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Thanks for the test One thing I want to understand is -why there are so many tests on 'impacting at muzzle velocity' ? No one is hunting with the rifle stuck on the animal, especially with a 300PRC - why not test a reduced load to 2200-2400fps to see actual expansion at range rather than what it would look like had someone used their rifle as a speargun?

Im running 75 eldm at 2960 fps and they work absolutely amazing on deer ,coyotes wolves and 2 cow elk.

Are these CE bullets shoot (group) easier than other copper bullets? Thanks

Ok, maybe you can help me? I am having a hard time getting copper bullets (CX, TTSX, Hammers & Mono FX) to group. Any suggestions or tips? Thanks!

Great video! Thanks

Great real world discussion. My son and I have extensive experience on big game...moose, elk and whitetails. We hunt northern Ontaroo... and call in our bulls. So very controlled hunting scenarios. Weve taken 40 moose going back 40 years... and recently ...10 elk kills in 10 yrs..... all but 10 or so with our 270s and about 10 with our ruger 35 whelen. For moose we heavily favor the 270 and have landed on the Barnes tssx 130 gr. We have killed MANY with it. We get complete passthroughs on 90% of harvested animals. Dead right there, 6 ft straight down dead. Recovered bullets are magazine quality mushrooms. Virtually ZERO shock damaged meat. Every elk we've killed with that combo has been a complete passthrough. Ive also killed several big bulls with 140gr accubonds. Also very effective. Almost all recovered from moose in skin on far side. Textbook bonded bullet performance and great penetration.. Re Whelen ... 225 gr accubond is impressive on big bull elk. Emphatic kills. The 225 grain TBBC I find TOO stiff. Passthroughs on all animals shot....with some run. 200 and 250 gr corelokts work great too.... id say about the perfect combo for deer in that caliber. For reference... we use the high shoulder shot in virtually all situations except for 250+ yds... which is pretty rare. At that range we shade back a few inches to ensure double lung. Our goal is to drop game where it stands and eliminate long drags and removals. Especially with moose and big elk. We consider the 270/130gr Barnes combo the best and use it primarily for everything. But I like to experiment more than the boy... and love my whelen... and have found the accubond hard to beat. Looking forward to using it on an elk here shortly with the 200 gr barnes I bought. That bullet with the big frontal diameter of the 35 oughta be VERY impressive. We sight in 3" high at 100yds with our guns to best apply the MPBR concept and it has never let us down. And yes.. I actually try and use a variety of bullets... keeps it fun and I like to evaluate real world performance. At our ranges...hunting situations.. zero issue with interchanging...ever.

Accuracy is low down the list. Otherwise black powder muzzle loaders, handguns and bows shouldn't hunt. Too much sniper mentality - get in close, do some actual hunting.

ABLR all the way.

Actual tests!!! Much better than just a bunch of talk. Thanks!

Thumbs up for the music alone :D

Eldxplode should be the name of those crap bullets

i have had very good luck with 150 grain ballistic tip in 308. leaves about a half dollar size exit wound and a blind person could follow the blood trail.

Have you accuracy tested these yet? If so how did they perform and what twist rate. I have a 1/8 twist that I feel should be good, but I was wondering about other people's experiences. Thanks!

Has any one noticed how Remington, will not sell Core Lokt bullets in bulk, for reloaders? Remington , a one Stellar Company is a Discrace. They are not Serious about regaining the Consumers Trust, nor Making the 700 rifle GREAT AGAIN!

I dont like Hornady's line of bullets, very expensive ELDX blow up to pieces. I'm with Bonded line of hunting bullets.

Wish you'd say how far away u are. I've seen several of your videos and u never say how far out u are. Doesn't do me anygood

Have you ever tested Cayugas I haven’t found one legit test with these bullets.

1st, Terminal Ascent is one of, if not the best hunting bullets ever created. I have taken elk with it from my 300wsm from 40yds - 490yds. All had perfect straight line penetration, the bullet held together at 40yds with my magnum, and the BC on the 200gr 30cal is 0.608. I have used other bonded bullets that worked almost as well, like the Norma BondStrike which is also very good, but I have had bullets deflect once inside the animal and expanded. Nothing major, still one shot kills. The Fed TA drills straight-line through the animal, through bone, fluid, no deflection. If you shoot the exit like I do, you can be certain the TA will follow the trajectory it entered the animal on. I have not had a bullet so devastating. Also, Berger bullets suck ass for hunting. I have personally seen a 180gr 308 hit an elk in a rib at 200yds and completely fragment. It did not penetrate more than an inch or so, skin and hide blew everywhere, and the animal started to run. A 2nd shot took it down. Neither bullet penetrated, both fully fragmented with jacket and lead everywhere, just like your video showed. It took two shots from a magnum and left the meat heavily contaminated with lead and copper fragments throughout the meat. Literally terrible bullet performance I also watched a white tail shot with a Berger, 308, 168gr. The animal turned when the shot was taken, the bullet entered the stomach cavity high, in front of the left hind quarter headed towards the left hindquater exiting diagonally out the back left hind quarter. Not a great shot to begin with, but the Berger finished the poor shot. It pentrated about half way the violently grenaded and litterally shredded both hind quarters, blood shot everything, and left copper jacket and lead powder/fragments everywhere. It was a total loss of the hind quarters and half of both backstraps from the Berger detonation. A bonded or copper bullet would have wasted some meat on the poor shot, but the harvest would still be successful and the animal still eaten. The Berger was the reason for near total loss on the meat. Berger bullets are for paper only!

I ened up buying a 6.5prc and loaded these using 153gr A-tip data. I stopped at a chrono’d 2,950fps. I’ve taken two deer with it and it is almost too destructive (and thats coming from someone who swears by match/fragmenting bullets for hunting!) I’m confident it would rip the front half of a gel block into shreds, its that ridiculous.

Our tests with factory PPU 139 GRN, Gave near 30 cal. expansion. I believe , PPU 156 Grn may be even better. PPU Makes their cup and core Soft points with a generous amount of lead exposed at the tip. You 6.5x55 fans , " WILL GET GREAT TRACKING BLOOD TRAIL", Should you double Lung a Deer that runs off. The 160 Hornady may be quite well at 2500 fps or better.

There are many guys that have taken game world wide with the scenars!

Hola ! No se entiende un carajo lo que hablas ! Cual fue la velocidad y penetracion a velocidad reducida y a velocidad estandar ??

My rifle shoots the 127 grain 2850 and the ttsx at 2980 out of a 22 inch 6.5 creed you are making me want to try the cx bullets. If your numbers are right im going to get 3000 plus out of the cx.

Americans finally discovering the potential of the 160grain that the 6,5x54 mannlicher schoenauer discovered over 100 years ago

All 3 are excellent choices.

I like the .308 for front surface area compared the other two and for heavier grain projectile. And wide variety and availability of factory loads for what need you have.

The original barnes x-bullets were a 110 alloy copper. Softer than what they are using now. I know this cause my father helped randy brooks develop that bullet after usimg the original design and getting no expansion on a caribou. Still have buckets of them. Ill use them every day over the new tsx and ttsx

I love this testing , the high velocity of 3100 seems a spec on the slow side, you mind sharing load data ?

... poor penetration and bullets shedding their jackets in the gel ... OK for a varmint bullet but not for big game hunting

looks like you need a new table there bud. haha

Well said i have 7mm08,3006,35 whelen and i hust got a 308 use the same shell holder exept for my 6.5 PRC but just doing loads for my new ruger 308 and season my barrel just desper to see how good is my first 308.

You have the right title.

Cuantas pulgadas mide el largo del caño ?? 22 o 24 ??

Why does that middle one look like the lead is way off center? Is that just the camera or was the core shifted that much??

Thats super slow and they are meant to hit hide and rib cage, not soft gel

Fantastic performance! The Speer 140 Gold Dot should be devastating on deer out of a 6.5 Creedmoor, 260 Rem, 6.5x55! Your videos are excellent!!!

I'm a big "no" for a non-expanding bullet. I have a load for a 156 gr Norma Oryx from my .260 REM that, if I ever find a moose, will be my choice. Of course, they disconinued the design. :-(

ELDX not menrtioned in this vid. Interesting... Mulling over ELDX vs. ABLR at 6.5 cm, 308 win, 300PRC @ distance (sub 2850fps velocities). Have full confidence in TBT as they shot well in 308 but trying to dumb it down for good performance on deer deer AND heavier elk..

Great infor! Sadly i have been reloading since the 80's and alway firm believer in cup and core bullets, one i favor was 170gr round nose soft point out of 308 and 06 running around 2700fps max did beautiful on deer and elk out to 400 yards. Though now days bonded and all copper bullets are starting to take the show!

Excellent video.

Funny that Hornady takes credit for discovering the tips melting/deforming, a Nosler rep told me about that issue in the late 1990's.

Good practical information

Just bought 3 factory loaded boxes of these by Swift Ammunition Co. can’t wait to try them so I’m glad to see you video using the bullet. I’d like to eventually load some of these myself.. Glad I could find you videos on them! What powder and brass did you use for your test loads?

I have a question. Can a gun smith shorten my long range hells canyon max long range? I am wanting to get a suppressor but its already 26 inches and afraid that its going to Be way too long to hunt with walking through the trees. Be like 32-34 in barrel. Wanting to cut it down to like 22 inches. Thanks.

This is a great video, thank you for making/sharing!

What is the closest you have shot animals with it? How does it do with close bone shots?

Glad to hear that i just sighted my ott 6 with it

Late to the vid, but you should try the Accubond LR. It is designed to open up at lower velocities at long range. But then, it might not do so well at higher velocities. I'll keep looking for a vid on these.

Don't hunt any big game with these. Probably illegal and definitely unethical.

Have you considered doing any gel testing of the Apex Outdoors mono bullets? I think your approach to this testing is far more valuable and realistic than most of the impact testing I have seen. Keep up the good work! :)