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To be fair I have a lot more fun playing on these over my main system. Just a challenge to see what playable titles you can get out of them! If I’m board I’m usually playing old totalwar titles which run on anything. Honestly the Xeon’s are night and day Fortnite when up to 123 / 68 / 15 over 92 / 1 / 1! £12.50 well spent and i won’t get it coming back at me for the dreaded stutters 😅 Im tempted to recase this and turn/cut the case to make a second test bench for pre build testing! Only trouble is it’s mATX. Still cool though! Would be fun to put a 12900k and AIO in for a laugh Cheers and will do 🙏🏼

Dam that’s a lot of storage! I just splashed out on a 2TB NVMe to replace my 1TB haha

@@andystech101 That’s still nice! I might do this upgrade still not fully sure probably just put a 2TB NVME aswell cause that’s gonna be expensive

Cheers and not bad for an eBay job! £150 is what it’s going up for with the Xeon and 16GB ram. You can buy a lot worse.

Pretty sure that 20w reading is wrong. 20w idle? Yeah that's reasonable for a CPU of this era. 20w at 70-80%+ load on a 84w TDP CPU? No chance that's correct. The platform itself isn't too bad though replace with a i7 4770 or 4790, cheap 120mm Heatsink, another 8 gb of Ram + RX 580 or 1060 6gb and you're playing most modern AAA titles with FSR for not a lot of money with mostly second hand parts. Also just as a sidenote, it didn't look like your i5 - 4460 ever hit it's boost clock of 3.4ghz. (it's not much but it helps) so check BIOS settings.

No I don’t pay attention to the tier list and I don’t think it’s anywhere near a real world ranking! Generally I go with my gut/feedback/trail and error! Corsair I’ve had the most problems with and they’re supposed to be a top brand… generally any £30/£40 PSU is going to be some sort of IED but I think budget goes over most reviewers heads as I don’t have £100+ to spend on a PSU haha

@@andystech101 Same here. RUclipsrs tend to rag on Kingston as a budget RAM brand for example but they've always been the most reliable in my experience.

It depends what aerocool you got - the high end is very well regarded. The low end - not so much. The more reputable tier list have testing methdology and if you have a basic understanding of how voltages work and what they're testing for you will understand why some are not so good. Stuff like voltage ripple, voltage noise, soft/hard switching etc etc. The smaller components get - we're at 5nm CPU's now - the more sensitive they become to voltage issues. The reason your PSU scored so lowly was the internal components - capacitors/FETs are from a manufacturer that is very hit or miss. We're taking about miniscule differences like .5% failure rate vs 3% failure rate. It's not much but on a grading scale it's a lot. As for your RAM comment - understand the purpose of the channels you are watching - they're not after stock standard stability - they're after overclock potential, high frequencies and fast timings etc on top of stability. That's where they fall down. It's not that they're bad, it's that they typically when they do the l33t gaming tests, they don't perform well in the standard test benches for those. Kingston is a reliable brand - majority of office PCs will use them, they just fall down at the performance sector where 99% of tech youtubers are making content for.

I love Cyberpunk as it’s forgivingly brutal all at the same time haha! Nothing wrong with Haswell mate even in 2024. I ran a Dell 3020 for a few years before going to a 5600G when I started the channel it’s just been down hill since then haha! Still got the Dell though 💪🏼

Thanks and glad to be of service to a fellow Andy 🙏🏼

Maybe we can do a quick one! I’d love to have to time to get more out and I’m trying to cut things down so I can! I may do a review on the E3 1240v3 Xeon as I’m interested in its full potential going forward! Not much but it’s probably enough to keep up with a 1660Ti/2060.

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I could have cheated haha I’ve got draws of the stuff! May do a quick follow up just to see what it does with the Xeon and 16GB! Maybe overclock the balls off the 960 but Zotac cards have a habit of blowing up on me….

@@andystech101 Ha Ha yes, that would be good, ye iv had a load of 'broken' Zotc cards in the past and XFX Ghost, may be the single fan, but the interwebs was flooded with HD7850/70 XFX Ghosts

Haha! Yes shame on them…

Thanks and much appreciated 🙏🏼

No such thing as a bad gaming pc just a bad use case 💪🏼

12 minutes you’ll never get back 😅

The name of the Gods 💪🏼

Hi buddy in the short form I’d go with something like this. 8th gen Dell £70/£80 / GTX1660super £80 / 1TB SSD £40. That’s probably the best you’ll get for £200. Other option is to find a use Ryzen system on the cheap but not sure what your market is like.

@@andystech101 thx so much but now looking at your builds I mite buy one of yours

Depending if you want to get creative or just something that will fit straight in? RTX3050 6GB is probably the best slap it straight in! If you want to use a power adapter I’d go with an RTX4060.

@@andystech101 i really want the A2000 but its way to expensive.i could buy 4 computers for the price of that gpu. i only paid 80 bucks for my pc and that was with free shipping.

AM4 is definitely the better option if you can make the jump. Cheap B450 £50/£60 and the world’s your oyster. I would recommend going for a V3/V4 Xeon with some DDR4 if you did go for the Xeon over AM4 though.

I didn't catch the end of the video; could you explain how you throttled your GPU?

That’s ok no worries. I undervolted the gpu to get it down to 90/100w using MSI afterburner.

@@andystech101 I chose security, and I found an RX 6400, which I think is a good choice too, haha.

@Alucard782 Just be careful as it’s a PCIe x4 card so you’ll be loosing 10/15% performance but still a good little GPU! Gets a bad press but I don’t mind it.

I believe you can as the PSU is normal 24/8pin. You may have to get creative with the power button but the USB/USB3/Audio headers are normal as well.

@@andystech101 theres a deal on this barebone but the seller said i cant use the psu here cause its only for alienware motherboard thats why i looking for the answer here

Nice! Thanks for sharing your story. I’m the same and will always have a fond spot for a few older cards. 4090! That’s quite an accomplishment.. Think I’d get a divorce if I dropped that bombshell haha

@@andystech101 Yeah the only reason I was able to justify the 4090 for myself is because I know I probably won't upgrade my GPU again for the foreseeable future. That, and I was able to sell my 3080 for about 700 dollars so I technically spent 900 dollars on the 4090 instead of a full 1600 dollars.

Hi yes it would if it’s the mini tower. The SSF system will need a low profile GPU.

Great little card 😎

Yes I’d say so as that’s a laptop chip so uses less power over the normal 6600.

Still one of my favourite little gpu’s. Thanks for the comment.

Awesome! Love it 😎

People always forget the old ones are gold ones and you don’t need a 4070super to play 95% of games out there! Glad it’s serving you well and I need to do a 2024 follow for the 970 me thinks!!!

My point exactly! The main grip about this card seems to be ignorance haha

You’ll need some sort of GPU as a display out as these Xeons don’t have integrated graphics.

If it’s crashing at 4.3GHz you’ll need more voltage to keep it stable. 0.050mV at a time. If not dial it back to 4.2Ghz etc. you’ll want to keep the voltage under 1.4v if you can for the long term.

@@andystech101 thank you so much!!

I was yes. 11 Tiny burned with Rufus to remove the requirements. Cuts a load of stuff out and runs really well as the light version.

I bought the 4 + 7 pin 500W for the 480/280 and it works fine

Awesome! I need to have a go at a PSU swap for one of these later OEMs. I’ve done the 4th gen Dells! Tbh a 1660super is probably a better option over the 3050 6GB but I wanted to see what it can do. Thanks for the comment really appreciate it.

Yes would be perfect for you. Make sure you’ve an i5 or a 4core cpu at least, SSD and at least 8GB ram. You might be better to buy a cheap quadro like a K620 as they still have driver support.

@@andystech101 appreciate the reply mate. Will do, I’ve got one coming from computer exchange for £45 🫡

V3/V4 have benefits yes like AVX2 and are a little cheaper now.

Sorry bro links would have been well out of date at this point so have been removed.

No it was just one of those pointless features… can’t say I’ve ever hot swapped a HDD or ever plan to! It would be useful for cloning drives though.