Order and Harmony of Teyvat - Genshin Impact X Star Rail Theory
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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Today's video is really different from the ones I usually make!
I'll analyze the main mission from Star Rail version 2.2 to find some big connections with Teyvat, especially after Genshin Impact version 4.6!
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0:00 - Intro and Disclaimers
0:58 - Ena and Xipe
3:48 - Ena the Primordial One
7:13 - Sophia the Aeon
8:59 - Samsara Cycles
15:22 - Predictions
17:25 - Mikhail and Paimon
19:16 - Pom-Pom
20:10 - Natlan
21:43 - Worlds Structures
23:37 - Genesis Stellaron
26:18 - Dreamscape Teyvat
28:21 - Outro
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well, it's not too much of a correction, but there is a hidden quest in Penacony after the main event. If you haven't played it yet and don't want it to be spoiled, don't read further. Just go to the southernmost teleport in the Grand Theater and walk forward.
So, I found out about this hidden achievement like 10 minutes ago. As I suspected, Sunday is already somewhat free, while Robin got out later and she's looking for him.
I don't know how free Sunday is, since he should be in the hands of the IPC, while Robin just says that he's "somewhere in the dreamscape". As for Robin, she fainted for the fall, and was bedridden for a while. When she woke up, she was surrounded by nurses, but it also seems that the Hounds are keeping her somewhere. She managed to flee but they're on her track.
So, in a sense, I was right about the two being released in different moments, and that Robin would be looking for Sunday who is nowhete to be found.
Now, we wait to see what Jade has in store for him, I guess!
I believe Ena, similarly to Aha, fools us who they really are. A puppet is controlled by someone, so most likely Ena is the big eye observing everything, creating a divine puppet deity to create a controlled illusion of bliss.
It could be, I mean that eye must have a meaning, although, it's still a fantasy game, so I wouldn't really think it as strange that a puppet is working without a puppeteer. I mean, Nous is a computer and it's working on its own, right? Both of them ascended as Aeons, so they probably received a divine kind of soul, something like Focalors was the divine part of Furina, so that could be what is allowing a puppet or a computer to work as a living being without anyone operating them.
Actually that makes a lot of sense because that mirrors a lot of what I've noticed based off of psychology in the way people react in Genshin impact. Like why haven't the Fatui withdrawn in totality from the nations we've 'freed' why there is a 'source song' in the aranara questline. It reminds me of the Godhead in TES lore and how vivec became aware that he was in a game and still existed through sheer force of will.
Yeah, it is actually strange that the Fatui don't leave the places where the Harbingers' missions have been completed, like the ones in the Goth hotel in Mondstadt. What's their mission? Why is Pantalone keeping them there? Is there something else happening behind the scenes, something we are not made aware of? Is this part of Project Stuzha?
As for the Aranara, I think that mission started getting us acquainted with the power of music in Teyvat, but I actually didn't think about it before. We've been slowly instructed to think it's normal that music is a vehicle of power, so that when Remuria happened, we didn't think about it too much.
Sadly, I never played the Elden Rings, so I don't know what you're talking about, but the concept seems interesting. Maybe that's what Aether is going to go through, he will realize that it's a dream but he will go through with it regardless
I love theories that draw on the concept of the hoyoverse because HI3 (part 2) also has the split world phenomenon (Oxia and Langqiu) + 7 Shu (each with an accompanying nail) and since part 1 has had the concept of bubble universes
Penacony reminded me a lot of Sumeru’s samsaras and the hive mind themes
yeah, it was really nice to find references between the games!
I would have done a better job if I played Honkai Impact, because, as you said, there are many more references that could have made the video even better.
One day, I will play the game... one day....
This theory is crazy, but i love it. It is really interesting concept!
Sometimes, crazy is a good thing!! XD I'm happy you liked it!!!
With Sumeru revolving around Irminsul and dreams and the Yelan-Xiao-Chasm-Chapter also playing in a place that's like a dreambubble prison, I dare say tgat the recreation of Teyvat is more or less layering a dreamscape (the human realm) onto the light realm and irminsul upholds it.
if that's the case, perhaps the dream master of teyvat is the shade that the Primordial One used for its creation.
Would you mind expanding on the concept of "layering a dreamscape onto the light realm"?
Because I believe the microcosm of Teyvat to be a big dream bubble, split in two hemisphere, and in the abyss one, there are other smaller dream bubbles, places from the inhabitable hemisphere that fell down and became smaller dream bubbles. Something like in Honkai Impact, where the various worlds can fall from the Imaginary Tree and end up in the Sea of Quanta.
But, I do agree that the dreammaster of Teyvat is the shade that the Primordial One used for its creation, and looking at the murals in the domains, we see a winged being in the abyss section of the microcosm, so it's probably Phanes, and I think it's the Sinner, chained into the abyss by the Primordial One because he defied his order and created Teyvat.
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I think of the layering as any art app allows you to create a new layer that you can draw on and even make layers below invisible/less visible. It takes up the same space but has a higher priority bc it's on top. Having dream bubbles that get messy bc they are too deep or even separated from the normal Human Realm might as you said be bc they behave like bubble universes, but it might also actually bc dreams can become increasingly messed up and less graphic/visual the deeper it's connected to the subconscious of the dreamer, no?
When we entertain the idea that there is a dreamer who created Teyvat by lying down and sleeping (wasn't Pangu's myth a little like that? but in this case creating the world BY sleeping instead of becoming the world), then the order and stability of the spaces could actually be tied to concepts from psychology and the like, no?
In my own little theory I'd even go so far as to say that Irminsul upholds this realm bc it does all the calculations on keeping the top layers logical enough to not sink into the abyss/chaotic space, which in turn makes me believe that the shade was made into Irminsul making Nahida the reincarnation of a shade of the Primordial One. Kaenri'ah is supposed to be close to Irminsuls roots, no? Might Kaenri'ah perhaps actually be at the borders of reality (the light realm) and thus be the place where outlanders can strand?
It's also intriguing that many entities in teyvat try to create a hive mind to escape individual fate and that the oceanids returned to being a singular entity. What if all original humans from teyvat are splinters of smth that was one being before?
Sry if I got too sidetracked, I'm still working on organizing my ideas and points
@@-nery- I get what you mean, but I still think that it is an actual "bubble" created above the light realm for different reasons. If it's a somewhat physical bubble, then it can be capsized, which couldn't happen if we're talking about layers. Plus, in the domains, there's the image of an egg with a world inside and a winged being (Phanes in my theory) in the other half of it, so the abyss.
Though, this doesn't mean that the concept of layers doesn't exist. The bubble can be still made of layers, and depending on multiple factors, these layers can me more or less messed up.
We all see things that shouldn't exist in Teyvat, like pieces of ruins retaining their place even though they're not connected to anything, so floating in the spot they should have been. That feels like the dream is trying to keep the shape, but something went wrong.
If the dreammaster created the world by sleeping, then Phanes being inside the microcosm makes even more sense. He is "asleep" inside the bubble, but also "awake" in the dream, and this is why I think Phanes is the Sinner, someone chained inside the dream.
I once thought that Phanes was the Irminsul Tree, if you check one of my old videos, you would find this, but with time, I stopped believing this, especially when the Sinner appeared. Someone with the power to remove the curse, so to give people their memories back, a curse that works on the level of fate, but that is chained in the abyss and doesn't even believe himself to be a god, and the shades are not defined as gods (for whatever reason).
As for Khaenri'ah's location, I think it is at the border between the human realm (the inhabitable Teyvat) and the void realm (the abyss). The transcendent people who ended up in Khaenri'ah, sound like people who, somehow, were born in the abyss, rather than Descenders from outside the microcosm. But we also know that the Descenders arrived there, and since the abyss is the way in and out of the microcosm (the mysterious doorway at the bottom of the abyss, as Nabu Malikata called it), the first place they would have found, would have been Khaenri'ah, since it's underground.
Enkanomiya, instead, is in a unique spot. On the map, we see that we are probably almost at the border of the microcosm, and Enkanomiya is probably in the abyss, so it's located in the void realm (abyss), and the border with the human realm (Teyvat) but also with the light realm (the old world or everything outside the microcosm in general), reason why there's the three realm gateway offering. Enkanomiya is basically in a "corner" of the microcosm, and it borders with every single realm as a consequence
@-nery- Sumeru's Archon Quests emphasizing that dreams are something very powerful that can even extract energy from them (enough to create a deity) only reinforces yours theory
Good job organising the thoughts that have been hovering over my mind! ❤
Thank you!!! I'm happy you liked the video and that I managed to make things clearer. It was really hard, it took a week to even think about writing down a script, and I had to redo it three times, changing it completely every time. I was really confused at first, then I slowly figured out what felt wrong XD
1:08 You should name them BY NAME, cuz these gods don't have a gender and only "THEY, THEM and IT" are non-gendered pronounts. And isn't that eye the Aeon and not the puppet for the Order?
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I just told my friend that surely Hoyo did not coincidentally release patches for 2 separate games that tackle similar concepts, like disharmony and collective consciousness to name a few.😂
Yeah, they've been hinting at each other pretty heavily! And, honestly, I really like it, it makes them part of a bigger project and the people who participate in it, the players who play the two games, can feel part of it, too. It gives a sense of satisfaction when you realize that what's going to happen is something you already understand because you played the other game
Amazing job on the video! 👌🏻 I still haven’t gotten to beat Sunday. It’s gonna be like the bug and Argenti, irritating and incomplete!
Thank you!!! I'm happy you liked the video!!!
And you can do it, trust me!!!! XD
Also the idea of the heavenly principles as a hive mind and the harmony being a being composed of the universe
There's this recurrent theme of people joining their minds to defy fate, and it's coming up one too many times now.
Either that's the actual way to go but no one has managed to do so, or that's the worst idea and it's the reason why no one managed to successfully accomplish anything.
I mean, the only one so far who really defied the Heavenly Principles, was Focalors, and she did it all alone....
As for the Heavenly Principles being a hive mind.... I don't know. Nahida defines them as a singular being, and since she's the avatar of Irminsul, I would dare say she's the most knowledgeable person on Teyvat...
YES. I've been saying this for a while, I'm pretty sure the genesis pearl is a stellaron!
It does fit the description at the very least. If it ends up actually being one, then we'll know in which universe Teyvat is! Who knows, maybe the Astral Express will enter the microcosm just like it crashes into Dominicus, which by the way, is really funny to watch!
Was Melustanin actually hinted to be the next destination in HSR?
I found the most interesting part of this theory to be the speculation on the future of Sunday and Robin. Ultimately, it seems a bit unlikely that he would go on a journey around the cosmos, so maybe this is where the parallels end. Or he could always go on a journey around the block while he has a think.
And that's why I said it's probably the next destination. It seems Melustanin ended up being the winner regardless of what people chose (I chose Melustanin XD)
So, in theory, it should be the next destination.
Yes, it sounds strange that he would go on a journey, but remember that Jade is coming to Penacony? She is a huge question mark, one big enough to be the one who is going to take him away for herself (or for Diamond). Also, he's supposed to be taken away to Pier Point, so that could be considered as a journey across the universe.
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I thought that destination vote was just a red herring since we were still in Ena's dream and the vote always goes with whichever location the TB picks.
I guess Pier Point could be considered a journey although that seems like a "judgement" to me.
@@CitrusLime920 I'll check out other people's videos about the quest to see if I understood the voting correctly. Still, even in Ena's dream, those people are still real ones, even Pom-Pom, so their conversations really happened, even if just in a dream
@@CitrusLime920 nope, I was completely wrong. Another person picked Lushaka and it was decided to go there..... Okay, it's weird now, but still, agate, agnidus agate, that can't be a coincidence, right?
@@ShadowX5452Gaming yeah, the agates definitely inspired by the same thing. However, I got the sense that everything between the false end to the Sunday fight and its resumption was a hallucination. Like, would the IPC reps really just let Penacony's debt go? Only if they were fake or completely mind controlled. And Jing Yuan definitely wasn't there.
Kinda of confused why you're separating the primordial one and phanes? Great video
I guess I'll have to make a video about it, since you're not the first one saying this.
So the thing is simple. There are two schools of thought about Phanes.
One says that Phanes is the Primordial One, and it's based on the fact that, in Before Sun and Moon, it is said "the Primordial One may be Phanes".
The other one says that Phanes and the Primordial One are two different beings, still because the book says that sentence.
The point is that the book says "MAY be Phanes", so the people are confused. While the first group ignores that, the second one believes that the people probably never saw the Primordial One, because he never entered Teyvat, he never showed himself to the humans, but Phanes, the shade that created the whole universe, did. In the eyes of the people, the creator would be the highest of beings, he created the universe, so they started being confused and mistook him for the Primordial One, although with some underlying doubts about it. Another option is that, differently from Istaroth and Susty, Phanes is androgynous with wings and a crown, so he may look more similar to the Primordial One than the other three shades, confusing the people.
Those doubts are valid, because the Primordial One emerged from the eternal throne and started fighting against the dragons. Then he created four shades, and they created the universe while he was still fighting against the dragons, so if Phanes is the Primordial One, how did he fight the dragons, but be born from an egg and created a world inside of it at the same time?
The answer is simple: the shades are emanations or segments of the Primordial One, so they "are" the Primordial One, and Phanes, one of the shades, created the world, while the Primordial One fought against the dragons.
The last concept is that Phanes was born from an egg and he created a microcosm inside of it. If a being is born from an egg, it should hatch it, so break it. In Teyvat's case, the egg is intact, so Phanes has to be inside the egg, the microcosm, meaning that he can't be the Primordial One.
In the domains murals, we see a world inside an egg, and still inside the egg, there's a winged being, and I believe that is Phanes.
Anyway, I'm happy you liked the video!!! XD
Did anyone notice something in 21:48 theres amechanism that looks very much like the thing you see in the court of fontain??? I do it looks exactly like it and they way it moves is quite serious to note thats a possible hint to say that genshin and hsr are from mihoyo or they are connected but not by story but by lore as a universe and genshin genesis impact is the last of the chapter that will finally put all this honkai stuff and games before it that match up to rest the new beginning
That concept design is pretty much everywhere in Teyvat. A similar one is in Enkanomiya, for example.
I don't understand what you meant by "that's a possible hint that genshin and hsr are from Mihoyo" though.
Still, the devs said that the three games belong to the same multiverse, maybe that's what you meant?
I think the real ena is the owener of the eye and 'ena' is the puppet too
There were a couple of things you mentioned that reminded me of certain concepts from HI3. The first was the Pearl in the Veluriyam Mirage, which reminded me of an Ether Anchor. Long story short, the bubble universes and world fragments that fall into the Sea of Quanta are destined to fade away, but they can sometimes persist if they have an Ether Anchor. Usually some sort of object that stabilizes the bubble universe and keeps it from collapsing, at least for a time.
The second thing was when you mentioned something about the people of Teyvat being like avatars of the real inhabitants of Teyvat who just continually update. That reminded me of the Elysian Realm, which other than Klein, who is an android, and Can, who is basically like a memetic entity born inside of the Realm, only has 13 permanent residents, the Sims of the Flamechasers. The Elysian Realm was created using both technology and psychic powers, but the main purpose for it was to house the simulations of the 13 Flamechasers. The real ones can sync with their copies in the Elysian Realm to update their memories of the real world.
I do think Fontaine and HSR have been referencing each other and hinting at future events for the other one this past year and some. Before HSR, Genshin and HI3 did that sometimes as well. The two biggest examples I can think of are the Honkai x Genshin event, where the second story in the event foreshadowed the reveal of the Raiden Shogun being a puppet created by the real Archon, and then later with Ei’s release her theme of “Origin” and her move set and Plane of Euthymia eventually all showed up in Mei’s Herrscher of Origin form.
I wonder how long this will be the case. With Zenless Zone Zero releasing this year, I wonder if Natlan will find more parallels in ZZZ and vice versa. Alternatively, Genshin and HI3 could go back to mirroring each other now that Honkai has entered part 2, which revolves around Mars, the planet named after the god of war.
Well, that's interesting! It seems that the connections I made, actually make sense, if they can also be found in Honkai Impact!
At first, I was thinking about the divine key, the one that they found in the desert (I can't remember the name, for some reason), because it looked like something potentially related, but I gave up. I didn't want to risk saying something stupid, to be honest, since I've never played the game. The two eras are easier and more straightforward, so I attempted that connection.
As for Zenless Zone Zero, I don't even know what the game is going to be about, I just watched a gameplay video about it and that's it.
Since they've been hinting across games, I guess it's not out of the realm of possibilities that it will take inspiration on Natlan, at least at the beginning.
I guess I'll have to try it when it comes out, since I wasn't considered for the beta when I applied...
I’m not sure which Divine Key you mean. I don’t remember one that was found in the desert. The closest thing I can think of is Cosmic Juggernaut, the Key of Infinity. It’s the Divine Key made the Herrscher of the Void’s core, so it has control over space, and it was tested out in Vimur Lab in North Africa in a desert city. It’s a black and gold train.
@@gyannunez found it, it was the Star of Eden. It is a divine key... right? I watched a video that talked about the whole story of Honkai Impact, and this sphere looked like something worth investigating, but as I said, I gave up just to avoid saying something stupid, which is probably what I'm doing right now anyway XD
@@ShadowX5452Gaming Oh the Star of Eden was found in Boston LOL
Yeah the only desert and Divine Key I can think of is Cosmic Juggernaut getting tested in a city in the desert. It was found in London.
The Star of Eden (the real one not a mimic) is in Star Rail. It’s Welt’s cane now.
7:10 I personally find this to be quite the reach. The capabilities a living being has are also called fuctions too. Rarely but they're; "Brain function" is one such case. Defining the Primordial One as a mechanical being due to a single word that is also used for living beings is a nitpick. Otherwise the theory does feel sound.
I also made my own theory connecting Teyvat to HSR, but through the Stellarons and the Fragmentum anomalies they create. In short; the Fragmentum creates the same anomalies seen as the natural order of Teyvat (not to be confused with proto-Teyvat's (the world of the Sovereigns) natural order, but the natural order we see in today's Teyvat under the Heavenly Principles) as Domains and Ley Line disorders. I go into more detail and speculation in my HYLAB post named "Teyvay - Affected by a Stellaron?".
I mean, if you got into a fight and you ended up in a bad shape, would you really say that your functions had bee ruined? I understand the "brain functions" concept, but I highly doubt anyone would really define their own capabilities as functions.
Still, ever since I read that sentence, I've always been reminded of the Fal'Cie from Final Fantasy XIII. They are gods, they are tasked with the creation of something, but they're still mechanical beings, so why wouldn't the Primordial One be one as well. I mean even if we don't go as far as Final Fantasy, in Star Rail, Ena and Nous are basically "objects", a puppet and a computer, but they are still Aeons.
Thinking about the Fragmentum to explain the domains and the Ley Line disorders, is really smart, and I can see it working fine. I'll check out the post as soon as I can!
@@ShadowX5452Gaming Dunno, it could be, but to me, it looks like the Primordial One is more "inclined" to living beings, seeing how none of the civilizations under The Seven are really that technologically advanced besides Fontaine, which technology isn't anywhere near the level of sophistication of the nations that Celestia destroyed (though all of them were unrelated to their mechanical prowess). It could be explained, under your frame of work, as Celestia discouraging research into mechanics and biomechanics because it could lead to some truths about the PO being discovered.
And thank you! Though I speculate way more than I'd like in that post, the Fragmentum-Ley Line similarities wouldn't leave my mind lol; that being the main part of that post. The bits about the Stellaron itself and th Travelers are just fun I had along the way, so don't mind them too much
With the penacony and teyvat comparison I think it’s diving a bit too much into it the heavenly principles aren’t really exactly the good guys but not really the bad guys either and I think it’s a bit too much to compare aether and lumines story’s to Robin and Sunday since they both have different experiences to say that Robin will be imprisoned more then her brother who was the main problem in prnacony really doesn’t make sense. I think comparing those two with lumine and aethers story is a bit much especially since you can also compare them to really any sibling duo in anime games the most noticeable being ayaka and ayato they share similarities with Sunday and robin not only buy a parent but also personality and story as well we don’t know much about there father but we do know that ayaka was really close to her mother and how she protected them both there’s also the fact that ayato handles almost all of their family affairs just like Sunday and how ayaka is kinda like an idol to inazuma well she’s close enough to a idol because Alice at one point met ayaka and wanted to make her one but ayaka refused anyway ayaka share similarities with Robin in terms of her wanting to be free like how robins splash art is her as a caged bird ayaka wants to be free of being in the spotlight and explore the rest of teyvat that’s why she’s so heavily attracted to traveler because they get to do all those things but ayaka can’t and Robin has thought about quitting singing for a long time, but she never did because she didn’t wanna turn her back on her audience but also on herself they both have this idea of wanting to be free of something but what holds them back is the fact that even though they want to be free they’re already doing what they love for Sunday and ayato well Sunday isn’t release yet so we don’t know much about his character and I don’t have ayato and didn’t pay attention and his story quest because it was really more about a wedding literally nobody cares about then him as a character but I’m not denying the similarities between the traveler, twins, and Robin and Sunday it’s just when you said Sunday would be released from imprisonment first but Robin longer that I thought that you were kind of pushing the agenda a little too much i think it makes sense that if Robin was to be released first instead of Sunday if you don’t know not only Robin shares the idea of being a caged bird but also Sunday because in his design, he only has one wing while Robyn has two which gives her the ability to fly freely while Sunday is restricted that’s why Sunday should be imprisoned longer because it’s kind of his character being imprisoned now with the priority one and the heavenly principles to be honest, I think they’re just morally gray they neither evil nor are they good they kind of just enforce order which watching my video also didn’t make sense to me because I thought it would’ve made more sense if the originally created teyvat to be a planet of hormony for humans and possibly dragons (because to me, i think there with holding some details when they said the priority one descended onto teyvat in raged war, which I really don’t believe because that’s a bit bias I’m just saying🤷🏾♂️) anyway the current heavenly principles focuses more on the order aspect rather than actual harmony because if they really were the good guys then they would return the authorities back to the dragons and make peace with them representing true harmony but instead they haven’t done anything the last thing that they really done was destroy khaenriah which to me is a bit of a 50-50 because the only way I can actually see them destroy that nation is if it post to threat to the rest of teyvat which it did I don’t think Celestia cared about what khaenriah was doing as long as it didn’t affect the rest of teyvat so they just let them be to be honest I personally believe that Celestia only sent the archons there so they could help repel the abyss instead of destroying the nation because destroying and killing lives doesn’t seem like any of what the archons would do I guess you can argue with ei but that was the puppet who was in control of inazuma for the past 500 years not ei herself who was just meditating in her own consciousness anyways I think Celestia realized that the forbidden knowledge was too much for the gods. They had to make the only rational solution and destroy the nation while also repelling the forbidden knowledge as well and as for pierro I’m pretty sure he’s not a followed, the priority one since khaenriah whole concepts was about not bowing before the gods all of hoyos games have the idea of humanity being strong enough to fend for themselves and not putting there complete faith in the gods to do so Genshin and star rail are no different to this concept, especially hi3 so I can’t really find myself thinking that pierro worships the primordial one now do I think that he acknowledges gods as also living beings and sees the tsaritsa as a god worth worshiping yes I do but I really don’t see him becoming a big antagonist in Genshin main plot that seat more preserved for dain since we are supposed to fight him and he does hold a lot of season that he doesn’t more likely that Dain is the main antagonist instead of pierro who feels more of the main antagonist of snezhnayas story rather then the whole of teyvat but I’m sure that he’s going to have a major role and be endgame the story now as for natlan I actually had this new theory that has something to do with the fate of the pyro archon in every knew archon quest it always gives us subtle hints to the next one and some in the harbengers inazuma was being trapped by their God while sumeru was trapping theirs so if Fontaine had this whole idea of defying its fate of “judgement” and the only way it could’ve been saved was the death of the archon or more specifically the title of archon in general then there has to be some similarities between that and natlan I’m not really sure what idea I’m having but I’m thinking more of the fact that the pyro archon must be trying to defy her fate with the peoples faith in her since murata himeko is Destin to die every universe then it’s likely that murata is fated to die now ik all things die but this death must be different for even a god to want to defy it it’s possible that she’s using the ring of war as a way to gain power in order to defy it since folcalors tactic of defying fate was deceiving it with her character being centered around opera and acting then it’s safe to assume that muratas tactic of defying fate is to challenge fate in a spiritual sense In a way she’s going to challenge fate by pursuing her own death I know that doesn’t make sense but a lot of things that Genshin does wouldn’t make sense but that’s philosophy to you anyways I think the ring of war in natlan is a tradition for natlans archon as a sign of warship By doing rights of combat in her name since folcalors use the peoples belief injustice to deceive fate and destroy the hydro archon throne then murata is possible using the peoples passion of war to challenge fate in the end we know she’s gonna die but be resurrected due to the peoples beliefs if humanity has the power to destroy a heavenly throne just by the combination of belief then who to say that their belief can’t resurrect a god especially since it’s not the first time we’ve heard about humans trying to resurrect God it happend in Sumeru so who is to say that it won’t happen natlan the title literally says incandescent ode of resurrection, with the word incandescent meeting to light some thing or to be heated and the ode part being that of a poem or song or rhyme a big part about the game I mean there is literally a thing that says music is the window to soul so maybe the ode part abt natlans title is representing a resurrected soul as for the winner of the ring of war I think instead of tge person getting to fight the pyro archon herself I think it’s more so that that person will be chosen to challenge fate along side the archon it possibly being capitano (because after the way that we got so heavily humbled by arlecchino I can’t imagine a scenario were actually win💀) plus fire has this idea of rebirth do the pyro archon could possibly have her soul reborn from the ashes of her own body abd be resurrected and the secret the archon tells the traveler is the secret behind either the archon throne or the gnosis.
I mean, does it make sense that Lumine helped Khaenri'ah and their project with Forbidden Knowledge, and yet she was the first one to be released back into the world, while Aether, who is literally innocent, had to wait 500 years?
Apart from their looks, I really don't see Ayato and Ayaka in Sunday and Robin. Maybe Ayaka and Robin are more similar, but not Ayato and Sunday. The two from Penacony were abandoned children while Ayato and Ayaka lived with their parents until they died and then became the new heads of the clan. Their stories are completely different to begin with.
I really wasn't pushing the "agenda" (I think that's not the word you were looking for, though) a little too much. Jade is coming to Penacony under Diamond's orders, and they love people who are... unique? that can do what others can't? with a very low morality? so, it isn't that out of the realm of possibilities that she or Diamond might end up being interested in Sunday and took him under them. I mean, they have an Asdanian criminal as a Stoneheart... Plus, we know that Sunday is supposed to be taken to Pier Point, so, in a sense, he will travel across the universe. If Sunday is released by Jade or Diamond to join the IPC, then Robin would still have to wait for her trial, which means that she will be released after. I mean, let's take every possibility into consideration, right?
As for the Primordial One and the Second who came, yes, we could say that they're morally grey or completely neutral in a sense, but that goes for Ena and Xipe as well. Ena wanted a world free of chaos and strife, so she decided to make specific rules to prevent that and have people live happily. This makes her sound good, but the people had no free will, so she sounds evil as well. Despite that, she still wasn't considered an enemy by the other Aeons, like Qlipoth. Xipe instead wants everybody to be happy, the strong defend the weak, no one can oppress anyone, and there's free will, but then again the planets that are under her symphony, are somewhat brainwashed. She's good, but she can also be evil.
If the Primordial One and the Second who came are similar, then yes, in theory they are neutral, but from the humans' perspective, things are always different.
The Primordial One gave people rules and told them what not to do, so they lived blissfully under his commands. The Heavenly Principles never really show up, if not when something extreme is happening. People are completely free to do whatever they want. The Tsaritsa is literally devising a plan to bring them down, and she's still allowed to do whatever she wants, because it's not hurting the world... but that free will is also what is caused a lot of strife, like the Archon War. Both of them are neutral, both of them can be good or evil.
As for returning the authorities to the dragons... why would they? The dragons used forbidden knowledge to try and take them down once, without caring one bit about the world that was about to collapse, they only thought about their revenge. What would happen if they're at full power? they would destroy everything in a split second just to get back at them. Harmony doesn't necessarily mean peace and love like Xipe, it can also just mean allowing the people to live as they want, as long as that doesn't pose a problem to the world, otherwise they wouldn't be able to live in the first place, and prevent other people to live as well.
I did say that they are similar to Xipe, not that they were actually her.
I don't think the Heavenly Principles nor the Archons were sent there to destroy Khaenri'ah, they were there to contain the problem. I mean, they sent Rukkhadevata to Irminsul to save it so that the world didn't get destroyed, so their focus was on preserving the planet. I think the destruction was a consequence of what the Khaenri'ahns did, and the cubes were there to fix the problem, contain it, prevent it from spreading and destroying the whole microcosm.
As for Pierro, that's tricky. Both Khaenri'ah and Enkanomiya didn't want to bow down to the Gods, because for them, they are not Gods. This means that they have a concept of what a God is, and these "demon gods" look like fakes to them. That's why I think Khaenri'ah (just like Enkanomiya) followed the Primordial One as their only, true god. Why would they know what's written in Before Sun and Moon without having the book? Why would have they tried to steal it so many millennia ago, if they didn't already know what was written inside? so they know about the Primordial One, I believe.
Oh, I don't think Pierro worships the Tsaritsa, by the way. She's probably a means to his end. Can we have a real bad guy in this game? at least one, please! there's Dottore, but that's evil on the crazy side, I think we need an evil evil evil one, too.
As for Dainsleif, I really can't comment, I'm biased. I don't trust him at all, so I can't be objective, not yet at least.
I don't really understand this concept of Murata being destined to die in every universe. I mean, nothing makes us think that Himeko is going to die in Star Rail... As for Murata, although it's not the Ars Goetia name I'm hoping for, one of the demons is literally Phoenix. Plus, Huitzilopochtli is strictly connected to death and rebirth. That's why I think she's constantly dying and coming back to life, but since the Cataclysm, something happened because of Forbidden Knowledge, and she's unable to either come back to life or to fully do so, and the people are trying to use their faith in war, the fights in the endless ring of war, to solve the problem. So maybe this is the similarity with Fontaine? the power of the people's belief? But I don't think they'll go for defying fate again. After Focalors, Arlecchino and Remuria, it would be too much, too repetitive and, as a consequence, boring.
As for the Resurrection from the title, that's something I did say, multiple times in the past, and I think you opposed the idea back then. I guess you changed idea with time.
@@ShadowX5452Gaming bro it was said in hi3 that she’s destined to die in every universe. Why else do you think people are so afraid of himeko dying in star rail it’s because they know the lore of her hi3 every exp character have similar Destiny that was said in star rail I don’t know where but I think it was somewhere in the space station that said a person from one world can have another variant of themselves with similar experiences and similar ending hence the reason himeko dying in every universe Theresa and nahida are counterparts and they are both clones of someone there connected too and ei and mei both are the result of a war when mei became the herrscher of thunder that resulted In the third Honkai war and when ei became the archon that resulted in a civil war in inazumas main story granted it was an immediate, but it still happened
@@ShadowX5452Gaming also pierro is definitely not evil. He’s just morally gray I mean, he’s the person who even suggested to the king that they shouldn’t use the forbidden knowledge anymore so I’m pretty sure he’s not evil There are a lot of evil people in Genshin they’re just not major characters like the fatui or the archons or generally any playable character plus I think it’s much less that you want an evil character but more so a person who lines more to the villain side of the game when in reality character in Genshin it’s really based on perspective on what you see as evil
@@ShadowX5452Gaming also I agree with you if all of the dragons sovereign had their power back, roughly most of them would use it to annihilate humanity I really don’t think that they should regain their power only for them to use it instruction and for killing innocent lives but in the grand spectrum of teyvat it would be right to return the authority back to the dragons because it’s wet, belongs to them without it teyvat wouldn’t operate functionally if the sovereign were to have their authority returned, it would have to be when they can understand humanity as part of this world and acknowledge the change it has gone through not everything last forever and holding on to the past isn’t going to make it any better it’s just going to make you more more miserable and resentful Can’t really base the hatred of humanity and the gods to all of the sovereign since apep does say that some of which actually like humans and the gods so there’s no problem getting back there for the others that presents everything new in this world I think they’re going to need some time to adjust in order to gain full power especially since none of the Arons pose any threat to them mostly because none of the archons hate the sovereigns I’m pretty sure if they could they would give back their authority to the dragons but ye I agree with you I don’t think the dragons should get their authority back at least until they learn to embrace the new wold
@@ShadowX5452Gaming also I forgot to mention it, but I always had this theory that teyvat is just one big dream to the priority, one not like a literal dream I mean like physical dream to them
I was reading about Xian 仙.
I come across a Chinese esoteric, very few Chinese know unless they practice Taoism.
The book title "The Secret of the Golden Flower." known as 太乙金华宗旨 in chinese.
Is about teaching one how to reach their Enlightenment (To be A man without a vessel).
The book is basic tell that initially.
There is nothing in this world, but void but there is residue of energy .
Due residue of energy build up there is an explosion (Big bang).
Light form cosmos form . (Scara line the stars and sky are a "lie")
There are residue of energy known as 真炁 which I believe link to Anemo
The concept is very similar to Kabbalah.
the image (world formula)
Adam Kadmon is known as the Primordial Man
A man without a vessel
it sounds interesting, I guess I'll research it later, but doesn't it sound more like Rene's teachings? though, Rene did build his "faith" on Remuria's texts, so it's not that far away. But I do see the resemblance in Ena's story: the universe is void, she appears and created the universe and the humans inside
@@ShadowX5452Gaming It so complex my brain cannot already. haha.
You know, when i started the Remuria world quest and an npc that i can't remember said the word "dreamscape" i laughed and send a screenshot to some friends saying "imagine if Penacony had something to do with remuria"
But now... Now im thinking that that may have been there on purpose
Yeah, these two updates are really talking about each other, to the point that they didn't even try to hide it, they were literally telling us "this is a hint at what's coming next, by the way"!!!
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I just looked up the dialogue and the npc says: "Welcome, travelers. O traversers of dreamscapes". They really were not subtle with this lol
@@zafkielvondegurechaff3634 yeah! Like I said to another viewer, the hints across games, felt like slaps in the face!!! XD
Fun fact:
Teyvat = Ark
Gopher Wood = the type of wood used to create the ark (Bible - Genesis 6:14)
Since the Dreammaster is Gopher Wood, I wonder what this could mean for Teyvat
The thing is that Teyvat, just like Penacony, was created before the third descender/Gopher Wood arrived.
Unless we want to dare say that the revival of the third descender could actually cause the microcosm to be destroyed, the world released, maybe the Primordial Water will flood everything, he will create a new Ark, and the humans will be brought to the old world with it...
At this point of the story and considering how little we have to work on, we can simply have fun coming up with idea after idea. One of us will guess correctly, right? XD
@@ShadowX5452Gaming We can even go crazy and theorize that the game's timeline is the future of where the sibling is right now. Like in Vera's Melancholy, the future saves the past. And in some way, this is also what happened in Penacony, only it was in a dream.
@@laineysays yeah, I mean, on one side, we would like to know how things are, the truth, but on the other side, as long as we know so little, we can have fun with our theories XD
Feels like the HSR stuff was unnecessary and unwarranted.
So you're suggesting that Primordial One creates Phanes (who is then presumably a Shade) who creates everything else (making him the shade of creation). I mean yeah, that seems fairly straight forward. We're already told there is a creator Shade and seems referenced in the new Wings as the creator of Egeria. More generally it seems to me that the Shades are more likely to have 4 different functions rather than (as has been assumed by many) all 4 being copies of each other. I mean that always seemed obvious to me since Enkanomiya. But most people went off on a riff that had the Primordial One (whom they always called Phanes) had created all 4 shades for nothing more than to "help" beat up the Sovereigns. This always seemed silly to me. Why would you make a shade just for beating up stuff? Presumably they are made after the first war, not before.
As for languages they seem linked to civilizations, which is to say, if you have a civilization you have a language. It's not mentioned much apart from briefly Traveler has to learn the local language so it's not clear if all Teyvat has one language or not. They do have different alphabets for writing purposes, which may be supposed to suggest a different language in each nation which we just skip past for game mechanic purposes. it's hard to see why they'd have different alphabets if they shared the same language. again the unified ancient civilization presumably had one language, and based on the inscriptions we see it's represented by Latin using the one rune set. But then again we have a small amount of Hebrew for the code names of the Hypostases. It may be that the common language traces to the Primordial One and the modern languages are more natural? But this (the development of the 7 new languages) within your scheme would represent a break from the prescribed order.
This is also a pretty obvious conclusion based on no HSR stuff. The approach of the Primordial One, in as much as we can see any, is most likely one of order and authority. The strict notion of an inescapable fate and the theme of a machine losing it's "functions" to describe the Primordial One, for example. In terms of philosophy and Dainslief's 3 answers this corresponds to the answers that credit the authorities with solving all the problems, rather than Traveler themselves (or some powerful individual) or a group effort. As for the thing about a ban on entymology by the academia ... I mean sure... that fits OK.
When you say the 2nd throne is a creation of the Primordial One (to fit with HSR) that seems wrong because the PO only creates Teyvat, we have an exterior world and we're told the 2nd "who came" is from outside, and similarly that all the Descenders are aliens. Your comparison breaks down and there's no point in trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. Nahida says the "Heavenly Principles" are running things and it's obviously the Unknown God since that's how she calls herself, and that's linked to the Primordial One and it's philosophical idea of order, so I just don't see why you'd want to go back a year or two to when people thought the Unknown God was the 2nd who came.
Also the Enkanomiyans don't stay on the side of the Primordial One. The official religion shifts to Sun children and the unofficial heresy is Aberaku's worship of Istaroth.
Guess whether Primordial One or the current Celestia are "good" or "bad" is another matter. it just seems like the game keeps things a bit grey there.
(skipped Gnostic stuff like I skipped the HSR stuff)
Why would the 2nd Aeon from a syzygy coma and beat up the first Aeon, essentially their Twin? i think you have more work on that theory and Gnosticism isn't going to help you.
The unified ancient civilization is not a "prison" so another wing and a miss for HSR. Why do you even bother? Just work from Genshin lore.
Then you say the 2nd who came was an "inmate" trying to slavishly follow HSR while contradicting what you said when you were slavishly following Gnosticism. How can the 2nd who came simultaneously be an Aeon twin with the PO and also a creation of the PO? Now you then kind of fall over yourself trying to say this dude wasn't from outer space but also he was from outer space.
9:55 wouldn't it be clearer to say they are from outer space because they came with the Primordial One? Descender status merely requires outer space so why not simply acknowledge that anyone Primordial One brought with them when they came, could qualify as a Descender too -- if they had the will. And if we drop the dumbass idea that all shades hopped on down to the planet to beat up dragons, but instead had differentiated jobs, there's plenty of reason to suppose a bunch of people who came with the Primordial One, never bothered to ever set foot on Teyvat.
But it's not clear you are saying simply that the 2nd who came was a lieutenant who betrayed and overthrew the Primordial One. Plus Phanes (if they are the creator Shade) would be a bad choice since they really did definitely set foot on Teyvat.
The whole thing with the "envoy age" being AFTER the war with the 2nd never made sense. Why wouldn't the Seelies have been doing that job all along if it was felt necessary? besides which they get cursed during or just soon after that war so they wouldn't have any time to be envoys. or you end up having to have two huge planet destroying wars that nobody ever seems to acknowledge. Don't you think they'd notice? Let's double up everything! Why not triple it?
More Decenders who never descend from anywhere.... throw in a god who isn't a god.... skipping forward....
silly predictions.... skip, skip, not interested in natlan even from reliable sources let alone HSR so skip, skip, skip Teyvat=dream silly. Can you imagine how bad an ending THAT would make?
Honestly it's bewildering why you'd jump up and down and declare a single planet from HSR represents the entire history a the bigger game.
You know what, I changed my mind. I deleted my previous comment. I replied to half of what you said but then I read "why do you even bother? Just work from Genshin lore" and I stopped replying because I will not entertain someone as rude as you. You cannot come here and disrespect my efforts and my work just because you believe yourself to be the only one who knows how the whole lore works. You even believe to know more than the actual writers!!!
No one can tell anyone what to do, and you're not different, no matter how tall your pedestal is.
So, to borrow your words, why should I bother replying to you? You don't deserve it.
If you want a conversation, then come back when and if you'll ever learn some respect. It's time I stop wasting my time with disrespectful people.
I will keep on "bothering" with Star Rail content and with Honkai Impact content in connection to Genshin Impact whether you like it or not, whether you "approve" or not
Gods, this comment was so disrespectful and condescending....
Using they/them for aeons isn't any more complicated than using she or he.
Well, it's not for you to decide what is or isn't complicated for me, but I'm always extremely glad to see that, of a 30min video, what people really cared was the use of the pronouns. That was, clearly, the main topic of the whole video
My theory is that everyone in Teyvat is living in Ena’s dream 😂….its a perfect and peaceful world where everyone gets along, no playable character figh one another, no open war, slavery, alien bug swarms or even threat of passing Lovecraftian gods like IX looking to devour worlds…
That's what I believe, only they were aware in the beginning and now they don't remember that it's a dreamscape.
It's funny you say that the playable characters don't fight against each other, because as soon as I read it, I remembered both Cyno and Sethos, and Alhaitham and Cyno. I guess it's also Cyno.... Well, there's also Cyno and Scaramouche actually....
@ShadowX5452Gaming aeon of permanent created the dragons and Leviathan are dragons maybe before philosophy it's was instincts not philosophy of instincts theirs a different
instincts vs philosophy? Animals become Leviathans creation of their God maybe not aeon but the __ of ferocity same ideal as aeon of ferocity
@@skistorm739 I'm sorry, I didn't really understand what you meant to say.
I think you're talking about Long the Permanence, but as far as I know, he was one of the Leviathans, the last one, who also became an Aeon. As for the philosophy and instincts, I didn't understand that.
And what about Oroboros the Voracity?
@@ShadowX5452Gaming not good at sentences, instincts before philosophy = before aeons I Mean
there is a mistake, phanes is the primordial one, it is literally his title, this is how he is described, this is how his first mention appears in before the sun and the moon
*but who would be the demiurge? *
this is also easy to guess, the abyss itself, if one sees everything related to it and it fits perfectly with the description of the demiurge, someone who wishes to take the divine spark away from humans, and how he does it, turning them all into identically equal beings and corrupting their minds and spirits, in other words into hilichurs.
*but who would be the second to come?*
well if we see it in the eye of the humans it would be the dragon king himself, nibelung who to the perspective of the writing series the second to come given his perspective.
from there the theory does not work so well, even more so that in certain records left by Rene in the area where khaenria was, he tells us that the abyss has a "will", something that moves all those who use their energies or knowledge.
but the "will of light" is not phanes, the primordial one, since it is not an Eon or a will, it is a being closer to the gods but below these wills.
in fact we know more or less what phanes looks like, because of the unknown goddess herself, a kaslana, or rather a kiana, more similar to the Araya of GGZ, with wings and a crown.
Well, no, it's not a mistake. There are two schools of thought about it.
One, yours, relies on "the Primordial One may have been Phanes", so you believe that he is Phanes, even though it doesn't really explain why the people were confused, nor how the Primordial One was fighting against the Dragon Sovereign and only then, Phanes is said to have been born from an egg and created a world inside of it. It would require the Primordial One being in two places at ones, doing two different things at the same time.
The other, mine, believes that Phanes is one of the four shades. As such, the people are confused, because he may look similar, or because they never really saw the Primordial One (since he was outside the microcosm) and only saw Phanes, who created the world.
In this case, the Primordial One is fighting the dragons, while Phanes created the world. Two beings in two places doing two different things.
Plus, if a being is born from an egg, it has to hatch it to come out, yet Phanes created a microcosm inside of the egg, so he never broke it, hence he has to be still inside...
As for the abyss, I really don't see how it sounds easy, since we really don't know what the abyss is in the first place. Plus, people turning into hilichurl is more something that happens when they are deprived of their memories, rather than the effect of the abyss, which is akin to radiation exposure. There are multiple cases in which it has been hinted at the fact that losing memories, turns people into monsters, and the curse of Khaenri'ah is actively eroding the cursed's memories, as Dainsleif told us.
As for the second who came, it doesn't really make sense for it to be the dragon king, since he was already on the old world before the Primordial One arrived. The people of Enkanomiya knew the story as it unfolded, so someone who was there prior to their arrival, can't be the second "who came". Plus, we know that Niebelung died in the fight against the second who came and came back to life when Deshret was alive, Apep told us.
Yes, the abyss has a will, and that is because I think it's Phanes. He created the world, and the world is very much "alive", but he also defied the Primordial One's orders, he wasn't supposed to create a microcosm in the first place, so he was punished. What better example than someone who doesn't think of himself as a God, and it's literally chained in the abyss?
We actually know what Phanes looks like from Before Sun and Moon, he's androgynous with wings and a crown. You talk about the unknown goddess, but she's definitely not androgynous. Still, I do believe she's one of the shades but, like Istaroth as well, they were created as female beings, while Phanes is probably the most similar in terms of appearance to the Primordial One, maybe because he was given the biggest amount of powers, considering he created a whole universe.
To be clear, I think the shades are emanations of the Primordial One, something like the segments Dottore created, only on a much higher level, so they're copies of the Primordial One with specific powers. Who knows, maybe the technology Dottore uses is an adaptation of the shades. It is something the Khaenri'ahn created, and they lived in the ruins of the Unified Nation, so maybe they found some ancient texts ad recreated it
Feel alseep or died i still think lumine is gonna die if she isnt dead yet
The reason why I don't believe either Lumine or Aether are going to die, is because I think the anime they showed us that they're making, is going to be set on Teyvat (or the Old World) after the story in the game has ended, so when the world will be released on the Old World as the Primordial One intended from the beginning, until Phanes did his own thing and created a microcosm.
Of course, that's my interpretation, but the place we were shown was substantially different from the Teyvat we're seeing right now, it looked like an actual planet
Using they is not confusing, they is a singular pronoun. or you could've just repeated the name instead of breaking canon references to the character.
Okay, "they" is not a singular pronoun. It is used as if it were a singular pronoun when you don't want to define someone's gender, but you don't say "they is", so it's still a plural pronoun, regardless of the meaning it takes on.
Still, to me, a non English native speaker, it is confusing, especially when we talk about singular being and then about them together. It all becomes a continuous "they", and it gets hard to understand who's the subject of the sentence.
I'll make an example: "Ena sounds like Xipe. They are all about rules and happiness". Who is the subject of they? It can be "Ena and Xipe" or just "Ena". In this case, I meant Ena, not both of them.
Repeating the name, on the other hand, is extremely bad, it's too repetitive and it gets hideous fast.
So, I'd rather break canon references, instead of making things confusing or go for poor grammar.
@@ShadowX5452Gamingthey IS used as singular pronoun and a plural pronoun. You can just say Ena is all about happiness and laws like Xipe (and I don’t get your point about how repetitive it can get when it’s not as both names and they pronouns can be used to not become too repetitive). Heck you can even say the same about the pronouns she for your example. Since she can refer to both Xipe and Ena (especially for a non native speaker) and can get repetitive. And the sentence still makes sense for others if it’s they instead and gets your point across. It’s not even poor grammar.
@@numerals8939 maybe I wasn't clear. I'm aware that "they" can be used as a singular pronoun, but being use as one doesn't mean that is it a singular pronoun. I used to teach English grammar, so although it may sound preposterous, I know it, I studied it way more than other students because I needed to find ways to explain it and make it easier to understand and remember.
If you watch the video again, you'll realize that I use the pronoun very often in consecutive sentences, so repeating Ena over and over again would have been redundant, reason why pronouns exist in the first place.
I don't remember the script by heart, so I'll probably say something wrong, but you can understand what I mean with this made up example:
"Ena reshaped the world in the first day, Ena created a grand Lyre on the second day, Ena created language on the third day, Ena created.....". Too many Ena in consecutive sentences. That's poor grammar.
Now, you will say that this can be easily avoided with "they" and you would be right, but as the example I made for the other viewer, since I compared two beings, if I named them both but then talked about just one, "they" wouldn't specify if I'm talking about Ena or both of them.
"Ena sounds like Xipe. They wanted a world without chaos and stife". This sentence can be applied to both of them, because they both hated discord, but if I said "she wanted a world without chaos and strife", you will understand that I'm talking about Ena, since she is the subject of the main sentence.
You could even tell me that I could have said "the former wanted a world without chaos and strife", but using "former" and "latter" will inevitably turn a RUclips video that is meant to explain things in an easy way, into a school lecture.
I understand wanting to defend the right to use "they" as a singular pronoun to avoid defining a gender, but we're really creating an issue that doesn't exist here, not in this specific case. My videos are meant to make things easy to understand, and defining Ena and Xipe as "she", or Nous as "it" because it's a computer, or even Pom-Pom as it, although it deviates from the intended pronouns, doesn't really offend anyone. I'm not trampling on anyone's rights, nor am I not trying to impose some kind or obsolete ideals for whatever and useless reason. I'm talking about Aeons that don't exist in reality, so maybe try to be a little bit more light-hearted and defend the right to use "they" when it is actually denied to real people, so something that really hurts someone that shouldn't be hurt.
Again, I'm just trying to explain something complicated in the easiest way possible, so I have to adapt things, tell them in different ways to try and be sure that the viewers understand exactly what I'm trying to say. Nothing more. I hope this clears my reasons a little
@@ShadowX5452Gaming You do know you can simply say, Aeons don’t have gender. The game says they. That’s it. No need for long explanations and clarifications under the comments.
And I don’t understand what you even mean by “so something that really hurts someone that shouldn’t be hurt”.
I’m simply telling you my opinion, it’s really not that deep. So take it easy
@@numerals8939 I mean, I took my time to explain why I chose to give them a gender, but it seems that there was no need for a long explanation, which means that you just want to be right and couldn't care less about my reasons, so I see no point in replying any further.
I don't see the point in trying to have a discussion with someone who wants to monologue....
i'm sorry but using "she" for the eons feels so wrong. i don't understand how keeping "they" was an issue
It's fiction, chill.
Because it's "She"pe
@@Romashka_SovXipe might actually be they plural because THEY are a triple deity and absorbed ena and are probably also made up of Idrila and tazyronth. Also ena is likely the eye and not the puppet
Such a dense topic here, you 'find' a lot of similarities with HSR for sure. Is it really references or just a similar writing style I wonder.
It's true that I'm starting to find that weird that there no one from Natlan outside of Natlan. Like are they just really conservatives or is it that they cannot leave Natlan.
I mean, it really felt like they were slapping me with those references when I played Star Rail XD
As for Natlan, if it's the initial site of the Genesis of Teyvat, maybe they really can't leave the place at all? Although, there's still Bennet who is outside Natlan and is alive... Unlucky as hell, but somehow still alive. There's also the original tribe that left Natlan, the one that, after generations, birthed Vanessa.
Maybe they can leave, but they don't because they have a life mission that needs to be accomplished. They're supposed to be warriors, so maybe they're extremely loyal to the cause. Who knows, maybe they'll start leaving Natlan once we fix whatever we're going to be sucked into as soon as we step foot in the nation, as usual!
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I generally try to don't look too much for references between the 2. Aside that radio broadcast talking about a micro galaxy potentially inhabited, that one was hard to ignore.
To be honest there is nothing explaining why we haven't met anyone from there xD
A curse strike the native who leaves? Could be but what for? Other Archons don't care whatsoever who comes or leaves the nation.
And we didn't heard about pyro Visions not being granted so the Pyro Archon is not dead or in a weird mindset like Ei was...
Not that I think about it it's weirder and weirder xD
@@hirods9889 I heard of that broadcast, but I actually don't remember it inside the game. But then again, I'm also the one who didn't know about the free 5star at 300 warps, so....
Yeah, it gets weirder and weirder the more we think about it. A curse would be, I think, too redundant at this point, we've seen too many up until now. That's why I think it's something the people want or need to do, rather than them being physically unable to leave, and it became so much of a need, that has been imposed on them, like mentally imposed. "If you leave, it's going to be your fault that this catastrophe happens", so they don't. It's the only explanation I can find that allows people from ages ago to leave the nation without repercussions, but now they don't anymore, probably since the cataclysm....
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I think the broadcast happened after the xianzhou storyline, but you can still try to listen to the radio inside the Express, maybe you can still get it, not sure though
@@hirods9889 I'll try and see. Maybe tomorrow, it's almost 3am... Again... XD
Games aren’t connected like that
The games are in the same universe
@@Pre4xes_ technically it’s multiverse and that doesn’t matter
@@hiimbobbyo631 it’s actually one single universe but yeah it doesn’t matter
They won’t do any collabs
@@Pre4xes_ that literally makes no sense actually. The imaginary tree has bubble “universes” as in plural not just one. That’s what makes it a multiverse.