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@@motemo8413 I have a video (I think I showed the thumbnail in this video) in which I went through the fact that the seven from the Archon War may actually not be the first seven Archons. The main proof I brought to the table, but in a tldr way, are: Decarabian was the Anemo Archon and had a divine throne, and it's not a mistranslation; Ganyu talks about the "first iteration of the seven", and an iteration, contrary to what people think it means, is a new and improved version of something that already existed; Egeria turned the Oceanids into people but "as one of the seven" she didn't have enough authority or power to make them actually humans, and the Oceanids became people way before Remuria was founded. We all think that the concept of "Archon" is something that appeared when the Archon War happened, but we actually have no tangible proof of that, nothing in the game specifically says "the concept of Archons appeared for the first time after the Archon War". Of anything, the game says the complete opposite, it talks about Decarabian and Egeria as we said before, Deshret also was said to hold the authority over Sumeru. The one thing that appeared for sure for the first time in the Archon War, were the gnoses, not the Archons. Plus, the Archon War saw the gods fighting each other, and yet it's not called the Gods War, but the Archon War, as if it was meant to leave just the Archons and get rid of the other gods, the fragments of the authorities of the dragons that devoured each other, and coincidentally, the last remaining gods were those who specifically embodied the most perfect concept of the element they represent, not a variation of it, like Havria's salt for example. Anyway, if you want a full explanation of what I just said, I would recommend you watch my previous video "The First Ancient Archons of Teyvat"

@@danaanna9281 I added in the corrections pinned post that Capitano is cryo according to the title of the video of the battle with Mavuika. It doesn't really make sense for capitano to be the Sage of the stolen flame, because we were told he's in Ochkanatlan with the second golden entreaty. Beside that, his black outline is basically a nightsoul's blessing, but it's white and black because it belongs to the night kingdom, as Capitano is dead, just like the devs clearly hinted at in the 5.0 livestream. It's not impossible for Ororon to be the hero, since we literally see him there with Sanhaj. The element of one's vision is actually not important, it's the will to save Natlan that has been passed down since at least the Scarlet Eyed Youth's time (but I think it originated back with Chaac and the birth of the Wayob). The will of the heroes is probably going to become Mavuika's power to defeat the Abyss. I don't understand, though, why everybody seems to be willing to ignore the elephant in the room, Ororon's appearance in that specific scene with the heroes of the present and of the past. Everybody is saying how he cannot be the hero, but at the same time no one is finding an excuse for his presence there, nor is anybody even admitting the fact that he is there. I don't think the Masters of the Night Wind to be Cryo anyway, I believe them to be Anemo, while the Flower Feather Clan is Pyro, and for multiple reasons: Ranjit picked a living Pyro FLOWER as a Saurian candidate; Ranjit told us that the color of the Saurians reflect their element, and the Qucusaurs are bright red; Ngobou, a Qucusaur, is Pyro, uses Pyro attacks and is infused with Pyro; It doesn't make sense for the land of Pyro to have Saurians of every single element but Pyro; just because Qucusaurs fly, it doesn't mean they're Anemo just as the Cincin are Electro or Cryo and they also fly, and similarly the Consecrated Vulture can fly but is Pyro. Plus, smoke isn't really Cryo, it's more Anemo, it's basically air/wind, and we also know that the Iktomisaurs have great power of flight, so we were already told what they can do before Natlan was even released. The devs didn't make it clear at all that there is no Pyro tribe. The emblems of each tribes banner never show any element at all, so according to your theory, no tribe would have an element to begin with, just because the Pyro Archon's banner is the only one who has it. Citlali knows the plan and is actively helping Mavuika, and yet the hero from her clan hasn't appeared yet, but no one considers this little detail. Plus, as I said before, Yupanqui was one of the heroes from the Scarlet Eyed Youth's story and bore the name Malipo. The Craftsman, who belonged to the Masters of the Night Wind, wore a hood that covered half of his face, and a golden tear dropped into one of his eyes, which allowed him to see things no one had ever seen before. Ororon has a hoof that covers half of his face, and one eye (specifically the one where the hood covers his head) is of a completely different color.... I highly doubt that he's going to be a 4 star, but there's no proof here, it's just me saying he's the hero and you saying it's not, so it's an impasse. Yes, I also added that into the corrections pinned post, in Japanese it says tabibito no tamashii.

@@redwineee4412 the problem is that we're focusing too much on the element of their visions, while it doesn't really matter, if you think about it. What matters is the will to save Natlan together, a will that has been passed down for millennia, even before the cataclysm, since Malipo (and as a consequence the names of the six heroes) was Yupanqui's Ancient Name. Furthermore, there is a great chance that these 6 ancient names are the first names ever created that once belonged to Chaac's companions that later became the Wayob. So as you can see, the elements don't really matter at all

@@ShadowXImpact your right 🤧 it doesn't really matter what element they are I just wanted to see the 7 elements fight back evil like my little pony 😭✌️

@@mizrahiomr I've heard about this thing that Pyro characters always has a complex relationship with their fathers, but it's actually not true. Yoimiya doesn't have any issue with her father, unless you want to stretch it so far as to say it's a difficult relationship because he can't hear her when she speaks, Arlecchino doesn't even have parents and her issue was with a mother figure rather than a father, Klee's father is barely mentioned, Lyney was abandoned and there's the whole Arlecchino/Father thing so I wouldn't know if it can even be considered, Amber doesn't have problems with her (completely unknown) father but she has something with her grandfather, just like Hu Tao's story is also about her grandfather but I would call it a complex relationship, he simply died of old age, Bennet has a great relationship with all his dads, Xiangling goes along extremely well with her father, Xinyan has issues with her entire family, and Yanfei made a contract with her father, promising to do what she wants to do and be happy, so there's no problem whatsoever there. In the end, few Pyro characters have issues with their fathers, and many other characters that wield other elements have issues with theirs, like Jean and Barbara for example, so I'd safely say that father issues are not characteristic of Pyro users. That being said, I don't really think Mavuika's father would be so against her decision 500 years ago, that he somehow became a weird being, achieved long life, lived for 500 years, joined the Fatui and came back to literally defeat his own daughter with force, and take over Natlan. Apart from him not showing himself before she entered the Flame, we have literally nothing about him, so it would sound weird if Capitano ended up being her father. On the other hand, Tenoch's goal wasn't uniting the tribes, he didn't even want to help Mavuika, he just wanted to save Natlan no matter what, and as a consequence, he created that team. He made an oath with Mavuika 500 years ago, so that if she wasn't able to save Natlan, he would have found a way to come back and make her pay, and that does seem what Capitano is doing. Not only did he speak of the oath made 500 years ago that hasn't been fulfilled, he basically said that Mavuika is at an impasse, she wasn't able to save Natlan, so now it's time for him to do it...

@@FichaGris well, I won't talk about 5.2 because we know there's no Archon quest and because I was forced into a leak, so I now know what's going to happen, but I think it will be even more dramatic, like Mavuika dying in 5.1 and coming back to life in 5.3 with the incandescent ode of resurrection. The idea of the people bringing her back through sheer belief power is actually something I'm exploring for another video, but I will say, I can get behind the idea pretty easily. As for Capitano, he's obviously not taking us to Snezhnaya in 5.3, because we still need to stay in Natlan until 5.8, and as I said in the video, I think we will ge tto keep the gnosis. Heck, Capitano may also decide to leave the Fatui altogether, which would be awesome

Mavuika talks about the Lord of the Night, not the Wayob, but yes, it's probably going to be similar. The "gift" that the people have, the ability to be resurrected, is going to be given back sooner or later, specifically when the people are ready to live like regular people. In Natlan's case, though, things are more complicated because the resurrection power is not just something the Lord of the Night (the Heavenly Envoy that created the Night Kingdom) gave the people, it's also the Sacred Flame Xbalanque took from the Dragon Sovereign, so taking Simulanka as an example, is a mix of Barbeloth's story and Cappte's story of how Constellation Metropole won against the ancient dragon and stole his treasure. Now, the chances that Mini-Durin is also part of the "spoilers" for the next nation, I think are minimal. Those were intended to tell us about the future quest that is going to happen on Dragonspine, so I'm not too sure the Ancient Dragon will come back in Natlan, also because he was completely corrupted by the Abyss and Apep also told us that some Dragons decided not to come back to life, so it can't just be the one that was missing in Inazuma, because she was talking about more than one Dragon. The easiest answer (which can also be wrong because it's the easiest one), is that Mavuika will give back that gift, the Night Kingdom will cease to exist because, maybe, the Leylines got fixed after so many millennia, but no one knew because, just like in Simulanka, being able to come back to life is convenient compared to definitely dying the first time. Mavuika will probably die in 5.1 and stay dead until 5.3 when something will happen that will bring her back to life with the "incandescent ode of resurrection", but at the same time, Natlan will also become a normal nation just like the others. In all of this, we also have nothing about the Celestial Nail that has been strangely ignored by the Traveler, although he could clearly see in there hanging in the sky....

@@zerooskil7161 well, the dragons were originally defeated by the Primordial One, not the heavenly principles, and if I'm right to think that the heavenly principles are one of the shades, then it logically follows that they are weaker than the Primordial One, being just 1/4 of what the Primordial One is (four shades of itself, like 4 segments maybe). So yeah, Neuvillette is the first dragon who has a real chance at defeating the heavenly principles since the inception of Teyvat, but maybe just him alone may not be enough? As for Paimon, I think she is so unknown that theories about who she is, can go from normal to absurd and no one can safely say when it's actually too much. It's clear that she's important, she has an Ars Goetia name so her real identity can go from very important human (like Mavuika who has an Ars Goetia name) to shade (like Istaroth), but she might not be on the extreme ends of the spectrum. For all we know, Albedo could have been right since the beginning, with her being an exterior part of the Traveler, like who knows, his sealed powers took a physical shape and is following him until he can unseal them. I used to think she was one of the shades, but as time passes, I think she might be more important to the traveler than to the whole world

@@mitab1 yes, although the shade of death is what I call the Shade of Fate. This could be like in Simulanka, so a power granted by a shade that eventually needs to be given back once they're ready to life as normal people, or Xbalanque straight up stole that power, and the Heavens now want it back. What's weird is that the deadline for giving that power back is the destruction of the nation by the abyss, unless it's a strange coincidence, but I doubt it

@@weddingjay04 and yet, mualani doesn't even touch the ball.... Still, the whole concept of not believing Ororon is the hero doesn't really make sense, since we literally see him with the hero from 500 years ago in the trailer. Plus, he is the exact copy of the craftsman from the Scarlet-Eyed Youth story, just like Xilonen is all about forged objects, and Sakkuk spent her whole like looking for who forged her father's feather accessory and then spent what was left of her life to gather every jewelry the craftsman forged. The same goes for Kinich, who has the name Malipo just like Yupanqui from that same story. And then there's the fact that Citlali apparently knows about Mavuika's plan, she's helping her with it, but the hero from her tribe has not been found yet, so it's not her

@@ShadowXImpact Mualani didn't touch the Ball but she is invited in the "Champion's Battle". Looking exactly the Hero doesnt also mean that he's actually the one who will fit that certain Hero, in Xilonen's case maybe it just coincidence that she look like that. Again focus on the mini throw back on the Ignition Trailer most of all those held the ball are all chosen hero of Natlan and Ororon is not included in there and he isnt even invited by Mavuika to participate in "Champion's Battle".

@@weddingjay04 and according your theory, just as Ororon wasn't invited so he's not the hero, Kachina was invited and should, as a consequence, be a hero, and yet thara not how thing are. I think you're mistaking taking part in the pilgrimage with being a hero. Those are two different things, because the fact that a person ends up being a hero is decided by the Wayob way before, the Wayob gives them the correct Ancient Name, which in turn or as a consequence also allows them to participate in the Pilgrimage, but they don't really have to. We saw Citlali in Ignition, but she apparently didn't participate in the tournament, she was nowhere to be seen throughout 5.0. Even Kinich and Xilonen didn't win the Pilgrimage despite them being heros. And, again, we literally see Ororon's hood in the 5.1 trailer with a hero of the past next to him, just like we see Kinich and Burkina....

@@ShadowXImpact this battle is not the Pilgrimage, its the Chosen 6 Battle together with the Pyro Archon that's why i called it the "Champion's Battle". Kachina is there to start inviting those Heroes by throwing the ball to them and again Mualani is invited. And also shown in the Mini throw back in the ignition trailer are those who are invited by the Pyro Archon. I suggest maybe try to rewatch the ignition trailer rather than pushing this "idea" that Ororon is one of the 6 heroes plus it weird that a supposed 4* character is one of the chosen 6 together with the 5* heroes.

@@weddingjay04 oh so seeing Ororon with his old counterpart in the stadium surrounding Mavuika, is pushing my "idea" that he's the hero, but you literally forcing the idea that Citlali must be the hero because she received a ball, is the right thing to do. And the internet strikes again. I mean, if you want to keep your theory despite the evidence (that you are conveniently omitting), so be it, but at the very least, show some semblance of respect and manners for those who analyze the videos in detail, watching them frame by frame to create an analysis video that is impartial (pure unbiased information) but also rich in theories, just like I did with Ignition and with everything this game has released since I started playing the game

@@amouramarie I did think about it, but I guess the Night Kingdom is not connected to Irminsul nor to the leylines, otherwise the people of Natlan would be able to leave the nation without any problem. The night kingdom is an alternative, a replacement for the leylines because they're too weak in Natlan. As for the Traveler, we honestly don't even know if they're going to be able to make this ancient name. Xilonen said that someone (most likely Mavuika) is trying to finish the ancient name, so Xilonen wasn't able to do it. Then we have the Traveler's soul being restrained and getting weaker, which could potentially be the result of trying to link him to the night kingdom. As for Lumine, the same thing from before applies to her. She needs to be recorded by the leylines, not the Night Kingdom, to be part of Teyvat, but she's not a descender, so Irminsul maybe didn't have a problem recording her to begin with. I don't think Mavuika has evil plans against us, she's too preoccupied with the abyss and now the Fatui, we're basically the least of her problems, especially since we're helping her. Natlan is about to be destroyed by the abyss, so the off chance that we might become dangerous, wouldn't even go through her mind

@@ShadowXImpact Yeah, I was thinking that maybe Lumine used to be a descender like us, because there doesn't seem to be a very good reason given why one twin would be and the other not, unless we think that one twin naturally has a superior "will" than the other, which may be true, protagonist privilege and all that. Or maybe the twins' wills are equal in strength, but the Abyss twin was somehow artificially tied to Teyvat. I forget how Nahida phrases it - that the twin "belongs" to Teyvat and the Traveler doesn't for some reason? Depending on how similar the Night Kingdom is to the leyline system, it might have the same effect. Or if there's any point of connection between the Night Kingdom and Natlan's weakened leylines... Ahh, the Night Kingdom is still too mysterious!

@@amouramarie as far as we know, based on how they phrased things, Aether is a descender, so he has a will that can challenge a world by birth, while Lumine doesn't. It has never been explained why, and I think the twins originally didn't know either, because the concept of being Descenders is something they learned in Teyvat. Considering how little we know, it could also be that Lumine was a descender but she lost that privilege because of something that happened to her, and we know she lived through the cataclysm, while Aether was still in the meteor, so she could have even been cursed. If the outsiders all get the same treatment, then the story of the second Descenders, the ones from the battlepass, may apply to the current ones. The first heir got corrupted by Forbidden Knowledge and forgot who she was, so the second one took up where the first had stumbled. Either way, I don't think the Night Kingdom is responsible for Lumine "coming from this world" as Nahida said. The whole concept of her being from Teyvat is very weird as it is, because if you think about it, although Irminsul believes her to be from Teyvat, it still has nothing about her before she suddenly appeared in Khaenri'ah. This could mean two things: either Irminsul began to record information about her as soon as she appeared in Khaenri'ah, or something along the way, something she did maybe, made it so that Irminsul acquired knowledge of everything she did up until then since she appeared in Khaenri'ah all in one shot. I tend to believe the first option more than the second, but we know far too little to figure this out

@@Kynokefalos I mean, until they literally tell us who he is... are? Anyway, until we know the truth, Menogias lives on!!!

​@@ShadowXImpact Oh you answered me so fast, sorry XD. I wrote my comment and i edited it as i was progressing your video.

@@Kynokefalos the one time I noticed the notification on my phone right when it arrived XD Anyway, I suppose he might be the second harbinger, if he is a Harbinger as I said in the video, although, thanks to RUclips recommendation, I saw something that can technically mean something or nothing at all or even something completely different altogether, so I have no idea now... I hope Ororon is the Harbinger, that would mean my theory in the vision is right, and he does have that symbol under his eye like the sad theater face from the Harbinger wheel and that symbol is the only one I can't link to any other harbinger, so it has to be the 10th unknown one.... Only one way to figure it out!

@@ShadowXImpact Yeah the mask of the tragedy. I never linked that symbol to Pierro, but to someone tragic with a lesser rank.

@@_jules_perez_ there are a few things that prevent capitano from being Xbalanque, like his voice doesn't sound like the one we heard in Mavuika's consciousness, or the fact that he went back into the sacred flame for some reason, but putting those aside, I hope he's not Xbalanque! I mean, he wouldn't even have to fight Mavuika to rule Natlan, it would be his by default!

@@ShadowXImpact yeah, its more likely to be someone with no current VA but just thinking that it would be funny if an former archon joined the Fatui and in Natlan is wanting to abolish the rules he created

@@aayanchiron9770 I am very torn for Chasca... She's a bow user, and I usually don't pull for them because I don't use bows in the game... I was kinda hoping she would have been a 4 star that I could pull while trying to get the 5 star...

@@ShadowXImpactI also don’t use much bow dps But these 3 ladies are SPICY so I use through my gems at them

@@byakumaruZ I see where you're coming from, but I am unable to reply to the comment, otherwise I would be writing down the script for the new chessboard video XD I can say, though, that I agree with dendro and Electro being bishops, but the explanation is simpler: the bishop is a man of church, and both Nahida and the Shogun seem more interested in protecting a metaphysical concept, eternity (which is the closest thing to the heavenly principles) and wisdom. As for why we haven't seen the Dendro gnosis, Nahida didn't really need to take it out to use it, so she just kept it inside of her, I guess. As for the King piece, remember that there are only seven gnoses, one per element and Archon, so the Abyss, Celestia or Khaenri'ah wouldn't have one. The King might be easier than we expect (if we consider the Pyro one as a Rook as I proposed), but again, it belongs to the new video

@@angelmarquez8470 on the other hand, I was really looking forward to getting Ororon, and I will get him still, but he's a bow user.... I don't use bows in this game.... I'm so sad

​@@ShadowXImpact Yes, I was disappointed on that too. The only bow users I use are Yelan and recently Tighnari coz I've got him C4-5 so I might as well use it hahaha. I was expecting Ororon to be a sword or polearm user

And anemo too haha

@@eternaleez frost and flame, yes, it's in the pinned comment with the corrections

@@genesischaparro8954 more than that, he wouldn't be alone anymore, although I would have liked Bosacius to be the one alive, since he's my favorite Yaksha, but alas....

@@JohnCivor apart from the fact that the Masters of the Night-Wind are most likely not Cryo but Anemo, despite what the wiki says (but then again, it also says that the Flower Feather Clan is Anemo while it's clearly Pyro), the solution may be very simple: the element of one's vision simply doesn't matter for Mavuika's plan. Just because she needs 6 heroes from six tribes that take after an element, it doesn't really mean that they have to own the corresponding element in their vision. So, I don't really understand not accepting or not believing Ororon to be the hero, especially after we literally see his hood in the trailer...

@@ShadowXImpact so no cryo tribe you think?

@@SachaAnderson-d8v I mean, the Saurians evolved to match the land they inhabit, so considering that Natlan is a tropical nation, I cna hardly imagine a frozen place to exist, even in a canyon filled with smoke as the Masters of the Night Wind place