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it makes sense for stations in the same locality to be managed by one operator so they can redeploy staff between stations, arrange maintenance easier etc

Just two things I need to mention: 1. The name of the line you were travelling on is the Darent Valley Line, named after the river that runs through North Kent from its mouth at Dartford . 2 Higham does still have one early evening Southeastern service, but during weekend engineering works the HS1 service to St Pancras will stop there in place of the Thameslink service

I wonder if First Group could bring back Capital Connect or to form a new TSGN franchise when Govia Thameslink Railway operator ends in April 2028. Or will Govia extend the GTR franchise for at least another 8-9 years. And with plans to order more extra trains such as new trains to be used on the Caterham, Tattenham Corner and Epsom Downs routes.

And yet Thameslink manage Denmark Hill despite London Overground operating more services than TL and Southeastern.

one could flip this and count what other operators serve Thameslink managed stations ( eg Wimbledon Loop Southern peak services )

Honestly I thought it’s other TOCs just “uh could you help us serve the other small stations because we couldn’t be bothered to? Thanks thameslimk”

2:44 Sometimes on events and every twice a day on weekdays southeastern stop at higham

3:13 southern services from London to Portsmouth Southampton and Bognor Regis do stop at Crawley regularly but not Ifield Faygate and Littlehaven

Bat and Ball is a great name for a Station

I do wonder whether part of the reason for stations remaining with old operators when their services transferred over to Thameslink was a means of avoiding the risk of renegotiating contracts with station staff

Nice video, I enjoyed that 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 if you think Thameslink doesn’t manage that many of its stations you should see CrossCountry

This could be a theme for other TOCs as well, for example I noticed CrossCountry manage very few stations I think, for example I noticed a lot of the stations between Peterborough and Birmingham were managed by EMR despite limited or no services from EMR.

Eithen the limited service GN services to Peterborough don't stop at Arlesey or Sandy anymore meaning those are thameslink only.

For the Southern and Great Northern ones, I guess, as you point out at the end, it is just a different sub-brand of the same operator, so it is just a case of them not changing the signs, which happens a lot anyway. But the South Eastern ones are a bit more strange.

Nice video! My local station is managed by Southeastern, but has an equal number of Southeastern and Thameslink services. Interesting how the Sevenoaks branch is managed by Southeastern, yet only Otford and Sevenoaks have regular Southeastern services! Anyways, interesting video! Enjoyed it!

5:30 the next station is kings Lynn?

1:25 that was close

Does that mean the night Riviera to Cornwall and the Caledonian sleeper to Scotland are going to meet like avamti and gwr

Avanti and GWR are going to meet eachother 😂

Lol first time we see trains pass Gatwick Airport and that

Only time I've ever been fast through Gatwick Airport was on The Metro Marauder railtour and I have to say it was a very strange experience indeed!

"What? Gatwick Express doesn't go to Gatwick?!" 😂

blåhaj!

that’s a very strange sight

I think the last time it regularly happened was with Connex Expresses using the class 319s which were permitted up to 100mph on parts of the BML.

Imagine passanger hst's in Euston

what your favorite tube stock? If you say s stock i might just have to unsubscribe lol

4:05 no no no no no. Have you ever been on a train with broken AC with no windows to open?? It STINKS. This is genius. The caf civities are so underwhelming.

Hopefully I won’t miss the GWR diverts at the end of the year

Do Bond Street to Stratford or the other way round because like that one, 3 different ways to getting to the destination.

HSTs Were Better 👍

How do the drivers get signed off to do this route? Do they have to spend some time in a classroom or join a WCML driver to learn the route out of Euston?

Stansted express also had class 360

Another fun challenge...... Lizzy and Central line, you could of done a quick & easy tap in/out

Why are they not using the pantographs?

GWR back to Birmingham??? 😂

What stations could i go to along the WCML to see these while trainspotting?

How is GWR getting to Euston

What about a quick North South vs East West race? One on the northern line Waterloo to Euston Vs St. Paul's to Oxford Circus on the Central line? Both about 10-12 minutes, it genuinely is anyone's. I've done this a few times with mates for a giggle and it's been 2 all over four times, Northern two and Circle two.

You could try a little race from Paddington to Bath Spa on the GWR and then someone on the Central line from Epping to West Ruislip? Both about 90 minutes, one across the UK one across London? I would suggest to Bristol and end up at Brunel's beautiful Temple Meads but that's an extra 15 minutes and an obvious winner before you start. Bath gives it that neck and neck edge. ;)

Really good idea but you ideally should have tested time instead of physically moving people, I don't think both westbound and eastbound trains turned up precisely at the same time, then departed simultaneously. Usually takes 77-80 minutes depending on computer numbers.

Good news. The class 379s that abellio did not want are being tested for the use of Great Northern. All I know is that units 379 016 and 379 022 have been tested at from Kings Cross to Cambridgeshire 3 days ago

These trains are awful on the Portsmouth to Cardiff line which used to be mostly 158s. Awful 3x2 seats that are not comfortable for the long journey and also i'm yet to be on one that actually has working air conditioning. I understand using thse on short routes but for long routes its just not acceptable. I think I heard somewhere they were meant to get a better referb. with 2x2 seating and some table seating however this didn't happen and just went for updating the current 3x2 seating.

Sounds like you 3 had a good time having a race to get to Stratford and to see who has come first. Mind you the Elizabeth Line is excellent because it’s so much easier to get into Central London.

Northern alco have 3 car 150s

the "london bridge and city line" is a very accurate name 😂

It’s luck of the draw really as to who would win. If the EL trains had been the other way round (Shenfield before Abbey Wood), Dylan wins. If the GA train had been 2 mins earlier, Jack wins. It’s such fine margins but if you’re starting from outside McDonald’s at LST (as you guys did), then GA would be quickest as you don’t need to rush down to the tube/EL

You lot should do Ealing Broadway to Stratford or Barking next 👀

Loved this!

A stopwatch showing the exact timings would have added more to the video. As it was, it looked like everyone arrived at about the same time, and it wasn't clear how many seconds made the difference. Also, you could improve the volume balance a bit (crazy drums were much louder than the voices, and the narration was often muffled and hard to make out).