than the ES. I have a review of the KS vs ES that might help with your decision!

@waynemcmurray8405 Its the base plastic part of the performance mod that you unscrew and remove to add the loadcell.

Thanks for the reply, I mean the plastic part you used to replace the rubber.

@waynemcmurray8405 yeah its the bit at the bottom of the performance kit, which you can then use with the loadcell also.

@sebant01 I didnt bother getting the pedals to test, sorry, but that was because any pedals sat on the floor without a good resistance on the brake are not going to be great in my opinion. Best off working out how to mount pedals if you want to get a better brake feel