THIS is why Ashes of Creation is taking SO LONG
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- Опубликовано: 14 мар 2024
- Thanks to Sunny @LoreForged for the voice over. The dude is a renaissance man.
Ashes of Creation is an open world MMORPG set in a fantasy environment where you can choose different classes and races to adventure through with your friends. Intrepid Studios is the developer behind the game. They’re technically an indie studio, but their creative director Steven Sharif has a clear vision for his video game: Massively Multiplayer Role Playing Game. He wants to put the massive back in MMO. Exploring dungeons, griding for gear, crafting armor/weapons, learning new spells, and competing in large scale PvP battles. High end PvE such as raids will mainly occur in the open world. Bosses will spawn and roam through the land. Are YOU ready to enter the world of Verra?
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Your best video yet. Top-shelf content.
Thanks man!
So basically the story/quest lines are a bit like a choose your own story book, i like that idea, just so long as i don't miss out on stuff, which it seems we wont.
actually you will but like how fromsoft understands it, its acutally better when there is content that many player swill never see because than each server will not only have its own story but servers history and news buffs will talk to eachother to learn whats availble before making their own server aware of it and there will be plenty of different metas popping up as this server unlocked this node first and everyone got these good sets from the nearby dungeons and world bosses that spawn while a different server opened up a different node and got completely different gear choices and so had a completely different meta form around that. it may feel sad in a way that you likely wont see everything but if you ask me, thats the best type of game because than you have all the room to keep on playing more and more and more and more and finding litrally everything you can either on your own or through jolly cooperation with the community with plenty more to find ALWAYS still on the horizon
@@R_o_o_k_i_n_g_t_o_n Oh for sure, i get the server side of it, but in this video they say that you can still do what you might have missed, so yeah your right, one server might do one line and another might do another line, but they also said they reset, so unless you get a group that does the same line every time, which would be stupid, but i wouldn't be surprised... fastest way to the end and best gear and so on... then it should be fine.
Also, try using punctuations mate, it was a little hard to read, thanks for your reply also.
I think the idea is to miss out on stuff, there's a really good chance you won't get to experience EVERYTHING in Ashes, but that isn't the point. It's about the journey and experiencing YOUR adventure, your experience should feel kind of unique.
@@rjswas Shore one server might take up making a different note on Metropolis based on a different server having done that as well but the thing is, what time will it take to do that and the fact that there's 76 nodes to try means that there will 100% likely be plenty of content but you will just never get to experience
You will have to be constantly going from high level node to high level node to play all of the node/instance content but it seems like the "main" or "story" missions will have plenty of time for you to go do them. As long as you dont let nodes go from 3-5 for example before you visit them you should be able to play all the "story" missions on a long enough time frame. Realistically it will take a very long time to see all the content unless there is server wide and server to server communication. Every individual node will take weeks to months to level (not including the chance that surrounding nodes impact content so they would need to be leveled also) and you have to destroy high level nodes in order to level other nodes. Unless the entire community tries to min/max or 100% Ashes of Creation it will be years before everything is discovered
Such awesome videos brother!! Very good explications and visuals. Thanks! Keep it like this ❤
Thanks bro!
Brilliant video as always. Just when I think I've got a live stream update figured out and exhausted every possible titbit of information from it, along comes another Ashes of Relation video and presents a whole new dimension of consideration. Thank you, Doc.
Also, as a gamer who can't help but "game the game" (manipulating game mechanics to gain more advantage than the developers initially intended), I can't help but be excited for AoC's actually Dynamic World (which might, for the first time, not just be a buzzword).
My pleasure dude! Yeah there's gonna be a huge knowledge gap with how to change the world.
Unmatched work you're doing, brother. Love to see it.
Thanks brother
Keep it up!
Thanks homie!
He's back! Great video yet again.
Thanks dude!
Upgraded setup, mic and unmatched editing. Bro, how do you do it??? This video was so good and I couldn't agree with you more about questing, story arc content, side quests and the ever changing world! Now, imagine them adding expansions to AoC that actually give players more branches of previous content and also new story and quest content! What a time to be alive... am I right?
Thanks dude! Ooooh that's a great idea. I hadn't thought of adding new branches to previous content for expansions. That'd low hanging fruit for them and high yield for players.
Great video man! It'll be super interesting to see what people's tolerance is for these harder to optimize leveling/grinding loops. On the plus side, should be more interesting, but there's always a risk that the domino effect is so obscured that the inconsistent presence of a key story line feels random and frustrating.
Looking forward to seeing how it plays out!
Thanks bro! Same, human behavior is so unpredictable it’ll be interesting to see how people interact with these systems.
great content and better yet easy to follow long with and understand.....
I appreciate it Ethan
Great vid! Glad you put this out because the new wave of 'I'm losing interest in Ashes' is rearing it's ugly head again. Truly most people don't really know what all Steven and his team are trying to achieve with this new system...err...loads of new systems. I love reading the snarky comments though...just goes to show...most don't have one ounce of a clue when it comes to game development, or they are wanting views for their channel...or even better yet, they are impatient. Keep the vids coming!
Thanks man! Yeah lotta downers right now. They'll find out though.
Keeping a vague interest is probably the best way to invest in a long term project, people getting too hyped too early.
Awesome video, thanks for all the hard work you put in.
Thanks dude!
Great as usual!
Top quality content once again. Love the story telling! Thank you!
My pleasure dude. Thanks for watching.
Amazing content as always. Your editing and continuity is unmatched.
Thanks man. The videos take a bit to come out so my release cadence isn’t as quick as I’d like, but I try to make them worth the watch.
I really enjoyed the video. The extra depth and clips were really nice to see and showed polish. Nicely Done.
Thanks man
I’m glad you made this video; it really helps to be able to put things into a visual format instead of hearing intrepid tell us how things are. Your grasp of being able to do this really makes your videos informative, and you add in just enough humor to get a laugh!
Thank you!
Thanks Squatch! It’s my pleasure.
Genuinely Great video man!!
Good editing, well written and great execution.
Top quality. Subscribed
Thanks bro! Welcome to the Copium Clinic
so good. Great job to Sunny as well.
He nailed that voice
This was a very good video! :D
Thanks man!
We’re not ready for how intricate this game is. Great video
Thanks dude. Yeah the game goes deeeep
No one has explained it quite like you! Excellent video love the content 👏
Thanks man!
Great content, happy to see the locomotive not losing any steam.
Thanks man. The train is slow, but not stopping anytime soon.
plus all the character combinations and all the abilities, affects and animations that come with that. on top of that theyre factoring in character race and class combination affects/traits.
Excellent content, as much as I want to play the game I also want to see behind the curtain and look at the systems.
Thanks man. Yeah for sure. Although it might not be server technology, Steven might just be controlling the levers for the hundreds of servers.
@@TheCopiumClinic DM Steven as the wizard of Oz 😎🤣
Keep up the great work Burnsy
Thanks Snickity
Multiple branching quests is fun an all, but when it is in a single player. It would not be fun to make the wrong choice and then be excluded from a reward, because is and mmo, so no going back. How would they address that?
They won't and don't have to address it. It is the nature of Ashes where every action has its own consequences.
Major story arcs go beyond individual rewards. Whatever you do as a player, will be counted towards meeting a certain threshold to unlock one of many possible outcomes.
Personal story arcs will probably be a lot lighter in narrative defining choices. But again, it's not like you will 100% know the outcome or the rewards unless you're following someone else's guides.
That voice of Sunny Ravencourt!?! Great animations at the beginning once again. To be a doctor and have time to make these videos has to be so tough.
Bro he nailed it. I’m slowly figuring out ways to streamline stuff so it’s not as time consuming.
It reminds me of living campaigns (living greyhawk being the big one)
At the end of each official session the DM notes certain outcomes and sends it back to the writers. The writers then tabulate the outcomes and the most chosen path becomes the official outcome.
Sometimes players had certificates that indicated they did certain things or gained favour with certain NPCs, and these will impact future modules.
Ans sometimes at conventions major events will happen as a one off onpy available then to dramatically change the course of the story.
Like that but instead of sending results back to the writers its the server doing everything in a much shorter turn around time.
This is very interesting; they must have a big writing/content team. To keep this type of content going.
For sure. They only recently hit 200 employees but they’ve been at it for a while now.
You be you, and like ashes, we'll be Watching You
Nice production values, excellent research. I would, however, question the "all seeing eye" analogy. The prompted non-programming explanations from the "guest" devs notwithstanding, thus far I have seen nothing in the livestreams that might indicate a more complex algorithm than the ubiquitous condition-spawn mechanic that is integral to the standard kit of online games. At this stage, I am firmly in the WYSIWYG camp. As the relative complexity of the condition calculation does not eliminate the inevitable predictability of a condition-spawn mechanic, events and story arcs will become managed by the playerbase, wherein they are triggered on demand. Intrepid has yet to demonstrate an "if you do this, this happens, but if you do that, that happens" scenario, though they may do so during the upcoming Fighter update, as it appears to be associated with the story arc triggered at the end of the Commissions stream. Another caveat is the scope of the content required for a branching system. Unique branches require entirely unique content. Such a system would involve an exponential increase in the volume of content per branch, which is ostensibly impossible for any significant number of branches. Of course, the expectation is that branches will not have entirely unique content but rather, as is common, will re-use/repeat/reskin the same content in multiple branches. Even so, the task of creating even this sort of content for the described expansive system seems daunting. Of course, 200+ devs are working on the game now, so in the three or four years that seem to remain before launch, a lot might get done.
True, I would like to see an example of "if you do this, this happens, but if you do that, that happens"
Can’t believe this content is free
Haha thanks man
Bespoke is going to be sick !
You would really have to have this intention from day one almost. I remember that basically UO was promising this back in the day with just the animals and they failed that back in the day. I have seen the promise again so I’ll wait to see. Every time you redo the quest it’s a new option. Just npc can visit the spirit healer too.
Completely agree about the quest boards...look the same/similar to the ones in that travesty of a game New World, but that is where it ends. They were very shallow in New World. I remember using them to figure out what to buy on the auction house for easy leveling...dumb! I look forward to more complex and interesting questing in Ashes....Testing this in Alpha 2 can't come soon enough! Can't wait.
I saw Steven Sharif cough. We can't let him get sick.
Hahaha. Hopefully his vision is so ingrained into the people at Intrepid.
This video deserves glorious amounts of praise and toasts. We continue to advocate for its greatness and people consistently being their new age bs into the fold. Nothing will stop ashes from being epic and the naysayers have to sit back and watch us all truly enjoy. Thank you for the efforts and beautiful animations as well
Thanks homie! Yeah it's gonna be epic
In a player head how everything will go : What is the easiest way to do this quest? Take this way. What give me the best item? Take this way. If reward goes with the way you do the quest... at some point every server will be the same cause everybody will min max. Yes some odd ball will try different route, but because the majority win, everything will become the same.
It's a very interesting concept. I imagine at the beginning everything will be zerged by the first choice, but when the interest of the mmo goes down you will actually get to band with long time players to see the different outcomes making it feel fresh.
Ooh interesting take
also note: "dungeons" will be 80% shared/open, 20% instanced.
EXPECT the "story-arc re-playability if you missed the original arch" to be part of that 20%.
IMHO it makes total sense.
Ooh good thought
Maybe the server has just some DM watching data and changing the events, that would be funny tho, but really time consuming, just like the DM for Helldivers 2 😅
Haha some guy pulling levers behind the curtain. Then we find out it’s Steven. That’d be hilarious.
Great video man! I was having a conversation last night with another Ashes community member and they were being overly negative about questing, and commissions, etc... I should direct them here lol. It all serves a purpose. Its not just a means to get to endgame.
Thanks Roar! No matter what, I think some people are going to blast through leveling and ignore all the content on the way to 50. Good thing there’s a lot of content at the end too though.
I'm really anticipating this game.
Do not worry about missing stuff. If you are a toxic type player you will get a totally deferent exp. than a care bare. This actually rocks. You help everyone different exp than being a selfish all about me player. I like it. But the amount of time this is going to take means a huge investment in you're time. Just what I took from this. Great video.
Good point man!
Almost zero chance Envious makes it to launch without splintering into multiple guilds. Massive hardcore PVP guilds rarely stay together. Too many people want to be the Alpha, and fights will break out over which guilds gets to do what. I give it 2-3 months into alpha 2 and chapters will start breaking off.
Haha I wouldn't give it zero chance, but keeping large guilds together is really hard. My hat goes off to anyone who can do it.
I adore that Ashes is based off of DnD/Pathfinder concepts -- only a recipe for success!! Can't wait to see that that flower I picked raises an elder undead dragon that levels a city in one night 🤷♀ #oopslol loved the vid!!
Thanks homie!
Every time I see a system from Ashes of Creation, it's more complicated than every MMORPG out there, and it is "taking it one step further". This is what worries me... the last time we heard this the game was called Chronicles of Elyria. I am not saying they are the same, CoE was never gonna go anywhere and it was obvious from day 1 (I never even paid attention to it as it sounded so absurd). But AoC is not too far.
CoE promissed so much that it was obvious it was never going to happen. AoC seems like they are actually doing it, which means this will come out in 2035. Which means a lot of tech will come into the market, and they will decide to change it again... and keep doing it...
I am just watching and waiting until they say they are redesigning everything using AI programs, and then start over.
ffs I just let my AoC hype die down, you bastard. Great video.
Haha best compliment you could’ve given me.
@@TheCopiumClinic😂 for real I'm not expecting the game to release until 2026 at the earliest so I need to temper my hype
These thumbnails are getting out of hand. 🔥
Haha that’s the goal!
For the algo
Much appreciated my man
Well, currently my main concerns are none of the things talked about here, but the free-ness of PVP(already burned on trying the game called Stay Out where you've got little to no consequences of "accidentally" moping the passer-by when they've walked too close to ongoing PvP Zone Contest event, and that's not even counting outright Gankers), and the amount of your belongings that will drop from you upon getting PK'd, all the systems can be great as heck, but with how things are in modern gaming, when things reach certain threshold -- Im at 100% chance of not wanting to try it
The flagging and Corruption systems are very complex. They're designed to encourage active defense in PvP yet also as a deterrent to mindless PK/murderhobo. If you don't fight back, you'll suffer 100% of the death penalty. If you do fight back, you'll only suffer 50% of the penalty. Note that I'm talking about the rate of the penalty, not your inventory. As to what items you may lose if you die, you'll only lose raw materials. Never completed items nor gear.
Anyone who kills you if you're not flagged for PvP will immediately become Corrupted. Corrupted are treated as an enemy mob and are free to kill on sight by anyone in the server. They may also drop their gear if they die. Their positions will also be broadcast on the map for Bounty Hunters to find. The more they PK, the more Corrupted they will be. Corruptions will make them a lot weaker as well as multiplying death penalties up to 4x the regular amount.
I know it probably won't make you feel satisfied, but it's still something. PvP is the core of the game after all. Everything you do is against other players who don't align with your ideas.
@@Hzuuuu well, that's actually answering most part of my concerns with the game, but "PvP Flagging" thing sounds a bit confusing -- do you mean free roam PvP, but you can flip a switch that will say if someone killing you will get the Corruption stacks or not? My main reservations been about what precisely I do have to lose on top of a standard penalty, and what's gonna happen to a classic MMO Ganker just strolling around punching Noobs, to which your response is in fact satisfactory
@@SergeyWaytovCorrect. The flagging system is like telling other players that you consent to open world PvP. The game intends to heavily punish PK, so players who PK others who do not consent to PvP must be ready to face many and big consequences.
In any case, while it does sound good on paper, there will always be players who PK others for no reason without a care for the consequences.
Ps. I wrote a detailed response but RUclips deleted it. Probably because of some words I used to describe the system. Anyway, ashesofcreation.wiki is a great place for you to learn everything about the game.
@@SergeyWaytov Correct. Flagging means giving consent. PvP cannot be disabled.
Ps. I don't know what's wrong with RUclips. I've replied to you twice, both getting deleted. Probably used some words that triggered the bot.
@@Hzuuuu coz my first take been "does it mean you're excluded from PVP altogether, or its a Condition saying this person does PvP, but that one would land you Corruption stacks for PKing them". Your reply means, that Im having a toggle meaning ppl Ganking me would get Corrupted for it, and Im getting half the Penalty for punching this Lvl80 dude back
The audio is delayed about 1.5 - 2s in correlation with the video
Sounds great till the team gets "blindsided" by a million bots deforesting entire zones and ruining the game. All of these mmos and NO ONE can solve the bot problems.
I'm pretty sure they've ALREADY solved the bot problems. I saw a video on it a couple months ago.
Because they started over from 0 3-4 times already.
Maybe worth a video because I don't think you're wrong. At least not completely. Would depend on how you define "starting over"
another boring PVE mmorpg, give me daoc 2
Lol well played dude
@@TheCopiumClinic Played what? I don't get why ppl still want more PVE mmorpg, I still see a bad mix of mechanic, clunky combat system and half assed pvp mechanic filled with zerg numbers, boring. Give me hard interrupt, strong CC and group vs group pvp. a good mmorpg is meant to be played for years, and no one is playing these for years. and give me damn stick and face so I can rotate my camera and play better, all those mmorpg are just tunnel vision spamming abilities. PROVE ME WRONG
@@GramaszProve you wrong? Sure. Go raiding on the highest difficulty in any of the major mmos. See for yourself if you can deal with it by just facerolling your way through the raid. Spoiler: you can’t. And if you want hardcore pvp and nothing else because pve is just not your thing… well, there’s always tarkov (or its less known, blocky version: stalcraft) and GW2 and elite dangerous or EVE, depending on what themepark you want. Can play all those games PVP-exclusively.
@@VeryProfessionalGamer raiding is just going through a script. nothing hard in it, just maybe a bit of time to figure it out.
Don't worry I played and I'am still playing competitive games, some of them at the highest level. The issue is with mmorpg. Almost ALL of them are made for borgs who can't play for shit.
The only pvp(RVR) mmorpg that had hardcore mechanics(hard interrupt, strong CCs, incredible synergy of classes for teamplay) was daoc. but borgs like you prevented a game with similar mechanics to be developed, or even some of the ideas to be implemented in an mmorpg. seeing players playing a mmorpg for few months and then jump on the "next big thing which actually is not even big) makes me laugh
Prove me wrong, not by solving a damn script but, especially on what I said about SPECIFIC game mechanics
This game doesn’t even have factions…let alone 3 factions lmao. sad asf
This game has way more PVP than it does PVE. I think you need more research.
You are doing an amazing job. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Crackers! Was trying to keep people afloat during some of the doomium.