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There will be compromises but for me the original "Kent " wheels are desirable . Will you, do you have the steel sliding roof on yours ? And lets hope you don't need to remove the tanks !!!

Excellent content! Great to see you back. :-)

From a near perfect Esprit to a Macca and back again. What a journey. Had all sorts in my garage, but my mint/original TVR Cerbera stirs the soul like nothing else, so it stays and I never even dream of the unthinkable.

Hey FYI with the wheels again, I was just looking and I think what they might have done is just a custom version of some OEM jaguar rims, as I found one marked as Jaguar XJS style of all things, and its like a flat version of what's on the car, like I think what they did is just made a custom version probably using the broadspeed's setup, of tire, depth, and all that as the base and how funny is it that I found that simply because I always get the Nomanclanture mixed up, and keep thinking XJS instead of XJC like put in NEW Classic JAGUAR XJS Style, 6x15 Wheel Fits For XJ Series 1-3 Rims JAXJ615 on the flea as old' archy luxury used to call it, and that looks like it just flat, and with the inserts painted black, instead of the bronze they used for the stripe so they might have just rebarrled the thing, and put in a deeper dish, styled like the old to reach the bolts, so it should give you a design prototype to work off of, as its definitely a custom version of the factory OEM rim that they probably made just for the show after all british leeland was sponsoring the show and had them and the rover SD1's, Triumph's, and all that running around, would make sense that they would do something like that for them, like it might have been a 3 piece job which would also explain why its been such a pain to replicate, it might have literally been a factory one off made just for the car, and could explain some of the wonky driving physics knowing leeland back then if they didnt do them right after all its come back to longbridge! ITS ON STRIKE lol

There were more than one coupe done, a friend of mine had the red with black roof one.Identical to the steed one. About 1980 he lived in South Wales and had the car for a few years. Ironically he had the original x pack Escort featured at the start of the Minder program, before the Jag!.

There is something you guy's a re over looking. Back in the 70's 18 and 19 inch wheels did not exist outside of custom made race wheels. Back then up until the late 90's is 15 or 16 inch wheels only. I'm not counting the small car wheels. So given the purist that Robin is, you'd be upsetting him if you get it wrong by just overlooking history.

A difficult balance between authenticity, availability and cost. Ultimately you should go with what you’re happy with but for me, a smaller diameter wheel closer in design to the original GKN’s with higher profile rubber keeps it in period & avoids the incongruity of a larger diameter/wider rim with a very low profile tyre, particularly for this road car iteration.

Excellent video & excellent cars i also own a Ford Streetka Pininfarina, on my you tube there's a couple of videos, best wishes & great upload.

GT Spirit scanned a "standard" XJC - a friend of mine's - wonder where they took the measurements for the extensions

What a great idea

Always go with getting the car driving right.

Not the same wheels as the Avenger's car. Personally, I'd go for the same.

I’ve just Go**gled for images of the original car in action as filmed in the tv series ie stills taken from the tv film. There’s absolutely no doubt - the original car as it appears in the tv series has a beige interior!😊

Yeah smaller (17in?) wheels and more rubber to fill the arches. Your back will thank you and it will look more period correct.

Sorry about the expense but it’s got to be a beige interior!

Perhaps you could “reverse engineer” by settling on the tyre profile first then find /have made the wheel to fit? I suspect that the availability of tyre size is going to more restricted than the availability of the wheel as you can ultimately have the wheel made but you can’t have the tyre made. How about making up plywood templates of the various tyre profiles and trying them under the wheel arches to settle on the look? That’s got to be cheaper than buying several sets of tyres to try out! I suggest concentrating on tyre profiles with a higher sidewall, as anything too low profile is simply going to look too modern on a 70’s era car.

Yes. Next stop, Vintage tyres to talk about availability.

Hmm the wheels do work, and they look like their off of the race car I pointed out, but I think if you go that way you gotta keep it red, as red and black work well together, green and black, not so much, and it looks like it might give the new fenders abit of trouble with the clearance like it might need more backspacing, which is a shame as they look geniuenly good, and I wouldnt want to go smaller, but the smaller you go rim size wise, the more cushion and shielding the suspension has from the bumps in the road as you up the tire size to match the space left in the wheel well but conversely with really large tires like this, you almost want a thin tire wall so it keeps the grip to the road given the pressure to space index honestly above all else, I would take what he knows, and use that and then experiment and that race car actually has the same size front tires my car is running with 18's, and that is a stock car from 3 years ago, well 4 now actually also the wheels on the model when you look at the photo look to be a little off, and the car sits differently, its one inch above the front rims, but jacked up two inches in the back, plus the painted effects at 12:50, theirs actual painted stripes in the rims, and a faint bronzing to the inner rims in general like almost a twisler type effect, and the rims on the actual car are about an inch bigger than the ones on the model, like the model looks closer to the race car here, its more square in the photo also maybe you need to have a word with aston martin, and ask them for a deep dish version of the rims they used in 1976, as they look damn close, like look up ASTON MARTIN FACTORY 15"x7" LAGONDA ALLOY WHEELS RECONDITIONED on ebay, those look like a non deep dish version of them with less slots and personally I would just leave the bumpers alone, as the chrome looks good on it either that or fiberglass it but paint it gloss to keep that shine, maybe even fiberglass it but keep the overriders as it looks like its missing something also by the way with what I said of the lotus and putting the elise engine in it with the bond esprit, the original engine those cars had, the K series from rover was made and designed around simplicity, and they dramatically simplified the wiring harness and the instrument cluster for it to run off of one plug vs apparently, a full hundred for the one off of the esprit, atleast the 1990s one, as the books from 98' so if you go that route you might have to replace the instrument cluster with the one off the elise, which was made by a specific company in kent apparently if I'm remembering it correctly think like the unit you saw on the caterhams, as i bet its the same group, and caterham might be a good source for an adaptive plug in and play wiring harness too given the nature of how they make those also it seems like the elise in a way was kind of a remade esprit for simplicity and modern production standards, not explicitly said in the book but it kinda seems like it also extremely cheap, as I saw one for 13 thousand pounds on the Co UK version of E-bay, while here its 35K plus for a latter american spec one with the toyota motor, they put in to counter the weight the added safety equipment and changes to the body as I get the feeling they went away from Bonded aliumnium to straight wielded for our safety standards, which added to it like it did the renault sport spider, its competitor that richard hammond actually brought up when talking about his past in an interview I saw recently as he worked for Renault before men and motors, and mentioned the sheer failure of that car given its close release to the elise and that construction change made it slower than the elise by a considerable margin, even though literally the same company made the chasis, it was just one was bonded with glue and then fasteners, the elise, the other wielded, which adds a ton of weight apparently which might explain why the bond vanquish is the same way, as they took the production methods from Lotus, and somehow that thing weighed like 4,000 pounds, and yet its made out of alumiumn, like how does that work, turns out that's how which might explain why I remember harry bringing up how nice the original elise was with the old engine, despite it only being a 130 horses, not too far off of the one for the original Esprit really granted those could have been mystical ones where it was said to be double what it actually was, which would explain the performance figures with its proported 160, and what everyone says of them now, which would put it 40 over and also with the esprit, the 1990's one, Tavarish had one in and was trying to fix it, and he gave up, as he kept finding glue, fasteners, glue and fasteners, and it was very much built like a delorean with wood and everything which apparently was built in the lotus factory with the first ones, and was literally just a turned around Esprit with the engine in the trunk, hence the weird a arm design its got that's more suited to the front with the steering, than the rear where the power goes and that was an 89/90 refit car, the one with the, I wouldnt say ugly, but lacking in beauty new version of it with the worked over body that eventually got turned into the V8 so you might run into that with the original depending how they did it, like their might legit be plywood in there holding the body together which you most certainly wouldnt expect with a 1990 car like that, but it had only been a few years since the delorean failure and if it worked their was no reason to change it, given they were never designed for long term service and replacibility granted lotus with the S1 was built when Rolls Royce owned the company, so it might share more with the ash frames and the like of that more than anything else, like an old derby bentley

why wreck a beautyfull car !!! to make a fugly eyesore !

Thanks for the info! I appreciate it.

Agree with most on here 17 maximum and the right design otherwise don’t bother 😅

XJ6 C in my opinion is one of the most beautiful cars ever designed! Good luck with your work👍🏼👍🏼

Don't like the wheels, the black middle looks wrong, needs more chrome and more shape. Also agree 17in dia with higher profile tyre, say 50 or 60% would be better. Not whitewalls though!

I would stick with the original look wheels that looks perfect 👍

Wheels a a bit American hot rod looking.

If you want a Steed car I'd say you deffo want Steed car wheels 💯

A friend of mine who is an excellent artist painted the Steed car on my bedroom wall almost full size . Now covered .Some day someone will find it. My 90y old father still lives in there . Lovin this 😊

I think the wheels on Steads Jag look better tbh or some old skool wolfrace wheels

Can't wait to see how this turns out - can't you do this project any quicker??? 😅

Definitely 17 with bigger aspect tyre 16 s back in the day was a very big wheel when most cars had 13 or 14 in wheels

I gather that you are just trying to get the offsets ,height and widths right, and are going to get the original Steed style wheels custom made , which, for a replica will be ideal. In my opinion, I would go for 17 inch , that size wont really stand out much as being larger than whatever size was on the Steed car , which I'm guessing were 15 inch ? , or ,go for 18's if tyre availability dictates. I'd want as much sidewall as possible for a more comfortable ride , and for looking more correct. Although, I was thinking about the wheels on the other chaps car , if the wheel centres were silver, they'd resemble the alloy wheels that were on the Jag XJ13 , which look good , but, are they available in 17 or 18 inch ? By the way, did you consider that Porche "Brewster Green " that I suggested a while back ? 🙂👍

I think you will need to work from the pictures for the wheels. The Steed wheels were unique. You can see them on the race car 001 at the launch which is on RUclips. These are the launch wheels that were later used on the Steed car. Unlike the wheel modelmania has, the Steed car wheels are alloy. The wheel modelmania has is from 001 but later when they were changed from alloy to Magnesium and painted black (you can't polish magnesium) and changed both in design and offset and had slots cut into them for brake cooling. So that wheel won't really give you exactly what you need and its better to work from pictures. Both wheels were made by GKN (the original testing was done on BBS but as they were German, GKN were asked to make some bespoke wheels). So the only set of Steed wheels that exist to that design and offset are on the Steed car as they were taken off the race car 001 once it moved to Magnesium. The two 77 cars, one of which is 003 that you went to see, were made by Speedline and were 19 inch. The 19 inch was to stop the tyres rotating on the rims which was a big issue with cross-ply slicks and 600bhp by then. (you can tell the original wheels as they have four clamps on them to hold the tyres on and stop slipping) Sadly the wheels on 003 have been changed (by Image I think though I am not sure) as the tyres were made especially by Dunlop (nobody had 19 inch wheels then) and are not available. JDHT wanted to use the car for demonstrations so had some wheels made to fit tyres that were available (Avons I think) but the offset both front and rear is wrong as ModelMania has correctly said. Originally the centres of the Speedlines were gold but then were painted black as the brake dust from the water cooled brakes turned them black anyway. The only place to see the original wheels and offsets for the 77 cars is on the other 77 car, 004 which is still entirely original. The front is not nearly as inset and the rear misses the arch - though not by much. The problem you have with what you have done with your car for clearance is that not enough metal has been removed from the rear wings. There are no wheel liners or the wheels would foul the arches on the front. But you will need to modify the front suspension to allow for the different offset to avoid bump steer. If you want the car to actually perform you will need to start making modifications as per Broadspeed and change the radius arm for a link that does not twist the suspension as you will lose contact patch on a wide tyre otherwise. Broadspeeds have no bushes at al and are metal to metal rose jointed everywhere. One final point, the arches you have are the 77 arches that are designed for the Speedline 19 inch wheels and are not the same as the arches on the Steed car. The arches you have are a bit more aggressive and less rounded and a bit bigger than the Steed car. You mentioned the inboard rear brakes. Obviously inboard brakes are a big advantage due to unsprung weight. There are heat issues for the diff particularly - which are worse on a Broadspeed due to power and weight than they are on say a lightweight e type which has the same system. You will see on a lightweight e type either a bootlid vent or on the earlier cars just a propped open bootlid to let the heat out. Broadspeeds had to have fans and water cooling to improve this and avoid cooking the diff. That was a problem largely solved and did not really contribute to the unreliability which was either down to the DFV dry sump pump which could not cope with the amount of oil or the magnesium uprights which Jaguar would not homologate to improve and were not strong enough. That said you will see on the inside of 003 you looked at, a big diff temperature gauge in the middle.

WheelMania seem to be the YT builders choice and go to guys for wheels...

Been looking foe something like this for a decade!

If it is a replica, the discussion about the wheel size is not there. It should be like the original. So if the original ones were 16", then they should be 16". Problem will be to get tires for that. So you might go 17". I think 19" is too large.

Hi from NZ .I see that you are building a Broadspeed Coupe look-a-like. I had one made from a Fibersport kit and put it on an XJ6 series 2. It is a short wheel base car so the dimensions are as the coupe but as I didn’t like the look of the rear arches hanging over the rear doors I had the rear doors welded up so I have a home made coupe. As for wheels, I spoke to the owner of a proper Broadspeed in Oz (since sold) who said the tyres were not available now (2005) so I went for 18” made for me by Simmons (in Oz), 9” front and 11” rear. Tyres are 245x40 front and 285x35 rear. The front air dam is too low for a road car so I had it cut down by a fibreglass boat builder friend. The Australian Jaguar Magazine wrote and article on the car in edition 129, worth a look.

The wheels look good, but the steed wheels would finish the car and make it complete. Love the content and asking us for an opinion which is nice,but end of day it’s your creation and your doing great job,

The plate chrome was needed on the roadster to compensate for the chrome that was lost surrounding the coupes rear window. I'd assume from a design standpoint that's also the case for the extra chrome on the roadsters door window line as well. I've been a car guy for 49 years and have always considered the E-Type to be in the top 5 most beautiful cars of all-time. You're examples are absolutely gorgeous and thank you for sharing them with us. Great video!

On Robin's replica the front and rear tyres have almost the same sidewall height, the front is 90mm, the rear 91.5mm. Combined with the 19 inch wheels, this gives a total wheel/tyre height of 662mm and 665mm, or just over 26 inches. The standard XJ12 tyre, 205/70 x 15", has a sidewall of 143.5mm, combined with the 15 inch wheel gives a total height of 668mm or just over 26.25 inches.

305/30R19 is 305mm tread width, 305*0.3 sidewall height (91.5mm) and 19" diameter wheels. FWIW I doubt that the Steed car as originally built would have had anything bigger than 15" wheels unless it was fitted with racing wheels and tyres.

I know an Ex Broadspeed employee who stays near Northampton.....an Engine Guru.

Incredible content, something very very different.

Rule of Thumb for wheels: Half A profile-height up if you go from 19"to 18" with the same tyre-width. On your car I would have gone for a higher tyre. In front you could narrow the arch to match the wheel (will make it more driveable)

The 19's look nice but I think 18" with a 40 profile tyre would be the way to go with your build.

Just to say you would have been a brilliant actor as a baddie you have that look as a 60 sand 70s baddie

So glad you didn't go with the alloy dash, walnut looks lovely.

Don't change the wheels for a touring car style, they're a big part of " the look" of the car. Just sayin'.

Loving the progress , the wheels need to be identical to Steeds jag otherwise it’s just not right, I think the wheels will make or break this project, loving what you are doing though 👍👍👍

The front spoiler is just about spot on to my way of thinking. Not wishing to sound negative,but those wheels are not my cup of tea,question for you part one do you need alloys?. Part two have you thought about the possibility of having banded steels ,which to my way of thinking are more in keeping with the age of the car regardless of the modifications,the kit now it's fitted suits very well I think.

It would be better with like for like wheels as on steed car if you are doing the replica