Pretty sure that 20w reading is wrong. 20w idle? Yeah that's reasonable for a CPU of this era. 20w at 70-80%+ load on a 84w TDP CPU? No chance that's correct. The platform itself isn't too bad though replace with a i7 4770 or 4790, cheap 120mm Heatsink, another 8 gb of Ram + RX 580 or 1060 6gb and you're playing most modern AAA titles with FSR for not a lot of money with mostly second hand parts. Also just as a sidenote, it didn't look like your i5 - 4460 ever hit it's boost clock of 3.4ghz. (it's not much but it helps) so check BIOS settings.
That's an amazing PC for 50 GBP! Would be nice to see a quick update video to show how much better it performs with that Xenon processor you mentioned as well as 16GB RAM in dual channel. And maybe then trying out a different GPU to see how much extra difference that makes.
Maybe we can do a quick one! I’d love to have to time to get more out and I’m trying to cut things down so I can! I may do a review on the E3 1240v3 Xeon as I’m interested in its full potential going forward! Not much but it’s probably enough to keep up with a 1660Ti/2060.
Here I am with my GTX 860M, hearing you talk about this as a potato system! lol Fair enough. Yeah I think the extra RAM could help a lot with the 1% lows in some games. Regarding suggesting a Xeon CPU, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be a better purchase. Xeon CPUs (that I know of) lack an iGPU. That can hurt under certain circumstances, especially when talking about older hardware which are pushed to the limit today. The iGPU can take a load off the rest of the system at some times, which can be very useful when the PC is struggling to cope with whatever you are doing. Just putting that out there. I am sorry for your loss. That always sucks. I wish I have some comforting thing to say. I haven't found a way to not think about these things yet, so....good luck and stand strong. I have to say, that PC case...looks interesting. I like how the motherboard is parallel to the desk and that it has space for optical and FDD. Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work.
To be fair I have a lot more fun playing on these over my main system. Just a challenge to see what playable titles you can get out of them! If I’m board I’m usually playing old totalwar titles which run on anything. Honestly the Xeon’s are night and day Fortnite when up to 123 / 68 / 15 over 92 / 1 / 1! £12.50 well spent and i won’t get it coming back at me for the dreaded stutters 😅 Im tempted to recase this and turn/cut the case to make a second test bench for pre build testing! Only trouble is it’s mATX. Still cool though! Would be fun to put a 12900k and AIO in for a laugh Cheers and will do 🙏🏼
I have an Aero Cool Integrator 750w semi-modular PSU that I bought at the end of 2018. According to the tier lists out there it is little better than a IED. Yet it has powered three generations of my gaming PC with the current one being a Ryzen 5 5600X, 32GB of DDR4 3600MHz, and a RTX 3060 12GB, two NVMes and three hard drives. I suspect the people who make these tier lists have never actually used the components they rate.
No I don’t pay attention to the tier list and I don’t think it’s anywhere near a real world ranking! Generally I go with my gut/feedback/trail and error! Corsair I’ve had the most problems with and they’re supposed to be a top brand… generally any £30/£40 PSU is going to be some sort of IED but I think budget goes over most reviewers heads as I don’t have £100+ to spend on a PSU haha
@@andystech101 Same here. RUclipsrs tend to rag on Kingston as a budget RAM brand for example but they've always been the most reliable in my experience.
It depends what aerocool you got - the high end is very well regarded. The low end - not so much. The more reputable tier list have testing methdology and if you have a basic understanding of how voltages work and what they're testing for you will understand why some are not so good. Stuff like voltage ripple, voltage noise, soft/hard switching etc etc. The smaller components get - we're at 5nm CPU's now - the more sensitive they become to voltage issues. The reason your PSU scored so lowly was the internal components - capacitors/FETs are from a manufacturer that is very hit or miss. We're taking about miniscule differences like .5% failure rate vs 3% failure rate or 5% variation in voltage vs .05% . It's not much but on a grading scale it's a lot. As for your RAM comment - understand the purpose of the channels you are watching - they're not after stock standard stability - they're after overclock potential, high frequencies and fast timings etc on top of stability. That's where they fall down. It's not that they're bad, it's that they typically when they do the l33t gaming tests, they don't perform well in the standard test benches for those. Kingston is a reliable brand - majority of office PCs will use them, they just fall down at the performance sector where 99% of tech youtubers are making content for.
I love Cyberpunk as it’s forgivingly brutal all at the same time haha! Nothing wrong with Haswell mate even in 2024. I ran a Dell 3020 for a few years before going to a 5600G when I started the channel it’s just been down hill since then haha! Still got the Dell though 💪🏼
I could have cheated haha I’ve got draws of the stuff! May do a quick follow up just to see what it does with the Xeon and 16GB! Maybe overclock the balls off the 960 but Zotac cards have a habit of blowing up on me….
@@andystech101 Ha Ha yes, that would be good, ye iv had a load of 'broken' Zotc cards in the past and XFX Ghost, may be the single fan, but the interwebs was flooded with HD7850/70 XFX Ghosts
Just noticed on watching back that the CPU never pulled more than 20w! Any ideas? Or is the board just reading faulty?
Pretty sure that 20w reading is wrong. 20w idle? Yeah that's reasonable for a CPU of this era. 20w at 70-80%+ load on a 84w TDP CPU? No chance that's correct. The platform itself isn't too bad though replace with a i7 4770 or 4790, cheap 120mm Heatsink, another 8 gb of Ram + RX 580 or 1060 6gb and you're playing most modern AAA titles with FSR for not a lot of money with mostly second hand parts. Also just as a sidenote, it didn't look like your i5 - 4460 ever hit it's boost clock of 3.4ghz. (it's not much but it helps) so check BIOS settings.
This will play 90% of my steam library just fine. Haswell and Maxwell still slugging away.
No such thing as a bad gaming pc just a bad use case 💪🏼
Back in the good old days where Chillblast didn't bother charging to install Chrome 😂. Great video as always mate.
Haha! Yes shame on them…
Upgrade it to the max, with 4790,watercool it,add 1660 (any kind).
Glad to see you back, Andy!
Thanks and much appreciated 🙏🏼
Perfect video to wind down my workday, thanks for uploading! Glad to see a fellow Andy back again 💪
Thanks and glad to be of service to a fellow Andy 🙏🏼
That's an amazing PC for 50 GBP! Would be nice to see a quick update video to show how much better it performs with that Xenon processor you mentioned as well as 16GB RAM in dual channel. And maybe then trying out a different GPU to see how much extra difference that makes.
Maybe we can do a quick one! I’d love to have to time to get more out and I’m trying to cut things down so I can! I may do a review on the E3 1240v3 Xeon as I’m interested in its full potential going forward! Not much but it’s probably enough to keep up with a 1660Ti/2060.
Here I am with my GTX 860M, hearing you talk about this as a potato system! lol Fair enough.
Yeah I think the extra RAM could help a lot with the 1% lows in some games.
Regarding suggesting a Xeon CPU, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be a better purchase. Xeon CPUs (that I know of) lack an iGPU. That can hurt under certain circumstances, especially when talking about older hardware which are pushed to the limit today. The iGPU can take a load off the rest of the system at some times, which can be very useful when the PC is struggling to cope with whatever you are doing. Just putting that out there.
I am sorry for your loss. That always sucks. I wish I have some comforting thing to say. I haven't found a way to not think about these things yet, so....good luck and stand strong.
I have to say, that PC case...looks interesting. I like how the motherboard is parallel to the desk and that it has space for optical and FDD.
Thanks for the video. Keep up the good work.
To be fair I have a lot more fun playing on these over my main system. Just a challenge to see what playable titles you can get out of them! If I’m board I’m usually playing old totalwar titles which run on anything.
Honestly the Xeon’s are night and day Fortnite when up to 123 / 68 / 15 over 92 / 1 / 1! £12.50 well spent and i won’t get it coming back at me for the dreaded stutters 😅
Im tempted to recase this and turn/cut the case to make a second test bench for pre build testing! Only trouble is it’s mATX. Still cool though! Would be fun to put a 12900k and AIO in for a laugh
Cheers and will do 🙏🏼
I have an Aero Cool Integrator 750w semi-modular PSU that I bought at the end of 2018. According to the tier lists out there it is little better than a IED. Yet it has powered three generations of my gaming PC with the current one being a Ryzen 5 5600X, 32GB of DDR4 3600MHz, and a RTX 3060 12GB, two NVMes and three hard drives. I suspect the people who make these tier lists have never actually used the components they rate.
No I don’t pay attention to the tier list and I don’t think it’s anywhere near a real world ranking! Generally I go with my gut/feedback/trail and error! Corsair I’ve had the most problems with and they’re supposed to be a top brand… generally any £30/£40 PSU is going to be some sort of IED but I think budget goes over most reviewers heads as I don’t have £100+ to spend on a PSU haha
@@andystech101 Same here. RUclipsrs tend to rag on Kingston as a budget RAM brand for example but they've always been the most reliable in my experience.
It depends what aerocool you got - the high end is very well regarded. The low end - not so much. The more reputable tier list have testing methdology and if you have a basic understanding of how voltages work and what they're testing for you will understand why some are not so good. Stuff like voltage ripple, voltage noise, soft/hard switching etc etc. The smaller components get - we're at 5nm CPU's now - the more sensitive they become to voltage issues. The reason your PSU scored so lowly was the internal components - capacitors/FETs are from a manufacturer that is very hit or miss. We're taking about miniscule differences like .5% failure rate vs 3% failure rate or 5% variation in voltage vs .05% . It's not much but on a grading scale it's a lot. As for your RAM comment - understand the purpose of the channels you are watching - they're not after stock standard stability - they're after overclock potential, high frequencies and fast timings etc on top of stability. That's where they fall down. It's not that they're bad, it's that they typically when they do the l33t gaming tests, they don't perform well in the standard test benches for those. Kingston is a reliable brand - majority of office PCs will use them, they just fall down at the performance sector where 99% of tech youtubers are making content for.
Another video! I had nothing to watch, thanks alot lol
12 minutes you’ll never get back 😅
Nice little build for the price, hopefully can get 150ish after putting it up for 200ish.
Cheers and not bad for an eBay job! £150 is what it’s going up for with the Xeon and 16GB ram. You can buy a lot worse.
Ironically these specs are very close to my personal rig, and I just upgraded 😂😂😂
Did you just say CyberPunk and budget gaming in the same sentence?
I love Cyberpunk as it’s forgivingly brutal all at the same time haha! Nothing wrong with Haswell mate even in 2024. I ran a Dell 3020 for a few years before going to a 5600G when I started the channel it’s just been down hill since then haha! Still got the Dell though 💪🏼
Thats a nice little case for 10 year-old not too big, i think you should have added the ram and put I bought a £50 ebay Gaming PC for £55, Ha ha
I could have cheated haha I’ve got draws of the stuff! May do a quick follow up just to see what it does with the Xeon and 16GB! Maybe overclock the balls off the 960 but Zotac cards have a habit of blowing up on me….
@@andystech101 Ha Ha yes, that would be good, ye iv had a load of 'broken' Zotc cards in the past and XFX Ghost, may be the single fan, but the interwebs was flooded with HD7850/70 XFX Ghosts
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