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This was great Burns! Well done Doc!

The current LOTRO (Lord of the Rings Online) will be tough to beat. It’s old and graphics aren’t modern but it is great. It is pretty faithful to the lore. Amazon will mess this up.

I love how this is so fun and unique. There's actually a game that's implementing this greatly : Albion online, they have static open world dungeons, bosses and content, and although there are some instanced content, it's not nearly as lucrative as the open world one, always weighting the greater rewards to the greater risks. And although lots of people complain about the game (mainly the pve only people that get annoyed when they get pvped in PVP zones) the game is still retaining and growing its playerbase over the years. One thing that worries me about AoC though, (I've watched lots of your videos, and idk if you or someone tackled this aspect) is power imbalance between the 0.1% guilds and the rest, hoarding this kinda content and gatekeeping the dungeons to themselves and driving out the other players, moreso when the rewards are finite and exclusive, and the first organized guild / players that have access to these will gain lots of power making it harder for the other players to fight them / access those resources. What do you think about this ? Has it been addressed by Steven ? Might be a good idea for a video or feedback to Intrepid (although I know it's a huge paradoxal issue as if less gueared or weaker players can contest and fight those players that have access to these higher more exclusive rewards, they will lose their value and be meaningless) I'm interested to see how Intrepid will tackle this issue

Imagine a server where nobody can do a raid or dungeon, and then some random guy with a talent for video games comes by and completes the dungeon. He would become a legend

You can afk in your own house, freeholds are limited in the open world and i think it should be fair that people can come and fight you off for it. Also, i've been playing albion online ever since release, the full-loot combat that scares people is only at the beginning, once you start realizing the risk-vs-rewards attached to it it becomes addicting. That being said, AoC will have only partial full loot unless ur corrupted, you will only drop resources from your inventory so i dont think it will be that bad as people claim it to be. New world used to be full loot then they did a 360 on it and removed everything about the rewards from pvp, that turned the game into a stale mmo very quickly, the economy was ruined very fast and overall from the startin 1m concurrent player we have what? 10k? tops. Full loot/ganking and risk-vs rewards is what drive mmos to last longer, they offer more ways to play the game and it gives longevity cause every open pvp encounter is always different. that's my 2 cents anyway

Some of my best memories are from open world dungeons and raids. Cant wait to experience Intepids take on them. I do feel the modern mmo enjoyer will find this style off putting. Well some of them at least.

Great video man! Really enjoyed it. Subbed and looking forward to more and Ashes alpha 2 release content

I really hope they change those dungeon names because damn are they bad.

the combat just looks so bad

Here's what I imagine endgame looking like for many people. You're essentially spending time building up, in various ways. Building up money, building reputation, acquiring friends and contacts, better equipment, and building trust within guilds and nodes. At some point, we will expend our savings. Maybe buy a house or freehold, citizenship in a node, create a spy network among your friends, build up groups of interested parties to take on the same PVE content that maybe your own guild isn't interested in, form a new guild amongst all your friends, or maybe you expend all of these, and eventually overthrow a node and take it over for yourselves. Or, attempt to, anyway. Then you'll be in a maintenance phase, to keep what you've gained. Eventually, you'll lose it, and you'll be back into a building phase. Maybe you'll do the same thing again, or build towards some other goal this time.

As always I brought my beer and popcorn as soon as I could, to enjoy your latest video. And as always. You deliver! Great video, and I’ve noticed his use of words regarding dungeon vs instanced! Well illustrated! 👏😁

Another well planned, well articulated and well produced video, continue punching above your weight! Till the next visit to the Clinic

Another "banger" my man! 🎉 Really well made, clear and effective. 😊

All they need now is to copy Pax Dei's building system for player housing and I'll never put this game down

I think they scrapped the utility skills. The balance was atrocious and would have led to people gatekeeping who could join their raid groups.

A raid boss that scales up to zergs, expands capabilities, and has better targeting, such as targeting healers over tanks. Awesome. A raid that rewards smaller raid teams specializing in teamwork. Now how do we handle the tryhards who make raiding an unpaid intern job?

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A nice bit of nostalgia with those old clips, another banger as always

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Insane video, thanks for the infos.

Steven is a Lineage 2 fan so ) in lineage are(was) no instances and free pvp everywhere, and its most exiting game ever ) wow endies never will understand that )

Hey, great video as always. What are your thoughts on the correct balance for feeling rewarded for your time & effort vs RNG loot tables along the risk-reward spectrum? In the video, you gave an example of a non-instanced boss dropping a shard that could be used as crafting materials in elite gear. Do you know if this is the direction AoC is going? I hope this is the case since that would be something everyone could roll on. I don't think everyone should be given a participation trophy, but RNG loot tables for a specific BiS set armor piece can get tedious on the other extreme. I'm aware AoC plans to place emphasis on crafting, but you know way more about the game than me.

Great content. Keep up the good work mf

Loot thing becomes an issue especially dealing with streamers and their harems if it’s open world.

Despite it's major flaws over the years, Aion did this right. There were plenty of PvE instances, but there were also open world bosses and instances in which opposing factions could go at it at the same time. Also, some of the best instances, which offered pvp items, had entrances in contested pvp zones which could be camped. It was both good and bad.

I don't think it's exactly scarcity that is required for prestige. It's about rewards truly reflecting the players' achievements. In WoW, a noob and an absolute gigachad will both have a near-identical gearset, with a different color. The rare mythic raiding mount doesn't even stand out among a sea of store mounts, free promotional event mounts, etc. Everyone gets everything all the time. So I know what you mean about scarcity... but it's not so much that players need to feel a lack of rewards. There can be an abundance rewards of all kinds... ~available to those who earn them~. It's about the integrity of the reward structure -- one that actually reflects the player's achievements and no more or less.

Great catch on the phrasing around instancing. I always assumed entire instanced or open world dungeons. Instead, room locks as he said in the AMA might be much more prevalent than I thought. Great video as always!

I remember one thing that was so awesome was in aion there was the battle for the castles in the pvp zone and certain high level players could transform onto a diety to help take those over easier. They were rock stars and I wanted to be one of those. I only knew of two on the asmodian side I played on. When they joined the battle people cheered and gathered to push.

From the server design that Intrepid showed yesterday, their Ashes of Creation servers are going to have much more players per world than WoW, or almost any other MMO. That will make such ladder climbing insane.

I wonder if they'll have some kind of dungeon break mechanic where sometimes monsters come out of the dungeons and attack the overworld

no one is gonna call out how that guy is wearing a spiderman costume?? @5:02

Quality Content as always brother 🙏

That's some pretty great detective work picking up on the nuance verbiage that Steven gauntlets his mind through to make sure he doesn't say anything too revealing or inaccurate. Lol.

Another banger Burns! Even intrepids bosses are gathering Data. Truly a living enviroment!

I think Augments will actually change/add to your primary abilities, not simply be flavor/color. Ex: Bard may have an ability to buff allies within 10m by increasing their move speed +10% for 20 seconds. If you augment with Cleric, the ability will additionally include a +1% heal/second. If you augment with Fighter, it will add a +5% physical damage buff. These augments create fundamentally different playstyles. On one hand, you can turn a bard into someone that can take on the role of a healer in the party, albeit not as good as a true cleric. And alternatively - because items are not class locked - you can build a Bard/Fighter that can play the role of melee DPS with support buffs. Sure, they won't do as much damage as an actual fighter, but they'll make the rest of your party do more damage as well so the total DPS added by including them in the party might be just as good as having another Fighter. I think the augment system will create fundamentally different playstyles & roles for your Archetype.

Question: Can you get corruption if you kill people inside a dungeon?

Yeah this seems awesome. Taking old school mmo dungeon design & bringing into 2024. I have not been that hype for the game but it's starting to look awesome.

Regardless of how they end up doing dungeons, we'll adapt, rock on and have a good time. I just hope it's done in a way that keeps the hardcore pve crowd playing. We pvx fans still want as huge of a population as we can get. #InStevenWetrust

Great vid, ty

Amazing video! The visuals certainly help a lot! Never stop please!

Love your videos Dr. thank you! I have fond memories of pvp in wow around Blackrock Depths and Upper and Lower BR Spire (group vs group battles on the way to dungeon entrances). I'm thinking we saw the forest dungeon, or portions of it during Alpha 1 testing (it was barebones/ not a full dungeon).

Thats the worst part about WoW as someone who has played for a long time. The legendaries arent legendary anymore. They have to balance the game around them because everyone has one.

Lest say a guide is full of grieffer, they can still come to your dungeon and kill you, yes they gonna turn red and yes this is dangerous for them, but they are a guild, so what can you do? It still gonna suck to get kill if you have only 20% of the boss to kill. Truth to be tell PVP in MMO is a bad idea from the start. If you like battle other player, their is a lots of other type of game for that. Yes at the start everybody will be happy and everybody will say teddy bear... But when you will find the most sweaty of guild trying to just annoy people, and you don't have all day to play but just some time.... You gonna quit and never go back.

Asheron's Call Darktide pvp server had similar format, all the dungeons were open and clearing them could take2-4x longer due to people trying to come in and take over your progress and steal the boss kill. It made the replay factor for the game more entertaining as you always had to be paying attention to your rear, but it also could be frustrating if things did not go your way.

That was my view with the instanced content as well. I hope we are right. I've seen others convinced it's just non-important quest line stuff. I would be disappointed if so. I think instanced content is important, not to separate PvP, but because I think it's the only way to house the most difficult and coordinated group PvE encounters. Set areans and set number of people are necessary to build difficult PvE that needs to be progged. I don't think you will see "progs" in a pure open world setting.

If I had to sum up my feelings in a word, it'd be "skeptical". Feel like I've seen this song and dance a dozen times. The devs can never outsmart a million autists who play the game 16hr/day. When I hear open world boss / finite drops, all I hear is massive zerging to guarantee said finite drops.

people got to comfortable with MMO's, they are afraid of failing because failing is "unacceptable" feels like in Ashes, you would most likely keep failing, until that one time you won't ^^

Oh man, I love this video

I can’t help but to think Steven watched those isekai mmo anime like log horizon or shangri la frontier with how open world dungeons and raids might work it got my anime brain working overtime

Great video! I cant wait to see the mechanics they have in store for us. and the strife, chaos, and friend you can make as you progress threw these type of dungeons. Thanks for making these, they are the best!