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what is the difference between Duelist of Eden and One Step from Eden?

I’m so fucking pissed and sad that the story mode is left unfinished! The story mode NEEDS to be fucking completed god dammit!😡😭

I love playing this game 🎮🎯👏🏾

Even ignoring game play stuff, rev 2 is just so much cooler than strive. If rev 2 turns the cool factor up to 11, strive brings it down to a moderate 7.

As a Potemkin main, I beg to differ.

Good vid, please do one for gg2. Mad underrated game

Aside from Danger Time obviously being an annoyance for tournament setting, I think YRC is the only blight on this game. I don't know whats the better theoretical nerf - making YRC 50 meter, or making it not slow down the whole screen.

Nice to see someone migrate from +R over to Xrd. For me it was the other way around actually. Now that every one of the big three GG have rollback there is something cool for everyone. Love to see it. Enjoyed the video <3

Plus r and Rev2 peak of the franchise in my opinion, even so I don't think strive is a bad game but it definitely doesn't give me the same excitement and satisfaction seeing high level matches as with the other guilt gear games

That slayer is kinda cringe :)

+R is cool as fuck, but I’m pretty committed to just playing Ino in every game and Hcl Frc Air dash is real nightmare shit. So xrd is my favorite for sure, all gain no pain lol. Maybe I’ll learn someday.

Peak guilty g- DANGER TIME FUUUUC

Blazblue next maybe 😏 But really GG +R or actually Accent core plus was my first fighting game and to this day the hypest FG in my opinion and a game I will play for the rest of my life and if you're looking for a game with similar DNA to old Guilty gear then BB is that and more every character in that game is unique and plays their own game so every match fells like it's a new game and while that can be applied to a lot of fighting games only games like Blazblue and old Guilty gears ( not strive) reach that level of..... Expression 😶 ( I hate that term but I think its the truth) if you think that BB is too balanced for you then try a match against Izanami

fuck danger time

Ngl, feels nice seeing someone like Elphet in this game. I feel like most of the time people go "ah, shame her design is worse in strive, but good thing they changed her gameplay for the better now" (because people hated how op she was in xrd). I actually don't fully agree with that. Well, the design thing yeah, but I feel like she lost everything that made her kit interesting in this game, she kinda became a high low rekka factory in strive lmao Tho on that note, I am actually sorta mixed on the character kits in this game. Potemkin as ya said is one example, tho I also not the craziest about characters like Slayer and Axl in this game, even Johnny tbh (even if ofc the latter is much stronger in this game, he felt more interesting in +r to me), in general +r feel like everyone had their most varied kit, helped only by stuff like force breaks, and the mixups the old roman cancel system allowed But stuff like the new items Faust pull, and the new Grinder mechanic with Ky do help, and I do enjoy characters like Sin, answer and Ram, tho I do also miss Zappa, Aba, Kliff. Overall I do say I enjoy xrd2 tho. I don't like stuff like the yrc slowdown on neutral, I like the mixups and quick desicions the old system led to more, and I can understand why people often vring up danger time as a really bad mechanic (even if I am mostly fine qith it as a casual player), but still overall enjoy good ol guilty gear fun, even if I say I like +r more. Glad ya are enjoying the game, looking forward to ya trying Ky and Elphet more :] Also huh. Didn't knew xrd had that better on crouching thing, I knew third strike had it

My favorite GG game and my favorite fighting game even though I am not that good at it.

Yeah Xrd is pretty cool, I'm focusing mainly on +R and BBCF2 so i'm a little worried do to something like Sajam trying to c.S on +R, I mean Venom Dark Angel command got reversed and Faust 2H got changed but even if i play a new character i probably have to deal with characters like Johnny and Potemkim that are pretty different across versions and what is plus or minus on block so i can punish accordingly, it seems harder to remember on two really similar games. Yeah, i'm probably just gonna be an online warrior and this won't really matter but this just bugs me, y'know.

Hell yeah brother

Bummer

I was the same played for 20 hours then dropped it, came back while later to try a different character and loved it, every charater feels different and plays completely differently, so it turns out i wasnt playing the right character. Also if you want skill expression go play tekken or something

very lore accurate

My favorite was the "Megumin" build i made for the wizard rabbit, turning her special into a nuke that wiped massive chunks of boss health every 10 seconds.

Really enjoyed this review and I have to see you have become one of if not my favorite fgc player to watch ive enjoyed all ur content including when you look into other generes just wanted to leave my thx

Thank you for this information. I clicked here to hear about TFH before buying it. You just saved me from giving $40 to Modus. Yeah, I was willing to pay the full price because I had heard it was such a great game when it came out. No longer buying the Avatar game either.

The Metroidvania you mentioned was already made. It's called Mortal Kombat Mythologies. It was just poorly executed.

The air parry isn’t the hard part. It’s the crouching low into lariat I’m impressed by

I think requiring a certain level of execution is good but, the busier i get the more i understand why people want fighting games to be more accessible. I only have so much time to practice and lab, so many series make me end up saying "welp back to Smash" after like 1 week. Thankfully I'm doing better at sticking with SF6 and Strive

I guess the solution is to have better training moves so that people can build their skills faster.

Cool story, I’ll be over here playing GranBlue

The funny thing is that in your example Hayao not doing something that hard to execute if you know the timing of air parries for air tatsu This moment is pure game knowledge. Thing that keeps people away from fighting games is very high entry execution barrier. My favorite example is smash. Smash on high lvl of play is very execution heavy game but you can have fun right from the start using all character base tools with no additional executional knowledge required. In classical fg even simple task such as do consistent Dp is challenge by itself for every new to fg player.

Personally, the aspect of fighting games that I enjoy the most is the fast-paced 1-on-1 mental dialogue that isn't seen much in other genres. I'm not the kind of person who feels that “doing hard stuff is fun”, so execution often just feels like an additional cognitive tax or source of variance that obstructs the parts of the game that I do care about or find rewarding. In that way, it only really serves to detract from the overall experience for me. Which is not to say that other people shouldn't enjoy it - that would be ridiculous - but just wanted to throw it out there that people might enjoy some aspects of the core FG package and not others. Granted, I'll still put up with it in games like +R and BBCF, since I still enjoy what they bring to the table over more streamlined games, but it's a lot easier (for me at least) to feel motivated to stick with it when the rewarding bits are consistent rather than variable.

Great video and I agree fully. I really struggle to enjoy games with low execution requirements and direction + skill/special buttons. They’re just not engaging to me after a week or two. I’m not saying they’re easy, they just aren’t as fun to me. A lot of the fun and challenge is in the motions and execution… I totally understand the dev’s push to get more people to buy their game. I think better single player content is really the answer, but in the meantime, at least new players can still go back and try 3S, MVC2, GG AC+R, Rev2 or whatever else

Time to pull out battle drill 1A!!!

I've said it before, but nine times out of ten when I talked to people who bounce off of fighting games? It wasn't because the inputs were too hard or they dropped their combo. It's because they went online, got face rolled, and weren't given any input on what they could have done different other then "Yeah that sucks buddy. Oh well, back in the queue." I do think that it's good modern fighting games are trying to be more accessible, but lowering the execution ceiling isn't how it's gonna happen.

This is why I ultimately think we are witnessing the slow decline of the genre.

Thank NorCal for pushing the "accessibility" crutches, imagining that sales would boom. It may not be obvious but, they pushed this and tried to convince players for nearly 2 decades, that it would increase sales and grow the FGC. The first to push out this trash idea was SF2HDRemix. Everyone went back to real ST because no one asked for a dumbed down version. Still, one failure wasn't enough and they had to fail harder. They sold the idea to every publisher across the board, despite repeated failure. Then they went full out and came out with SF5, and shills, to this day, will convince you that the problem was the lack of one player content and "the launch," when, in reality, the problem, from day one, was the gameplay, beginning with 8 frames of input lag because they purposefully tried to remake SF to be more like a 3d game with frame-counting to compensate for the lack of real time visual reactions. Sadly, there's an entire generation(the participation-trophy generation) that were led to believe that execution was arbitrarily challenging and a gatekeeper to playing the games, "for real." This, of course, was just the "call of the scrub" but refined for a new and less analytical generation who were looking for crutches, not challenges, but also wanting the same prestige that competitive games brought to players. There are levels to these games and in prior eras, if there wasn't any competitive execution bars, there was no reason to have a competition on it. Anyone can perform and because of that, no one cares. Those were called "casual fighters" and that wasn't offensive, back when, because the delineation was clear. Execution and challenge is why SF remained the actual king of fighting games in competition until SF5, when they threw away their actual selling point over their competition because NorCal ideas were just bad, once you analyzed it to the fullest extent. They've been lost for decades and Capcom should really get out of NorCal. Their fighting game ideas have been regressive for far too long. It will take until SF7 to get back to serious competitive form. The NEW thing is to pretend that guessing was always a part of Street Fighter. lol It started with pretending that all street fighter games are different to make excuses for SF5. If you think execution is a "gatekeeper" it's because you aren't good at the games. Imagining that you are good because you can make the right call is not the same as performing. Boxers aren't good simply because they can see an opening and attempt to strike. They need all the other factors like speed and accuracy. If you complain about execution then you only like non-competitive or casual fighting games. We wasted years and tons of growth, chasing an imaginary fanbase , following the "accessibility" pipe-dream. It's good to see that those pushing it have finally begun to realize what smarter-types understood, 20 years ago.

James Chen has a very similar idea to help bring more people in. He also talks about drip feeding mechanics/moves. And Gerald from Core-A-Gaming talks about Sweeps & Throws which is a game he came up with to allow students(?) to start playing/enjoying a fighting game without being overwhelmed.

Exacution is a form mechanical balance, they added the Swiss cheese lightinglegs legs special to wolverine in umvc3 to nerf his mobility , making him way less scrubby and more precision based, the fact shoryuken has a forward imput means atleast one frame of risk in neuuteal as opposed a charge flash kick coming straight out of a block, it’s what makes guile a defence monster and Ken a more risk reward character. With one button specials either u gotta nerf the iconic property of the move or deal with frame 1 aping pike driver macro .

I played the hell out of borh sf2 sf2 hyper in the snea to me back then those games had infinite single player content just loved playing vs tha ai as well as humans.

While the air parries and walk up 720s does address your point about high execution, you do know that the last, most hyped, most talked about part of Hayao's performance did not require high execution. In fact it was a simple 1 button press. It only required a simple knowledge of that normal is airborn and Ken's attack will whiff. So that part actually contradicts your point. What makes the last part work is the mental stack. Hayao's ability to retain that information (Hugo's normal) that has long been ignored by the general viewer and if not even all pro including 3s god - JWong. Nothing to do with execution. Yes, the interaction BEFORE it needed high execution. That helped BUILD the drama/hype. But the finality itself? Nope. Just a simple timed 1 button press. Regarding your point in general... I have nothing against high execution. It does add to the mystique of not only the game but the pro themselves. It is like watching a wide receiver make a one handed catch. It is amazing and entertaining because you can't believe some one can do it especially at that critical high-pressure moment. But let us not forget that high execution is only one aspect. There are other aspects that can make a game entertaining to play and watch. SF1 has one of the hardest execution of all SF games. But no one wants to play or watch that game.

New games are hard but in a different way. The execution is looser but the length of the execution is drawn out. They also remove things like partitioning in new street fighters.

Executions came from making the arcade game hard so you can waste more quarters learning how to play, it was a business model had nothing to do with anything else, the strategy should be the focus of fighting games, not wasting hours of your life learning executions

Fatal Fury City of the Wolves is bringing back execution. They haven’t forgotten. Great video!

I miss SF4 Smug.

and people will still refer to them as gatekeeping as they do not want to go over the hassle of practice in execution.

Yup!

Execution belongs in all games. It's what you're looking to make with your game. KI2013 has pretty low of an physical execution barrier you can mash out a combo with a classic anime fighter style of light->medium->heavy->ender/extension. That game is a mental battle and infinite skill curve though combo breaker is a simple layer that lets you get your turn back by learning your opponents habits and mixups, to boot it's just pressing punch+kick of equal strength and most of it isn't too restrictive apart from manuals. Counter breaker is an equally powerful thing that lets your opponent think they're getting their turn back. To top off the sound, and visual design also contribute to the hype of these moments with having a lockout symbol if one gets counter breakered or an explosion if a combo breaker works. Not to mention something people miss. There alot of old games with high execution barriers but are thrown to the wayside and there's even modern high execution games like KOF and right before strive we had xrd. Alot of what people want or pretend to want still exists... To answer your final question of onboarding I do think single player and "arcade" content should be the way to get new players in. SF6 does a fine job gameifying the mechanics like the pizza minigame for motion inputs.

Sucks that mvc2 collection has one button super and specials… even offline for tournaments

There was someone that retweeted James basically saying it was a shitty take and that execution should basically be taken out of fighting games. It was the scrubbiest quote I've ever seen and it wasn't a troll. That person was doubling, tripling down, etc. in the replies to his retweet. It was wild.

That's bizarre because that clip had nothing to do with execution and everything to do with a read and game knowledge. James is a very dense as usual.