Simple Minded Fella
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4th annual sportsmens auction. Fellowship church.
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4th annual sportsman's auction at the fellowship church in Columbia Falls Montana. They run 3 different waves of the silent auction and raffles this year there was a total of 6 guns donated, a 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08, 308, 410, .223/556, and a 22lr. Sanppy"s sporting goods really helped hook us up with deals on some of the rifles. Big thanks to all our doners. Glacier Mountain Builders Shield Arm...
150gr Badlands Bulldozer 2 experimental broaching test. Will they expand faster/sooner on impact?
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Ballistic gel testing experimental heavy broaching on the 30 caliber 150 grain Badlands Bulldozer 2 to see if they would expand faster/quicker on low velocity impacts. I used an 8 inch 300 AAC/Blackout pistol 1:7 twist for this test. As can be seen in the video there is no noticeable difference at lower velocities.
300 WSM brass converted into 6.8 Western, a quick overview of brass conversions and tools I use.
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Going over some of the tools I use and ones that will be needed for converting brass cases into what you need. In this video I am doing an overview on 300 WSM into 6.8 Western. I use 7.62x39 for my 6.5 Grendel, 223 Remington for 222 Remington, 300 AAC/Blackout, and will be using it for 277 Wolverine in the near future, 308 WIN for 338 Federal, 7mm-08, 6.5 Creedmoor, and 6mm Creedmoor. (308 can ...
150gr 30cal Badlands Bulldozer 2 RPM test in a 1:7 and 1:10 barrel under 1800 fps.
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RPM Testing the Badlands Bulldozer 2 150 grain 30 caliber under 1800 fps to see if RPM's play a significant factor on how bullets perform terminally at distance. I used Trail Boss in a 300 WM with a 1:10 twist and Lil'gun in a 300 AAC/Blackout with a 1:7 twist. If both had exactly the same velocity there would be a 52,457 RPM difference. The closest I got was a 7 fps difference making for a dif...
Lapua Scenar 139 gr 0.264/6.5mm Creedmoor and Grendel 10% gel test. Viable for hunting???
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10% ballistics gelatin testing the 139 grain 0.264 Lapua Scenar shot out of a 6.5 Creedmoor and a 6.5 Grendal showing its performance at different velocities simulating different ranges depending on ones case selection and muzzle velocities to see if they will make for a viable hunting bullet. (yes viable no I would not recommend using them) These bullets were sent to me by Wally from submoasho...
30 Cal 168gr Gold-Dot, 300 PRC, 30-06, and 300 AAC/Blackout 10% gelatin test. Good for hunting???
Просмотров 2,9 тыс.Год назад
I loaded up some 30 caliber 168 grain Speer Gold Dot bullets in a 300 AAC/Blackout, 30-06, and 300 PRC to test the bullets with standard loads at different velocities into 10% ballistics gelatin seeing how viable of a hunting bullet these could be and at different ranges based off what someone loads them into and their muzzle velocity. I'm very pleased with the overall performance of the Speer ...
300 Blackout 16" compared to an 8" velocities PT3
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Velocities part 3 as I do not have the correct computer with software to put the two videos that go-pro decided to separate back into one. I really need to update my equipment. Unfortunately good equipment is not budget friendly and go-pro is not professional enough to leave my single recordings as one recording as well as me not being professional enough to bite the bullet and get new equipment.
300 Blackout 16" compared to an 8" milk jug test PT2. 168 grain ELD-M and Nosler ABLR
Просмотров 288Год назад
Testing the difference between a 16" and 8" 300 AAC/Blackout in milk jugs full of water shooting the 168 gr ELD-M and Nosler ABLR. I do go on a bit of a rant about recent bad recommendations given by a heavily followed channel in regards to nice and quiet single shot suppressed 300 AAC/Blackout subsonic and hunting (Poacher Special) (NO I do not and never will recommend poaching). Know your bul...
300 Blackout 16" compared to an 8" milk jug test. PT1 (168 A-Max, ELD-M, Gold-Dot and 165 Hot-Cor)
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Because of the weather I stopped the test only part way into it. If this is something you would like to see me complete please let me know in the comets. I want to do it in gelatin for more accurate results on what would happen in game but I would have to do it in 4 different videos and water although not ideal can work. Let me know your thoughts. I don't like using the chronograph when shootin...
Gelatin is NOT an animal. Yes it is a good test medium if you know what you are looking at.
Просмотров 460Год назад
Sharing some of my thoughts on how gelatin differs from animals and not all animals are the same. 10% was a standard set by the FBI and used by the hunting bullet manufacturing industry for good reasons and it is what I use for all my testing. Not all animals are the same and not all shot placements go through identical tissue. Know your animals, bullets and how your bullets will function so yo...
Shooting at distance vs reducing loads and shooting up close. How much does it really matter???
Просмотров 1,7 тыс.Год назад
Just going over some of the bullets I have tested and my results as well as addressing some of the miss assumptions about close rang reduced load testing.
6.8 Western. I had 7.5 inches cut off the barrel of my X-Bolt Mountain Pro Long Range Tungsten.
Просмотров 3,3 тыс.Год назад
Working on load development for a buddy's custom 6.8 Western with a 20 inch barrel I was really liking how things were going so I bought the X-Bolt Mountain Pro Long Range Tungsten in 6.8 Western. My buddy dropped off some factory rounds he had bought just to be able to shoot the gun before bringing it to me to work up a hand load for him. So when I had picked up my rifle I decided to check vel...
PT2 Badlands Bulldozer 2, 30 cal 175 grain gel test at various velocities (read description)
Просмотров 2,7 тыс.Год назад
Ballistics gel testing the 30 caliber 175 grain Badlands Bulldozer at various velocities simulating different ranges depending on muzzle velocities. (Good overall performance I missed spoke towards the end and the first shot did mushroom) 1750-2400 fps all recovered and all had mushroomed. The one at 1750 didn't transfer near the energy into the gelatin but it did do its job even that low. (If ...
PT1 Badlands Bulldozer 2, 30 cal 175 grain gel test at various velocities. 308, 30-06, and 300 PRC
Просмотров 1,8 тыс.Год назад
Ballistics gel testing the 30 caliber 175 grain Badlands Bulldozer at various velocities simulating different ranges depending on muzzle velocities. These were sent to me by one of my subscribers for testing. I use the 10% gel standard for testing bullets that may be used for hunting large game in the US. I do like that the bullet had a very similar performance between the one that impacted the...
PT 2, 30 cal 180 gr Cutting-Edge Maximus gel test (300 PRC)
Просмотров 357Год назад
PT 2, 30 cal 180 gr Cutting-Edge Maximus gel test (300 PRC)
PT 1, 30 cal 180 gr Cutting-Edge Maximus gel test at various velocities 308 Win, 30-06, 300 PRC
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PT 1, 30 cal 180 gr Cutting-Edge Maximus gel test at various velocities 308 Win, 30-06, 300 PRC
120gr Barnes TAC-TX Gel Test 308 reduced, 30-06, and 300 PRC (EXPLOSIVE!!!)
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120gr Barnes TAC-TX Gel Test 308 reduced, 30-06, and 300 PRC (EXPLOSIVE!!!)
150gr 30Cal Cutting-Edge Maximus ballistic gel testing at high velicity + low simulating long range
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.2 года назад
150gr 30Cal Cutting-Edge Maximus ballistic gel testing at high velicity low simulating long range
Norma Tipstrike 30 cal 170 grain ballistics gel testing at different velocities
Просмотров 6 тыс.2 года назад
Norma Tipstrike 30 cal 170 grain ballistics gel testing at different velocities
Part 2, 150gr Winchester Power Point 10% gel vs water in jugs testing, bullet overview
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.2 года назад
Part 2, 150gr Winchester Power Point 10% gel vs water in jugs testing, bullet overview
Part 1, 150gr Winchester Power Point 10% gel vs water in jugs testing
Просмотров 7 тыс.2 года назад
Part 1, 150gr Winchester Power Point 10% gel vs water in jugs testing
Cutting-Edge 7mm 155gr MTH failure to perform properly at high velocities
Просмотров 1,3 тыс.2 года назад
Cutting-Edge 7mm 155gr MTH failure to perform properly at high velocities
Norma BONDSTRIKE 180gr 30cal gel test 308, 30-06, 300 PRC
Просмотров 9 тыс.2 года назад
Norma BONDSTRIKE 180gr 30cal gel test 308, 30-06, 300 PRC
6.5/.264 156gr Norma Alaska RNSP 6.5 Creedmoor gel testing high and low velocities
Просмотров 2,6 тыс.2 года назад
6.5/.264 156gr Norma Alaska RNSP 6.5 Creedmoor gel testing high and low velocities
Cutting-Edge 155gr 7mm/.284 MTH Ballistics gel test
Просмотров 7512 года назад
Cutting-Edge 155gr 7mm/.284 MTH Ballistics gel test
.284/7mm 155gr Cutting-Edge MTH shot out of a 7mm-08 at high velocity and low simulating long range
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.2 года назад
.284/7mm 155gr Cutting-Edge MTH shot out of a 7mm-08 at high velocity and low simulating long range
Out of the country for a bit. Will be back to ballistic videos soon. Copper Canyon Mexico
Просмотров 2332 года назад
Out of the country for a bit. Will be back to ballistic videos soon. Copper Canyon Mexico
0.264/6.5mm 140gr Speer Gold Dot shot from a 6.5 Creedmoor ballistics gel test high and low velocity
Просмотров 6 тыс.2 года назад
0.264/6.5mm 140gr Speer Gold Dot shot from a 6.5 Creedmoor ballistics gel test high and low velocity
NEW FOR 2022!!! Hornady CX 0.264 120gr shot out of a 6.5 Creedmoor
Просмотров 22 тыс.2 года назад
NEW FOR 2022!!! Hornady CX 0.264 120gr shot out of a 6.5 Creedmoor

Комментарии

  • @tomswulf_lv6217
    @tomswulf_lv6217 5 часов назад

    Ther are 2 tipes of fox munition 1 for fox and birds, and 2 for big geim that expands sory for bad english.

  • @JasonTrudel-s4s
    @JasonTrudel-s4s 7 дней назад

    So I have been trying to convert 300wsm to 6.8 but it’s not working am I missing something

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 6 дней назад

      you have to bump the shoulder back a few ten-thousands back past standard length in order to get them to chamber for the first fringing (fire forming). Other than a shoulder crushing occasionally moving that much brass, as long as I bump the shoulder back far enough I haven't had any issues with using 270 and 300 WSM brass for my 6.8 western.

  • @a.joegevara3519
    @a.joegevara3519 8 дней назад

    Awesome, I found it on sale and bought 10 boxes of 308!

  • @llkj7944
    @llkj7944 13 дней назад

    Any opinions if these Gold dots is what Federal is loading in their Fusion line of ammo? Recovered bullets look almost identical!

  • @MTMILITIAMAN7.62
    @MTMILITIAMAN7.62 20 дней назад

    So 600 to 800 yards, depending on muzzle velocity being, say 2550 to 2750 fps? For perspective, a .357 Magnum will do between 1400 and 1500 fps from a 158 gr in a 6+ inch revolver. So .357 Magnum energy from an expanding bullet at 600+ yards? Not bad! And you can get Hornady Black with the 168 gr Amax for $1.60-ish a pop, which also isn't bad for match .308 Win, these days. I am in the process of putting an 18 inch Proof and a Dead Air Sandman on a DMR themed AR-10, and I gotta say, this bullet is checking a lot of boxes for a do-all load in this rifle.

  • @davecollins6113
    @davecollins6113 20 дней назад

    Using Partitions for the last 44 yrs, haven't had a reason to change, I never fear a hard quartering shot, a hoop shot or a frontal shot when needed, sometimes that's all you get at a moose or elk, I hunted BC and AB , I didn't know what I'd see for sure, for many years, could have up to all 4 different tags, WT, MD, elk and moose, partitions got it done. Meat loss was something I was willing to sacrifice at times, most of the time, didn't have to.

  • @Tony_Seed
    @Tony_Seed 23 дня назад

    I’ve seen nothing in the internet but videos of these bullets failing in game on hunts and like this But on the videos cutting edge posts their all work miraculously

  • @Gimpinator23
    @Gimpinator23 Месяц назад

    I really wanted my rifle to like the terminal ascent’s. First two shots at 100 yards went through the same hole. 3rd shot was 1.5 inches off. Then I got a 5.5 inch group at 300. Berger 168gr hybrid hunter’s got a 1/2” group at 100 and under an inch at 300, though I realize that was likely a bit of a fluke. Still impressive. Thoroughly impressed with the accuracy of the bergers so I at least have my fallback round if I can’t find a good bonded bullet that my rifle shoots well. Appreciate the content!

  • @Thawhitestguyeva
    @Thawhitestguyeva Месяц назад

    Your shooting 6.5 creedmoor at 20 feet? No shit it went through the blocks

  • @skidmark7845
    @skidmark7845 Месяц назад

    3:04 play back @ .25 the speed

  • @dougkahler7152
    @dougkahler7152 Месяц назад

    Not a very good test when you haven’t got any all copper bullets shush as the Barnes TTSX that happens to be probably the best overall hunting bullet ever designed!

  • @BernardBouchard-qq9kq
    @BernardBouchard-qq9kq Месяц назад

    After watching m60 tracer you see the drop and energy loss at 500m. It's dramatic.

  • @jamesmooney5348
    @jamesmooney5348 Месяц назад

    Hammer Bullets would like your style of testing. I bet if you had time to do testing, they'd may work with you But who knows..... thay have quite a team already Great video

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella Месяц назад

      I have tested a few Hammer bullets and love their performance. Hammer is a great company. I live 20 minutes from their shop.

    • @jamesmooney5348
      @jamesmooney5348 Месяц назад

      @@simplemindedfella Oh! Wow! Cool! They just came out with a tipped absolute hammer in 6.5. That should be a real good!

  • @jamesmooney5348
    @jamesmooney5348 Месяц назад

    Very much agree with what you're saying. I like how the 208 ELDM run in the 308 as well. Not so fast, but it keeps its speed and does a great job. Rogee Hunting out of New Zealand runs the 208 ELDM in a Tikka 300 wsm with fantastic success on even smaller game at distance.

  • @jamesmooney5348
    @jamesmooney5348 Месяц назад

    Great video!

  • @tonymills7883
    @tonymills7883 Месяц назад

    Only a dumbass shoots at a animal at 700yds

  • @ShastaBean
    @ShastaBean Месяц назад

    Those velocities are wild...with how different the two Barnes are! I don't load 6.5 but ~300 fps less velocity...? wow! May I ask you what powder it was and charge?

  • @michaelpeters6659
    @michaelpeters6659 Месяц назад

    you sir are doing the lords work!

  • @chuckfinley3152
    @chuckfinley3152 Месяц назад

    I saw online some hunters in New Zealand wee annealing the tips of match bullets to get better fragmentation at distance

  • @christobessinger105
    @christobessinger105 Месяц назад

    Die goed skiet kak, hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie

  • @wes326
    @wes326 Месяц назад

    All of them do well at ethical hunting distances. 6.5 is best for long-range target shooting. Thanks for sharing.

  • @RoswellNative
    @RoswellNative Месяц назад

    plywood plugs

  • @johngunn4573
    @johngunn4573 2 месяца назад

    You mind sharing your load data for this bullet in .308? Thx

  • @stephensheets1841
    @stephensheets1841 2 месяца назад

    Very encouraging to hear. Was interested in something like this for my son and was concerned the short barrel would be crazy loud. If that's all the velocity you've lost though I'm assuming that at ~20 inches there's no perceivable difference than a long barrel? Plenty of compact 243 youth guns out there but after being next to them at the range, no thank you. Very excited to get a 6.8 going and working up some mild loads for him :)

  • @TheYamaha37
    @TheYamaha37 2 месяца назад

    Bub the first bullet camw out the top and bounced right back at you. It traveled bput 2 or 3 yards an flopped on the ground. Can't see how you missed it

  • @scottscheuerman8714
    @scottscheuerman8714 2 месяца назад

    I bought some of these in 284 diameter for the 280 ai I have built I shot it the other day with hornady sst 154 and it was already starting to group the weight of accubond LR was 150 grain and I was getting velocities of around 2932 fps with the 154 sst

  • @user-ex2st3yw6o
    @user-ex2st3yw6o 2 месяца назад

    I picked up the trim die you recommended. Thank you! Lapua is now making 300 WSM brass so I plan to re-work some down. ADG will be releasing 6.8 Western brass too

  • @guymcree3014
    @guymcree3014 2 месяца назад

    great video. Which would you recommend on black bear within 120 yds?

  • @briankelly2886
    @briankelly2886 2 месяца назад

    What do you plan on shooting with A-Tips besides steel?

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 2 месяца назад

      I find them to work well on big game. I like them better than Berger's.

  • @jk-kr8jt
    @jk-kr8jt 2 месяца назад

    Nosler Partition

  • @djryan8944
    @djryan8944 3 месяца назад

    How was accuracy with this bullet?

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 3 месяца назад

      I ordered a 12 pack, so I only tested their terminal ballistics.

  • @SabertoothDefenseSystems
    @SabertoothDefenseSystems 3 месяца назад

    So after you fire this brass and want to reload it, you should just use an unmodified shell holder and 6.8 western die and shouldn't need to bump the shoulder back again using the modified shell holder, does that sound right?

  • @soundman2604
    @soundman2604 3 месяца назад

    100%

  • @chriswigington1572
    @chriswigington1572 3 месяца назад

    The eldm is more accurate out of my rifle. The sst seem to do a little more damage but I’m going to try the eldm this season

  • @atairuy
    @atairuy 3 месяца назад

    1540 is too low and 3300 way too much, you should test them at normal velocities for these bullets like 2400-3000

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 3 месяца назад

      When trying to test specifically for absolute minimums and maximums, which can be hard, one doesn't try to get anywhere near normal operating ranges. I honestly wish I had the means to move them faster.

  • @Trudeau-is-Stalin
    @Trudeau-is-Stalin 3 месяца назад

    Hit a bone with those bullets and youll see why the accubond is almost 2.5x the price.

  • @PatriceRobert20
    @PatriceRobert20 3 месяца назад

    If a moose don't drop immediatly, it won't go far. Great video. Thank you.

  • @koltenkrystal3828
    @koltenkrystal3828 3 месяца назад

    Really cool to see what they did at ultra low velocity. Thanks for sharing

  • @waterishdrake8693
    @waterishdrake8693 3 месяца назад

    50BMG HE. Works against anything anywhere

  • @tommcfarland5368
    @tommcfarland5368 3 месяца назад

    Almost no neck! Wtf!? And 19 inches of depth? Shannon has these right now, Winchester ranger 556 64 grain.

  • @JohnG975
    @JohnG975 3 месяца назад

    Can you lay out all the bullets you are able to recover so we can see them side by side. Most curious about the low velocity results .

  • @carnage77
    @carnage77 4 месяца назад

    What about 220gr with a reduced load to bring them down to near subs?

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 3 месяца назад

      Yes. I'm not a fan of them in general because of how bad they come apart at higher velocities (even the ELD-X), but in a sub sonic situation, they would work well.

  • @dyouden
    @dyouden 4 месяца назад

    I’ve read online that the 150 and 165 ttsx were designed for the 300 magnums at 2000fps and the 168 and 180 ttsx open at lower velocity at 1600fps. Kind of backwards if you ask me. The 130 ttsx apparently open at 1800 fps. Either way I rarely shoot past 300 yards so all work great in my circumstances. There’s no perfect bullet for every application

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 3 месяца назад

      Badlands Bulldozer 2 is the closest I have come across for one bullet that doses everything well. Even at that, I use a broad selection of bullets depending on what and where I'm hunting.

  • @nootnuh
    @nootnuh 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for this information and all the bullet testing you do. What are your top 3 - 6.5 Creedmoor bullets you recommend for elk?

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 4 месяца назад

      Badlands Bulldozer 2, Hammer Hunter, and Nosler ABLR. If you're not pushing ranges past 400 yards, the Nosler Partition is another good one.

    • @nootnuh
      @nootnuh 4 месяца назад

      Thanks. I should have mentioned that I don’t reload…..yet. What are a couple factory loaded bullets you’d recommend? Thanks for your help.

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 4 месяца назад

      @nootnuh stick with bonded, partitioned, or monolithic for elk. From there, go with what your gun shoots the most accurately.

  • @roncornwall4512
    @roncornwall4512 4 месяца назад

    fyi I'm in Belgrade MT and noticed you are in MT too. If you have any referrals for me to get this work done that would be welcome as well. I shoot out at Logan.

  • @roncornwall4512
    @roncornwall4512 4 месяца назад

    Hello. I have a XBLT Max LR 6.8 Western. This is my first hunting rifle. I would like to have my barrel cut down to 20" and have it prepped for a suppressor. I have harvested 2 nice Mule deer bucks with it but definitely struggle with the 26" barrel length when hunting elk and bear in the mountains. I've had a couple gun shops discourage the idea of having the barrel shortened and they have also said that because it is a fluted barrel suppressor threading will not look very clean. Any comments about this plan would be much appreciated as I am very new to rifle hunting and know very little about ballistics and modifications and how they will affect everything other than is seems there is the issue of powder burn in a shorter barrel but that didn't seem to discourage Simple Minded Fella from his project. I don't currently have plans to do any reloading but have heard that I may need to consider it with this rifle due to concerns that ammunition may be tough to come by in coming years. The only ammunition available locally for me are Winchester Ballistic Silvertip Polymer tip 170 grain rounds and Winchester Copper Impact 162 grain rounds. I am happy with my accuracy out to 430 yards (the furthest I can shoot at my local range) but look forward practicing and going further this year. Fellow range attendees will also appreciate a suppressor set up as I get comments about how loud it is all the time. I've also been researching purchasing a new barrel for it, perhaps a lighter weight and shorter barrel but have not been able to find much information about options with this. Thanks for any and all advice for a newbie. I have much appreciated everyones comments on this thread.

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 4 месяца назад

      I have had no regrets or any issues, having had the barrel on mine cut down. I'm nowhere close to my notes at the moment I don't remember what factory ammo I have tested but it was such insanificant muzzle velocity losses when shooting my full length barrel compared to my buddy's 20 inch is why I had mine cut down to eighteen and a half. 20 seems to be a sweet spot. I got more loss of muzzle velocity per inch between 18.5 and 20 than 20 to 26. 20 seems to be a sweet spot for the 6.8 Western, and 26 is just too long. The gun Smith I took my rifle, too said the same thing in regards to the muzzle break looking odd, but when everything was done it looks great, and no one has ever noticed and/or said anything about it looking odd, they just noticed it's a short barrel and want to know more about the gun.

  • @thedirtygot9570
    @thedirtygot9570 4 месяца назад

    I get them to open at 1700fps and above

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 4 месяца назад

      I like to keep it 200 fps or so faster in any recommendations because gelatin is not an animal, and not all animals have the same density of hide/bone/meat and such. Yes, 10% gelatin is the standard set based on averages in testing but is not 100% accurate. (No test medium is)

  • @jefferywilliams7687
    @jefferywilliams7687 4 месяца назад

    The Swift Scirocco II is outstanding as well. It is my go to in a 340 Weatherby Magnum. It is extremely tough and accurate bullet.

  • @caesar5555
    @caesar5555 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video. Let me get this straight. You turned to the manufacturers of the products and asked them advice on what would be the best environment to test their products in. They of course gave you the most honest answers to risk their product not shining and losing customers. I guess you are hunting inside the meat processing facility after the bones and hide were taken off the animal, you just shoot the meat (before that you make sure that the meat is thinned to match the 10% ballistic gel). Makes perfect sense LOL

  • @AikensLake701
    @AikensLake701 4 месяца назад

    What sizing die do you use?

    • @simplemindedfella
      @simplemindedfella 4 месяца назад

      I shave two-thenthousands or so off a shell holder and go directly to a 6.8 Western die. You have to bump the shoulder back further to get it to chamber. Having a go-no go gauge is best to test.